WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 4 March 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.120 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.440 Thank you, Cherry, come on into the man Cave. We 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.520 have been following tropical Cyclone Alfred for many, many days. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.239 It gets serious from now. In the second al I 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.239 have plenty to say about politics, and we've got the 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.320 great Nigel Farage on the show and a great back 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.079 and forth, and no doubt it'll be here between Gary 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.560 Hardgrave and Nicholas Rees. But I just want to send 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.600 nothing but strength and love to my favorite state in 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:29.720 the country and the many many people who are going 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.159 to be affected by this. About twenty thousand homes look 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.599 like they may will end up being affected by the 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.000 storm surge. It's now Noosa down to Grafton in New 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.080 South Wales. Here's some of the people trying to get ready. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.400 I think all of us come out early is to 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.080 beat the rush. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.159 Get it early and get ourselves prepared ready for what. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:49.639 You know is coming. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.800 To beat the traffic because yesterday afternoon it was chaos 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:53.159 out here. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:54.960 We're not going to leave the island. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.800 We're staying. Bat down the hatches. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.840 Yeah, the supermarkets had to step in today after what 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.560 I told you last night, which was that there's an 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.520 awful lot of people who are buying up big trying 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:10.440 to grab things like water at the moment. Apparently Coles 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.800 and Woolies have both made big announcements about that today. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.480 But here again some of the locals. Our focus always 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:16.840 on the good people of the great state. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.520 Toilet Paper is a big one, Milk's another, nets a 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:22.200 bit light on. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.199 It's COVID all over again. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.720 Well, what is it about toilet paper? 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.280 What is it about toilet paper where people lose their 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.600 brain but they do all right, Well, we smile now, 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.240 but it's not going to be the case. The expectations 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.320 are if we can bring that live radar up again, guys, 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.640 the situation and expectation is that the green is where 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.520 it has gone, the yellow is where it is now, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:49.400 and then where it is. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.240 Expected to go. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.160 As the Bureau told Sharry about an hour ago, most 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.160 likely in the later hours, certainly when we're on air 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.600 on Thursday day night is when this thing is going 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.880 to cross. But obviously there's a lot of damage that 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:09.280 can happen before then and after, so Thursday night is 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.280 going to be the real moment. So there is basically 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.320 another full day of preparation and then some concern that 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.840 rolls in that premiere is going to be trying to 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.440 calm people's nerves while simultaneously telling people that this is 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:22.440 nothing to muck around with. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.320 We'll get through this if you do the preparation and 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.720 the little things that you do now make a big 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.080 difference at the back end of the system in whatever 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.120 that looks like, wherever it crosses, at whatever intensity. We're 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.560 asking a large part of the population in a pretty 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.720 big area, in a large population to be ready. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.080 Basically think about it, Sunny Coast, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Northern 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.160 New South Wales. That's an awful lot of people who, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.000 no doubt are nervous, certainly people that I love in 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.040 an area that I look for to living in at 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.280 one point in my life into the future. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.960 But strength and love to everyone involved in a right now. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.720 Twenty eight thousand homes, a lot of those homes which 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.760 are of course very close to the coastline, very close 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.600 to the canals, all of those areas up and down 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.600 that particular area. The latest from sky News Weather and 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.119 remember please make sky news dot com dot are you 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.880 your homepage and keep checking in with them for the 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.239 up to the second information. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.880 Landfall is still expected to be between Sunjenko's and Brisbane. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.359 The leaders showing that it is still fevoring south towards 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.959 Brisbane and in time for landfall. That best timing right now, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.320 happening between Thursday evening and Auvern eight into Friday morning. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.280 Now, also a couple of things you need to know about. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.160 Normally we do this stuff after natural disasters, but there's something. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.440 Worth talking about now and it's insurance. Okay. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.360 We know that our mates are in the North when 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.800 they were hit with floods. They're still having huge troubles 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.120 at the moment when it comes to insurance companies and 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.600 inevitably the you know, the mud army will be there. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.680 People will go and do their bit, But now is 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.600 the time of double check about your standing. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.440 Right now when it comes to insurance. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.680 Suncorp one of the bigger insurers in Southeast Queensland, they 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.200 are saying this one is going to be big. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.400 We know that to be the case. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.400 But a really great article actually popped its way up 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.520 on the Courier Mail's website which I want to bring 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.159 you to here, which is that you can use the 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:24.799 power of AI to work out exactly whether you're covered 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.720 or not now a lot of people think that they 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.520 have a storm or flood cover but then you find out, well, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.920 the water came from this angle, not that angle, so 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.880 they say use AI. Basically, you take the terms and conditions, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.680 the really complicated part of your policy. You put it 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.680 into something like a chat GPT and ask it a 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.960 am I covered for? Please explain what I am not 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.800 covered for? And you can maybe use the period of 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.440 time between now and Thursday to make sure that everything 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.039 is in place. Now again, I hope that this is 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.880 all just another example about people getting it wrong, people overhyping, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.280 But the reality is you have to assume that it 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.279 is what they say it's going to be. We'll have 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.240 full coverage here as it is all happening on Thursday night. 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.919 We keep an eye and focus and send nothing but 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.120 strength and love to the preparations of the next couple 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:09.960 of days. But Queensland, you know how much I love you, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.080 and you know how much we are in it with 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:16.520 you for the next couple of days and many many 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:21.719 years after that. So today let's again focus on how 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.159 the media helped the Labour Party do its dirty work, 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.279 spinning a lie, a half truth, or just trying to 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.880 push a narrative. Well, today the opposition said that if 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.400 you work for the federal government, it is time to 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.719 come back to the office. It is now the best 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.440 part of what five years since all of the COVID 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.640 business meant that people weren't in the office, working from home. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:43.200 All the rest of it. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.480 And the reality is that the federal government spends undreds 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.479 of millions of dollars on offices, and the alternative Prime 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.320 Minister says, if you're being paid by the taxpayer, you 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.000 should also be working from the place that the taxpayer 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.360 is already paying. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.240 For Australian taxpayers who are working harder than ever this 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.360 government and barely keeping the head above water. I think 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.760 they expect the government and the government employees to be 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.000 working as hard as they are, and people refusing to 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.840 go back to work in Canberra is not acceptable. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.680 We need an efficient delivery of government services now. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.280 Who would have a problem with this, Well, of course 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.560 the Labour Party, who not only has hired a football 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.240 stadium worth of brand new public servants, has given all 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.800 public servants their biggest pay rise in ten years, and 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.840 of course expects them all to vote for the government. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.440 Remember the whole way that the modern left works is 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.520 that they want to create a triangle of dependency, one 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.480 that will cover sixty seventy percent of the electorate, meaning 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.240 that they will always remain in power. This was the 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.160 way in Queensland for the best part of thirty years. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.080 It has been the way in Victoria up until today, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.920 which is you either work for the government so you 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.480 don't want to upset them, you don't want to upset 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.799 the apple cart, or you are dependent on the government 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.200 when it comes to welfare, and any suggestion that you 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.120 shouldn't get more than anyone else, that of course becomes 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.680 a reason to be afraid of a change of government. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.039 Or if you're in private business, the because company is 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.880 the government. Therefore you don't want to displease the government. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.640 So we know who they're playing to here. And certainly 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.840 the camera bubble will always vote left, will always vote 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.000 hard left, often more likely to vote green than it 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.840 is to vote labor in some parts. But look at 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.840 the reaction today. How for some reason, this very simple request, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.760 which is go back to where you have always worked, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.560 has been tried to be spun as some sort of 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:35.280 attack on women on female workers. First, the Prime Minister, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.280 with an odd take on a pretty obvious suggestion that 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.280 I would imagine most Australians who don't work in the 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.000 public service, well they already don't have the option of 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.040 working from home. But where just the little people right the. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.280 Coalition want public servants to be at home all the time, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.680 thirty six thousand of them, because I want to sack them. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.720 Be very clear here. So on the one hand they 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.480 say you can just stay at home because those additional 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.640 public servants where we've put six billion dollars in the 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:11.960 clearing off those cues in veterans affairs. They're saying you 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:12.960 can just stay at home. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:14.800 What a surprise. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.200 The bloke who is a creature of the Canberra bubble, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.760 who has had literally no other job than for government, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.840 either as an MP or as an advisor, the one 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.320 who knows that the heavily unionized people slow play the 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.840 ball during conservative times of government and do exactly what 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.760 this government or left wing governments want, is of course 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.560 the great champion of all things when it comes to 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.440 the public service. For those of us that are paying 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.280 for the public service, we want fewer public servants. We 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.960 want more simplicity, We want people actually involved in services 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:44.800 rather than sitting. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.280 Behind computed the no. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.000 But as for this gender garbage, and he's got a 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.720 run in much of the media today Katie Gallagher, who 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.960 of course represents the act where the business is the 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:58.760 public service. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.400 I mean they've now said working from homes you are 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.040 going to be canceled. You know, they don't have women's 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.560 interests at heart on the working from home. Can I 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:13.240 just say on this clearly the opposition have no idea 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.800 about how modern working families operate. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.160 Seriously, you want to talk about people who have no 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.040 idea how modern working families work, which. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.080 Is that most jobs require somebody to leave the house. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.560 Now, yes, it's okay if you can find a way 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.959 to maybe Monday, maybe Friday. And I understand if you're 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.480 involved in all of that, fair enough, But the idea 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.520 that when you work for the government that you don't 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.640 have to go to the office because you see, what 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.719 these people don't understand is all of the private businesses 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.640 that are affected by people not going into the office. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.760 You know, all those coffee shops for the days you 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.000 do go into the office, they need seven days worth 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.960 of trade. All of the ancillary businesses from the lowly 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:02.000 cleaners all the way through to the people working in 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.280 the private sector. They need as many people in the 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.439 cities as possible. Now mat Nicholas Race, of course runs 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.600 the city that needs as many people in the city 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.079 as possible for the city to not just be revitalized, 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.720 but to have an economy that actually means there are options. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.120 When you go into the city on the weekend, you 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.079 see these people don't get that. They don't care because 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.760 they fly at the front end of the plane. They 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.480 don't pay for anything, and they are more than happy 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.520 for this triangle of dependency that I was mentioning before. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.640 But before we start suggesting that this is somehow an 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.120 attack on women and the demand of going back to 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.480 the office is some knuckle dragging right wing position. Do 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.839 they know that the governor of California card carrying super 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:49.679 lefty he wants everyone back in the office on no, no, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.480 But it's all about Peter Dutton. And of course it's 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.600 all code for the Liberal Party has a problem with women. Well, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.960 guess who actually has a problem with women. And it 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.839 seems like until people are reminded that they have a 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.079 problem with the Liberal Party that when people just judge 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.400 a government on its actions or lack of actions, or 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:11.120 see the difference between strong leadership and weak leadership that 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.480 people will they move their vote away from Labor today. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.320 The essential poll in the Turmbal Times the Guardian was 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.720 released today and it shows that the male vote thirty 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.240 seven to thirty one. But guess what, the Labor Party 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.560 has fewer votes with women than the Liberal Party does 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.760 right now. In fact, according to the primary vote went 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.800 it comes to women compared for men thirty one thirty seven, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.280 it is now twenty eight to thirty five. Oh no, 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.160 but apparently it's a Liberal Party who has a problem 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:43.560 with women. No, right now, the Labor Party seems to 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.640 have a problem with women, but don't tell anyone. And 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.560 the fact that the media can't be bothered even checking 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.760 the polls that are released today before running garbage like that. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.319 And then there's the second part of this. R. Anthony Albernezi, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.040 of course, desperately would love to pretend that Peter Dutton 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.200 is the Aussie version of Donald Trump, and the majority 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.959 of Australians don't like Donald Trump, so therefore they're not 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.680 going to vote for Peter Dutton. But of course he 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.720 can't say that out loud because if he goes after 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.800 Donald Trump, well, we know how Donald Trump is going 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.599 to respond, and right now I think we're trying to 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.600 get an exemption when it comes to things like trade tariffs. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.680 Of course, much of the defense of this country comes 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:27.080 out of, frankly, the kindness of the United States, while 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.520 government's like his that have more tax coming in than 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.720 ever before spend most of their money on welfare rather 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:38.559 than defense. Have a look at how Anthony Alberanzi is 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:43.040 trying to play four D chess, sending simple messages that 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:44.880 Dutton is Trump. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.439 No, we don't have to adopt all of America's policies. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.920 What we have here from Peter Dutton is that he's 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.480 so policy lazy, him and his team that they just 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:04.360 if they hear something on the news, an announcement from 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.920 overseas about sacking public servants or people working from home 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:13.640 or DEI, you know, the dreaded inclusion policy that they're 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.000 so worried about, they say, yeah, I'll have some of that. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.520 I don't know if you guys can replay that grab 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.920 but with no sound while I make this point, feel 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.600 free if we can technically tell me if I can't 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.040 end my year, I'm just coming up with an idea 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.800 live on the TV. Do you see how unimpressed the 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.079 people behind the Prime minister are look at the premier 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.160 views that, well is a proper leader again, jeez, really 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.439 are going to stand behind this bloke and the other 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.280 guy going, what what's the point you're trying to make? Well, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.360 of course, before Donald Trump was re elected as the 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.920 forty seventh President of the United States, they thought he 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.360 would never return. They thought the Trumpian politics was so 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.520 terrible that they could make reference to it when the 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.600 majority of the country was turning against his government when 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.400 it came to the voice. So this is just the 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.640 same thing but being said in a different way. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:07.320 That the No campaign are importing American style Trump politics 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:12.839 to Australia. Its aim is to polarize people and to 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:18.360 and this weapon of choice is missed information. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.880 She's still a member of Parliament by the way, still 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.520 a member of Parliament. But let's get to the Trump 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.720 of it all and the Trump effect on Australian politics 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.440 and Australian's position when it comes to who is best 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.440 to actually handle the relationship with the leader of the 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.080 free world, who ain't going anywhere for the entirety of 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.800 the next electoral term. Here in Australia, the Red Bridge 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.000 Pole that we put a lot of emphasis on and 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.720 we talk about in great granular detail Sunday Nights here 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.360 with the State of the Race, one of my favorite 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.440 segments we do each and every week. Well, they asked 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.640 people and they came back with one conclusion that Peter 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.760 Dutton is the better person to deal with Donald Trump. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.560 So Albo is simultaneous trying to suck up to while 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:07.600 campaigning against Trump, hoping that you won't notice. But it's 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.360 pretty obvious what he's referring to when he's referring to 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.640 what he is referring to. So it's no wonder the 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.480 Cherry Markson's reporting, as excellent as it always is tonight, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.720 is that Albo can't get a phone call back from 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.600 the US President. I hope this changes because those tariffs 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.840 they kick in next week. Now, I wasn't going to 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.560 fall into what I thought was the outrage and the 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.280 weakness of the Prime Minister at the time. They're not 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.080 going to get exemption and I thought we were going 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.520 to get one. But part of that is having an 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.040 ongoing relationship with Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is all 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.400 about relationships, and he knows that if you turn up 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.280 after he's been elected, that you're affair with a friend. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.680 If you turn up after he's been sworn in, then 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.560 you're doing it out of politeness. There are many, many people, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.440 from major CEOs to leaders of countries who built bridges 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.600 to Donald Trump, not just before the election, but most 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.280 importantly in the period of time between no vs. Last 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.600 year and January when he was sworn in. Our Prime minister. No, no, no, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.520 couldn't do that. Couldn't go and visit, couldn't go and 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.520 pick up the phone, couldn't form some sort of a 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.680 relationship beforehand. So you rely on that relationship when you 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.240 need something, which brings us to the Karen rud of 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:20.560 it all. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:21.600 Now. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.440 Kevin Rudd, of course, was somebody who has said plenty 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.400 of nasty things about Donald Trump. But now that the 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.880 world has changed, he's now trying to do everything he can, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.680 kissing every single bit of the backside he possibly can, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.840 to find a way to get a result for Australia, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.800 because firstly that is of course his job as the 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.400 ambassador for Australia, but also it's to make sure that 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.960 he holds onto his job for as long as possible. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.040 But if he can't get a phone call, and he 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.800 can't get a meeting, and we can't get a phone 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.880 call after the last phone call, which was back what 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.400 middle of February. Then it shows that we are getting 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.400 the freeze out. And it's one thing for us to 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.640 get the freeze out from a hostile nations China, it's 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.239 another one to get it from the United States of America. Now, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:05.760 it doesn't mean that you have to go all Trump 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.399 all the time and say every decision is amazing, No 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.320 human being is beyond criticism. But clearly they put zero 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.199 effort into building a bridge. And last week in the 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.560 Senate there was a fascinating little bit of detail about 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.239 what the media told us at the time was a 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.000 meeting that had taken place between Donald Trump and Kevin Rudd. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.320 Now remember the Prime Minister was out and about and 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.840 saying that, yes, a meeting, a meeting between Donald Trump 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:40.200 and Kevin Rudd was really important. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.959 We discussed that and we'll get together at the quad 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.920 all before, but we'll look forward to having one on 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.000 one discussions as well, but will continue to be in contact. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.760 But despite the leaking, despite the briefing, despite the spin, 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.320 despite the media pretending that there had been some sort 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.200 of a top level meeting between the person who represents 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.399 us in Washington or of course the Prime Minister who yes, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.720 has had a couple of phone calls last week in 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.399 the Senate James Patterson, the shadow Homer first minister. He 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.240 had in front of him, Penny Wong, the person representing 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.200 of course the Foreign Office, and the Foreign Office has 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:26.280 its well she is Kevin Rud's boss. Have a listen 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.800 to just how little detail they had about the supposed 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:35.600 meeting that took place between Rudd and Trump. This is amazing. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.800 Can you tell me the dates of that direct contract? 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:44.240 I'm not sure we. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:46.360 Have that here. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.200 Might have to take that on notice. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:51.119 No officials know. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.480 It's a pretty big deal if our ambassador met with 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:53.959 the president. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.040 Who don't know when that was? 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:02.240 Well, since then we've had two conversations between the Prime Minister. Yes, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.560 some aware of those, and we might come to that. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.639 But when did Ambassadorud meet President Trump? 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.359 We said we take that on leaders. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.960 No one knows because it wasn't a meeting. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:19.240 Where did the meeting take place? Well, again they know nothing. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:21.879 Can you say where the meeting was? 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.480 Well, I think refer to previous. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.919 Answers Ema, then well, this specific date might not be 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.280 an official state of maguage, but the location might be. 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.439 We will undertake to provide you as much information as 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:35.720 possible as quickly as possible. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.120 Now, the Prime Minister and his office, and most likely 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.040 Kevin Rudd in his office, was out and about telling 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.240 that this meeting apparently took place at one of Trump's 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.480 golf courses, information that is either not relayed or not 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.919 known because it wasn't a meeting. Stalking somebody at a 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.920 country club and waving at them or maybe shaking their 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.240 hand as they're moving to the thing they really want 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.040 to do is not a meeting. There has been no 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.720 meeting between the President of the United States and the 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.600 ambassador to Washington, yet the media at the start of 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.320 this year told you over and over again that it 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.199 had actually taken place. No, the most FaceTime that an 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.840 Australian has had with Donald Trump is not the former 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.880 Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, but the former Prime Minister Scott Morrison. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.439 This was him with Jenny and Millennia at their house 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:28.159 in Florida on New Year's Eve. It feels like we 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.800 have the wrong former prime minister being the one who's 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.080 actually doing the reach out right now, because obviously one's 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:34.720 going to get a phone call back, the other is. 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.879 Going to be put in deep freeze. Why because he 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:37.840