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Speaker 1: On Skylands Australia. This is the Reader Pane Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita panehe Show. I'm

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Speaker 2: Cali Marcus filling in for RITA coming up tonight. Andrew

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Speaker 2: Hasty threatens to quit the Liberal front bench if the

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Speaker 2: party does not drop its net zero promise.

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Speaker 3: Nick Kata will join me for that and more.

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Speaker 2: Shortly, celebrities use the Emmys to grandstand on Palestine, will

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Speaker 2: break down what happened with Michael Loftus and Kosher Garda

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Speaker 2: will give us the latest updates on Charlie Kirk's alleged killer.

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Speaker 2: Alex Stein pays tribute to his dear friend, and we'll

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Speaker 2: get his reaction to another shameful chant from Bob Billin

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Speaker 2: at a concert and Lefties pay the prize for celebrating

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Speaker 2: the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 4: Dead.

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Speaker 2: But let's begin tonight with more trouble for the Liberals. First,

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Speaker 2: it dumped rising conservative stares into nampajmpro Price from its

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Speaker 2: front bench after she refused to voice support for Opposition

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Speaker 2: leader Susan Lee. Now Susan Lee is facing a revolt

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Speaker 2: from Shadow Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasty, who has threatened

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Speaker 2: to quit the front bench if the Party doesn't drop

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Speaker 2: it's net zero pledge.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he told ABC Radio.

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Speaker 5: If Susan Lee, though supports net zero by twenty fifty,

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Speaker 5: where does that leave you?

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Speaker 1: That leaves me that a job.

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Speaker 5: I've mailed my colors to the mask Gary like, if

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Speaker 5: I go out with a tide in two and a

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Speaker 5: half years, that's great. My primary mission in politics is

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Speaker 5: to build a stronger, more secure, more competitive Australia. Energy

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Speaker 5: security is a vital input to that.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this is Menzies Research

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Speaker 2: Center Senior fellow Nick Cata.

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Speaker 3: Nick. Andrew Hasty is.

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Speaker 2: A politician, a rare one these days, who has conviction.

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that he will see through on this

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Speaker 2: threat if the coalition, if the Liberals don't develop an

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Speaker 2: energy policy that doesn't include these net zero targets that

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Speaker 2: they currently have in place.

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Speaker 3: What do you think Susan Lee and the others and

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Speaker 3: the Party are going to make of it?

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Speaker 6: Well, you're right, he has integrity and he has authenticity,

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Speaker 6: which is something you can't make up.

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Speaker 1: Right ajeez.

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Speaker 6: They will know that Andrew ac is the sort of

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Speaker 6: guy who will continue with this. He's a man of

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Speaker 6: deep faith. He just believes deeply that you shouldn't lie.

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Speaker 6: And I think at the center of actually his objection

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Speaker 6: to the net zero twenty fifty policy, it's the same

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Speaker 6: rejection I've got. We shouldn't be promising the electorate something

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Speaker 6: that we actually have no idea how to do. Chris

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Speaker 6: Bowen doesn't know how to do it. Nobody in the

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Speaker 6: world has any idea how to do it, because nobody's

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Speaker 6: got beyond first base on reducing a mission.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's great integrity.

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Speaker 6: The only thing I would caution though, is I don't

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Speaker 6: think if they get to the point where they're going

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Speaker 6: to put out in the zero, they have to have

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Speaker 6: another convincing story to tell, and they have to be

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Speaker 6: able to make an effective attack on Chris Bowen and

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Speaker 6: point out the obvious that the higher the target, the

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Speaker 6: higher electricity builds. It's just a locked in, baked in

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Speaker 6: law in this area. And we can explain if the

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Speaker 6: Liberals can explain that story, well, I think this could

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Speaker 6: be an election winner, but it's a big gamble.

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Speaker 2: Well, they certainly failed to do that at the last election.

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Speaker 2: That's why we saw such a disastrous result. Meanwhile, Climate

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Speaker 2: Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen has declared the Albanese

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Speaker 2: governments push for even more ambitious net zero targets will

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Speaker 2: give Australians pride and its level of ambition. Following the

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Speaker 2: release of the National Climate Risk Assessment, The alarmist report

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Speaker 2: claims there will be a four hundred percent rise in

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Speaker 2: heat related deaths in Sydney if temperatures increase by three

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Speaker 2: degrees above pre industrial levels. It also claims close to

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Speaker 2: three million jobs will be lost by twenty sixty one

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Speaker 2: because of heat waves, a six hundred billion dollar heat

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Speaker 2: to property values, it says by twenty fifty, and flooding

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Speaker 2: risks to areas inhabited by more than one and a

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Speaker 2: half million Australians.

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Speaker 3: Nick scary numbers, indeed.

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Speaker 2: But does the government's need zero pledge fill you with pride?

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 6: It fills you with fear, actually, caline, But doesn't this

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Speaker 6: just show the whole thing is just a virtue seating exercises.

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Speaker 6: We've said all along the object of this is to

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Speaker 6: make us have a warm in a glow and feel

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Speaker 6: good in ourselves because we can't see much else that

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Speaker 6: he's going to do it's certainly not going to make

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Speaker 6: a dent on the global emissions.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's just build the cap.

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Speaker 6: This is nothing but make us feel wonderful and good,

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Speaker 6: and that's crazy. That's no way to address public policy.

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Speaker 2: Well, people aren't going to be feeling very good when

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Speaker 2: they look at their electricity bills, and as I made

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Speaker 2: a dent in our impact on the environment, communications when

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Speaker 2: is to Anakin? Wells meanwhile, stood alongside EAY Safety Commissioner

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Speaker 2: Julie Inman Grant unveiling fresh details about the government's under

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Speaker 2: sixteen's social media ban, announcing tech titans must detect and

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Speaker 2: shut down children's accounts or risk fines of almost fifty

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Speaker 3: Here's the announcement this morning.

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Speaker 7: Government or digital idea can never be the sole or

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Speaker 7: final choice. There must always be alternatives. I believe that

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Speaker 7: over time facial age estimation, liveness tests and other forms

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Speaker 7: of aage assurance will become normalized.

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Speaker 2: Nick I've got to say is that the parent of

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Speaker 2: young kids, it does fill me with fear what harm

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Speaker 2: social media could do to them and the younger generation.

