1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: On scoring leads Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: to the readA Panety show. Coming up tonight the election 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: post mortem and the crucial leadership decision facing the Liberal Party. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: The panel will join me shortly. The Greens decimated while 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: the Tills have plenty of seats but zero power after 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Labour's dumping majority. Professor Employment joins me shortly to discuss 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: what we can expect from a second term Albanese government. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's borders are threatens to arrest leaders of 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities. Army Horowitz will be here to cover the 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: latest from the US, and later in the hour, Kinsey 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Schofield on why King Charles refuses to speak to Prince 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: Harry and Left is losing It has plenty of fun 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: and frivolity, as well as this anti milk lunacy from Berlin. 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: Business. 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: But first, joining me now for a post mortem of 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: the political blood bath we saw play out over the weekend. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Our Sky and News contributors prim McSween and Tina McQueen. Ladies. 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: We will get to the election results shortly, but let's 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: start with the Liberals searching for a new leader. After 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton lost his own seat. That are reports the 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: coalition is exploring a potential unity ticket consisting of Shadow 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: Treasurer Angus Taylor as leader and Shadow Immigration mister Dan 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Tin as his deputy. Flinder's MP Zoe Mackenzie would be 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: elevated to Manager of Opposition Business. Who is your pick 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: to rebuild the Liberal brand? 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: I think whoever the small party room decide on now 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: will not lead into. 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: The next election. 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: So I would say possibly Angus Taylor will probably have 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: the numbers to be leader when they resume, but I 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: really don't feel he will lead the team into the election. 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's sad to say, but slim pickings for 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: us in the party. But there also may be some 35 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: people to unexpected entries into the field last minute. I 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: can't confirm that now, but I am hearing a couple 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: of other names that may throw the hat in the ring. 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: But it's such a dismal, dismal thing to do to 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: try and elect Lena when so many have been wiped out. 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking. Well, it's going to be a long tough 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: road through to the next election and be in a 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: position to actually form a government. It seems like a 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: lot of the talent for the Liberal Party is in 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: the upper house, in the Senate and the lower house. 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: It is slim. 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: Pickings absolutely, and you know, whoever really does go in now, 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 5: I believe is a seat warmer. Things are going to 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 5: change in six years because frankly. 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: I think that Albaneze is going to be in for 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: it le six years. 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: But in this first term they're going to be irrelevant really, 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 5: so I don't think that Hangus Taylor is really up 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 5: for the job in the longer term. To me, it's 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 5: almost irrelevant who goes in there. I would you hear 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: of people like alexanderik If, but of course he's in 56 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 5: the wrong house. You look at Ted O'Brien, I think 57 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 5: he's a really strong performer if given what he did 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: during the energy debate, and I would like to see 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: Ted O'Brien Hasty Duo in the second term of Albanese's 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: government and to take it up to him then. 61 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, I said on Outsiders yesterday that Hasty for me 62 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: is the clear choice. Now he actually has to put 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: his hat into the ring to make that happen. But 64 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: he's young, he is principled. There is just an X 65 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: factor about him. He's got charisma, got an incredible history 66 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: before he entered politics. There's just so much going for him. 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: Being from Wa isn't seen as helpful, but I think 68 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: in this day and age it shouldn't stop someone from 69 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: being elevated to leader. We'll see what happens there. Now 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: let's turn our attention to what went wrong for the Liberals, 71 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: and we've seen contrasting reports in the media today. We've 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: got Jeff Chambers and Greg Brown writing in The Australian 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: that Peter Dutton and his team went into the campaign 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: with a and I quote fatal over confidence that were 75 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: void by the coalition's resurgence following the Indigenous Voice referendum 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: and the labor mistakes and immigration and the number of 77 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: political scandals. But we've got James Campbell writing in The 78 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Herald Son that Dutton's campaign deliberately shielded the leader from 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: key intel, including how dire the polls were in his 80 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: own seat of Dixon, because and I quote here, he 81 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: was already a nervous wreck. Prewe we've been saying on 82 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: this program for weeks now. Remember the last discussion we 83 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: had the three of us was all about just what 84 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: a terrible campaign this has been from the Liberals, how 85 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: lackluster it has been, how weak, How you know, there's 86 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: barely any policy differentiation that you can point to to 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: encourage voters to throw out a first term government. And 88 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone could be shocked by the result. 89 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: But I've got to say I was shocked by Peter 90 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Dutton losing his own seat. Well yes and no. 91 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 5: I mean there were pundits saying that or insider saying 92 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 5: that he was very vulnerable. But Philip Koury in the 93 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: AFR was saying, you know, there's going to be a 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: lot of soul searching for the Liberal Party, but it 95 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 5: has no soul. And I think that's the problem that 96 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 5: when you look at the whole executive, the operational procedures, 97 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 5: the fact that really it needs a toe to rebrand, 98 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: a revisit to its operational side. The people on the 99 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: ground are non existent. There are no supporters that are 100 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: there or likely successes to help. 101 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: I just think that they have. 102 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: To go back to tours and look at what you 103 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 5: do in any campaign. When I do strategies for clients 104 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: and you have to look at your operational structure, you 105 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: then have to set your policies that you want to 106 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: achieve and then you prosecute them. You think about who 107 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: your targets are and prosecute them. And the Liberal Party 108 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 5: hasn't done that. I don't know what they did for 109 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 5: three years. They sat on their hands and didn't come 110 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 5: up with any custard or thought through policy. 