1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:04,910 Speaker 1: This is Browny's Podcast. 2 00:00:05,210 --> 00:00:09,930 Deano: Welcome to Browny's Podcast. Oh my God. What the hell's happened with the 3 00:00:09,930 --> 00:00:13,840 Deano: D's train? We thought there was some trouble, shit's hit the fan. 4 00:00:14,380 --> 00:00:16,170 Deano: Shit is in a T- shirt cannon, Jonathan. 5 00:00:16,690 --> 00:00:19,700 Jonathan Brown: Yes, absolutely. Well, and they play my boys next up. So they'll 6 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:21,119 Jonathan Brown: be zipping for the last four weeks. 7 00:00:21,530 --> 00:00:24,760 Deano: This is crazy. Almost a month without a win and 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,550 Deano: a fight at a restaurant. We can't forget that, this 9 00:00:27,550 --> 00:00:28,111 Deano: is wild shit. 10 00:00:28,111 --> 00:00:29,750 Jonathan Brown: That's what happens when the coach drinks with the players. 11 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:34,460 Deano: Dog, you're back in the studio. 12 00:00:34,460 --> 00:00:36,240 Campbell Brown: I am back in the studio, mate. It's good to 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,990 Campbell Brown: be back and see your beautiful faces. 14 00:00:38,020 --> 00:00:38,030 Jonathan Brown: Oh, it's good to see you. 15 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:43,510 Campbell Brown: You've even got the happiest, friendliest man in AFL Footy staring 16 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:45,949 Campbell Brown: down the opposition, bench and abusing Maxie. 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,210 Jonathan Brown: No, no, he's not happy. He didn't look happy. Someone has 18 00:00:49,210 --> 00:00:51,150 Jonathan Brown: got under his skin, whether it was Jack Ginnivan or 19 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:53,519 Jonathan Brown: some of the Collingwood players. They must have been sledging 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,490 Jonathan Brown: Maxie because he could not run around. He was absolutely 21 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:58,002 Jonathan Brown: cooked, Maxie (inaudible) . 22 00:00:58,150 --> 00:01:00,670 Campbell Brown: Everyone is walking on egg shells at the Melbourne Footy Club. 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,220 Deano: Don't ( beep) Maxi, because it'll come back to bite a 24 00:01:02,220 --> 00:01:03,520 Deano: year later in the season I reckon. 25 00:01:03,580 --> 00:01:09,780 Jonathan Brown: Or snail shells. Like snails, good French food there. Come on. 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,480 Deano: Jonathan, while I'll pay that. I'm furious that I have to 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Deano: pay it. 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,171 Jonathan Brown: Time to hit the music. 29 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:17,550 Deano: Where is pointsman? Okay, here we go. Here he goes. 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,059 Campbell Brown: Oh my God. He's got boxing glove. 31 00:01:27,980 --> 00:01:31,830 Jonathan Brown: Brody Palmer, the Muay Thai kickboxer. Remember he did Muay 32 00:01:32,270 --> 00:01:37,290 Jonathan Brown: Thai for two years, Brown Dog. He's just walked in with a shirt and the boxing 33 00:01:37,290 --> 00:01:40,700 Jonathan Brown: gloves on. He's got the headband. He's ready for his big 34 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:44,369 Jonathan Brown: battle against Campbell Brown on the footballers extravaganza. 35 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:46,470 Deano: He shirtless. Shirtless. 36 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:47,461 Jonathan Brown: Oh, here we go. 37 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:51,820 Campbell Brown: Hey, he watches the ride as it swings around. 38 00:01:53,140 --> 00:01:53,141 Jonathan Brown: That's right. 39 00:01:53,141 --> 00:01:55,580 Campbell Brown: It's the left that does the damage, son. Brody, what's around your head? 40 00:01:56,050 --> 00:01:57,531 Brody Palmer: It's a traditional Muay Thai headband. 41 00:01:57,531 --> 00:02:03,900 Jonathan Brown: Hey, Brods, is this a real thing? Because you did do Muay 42 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:05,761 Jonathan Brown: Thai for two years, you're imposing men- 43 00:02:05,761 --> 00:02:10,351 Campbell Brown: How do you say it? Is it Muay Thai? What is it? Muay Thai. 44 00:02:10,351 --> 00:02:10,760 Jonathan Brown: It's mithai. It's mithai. 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,790 Campbell Brown: That's that's a drink, you dickhead. 46 00:02:14,770 --> 00:02:17,530 Jonathan Brown: Now Muay Thai, now you have really marked. You put 47 00:02:17,530 --> 00:02:20,860 Jonathan Brown: a line in the sand there to our man. So is this a real 48 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:23,330 Jonathan Brown: thing because I think he's going to be a bit intimidated, Brods, 49 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:24,610 Jonathan Brown: to take you on. 50 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:27,500 Brody Palmer: Are you a little bit intimidated that I'm shirtless with the headband and 51 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,370 Brody Palmer: boxing gloves at 11 o'clock in the morning? 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,850 Campbell Brown: It's a different kit, it's interesting, it has taken me 53 00:02:31,850 --> 00:02:35,820 Campbell Brown: by surprise. From a physique point of view, I'm not 54 00:02:35,820 --> 00:02:40,500 Campbell Brown: intimidated. From your stance point of view and the way that I already 55 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,330 Campbell Brown: landed one in your guts from my first shot, I'm 56 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:47,530 Campbell Brown: not intimidated. The headband, yeah I can see that, that's nice. 57 00:02:47,530 --> 00:02:48,940 Jonathan Brown: Not your finest moment, the headband, I must admit. 58 00:02:50,210 --> 00:02:54,929 Campbell Brown: What you guys don't remember about my childhood was I 59 00:02:54,930 --> 00:02:57,310 Campbell Brown: grew up on the very, very rough streets of Peppermint 60 00:02:57,310 --> 00:03:01,600 Campbell Brown: Grove in Perth. I didn't know where my next meal was coming from. I had 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,500 Campbell Brown: to fight people in the schoolyard at Scotch College. 62 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:05,501 Brody Palmer: Yeah. 63 00:03:05,501 --> 00:03:07,280 Campbell Brown: They were trying to steal my tuck shop money. 64 00:03:07,310 --> 00:03:09,209 Deano: All I know is this is a second week in a row that I've 65 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:13,740 Deano: got a co- host's nipples just harassing my face. Look at 66 00:03:13,820 --> 00:03:14,809 Deano: those things, man. 67 00:03:14,810 --> 00:03:15,991 Jonathan Brown: The naked of this has really gone up, hasn't it. 68 00:03:15,991 --> 00:03:18,580 Deano: You can cut glass with those nipples. 69 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:21,400 Jonathan Brown: So what was your move in your Muay Thai days, Brods? 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,810 Brody Palmer: I was a big front kick man. 71 00:03:24,010 --> 00:03:24,940 Jonathan Brown: Front kick man. 72 00:03:25,090 --> 00:03:26,450 Brody Palmer: I couldn't use my hands at all, but I was a big 73 00:03:26,450 --> 00:03:26,990 Brody Palmer: front kick. 74 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:30,960 Campbell Brown: Could you break a brick with the chopping action. 75 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Jonathan Brown: No, that's karate. You're not chopping in Muay Thai. Were you 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Jonathan Brown: more of a puncher or a kicker? 77 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Brody Palmer: Definitely a kicker. Definitely a kicker. 78 00:03:38,830 --> 00:03:41,580 Deano: Brods, what noise do you make after doing a jab? 79 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:46,700 Deano: Because a lot of people are vocal like a tennis player. Yeah. Whoa, whoa. Wow. Whoa. 80 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:54,670 Brody Palmer: Do you know what I say? Ryuken, Hadouken. I'm a street 81 00:03:54,670 --> 00:03:54,920 Brody Palmer: fighter, brother. 82 00:03:54,940 --> 00:03:56,361 Campbell Brown: Oh, you've lost it, mate. 83 00:03:56,361 --> 00:03:59,280 Deano: I can't wait for these guys. 84 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:02,151 Jonathan Brown: How good was that? Our Street Fighter game. 85 00:04:02,151 --> 00:04:02,171 Campbell Brown: Yeah. 86 00:04:02,850 --> 00:04:04,541 Jonathan Brown: I remember all the local fish and chips joints, you used to always have Street Fighter. 87 00:04:04,541 --> 00:04:04,542 Brody Palmer: Oh yeah. 88 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:08,430 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. The arcade game in the fish and chip joint. 89 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:10,570 Brody Palmer: M. Bison, I had one move and no one could ( 90 00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:12,350 Brody Palmer: beep) with M. Bison. 91 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:15,131 Jonathan Brown: I liked the big Russian, the big Soviet. 92 00:04:15,131 --> 00:04:15,380 Campbell Brown: Oh, Zangief man. 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,200 Jonathan Brown: Zangief. 94 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:17,270 Campbell Brown: Zangief. 95 00:04:17,270 --> 00:04:21,720 Jonathan Brown: He was a weapon and a half bro. Brods, we're going to have to get you a 96 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,490 Jonathan Brown: personal trainer. We're going to have to sharpen you up a little bit 97 00:04:23,890 --> 00:04:25,599 Jonathan Brown: in the next month or so. Now, you need to 98 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,330 Jonathan Brown: understand Brown Dog is trained off since he's men for all season's 99 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:32,529 Jonathan Brown: calendar. But you are in the premial career. You're only 30 100 00:04:32,529 --> 00:04:34,680 Jonathan Brown: years old, you're about to be married, we need to tighten 101 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:34,851 Jonathan Brown: you up this fight. 102 00:04:34,851 --> 00:04:37,700 Brody Palmer: Oh yeah. Do you have anyone that could possibly train me because I'm a bit... 103 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:39,810 Campbell Brown: 18 Ounce Clubs as well we're wearing. 104 00:04:39,870 --> 00:04:42,029 Deano: Do you know Barry Pang down at Barry Pang's Boxing Gym? 105 00:04:42,029 --> 00:04:43,240 Jonathan Brown: Oh yeah. Is that Sam's old man? 106 00:04:43,660 --> 00:04:44,190 Deano: I believe so. 107 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,330 Campbell Brown: We need you to get trained. But is this happening or 108 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:49,181 Campbell Brown: not? Are we just (beep) around? 109 00:04:49,181 --> 00:04:49,671 Brody Palmer: No, it's going to happen. 110 00:04:50,410 --> 00:04:54,070 Campbell Brown: Well, everything we talk about on this program never happens. 