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Speaker 2: So I'm for this ban in principle, But do you

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Speaker 2: see the tech giants playing along with this.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's another question.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you fully that we should try and

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Speaker 6: protect children as best we can and harmful effects of

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Speaker 6: social media, but that's best done I think by parents,

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Speaker 6: and what I worry about this is just one of

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Speaker 6: those things. It's one of those bits where the government

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Speaker 6: doesn't get beyond first stage thinking. It thinks, well, we'll

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Speaker 6: do this, but it doesn't think through what the next

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Speaker 6: lot of consequences were You're going to be like, for instance,

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Speaker 6: the idea there's going to be facial recognition, there's going

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Speaker 6: to be a camera looking at us on our TV screens,

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Speaker 6: on our computer screens.

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Speaker 1: That fills me with horror.

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Speaker 6: Actually so no, I think it's one of those cases

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Speaker 6: where they're going to try something which is not going

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Speaker 6: to work. It's going to have all sorts of adverse

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Speaker 6: consequences and it won't achieve what it sets out to achieve,

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Speaker 6: which is the harm that you and I are both

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Speaker 3: But the parents, but parents.

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Speaker 2: I see your points about the potential consequences, But parents

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Speaker 2: have failed on this largely, haven't they. They don't seem

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Speaker 2: to have been able to rain in social media, or

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Speaker 2: perhaps they haven't understood fully the risks, So does it become.

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Speaker 6: The government's respond Sure, but I mean I agree that

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Speaker 6: parents don't pay enough attention to it. But one of

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Speaker 6: the obstacles to this is that the software companies Apple

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Speaker 6: Google have a whole lot of software which they could

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Speaker 6: make available so that parents can monitor their children's Internet

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Speaker 6: use much more effectively. They use it for employers, so

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Speaker 6: your employee can monitor your account better than you can,

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Speaker 6: as a parent, monitor your children's account, because that's the

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Speaker 6: way the software companies are set it up. And I

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Speaker 6: think we should be pushing them to act on that

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Speaker 6: as much as anything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, we'll see what happens with it all.

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Speaker 2: Victorian premieres Into Alan has said she will not be

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Speaker 2: deterred by the Albanesi government's international students cap pledging to

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Speaker 2: allow thousands more Chinese students into Victoria, even though one

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Speaker 2: in five foreign students in the state are already from China.

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Speaker 3: She made the announcement on the.

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Speaker 2: Second day of her trip to Beijing, where she has

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Speaker 2: also pitched Victoria's new China strategy to CCP leaders, with

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Speaker 2: a focus on education, agribusiness, tourism, medical technology, health research

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Speaker 2: and innovation. Nick, what do you make of the Victorian

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Speaker 2: premier seem to go out alone on this issue.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a big part of the Victorian economy. There's

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Speaker 6: not much going for it. I mean, it's the biggest

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Speaker 6: exports sector is education. But because it has all sorts

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Speaker 6: of adverse consequences for the rest of the population. You

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Speaker 6: know that students tend to concentrate in the CBD area,

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Speaker 6: particularly the north of the CBD area. You basically the

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Speaker 6: whole character of the place changes. Number One, we have

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Speaker 6: the housing issue, which with well canvas and I think

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Speaker 6: what we haven't addressed is the fact that these are

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Speaker 6: de facto employment visas for a lot of these students.

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Speaker 6: They're not really so much interested in the education as

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Speaker 6: getting a foot in the door here so that they

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Speaker 6: hope of getting permanent residency. It's not the way to

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Speaker 6: run an immigration policy. It's far too chaotic and demand

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Speaker 6: driven for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I suppose not to imply that this is

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Speaker 2: an issue with every foreign student or every student from China,

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Speaker 2: but there is a risk of spying or intervention from

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Speaker 2: the CCP when it comes to students as well. We've

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Speaker 2: seen in certain like the Confucius Institute and education spaces

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Speaker 1: It's become part of the business model of universities.

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Speaker 6: They rely on it, so they're really not looking at

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Speaker 6: this objectively. They have a self interest in bringing in

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Speaker 6: more students, whatever the consequences for security, whatever the consequences

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Speaker 6: for the rest of the Australian students there the way,

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Speaker 6: it changes the nature.

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Speaker 1: Of the university.

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Speaker 6: And of course they don't care about the housing situation.

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Speaker 6: That's not the university's business. So it's a university is

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Speaker 6: making money out of this, with all the bad consequences

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Speaker 6: pushed to other people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 2: Still in Victoria, it's been revealed more than thirteen hundred

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Speaker 2: weapons have now been surrendered in the first two weeks

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Speaker 2: of the state's machete amnesty program. Now that's on top

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Speaker 2: of the thirty four hundred surrendered by major retailers and

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Speaker 2: almost eleven thousands sees by police so far this year

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Speaker 2: after the state banned the weapons. Nick will this help

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Speaker 2: to solve the epidemic of violent crime.

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Speaker 3: They're big numbers, but it's terrific.

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Speaker 6: To see so many Victorians doing the right thing. But

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Speaker 6: the problem is your criminal population tend not to be

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Speaker 6: people who do the right thing. In fact, their whole

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Speaker 6: business model is not doing the right thing. So I

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Speaker 6: don't think this is going to make too much of

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Speaker 6: a dent, if a dent at all on the actual crime,

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Speaker 6: because these are people who carry out all sorts of

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Speaker 6: legal activities and possessing a machete is not going to

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Speaker 6: deter them.

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Speaker 1: What will deter them. We know what.

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Speaker 6: Works, tough policing, tough attitude from the courts, and if

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Speaker 6: necessarily increasing the size of the prisons, you want to

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Speaker 6: get crime off the streets, you put the criminals in prison.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if they're not going to use a machete,

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Speaker 2: as we've seen in other instances, they're going to use

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Speaker 2: different types of weapons. They can't take them all out,

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Speaker 2: but the magistrates keep letting them out on bail, and

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Speaker 2: we see it keep happening exactly.

