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Speaker 1: This is the fitsy in with her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: Alex Warren caught up with him backstage at the Howden

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Speaker 1: Absolute Honor. I walked in and he was sound checking

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Speaker 1: and performing ordinary. I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: So he was performing just to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was the only one in there, and

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Speaker 1: then he started to He practiced getting the clap going

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Speaker 1: from side to side and thot, oh, do I join in?

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Speaker 1: I can't leave the man hanging him. The only one

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Speaker 1: in here was massive empty horde and I'm standing there

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Speaker 1: on Alex Warren's on stage. What's fascinating about this guy?

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Speaker 1: And I've told you I hate young achievers fits. He's

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Speaker 1: twenty four years old and his story is extraordinary because

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Speaker 1: he's had a lot of success as a social media

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Speaker 1: influencer and that's how his music really started. But he

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Speaker 1: also had a very sad upbringing. He lost his dad

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Speaker 1: to cancer when he was nine years old, and then

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Speaker 1: he was booted out of home by his mum when

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Speaker 1: he was about seventeen. She was an alcoholic and passed

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Speaker 1: not long after that. So, really is his parental roles

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Speaker 1: weren't there? So anyway, walked in the conversation backstage just

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Speaker 1: sort of took off naturally, and he spoke about a

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Speaker 1: phone call he'd received from a friend with a hypothetical question.

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Speaker 1: So we picked the interview up from there.

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Speaker 2: Alex Warren in the house, Hello, please give it up

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Speaker 2: for Alex A. Love your story, thanks man, love your

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Speaker 2: story about it. I do too funny enough. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people, a lot of people are always like, damn, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I got this crazy call the other day.

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Speaker 2: So one was like this guy who I somewhat knows

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Speaker 2: that one He was like, crazy question for you. I

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Speaker 2: was doing gardening and I wanted to ask, would you

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Speaker 2: trade all of this for your parents? And I was

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Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ, So who's who?

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Speaker 1: Cold? Was it? An interview was.

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Speaker 2: Just a friend of mine who like in passing and

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Speaker 2: playing his wedding yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ship, and he just was like, how did you answer that?

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I thought about it. I've thought about

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Speaker 2: that all the time, and we can do this in

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Speaker 2: the interview. But I all the time, I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: like would I And I don't think so. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to trade, you know, I never would have

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Speaker 2: met my wife. I would have never had these friends,

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Speaker 2: I would have never had this career, and truthfully, if

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Speaker 2: my parents were still alive, I think it'd be the

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Speaker 2: biggest piece of shit in the world. It's so true.

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Speaker 1: Everybody says that about you if they were around that. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm wild, hypothetical, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy. But I'm where I am today

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Speaker 2: and I'm who I am today because of my parents passing.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a musicer, I wouldn't have my wife,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have anything. And I think that's important to

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Speaker 2: think about.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: I love who I am today. I love my life,

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Speaker 2: I love my friends, I love my wife, and I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't trade it for anything.

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Speaker 1: Do you know That's one of the great things that

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Speaker 1: I've loved watching you too, especially with the success. You know,

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Speaker 1: when when Ordinary was released and you saw I mean personally,

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Speaker 1: when I heard the song for the first time. There's

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Speaker 1: not many songs I an'tkon. It happens to me once

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Speaker 1: every five years, yere, I go, wow, what's that when

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Speaker 1: I hear a song for the first time?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Because we hear so much music in the radio game.

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Speaker 1: But I remember thinking, shivers, that's really special. That's that's

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Speaker 1: something and it was amazing. Two days later my wife

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Speaker 1: called and said, you'll cross this song and I went, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am, I get it.

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Speaker 2: And this man to see how.

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Speaker 1: Blown away you were by everyone's reaction. Yeah, like even

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Speaker 1: in the early days where someone had stopped you or

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Speaker 1: made know the words, no way.

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Speaker 2: I still do it. I still well. It's so funny

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Speaker 2: because like I never this has all been very new,

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Speaker 2: and they're like, I can't I put this song out

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Speaker 2: seven months ago, almost eight months ago or eight months ago? Wow,

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Speaker 2: February seventh, so we're in August, right, yeah, almost nine

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Speaker 2: months The song came out ago high so packed. That's

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Speaker 2: But also on top of it, I expect it one

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Speaker 1: I mean we're backstage at the Horden because the in

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Speaker 1: War wasn't big enough, so I got moved from the

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy. There's like thready thousand people in Q

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Speaker 1: Absolutely wild.