111 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:54,111 Deano: Yeah. Well, most of it. 112 00:04:54,111 --> 00:04:58,090 Campbell Brown: I'm still waiting to see that Marvel Stadium and watch Top Gun. 113 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,620 Brody Palmer: I know. I know. 114 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Campbell Brown: We haven't got the fights with Jars. 115 00:04:58,881 --> 00:05:02,860 Jonathan Brown: The problem is Gill is now stepping down. We're putting 116 00:05:03,810 --> 00:05:04,599 Jonathan Brown: the request through Gill. 117 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:04,741 Deano: He doesn't care anymore. 118 00:05:04,741 --> 00:05:07,070 Campbell Brown: I didn't rock up to our own party. 119 00:05:07,089 --> 00:05:10,520 Deano: Which was a success though. The party was a success. 120 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:11,750 Deano: All right. 121 00:05:12,339 --> 00:05:12,491 Campbell Brown: And there was a racehorse. 122 00:05:12,491 --> 00:05:19,540 Jonathan Brown: Oh yes. Well, can you give us your shit racehorse Laws 123 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:19,640 Jonathan Brown: of Indices. 124 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,839 Campbell Brown: You know what you can have? You can have social element. 125 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Jonathan Brown: Ah, yeah. Because Ben been retired. 126 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,310 Campbell Brown: Done attendance for 12 months. I need someone to help me pay 127 00:05:28,310 --> 00:05:28,779 Campbell Brown: the bills. Magnificent. 128 00:05:28,779 --> 00:05:30,880 Jonathan Brown: It was straight back up in Queensland. 129 00:05:31,010 --> 00:05:33,660 Campbell Brown: Good fun. Yeah. Had a nice week in Noosa with the 130 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:36,729 Campbell Brown: family, obviously had to leave them to head to Brisbane to 131 00:05:36,730 --> 00:05:41,390 Campbell Brown: do some work and went to the Strati. And yeah, 132 00:05:41,390 --> 00:05:44,680 Campbell Brown: look, the horse Laws of Indices ran midfield, bit disappointed, 133 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,190 Campbell Brown: but we had a nice day. 134 00:05:45,190 --> 00:05:47,469 Brody Palmer: Are you just getting flown places by people? You get 135 00:05:47,470 --> 00:05:48,839 Brody Palmer: paid to go places and get drunk. 136 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,159 Campbell Brown: Yeah. Junkets, I call it. 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,681 Brody Palmer: Yeah. Junkets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 138 00:05:50,681 --> 00:05:53,430 Campbell Brown: But it is theoretically to the letter of the Lord's works. 139 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,390 Brody Palmer: Yeah, I know it is. 140 00:05:54,390 --> 00:05:58,210 Jonathan Brown: So were you working Friday night were you? Out in the town? 141 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,929 Campbell Brown: I was out with clients, and then Saturday I was 142 00:06:01,930 --> 00:06:02,979 Campbell Brown: working for SCN Track. 143 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:05,900 Jonathan Brown: Does that include dancing on the dance floor at the 144 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:05,969 Jonathan Brown: end of the day? 145 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:08,789 Campbell Brown: All my behavior is inclusive. 146 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:11,919 Deano: How many people did you beg to say WTB into your ( 147 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Deano: beep) phone? 148 00:06:13,220 --> 00:06:15,659 Campbell Brown: I did it, but I did have some just random 149 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:17,051 Campbell Brown: punters come up and. 150 00:06:17,051 --> 00:06:18,450 Deano: And say it unsolicited? 151 00:06:18,630 --> 00:06:19,190 Campbell Brown: Unsolicited. 152 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,930 Deano: That's bullshit. 153 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,700 Campbell Brown: I promise. 154 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:21,299 Brody Palmer: Jonathan, that's so true. 155 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:22,090 Campbell Brown: I'll send it to the WhatsApp group. 156 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:23,860 Jonathan Brown: I think it's a way that's going to take off. 157 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:25,229 Deano: Are you going to say it? 158 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:26,861 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. WTB baby. No, is that what it is? 159 00:06:26,861 --> 00:06:26,861 Campbell Brown: That's right. 160 00:06:26,861 --> 00:06:27,301 Jonathan Brown: We the best baby. 161 00:06:31,339 --> 00:06:34,929 Campbell Brown: I reckon we get it on Fox Footy at some stage. 162 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:38,840 Deano: Hey Dog, Socceroos won. We could be going to Qatar, man. 163 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,280 Campbell Brown: Unbelievable. Let's go, Dog. They did it the hard way. 164 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:46,680 Jonathan Brown: Well, penalty shootout. I think they played for the penalty shootout. 165 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,020 Jonathan Brown: Didn't they? 166 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:51,240 Campbell Brown: They subbed out Ryan late in the game and brought Redmayne on 167 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,609 Campbell Brown: because he's a better penalty shootout keeper, which is outstanding 168 00:06:56,050 --> 00:06:59,870 Campbell Brown: leadership from Ryan to put his hand up. And also 169 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,359 Campbell Brown: Graham Arnold, the coach. They'd thought about it, they'd spoken 170 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Campbell Brown: about it. 20 World Cup qualifying games, 16 overseas and 171 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,930 Campbell Brown: the last couple do or die. Tough road to Qatar 172 00:07:12,930 --> 00:07:14,560 Campbell Brown: and they got the job done. It was brilliant. 173 00:07:14,610 --> 00:07:18,440 Jonathan Brown: Did they play for the penalty shootout? Because it seems like they're good at that. 174 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,710 Jonathan Brown: And obviously, clearly they're brought in the specialist keeper specifically 175 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:23,780 Jonathan Brown: for the penalty shootout. 176 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Deano: Oh no, because he came in so late, JB, yes and no. 177 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,410 Deano: They were trying to score an overtime, but Peru looked 178 00:07:29,410 --> 00:07:30,160 Deano: better in overtime. 179 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:30,351 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. 180 00:07:30,351 --> 00:07:32,010 Campbell Brown: But they knew if it did go to penalties, a 181 00:07:32,010 --> 00:07:34,940 Campbell Brown: bit of chance was with Redmayne. 182 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,620 Jonathan Brown: And we missed the first goal as well on the penalty shootout. 183 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:38,220 Deano: Yeah. Yeah. We were watching- 184 00:07:38,350 --> 00:07:39,860 Jonathan Brown: It's a brutal conclusion, isn't it? 185 00:07:40,220 --> 00:07:40,680 Deano: It's awful. 186 00:07:40,970 --> 00:07:44,080 Jonathan Brown: You just know you're looking at these players thinking whichever 187 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,770 Jonathan Brown: one of you guys misses, it could ruin your life. 188 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:51,100 Campbell Brown: Not only ruin their life, cost their life. Do you remember 189 00:07:51,330 --> 00:07:53,930 Campbell Brown: Baggio, the Colombian? 190 00:07:54,450 --> 00:07:55,380 Deano: I do. 191 00:07:55,380 --> 00:07:55,730 Campbell Brown: He got knocked off. 192 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:56,271 Jonathan Brown: No, no, Escobar. 193 00:07:56,271 --> 00:07:56,720 Campbell Brown: It was Escobar, not Baggio. 194 00:07:57,620 --> 00:08:03,350 Jonathan Brown: That's right, Baggio played for Italy. But Escobar, absolutely. Roberto Baggio of 195 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:07,040 Jonathan Brown: course famously missed in '94 Wheel Cup final against Brazil. 196 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:08,020 Campbell Brown: And it cost them, did it? 197 00:08:08,020 --> 00:08:08,960 Jonathan Brown: And it cost them. They lost the final. 198 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,700 Campbell Brown: It's a bit like Dom Sheed, right? He goes back 199 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:14,740 Campbell Brown: and kicks it. He's a legend for all time. In 200 00:08:14,740 --> 00:08:16,670 Campbell Brown: Perth, he never has to buy another drink. If you're on 201 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,130 Campbell Brown: the other end of it, on the world stage like 202 00:08:20,130 --> 00:08:23,220 Campbell Brown: Escobar or Baggio, you could go from being the most 203 00:08:23,220 --> 00:08:28,560 Campbell Brown: popular celebrated soccer player to the most hated just on 204 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Campbell Brown: the back of that. 205 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,189 Deano: Yeah. With penalties, you put it well, Jonathan. The 10 206 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:34,689 Deano: men taking a penalty, the one thing that is absolutely 207 00:08:34,950 --> 00:08:36,990 Deano: going to be true is one of those men is 208 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:38,941 Deano: going to feel like absolute dog shit for the rest of their lives. 209 00:08:38,941 --> 00:08:38,942 Campbell Brown: Correct. 210 00:08:38,942 --> 00:08:38,943 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. 211 00:08:38,943 --> 00:08:39,090 Campbell Brown: That's the certainty. 212 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:39,939 Deano: The rest of their lives. 213 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:42,270 Campbell Brown: Yep. 214 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:43,270 Deano: That's wild. 215 00:08:43,270 --> 00:08:46,380 Jonathan Brown: It's brutal. So it's going to be a big World Cup final now, 216 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:48,300 Jonathan Brown: a Big World Cup. Now I'd love to be able 217 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:48,371 Jonathan Brown: to go over there. 218 00:08:48,371 --> 00:08:48,401 Campbell Brown: Let's go. 219 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,200 Jonathan Brown: Well, is it a World Cup final? Because we can't 220 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,869 Jonathan Brown: get over there until the start of December. 