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Speaker 6: I mean, thank goodness for John Howard's gun laws. That's

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Speaker 6: all I can say. I mean, I think the machetes,

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Speaker 6: they go to machetes because they can't get guns, and

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Speaker 6: machetes are not nearly as harmful of guns, So thank

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Speaker 6: goodness for that. But at this stage, it really comes

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Speaker 2: He can't protect his own office, his own staff, he

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Speaker 1: So good, honor.

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Speaker 2: I think that has proven to be true in many instances.

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Speaker 2: The stars of the small screen came together yesterday to

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Speaker 7: I just want to say, finally, go birds and free Palestine,

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Speaker 2: While her co star Megan Stoled her topped off a

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Speaker 3: All these the labs.

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Speaker 2: Seem to forget no one cares what their political views are.

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Speaker 2: In the immortal words of Ricky Gervais.

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Speaker 8: If you do win an award tonight, don't use it

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 8: You're in no position to lecture the public about anything.

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Speaker 1: You know nothing about the real world.

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Speaker 8: Most of you spend less time in school than Greta Thumburg.

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Speaker 9: So if you win, right, come up.

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Speaker 10: Except you lit an award, thank your agent and your god.

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Speaker 2: thank you for your time. What was your take on

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's.

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Speaker 11: First of all, it's it's amusing that they even exist, right, Like,

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Speaker 11: the lights are on tonight. Somebody's in there like none

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Speaker 11: of this, None of this matters these people.

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Speaker 1: It's like watching five.

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Speaker 11: Year olds in their first like organized soccer game. They

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Speaker 11: they're doing is like with their little political, poorly thought

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't get it, because why polarize and

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Speaker 3: It puts me off.

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Speaker 2: It makes me not want to watch their films, their

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Speaker 2: TV shows, And I honestly don't care what their personal

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Speaker 2: used his turn on the Red Carpet No not to

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Speaker 7: And what we asked for is for commercial diplomatic blockade

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Speaker 2: I mean, no one cares, Michael, You're on the Red

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Speaker 2: carpet to talk about what you're wearing, promote your your show,

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Speaker 2: and then get off.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and and and huh if you're gonna protest, put

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Speaker 11: some thought like there's a there's this politician in the States,

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Speaker 11: Alexandria Okazio Cortes, and she wore a dress and it

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Speaker 11: said tax the rich right across her booty. Right now,

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Speaker 11: that's a protest. Have you are bardam? He just like

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Speaker 11: throws a scarf on and we're gonna take him seriously. No,

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Speaker 11: it's like the it's like the girl with the post

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Speaker 11: that note on her purse. Really, that's that's the best

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Speaker 11: you could do. Give it more than two minutes of thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such an afterthought that the giant posted.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what she was thinking, But look, I.

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Speaker 3: Will give credit.

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Speaker 2: There was one celebrity to buck this anti Israel trend.

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Speaker 2: That was a Jewish influencer, Emily Austin. I hadn't really

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Speaker 2: heard of her before she carried a sea through purse

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Speaker 2: being courageous by standing up and talking about it. I

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Speaker 3: But look, that's my view. Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Now to anti Trump author Stephen King, whose latest movie,

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Speaker 2: The Long Walk is officially a box office flop.

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Speaker 3: The adaptation has.

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Speaker 2: Recorded the lowest opening for a Stephen King movie in

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Speaker 2: thirty three years, coming in fourth in its opening weekend. Now,

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Speaker 2: this cinematic bombing comes days after King received massive backlash

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Speaker 2: for falsely claiming that Charlie Kirk had advocated stoning.

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Speaker 3: Gaze to death. He later apologized and deleted that tweet.

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Speaker 3: But Michael, this new film.

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Speaker 2: It has received good reviews from critics, and there was

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Speaker 3: I read. Do you think the political.

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Speaker 2: Backlash to Stephen King's comments led to people not wanting

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Speaker 2: to go and buy tickets?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, There's very little reason to to run out to

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Speaker 11: And then when he does such a horrible he takes

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Speaker 11: this quote out of context by Charlie Kirk like days

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Speaker 11: just called this movie Stephen King walking around the Titanic

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Speaker 11: poking holes in it as the water comes on board.

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Speaker 11: It was just about he came in fourth place. So

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Speaker 11: I think Dalton Abbey people would rather watch a movie

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Speaker 2: He Is he is starring in his own horror short

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Speaker 2: has gone quite off the rail.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a.

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Speaker 2: perhaps not completely unexpected that he would have gone in

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Speaker 11: He put out a he put out a video promoting

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Speaker 11: the movie. He was just talking into his phone that

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Speaker 11: was scarier than anything he's written in the past twenty years.

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Speaker 11: Stephen King's next movie should has been Stephen King Stands in.

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Speaker 1: Front of You.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe that would have more people come to watch it,

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Speaker 2: but I doubt it very much.

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Speaker 3: Michael Loft is such a pleasure to chat. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: Left He's Losing It.

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Speaker 2: Plus the latest updates on Charlie Kirk's alleged killer. Kosha

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Speaker 2: He's Losing It. Hundreds of violence apologists have now faced

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Speaker 2: the professional consequences of celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. US teachers, doctors,

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Speaker 2: and pilots have all been sacked, suspended, or had their

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Speaker 12: You hol me dead, you dead, you holp me dead.

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Speaker 2: But it's a case of, as the kids sayf around

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Speaker 2: and find out. Texan Governor Greg Abbott later tweeting the

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Speaker 2: woman had been expelled from her college. Meanwhile, best selling

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Speaker 7: Shucker, the shooter was a cis white man from a

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Speaker 2: Seriously, Jody, maybe stick to the fiction in your airport novels. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: XCNN host Don Lemon was trying his best to get

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Speaker 1: What do you think would happened to Charlie Kirk?

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Speaker 13: It's just messed up, totally messed up.

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Speaker 8: You know, that was messed up like nobody deserved that

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Speaker 13: He was a good guy.

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Speaker 1: You think he was a good guy.

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Speaker 8: I think he was, even though he says things that

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Speaker 13: That's I can't judg him for that.

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Speaker 2: And Lefty's favorite joy Read posted this bizarre video in

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Speaker 1: And a fascis forced.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, what hope is there for young people when

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Speaker 13: I have the news of her day.

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Speaker 3: Is no, no, no, no, no, nobody died, my best

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Speaker 2: We blurred those kids' faces because I'd hope those girls

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Speaker 2: grow up to regret being taught to say things like that.

