1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty. Ravelie from every Angle wants you. 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: By nib joining me again the Great Gordon Tallasno austraight In, 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: Paul Crawley and Dave Ricchio Tonight's telstra top story. The 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Paramount Eels Board is meeting as we speak to determine 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: who their head coach will be in twenty twenty five. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Dave, what is the latest. 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brak, certainly this has been a process for the 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: Paramotter Reels Board and as you said, there's a board 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: meeting currently underway and this is the basically the last 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: step to determining who will take over the reins of 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: the Paramatter Reels. The most significant decision, I would say 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: in the past eleven years, given the tenure of Brad Afa, 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: we know that it is still down to that four 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: men list and it is Josh Hannay, Jason Royles, Dean 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: Young and the current interim head coach Trent Barrett are. 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: Still remain in the running. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: But ultimately the board want to leave the room tonight 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: guys with a decision made on who their next coach 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: will be. Now from there the next step will be 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: Ultimately they don't want to take the shine or the 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: preparation away from the current playing group ahead of this 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: game against South Sydney, and therefore they're going to try 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: and keep it in house their decision. 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: That's rugby league guys. It's going to be hard until 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: after the game. 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: That's nearly impossible in our game. So they think it 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: won't get out. 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: Look, hey breath, I'll give them credit. They've done a 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: pretty good job. They've done a pretty good job so far. 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: I think it will impact they keeping quiet like they 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: do keep well. 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: To be fair, have we seen have we had one 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: photo of them meeting one of these teas they. 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: Were keeping it quite mate. This has been a disaster 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: like that. Brad Arthur was given an extension, told in 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: coach out the year if they had if if they 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: had made this decision last year, they should have made 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: the hard call then. 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 6: But then they leave the season start. 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 5: I think they make a choice to go for Bennett 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 5: when Bennett's already going to Sous. Then brad Arthur gets sacked. 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: This is dragged on for how long now a month 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: more and they're sitting in a board tonight hoping to 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: come up with a decision, and then they want to 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 5: keep it quiet they should be coming out and telling 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: people straight away the team's dead last on the ladder, well, 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: their equal last with the Tigers. This is a side 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 5: that would two years ago was in a Grand Final. 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: They've got a star studded roster. The way they've handled 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 5: this is a point. 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: If they managed to keep it quiet, which is going 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: to be tough in itself, is it really that big 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: of a deal for their preparation and do you think 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: it would impact their players that much if their players 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: knew tonight tomorrow. 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: Look, I don't think it would. I don't personally think 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: it would not. But that's the decision they're making. 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: Is that maybe because maybe because they're not going with 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: and Barrett and is their coach right now, it. 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: Could be this thing possibility. That's something I can really 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: think of. The real fair point, it's a fair point. 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: I will say this. The current list of candidates up, 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: they're pretty much even peggy as far as coaches are, 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: very much I'm going. 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: To say, is there any inkling here? Because we just 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: have no I have no idea who's going to be 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: the coach. 68 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: Look, to be fair, I don't think anyone really knows. 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Certainly know that we know that they're the best young 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: coaches on the on the market. 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: Jason rolls, Josh, we know they're going to be. 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: An errord coaches in the future, and as well, and 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: sorry Dane Young, of course. And and to say that 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: you're more confident of one over the other, I think 75 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: you're throwing you're throwing darts a little bit, and so. 76 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: They needed to do that, Dave, who you're landing on. 77 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: I'll go with Josh, And certainly there's a certainly I'm 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: not the only journal in town thinking that it's the case. 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Who are you picking cross? 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: Oh, look, I'd probably say Jason Rowles is the favorite 81 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: at the moment in my books, Like they're all obviously 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: good coaches. Dean Young is a really strong man that 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: looks like he's destined to be an NRL coach. Josh Hannay, 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: you've heard Billy Slayer talk about him. But role seems 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 5: to have the rules on the board at the minute. 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 7: Coaches get sacked all the time. Why don't they wait 87 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 7: if they don't know and there's no standout, right, obviously 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 7: there's no standard because the would have made the decision 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 7: by the end of the year. Do you reckon? There's 90 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 7: going to be another coach lose their job. They may 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 7: be in a better position than the current four. 