221 00:08:54,030 --> 00:08:54,410 Campbell Brown: I can. 222 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,500 Jonathan Brown: Brown Dog can. But the group games will be over 223 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:59,840 Jonathan Brown: by that stage, Dog. I don't think Australia is going to 224 00:09:00,090 --> 00:09:00,740 Jonathan Brown: the knockout stage, all right? 225 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,410 Deano: All right. Well dog, I'll- 226 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:03,970 Campbell Brown: Do you know what I'm doing for the whole of December? 227 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:04,710 Deano: Getting drunk? 228 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:05,170 Campbell Brown: Nothing. 229 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:05,199 Deano: Uh- huh. 230 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,150 Campbell Brown: So I could go anytime. 231 00:09:07,150 --> 00:09:09,350 Deano: Brody, we're going to get there, man. We're going to go to 232 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:10,830 Deano: Qatar. Pointsman will get us there. 233 00:09:11,429 --> 00:09:13,559 Brody Palmer: They absolutely won't. But I thought that we should call 234 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,221 Brody Palmer: the boss and just find out whether they- 235 00:09:16,221 --> 00:09:16,241 Deano: Dell? 236 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:17,380 Brody Palmer: Dell. 237 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:17,970 Deano: Let's go. 238 00:09:18,820 --> 00:09:21,410 Jonathan Brown: I'm going to go over there and play guitar in Qatar. 239 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,130 Deano: That's such a (beep) good idea. 240 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:29,910 Jonathan Brown: I'll be on video that Brown Dog busking climbing guitar in 241 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:31,221 Jonathan Brown: the Town Square at Qatar. 242 00:09:31,221 --> 00:09:33,420 Deano: "Why are you doing that, Dog?" "Because it rhymes." " Oh cool, man. Cool, cool." 243 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:40,410 Campbell Brown: I'm going to go over and drive a car in Qatar. 244 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:45,761 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, my own boss is not even pick up the phone. 245 00:09:45,761 --> 00:09:51,550 Campbell Brown: I'm going to go over to the bar and drink in Qatar. 246 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,380 Deano: Hey Dell. We want to go to Qatar, make it happen, baby. 247 00:09:55,730 --> 00:09:59,240 Campbell Brown: I want to play guitar in Qatar. 248 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:04,100 Jonathan Brown: There you go, Dell, let's have your contribution. You must be 249 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:05,401 Jonathan Brown: real happy how the podcast is going. 250 00:10:05,401 --> 00:10:08,199 Deano: Ball is in your court, Dell. 251 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,690 Jonathan Brown: Now, four tickets for the World Cup final. 252 00:10:10,270 --> 00:10:10,701 Deano: Business class. 253 00:10:10,701 --> 00:10:11,241 Jonathan Brown: Thanks, mate. 254 00:10:11,740 --> 00:10:15,340 Campbell Brown: Thanks, brother. Good to speak to you anyway, Italy haven't 255 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:17,140 Campbell Brown: made it again, second year running. 256 00:10:17,870 --> 00:10:18,370 Deano: No shit. 257 00:10:18,590 --> 00:10:23,059 Campbell Brown: Yeah. That's eight years, Italy. I think they won the Euro. 258 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:25,780 Deano: Italy? And for a second time in row aren't in 259 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:26,140 Deano: the World Cup? 260 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:26,660 Campbell Brown: Aren't in there. 261 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:27,819 Deano: I cannot believe that. 262 00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:29,100 Jonathan Brown: Here we go. Group D we're in. 263 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:29,420 Deano: Yes. 264 00:10:29,429 --> 00:10:35,260 Jonathan Brown: France, Denmark, Tunisia and Australia. So you need to finish top two to 265 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:38,410 Jonathan Brown: get through, France is obviously pretty good, but they have failed at a couple 266 00:10:38,410 --> 00:10:39,020 Jonathan Brown: of world cups. 267 00:10:39,020 --> 00:10:41,520 Campbell Brown: But as Pang said, it's not about even advancing. It's just we 268 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,630 Campbell Brown: get to have free parties. 269 00:10:43,130 --> 00:10:44,550 Jonathan Brown: I don't know any of the players though. 270 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:45,559 Campbell Brown: Nah, it doesn't matter. 271 00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:46,002 Jonathan Brown: Remember we used to (inaudible) . 272 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:46,300 Deano: Ned Alex. 273 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:49,410 Jonathan Brown: Ned Alex. There's one for you, my guy. 274 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:50,969 Campbell Brown: Ned was one of the greats. 275 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:51,390 Jonathan Brown: Harry Kewell. 276 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:54,809 Campbell Brown: But Ned was from the Armstrong era and then it got 277 00:10:54,809 --> 00:10:57,290 Campbell Brown: stronger with Neil, Kewell, Cahill. 278 00:10:57,340 --> 00:10:57,880 Jonathan Brown: Paul White. 279 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,450 Deano: The great Paul White. 280 00:10:59,450 --> 00:10:59,501 Jonathan Brown: Paul White. Knight Ferduka. 281 00:10:59,501 --> 00:11:04,640 Brody Palmer: I like the way the official World Cup correspondent, we can't 282 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Brody Palmer: name a single player for Australia. 283 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,470 Deano: But no one can. 284 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,390 Campbell Brown: There's never been a better keeper than Seaman when he 285 00:11:13,390 --> 00:11:14,000 Campbell Brown: was in the box. 286 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:14,679 Brody Palmer: Agreed, yes. 287 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:14,991 Deano: Seaman. Yeah. 288 00:11:14,991 --> 00:11:14,992 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. 289 00:11:14,992 --> 00:11:16,080 Campbell Brown: He was the English keeper. 290 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,339 Deano: Stop laughing. Look at him. 291 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Jonathan Brown: David Seaman, I believe. 292 00:11:19,770 --> 00:11:21,450 Deano: Oh yes. The great Seaman. 293 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,760 Jonathan Brown: He got in a little bit of straw for something. 294 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:22,870 Deano: How old are you? 295 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:26,730 Campbell Brown: All right. Bailey Smith, how many players are going to 296 00:11:26,730 --> 00:11:30,070 Campbell Brown: just take photos of themselves doing drugs? Why the temptation? 297 00:11:30,070 --> 00:11:31,650 Campbell Brown: Why do they do this? 298 00:11:31,790 --> 00:11:35,670 Jonathan Brown: I'm not sure, but it came in a good time 299 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:38,770 Jonathan Brown: actually. I had a conversation with my daughter, Olivia, the other day who's 300 00:11:38,770 --> 00:11:43,620 Jonathan Brown: just got Snapchat on the phone use. I just said, " Look, you 301 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:46,929 Jonathan Brown: take a phone over yourself or you get caught in a compromising position. 302 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:48,100 Jonathan Brown: That's there forever." 303 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:48,929 Campbell Brown: Yeah. In the cloud. 304 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,510 Jonathan Brown: In the cloud forever. So you can't get rid of 305 00:11:52,510 --> 00:11:56,719 Jonathan Brown: that, and obviously the Bailey Smith comes along. He's so big amongst the kids. 306 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,699 Campbell Brown: And what has Lee said about this? Did she notice what 307 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:00,510 Campbell Brown: happened over the weekend? 308 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,760 Jonathan Brown: Well, I've mentioned that to her. I said, "Look at that. Now that's 309 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,610 Jonathan Brown: going to haunt Bailey Smith now for life, that video. He's 310 00:12:06,610 --> 00:12:09,790 Jonathan Brown: there forever." So she's got Bailey Smith on her wallpaper 311 00:12:09,790 --> 00:12:13,591 Jonathan Brown: over her iPad, that's how big Bailey Smith is. And obviously, we can't relate to it. We don't understand the pressure, I suppose this kid is under. 312 00:12:13,591 --> 00:12:20,130 Campbell Brown: Looks like I can relate to him a bit. 313 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:20,511 Brody Palmer: Yeah. That's right, Dog. Yes, yes. 314 00:12:20,511 --> 00:12:20,511 Deano: No, you can't. 315 00:12:20,511 --> 00:12:26,640 Jonathan Brown: Your six pack wise maybe and your men for all seasons calendar. So obviously, 316 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:32,250 Jonathan Brown: it's a tough situation. Look, he's an idiot for getting 317 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:35,930 Jonathan Brown: himself in that situation getting caught, but he's young man. 318 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,710 Jonathan Brown: He's not immune to the pressures of young people out there, oh not the pressures, but 319 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:41,510 Jonathan Brown: the actual things that they can fall into. 320 00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:42,679 Deano: Don't get caught. 321 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:43,180 Campbell Brown: Well, just don't do it. 322 00:12:43,180 --> 00:12:43,210 Jonathan Brown: Just don't do it. 323 00:12:45,170 --> 00:12:46,329 Deano: That's not a possibility. 324 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:47,150 Jonathan Brown: Well, it is a possibility. 325 00:12:47,830 --> 00:12:49,309 Deano: It's not. Everyone does it. 326 00:12:49,309 --> 00:12:50,290 Campbell Brown: I disagree. 327 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,780 Jonathan Brown: Not everyone does it. 328 00:12:51,780 --> 00:12:54,750 Deano: My argument is that heaps of young people don't have 329 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,780 Deano: a drug problem, but use drugs. That's the truth. 330 00:12:58,110 --> 00:12:58,111 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. 