111 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: I'll call out now and Andrew Hurst should have resigned 112 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: by now. The President John Olson should be gone, the 113 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: rest of that executive be gone. 114 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: Paul Dutton was given. 115 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: Private polling which was absolute bers. 116 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: So he was behind the eight ball along. 117 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: I am libert and these guys should have gone yesterday, 118 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 4: not today. Should have gone yesterday. You've got an eighty 119 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: year old president that's been there for quite a while. 120 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: Go move on, John and rehearse. 121 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: You're weak, you're a coward. You should have gone too. 122 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: So that's how angry I am Rita Well, Tina, is 123 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: that why the policy platform was so weak. I just 124 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: could not understand the strategy. They were almost operating from 125 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: the view that they were well in front and they 126 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: didn't want to have any big missteps, so they were 127 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: going to do a small target strategy. When you've got 128 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: a first term government and if you want to get 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: rid of a first term government, you better go hard, 130 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: you better go negative. You better have very clear policy 131 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: differentiation on big issues, and we didn't have that. If I, 132 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: as a conservative, have trouble understanding what the hell they're 133 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: up to and what they're proposing, how's the average person, 134 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: who may be a political or not that politically engage, 135 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: going to say I'm going to back this lot over 136 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: a first term government. That's right. 137 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: Look, having said on federal executive for a number of years, 138 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: you know they have a lot to say in the policy, 139 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: the advertising, everything, And I can tell you out of 140 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: that entire federal executive there's probably two conservative and there 141 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: in lies the problem. You know, there are no conviction 142 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: executives on that committee. And that's where we went That's 143 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: where we went wrong, and that's where Peter had no support. 144 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: It would have been their advice to muzzle all the 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: good performers and just make it about Peter, which was 146 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 4: absolutely stupid. 147 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: Idea. 148 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: I'm a strong leader, weren't we We wanted somebody who 149 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: would lead and prosecute a case against this disgraceful government. 150 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: And to back your policies, to give the people a 151 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: clear choice, and not to be so worried about appeasing 152 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: your opponents, appeasing the media, worried about media backlashes. I 153 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: just can't believe they're still operating in that environment where 154 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: they're trying to minimize the media backlash rather than take 155 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: a bold position and unapologetically prosecute the case like they 156 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: did with the Voice. Everyone attacked them for their Voice 157 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: position when they eventually took one after ten months, but 158 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: it worked because it gave the Australian people a clear choice. Now, 159 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: as we know, there are many people who are using 160 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: the election result to push their own political barrows. The 161 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: Liberals are quite susceptible to accepting the worst advice post election, 162 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: and I want to bring your attention a piece in 163 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph that claimed that Peter Dutton's toxic immigration policies, 164 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: which were very minor cuts to immigration, cost him dearly 165 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: and the Liberals should shy away from proposing migration cuts 166 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: in the future. I mean, this is just Bonker's stuff. 167 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: Every pole we see shows that the majority want to 168 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: see significant cuts to immigration, or at least cuts to 169 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: what we see the moment. And on election night I 170 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: was watching the ABC so nobody else had to. It 171 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: was taking one for the team. They were obsessed about 172 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: the final week of the election, campaigned a discussion around 173 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: welcome to country and acknowledgment of country, and they were 174 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: acting like that was a huge factor in the election result, 175 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: again ignoring the fact that all the polling shows those 176 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: ceremonies are not popular with the Australian people. Tina, what 177 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: is the danger of the higher ups within the Liberals, 178 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: the authorities within the Liberals listening to this very poor 179 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: advice and veering further left and again becoming labor lighte. 180 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: The Liberals don't win when they're labor lighte. We've seen 181 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: that in Wa, we've seen that in Victoria, and yet 182 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: this is what's been proposed federally. Oh, it's just crazy. 183 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: You know, when Dunton and we were all on that 184 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 4: Trump train, which I'm still on, if we had a 185 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: stood firm by that, but that, as I said, the 186 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: federal executive got spooked by the or we can't upset 187 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: the immigration, you know, we can't say anything bad about 188 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: working the country. All this is ridiculous. They were spooked, 189 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: absolutely spooked. Instead of going harder and standing firm on 190 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: those bold policies that the people respect. They backed off 191 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: them and that's where people lost respect for Dutton and 192 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: became very confused as to what his policies were. It's 193 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: just a shame that he was hijacked by that executive 194 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: and the left of the party and to taming things down. 195 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: It was ridiculous and that's why we've got the result. 196 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: We have pro if there was a landslide loss. But 197 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: he at least took a policy platform to the election 198 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: that was principled and strong and gave the Australian people 199 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 2: a clear choice. You could copy that. But the weakness 200 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: of the of the policy platform, the entire strategy being 201 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: so flawed. I think that's what stings for a lot 202 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: of Liberals is that you lost in a landslide and 203 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: he didn't really even turn up to the fight. 204 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 6: That's right. 