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Speaker 14: I've opened X to a bunch of little crying and

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Speaker 14: sick of this idea that you can't meet violence with violence.

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Speaker 14: If somebody was smacking you in the face, in the

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Speaker 14: corner of a room, over and over. You're going to

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Speaker 14: hit them back.

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Speaker 3: You have to go not getting out of that unless

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Speaker 3: you do.

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Speaker 2: The lunacy shows no signs of abating. Now to the

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Speaker 2: latest on the investigation into Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, twenty

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Speaker 2: two year old Tyler Robinson. The FBI has revealed it's

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Speaker 2: found the suspects DNA on the roof where the fatal

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Speaker 2: shot was allegedly fired from, and they've also discovered what

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Speaker 2: appears to be a confession made by the accused in

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Speaker 2: an online group chat where he wrote, Hey guys, I

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Speaker 2: have bad news for you all.

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Speaker 3: It was me at UVU yesterday. Sorry for all of this.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this is Guyanese contributor

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Speaker 2: Kosher Gada Kosher Great.

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Speaker 3: To see you in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: It would seem investigators are compiling some pretty compelling evidence

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Speaker 2: against Tyler Robinson here. What do you make of these

463
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Speaker 2: latest developments?

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Speaker 12: Definitely they're building a case, clearly, the criminal case. Many

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Speaker 12: people want the death penalty st which is on the

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Speaker 12: books in Utah as well as federally. If they're able

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Speaker 12: to bring a federal charge, which is still unclear. I

468
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Speaker 12: think what's more interesting from these charts is who else

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Speaker 12: was maybe an accomplice or an accessory or fomenting this

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Speaker 12: kind of attitude. And the reason for that is now

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Speaker 12: the president of the vice president, multiple people have signaled

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Speaker 12: that this is actually an organized domestic terror group possibly

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Speaker 12: where there's people agitators out there funding it, potentially grooming

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Speaker 12: people or getting them motivated in these chat servers and

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Speaker 12: other places. And is there a case to try and

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Speaker 12: break that down the way you would a criminal enterprise

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Speaker 12: like the mafia back in the day. So I think

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Speaker 12: that's another thread that they're looking at that who are

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Speaker 12: these other people he's confessing to, What do they know,

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Speaker 12: when did they know it? What role have they played

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Speaker 12: in addition to him the person who actually pulled the trigger.

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Speaker 12: So I think a lot more to come on this,

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Speaker 12: And if it spans wider and farther than just the

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Speaker 12: one person who pulled the trigger, that I think is

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Speaker 12: a pretty consequential outcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, frightening to consider that there could have been others

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Speaker 2: who were supporting him and helping to fund this. We're

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Speaker 2: also learning more about his transgender roommate and boyfriend, Tyler

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Speaker 2: Robinson's room boyfriend, that is a man who was transitioning

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Speaker 2: to become a woman. One of his family members told

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Speaker 2: Fox News that he hates Conservatives and Christians and that

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Speaker 2: he hated his family. He was not raised that way,

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Speaker 2: but he over the years has become really detached, being radicalized.

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Speaker 2: He has obviously gotten progressively worse the last year or two,

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Speaker 2: said the relative, adding he's always very angry. Now, this

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Speaker 2: is all these comments are about the boyfriend, who we've

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Speaker 2: seen in reports has been cooperating with the FBI, unlike

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Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson. What are your thoughts on these comments from

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Speaker 2: a family member.

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Speaker 13: It's so interesting.

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Speaker 12: I feel like we're only scratching the surface with this,

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Speaker 12: and there are so many sensational details emerging. The fact

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Speaker 12: that first roll Tyler Robinson came from ostensibly a normal

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Speaker 12: and middle class, pretty conservative religious family and then went

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Speaker 12: off to college and completely went off the deep end.

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Speaker 12: Then it emerges he's in a romantic relationship with his

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Speaker 12: roommate who's a transsexual boyd trying to transition to female

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Speaker 12: and also furry, which is a whole other subculture.

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Speaker 3: We talk about that.

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Speaker 12: Yesterday on air The Rabbit High Rabbital I never wanted

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Speaker 12: to go down, and unfortunately I did, so you don't

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Speaker 12: have to thank you.

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Speaker 13: So that's a whole other thing, and.

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Speaker 3: Don't google for it.

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Speaker 12: It just shows, you know, how weird this whole thing

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Speaker 12: is and sad and dangerous obviously, And then the fact

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Speaker 12: that the roommate is cooperating to me, I don't know,

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Speaker 12: but I would pause it that it's for self preservation purposes,

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Speaker 12: because if again he knew anything or was an accomplice

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Speaker 12: of murder, then he potentially is in legal jeopardy as well.

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Speaker 12: And maybe there's some sort of community deal or other

522
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Speaker 12: things happening behind the scenes. I'm sure we'll find out,

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Speaker 12: but this is just going from bizarre to more bizarre.

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Speaker 12: And the juxtaposition against Charlie, this clean cut, all American

525
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Speaker 12: Christian young man, married, beautiful wife, beautiful kids, and then

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Speaker 12: these guys just look more and more bizarre on the

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Speaker 12: other side. That is what I think the whole world

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Speaker 12: is seeing, and it's really awakening something I think in

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Speaker 12: people globally. That's beyond what I think anybody even expected.

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Speaker 2: But as you pointed out, how did he go from

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Speaker 2: this seemingly normal upbringing in a conservative religious family to

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Speaker 2: far left ideology, at least that's what we're hearing and

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Speaker 2: official sources. So it is fascinating to every parent's nightmare,

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Speaker 2: worst name or how does that happen? I think parents

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Speaker 2: are cross American around the world are really scared and

536
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Speaker 2: wondering how can this happen and how can you avoid it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. US Vice President J. D.

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Speaker 2: Vance meanwhile, has paid tribute to his late friend Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 2: hosting a two hour memorial broadcast of The Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: Show live from the White House.

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Speaker 3: Here's some of what he had to say.