331 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:01,730 Campbell Brown: But it becomes a problem down the track as they 332 00:13:01,730 --> 00:13:02,280 Campbell Brown: become more and more depended on- 333 00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:05,670 Deano: More often than not, Dog. It doesn't though, a lot. 334 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,949 Campbell Brown: Well, I think the big thing with footballers and sports 335 00:13:08,950 --> 00:13:12,990 Campbell Brown: people in general, they're natural risk takers, right, which a 336 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:16,729 Campbell Brown: lot of people in other aspects of their life aren't. So whatever 337 00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:21,500 Campbell Brown: they do, they tend to do to the extreme, the way they train, the way they eat, the way 338 00:13:21,980 --> 00:13:24,220 Campbell Brown: they prepare. When they drink, they drink a lot. If 339 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:26,410 Campbell Brown: they do drugs, they do a lot. The thing with 340 00:13:26,410 --> 00:13:29,650 Campbell Brown: the illicit drug policy is if it's going well and 341 00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:33,910 Campbell Brown: doing everything right, you don't hear about it. And you 342 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:37,819 Campbell Brown: speak to Dr. Peter Harcourt and the people in the know, they say it's 343 00:13:38,309 --> 00:13:40,500 Campbell Brown: done tremendous things for a long period of time for a 344 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,819 Campbell Brown: lot of plays. Now obviously, if it's done well, we've 345 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:46,069 Campbell Brown: never heard about it, which is exactly how it's brought 346 00:13:46,070 --> 00:13:46,710 Campbell Brown: up to be. 347 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:46,980 Jonathan Brown: That's right. 348 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,130 Campbell Brown: And then every now and then you get one that's highly publicized, 349 00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:51,761 Campbell Brown: like Bailey Smith- 350 00:13:51,761 --> 00:13:54,829 Deano: And this wasn't a test. This was just dickheadery with a phone. 351 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:55,611 Deano: It's the phone that's got him. 352 00:13:55,611 --> 00:13:59,959 Campbell Brown: I was at Hawthorne when Travis Tuck got out, right? 353 00:14:00,410 --> 00:14:03,130 Campbell Brown: We didn't know. The only people that actually know what's going on 354 00:14:03,130 --> 00:14:06,910 Campbell Brown: behind the scenes are the club doc and maybe the 355 00:14:06,910 --> 00:14:11,670 Campbell Brown: psychologist, right? But the coaches don't, the players don't. They 356 00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:15,850 Campbell Brown: seek counsel, they seek rehab and all that stuff. And 357 00:14:15,850 --> 00:14:19,470 Campbell Brown: we, to be quite honest, wouldn't have a clue about 358 00:14:19,470 --> 00:14:20,590 Campbell Brown: what's going on behind the scenes. 359 00:14:20,630 --> 00:14:25,590 Jonathan Brown: And just quickly in context before Brody talks further, so 360 00:14:26,130 --> 00:14:30,500 Jonathan Brown: the strike's policy now is you only get one anonymous strike and then 361 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:35,690 Jonathan Brown: there's a $5, 000, obviously a secret fine. But strike two 362 00:14:35,770 --> 00:14:39,410 Jonathan Brown: is obviously four week suspension that would become public. And then strike 363 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:44,370 Jonathan Brown: three is a 12 week suspension. So people think you're going to have three strikes 364 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:46,401 Jonathan Brown: before a penalty, that's actually not the case anymore. 365 00:14:46,401 --> 00:14:46,700 Campbell Brown: No, no. 366 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:49,739 Jonathan Brown: That's been tightened right up. And I agree, if Luke 367 00:14:49,740 --> 00:14:53,060 Jonathan Brown: Beveridge said, "Oh, they should just scrap it completely." I'm not sure 368 00:14:53,060 --> 00:14:55,550 Jonathan Brown: that's the answer either because from a welfare point of 369 00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:58,070 Jonathan Brown: view, if you just scraped it completely, we had no checks on the 370 00:14:58,070 --> 00:15:00,470 Jonathan Brown: players. I think they hell of a lot more chance 371 00:15:00,470 --> 00:15:03,880 Jonathan Brown: of being problems down the track, Brown Dog, long term problems 372 00:15:04,050 --> 00:15:05,791 Jonathan Brown: leading into guys' retirements as well. 373 00:15:05,791 --> 00:15:10,990 Campbell Brown: And there's no doubt that players, a decade ago, exploited the self- 374 00:15:11,630 --> 00:15:17,190 Campbell Brown: reporting scheme, right, which was if you did make an error 375 00:15:17,190 --> 00:15:19,190 Campbell Brown: late at night or whatever and you self- reported it 376 00:15:19,190 --> 00:15:25,101 Campbell Brown: before you got tested, then it wouldn't count, right? 377 00:15:25,101 --> 00:15:25,102 Brody Palmer: Uh-huh. 378 00:15:25,102 --> 00:15:25,103 Campbell Brown: So always- 379 00:15:25,103 --> 00:15:25,291 Jonathan Brown: The players were doing that all the time. 380 00:15:25,291 --> 00:15:27,700 Campbell Brown: The players were self- reporting a lot. 381 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:28,550 Deano: Did it count as a strike? 382 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:28,561 Campbell Brown: No, it didn't count as anything. 383 00:15:28,561 --> 00:15:28,561 Deano: Really? 384 00:15:28,561 --> 00:15:28,611 Jonathan Brown: It was a loophole. 385 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,210 Campbell Brown: So if you had one strike maybe, and you're anonymous 386 00:15:36,330 --> 00:15:39,520 Campbell Brown: and you continue to go down that path with your behaviors, you just 387 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Campbell Brown: rang up and self- reported a lot. And you would, 388 00:15:43,270 --> 00:15:44,790 Campbell Brown: it was impossible to get a second strike. 389 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:47,609 Brody Palmer: You two were both... Well, Jonathan, predominantly you were a 390 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:50,130 Brody Palmer: strong leader at a football club. Did you know of 391 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:52,780 Brody Palmer: players during your time as a player and/ or a 392 00:15:52,780 --> 00:15:56,160 Brody Palmer: captain of players that were veering off the straight and narrow, 393 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,239 Brody Palmer: and were you able to pull them aside and say, " That's 394 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,480 Brody Palmer: not what we do here. You're a professional athlete," and 395 00:16:00,530 --> 00:16:02,230 Brody Palmer: able to correct that behavior moving forward? 396 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Jonathan Brown: No, you weren't aware of it. But leadership groups were 397 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,100 Jonathan Brown: told if your club had a bit of an issue. 398 00:16:08,460 --> 00:16:11,060 Deano: Maxie mentioned that since he's been part of the leadership 399 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:14,640 Deano: group, some of the wilder behavior is kept away from him. 400 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,330 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. I found that challenging. When you become captain, you are one 401 00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:22,190 Jonathan Brown: of the boys, but it's all of a sudden, you 402 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:23,120 Jonathan Brown: feel like a timed- 403 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,340 Campbell Brown: Ostracized. Energy shift. 404 00:16:25,340 --> 00:16:30,100 Jonathan Brown: You're ostracized. You're last to find out yeah when all you really care about is the safety 405 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:33,230 Jonathan Brown: of your players and making sure the wellbeing of your players. 406 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,780 Jonathan Brown: So you actually would like to be there, but that's 407 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:39,640 Jonathan Brown: just a natural thing that happens to most, especially when 408 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,330 Jonathan Brown: they get the captaincy title. So look, I don't think 409 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:45,240 Jonathan Brown: they can do much more. The fact is Jeff Kenna 410 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,100 Jonathan Brown: came in and said they probably should get suspended for 411 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:49,900 Jonathan Brown: two years. I'm not sure about that. Yeah, young people 412 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Jonathan Brown: make mistakes, they get on the drink. And we know when we're 413 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,530 Jonathan Brown: on the drink, you make poor decisions. Now I'm not 414 00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:58,010 Jonathan Brown: defending the behavior, people make mistakes. And I can understand that they're 415 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,980 Jonathan Brown: so confronted by it in society now. So I don't 416 00:17:00,980 --> 00:17:06,560 Jonathan Brown: want to see players like Bailey Smith rubbed out for two years. And the other thing is too, just 417 00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:09,530 Jonathan Brown: remember the AFL is one of the only leagues in the world 418 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:16,950 Jonathan Brown: that actually test their players for illicit drugs outside of game day. 419 00:17:16,950 --> 00:17:19,960 Jonathan Brown: So there's no way known the Players Association would agree to something like that, as draconian as that, because 420 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,939 Jonathan Brown: the AFL player will just say, " Well, no way, none. We're 421 00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:22,870 Jonathan Brown: not signing up to that." 422 00:17:22,910 --> 00:17:25,550 Campbell Brown: And you're running the gauntlet every time you go down 423 00:17:25,550 --> 00:17:28,730 Campbell Brown: that path, right? Look at Lockey Keith and Josh Thomas, 424 00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:29,879 Campbell Brown: they got- 425 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,050 Jonathan Brown: Wendell Sailor. 426 00:17:31,340 --> 00:17:34,670 Campbell Brown: They got down for illicit drug use on game day 427 00:17:34,670 --> 00:17:38,220 Campbell Brown: because of what they'd done the weekend before. And I 428 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,690 Campbell Brown: don't know what they're putting in their body, what was it 429 00:17:39,690 --> 00:17:43,820 Campbell Brown: cut with? Some bloody horse tranquilizer thing. 430 00:17:44,010 --> 00:17:44,300 Deano: Fentanyl or something? 