205 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 5: You know, they've betrayed Conservative voters because they abandoned the 206 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: policies that would give us an excuse, a reason to 207 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 5: vote for them. They hadn't thought through the policies. They 208 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: got gutless. They got me too. 209 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't win an. 210 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 5: Election by following what Dick was dictated by your opposition, 211 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, because they didn't have well thought out, well 212 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 5: structured policies. They'd forgotten who they were talking to, who 213 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: their base is. 214 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: They abandoned all of that. 215 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: And you know, this is why we're all out in 216 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 5: the wilderness because and dismayed, because we were let down 217 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: badly by a supposedly conservative government that got spooped by 218 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 5: a bullying egomaniac who was the better retail politician. 219 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: And this is how gullible that the. 220 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: Voters are that they look. You know, we saw that 221 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 5: the job that was done to make Anthony Albanezi look 222 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: more palatable when he. 223 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: Got his new teeth, new guys's new wardrobe. 224 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: And then you look at Peter Dutton, who the poor 225 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 5: bugger was voldemorted, you know, but the man was still 226 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 5: deserved to be listened to, because if he'd been principled 227 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: and allowed to save what he really believed, I think 228 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: that passion would have come through prove it would have believed. 229 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: It was done by himself with no support team. 230 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: So all Labor had to do was demonized the man, 231 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: which they did. Dutton had no soldiers, there were no 232 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 4: Pratorian guards around him, which Labor admit that they had 233 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: great Batrurian guards. So yeah, look, there's so much to unpack. 234 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: But it's just a shame because Duttony is a very 235 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: very decent, decent man. I can assure you an absolutely 236 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: decent man, and perhaps too decent for politics. 237 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: And I think his own political insights things are sound. 238 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: But he, like you said, has been led astray by 239 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: people within the party who set the policy agenda. And 240 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: here we are, and you're right. Some of the strong performance, 241 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: Hasty Price, where were they? We barely saw any of 242 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: them and when they did speak it was like they 243 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: were scared of hearing from them. Now, the election did 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: see violent at versts, at polling booths. There was a 245 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: number of incidents. I'm just going to play one here. 246 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: It's a trumpet of patriots volunteer getting physically assaulted in 247 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: a booth in Pakenham. 248 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: H cut it out, you have cut it out. 249 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, we were built on bunticulturalism. 250 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, these ads on who what Australia is about? What 251 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: you're doing to you? 252 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 8: And I will see you go ahead, because I've got 253 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,119 Speaker 8: all these witnesses. 254 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: I've got you on of what you did? You struck first? 255 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Someone, Can we have some police here, please, Tina. 256 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: The nerve there. First he launches into that attack and 257 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: then says, I'm going to sue you. But before that, 258 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: we've got the lecture about how immigrants built the country 259 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: and how dare your ads vilify immigrants or whatever the 260 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: accusation was. I mean, the the nerve there is astonishing. 261 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: Oh look, I hope the police will call and that 262 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: guy's been rightly charged. That's terrible to resort to physical 263 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: to physical violence like that. But I've got to say 264 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: a lot of the booths were hot and heavy around 265 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: around the country. And that's another thing. I mean, our 266 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: Conservatives vote is split so many ways now with although 267 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: Clive Palmon didn't have too much effect, sometimes one or 268 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: two percent can really make the difference in a lot 269 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: of seats. So you know, maybe we should think of 270 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: not splintering these Conservatives groups and all joining together. I mean, 271 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: we have to do something otherwise, as Prue said, we're 272 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: going to be out of government for quite a while. 273 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: Well, the vote has splintered to the right. There's multiple 274 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: minor parties now that are on the right, and that 275 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: independent vote minor party vote is huge now. So it 276 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: definitely there needs to be some sort of a realignment 277 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: down the track if the coalition wants to be electable again. 278 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: Before we go, let's just have a look at a 279 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: silver lining in this election. And I'll be talking to 280 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: Professor and Plymer about this a little bit later. But 281 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: the Greens they suffered massive electoral losses and thankfully Labor 282 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: is not going to be in a coalition with this lot. 283 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 6: God, I'm so angry I could eat a. 284 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 7: Authorized by Jake Still Australian Green's camera. 285 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Yes, so hungry, he could eat a billionaire. Proof that is. 286 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: I've got to say sorry. 287 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: I was just going to say we can thank Advance 288 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: Australia who ran a tremendous campaign against the Greens that 289 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: clearly has paid off. 290 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think they've been very effective. Particularly their social 291 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: media work is far more effective than what we saw 292 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: from Liberal HQ ladies. Thank you so much for your 293 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: time tonight. Joining me now is a Steam geologist and author, 294 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer, a professor. Some of Australia's largest companies, 295 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: including Rio Tinto and West Farmers, are calling on Labor 296 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: to use its massive election win to boost productivity as 297 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: Australia battles its worst productivity slump on record, falling another 298 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: one point two percent in the last year, and Donald 299 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: Trump's tariffs and a sinking Chinese economy creating further concern 300 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: in do you expect to see productivity gains during Albanese's 301 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: second term. 302 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be hard because the Australian 303 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 6: Labor Party, is the political wing of the Union, already 304 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 6: got their hand up saying well, we want to screw 305 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 6: employers even more and that's going to mean greater costs 306 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 6: and decreasing productivity. And basically, the productivity is what's going 307 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 6: to pay back the debt that this country's got. And 308 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 6: unless you've got great productivity a lot of people working, 309 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 6: we cannot afford the welfare and we cannot afford the debt. 310 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 6: And this election was basically about those who are producing 311 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 6: and those who want to continue on welfare. 