WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 26 November 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.000 Late General, Welcome late to pay. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:07.640 Well, good evening. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.840 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.360 Did you know that rocks can have agenda? In fact, 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.720 rocks can even be transgendered. That's what one Australian museum 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.319 is telling people. We'll talk about that a little later. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.800 Plus when we get to the paper as a convicted 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.400 murderer let out of maximum security so that she can 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.280 undergo IVF treatment, and an incredible story on the front 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.880 page of Tomorrow's Australian talking about the lengths to which 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:39.720 the Environmental Defender's Office went to block a new gas project. Honestly, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.839 you've got to read this story to believe it, and 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.520 we'll share it with you a little later. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.479 But at the beginning of the show, I thought it 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:45.879 might be. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.280 Appropriate for us to just take a moment to send 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.680 our thoughts and prayers to US government workers in the 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.800 State Department. They're having a really tough time dealing with 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.520 life since November six, Donald Trump winning the election has 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.760 really upset people in the State Department, so much so 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.200 that the State Department is providing therapy sessions to help 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.679 US government workers deal with democracy Republican candidate Darryl Isier 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.920 wrote to Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln after hearing about 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.600 these therapy sessions, saying, I'm concerned that the department is 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.640 catering to federal employees who are personally devastated by the 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.840 normal functioning of American democracy through the provision of government 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:31.000 funded mental health counseling, or because Kamala Harris wasn't elected 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:35.080 president of the United States. Now, there was an email 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.199 that went around to government workers encouraging them to take 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.080 part in these cry sessions, advising that they would help 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.920 them to navigate these challenging times. I have questions Calivin 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:51.960 is fought specifically. Firstly, this has to ask questions about 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.440 these government workers' ability and or willingness to work for 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.480 the Trump administration. I mean, they're undergoing mental health sessions 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.920 right now to cope with Trump winning the election in 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.400 a couple of weeks, Trump will be their boss. But second, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.360 it raises questions about their fitness to work. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:10.680 For the government at all. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.799 I mean, it's beggar's belief that you would employ people 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.839 in the government service who are so fragile. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.520 I mean, would you employ such people in your business? 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.000 Or else would they get a job by why they're 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.600 for the govern Well, they don't have the ABC in 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.640 the United States, so although MSNBC would probably pick up 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:28.400 some of these people. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.840 Third, what does it say about the. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.920 Culture of the bureaucracy in the United States that this 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.240 sort of behavior is not only tolerated, but it's actually encouraged. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.720 I know Donald Trump was criticized for talking about having 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.240 to drain the swamp. Well, this sounds like kind of 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:48.600 swampish behavior. And finally, what an insult to taxpayers that 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.480 they have to fund these infantile sessions for people trying 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.600 to cope and get over the results of a fair 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:57.720 and free election. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.160 Look, I think you're being a little hard, James Trump. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.760 Derangement syndrome is a real diagnosable mental illness. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.040 Of course they need treatment for it. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.320 I forget the name of the little book that psychologists 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.520 and psychiatrists use. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.520 But it ought to be in there because it is legit. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.760 I mean, it's got to be legit if they need 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.040 this sort of help, surely. I mean, it just makes 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:22.920 a mockery of things said. Imagine being that fragile that 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.359 upset that someone won a democratic election, that you actually 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.360 need a therapy session, and not just well, I'm going 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.440 to trundle down to a therapist. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.680 Myself to get some help. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.680 Clearly someone in the department has taken notice there and 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.920 so many people is moping around the office now that 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.720 we'd better do something about. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.840 It to try and lift morale. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.480 It is absolutely incredible, and it is exactly these people 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.400 who need Trump to be president just so we can 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.040 show what a bunch of lunatics they are. Seriously, this 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:55.800 is what Trump's going to do. He's going to rat 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.840 all of these people out. They won't be able to 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.640 work there anymore. Because imagine them. If this is what 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.720 they're like now, like you said before, Jane, imagine what 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.920 they're going to be like when Trump is actually president. 