431 00:17:44,859 --> 00:17:50,270 Jonathan Brown: That's right. Wendell Sailor, and this was public, Wendell Sailor, he got two years suspension because he'd 432 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:53,540 Jonathan Brown: been out partying with these former State of Origin teammates 433 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:57,330 Jonathan Brown: a few days earlier and just had the smallest trace 434 00:17:57,770 --> 00:18:02,740 Jonathan Brown: of enlisted substance in his game on game day, he 435 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:08,070 Jonathan Brown: had a smallest trace. Now, it wouldn't have been performance enhancing, however, the that's 436 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:10,560 Jonathan Brown: ASADA. That falls under ASADA, which is an automatic two 437 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,050 Jonathan Brown: years suspension. 438 00:18:11,050 --> 00:18:13,320 Deano: These guys are taking these risks because they do it 439 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,630 Deano: all the time. That's the truth, they do it all 440 00:18:15,630 --> 00:18:19,070 Deano: the time. And that's why they get caught occasionally because more 441 00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:20,021 Deano: often than not, they don't get caught. 442 00:18:20,021 --> 00:18:24,080 Jonathan Brown: Well remember Dale Lewis who was in the media a few years ago, he got 443 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,429 Jonathan Brown: Virtue running out of town for saying that I think 444 00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:28,511 Jonathan Brown: he might have said 50% of players or something. 445 00:18:28,511 --> 00:18:28,512 Deano: 70%. 446 00:18:28,512 --> 00:18:31,310 Jonathan Brown: 70%, yeah. But he was screamed at and shouted at. 447 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:33,310 Deano: To me, bro, that feels accurate. 448 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:33,820 Jonathan Brown: Really? 449 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:36,540 Brody Palmer: I think that this day and age, there would be at least 70% of the AFL 450 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:38,920 Brody Palmer: population that are around that. 451 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,890 Jonathan Brown: That is a big statement, mate. There's about 900 players. 452 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:42,960 Brody Palmer: You're right. 453 00:18:43,300 --> 00:18:47,280 Campbell Brown: The thing is you can't say that with any certainty 454 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,960 Campbell Brown: because there's no way of knowing. 455 00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:51,590 Jonathan Brown: Where would you put it at, Dog? You're out and about 456 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,490 Jonathan Brown: more than all of us. Of course you're paid to 457 00:18:56,490 --> 00:18:57,241 Jonathan Brown: be out there working. 458 00:18:57,241 --> 00:19:01,790 Campbell Brown: Mate, I'm the last person that they would speak to about 459 00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:04,180 Campbell Brown: it. Because unlike you mate, I've never touched a drug in my 460 00:19:04,180 --> 00:19:06,251 Campbell Brown: life. So I'm not in the mix. 461 00:19:06,251 --> 00:19:09,310 Brody Palmer: But you have blind drunk Polax, which is in the same realms of 462 00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:10,179 Brody Palmer: doing drugs. 463 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:14,090 Jonathan Brown: Oh no, no. You're just talking about the illicit stuff. I guess what 464 00:19:14,090 --> 00:19:16,010 Jonathan Brown: you are saying Brown Dog is you're not around it. 465 00:19:16,050 --> 00:19:21,830 Jonathan Brown: And if you are not- 466 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:28,651 Campbell Brown: If you don't do it, you're not around it. 467 00:19:28,651 --> 00:19:28,652 Jonathan Brown: You're not around it, that's right. 468 00:19:28,652 --> 00:19:31,131 Campbell Brown: It's like a little secret society, right? Like the people that do it, you speak to about it and everything. And those that don't, and they know that you don't do it and you're against it, you're left to the side. 469 00:19:31,131 --> 00:19:34,630 Deano: Yeah. It feels like it should be privately dealt with 470 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:37,510 Deano: an education just for their welfare, they should be made okay. 471 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:37,701 Jonathan Brown: It's an interesting chat. 472 00:19:37,701 --> 00:19:41,149 Campbell Brown: But when a photo comes out, "What the (beep)." We're all across it, everyone's 473 00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:43,730 Campbell Brown: across it. How quick did that image spread around? 474 00:19:43,730 --> 00:19:47,750 Jonathan Brown: You take responsibility. I thought Bailey Smith handled it fantastic. You take responsibility, you don't duck and 475 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:53,000 Jonathan Brown: dive. He was upfront and honest about the challenges he 476 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:58,550 Jonathan Brown: faces, about his anxiety and everything like that. And I think everyone knows that young people 477 00:19:58,550 --> 00:20:03,520 Jonathan Brown: make mistakes. If you own it, then you can be forgiven. 478 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:03,810 Brody Palmer: Absolutely. 479 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:06,930 Deano: People smell bullshit if you don't. And most importantly, don't 480 00:20:06,930 --> 00:20:07,821 Deano: have your dad in front of the media. 481 00:20:07,821 --> 00:20:12,230 Speaker 6: Can you go and get the (beep) out my life and out my property. And ring 482 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:17,790 Speaker 6: up and make the time like every other (beep) does who has got any matters, okay? 483 00:20:17,790 --> 00:20:17,911 Campbell Brown: Unless you want one of those great sound bites. 484 00:20:17,911 --> 00:20:22,970 Jonathan Brown: Brown Dog, do you agree with the suspension? Because obviously he's already on a big punishment, 485 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:26,510 Jonathan Brown: the public punishment. Do you agree with the suspension considering 486 00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:27,450 Jonathan Brown: he was the off season? 487 00:20:27,859 --> 00:20:33,450 Campbell Brown: Oh, I don't. But there is a precedent. There is a precedent 488 00:20:34,869 --> 00:20:38,240 Campbell Brown: set now because of Mummy, and Travis Tuck, and a 489 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Campbell Brown: few others that have gone down that path. But so I think the two things that the public hate, one, they look at the illicit drug 490 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,330 Campbell Brown: policy and they're like, " Ah, it's all bullshit," right? Because 491 00:20:50,330 --> 00:20:52,800 Campbell Brown: if Ben Cousins went through his whole AFL career yeah 492 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,199 Campbell Brown: and never tested positive once, how does it work, right? So there's 493 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:56,929 Campbell Brown: that perception. 494 00:20:57,410 --> 00:20:58,850 Jonathan Brown: But we don't know he tested positive. Yeah. 495 00:20:58,850 --> 00:21:03,609 Campbell Brown: And the second one is they hate every time a player 496 00:21:03,609 --> 00:21:07,629 Campbell Brown: gets caught drink driving, or getting caught with drugs, or 497 00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:10,660 Campbell Brown: doing something wrong that they all come out and say, " 498 00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:15,000 Campbell Brown: Oh, mental health, mental health." And people with genuine proper 499 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,270 Campbell Brown: mental health problems, we're not saying they don't, right, take 500 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,389 Campbell Brown: huge offense to the fact that AFL footballers just throw 501 00:21:21,390 --> 00:21:24,129 Campbell Brown: that word out there. And they might have it, but 502 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,060 Campbell Brown: it's used a hell of a lot to get out of other 503 00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:28,109 Campbell Brown: incidences. I'll say that. 504 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,580 Deano: Yeah. It's the playbook at the moment. Hey, let's go 505 00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:32,369 Deano: to the Ds. 506 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:36,170 Campbell Brown: That's as deep as we had since Bailey Smith. 507 00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:38,540 Deano: Do you think I look like Bailey Smith? Is there a bit of Bailey Smith 508 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:46,130 Deano: in me? Bang! What happened to the Ds? Three losses, 509 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,869 Deano: a big old fight at a restaurant. This is pretty 510 00:21:48,869 --> 00:21:49,609 Deano: wild, man. 511 00:21:49,619 --> 00:21:52,600 Jonathan Brown: Oh they're they're imploding, don't they? Yeah, the boys come at a 512 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,250 Jonathan Brown: really good time for the last- 513 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:54,909 Campbell Brown: Who have they beat this year, when you think about it? 514 00:21:55,310 --> 00:21:57,500 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. They've come up against the last three teams are 515 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,850 Jonathan Brown: pretty good teams, they have lost. You don't have to be 516 00:22:00,850 --> 00:22:04,379 Jonathan Brown: absolutely flying though in the first half of the year and they are on top of 517 00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:07,190 Jonathan Brown: the ladder. So I think this bias coming a really 518 00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:10,010 Jonathan Brown: good time for them to reset before they play Brisbane next 519 00:22:10,010 --> 00:22:14,790 Jonathan Brown: Thursday at the MCG. Their connection though with their midfield just kicking 520 00:22:14,790 --> 00:22:17,300 Jonathan Brown: the ball into their forwards is not great either, and 521 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:20,170 Jonathan Brown: they haven't been able to pressure up opposition team. So all 522 00:22:20,490 --> 00:22:22,670 Jonathan Brown: those things combined, Brown Dog, no wonder they're just getting beaten. 