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: Gord, you just can't wait that long. 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 7: Why can't you? Because they've got a coach now. 94 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: You need to move on your roster. You need to 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: think about recruitment. You need to think about the current staff. 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: We have a recruitment officer and all that which has 97 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: been tied to Brad Arthur for the past several seasons 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: the staff. But recruitment is key of contract. In twenty 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: twenty five is a whole heap of talented players, including 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: Clint Guffers and Blaze to Lungy Rig and Campbell Gillard. 101 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: They have a big turnover of players to focus on 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 3: and they need to get moving on a coach right now. 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: It casually comes in. They'll bring all their own staff, 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: yes as well? 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 7: Yes? 106 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: And how will that looks moving forward? 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: Is that so whoever's there now will be gone as well? 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: Look, it's contractual, so I don't know every individual contract 109 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: of the physio, the doctor and the assistant coach. 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 7: Now, wasn't that David Ross has heard at the Dragons 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 7: that he didn't have it? 112 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: Say, I've got no doubt the next head coach will 113 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: will bring his own staff in also a large element 114 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: of it. 115 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 7: For sure. 116 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: You're right, though, Dave, you're right they've they've got to 117 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 5: make a decision now because of what's unfolded. 118 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 6: But Gordon, you're also right. Why did they have to 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: pull the. 120 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 5: Trigger on Brad Arthur when they did, knowing that they 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 5: didn't have the man to take over, like they didn't 122 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: have a replacement. It's like the old saying in rugby 123 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: league you don't let a player go unless you've got 124 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 5: a better one to replace it, and that's what they've done. 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: All right, Chross, what do you have your thoughts been 126 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: on the collapse paramatter? 127 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 5: Well, like I said a moment ago, brath Like, they 128 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: were a red hot roster who were in a Grand 129 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: Final two years ago and at the moment they can't 130 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: make the eighth this year. They're on twelve competition points. 131 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 5: They'd have to win every game, every one of the 132 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 5: last remaining ten games to make the eight and they're 133 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 5: just not going to do it. And again you go 134 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 5: to the point what Brad Arthur was a very good 135 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 5: coach and if they had decided he was not the man, 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 5: they should have made this decision last year because it's 137 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: absolutely destroyed this season. And when he was sacked, Gufferson 138 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 5: and Moses were both out of the equation. They should 139 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 5: have given him a chance. 140 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 7: But if you looked at that pack, right they got 141 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 7: what Lane cart right hopgood Ballow and rig and Campbell, Gillough. 142 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 7: That's a fair pack. That's a fair pack club it is. 143 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 7: So if they dominated like New South Wales did, Moses 144 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 7: will get the job done. So the coaches are the 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 7: ones they get criticized. But you tell me one of 146 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 7: those fours that has lived up to his standard this. 147 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 6: Year, right, Gordian. That's why I say it what happened? 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 7: I always say it's not the coach's job for you 149 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 7: to pack your attitude on Sunday and walk into the 150 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: change room. I reckon, that's your job, and I feel 151 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 7: sorry for some of the coaches. 152 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Well, whoever the new coach for the paramatter is going 153 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: to have a big job, there's no doubt about that. 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: But they also have got a big job on their 155 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: hands making sure that Lomax arrives. 156 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: At the club. 157 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 7: Now. 158 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Buzz Rothfield. 159 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: Last night we had Dragon's coach Shane Flanagan and he 160 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: asked the question obviously Flannel shut it down. But is 161 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: this a realistic chance or is this just rubbish? 162 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it rubbish, bra I certainly believe there's 163 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: an element within Zach Lomax that believes that if he 164 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: had his time over again, he'd be staying at Saint Georgia. 165 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 8: Laura. 166 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Does he want to go to Paramatta. 167 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: Again? I think if he had his time over again, 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: and so they're. 169 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Not just so. 170 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is that there is some 171 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: true behind. 172 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Him not being convinced that he wants to be an eel. 173 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: A lot's changed since then, Braith, A lot's changed. Well, 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: Brad Arthur's no longer there the man that had him 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: over for a bar that I think he's Where's where 176 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: is he heading as a footballer? 177 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Not knowing? 