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Speaker 9: The entire administration is trying to do as much as

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Speaker 9: possible to find everything that we can about what led

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Speaker 9: to this, about how we got here, and of course

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Speaker 9: ultimately how it assassin took Charlie's life. I wanted to

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Speaker 9: zoom out with Steven a little bit and talk about

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Speaker 9: all of the ways that we're trying to figure out

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Speaker 9: how to prevent this festering violence that you see on

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Speaker 9: the far left from becoming even more and more mainstream.

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Speaker 2: And Vance also announced the Trump administration is preparing to

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Speaker 2: unleash on non government organizations, left wing activists, and domestic

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Speaker 2: terrorist networks. Advocating violence against conservatives Kosher.

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Speaker 3: He didn't help back in this.

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Speaker 13: He didn't.

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Speaker 12: And that's what we were talking about earlier, that it's

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Speaker 12: more than just one person. Yes, one person pull the trigger,

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Speaker 12: but there's a whole pyramid, a structure underneath it, including

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Speaker 12: funding with the NGOs and others overtly, colbertly, these other

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Speaker 12: people who sort of at least narratively are in these

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Speaker 12: chat rooms and egging each other on, calling openly calling

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Speaker 12: for assassination of fellow Americans and all of that. He

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Speaker 12: gets it, Stephen Miller gets it. And they are laying

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Speaker 12: the groundwork and saying that they are going to treat

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Speaker 12: this as a domestic terrorist organization. It's happened before in history,

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Speaker 12: like the Weather Underground in nineteen seventies. Obviously, the mafia

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Speaker 12: was a different thing. So there is a precedent for

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Speaker 12: going after domestic terrorist organizations, and it starts with classifying

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Speaker 12: them as such Antifa and everything else, and then actually

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Speaker 12: methodically using the resources of the government trying to dismantle

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Speaker 12: it and hold people accountable. So if that happens, that

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Speaker 12: is one silver lining I think from this very tragic story.

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Speaker 2: You cannot imagine that possibly happening under a Barden administration,

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't be going after these far life groups.

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Speaker 3: Now that is the case.

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Speaker 12: Many people have been sort of thinking about this alternate reality.

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Speaker 12: If Kamala Harris had won, and she came dangerously close

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Speaker 12: to winning. As we know, the election was a landslide,

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Speaker 12: but it was also close. These things can very quickly

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Speaker 12: go in a different direction. And had this happened to

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Speaker 12: Charlie Kirk under that administration, I think you'd see very different,

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Speaker 12: very different outcomes. So that's another I don't want to

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Speaker 12: call it a silver lining because it's such a horrible tragedy,

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Speaker 12: but one thing that could have been worse that I

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Speaker 12: think will be better.

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Speaker 2: Well, America's top diplomat, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, has

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Speaker 2: warned the United States will revoke the visas of people

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Speaker 2: who celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Here he is, well, we were.

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Speaker 1: Vote pieces of people.

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Speaker 15: I don't know we've revoked visas the people that is

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Speaker 15: in the country.

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Speaker 11: We've most certainly been denying pieces.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 15: I wanted you to think about this romomerapin you're out

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Speaker 15: there celebrating a fascination in both blood of someone and

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Speaker 15: then you want to come in. Why wouldn't want anybody

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Speaker 15: like that in our country as a tourist, as anything.

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Speaker 2: We don't want them here kosher? It seems like common

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Speaker 2: sense to me. Why, I mean, if you're accepting people

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Speaker 2: on character grounds, surely celebrating the assassination a political violence

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Speaker 2: of someone who is just speaking at an event on

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Speaker 2: a college campus shows that you are not a good

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Speaker 2: character if you're celebrating that.

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Speaker 13: And the point is, you're a guest.

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Speaker 12: You're a guest in the country, if you're on a visa,

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Speaker 12: even if you're on a green card, if you're a guest.

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Speaker 12: And many Americans, I certainly speak for myself, and many

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Speaker 12: of them support this, and they will say, get out.

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Speaker 13: If this is how you feel, get out. We don't

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Speaker 13: need you.

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Speaker 12: We have enough of our own problems and our own people,

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Speaker 12: many of whom have also been celebrating this, by the way,

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Speaker 12: and are getting fired. And that's a whole other sort

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Speaker 12: of current that's coming out from here, where people losing

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Speaker 12: their jobs for openly putting the stuff on social media.

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Speaker 12: But they're American citizens, So the greatest consequence is Okay,

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Speaker 12: you get fired or canceled potentially if you're a foreigner.

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Speaker 12: He has every right as Secretary of State to do that.

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Speaker 12: He did it for a couple of students on the

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Speaker 12: Columbia campus during the agitation that was happening there with

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Speaker 12: the Gaza and anti Israel protests for example.

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Speaker 13: It was controversial then as well.

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Speaker 12: The only argument that the other side makes that there's

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Speaker 12: some credibility to is is this a slippery slope where

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Speaker 12: an appointed cabinet person secretary is able to decide the grounds?

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Speaker 12: And okay, here it's common sense, but is it a

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Speaker 12: slippery slope that you have them willing nearly canceling visas?

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Speaker 12: But I think the counter point is if you're a

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Speaker 12: guest in a country, show some respect. And if I

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Speaker 12: were an immigrant or living in another country, like I

631
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Speaker 12: wouldn't dare say something like this about somebody in Australia

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Speaker 12: are as an example, as a guest here.

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Speaker 2: You would think you would think that would be just

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Speaker 2: widely appreciated by people. I mean, as you point out,

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Speaker 2: and as we've shown on this show, especially on lefties

636
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Speaker 2: losing it, and there are so many people who are

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Speaker 2: American citizens who are celebrating this, so many on the left,

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Speaker 2: which is so.

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Speaker 3: Awful to see. Some are saying, well, this is free speech,

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't be getting canceled. But I didn't think it's

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Speaker 3: being canceled.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to prison for it, right, But there

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Speaker 2: are consequences, yes, professionally, especially absolutely, the.

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Speaker 12: People crying for free speech didn't cry about it in

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty when there was a mass purge on the

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Speaker 12: other side for people who didn't want to use preferred

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Speaker 12: pronouns or they.

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Speaker 3: S thoughted it they started is a tool of the left.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, are questioning, you know, the efficacy of vaccines, are

650
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Speaker 12: not wanting to take the vaccine. People were in mass

651
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Speaker 12: numbers fired. This is just a little bit of that.