523 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:27,369 Campbell Brown: I think their forward line is, and always has been 524 00:22:27,369 --> 00:22:30,760 Campbell Brown: their weak Achilles heel. It just worked so well for 525 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,680 Campbell Brown: that month of September last year and everyone was chiming in 526 00:22:35,260 --> 00:22:37,619 Campbell Brown: and you had some young kids like Cosi Pickett that 527 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:40,409 Campbell Brown: was sparking up and hitting the scoreboard. It was going 528 00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:42,770 Campbell Brown: along okay for the first six or seven weeks, but it 529 00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:45,700 Campbell Brown: was still a bit of it. Ben Brown, he can't get a 530 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,800 Campbell Brown: kick at the moment. I know he kicked two goals, but he was dropped. He was 531 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Campbell Brown: suspended in the AFL. He hasn't kicked a bag or looked 532 00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:54,430 Campbell Brown: like he was going to play that well. Bailey Fritsch is 533 00:22:54,430 --> 00:22:57,890 Campbell Brown: a star, but he's not a key position. He needs 534 00:22:57,890 --> 00:23:00,640 Campbell Brown: the big bodies to bring the border ground and those 535 00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:03,260 Campbell Brown: things. You don't have Tom McDonald up there at the 536 00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:06,270 Campbell Brown: moment. Their mids could give him a tick. Their defense 537 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:08,530 Campbell Brown: is okay and especially when May comes backwards. But it's 538 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:09,620 Campbell Brown: their forward line that's killing them. 539 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:12,580 Jonathan Brown: May is the big issue not playing there. It was 540 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:17,310 Jonathan Brown: the issue last Sunday, I don't recall. If you actually 541 00:23:17,310 --> 00:23:19,500 Jonathan Brown: look back down last few weeks, they have struggled. 542 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,021 Campbell Brown: They'd probably win in free plays. 543 00:23:20,021 --> 00:23:25,169 Brody Palmer: Do you know what it is? Is it's all (beep) mental weakness in my opinion. 544 00:23:26,590 --> 00:23:31,901 Deano: Meanwhile, Collingwood, they rolled everyone that matters. What is happening there? 545 00:23:31,901 --> 00:23:35,080 Jonathan Brown: They've been very impressive. They pressure as well as anyone 546 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Jonathan Brown: in the competition, don't they? They tackled Fremantle into submission two 547 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,320 Jonathan Brown: weeks ago. What was it? Three weeks ago. They've beat 548 00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:44,340 Jonathan Brown: Carlton as well. They beat St. Kilda at the start 549 00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:49,500 Jonathan Brown: of the year. Now they've beaten Melbourne. Hawthorne is no easy pushovers either, so Hawthorne has been 550 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:50,310 Jonathan Brown: challenging teams. 551 00:23:50,350 --> 00:23:52,880 Brody Palmer: I find it very humorous that the Eagles have beat 552 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,660 Brody Palmer: Collingwood, that's the only win for the year. 553 00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:57,570 Jonathan Brown: What happened that day? Wouldn't you be ruining that? And they could be top four otherwise. 554 00:23:59,150 --> 00:24:03,060 Campbell Brown: There's a young guy called Ollie Henry who started as 555 00:24:03,090 --> 00:24:06,720 Campbell Brown: a mid sub three weeks ago against Fremantle Dockers, came 556 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Campbell Brown: on and kicked four in the week, right? Then the next 557 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:16,740 Campbell Brown: week, they played Carlton, took a really big strong mark. 558 00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:18,700 Campbell Brown: Went back and kicked a goal late in the last 559 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:22,670 Campbell Brown: quarter that won them the game. Then the following week, 560 00:24:23,369 --> 00:24:27,030 Campbell Brown: they played The Hawks. The Hawks are challenging, they're on level terms. 561 00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:28,480 Campbell Brown: Who bobs up at the five minute mark? 562 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,120 Deano: Ollie Henry. 563 00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:31,820 Campbell Brown: Ollie Henry takes them up, misses the first. Goes back 564 00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:36,740 Campbell Brown: and kicks the second, they win the game. And then late yesterday, Ollie 565 00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:42,190 Campbell Brown: Henry marks and goals. He's becoming the great finisher for 566 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:44,390 Campbell Brown: the Pies. 567 00:24:44,690 --> 00:24:44,879 Jonathan Brown: He's good. 568 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,129 Campbell Brown: That's four weeks in a row he's kicked significant goals for them. 569 00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:51,020 Jonathan Brown: He's in duty and he ain't quite too old, Ollie Henry. So I love 570 00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:54,830 Jonathan Brown: a young player, they stay engaged in the game. Because to be able to make that kick, you have to stay 571 00:24:57,670 --> 00:25:03,899 Jonathan Brown: engaged in the game. And no more crackers ads, embrace the moment, absolutely. So he's been a 572 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,280 Jonathan Brown: good pickup. I love Ginnivan, just getting under the skin. 573 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,590 Jonathan Brown: And Maxie... 574 00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:09,950 Deano: Maxie, that was crazy. But I don't reckon he's going to deliver a bit more goal- 575 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:12,580 Deano: wise, Ginnivan if he wants to be the complete man. 576 00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:16,210 Jonathan Brown: I don't think they'd say that. I think they'd be just happy with the contribution of the 577 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,970 Jonathan Brown: young players. The one thing I will say about Collingwood, they can't afford 578 00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:21,330 Jonathan Brown: any injuries. They drop off the cliff very quickly. 579 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:21,369 Deano: Right. 580 00:25:21,869 --> 00:25:24,810 Jonathan Brown: They've just been a joy to watch, and hopefully we can 581 00:25:24,810 --> 00:25:27,800 Jonathan Brown: get bucks in maybe later in the week when we do the podcast. 582 00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:30,629 Deano: The Mason Cox is not an experiment, he's just a 583 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:31,189 Deano: good rock man now. 584 00:25:31,270 --> 00:25:34,220 Jonathan Brown: Well, he has the last month. I thought his career was nearly cooked 585 00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:37,990 Jonathan Brown: after Brisbane Lions' game at The Gabba when Mick was questioning, 586 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:41,409 Jonathan Brown: why you have the speed dealer glasses on. Didn't realize it 587 00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:42,090 Jonathan Brown: was for safety. 588 00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:43,710 Deano: He deserves to be in the ones. Am I wrong? 589 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,420 Jonathan Brown: The last month he's been fantastic. But I thought his 590 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:48,720 Jonathan Brown: career was as good as cooked after that Brisbane game. 591 00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:52,420 Campbell Brown: He's much maligned. And I think a little bit unfairly, 592 00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:55,350 Campbell Brown: maybe it's because he's such a big guy with a 593 00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:57,110 Campbell Brown: big personality in a big club, right? 594 00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:57,200 Deano: Mm-hmm. 595 00:25:57,869 --> 00:26:00,160 Campbell Brown: But you got to remember where he came from, where he started. 596 00:26:00,570 --> 00:26:03,850 Campbell Brown: This is a guy that's highly intelligent that had ( beep) 597 00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:10,440 Campbell Brown: never heard of AFL Footy until about 2014. He flew 598 00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:13,840 Campbell Brown: to LA to do some testing and all this stuff, 599 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:19,330 Campbell Brown: learnt the game from scratch, right? He's come to Collingwood, 600 00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:21,629 Campbell Brown: he nearly won them a premiership. They put them in 601 00:26:21,630 --> 00:26:23,530 Campbell Brown: a prelim, unbelievable. 602 00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:23,820 Deano: He won them a prelim. 603 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Campbell Brown: Yeah. The stands was chanting USA, USA at an Australian 604 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,330 Campbell Brown: rules going on footy. He's got a good personality in 605 00:26:32,330 --> 00:26:34,810 Campbell Brown: terms of his media coverage and everything. He'll end up 606 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:38,369 Campbell Brown: playing a hundred games for Collingwood in a fairly successful 607 00:26:38,369 --> 00:26:41,030 Campbell Brown: era. And yeah, he's been in and out. He's had to overcome 608 00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:43,450 Campbell Brown: six eye surgeries, right, he's nearly blind. 609 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,410 Jonathan Brown: Hence the glasses. 610 00:26:44,460 --> 00:26:47,729 Campbell Brown: Hence the glasses. You could honestly, without talking him up 611 00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:50,920 Campbell Brown: too much, make a movie about his journey from where 612 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Campbell Brown: he came from to where he ends. 613 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:53,700 Deano: Yeah. That's wild. 614 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,350 Campbell Brown: And we, for some reason in this code are critical 615 00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:57,899 Campbell Brown: of him, of what he's done. 616 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,610 Deano: Well, it's not respect (beep). I feel like he's not respected. 617 00:27:00,670 --> 00:27:02,290 Campbell Brown: It's unbelievable what he's done. 618 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:02,500 Deano: Yeah. 619 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:02,600 Jonathan Brown: Unbelievable. 620 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,090 Deano: Yeah. 621 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:06,310 Jonathan Brown: The final series in 2018 was magnificent. But he did 622 00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:09,720 Jonathan Brown: look in trouble a few weeks ago. He clearly was 623 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,080 Jonathan Brown: a player that had lost confidence. I think there were doubts at Collingwood actually 624 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,640 Jonathan Brown: as to whether he could go on. But now he's certainly 625 00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:20,550 Jonathan Brown: earned the confidence back, the faithful, and probably the coach 626 00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:23,510 Jonathan Brown: as well because they're doing a good job with Brodie 627 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:26,500 Jonathan Brown: Grundy not there, Cox and Darcy Cameron, that's a pretty 628 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:27,020 Jonathan Brown: handy combination. 