178 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: Let's go down a little bit, Dave, because when he 179 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: met with Brad, apparently Brad was already sacked, but Brad 180 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: didn't know. So he met with Brad to talk about 181 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: his future at Paramatta. He liked Brad, wanted to be 182 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: coached by Brad, was told he's going to play in 183 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: the centers. But then Brad was sacked pretty much immediately 184 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks later, A couple of weeks later. 185 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: So straight away they've got off on the wrong foot 186 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: with him, haven't they. 187 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and and so your point. 188 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: We know that the overriding motivation for Zach to leave 189 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: Saints was that at the time he thought he was 190 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: a center and Brad was willing to give him that opportunity. 191 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: No promise is given guaranteed, but I will give you 192 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: that opportunity. A couple of weeks later, Brad sacked. So 193 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: the goalpost moves have moved on Zach in that regard, 194 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: which a big post. 195 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 7: And I think the headlines about Zach has probably changed 196 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 7: his attitude that I can have the same impact on 197 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 7: the game. Actually I have a better impact on the game. 198 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 7: Where in two or five he's become a world class 199 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 7: player on the wing, and put him in three. But 200 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 7: you're going to start on the wing and you're going 201 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 7: to play out wider. It takes away he's thinking and 202 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 7: he is so dangerous. Have looked the way he played 203 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 7: in the toughest arena in Melbourne on the wing. 204 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: The other key pointy here, guys, is that he's taken 205 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: less money to go to Paramatta of around about six 206 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty zero to go to Para. 207 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: I suppose to be question where from Paramoutnta fans is 208 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: ensign George Fans Illoria fans. Can he backfoot like is it? 209 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: Can he legally say no, I'm staying at the Dragons. 210 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, look sitting here right now, I find it highly unlikely. 211 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: And I just don't see where the wiggle room comes from. Braith, 212 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: and certainly from Paramatter's point of view, they say Zac's coming, 213 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: He's coming. We're in constant communication, we know he's coming. 214 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: But I almost liken it to the Isaiah Papali situation 215 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: when he moved from Paramatta and signed with the West Tigers. 216 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: Almost immediately, Isaiah. 217 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: Got cold feet about going to the Tigers and attempted 218 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: to spend the next two years trying to get out 219 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: of the Tigers and get back to Paramatter, of which 220 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: never eventuated. I feel as though this is similar Again, 221 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: if Zack had a way to stay at Saints, he would. 222 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: You know what? 223 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: This is an example too before Crawls, an example of 224 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: why they need to pick their coach, and pick the 225 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: coach soon so he can convince. 226 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: That I'll look after you. And this is the right 227 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: club for him to be. 228 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 5: It's such a shame though, isn't it, Because he agitated 229 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 5: to get out of the Dragons because he wasn't happy. 230 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: And now if this turns out to be true and 231 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: he's agitating, what does Zach stand for? Because he's turned 232 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: around his career on the field this year, like he'd 233 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: got on through a few troubled years where he was 234 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 5: allowing his poor discipline and his attitude to impact on 235 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: what we all know is a super talented player. But 236 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 5: he's also got his character to look after here. Like 237 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 5: you've got to stand for something. A contract has to 238 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: stand for something, The l has to stand for something 239 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 5: on this year. You had Ben Hunt last year and 240 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: we never heard the outcome of that investigation, mind you 241 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: from the NRL. 242 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 6: You know, there was all this talk something was going 243 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 6: to happen. Nothing ever happened. 244 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: And if you have another situation like that, where's the 245 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: fans stand? 246 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, but like you think it'd be an easy conversation 247 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: next time they're in origin camp, Mitchell moses, there's so 248 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 7: much downtime, has a chat and go, you know to try. 249 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 7: You scored him like in Melbourne and I'll give you five. 250 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: Of those albums. 251 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't think Zach has agitated as yet, 252 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: but I know there's a sentiment there that the things 253 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: have changed since he agreed to join the club. The 254 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: other point too, Josh Hanodine, Young, Trent Barrett and Jason Rowls, 255 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 3: you seriously think they're going to move him from the 256 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: wing the way he's playing, Why would you? 257 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 4: Why would you? 258 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: So that could be a problem straight away. 259 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, if his ambition still is to play center. 260 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: No coach is moving one of the best centers in 261 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: the best wingers in the game from the wing. 262 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, we said a number of times here, Paramatta have 263 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: got the roster. 