312 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: Well, we had very little policy differentiation from the Liberals, 313 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: so many of their policies were announced late. 314 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: Well, you've been saying that for ages, We've been. 315 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: Saying it week in, week out all year, but particularly 316 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: since the election was called. It's been enormously frustrating because 317 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: it's obvious that they were making massive missteps. If they 318 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: were actually interested in winning the election. But it's also 319 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: disappointing that Australian corporates, big end of town who are 320 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: impacted by productivity losses really didn't get involved in the 321 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: election campaign. They're very quick to get involved in social issues, 322 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: whether it's same sex marriage, the voice. They're very quick 323 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: to get political when it comes to things that actually 324 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: don't impact on the running of their business. But when 325 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: it's something like this that is crucial to the running 326 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: of their business, they haven't really said anything until now. 327 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly right. They like their field good policies. 328 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 6: Now Freeotinta supports the voice, Shay, what that doesn't change 329 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 6: the price of iron or that doesn't increase the number 330 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: of tons of iron or getting exported from the country. 331 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 6: But if they really focus on the important things, and 332 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 6: that's the productivity, then that does enter the bottom line. 333 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 6: So I'm really quite disappointed that Australia has changed from 334 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 6: a country that was built by labor workers in overalls 335 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 6: and now it's being destroyed by labor people in suits. 336 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 6: And the companies used to actually have quite a voice 337 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 6: in the way in which this country produced, the way 338 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 6: which is country stayed solvent, but now we have a 339 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 6: Union government and I can't see that happening, and the. 340 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: Unions are going to be very emboldened now. I mean 341 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: we've got a thumping Labor majority. The last time around 342 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: it was a very small majority and we saw how 343 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: they behaved. So now it's going to be I think, 344 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: a free for all now. It was also a terrible 345 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: nights for the Greens as well as the Liberals. The 346 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: Greens were decimated, falling well short of the nine seat 347 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: goal that at a Band had set his sights on, 348 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: and Band himself is perilously close to losing his own 349 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: seat to Labor's Sarah Whitty in We've got to say 350 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: the worst case scenario in this election has been avoided. 351 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: The worst case was always having a Labor minority government, 352 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: having to rely on the Greens in a coalition, having 353 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: the Greens holding the balance of power. Now we've got 354 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: the Greens really destroyed. Particularly if Banned ends up losing 355 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: his own seat, well. 356 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 6: Yes, and that would be sweet justice. And he has 357 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: been targeted by some groups like Advance, who very very 358 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 6: successfully targeted the hypocrisy and the anti everything of the Greens. 359 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 6: The Greens wanted to bring us back into caves, and 360 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 6: here we've got people who are living off the fat 361 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: of the land and as Greens politicians, and so I 362 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 6: think Advance deserve a lot of credit for attacking the 363 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 6: Greens as they did. It is a lineball with Adam Bant. 364 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 6: I think the preferences were very important, but the postal 365 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 6: and pre poll votes clearly are favoring the Labor Party 366 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 6: rather than the Greens, and I think that would be 367 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: a good thing because once the Greens were a party 368 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 6: that were hugging trees. Now they're quite happy to bulldoze trees, 369 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 6: to put up machinery made by slave labor in China, 370 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 6: to give us intermittent power that's sending this country break. 371 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: So it's mad. 372 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 6: Maybe there's a god in heaven. 373 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe. 374 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 375 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: The Greens policies and Advance, I think really should provide 376 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: a framework for the Liberal Party on how you tackle 377 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: modern politics because you look at what Advance we're doing 378 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: on social media compared to what the Liberals were doing. 379 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: And again I would have thought they would have learnt 380 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: from the Voice campaign, where Advance was so effective with 381 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: their campaign material. Now the Greens had a terrible night, 382 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: but in contrast, the Tills did pretty well, retaining all 383 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: their seats, although Zoe Daniel Seed of Goldstein is on 384 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: a razor thin margin less than one hundred votes last 385 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: time I checked, so there might be a recount there. 386 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: We don't know there, but she has claimed victory for now. 387 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: But with all that said that they've retained those seats, 388 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: but what little political clout they once had in the 389 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: Lake of Labour's thumping majority is gone. Labor Senator Don 390 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: Farrell said that the Tills can't blackmail us. Well, they 391 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: can't in parliament, but they're superfluous. They're just going to 392 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: be sitting around watching Labor past legislation. 393 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 6: Well, that's quite right, and the Teals have no policies. 394 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 6: They voted with the Greens for more than seventy percent 395 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 6: of everything that went up into Parliament and basically they 396 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 6: were an anti Liberal party group. And I'm very pleased 397 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: that in the seat of Goldstein you'll vote for the 398 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 6: Teals might have actually had some impact on having Soarry 399 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 6: Daniel re elected. But really they're totally useless as a group. 400 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 6: They are a party, but they're totally useless. 401 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: Well they are, but I'll tell you they may be 402 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: a silver lining with them as well. I think we'll 403 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: discuss that next time because we've run out of time. 404 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: Profe Sea employment. Thanks so much for time. 405 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 6: Thank you. 406 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: Still to come. Lefties losing it class President Donald Trump's 407 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: borders are threatens to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities. Armi 408 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: Horowitz has the greatest You're watching the Ruda Panney Show, 409 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: and it's time for lefties losing it And she's back, 410 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: the cackler in chief, Kamala Harris, the woman who squandered 411 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: one point eight billion dollars to lose every swing state, 412 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: the electoral college, and the popular vote. Well, she was 413 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: back doing what she does best, giggling like a giddy 414 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: schoolgirl on prom night. 