629 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:28,960 Campbell Brown: Yeah. Oh, he's the rookie in my team of the week this 630 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,409 Campbell Brown: week. I thought he was the best man on the 631 00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:33,060 Campbell Brown: ground and his last couple of weeks, he has helped 632 00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:35,221 Campbell Brown: him win the game. So yeah, good play. Good play. 633 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:35,501 Jonathan Brown: USA, USA, USA. 634 00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:41,100 Deano: USA. WTB baby. We're going to go some ads back 635 00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:45,820 Deano: in a second. Welcome back to Browny's Podcast. The buy 636 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:47,510 Deano: round suck, let's be completely honest. 637 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,869 Jonathan Brown: Oh (beep). How bad is this split round over three weeks. The game loses 638 00:27:50,869 --> 00:27:54,090 Jonathan Brown: momentum for only North Melbourne and GWS to be the 639 00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:57,750 Jonathan Brown: only game on Sunday afternoon. What is it? 13, 000, 640 00:27:57,750 --> 00:28:01,510 Jonathan Brown: that was a surprise. I can't believe 13, 000. But I don't know North Melbourne 641 00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:02,750 Jonathan Brown: turning up- 642 00:28:03,109 --> 00:28:06,850 Campbell Brown: I want a head count. AFL reckon there was 13, 000. There were people 643 00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:09,520 Campbell Brown: at the ground that said there's no more than 7, 000. 644 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,850 Deano: I reckon they were guilty of that when you were playing for the 645 00:28:11,850 --> 00:28:13,619 Deano: Gold Coast Suns. They would always say, " Oh, we've got 646 00:28:13,619 --> 00:28:17,820 Deano: a crowd of 11, 000." Looked like there was 85 people there. How are you getting that number? 647 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Campbell Brown: They fudge the numbers for sure, JB. 648 00:28:20,010 --> 00:28:23,750 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, I'm surprised. I thought there was a chance. I think the lowest 649 00:28:23,859 --> 00:28:27,220 Jonathan Brown: all time is about 8, 000 at Marvel Stadium. Anyway, well done- 650 00:28:27,220 --> 00:28:29,360 Campbell Brown: First of all, footy is good, but the split rounds is not good. 651 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,760 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, that kills it. Thursday Night Footy, well, it's going to 652 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,460 Jonathan Brown: come in but I actually liked it. I remember one year 653 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,380 Jonathan Brown: or a couple of years where it was Sydney versus 654 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:41,860 Jonathan Brown: Collingwood in Sydney, a huge crowd about 80, 000 there 655 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:45,140 Jonathan Brown: and that was the only game of that weekend. And then the eight other 656 00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,640 Jonathan Brown: games were on the following weekend, so all the teams can 657 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,610 Jonathan Brown: get a buy. Even if you did four games, one weekend, 658 00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:56,890 Jonathan Brown: five games another weekend, but I'm just not fan of the split round. We just lose momentum. Lose momentum. 659 00:28:56,930 --> 00:29:00,140 Deano: Brody, I just realized that you're still sitting here shirtless, 660 00:29:00,430 --> 00:29:01,220 Deano: nipples out. 661 00:29:01,260 --> 00:29:02,730 Brody Palmer: And it's impressive, isn't it? 662 00:29:02,730 --> 00:29:06,770 Jonathan Brown: You've got buff part nipples. Decent size nipples there. 663 00:29:07,460 --> 00:29:09,820 Brody Palmer: And shave of the chest here. I've seen Campbell come 664 00:29:09,820 --> 00:29:12,540 Brody Palmer: out without the shave and it's not on at this 665 00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:12,610 Brody Palmer: day and age. 666 00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:15,410 Jonathan Brown: Hey boys, what do you think of my performance Friday Night 667 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,470 Jonathan Brown: when we were commentating for Fox footy. We were actually 668 00:29:19,470 --> 00:29:21,250 Jonathan Brown: doing the pre- game at half time, but we were 669 00:29:21,250 --> 00:29:26,520 Jonathan Brown: sitting up at level four and we were delivered from the catering staff 670 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Jonathan Brown: down in the media department. We were delivered a beautiful 671 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,710 Jonathan Brown: Ragu pasta. 672 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,900 Deano: Jonathan. Dog, no. 673 00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:33,760 Campbell Brown: That's a crime. 674 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:37,970 Deano: Browny can't sit in the stands with a China plate 675 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:41,030 Deano: and cutlery while there's other fans freezing their tits off 676 00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:43,570 Deano: eating a pie. You can't be seen doing that. 677 00:29:43,570 --> 00:29:46,070 Campbell Brown: We're lucky it wasn't the rabbit terrine that they served 678 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:46,731 Campbell Brown: last year where you got food poison. 679 00:29:46,731 --> 00:29:46,732 Deano: Terrine gate, I forgot about that shit. 680 00:29:46,732 --> 00:29:53,760 Jonathan Brown: It was huge, wasn't it? But I felt right at home, just sitting there with 681 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,250 Jonathan Brown: my cutlery and eating my beautiful Ragu pasta 682 00:29:56,250 --> 00:29:59,410 Deano: You and Gas in the stands and a Ragu. 683 00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:01,090 Jonathan Brown: Yes, we did get a couple of funny looks, I 684 00:30:01,090 --> 00:30:04,350 Jonathan Brown: must admit. My there old mate beside me was going through his third, and fourth one. He felt very comfortable. 685 00:30:09,530 --> 00:30:12,479 Campbell Brown: The country boy from Olleyville Valley near the Ragu. 686 00:30:13,030 --> 00:30:15,220 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. The only thing I was missing was a nice scarf. 687 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,110 Deano: Oh lovely. Brods, what do you got? 688 00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:21,970 Brody Palmer: So I was with some friends last weekend, right, and 689 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:24,920 Brody Palmer: this actually caught me by surprise, I was lost of 690 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480 Brody Palmer: words. So we're going through the Mercer's drive thru, right? We're 691 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,330 Brody Palmer: on the way out, we're like, "We need a bit of a snack to fill up 692 00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:31,970 Brody Palmer: beforehand," right? And we go through the Mercer's drive thru and 693 00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:34,870 Brody Palmer: I'm driving, girlfriend is in the front and two people 694 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:36,790 Brody Palmer: in the back, right, no worries. And we pull up 695 00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:39,500 Brody Palmer: and then I'm like "All right, what does everyone want?" And then they said to me, " 696 00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:43,900 Brody Palmer: Oh, what is there?" I'm like, " Well, it's McDonald's." For starters, everyone 697 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:44,680 Brody Palmer: knows what the menu is. 698 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:44,950 Deano: Yeah. 699 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:47,830 Brody Palmer: I was like, " What are you getting?" They're like, " Oh, I don't know." And they took three or four 700 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:50,410 Brody Palmer: minutes. And the person is waiting on the other the end 701 00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:51,100 Brody Palmer: of the telecom. 702 00:30:51,170 --> 00:30:51,820 Campbell Brown: Anyone tweeting? 703 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,270 Brody Palmer: The line was, I reckon, five or six deep. They 704 00:30:54,270 --> 00:30:56,070 Brody Palmer: didn't know what was on the McDonald's menu. 705 00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:56,560 Deano: Oh my God. 706 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,040 Brody Palmer: Everyone knows what's on the McDonald's menu. It never changes. 707 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,850 Jonathan Brown: But the problem is when you go through the drive thru, 708 00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:05,490 Jonathan Brown: they don't have all the menu there. 709 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,230 Deano: Oh yeah. 710 00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:09,770 Jonathan Brown: If it turns over, it might be a Big Mac special and there 711 00:31:09,770 --> 00:31:13,840 Jonathan Brown: might be a Kid LAROI meal. But you go, " I actually want to see the full menu." 712 00:31:13,890 --> 00:31:15,600 Brody Palmer: But you've got a store wall. I never deviate. I 713 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,630 Brody Palmer: am a double quarter pounder with a large Sprite every 714 00:31:19,630 --> 00:31:21,510 Brody Palmer: day of the week, thanks very much, on my way. What 715 00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:21,810 Brody Palmer: are you? 716 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:25,380 Campbell Brown: I'm a McNuggets with the sweet and sour sauce. 717 00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:25,910 Deano: Oh bitch. 718 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:26,640 Brody Palmer: How many nuggets? 719 00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:27,100 Campbell Brown: Oh, 18. 720 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:28,560 Brody Palmer: 18. What are you doing? 