264 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: So I think if you're Zach and you're looking, it's 265 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: not the you know, it's not the beat and the 266 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: end or all the end of the world winds you 267 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: with the players that they do have there that he's 268 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: stepping into, and the players he'll be playing with now. 269 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: Queensland legend Kevin. 270 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: Smith has called for six agains to be scrapped, just 271 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: days after several high profile coaches voiced their frustration at 272 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: the inconsistency around the rule. 273 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 9: No one knows, there's actually no accountability it's so crucial 274 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 9: with the timing, and when these referees decide to give 275 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 9: these these set restarts, I just think we need to 276 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 9: scrap them. Then it puts back the emphasis on the 277 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 9: referee blow a penalty for dead set penalties. 278 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Smith calling for Thennerell to get rid of 279 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: the set restarts. We've been talking about this the last 280 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: couple of nights Scored. You were pretty vocal on it 281 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: after State of Origin to some pretty high profile coaches 282 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: have been disappointed in the way that this has been 283 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: handled the past few months. 284 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: I would say, how do you guys see this? 285 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: Well, look, you've. 286 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: Got one Australian captain another former Australian captain who both 287 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: don't understand the rule. You've got Ricky Stewart speaking on 288 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 5: it on the weekend. You've got Craig Fitzgibbon like. You 289 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 5: can put that down to two losing coaches, but everyone 290 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 5: in the game. When you watch a game of footing 291 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: now you don't know when they're coming and why they 292 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: don't come the next time, and they come in a 293 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: run and it can completely change the momentum of the game, 294 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: and that's why it's so unfair. 295 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 6: When this rule came in, I thought it. 296 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 5: Was one of the greatest innovations in the game's history 297 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 5: because we had the problem with the wrestle and almost 298 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: overnight this changed it. But it's now become so confusing. 299 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: I truly think it's almost as big a blight on 300 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: the game as it was. 301 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: He said that they don't understand the rule. Is it not? 302 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: Do you not understand the rule or. 303 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 6: You don't understand when they're coming. It's so origin. 304 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: For instance, you got those two at the start of 305 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 5: the game, and then you don't get them and then 306 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: you think you see a team standing offside, or you 307 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 5: think you see the same infringement that doesn't happen. 308 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 6: That's hand on the ball. 309 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 7: That's my frustration. We can't go back to playing without 310 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 7: it because everybody challenged a referee, and Cameron was one 311 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 7: of the best, right of course, but I'm confused with 312 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 7: the rule and what it is, and rock infringement to 313 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 7: me sounds Rugby union ish and they don't know what 314 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 7: the rule is. I think our rules are simple, and 315 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 7: if the referee just said too long on the player, 316 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 7: the ball, offside, handing the ruck, whatever it is, we 317 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 7: can live with that. But the rock infringement, it's just 318 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 7: that grayness. It's the cloud around the decision. And I 319 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 7: reckon when you give a six again, it should be 320 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 7: a blatant penalty. It doesn't because it's not a fringe game. 321 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 7: It can change the momentum, which memori It's. 322 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: Games absolutely games. 323 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: Origin is a great example. 324 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Decide the game. 325 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: The Blues were on top. 326 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 6: Games decide well put it, put the nail in the 327 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 6: thirty four. I know that, mate. There's no question in 328 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: the world in Origin to six agains New South Wales. 329 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: What's happened here? 330 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: You two New South Welshman We've got Billy Slater, Gordon 331 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Tallis and Cameron Smith after losing Origin to all of 332 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: a sudden want the rules changed? No, I don't like 333 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: real change. Stories out of the cot here. 334 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 7: I don't want the real change. I want more clarification 335 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 7: around it. 336 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: But because. 337 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 5: Don't you ever watch a game with an honor face breaking? 338 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 5: You answer this, you don't watch your game. Sometimes you 339 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: see on the weekend you see a couple of six 340 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: agains and then and then you'll see hands in the 341 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 5: ruck all that sort of stuff on the ball, and 342 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: you don't think, how's that fair? Because it's the integrity 343 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 5: of the competition. Has to be fair. 344 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: And I'll back really happy. 