415 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I. 416 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 9: Thank you. 417 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 5: Hi Andrew, Hi everyone, thank you all, thank you, thank you. 418 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: And Dougie's here too. Dougie's here too. Oh gosh. I 419 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: really thought we had been unburdened by what has been, 420 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: but here she is again. 421 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 10: Now. 422 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: This was her first major speech losing the election in 423 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: a landslide, and she chose to speak at an event 424 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: run by a mob called Emerge, an activist group that 425 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: recruits and trains Democrat women to run for public office. 426 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: And despite being VP in the administration that caused unprecedented 427 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: damage to the US from the border crisis where they 428 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: allowed millions to flooding illegally each year, to presiding over 429 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: numerous disastrous policies from Bidenomics to the botch withdrawal from Afghanistan. 430 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: Despite all that, Kamala was full of criticism of the 431 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: Trump administration, and she told the crowd of lefties losing 432 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: it that despite the election result, the country belonged to them. 433 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 8: This country is ours, doesn't allow whoever is in the 434 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 8: White House, it colongs to you. 435 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: We love a little stern Kamala, but really that ain't her. 436 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: She's the word salad queen. And she delivered another doozy 437 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: with this elephant. Yes, elephants, maybe they understand the significance 438 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: of the passage of time. 439 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 5: Who saw that video from a couple of weeks ago, 440 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 5: the one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo 441 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: during the earthquake. 442 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: Google it if you've not seen it. So that scene 443 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: has been on my mind. 444 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: Everybody's asking me what you've been thinking about these days? 445 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: Just wow, you dodged a bullet America. Though I can 446 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: say this about Kamala, the lady can dance. She's got 447 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: some moves, and she's learnt some more. It's part of 448 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: how she maintains what they say is her black joy. 449 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: So how are you in this moment maintaining your black joy? 450 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 10: All right? 451 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 8: Wait one to one. 452 00:26:52,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: To one to one, boss, all right, it's a little 453 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: wonder The White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt had this 454 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: to say about Kamala's big media day. 455 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 7: Just to add on the Kamala Harris point, I think 456 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 7: I speak for everyone at the White House. 457 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 8: We encourage Kamala Harris to continue going out and speaking, 458 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 8: do speaking engagements. 459 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: Let's have a little trip to Germany now and see 460 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: how the mad Berlinas are protesting against milk. Yes, milk 461 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: is apparently inhuman and in humane. Try to see if 462 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: you can figure out what's happening here. Let's stay in 463 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: Europe and go across to Sweden, the land of the 464 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: little doom Goblin. Herself gore to Thunberg, and though she's 465 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: moved on to being an anti Israeli activist nowadays, some 466 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: of her fellow countrymen are vandalizing to s outlets in 467 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: some muder and misguarded protests against what exactly and then 468 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: we had this performance at a Tesla dealership in Stockholm. 469 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: I think that's all the European tomfoolery I can handle 470 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: for one day. Let's go to Harvard. Now, you know, 471 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: the once prestigious Ivy League school, the pinnacle of academic excellence. 472 00:28:53,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: Let's see what leftism has done to that institution. Yep, 473 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: that's a Harvard graduation ceremony, which is producing graduates like this. 474 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 7: In this spirit, we call into space all those who 475 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 7: are not able to be present with us today. The 476 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 7: indigenous people who have been displaced and removed are people 477 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 7: of conscience who are incarcerated and living in exile. Our 478 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 7: north stars. Leonard Peltier, Mumi Abu Jabal, I've thought a 479 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 7: Shakur and every Palestinian prisoner who deserves rest, celebration, and 480 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 7: the community that we have. 481 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: The institution's commencement views the paper of a Harvard diploma 482 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: as an opening to the gates of enlightenment, but the 483 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: People's Commencement. 484 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 7: Understands that it is the spirit of resistance. 485 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 11: As exemplified through the martyrs of Palestine, who like the 486 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 11: path forward for us all. 487 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: Let's bring in journalists and filmmaker army Horowit's army. Those 488 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: scenes are incredible. Harvard has a problem, but it's hardly 489 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: alone in academia and having a significant self inflicted cultural problem. 490 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: Now, absolutely not. This is endemic across academia, unfortunately across 491 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: the United States. Look, Harvard has been bemoaning the threats 492 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: of Trump to cut off funding to the university. Well, guys, 493 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: you have a fifty three billion billion with a b 494 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: dollar endowment that's bigger than the national currency reserves of Argentina, Finland, 495 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: and Ireland combined. Okay, Ultimately, the only thing that will 496 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: change the behavior of these institutions is money. 497 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 10: Okay. 498 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that if look, they're private universities, 499 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: they can raise money. 500 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 6: On their own. 501 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: They take some cases one thousand dollars per student for tuition. 502 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: They can survive on their own. If they want federal funding, 503 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: they got to play the game. Okay, that's the way 504 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: it works, and money talks. That's what will make them 505 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: change their ways. The threat of money. 506 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 9: And you know. 507 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: All these rich conservative billionaires who over the years have 508 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: given hundreds of millions of dollars per person to have 509 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: their name in the school. I blame you, guys. I'm sorry, 510 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: this is nothing new. We have known about the cultural 511 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: problems of these universities for years. October seventh is nothing new. 512 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: Their support of October seventh and Hamas is nothing new. 513 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: This has been going on for a year, if not decade, 514 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: and you guys and we have been funding it, garbage in, 515 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: garbage out. It really starts, frankly, Rita, with the professors. 