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Speaker 12: And free speech means, correct, you're not being imprisoned, free

653
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Speaker 12: your speech. They are free to post this vile hate

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Speaker 12: on Facebook, but there are consequences professionally. Free speech is

655
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Speaker 12: not guarantee employment protection basically, so that is happening.

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Speaker 13: Students have gotten expelled.

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Speaker 12: A lot of them are teachers and nurses, pilots, even

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Speaker 12: military members, which is shocked people because you're involved.

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Speaker 13: With the safety of other Americans.

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Speaker 12: And if a pilot, for example, is that hateful or

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Speaker 12: a kindergarten teacher, you're trusting your little one with.

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Speaker 13: Is that hateful? That's a big deal.

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Speaker 12: This is it's a big grassroots effort that's going out

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Speaker 12: there where people are calling up employers and telling them,

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Speaker 12: how do you stand by this employee of yours that

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Speaker 12: did this? And they're getting fired in a way that

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Speaker 12: five years ago I don't think would have happened. So

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Speaker 12: it feels like there's just been a shift in the

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Speaker 12: culture for the better.

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Speaker 2: There's certainly there's this boycott campaign out there, somewhat uncomfortable

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Speaker 2: with it sometimes, but.

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Speaker 3: At least people are revealing who they are.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Internet. We have the Internet to thank for.

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Speaker 2: We can see what people really stand for. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, he also warned that nations who recognize the

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Speaker 2: Palestinian state are dragging out the deadly Gaza war and

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Speaker 2: hurting the cause they think they are furthering. He made

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Speaker 2: the remarks during a visit to the Middle East, where

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Speaker 2: he's been meeting officials in Israel and Qatar. Koches some

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Speaker 2: pointed remarks here ahead of Anthony Albanize's un visit. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: our Prime minister has said we will recognize Palestine at

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Speaker 2: that visit. What do you think this will mean again

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Speaker 2: for the relations that we have with the US.

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Speaker 12: It's obviously not helpful if he hasn't even gotten a

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Speaker 12: meeting right now, and they're on different sides of this issue.

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Speaker 12: The US actually is a little bit kind of on

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Speaker 12: an island on this. A lot of European nations are

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Speaker 12: recognizing and the tide seems to be shifting away from

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Speaker 12: support for Israel in terms of the strength with which

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Speaker 12: it's been that way before, and the US kind of

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Speaker 12: is out there a little bit on their own. And

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Speaker 12: it doesn't come without a cost because the younger part

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Speaker 12: of the electorate even in the US is not actually

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Speaker 12: that supportive of this, and this is one area where

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Speaker 12: the Trump administration is maybe a little bit out of

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Speaker 12: step with the younger voters that came in, where not

697
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Speaker 12: that they're against Israel, but they just don't want the

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Speaker 12: US exerting or using its money, troops, or influence at

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Speaker 12: the UN know for it. But Trump has always been

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Speaker 12: very strong on this issue, as is the Secretary of State,

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Speaker 12: and they are very clear that that's their position. And

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Speaker 12: I do think that he's going to exert pressure on

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Speaker 12: other nations.

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Speaker 13: That are not in that camp.

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Speaker 12: Whether it's the NATO allies, whether it's possibly Australia over here,

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Speaker 12: and that is just I think, but we're going to

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Speaker 12: have to hash through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad they've stood firm in the face of

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Speaker 2: some of that maga protectionist But it's interesting to note though, Kocha,

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Speaker 2: that you know, the Arab States themselves have been stronger

712
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Speaker 2: than places like Australia and Europe and made places in

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Speaker 2: Europe and actually calling.

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Speaker 3: For hostages to be released. Yes, don't grow in that language.

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Speaker 13: That is interesting, That is ironic.

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Speaker 2: Look, Donald Trump has arrived in the UK for his

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Speaker 2: second state visit. He is set to hold trade talks

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Speaker 2: with British Prime Minister Kias Drama after being hosted by

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Speaker 2: King Charles at Windsday Castle. Kosher, I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of pomp and ceremonies on the cards here, But what

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Speaker 2: else can we expect on this because.

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Speaker 12: Definitely the pomp and ceremony, Milani is going to look

723
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Speaker 12: great as always, There'll be a lot of fashion journalism

724
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Speaker 12: coming out of it.

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Speaker 13: He meets the cool royals William and Kate as well.

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Speaker 12: Which does that for me when I look at that

727
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Speaker 12: the big picture is I just have to laugh that

728
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Speaker 12: Hitler is a bucking In Palace because that hitlarization that

729
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Speaker 12: they tried to do such a pattist and it's so funny,

730
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Speaker 12: like clearly none of them believed it because here he

731
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Speaker 12: is second state visit with the monarchy.

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Speaker 13: So that's just a broader point, I think.

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Speaker 11: One.

734
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Speaker 12: So the trade deal their biggest trade partners, and they'll

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Speaker 12: hash out those details.

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Speaker 13: And we've been through a little bit of the tariff.

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Speaker 12: Lever with the UK, but it got solved pretty quickly

738
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Speaker 12: and they got to framework pretty quickly. Another thing coming

739
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Speaker 12: out as visit is they're going to be signing some

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Speaker 12: kind of tech deal and I think the CEOs of

741
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Speaker 12: open Ai and Nvidia are joining him on that trip.

742
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Speaker 12: That one's interesting because jd Vance apparently played a role

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Speaker 12: in negotiating the framework around it. And there's this fight

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Speaker 12: where the UK is reportedly tightening the grip of censorship

745
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Speaker 12: a little bit, and one tool in that is demanding

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Speaker 12: that the US platforms take down certain posts and they

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Speaker 12: deem as disinformation. US platforms don't want to do that

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Speaker 12: because it's against the policy and our free speech and

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Speaker 12: England's to be honest heritage, and so I think that

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Speaker 12: was a big sticking point, and it looks like they've

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Speaker 12: negotiated something around that that we will not be doing

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Speaker 12: that unless it's something explicitly dangerous. If it's an opinion,

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Speaker 12: a dissenting opinion, we will not be taking it down.