345 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: Can't be perfect, right if you're game and the game. 346 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: In the last few years, crowds are up like twenty percent, 347 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: ratings are up, the products fantastic, the product our game 348 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: is blossoming. But all of a sudden, you know, what 349 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: are we going to do? I don't think it's just 350 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: let's scrap it, right, that's my point. My point is 351 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: we need more clarity around the around the rule, and 352 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: we need the referees to identify exactly what the infringement 353 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: is on so the fans, the coaches, players know exactly 354 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: what they that's it. I don't think it's defining as 355 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: many games as what people are saying, but. 356 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 7: If you're a coach, it can change the momentum. Like 357 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 7: and I do get the frustration of the gage. I'm 358 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 7: at the times we feel like we're at the wrong 359 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 7: end of everything, right, But like you do, and I'm 360 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 7: sure if I were sitting there in a coach's role 361 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 7: and that's your job, and then you get you know, Judge, 362 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 7: that's the answer. 363 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: That's what I want, is right? 364 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: Godage right, the bar has been set so high for fans, 365 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: and the coverage of the game, certainly by Fox League, 366 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: and the way we are taken into the game. We 367 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: listen to the video referee making live decie, we have 368 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: referees miked up. 369 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: We know exactly what's happening in the game. Except for 370 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 4: that we don't know. 371 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: So how do we fix it? Though we can argue 372 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: all night or talk about it. 373 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: Declare that's the problem, Brak, It's really hard to fix 374 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 5: unless the referees were to clamp down on every indiscretion 375 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: they saw, which would make it fair. But that's the 376 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 5: problem at the moment as I see it. And I 377 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: love rugby League and I love this rule when it 378 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: came in, But at the moment you feel that there's 379 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: periods of the game where they just make a decision 380 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: not to push forward with the six again. So I 381 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 5: don't know why, but it certainly comes across that way. 382 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: So it's got like a game. You go back to 383 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 5: the word consistency. Fairness is probably the better word. They've 384 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 5: got to find a way to make it. 385 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like possession is king and whoever controls the foot 386 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: of these days, it goes a long way to winning games. 387 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: I understand it I just think we're going to be 388 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: careful how we treat. 389 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: Viblize it when need to verbalize the decision. 390 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Don't listen to too many Queensland As YouTube with original 391 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: on Monday, Michael McGuire has told Maddy Johns he won't 392 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: be tempted to make changes to the winning side regardless 393 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: of who's available. 394 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 10: On the cusper returning in Nathan Cleary, who is the 395 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 10: best playmaker in the game, arguably the best player in 396 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 10: the game, if it was to come back and be 397 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 10: ten out of ten, is there any place for him 398 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 10: in the squad. 399 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 8: I've had a lot of discussions with nath He says, 400 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 8: you don't change what's working, having mentioned Jerome or Bood 401 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 8: touch Wood that they all get through. 402 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: We're building something very strong amongst that spoil and. 403 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 10: So Tommy, is there any thought of him of maybe 404 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 10: getting a bench spot. 405 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 8: I've got to get through this next weekend's games, so 406 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 8: that's the first thing. But as I said, I'm pretty 407 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 8: really confident with the group that I've got. 408 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: Great work there for Maddy Johns interviewing Michael McGuire. You 409 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: can catch that after Erroll three sixty. 410 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Tonight one on one and. 411 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: Getting a lot of intel from the new South Wales 412 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: coach that no one else has really got there from Maddy, 413 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: so he's saying that, Really it looks like regardless of 414 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: whether Cleary and Cheboyevitch are fit or not, he's going 415 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: to stick. 416 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: With That makes sense, It certainly makes sense. 417 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: How can you How can he make changes after such 418 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: a significant and historic win down in Melbourne? Only injuries 419 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: and suspensions now is what Madge is waiting for and 420 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: fingers crossed that doesn't unfold. I can't see why he 421 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: would make a single change. 422 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: The problem is too Nathan and Moses are both they 423 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: want the ball in their hands first. You know, they're 424 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 5: the chief playmaker and people have spoken about the fact 425 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: that they may struggle to play together. So Moses is 426 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: coming off a man of the match performance you couldn't change. 427 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: And it's the same with Turbo. 428 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: Like Stephen Crichton Latrelle were both outstanding in that game 429 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 5: and Turbo's coming back from injury, you just couldn't change it. 430 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: Bradman best, if anyone it was to get injured would 431 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: have to be. 432 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: The only thing I would have considered is if Cleary 433 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: was it was fit and played this weekend at fourteen even, 434 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, just to have him there off the bench 435 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: in Connor Rotson kind of Watson's role could have played 436 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: a number of positions if one of the half scars down. 437 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: You know, That's what I would have considered, but not 438 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: really anything else. I think, Yeah, Madge has been loyal. 