516 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: These professors have been teaching woke ideology, the idea that 517 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: colonizers need to be kicked out of every country, that 518 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: the United States is the most evil of all the countries, 519 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: that Israel evil. For years, Rita, you know I've been 520 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: on this show talking about my experiences and colleges around 521 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: the country. I would say I take a second seat 522 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: to no one on understanding how bad these universities are. 523 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: I have got to Yale Yale, where I've hidden cameras 524 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: and they were supporting the destruction of the First Amendment. 525 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: I've been beaten up on the campus of Keuney University 526 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: for raising an American flag. I raised money to murder 527 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Jews at San Francisco State University a few examples. This 528 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: cultural rock has been there for decades. It's got to stop. 529 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: Now borders. Tom Hoeman was asked about whether leaders of 530 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities who are harboring criminals could be arrested. Now 531 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: listen to his answer here. 532 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 12: So the President signing the executive order just this week, 533 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 12: he threatening to defund sanctuary city student policies, why not 534 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 12: just arrest leaders who are harboring and shielding legal aliens 535 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 12: actually terrorists from deportation. 536 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 11: Let's see what's. 537 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: Going white and say what's coming? Is that what we're 538 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: gonna say next? Because this seems to be the biggest 539 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: battleground right now in the US, this deportation policy and 540 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: the Democrats resisting it with everything they've got. 541 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: I love that guy. Oh my god, he was built 542 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: for this job. 543 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 10: Rita. 544 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: Okay, look, are we going to see arrest of democratic mayors? 545 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, although I would say turn about as 546 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: fair play, since all the Democrats were on the way 547 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: to arrest Donald Trump. So if we didn't go out 548 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: to arrest them, I don't know if I would be 549 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: crying into my cereal. Okay, but here's what's most likely, 550 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: is President Trump. Look, he pushes another another incredible executive order, 551 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: saying to these blue states, if you are sanctuary cities. 552 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: If you are going against federal mandate right federal policy 553 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: and immigration, we are going to withhold funding. 554 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 555 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: Now, he did this actually in his last term, and 556 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: it was overturned by a federal District Court judge saying 557 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: it was unconstitutional. Now, the legalities are actually very complex. 558 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I read that order, I read his problem with it. 559 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: It's not actually clear. It will probably end up going 560 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court and we'll get more clarity on it. 561 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't look. It's the domain 562 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: of the federal government to enforce its will and its 563 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: laws on immigration. That's the way the Constitution is written. 564 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: And if you are fighting against that, if you're going 565 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: against the will of the federal governor immigration, you are 566 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: committing a felony. Just ask Hannah Dugan or Joe Cano 567 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: to federal judges who actually try to harbor illegal alias, 568 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: what happened to them? They got arrested and legal So 569 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just be really careful when you're trying 570 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: to go up against the federal government. 571 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. 572 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. But the Democrats have had free ran that have 573 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: just been acting out with that fear of consequences. So 574 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: it will come as a shock because the law a 575 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: fare has gone one way. But if you actually do 576 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: break laws, real laws that are on the books, you 577 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: can't expect to be above the law. Now, one of 578 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: the most underreported stories, I think throughout the Trump administration, 579 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 2: this second term is the number of hostages, the number 580 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: of prisoners this administration has brought back. Here's the forty 581 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: seventh example. This is Tony Holden, who was working as 582 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: a US defense contractor in twenty twenty two when he 583 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: was arrested and imprisoned in Qwait's Central Prison on drug charges. Now, 584 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: the details of this case are shocking. Army. This man 585 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 2: was threatened, he was tortured, and a judge found that 586 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: the case was a sham. This is in Qwait. A 587 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: Kuwaiti judge said the officers presented fabricated conversation between themselves 588 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: and Tony Holden in English, even though they didn't speak 589 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: the language. Holden has expressed his gratitude after being freed 590 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: his President. 591 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: I want to thank you for well if you've done 592 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: for me and my family. 593 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 9: I just mentioned to Adam that I wanted. 594 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: You to know everyone on your team, everyone that have 595 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: supported this effort that you know that we greatly appreciate it. 596 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 11: Okay, I wanted you to. 597 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 9: Be able to meditate on have you effected personally lives 598 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 9: and the difference if you've made with a six year 599 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 9: old grandfather and father. 600 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: I mean, these cases are incredible and they should be 601 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: feel good moments for the whole country, regardless of what 602 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: side of politics you're on. How are they not getting 603 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: media attention? 604 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: Look, it is another example of the Trump presidential dividend. Right, 605 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: things that we didn't expect that we're getting no forty 606 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: cven hostages. That is a lot of people to be freed, Right, 607 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: And it took Trump one hundred days what Biden couldn't 608 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: do for four years. By these people, and the example 609 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: talked about it was an absolutely egregious example of an 610 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: American hostage innocently being held by a foreign government. Right, 611 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: it was public details about how they railroaded this guy. 612 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: Biden was able to do nothing. Look at Harkle's back. 613 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: Harkens back to Mark Foebel, Right, the American who's who 614 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: is released from from Russia after a year. It took 615 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: years for Biden to list him as illegally detained when 616 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: it was very clear that's what happened. He was a 617 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: hostage in Russia. But he got He got Griner released 618 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: with alacrity. Right, there was a problem here. Look, we 619 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: had no le We had very little leverage with Russia. 