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Speaker 2: Do you know.

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Speaker 1: I remember we didn't years and years ago when Edgehewan

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Speaker 1: at a pub, and he'd done the maths on it

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, if I have one good album,

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Speaker 2: He said that to me, he said, I never thought

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Speaker 2: was I was so happy, and so I didn't all

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Speaker 2: the rest of that was always just trying to make

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Speaker 2: my favorite songs like that was like kind of what

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Speaker 2: that he's done that, I think he just has fun

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Speaker 2: with the music, which I think is so inspirational, and.

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Speaker 1: So with the with Whichie podcast. But the other thing

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Speaker 1: you can't call it. I don't like calling it lucky,

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Speaker 1: because timing is of course important, But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: there's that I'd had to use this because it's a

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Speaker 1: show and that's you know a thing, but there's an

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Speaker 1: back and you touched on your story with your mum

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Speaker 1: and dad, but you know, I've heard you speak about

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Speaker 1: mate's dad felt bad because he shot you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so he gave me a car.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm laughing because I laugh about it.

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Speaker 2: All the time. What's even crazier is he officiated my wedding.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny. It was just with him, funny enough

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Speaker 2: He let us stay at his house. I was like, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: My best friend Ailey, she her and I have been

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Speaker 2: best friend sinceventh grade and now she's like COB's best friend.

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Speaker 2: And so it's like, it's really cool to kind of

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Speaker 2: to be kept, You had to be kept laughing.

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Speaker 1: You were shot and then you lived in the back

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Speaker 1: shot to fame. Oh that's cool planning one.

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Speaker 2: Can write that down and think about for sure, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll give him writing credits.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, to convince your girlfriend now

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's coming back to that

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Speaker 2: Got, Dude, I got, and I know you don't like lucky,

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Speaker 2: So I'll just say, like, the path that has been

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Speaker 2: been really cool. But also that your outlook and life

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Speaker 2: so excited because that means like something beautiful comes out

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Speaker 1: Quite often when something and we're getting deeper here, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you're in that moment, you know there's a

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Speaker 2: I think my life is very indicative of that. Like

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Speaker 2: Are you watching tonight, you'll see there's a segment we

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Speaker 2: And so we focus a lot on.

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Speaker 1: That because the beautiful thing, like what I love about

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Speaker 1: and you're very quickly paint a picture. So if we

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Speaker 2: We compare it to people leaving Christianity, right, So that's

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Speaker 2: They just hook up. And I'm like, what the heck

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Speaker 1: Life gone?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so like that is really interesting to me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like every lyric like you could

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Speaker 1: Because that's like, to me, that's such a phenomenal part

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Speaker 1: that's the art of songwriting. But you know what I

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Speaker 1: the pop up you did ed Sheer and with Coachella, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do only mete him that day. Yeah, how did

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Speaker 2: Ed looks at the charts like Ed. Ed is very

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Speaker 2: like the beautiful thing about Ed is like he's so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so my team reached out to his team,

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Speaker 1: Is the wife on tour or if you both the boys?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I had. June twenty first was my one

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Speaker 1: How do we celebrate?

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Speaker 2: Did I say twenty first?

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Speaker 2: It was supposed to be the ninth, and I thought

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Speaker 2: ruined my sixth nine anniversary. You just think you went

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Speaker 1: What did you guys do?

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Speaker 2: We we went to sushi. Our our favorite thing is

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Speaker 1: That is the dream in the day.

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Speaker 1: Can you promise me that you'll continue to write the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually I'm planning coming back here next year.

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Speaker 2: just think it's no one's anticipating me to leave Easter

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Speaker 1: Well. Amazing just to walk into sound check and here

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Speaker 1: ordinary this afternoon, mate and come wait for the show.

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Speaker 1: It sounded pretty good to me. Thank you, Alex Warren,

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Speaker 1: your legend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sir for having me.

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