439 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: You know he can't he can't change that team. He 440 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: cannot change that game. 441 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: To a team, can you. Well why am I asking you? 442 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 7: Well? Both decisions would have been right, right. I think 443 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 7: it's right to stick with the seven in because of 444 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 7: how dominant. I think it's one of the most dominant performances. 445 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 7: But if you bring in Nathan Cleary, let me just say, 446 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 7: if that's Andrew Johns, if that's Wally Laws, if that's 447 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 7: first and they come back and no matter sad part is, 448 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 7: no matter how good the seven played, they come back 449 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 7: in Darren Lockyer or Billy Slater, they come back in. 450 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 7: But but the how dominant was igon if it was 451 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 7: twenty two eighteen, if the scoreline makes that decision, the 452 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 7: school line makes a decision. 453 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: Not the win, I think, and again I hate saying it, 454 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: but if Cleary had dominated at origin level, like you said, 455 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: Wally Lewis, you know RFI Joey first and Kron then 456 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: he does stroll back in and that's no. 457 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: Slide on Nathan. 458 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: But he hasn't quite nailed Origin yet, so he's not 459 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: quite at that level at Origin. So I think it's 460 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: a bit different now. Fell Holmes is, Yeah, they've got 461 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: more problems. They've got massive He's more problems than the Blues. 462 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: While we're talking about the Blues, we should be talking 463 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: about that Queensland side that is panicking. They're panicking, panicking, 464 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: come on, keep going. 465 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Valentine Holmes, look, as far as I'm concerned, 466 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: I think he's the man most under pressure in the 467 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: outside backs for Queensland, largely largely due to the fact 468 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: that shutting down Latrell is the number one focus for Queensland. 469 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: Now do they. 470 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: Go down and experienced path and and someone who's going 471 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: to stand up for themselves and maybe pushback against Latrell, 472 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: bully Latrell in Dane Gagawa we know he's performed on 473 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: that stage before. Certainly he is in the discussion and 474 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: the other one is Selwyn Cobbo. It may it may 475 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: be a complete revamp of both going both gay guy 476 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: and Corbot with the injury to Xavier Coats. 477 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: And Billy's showing he's not afraid to make a tough 478 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: call Gordy, so you wouldn't be shocked if he made a. 479 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Call of that, would you know? 480 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 7: And gay guys never let Queensland down. But I just 481 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 7: teach something. Latrell with that much go for, with that 482 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 7: much good board, no one stops him in the game. 483 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 7: I don't care who marks him in the game in 484 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 7: any era right. So Queensland's issue is not letting them 485 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: camp down there and set up camp. But Latrell was 486 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 7: absolutely outstanding. Gay guy has never let us down before. 487 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 7: I think Cobby comes back in no matter what for Coats. 488 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 7: But it's a big it's a big job, and I 489 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: would And there's part of me that says, well, do 490 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 7: you want another crack? There's part of me that goes 491 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 7: like it because Vell he had a tough night, but 492 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 7: he had Angus Crichton there too, beating him up as Welluse. 493 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Do you think Origin three could explode given how dominant 494 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: New South Wales were and they did bully Queensland, do 495 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: you think the three could be pretty fiery? 496 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 5: I think the the line in the sand was drawn 497 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: in game one when Suali was sent from the field 498 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 5: for the tackle on Walsh. Then in game two the 499 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 5: rules were thrown out the window. You had the trill 500 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: hit who was it? Was it Coat's high in a 501 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 5: tackle probably should have been a sin bin through to 502 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: the keeper. You had Liam Martin lift up? Was it yeah, Cotter, No, 503 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: no sin bin. Queensland were bullied or game the gaudy. 504 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 5: They would have to be embarrassed at the way that 505 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 5: they were manhandled and they didn't respond. 506 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 7: It did when Daly, she even stood up and pushed Crichton. 507 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 7: He needed to do that in the. 508 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 6: First half and so that's what has to say. 509 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 7: To me that series was it took me back to 510 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 7: ninety one when Mark Guyer just got open rain and 511 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 7: he went maden Wally Lewis had to front him. I 512 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 7: think Daly turned into another captain that night and he 513 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 7: realized what queens they needed. But it was too late. 514 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 7: It was way too late, and Queens they needed to 515 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 7: stand up for themselves. Absolutely, Walsh got's pushed here. I 516 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: didn't like it, but so bad, but no one help him. 517 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. What happened next time. They will 518 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: come from everywhere and because they're playing at sun Corps. 