620 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: Who kwit. We have a tremendous amount of leverage. She 621 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: could have gotten him freed years ago. 622 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 6: Right. 623 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: We sell billions of dollars to Kuate every year in 624 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: military equipment. We have a ton of leverage with these guys. 625 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: Biden would not use it to get this guy free. 626 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: I have to wonder why it is so weird. Look, 627 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: it's another example or of Trump being president and the 628 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: world saying we better get in the same page as president, 629 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: otherwise we have a problem. 630 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: And we'll be talking about those trade deals in the 631 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: coming week's Army because it looks like they're going to 632 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: be struck very shortly, and we'll see that political and 633 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: economic realignment. Before you go, I want to bring you 634 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: this clip from the BBC chairman Samir Shah. He was 635 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: being interviewed and it was asked a rather simple question 636 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: I would have thought, but watch how he squirms when 637 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: he's asked about whether Hermas are terrorists. 638 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 9: One last question just for you as an individual, Samir, 639 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 9: do you consider her mass to be a terrorist group? 640 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: I have to answer that in terms of the way 641 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 3: we currently. 642 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 6: What do you think they are? 643 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 9: Do you think they're a convocation with happy little squirrels. 644 00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 10: I don't think that. 645 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 3: But but I'm here as a chairman. 646 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 9: Of the bbc'sist us an individual, I can tell you 647 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 9: what I think when I'm smiha right now to the world. 648 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 3: I am the chairman of the BBC, and we have 649 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: taken the view as a board that would continue to 650 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: use the word terrorists only with attribution. 651 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: That's the position we take. Me just incredible, and uh, 652 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: you say, the output of the BABYSA and it all 653 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: kind of makes sense. 654 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad it's all coming to light in England, 655 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: right and but it's really not getting much tractioned here 656 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: in the United States, you know. I find it so 657 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: funny with my Democratic friends say to me, Oh my god, 658 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: we hate the American media. Oh they're so a feat. 659 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: The American media doesn't tell the truth. You don't have 660 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: to go to Europe for the real to the outlass 661 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: of the BBC. Oh, shut up, Okay, the BBC is 662 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: the most biased organization, maybe in the world kind rather 663 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: than the Ala Ribia. Okay, that I would the BBC. 664 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: The BBC has been riddled with problems for many, many years, 665 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: but only now they come into light, thankfully. 666 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 10: Look, there's a. 667 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: Whole investigation about their open and a semitism of the 668 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: BBC done by the British government. The Telegraph came out 669 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: with a series of articles about BBC bias against Israel. 670 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, horrific bias. We're supporting October seventh, supporting Hamas, 671 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: talking about supporting the Holocaust. 672 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 6: I'm not kidding. 673 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: There was a journal a prominent journalist who appears on 674 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: the BBC all the time, who talked about thanks for 675 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: the Jews, the big burn, just like they were in 676 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 1: the Holocaust. Okay, as a documentary made by the BBC, 677 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: made broadcast by the BBC by somebody who's the son 678 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: of a Camas minister. 679 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 6: Right. 680 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: Look, and this guy Samir who will not simply and 681 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: so they finally said, okay, we're doing an investigation. 682 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 6: Okay. 683 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: And this guy here Shaw we just saw wouldn't call 684 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: Hamas a terrorist organization is the one who's overseen the investigation. 685 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to me. I'm glad it's coming to late, 686 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's I don't think it's getting no traction 687 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: or coverage here in the US. 688 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Horowitz, thank you so much for your time tonight. 689 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: Still to can't why King Charles is still refusing to 690 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: speak to Prince Harry. Kinsey's Scotfield joins me next welcome back, 691 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: joining me now celebrity and raw commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey 692 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: Prince Harry has given a new interview to the BBC 693 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: after losing his UK police protection case. The court ruling 694 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 2: against his claim that the security entitlements were downgraded due 695 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: to him being singled out for inferior treatment, upholding instead 696 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: that it was reasonable given that he had abandoned his 697 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: world duties and moved to the US. But here he 698 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: bizarrely claims that he is still in tire and will 699 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: always be titled. 700 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 10: You're no longer a working royal, a change in your status? 701 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 2: Do you not accept that from the court? 702 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 10: Well, my status status hasn't changed. The cant change. I 703 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 10: am who I am, I am part of what I'm 704 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 10: part of, and I can never escape that my circumstances 705 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 10: will always be the. 706 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: Same Kinsey just doesn't get it, does he. 707 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 13: I mean, it's unfortunate that it's taken Prince Harry forty 708 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 13: years to learn the definition of the word consequences. But 709 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 13: it was Princess Diana herself that referred to her youngest 710 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 13: son as thick, and here it was on full display. 711 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 13: Harry said himself in that interview that he has no regrets. 712 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 13: He does not regret it at all. He continues to 713 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 13: take no accountability for his own destructive actions. This was 714 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 13: something that was presented to him at the Sandringham summit. 715 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 13: If you step down, if you lead, you will not 716 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 13: Can you imagine quitting any job and assuming you were 717 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 13: going to still get the perks of that job. But 718 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 13: I will say that there have been whispers that Harry 719 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 13: has been desperately trying to connect with his father and 720 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 13: brother through old friends and retired courtiers. Neither have taken 721 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 13: the bait. But classic Harry, just like you heard there, 722 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 13: refusing to follow protocol mat Cansey. 723 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: The fallout from this case is extended to Harry's relationship 724 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 2: with his father, King Charles. Here he speaks about wanting 725 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: a reconciliation. 