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.840 They're all hand in their resignations. He won't have to 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.080 send in Vivik Ramaswami and Elon Muster clean the joined up. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.240 They'll just walk out on mass Fantastic he's hoping. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:18.640 But these guys are meant to be non partisan government officials. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.320 I mean, this is what bureaucracy is supposed to be anyway. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.680 But I got to tell you, I love the difference 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.840 between Australians and Americans on this score, because we just 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.719 do not get that head up about our elections. Our 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.960 struggle is getting people half interested in our politics. People 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.920 go here to the polling booths because they don't want 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.200 to get a fine for not voting, because it's mandatory. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.320 Over there, it's very tribal. Everyone's at each other's throats. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:53.040 Even the most low info regime bots are very passionately 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:58.720 barracking for their team. Ozsies might drop a few expletives 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.599 if they're preferred. Prime Minister doesn't get in. Other than that, 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:08.599 nobody's going to therapy. Nobody cares enough. No one's shedding tears, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.680 no one's making complete fools out of themselves. We're just 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:18.560 not that emotionally invested in Australian politics. And I think 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:19.200 that's a good thing. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.360 Imagine a therapy session because Albanezi became Prime minister. You know, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.480 I need some help, I need some help. Please here, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.400 but elbows in charge. I mean, I'm sure there's someone 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.320 out there who take the money to give you the session, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.560 But you'd be laughed out of the place, wouldn't you. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.599 I remember years ago, I was at a seven eleven 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.520 and I'm you know, you know where they've got the 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.840 fridges and you're looking for a drink or whatever. And 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.880 there was this lady standing and she was talking and 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.599 she had an American accent. So I commented. And it 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.520 was when Clinton was running against Trump, and I said, 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.960 so who you supporting? And she said obviously Clinton, and 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.680 she said you want to win? 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.400 I said, I actually kind of like Trump. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.680 And she literally turned away and made a noise and 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.200 stormed off. Was my first inkling to man, they really 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.280 take this seriously. I'm just hoping for a sausage when 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:04.479 I go. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.839 To vote, you know what I mean. We've been like 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.440 playing all these clips of people sabotaging each other's pictures 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.800 of their preferred candidate out the front of their houses. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.320 There's been people who then put shocks shockers on their 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.000 signs so that when someone drove along to get rid 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.360 of their signs, their tires were flattened or they got 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.920 an electric shock because they were trying to rip up 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.520 these I mean, none of that happens in Australia. No 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.320 one cares. I know, half the people are like, oh 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.680 wait a minute, is there an election on them? Because 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.680 I just saw a crowd outside of a school on 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.280 a Saturday, So better pull over, better vote. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.760 Our current government. Maybe we should care a little. 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.200 Bit more to I'm not I'm not saying. I'm just saying, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.560 in terms of the kind of meltdown and the kind 0:06:55.560 --> 0:07:03.080 of social lack of cohesion around every single American election, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.520 we simply don't have that. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.640 There's not that tribalism in it, which in many ways 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.920 is a good thing because it's a lot of trouble 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.000 and we wouldn't go around trying to shoot our would 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.880 be presidents either, Isn't it fantastic? 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.680 But it's no wonder, you know. Of course, they were 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.440 told that Trump would be literally Hitler, so of course 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:20.680 they need therapy sessions. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.280 I mean, imagine being told that Hitler was going to 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.640 run the country. Let's come back to Australia now, where, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.680 of course one of the great warriors, warriors, Well, she 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:31.720 might be a bit worried. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.040 Actually, warrior was the word I. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:39.000 Was going for against nonsense that is being perpetrated upon children. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.280 Of course, ginder transitioning is Pauline Hansen. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:43.320 She has been on. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.520 This for quite some time, and for the fifth time 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.680 she has tried to ask the Senate for an inquiry 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.320 into the use of puberty blockers on children, and for 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.040 the fifth time it has fallen over. Why is it 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.280 that our senators just seemed to be that they have 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.080 no inkling, no interest in investigating anything whatsoever. We can't 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.240 have an inquiry into puberty blockers, we can't have one 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.920 into babies born alive, we can't have one into COVID. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.520 Oh imagine us doing our jobs. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.600 And actually looking into the things that are going on 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.320 in this country. No, they have no curiosity whatsoever. They 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.120 just go along with the ideology. But of course the 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.560 ideology as we know when it comes to gender transitioning 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:32.280 children in Australia is now well behind the rest of 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.720 the world. Paulin Hanson pointed this out in her post 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.800 on x after her fifth attempt failed. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.240 She said, why won't they listen? 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.800 For the fifth time I have stood in the Senate 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.520 and called for an inquiry into the experimental use of 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.360 puberty blockers on vulnerable children. Every single time I have 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.560 asked for an inquiry, it's been because new evidence has 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.120 come to like showing the risks and harm these treatments 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.440 posed to kids. This time, even New Zealand has joined 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.240 the growing list of countries including the UK, Finland and Sweden. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.360 Raising the alarm. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.920 While other nations are waking up, the Albanezy Labor government 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.040 and the Greens remain asleep at the wheel, refusing to act. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:09.920 And that is correct. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.280 New Zealand is now reviewing its policies around this stuff 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.079 and is inviting public submissions. Back in March, the NHS, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.400 the public Health service in the UK, stopped the use 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.840 of puberty blockers on children. Denmark did the same thing 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.760 in September last year. It is changing across the world. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.200 The Tavistock Clinic, the biggest gender transition clinic in the UK, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.600 has been shut down. This is happening all across the 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.760 Western world, and yet here in Australia we still continue 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.000 to use puberty blockers on children and continue on as 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.880 though there is nothing wrong. How is it that the 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.600 rest of the world is starting to say and without 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.160 any issue. I mean, even the New York Times, for 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.360 heaven's sake, is publishing pieces now about people who regret. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.000 Transitioning their gender when they were children. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.240 I mean these are stories that two three years ago 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.199 a paper like The New York Times would never have touched. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.440 Now it is a mainstream issue. But here in Australia. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.880 It still seems like it's off with the fairies zone. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:11.480 I forget that. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.680 The topic that's dominating discussion in the Senate right now 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.280 is the welfare of children. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.280 Our senators have been looking at this bill to. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.319 Ban sixteen year olds and younger from looking at social 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.360 media because we're really concerned about what social media is 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.720 doing to the mental health of our young people. So 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.120 you would have thought this is a pretty good time 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.240 for Pauline Hansen to raise the issue of you know, 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.559 should our young people be put on puberty blockers and 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.440 medicalized because of gender ideology? Maybe we should look into 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.600 that since we're so concerned about the welfare of children, 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.920 and yet on this issue our senators are entirely incurious, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.080 and as you said, Caleb, our senators must be the 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.080 least curious people on the planet. But sadly it's not 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.440 a lack of curiosity born of just pure ignorance. It's 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:01.000 deliberate in curiosity because they don't want a discussion on 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.400 the welfare of children and what gender ideology means, because 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.360 that might lead to a discussion on what is a 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.640 woman and then the woke mod will be after them 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.240 if they say what they actually believe, and so they 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.320 just rather not go there, and they sacrifice our kids 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.520 so they can hold firm to their ideology and their position. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.559 Same is true with babies born alive. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.800 We don't want to talk about babies born alive because 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:22.960 that would entail. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.120 A discussion of late term abortion, and. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.319 That might start to get people asking awkward questions about 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.080 the ethics of abortion. So we'd rather just pretend that 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.319 these babies born alive aren't really humans because their existence 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.680 threatens our ideology. Therefore, we will just turn our back 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.200 on them. It's shameful. It is that they are so 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.040 incurious about the issues that really matter. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.600 But like you say, they're not incurious. They know enough. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:47.400 It's delivered. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.160 These things are brought to the Senate, they are told 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.040 case in point by the person presenting it. In the 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.079 case of babies born alive post abortion, that was Senator Babett. 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:02.800 In this case, this is Pauly J. Hanson's fifth attempt 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.920 to say we are behind the rest of the world now. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.240 And as she just said in that quote that kayleb 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.160 bred out, every time I bring this again, it's because 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:16.079 I have even more proof we are failing our kids. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.079 If you really want to protect them. Let's take another 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.280 step back, by the way, and just ask ourselves why 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.080 the amount of kids presenting with gender dysphoria. He's over. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.760 It's absolutely exploded. It is now two hundred percent what 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.560 it once was, and even bigger numbers than that are 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.040 being recorded. This wasn't always the case. How about we 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.320 ask ourselves where that came from. And let's not forget 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:48.040 these guys are ignoring the experts. When the CAST review 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.360 came out in the UK, there was an emergency stoppage 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.599 of the use of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.720 in the UK basically from that day was less than 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.320 a month after that the mandate was handed down and 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.640 they stopped it all together. But here in Australia, child 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:14.320 psychiatrists and child pediatricians, child pediatricians that would be an 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:20.320 impressive child indeed have been. They've been stood down. They've 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.679 paid the ultimate price. What you're looking at right now 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.600 is Gillian Spencer who in June of last year, she's 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:32.079 a senior child psychiatrist, she was stood down for raising 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.200 the alarm of this gender affirming care that means giving 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:41.240 drugs to kids that have very real issues around bone density, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.959 about chemically carstrating them. That's what some people call it, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.480 because it messes with their fertility for the rest of 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.599 their life. Who knew you can't just press pause on puberty. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.240 It simply doesn't work like that. Another legend. Also in 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.960 June of last year, pediatricians Dylan Wilson shout out for him. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.320 He called for an immediate moratorium on the use of 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:12.280 puberty blockers. He said, quote, there is no evidence of 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:17.920 benefit end quote in terms of prescribing this to children 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.960 who are struggling with gender dysphoria, and that, in a 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.320 nutshell was the CAST review's findings. They said, if there's 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.800 any evidence that these drugs help these kids, it is 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:34.800 with quote very low certainty end quote that anyone would 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.160 even say that. So if anyone wants to make the 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.560 argument of oh, no, well, it's very heartless to suggest 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.400 that we wouldn't treat gender dysphoria in this way. No, 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.560 it is heartless to suggest that we must and that 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:53.240 we should just blindly keep doing so despite all the evidence. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.920 How many more experts do you have to have screaming 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.840 about this before? And we're not talking about anything drastic, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.560 it's just an inquiry, what do you worry that we'll find? 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.720 Which is incredible because there is the story out of 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.960 the US father he's in Texas, his wife's moved to 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.160 California with their son, twelve year old son, and he's 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.880 been talking about this for a few years now in 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:21.000 the media. Where his wife left took the son with her. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.080 The son says that he is now a girl was 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.800 born James now goes by the name of Luna, and 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.960 the father, Jeff Younger, says that his wife was essentially 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.680 trying to transition their child from a very young age. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.200 I mean, he's saying that she was trying to transition 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.800 him from the age of two and wanted to get 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.360 him into a gender clinic. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:43.560 At the age of five. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.520 But this case has now run through a court in 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.640 California where she went to in Los Angeles, and it 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.560 said that the mother will now have full custody of 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.400 their son, which essentially gives her the right to then 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.000 go off and transition her son. And you can imagine 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.400 what the father, Jeff Younger thinks of all this. He says, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.200 I lost all parental rights to my son. Goodbye, boys, 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.280 Perhaps we will meet you when you are adults. California judge, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.320 you ha gave my ex wife authority to car straight 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.600 my son James. All contact with my boys must be supervised. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.040 I won't do that. I send letters and gifts to 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.360 my sons, my ex is not required to give them 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.800 to the boys. I cannot post pictures of my sons. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.000 I mean, what an. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.200 Absurd situation where a judge is now making a decision 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.640 about what is medically good for a child when there 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.720 is clear disagreement between two parents. But again, you know, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.200 it's a case where someone else gets to step in 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.560 and say, well, I'm telling you how your child ought 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.720 to be parented. This is something for the parents to 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.840 deal with. They can go and seek arbitration or whatever. 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.040 But of course, if a court decides that they're on 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.120 one person side over the other because they have a 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.280 particular ideological bent, which is often what happens in these. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:00.160 Sorts of cases. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.760 There goes a child having irrevocable changes made to their 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.000 body via medication. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.760 And that does seem to be the issue in this 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.280 instance where it seems like the mother does have an 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:15.440 ideological bent because from the age of two she maintained 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.200 that James was actually a girl. Because James had expressed 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.880 an interest in girls' clothes, and she had started down 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.560 the road of transitioning. And this is a clue as 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.439 to why things are so polarized in the US, because 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.600 in Texas she wasn't allowed to go and get this 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.040 child transitioned. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:33.600 So she just moved to California. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.920 Yeah, where now she's protected as she goes to transition 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.639 the child against the father's wishes. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.639 But just quickly back to the Australian Senate. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.040 We've got a situation this week where our senators are 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.080 saying little Sally can't go on Instagram because it's far 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.639 too dangerous for Sally to go on Instagram. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.200 But it's fine for Sally to. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.080 Have puberty blockers which will stop her developing breasts. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.200 That's absolutely okay. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.080 She can never bear children, and. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.040 We're supposed to take these people as serious. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:05.359 Yeah, welcome to Australia, where if you're under sixteen you 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.479 can change your gender, change your sex. We're more than 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.480 happy for you to believe that if you're a boy, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.359 you can be a girl and vice versa. But no 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.480 Facebook for you, little man, little woman. I mean, how 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.960 bizarre this is? Clown world, Ladies and gentlemen. But let's 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.040 go to Scotland now, where even more clown world. The 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.440 question of what is a woman has made its way 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:34.159 all the way to the Supreme Court in London. Get 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:39.280 this headline. The SMP led government, that's the Scottish National 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:44.000 Party are insisting that a trans woman is a woman 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.080 for the purposes of the UK Equalities Act. Now, this 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.440 first kicked off when a feminist group by the name 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:57.159 of Four Women's Scotland said, look, you've got this act. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.280 It's called the Gender Representation of Public Boards Act, which 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.160 was designed to make boards fifty to fifty in terms 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.880 of male female representation. But in that act their SNP 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:14.119 government defined a woman as quote anyone living as a 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.600 woman end quote. Well FWS wasn't taking this sitting down, 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.840 and they successfully, they met with success in the courts 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.480 when they took the government to court, saying well, hang 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.560 on a minute, this flies in the face of Westminster 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.639 laws that define a woman a bit differently. So what 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.360 are you going to do about that? So on and 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.240 so forth. Now we find ourselves in the Supreme Court, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.960 Well we will tomorrow. So you'll have the Scottish government 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.919 arguing that anyone who says they're a woman is a woman. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.760 Anyone with a gender recognition certificate, because we all know 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.880 a piece of paper can change chromosomes. Ladies and gentlemen. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.120 This is the twenty first century. What a wonder. They 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.159 will argue that anyone they say is a woman is 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.480 a woman, and fws are there to bring the case 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:12.320 saying no, they aren't. The representative from the Feminist Group, 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.080 Susan Smith, told The Daily Mail, if we win, then 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.080 we get a very clear cut idea who is protected 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.080 and when. If we lose, it would make it almost 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.960 impossible to keep a lot of spaces and services female 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.639 only or indeed male only, and Westminster will have a 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:36.359 real mess to untangle. Susan Smith makes the very apt 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.600 point that you can't get a certificate to say that 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.679 you have a disability you don't. Heck, we'd all have 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.440 acron stickers. Who doesn't want those roomy parts. You can't 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.040 get a certificate to say you're a different age than 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.479 you are. Sure a lot of ladies would make use 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.840 of that, wouldn't we if we could? But why then? 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:59.119 And this is what the Feminist group is saying. You 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:03.080 guys sitting in your ivory tower making laws for the 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.160 rest of us now have to answer the question why 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.520 is sex protected in the first place? Like these other categories, 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:16.639 we have different advantage, not advantages, but different laws pertaining 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.560 to pensioners because they need different kinds of help and assistance. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:25.360 Those with disability they get different kind of help, assistants, etc. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:26.840 So on. 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.280 I can't wait to see the outcome of this. 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.199 The feminist group are absolutely correct, and I said this 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.959 last night, that you've got to answer this fundamental question. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.360 Is a woman defined biologically or is it defined by 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:44.120 the bureaucracy. Once you answer that question, everything flows from there. 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.040 But of course what a woman is cannot be defined 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.920 by the bureaucracy because it will be the opposite of biology, 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:54.639 and you can't have in law unreality that everybody knows 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.960 is simply not true. So it'll be interesting to see 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.560