519 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 5: But that's what everyone for their own back on this, 520 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 5: because they will come from it. 521 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: You're down and absolutely Gordon, you're down and enforcer and 522 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: you know it. There's no there's no bully, there's no 523 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: menace in that back, no fleggler. He would have been 524 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: the man. And so who's going to stand up this time? 525 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 7: Well, they've got to be there. What's wrong with our front? 526 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 7: What's wrong with Lindsay Colds, what's wrong with car We 527 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 7: did have KAFUSI let me tell you he is an enforcer. 528 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 7: Suer looks like one. Right they have to protect, right, 529 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 7: your forward pack has to protect the little guys. And 530 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 7: it didn't happen. 531 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: It is a different world at sun Corps Stadium. And 532 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: they keeps saying that. I'm going to keep saying until 533 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: the game because I think get ahead of ourselves here. 534 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 7: I just you're not ahead of yourself. 535 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: She got I've seen it all before. 536 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: Chad Townsend apparently he looks to be set aside a 537 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: one year deal with the chalks with the Sydney Roosters. 538 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: Now this has come to a little bit of a 539 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: shock to me today. How do you guys see this? 540 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 7: Now you're a half with a lack of halves? Is 541 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 7: that a good decision for an experience half? With Sam 542 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 7: Walker still learning his craft's he probably can run the 543 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 7: team himself, but just to have someone there in and 544 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 7: around the squad, you know. 545 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: I think it right price cardy for me, it all 546 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: comes down to that they're losing Luke Keary. 547 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Sam Walker is doing a magnificent job. You know, we 548 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: know how he plays. 549 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: He plays off the cuff, what he sees in front 550 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: of him, which makes him so special and why he's 551 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: playing so well, because that is what the half should 552 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: be doing. 553 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 7: In the Monroos. You have many really good young kids coming. 554 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: They do have a couple of young kids coming through. 555 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: But I think they're worried Satting Smith of courses there 556 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: as well, But I think they're just worried about they 557 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: wanted to stop gap for one year year, whether they're 558 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: just waiting for these young guns to blossom or they've 559 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: got someone in mine for twenty twenty six. Because they 560 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: went for Sean Johnson for that one year deal as well, 561 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: he knocked. 562 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 7: It back and then comes off in twenty twenty six. 563 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: It's something we all need to think about. But I 564 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: feel like they must have someone in mine for twenty 565 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: twenty six. 566 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure of it. 567 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 9: You know. 568 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got some young guns there, but will they 569 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: be ready to win a premiership in two years? 570 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 5: Things turned so quickly, don't they. Like two years ago, 571 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: who was Ezra Man? You know what I mean? Like 572 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 5: it can happen. They had the young fellow that was 573 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 5: the new South Wales five to eight in the nineteens, 574 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: Jake Elliott sand and Smith. Sam Walker's twenty two years 575 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 5: of age and getting better. Townshend's a strange one unless 576 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 5: they've just bought him as a security in case someone 577 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: gets injured exactly. 578 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: That's it's a pretty smart movie. 579 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: Who knows that, you know, if you're paying you know, 580 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: limited money. 581 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: Fours around to eighty three hundred, you know. 582 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: For a half a guy's won a premiership? 583 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 7: That fifth pretty good value? Seven fifth do the three hundred. 584 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chad knows he's going there, not as the main man. 585 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: He knows that, and it is it's a it's a 586 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: baton support role for these young halves coming through. But 587 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: to your point, Brak, you know, the main focus for 588 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 3: the roosters has to be to resign Sam Walker. 589 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, can I just ask will the NRL market is there? Like, 590 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 7: well they register that seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars 591 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 7: player going down to three hundred or two hundred. Well, look, 592 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 7: I'm just asking the question. Thirty four years of ages doesn't. 593 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 7: So was Adam Reynolds. So was Dr Evans. 594 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 6: Thirty or thirty one when he saw. 595 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: So let's say if Daly Cherry Evans comes off on 596 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 7: a million dollars, the Titans can go signing for two fifty. 597 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 7: That's just what he say. 598 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: This right, How many clubs were clamoring to sign Chad 599 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: Town's in. 600 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 7: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying but that's the point. 601 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: That's why he can a little bit of value. 602 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 7: I'll do the NRL value different to I don't know 603 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 7: the rules. I'm only just asking the question. 604 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: You know the rules better? I got back to I 605 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 6: gave that to Brace point two. And this is the roosters. 