726 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 10: I would love reconciliation with my family. I've always know 727 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 10: there's no point in continuing to fight anymore. And is 728 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 10: that life is precious. I don't know how much longer 729 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 10: my father has. You know, he he won't speak to 730 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 10: me because of this security stuff. 731 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: Is that true? Is he refusing to talk to his 732 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 2: son because of security stuff? 733 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 13: No? No, Keep in mind, this is not the first 734 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 13: time Harry has claimed to the media that his father 735 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 13: cut him off. Megan claims Harry lost his father during 736 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 13: their original Netflix series, and Harry told Oprah Winfrey back 737 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 13: in twenty twenty one that the King wasn't taking his 738 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 13: calls for it, later to be revealed that Harry was 739 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 13: allegedly calling too harass the then Prince Charles about money, 740 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 13: with Charles reportedly telling Queen Elizabeth, I'm not a ATM. 741 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 13: Do you remember those reports? So this is not the 742 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 13: first time Rysarias said daddy won't take my calls. And 743 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 13: you know what, nobody can trust him, because when Prince 744 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 13: William and the King spoke to him after Prince Philip's 745 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 13: funeral and said, hey, pump the brakes, there's a way 746 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 13: for us to work this out. That's in like the 747 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 13: first chapter of his book. So how can anybody trust 748 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 13: this guy. 749 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: That's precisely right, and that's why it souls close to 750 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: the King. This tole the the Daly Mail that Harry's 751 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: BBC interview has made things worse, and the quote there 752 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: is it's not the King. It's not that the King 753 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: won't speak to him, it's that he can't. How can 754 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: you have a private and delicate conversation when you know 755 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 2: it's going to end up on a new special within hours? 756 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: And Kinsey, that's the point we've been making the King Charles, 757 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: if Prince William Kate, anyone talks to him or Meghan, 758 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: it's just more content for the next book or Netflix series. Now, Kinsey, 759 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 2: moving along, let's talk about the podcasters that are most trusted. 760 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: New poll has revealed that more Americans trust podcasters like 761 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: Megan Kelly and Joe Rogan then don't trust them. This 762 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 2: has caused all sorts of angst for left wing publications 763 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 2: like the UK Independent. They're aghast they've labeled Rogan a 764 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 2: conspiracy pedaling podcaster. They don't seem to understand Kinsey that 765 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 2: not only do these characters like Meghan Kelly and Joe 766 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 2: Rogan have enormous audiences, there is a trust there. They're 767 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: not seen as conspiracy peddlers, and frankly, some of the 768 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: so called conspiracy that Joe Rogan was maligned with were 769 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: all pretty accurate. During the COVID era, he was telling 770 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 2: us things that many in the mainstream media weren't or 771 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: other than programs like this, Yeah, we have to give 772 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: you a round of applause as well. 773 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 13: I think that people really do love Megan Kelly and 774 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 13: Joe Rogan's carefree approach. They they're pretty open about not 775 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 13: being experts on everything, and that's why they're open to 776 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 13: dialogue with people that are. And the mainstream media we 777 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 13: see today it feels like they're talking down to us. 778 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 13: Not only does it feel a lot of times like 779 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 13: they're lying to us, but it feels like they're talking 780 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 13: down to us. And I do think that that's a 781 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 13: strength when it comes to Megan and Joe, A sincere 782 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 13: curiosity and this care free nature of let's learn together. 783 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And you know what, they cover the topics 784 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: that so many in the media ignored, and they're important topics. 785 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: So it's not just sometimes I getting fake news, but 786 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 2: it's the selection process that you could question. Now, let's 787 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: hear from actor and neo Marxist loon Sean Penn, who 788 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 2: went on quite an insane anti Trump die tribe on 789 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: Jim Acosta's show. This is something. 790 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 11: Donald Trump is not, unlike the spouse of someone who 791 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 11: leaves him, perhaps for another, who then murders their former 792 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 11: partner because if they can't have her, nobody can. And 793 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 11: I think Donald Trump and his soleb sysm may have 794 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 11: that relationship with the world. 795 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: Okay, as far as analogies go, that one is pretty crazy. 796 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 2: Tell me more about Sean Penn's appearance on this particular program. 797 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 13: Well, it's just a Jim a Casta and Sean Penn 798 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 13: talk about a tea party or an elevator. I want 799 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 13: out of I want out of that elevator and I 800 00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 13: want on that crazy train Sean Penn. Where when is 801 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 13: the last time Seanpen has done anything riveting or compelling 802 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 13: that makes him an authority on any of this stuff? 803 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 13: It's crazy. And I won't get into the rumors about 804 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 13: Seanpen and Madonna's relationship that we're all over the tabloids. 805 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 13: But I don't think my president has been accused of 806 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 13: anything even remotely similar to what he. 807 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 2: Was accused of back in the day. 808 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 13: So pump the breaks, buddy. 809 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And this is a dude who went down 810 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: to Venezuela and was buddying up to the dictator down there. 811 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is beyond belief. Before you go, 812 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 2: we've only got twenty seconds. But Alec Boorwin's infamous film 813 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 2: Russ It's finally been released. Terrible opening weekend, twenty five 814 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Take that's nothing. This costs about seven million 815 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: dollars to make. 816 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 13: Insie, Well, that's not even going to buy Hilaria Baldwin 817 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 13: a new yoga bra and yoga matt. So I'm sure 818 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 13: that Hilaria is livid, but yeah, what what he expects. 819 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 13: This was the horrible experience on this set them continuing 820 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 13: to do the movie. The director, who was also shot, 821 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 13: said he wishes they hadn't continued with it. 822 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: And I think that this is a great example should 823 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 2: have abandoned the whole thing. They should have abandoned it. 824 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 2: KINSI Schofield, thanks for your time, and that's all the 825 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 2: time we have tonight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow 826 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: night with Douglas Murray. Mis Night is up next.