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Speaker 12: Cannot find our companies global revenue on that. So I

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Speaker 12: think that's something potentially meaningful. If they've made some headway

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Speaker 12: towards there, that would be good.

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Speaker 3: Well, we will keep an eye on that one. Koshagada,

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Speaker 3: thank you for your time. Great to shout us voice.

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Speaker 13: Oh, it was a pleasure still to come.

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Speaker 2: A dear friend of Charlie Kirk's pace tribute Alex Stein.

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Speaker 3: Is up next.

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Speaker 2: We've been speaking about the ongoing reaction to the assassination

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Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk, and joining me now is someone who

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Speaker 2: knew him personally. Comedian and host of Primetime with Alex

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Speaker 2: Steine on Blaze TV. Alex, thanks for your time tonight

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Speaker 2: and I'm so sorry for your loss. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: ask you about your relationship with Charlie. You've spoken before

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Speaker 2: about how incredible he was in helping to kick start

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Speaker 2: your career. Tell us how you met and what sort

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Speaker 2: of impact he had on your life.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, Charlie was a true champion for free speech.

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Speaker 10: And I was very lucky that Charlie kind of you know,

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Speaker 10: he took a liking to my viral videos and he

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Speaker 10: gave me an opportunity to be a part of Turning

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Speaker 10: Point USA. And you know, I'll be honest, during my time,

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Speaker 10: you know, I'm still a Turning Point. I had some

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Speaker 10: you know, minor controversies and very easily Charlie could have

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Speaker 10: turned his back on me, and he did not. He

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Speaker 10: stuck with me, and he gave me even more opportunities.

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Speaker 10: So he was truly truly a champion of free speech.

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Speaker 10: And it's just such a tragedy for a person like

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Speaker 10: Charlie to not be here anymore, because he was truly

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Speaker 10: the leader of the conservative movement, especially you know, the

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Speaker 10: youth and the you know, college aged people. He was

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Speaker 10: like their leader. And without that, there's a huge void

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Speaker 10: that will not be able to be filled by one person.

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Speaker 10: Definitely not even close by me. I mean, I couldn't

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Speaker 10: even hold a candle to Charlie Kirk. But it's just

789
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Speaker 10: the world just significantly worse without him than it is

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Speaker 10: with him.

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Speaker 2: Take me back to where you were when you found

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Speaker 2: out what happened. What was your reaction must have been

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Speaker 2: an utter disbelief, But to some extent was you know,

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Speaker 2: was the climate there that something like this could happen

795
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Speaker 2: to a conservative figure there in the US?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 10: To be honest, yeah, I mean, Charlie had you know,

798
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Speaker 10: a high level security at all of his events. He

799
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Speaker 10: was you know, talked about it pretty openly. And I'll

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Speaker 10: tell you this much. If Charlie knew that there was

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Speaker 10: a possibility that he would get shot and die on campus,

802
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Speaker 10: if he knew that that was going to be his outcome,

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Speaker 10: I know that he would still have chosen to go

804
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Speaker 10: on college campuses and defend free speech because he cared

805
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Speaker 10: about it that much. He truly, truly, you know, was

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Speaker 10: willing to die for what he believed in, unlike most people.

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Speaker 10: And that's why he's a martyr, because he.

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Speaker 1: Died for what he was.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he is literally a con a free speech

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Speaker 10: civil rights icon, and there's no debate in my mind

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Speaker 10: whatsoever when I make that statement.

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Speaker 2: No, you talked about what a huge role he had

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Speaker 2: to play, especially among the younger generation, how no one

814
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Speaker 2: can sort of fill that place. What do you think

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Speaker 2: happens now to the conservative movement, especially among those younger voters.

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Speaker 2: Will it continue? Will it get even stronger because of

817
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Speaker 2: this event?

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00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean right now, Turning Point has had an

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Speaker 10: influx and support. Every single t shirt on their website

821
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Speaker 10: has sold out, all of their events, The tickets have

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Speaker 10: gone up, more people want to get involved. The request

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Speaker 10: for chapters is up, you know, tenfold more than that.

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Speaker 10: So obviously there is I guess, you know, a silver

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Speaker 10: lining and the fact that now Charlie's legacy will even

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Speaker 10: be bigger. But it's just not the same without Charlie,

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Speaker 10: and I think point, I know, Turning Point will go on,

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Speaker 10: but it's just kind of like just it just doesn't

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Speaker 10: have the same energy without Charlie.

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Speaker 13: And that can be.

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Speaker 10: Replaced by you know, a team of people, but it's

832
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Speaker 10: still just not going to be the same.

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Speaker 14: Alex.

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Speaker 3: It is a very somber time.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to play a short clip from

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Speaker 2: your latest video with Charlie that is sure to make

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Speaker 2: some viewers smile or laugh.

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Speaker 3: I hope this was only a month ago.

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Speaker 1: Have it watched.

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Speaker 10: Mister Stein, Well, mister Stein, that's my government name. My

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Speaker 10: street name is Charlie Kirt, the world's greatest college debater.

842
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Speaker 10: And I know you are a season debater, but I

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Speaker 10: am the best. And I must say, Charlie, you are

844
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Speaker 10: talking about immigration, and you're talking about deportations, mass deportations.

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Speaker 10: But I must say that my housekeeper, Juanita has raised

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Speaker 10: me since I was a little boy, and she's as

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Speaker 10: legal as hell. She's not legal and legal illegal. So

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Speaker 10: I want to say that, Charlie, why would you want

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Speaker 10: to kick out my house because we need to protect

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Speaker 10: all big booty latinas. If you're a nine, you are fine,

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Speaker 10: you get to stay. If you're an eight, we can

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Speaker 10: have an immigration debate. If you're a six, you can

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Speaker 10: kick bricks. But Charlie, let's protect my housekeeper. What does

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Speaker 10: wan Needa have to go? Charlie. But you said she's legal, right,

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Speaker 10: she's illegal? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Illegal?

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Speaker 10: Eeg oh yeah, she's very illegal. No paper, sorry, they

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Speaker 10: all gotta go. No, Charlie, I can't afford to pay

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Speaker 10: a legal one. It's like fifty cents an hour for her.

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Speaker 10: It's gonna break break your bank. Charlie, Please just let

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Speaker 10: the ladies stay.