606 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 5: You know, like a couple of months ago they were 607 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 5: prepared to move on Angers kriton, to bring in David 608 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 5: for feeder. They would have someone in mind, they'd be 609 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 5: searching for it. 610 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: No one here I am. 611 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: If I'm coming now here, I am. 612 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: Look, Dylan Brown has options galaw in his contract, which 613 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: is why this decision for the paramount to a point 614 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: their head coach is never more important. 615 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: I've touched on it earlier. 616 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: They're players off contract for twenty twenty five is significant 617 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: at the Eels. Yet Dylan is contracted till twenty nine 618 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: with options each year to get out. 619 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: Now I don't see him in Walker tell whatsoever. But 620 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: he's an absolute gun. 621 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: They're both gun, but I don't actually see them. They're 622 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: very similar style of player. Yeah, I'm not saying it 623 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't work, but that's interesting. 624 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 7: I don't know. 625 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: You never know with the roosters, who knows they'd have 626 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: their eye on someone new club. Well, we're going to 627 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: be onto something else. 628 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: Now let's take a look at the hins and now 629 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: it's around eighteen or thanks to the tab as we 630 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: can see he Harry Grant to be rested for a 631 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: second week. 632 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Interesting one that one hasn't played since origin. 633 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: Tom Traboyevitch returns finally for the mainly Seagulls from that 634 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: hamstring injury. Marnted to miss four to six weeks with 635 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: that fractured hand, Ponger returns from Round seven foot injury, 636 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: and Marshall King expected to miss six to eight weeks 637 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: with his foot injury. But the interesting one there, Tom 638 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: Chaboyevitch to play in the centers for the mainly. 639 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Seagulls this week. You liked it? 640 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 7: I love yeah, I love it. I just think with 641 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 7: the pressure and everybody wanted fullback money, I think Tom 642 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 7: and the centers. I think as long as Devity with 643 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 7: his career. 644 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: It's dangerous for his salary kept though Goody to be 645 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: playing in excess. 646 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 7: We're talking salary, yeah, yeah. 647 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: Well, let's just say this Turbo is not on three 648 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. He's on excess of a million dollars. 649 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 7: But I think he can have an impact in the 650 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 7: center centers as well. 651 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: I've got no doubt Camp the balance of your salary 652 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: cap and your roster to be paying a million dollars 653 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: for your center. 654 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 7: You don't always have to pay a million dollars for 655 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 7: your fullback, right. You pay a million dollars for the 656 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 7: million dollar fullback, right. And if he's a million dollar center, 657 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 7: you pay a million dollars for a million dollar center. 658 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: Right. 659 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 7: We've just got hung up in Oh he's a halfback, 660 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 7: he's a million or he's a front row. They're not 661 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 7: that you pay a million dollars for. Like it was 662 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 7: Glenn and Lazos, it was Ricky shild and Ala Langer. 663 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 7: Not every halfback got half back money. 664 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so long as mainly believed that can be successful 665 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: with a three hundred thousand dollars. 666 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 5: For the fact of the matter is though that Turbo 667 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: does have a long term deal. He is signed to 668 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: the club on that money and they've got to find 669 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: a way to get him on the field. Like he 670 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 5: hasn't played a full season since I think it was 671 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 5: was a two thousand and eighty. I think in twenty 672 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 5: one or his Dally M year he might have played eighteen. 673 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: He's averaged about a dozen games the last few years. 674 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: They've just got to get him on the field. 675 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 7: I have no doubt he could play the Joey Marny 676 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 7: roll and just roam wherever he wants and pop up 677 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 7: like and be certain parts of the field. He'll be 678 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 7: attacking through the middle and going down to the troll 679 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 7: on he would sit. 680 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: I don't disagree he's one of the most dangerous footballers 681 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: that we've seen. But when you are balancing a roster 682 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: and you want a premiership winning roster, it is very 683 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: difficult to have a very strong balance side when you've 684 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: got a million dollar censer and at what And then 685 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: the next question is it comes at a cost because 686 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: other clubs will see, we'll hang on a sect that 687 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: center that they were playing there. He's not getting runs, 688 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: so one might have a crack at him, So there 689 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: will be a fallout in some regard. 690 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: You can't deny it. 691 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: Interesting watch this space, Tom Chaboy, bitch, thank you, Dave, 692 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: thank you. Crawls up next to the Players Perspective with 693 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: Willie Mason and James Graham, and following US Blues coach 694 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Michael McGuire on a special addition of the Many John's 695 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: Podcast