721 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,050 Deano: Big Mac, extra pickles, man. Medium meal. 722 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,310 Brody Palmer: See, we all know our order. How can you rock 723 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:36,600 Brody Palmer: up there and go, "Oh, I don't really know what I want. I don't really know 724 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,060 Brody Palmer: what's on the menu." 725 00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:37,610 Campbell Brown: It's peculiar. 726 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,470 Jonathan Brown: Fillet- O- Fish, Apple Pie and water. 727 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,000 Deano: Ooh, that's a lie. 728 00:31:41,250 --> 00:31:41,371 Brody Palmer: That is a horrendous order. 729 00:31:41,371 --> 00:31:42,851 Deano: That's not a real order. 730 00:31:42,851 --> 00:31:45,630 Brody Palmer: Could you imagine that combination, Fillet- O- Fish and then 731 00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:46,661 Brody Palmer: wash it down with an apple pie. That is horrendous. 732 00:31:46,661 --> 00:31:49,850 Jonathan Brown: With a McFlurry on top. 733 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,700 Brody Palmer: That is a horrendous order. 734 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:53,130 Deano: That's not real. 735 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:58,740 Jonathan Brown: It's a large Big Mac meal, then the cheeseburger. And 736 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:00,670 Jonathan Brown: what I do is I grab the chips and I put them 737 00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:03,670 Jonathan Brown: in the cheeseburger just to get the nice big serving 738 00:32:03,670 --> 00:32:04,700 Jonathan Brown: of heartburn. 739 00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:08,000 Brody Palmer: You are really training off, aren't you? And a cheeseburger on top? 740 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,930 Jonathan Brown: I'm ( beep) trained off as much as you. Have a look at your guts. 741 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560 Brody Palmer: I have lowered the chair below the desk, just so that 742 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:13,921 Brody Palmer: covers up. 743 00:32:13,921 --> 00:32:16,270 Deano: Put this tip in your pocket. This comes straight from 744 00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:18,740 Deano: Kylie Brown. When you order a Big Mac and ask them to steam 745 00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:22,400 Deano: that bun, you get a hotter, fresher, squishier bun. 746 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,390 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. She goes to McDonald's, she orders a McChicken with a steamed bun 747 00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:27,080 Jonathan Brown: and cheese. 748 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:27,940 Deano: It's genius. 749 00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:29,530 Brody Palmer: Ooh. Come on, man. 750 00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:31,080 Deano: You got a Water World coming up now? 751 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,340 Campbell Brown: I certainly do. I'm involved in Water World. I've got 752 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,210 Campbell Brown: two Water Worlds today. I'm involved in one. 753 00:32:36,290 --> 00:32:40,650 Deano: Don't move. Hey, welcome back to Browny's Podcast. It's time 754 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:42,151 Deano: for Water World. 755 00:32:42,151 --> 00:32:46,570 Campbell Brown: The first Water World, it features me. I was at a bar 756 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,470 Campbell Brown: in Brisbane, just near the water having a drink. I 757 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:53,730 Campbell Brown: bumped into a father of a friend of mine or 758 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:56,580 Campbell Brown: a person I know, acquaintance, and I had a chat 759 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:00,810 Campbell Brown: to him and he introduced me to his partner. 760 00:33:01,310 --> 00:33:04,320 Deano: Right. So this guy is the father of your mate. 761 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Campbell Brown: Later on that night, I bumped into the so- called 762 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,610 Campbell Brown: acquaintance, my friend. He came over and said, " Hello, you up in 763 00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:14,910 Campbell Brown: Brisbane?" I said, " Oh mate, I met your dad earlier at 764 00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:17,310 Campbell Brown: the bar and your mum for the first time." He 765 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,900 Campbell Brown: looked at me really, really funny and his face changed. 766 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:21,850 Campbell Brown: He said, " My mum is in the UK." 767 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:28,801 Deano: Oh no way, no way. 768 00:33:28,801 --> 00:33:28,802 Jonathan Brown: Old man, the dirty dog. 769 00:33:28,802 --> 00:33:32,120 Campbell Brown: Well I don't know, but it wasn't his mum and he was 770 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Campbell Brown: a bit taken aback. This Water World, it came across my 771 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,320 Campbell Brown: screen last night. And this is the rubbish that absolutely 772 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,280 Campbell Brown: makes my blood boil. So two so- called professors, they 773 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,600 Campbell Brown: are professors but they're so- called in my eyes. David 774 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,020 Campbell Brown: Burton and Kate Cantrell from the University of Southern Queensland 775 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,920 Campbell Brown: have taken aim at the beloved character, Bandit and Bluey, 776 00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:09,540 Campbell Brown: okay? So they've done a thesis, a piece and they 777 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:13,830 Campbell Brown: have accused him of all sorts of controversial things. They've 778 00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:16,110 Campbell Brown: sparked a fair bit of backlash in the process. In 779 00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:18,750 Campbell Brown: this piece, the lecturers claim that there is a dark 780 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:21,799 Campbell Brown: side to this lovable character and they hid out at 781 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Campbell Brown: the stereotypical larrikin personality implying that he's a bad dad. 782 00:34:28,390 --> 00:34:32,560 Campbell Brown: And you want to know why that this fictitious dog character 783 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,750 Campbell Brown: is a bad dad? 784 00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:34,190 Deano: Yes. 785 00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:39,080 Campbell Brown: In one episode, Bandit holds Bluey back from the finish 786 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,819 Campbell Brown: line so he can win an obstacle course. In another, 787 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,819 Campbell Brown: he lords the victory of over his younger brother, Stripe, 788 00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:51,440 Campbell Brown: taunting, saying that big brothers always beat little brothers. A 789 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,560 Campbell Brown: jibe that Bluey imitates and he teases Bingo. Even Bandit's 790 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,100 Campbell Brown: name conjures up the small time crimes of Bushrangers in 791 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,650 Campbell Brown: Australia, the graffiti outlaws. 792 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:04,469 Deano: He sounds like a prick so far to be completely honest. 793 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,230 Campbell Brown: So they've taken aim at him for his name and 794 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:11,160 Campbell Brown: for a few little playful teasing gags for his youngest 795 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,680 Campbell Brown: sister. They've implied he's delved into bullying behaviors. The writers 796 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,029 Campbell Brown: also criticized the fact that Bandit is praised for his 797 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:25,040 Campbell Brown: parenting prowess, while the mother, Chile, is figuratively and literally 798 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:29,069 Campbell Brown: in the background, right? This is an absolute disgrace. This 799 00:35:29,070 --> 00:35:31,310 Campbell Brown: is a cartoon. And if you are to watch a 800 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:35,489 Campbell Brown: children's cartoon and sit there and be perennially outraged, and 801 00:35:35,489 --> 00:35:38,310 Campbell Brown: constantly for looking at things to be offended at, you 802 00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:41,640 Campbell Brown: can go and get ( beep). Water World, the Dog is 803 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,460 Campbell Brown: angry. I'm get out of here. 804 00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:46,700 Jonathan Brown: Oh, I love it. Oh, I love it. Great Water World. And you know 805 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:51,500 Jonathan Brown: what too, Dog? Brothers can get into other brothers. Siblings Michael 806 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:54,540 Jonathan Brown: said to his brother, Brett one day, " My dad slept 807 00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:57,050 Jonathan Brown: with your mum." That's a good (inaudible) there. 808 00:35:57,050 --> 00:35:57,111 Campbell Brown: See how the world goes down. 809 00:35:57,111 --> 00:36:02,580 Deano: Also if you're going to be a dick, Homer Simpson used to choke Bart every episode. 810 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:03,580 Deano: Do you remember that choking? 811 00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:04,040 Campbell Brown: I know. 812 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:05,169 Deano: Come on. 813 00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:09,469 Campbell Brown: Imagine being a professor studying all your life and being 814 00:36:09,469 --> 00:36:10,440 Campbell Brown: critical of Bluey. 815 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,910 Jonathan Brown: What a boring ( beep). 816 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,049 Campbell Brown: Correct. I'd leave the university. 817 00:36:14,370 --> 00:36:17,690 Deano: Hey. Next podcast, we're going to discuss the possibility of 818 00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:20,500 Deano: us buying a table at the Foo Fight, that boxing night, 819 00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:22,710 Deano: and taking along one of our listeners. 820 00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:23,830 Jonathan Brown: Okay. Great idea. 821 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,890 Campbell Brown: Let's float it and then we won't actually do it.