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Speaker 9: She's not no amnesty, no deportations, no exceptions, they're all gone.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Well, I still want this debate. I love Charlie,

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Speaker 10: we love it, We love you Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I want to have.

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Speaker 2: Charlie you rule. Thanks guys, thank you, Alex Alex.

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Speaker 3: It's such a good reminder.

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Speaker 2: While Charlie spent most of his time debating lefties fighting

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Speaker 2: for his values, he always seemed willing to laugh at himself,

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Speaker 2: to laugh at the movement. And also, please give us

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Speaker 2: an update on your housekeeper.

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Speaker 3: She's still with you.

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Speaker 10: Well, I can't say because we're all on the air,

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Speaker 10: but let's just say we cannot.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 10: I can't comment on that. But what I can't comment

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00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 10: on Charlie is that this is what made Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 10: so special, is that he actually had the ability of

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Speaker 10: the ability to laugh at himself, to be self deprecating.

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Speaker 10: When South Park made a whole entire episode about him,

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Speaker 10: he loved that he laughed about that. Because he was young,

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Speaker 10: he understands the culture and how you know, if you

883
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 10: get teased, if nobody teases you, then really you're not relevant.

884
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Speaker 10: So he understood that he put himself out there in

885
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 10: the spotlight and that he was gonna get some jokes.

886
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Speaker 10: And I used to play a character called Charlie Kirk

887
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 10: where I was kind of like the you know, dollar

888
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 10: store version of Charlie, and he thought that was hilarious.

889
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 10: He would even respond to the clips. So Charlie had

890
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 10: a great sense of humor. It wasn't all just doom

891
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 10: and gloom. Really not much doom and gloom at all,

892
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Speaker 10: But I'm saying it wasn't all debate. He actually had

893
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 10: a sense of humor and really loved to let it loose.

894
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Speaker 10: I would say, I'm just kind of sad that the

895
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 10: world didn't get to see more of the Charlie Kirk

896
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 10: that was really laid back and joking around, even though

897
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 10: people did know him that knew Charlie knew that he

898
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 10: liked to chook around. It's just he's not really known

899
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 10: for his sense of humor. He probably should have been more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is great to see that clip,

901
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: as I said, and to see so many other clips

902
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: come to light. I mean, my social media feeds are

903
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: just filled with Charlie Kirk clips that I'd never seen before,

904
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: and sometimes surprising exchanges that he had with people, you

905
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: know that might be a young gay conservative person who

906
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: might not have expected him to be as accepting of them.

907
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: And I think people are learning that he isn't maybe

908
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: as black and white as some of the critics may

909
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: want him to see.

910
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 10: Oh, no way, Charlie was all about respect in unity

911
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 10: and peace and love and reaching across the aisle. He

912
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 10: didn't care about your color, he didn't care about your

913
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 10: sexual orientation. He was the most inclusive guy. He was

914
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 10: literally what the left tries to pretend to be. I mean,

915
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 10: he actually wanted to engage in conversations that would be different,

916
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 10: cult that people would not agree on, instead of being

917
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Speaker 10: in an echo chamber. So no, Charlie didn't have a

918
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 10: racist bone in his body. And you see the people

919
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 10: that are attacking Charlie Kirk, and you know people are

920
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 10: going viral for it and losing their jobs. To be honest,

921
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 10: Charlie would defend those people's rights to make fun of

922
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 10: him and tease him. And that's the difference. They wouldn't

923
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 10: do that for Charlie, And it shows you the type

924
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 10: of integrity that he had.

925
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much irony there.

926
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Speaker 2: And speaking of that controversial UK punk rap duo, Bob

927
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Speaker 2: Villain has come on to buy again this time after

928
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: the brand. The band's frontman Bobby Villain, celebrated Kirk's death

929
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Speaker 2: while performing on stage.

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Speaker 13: I want to.

931
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Speaker 4: Dedicate this next one the pronouns.

932
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's disgusting Alex. You can see the grin

933
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: on his face as he's making those appalling comments. This

934
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: was the same guy who was chanting death to the

935
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Speaker 2: IDF who made that famous at Glastonbury. The band's upcoming

936
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: concert has now been canceled in response to the widespread

937
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: backlash they've received, but Villain has now uploaded a rather

938
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Speaker 2: unconvincing video to exclaiming actually he wasn't celebrating Kirk's death.

939
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Speaker 8: Yeah, real quick, At no point during yesterday's show was

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00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk's death celebrated. At no point whatsoever did we

941
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 8: celebrate Charlie Kirk's death. I did call him a piece

942
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 8: of that much is true, But at no point was

943
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 8: his death celebrated. If it was, go find me a quote,

944
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 8: Go find me something that proves that we was celebrating

945
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 8: his death. You're not going to find it because it

946
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 8: didn't happen.

947
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Speaker 2: We just found the quote, the grab showing how you

948
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: celebrated it and grinned on stage, But Alex, we all

949
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: saw this. But this is what happens all the time

950
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: on the hot lift. They say these things and they

951
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: try to cover it up.

952
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 10: No, you're exactly right. But listen, Charlie has no idea

953
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 10: who Bob Villain is. And Charlie could care less and

954
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 10: I don't really know for that matter, who Bob Villain is.

955
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 10: And like I said before, Charlie would defend that guy's

956
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 10: right to say it. And you see that the Attorney General,

957
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 10: Pam Bondi is suppos they're going to put in hate

958
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 10: speech laws. Charlie Kirk was adamantly against all hate speech laws.

959
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 10: He was a free free speech absolutist. So once again,

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00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 10: Bob Villain, the guy's an idiot. He's not talented. All

961
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 10: he can do is get clicks by basically saying controversial stuff.

962
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 10: I mean, that's what he is. He's a provocateur and

963
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 10: not necessarily an artist. And so I know Charlie wouldn't

964
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 10: have lost you know, a minute of sleep of his opinion.

965
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Speaker 10: So you know, at the end of the day, Charlie

966
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Speaker 10: also wouldn't want these guys to get canceled for you know,

967
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 10: what they say online or you know, in public.

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Speaker 2: He was a much bigger man than many of them.

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Speaker 2: Alex Sign, thank you so much for your time.

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00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's it for me. Up next is Newsnight. Good night,