WEBVTT - SuperCoach Draft: TOP 18 RUCK RANKINGS | Drafted 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.480 Get everyone Darci here off the top of the show, 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.160 just to let you know that we did record this 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.920 before the Sean Darcy news on Thursday, February six, if 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:14.080 you haven't heard that already, Sean Darcy unfortunately having ankle surgery, 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.960 a minor surgery by all reports, but a surgery. Nonetheless, 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.360 Freeman was hoping he's going to be available for the 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.520 early rounds of the season, but he's insignificant doubtful round one. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.680 Just factor that into the discussion. It's quite ironic looking back, 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.840 so I didn't want to take it out loving Shawne 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.800 Darcy in the way he's been looking this preseason. But 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.680 unfortunately that is a setback that's going to affect some 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.040 of our rankings in particular mind, but it shouldn't affect 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.120 Lefdogs too much, who we are going to be talking 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.600 about on the show today, as he did factor in 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:49.720 the Big Fellow's injury concerns within his ranking. So anyway, kickback, relax. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.640 I hope you enjoy the show, if you have been 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.680 enjoying the extra draft content, if you're a super coach 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.400 drafter and you're obviously are, if you're listening to this show, 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.639 please rate and review on Apple's wherever you're listening, give 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.399 us a like on YouTube. The support really does help 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.600 because we are trying to build this podcast up. You've 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.200 been noticing lots more shows this preseason, so I really 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.200 appreciate the support. If you could do that, that would 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:20.800 be greatly appreciated. But sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Gooday, 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.800 and welcome back to Drafted, the official super Coach Draft 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.520 show right here on the official podcast. Bet it's your 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:34.040 boy Dossie alongside my fellow super Coach Draft enthusiasts. We've 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.760 got Patch and Lefdog back for another episode and we're 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.720 going to be talking all things ruck rankings on this show, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.679 going through Leftdog's top eighteen ranks. We're going pretty deep 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.040 in the ruck department, Leftdog, but there are some leagues 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.120 out there that like to go deep or dare I 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.280 say go the two rucks like. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.880 I mean, do it at your own peril. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.440 That at the flex position will severely impact how early 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.280 or late ruckman get taken in your draft because there 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.840 are just not that many to go around. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.720 Yes, we have been going through our ranks. We started 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.880 with the midfielders. If you missed that podcast that was 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.720 a longer one. I expect this one to be a 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.880 little bit shorter than that one. But joining us again, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.080 we have Patch. Welcome aboard Patch. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.200 Hello, delighted to be here to chat about my favorite position, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.079 the rucks. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.080 Well, without any further ado, let's get started. We're going 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.560 to go through picks one to five, to start with 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.560 five to ten and so on. Let's go. Let dogs 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.799 start with your top five rucks for season twenty twenty 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:37.680 five in Super Coach. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.240 Yes, yes, my. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.720 Top five rucks this season. It'll already surprise people. Number 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.000 one is Max Gorn in Tier one on his own. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:52.280 Number two is Tristan Cherry in Tier two on his own. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.800 And then rounding out the top five in tier three 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.800 is Tim English, Brodi Grundy, and Tom Conning. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.160 All right, keen to talk about this. I'm at the 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.880 top tier, even though we might you know, as it 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.840 gets deeper, it's not as exciting a discussion with the rucks. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.160 But at the top end, these guys are the uber 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.440 Uber premiums. Right at the top end of your draft. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.120 You might be picking Maxicorn pretty early, even Tristan Cherry. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.000 I do want to talk about that top two debate. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:23.160 Gorn versus Cherry, because Cherry finished the season on fire 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.480 last year, was there any consideration? I mean, I see 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.080 here as you said your tears, You've got Gorn on 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.800 his own. There is an argument that Cherry should be 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.720 on the same tier level I reckon this year, lector. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.360 There is an argument. There is an argument. So I'll 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.840 start with Maxicorn. He's consistent. Every single week, he'll give 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.720 you a five marks, A couple of them will be 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.240 behind the ball, he'll contest the ruck, he'll have a 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.920 couple of tackles, and you know he'll have eighteen to 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:55.080 twenty disposals. Maxicorn is just consistent. Maxicorn. Your only potential 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.560 question mark over him is games played, because he's always 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.000 going to miss one two games. But I think he'll 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.240 be the highest averaging ruckman this year, and I've got 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.320 Cherry slightly lower. So yes, he played more games than 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.040 Maxicran last year. Yes, he did score more total points 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.919 than Max Gooran last year, and yes I did have 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.640 him at a one last year all year, so I 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.760 understand he's good. However, my biggest question mark over him 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:29.039 is the ability to recreate what he did last year, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.960 because he had a massive jump and the main one 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.680 that people are talking about is the tackle numbers. He 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.400 jumped from a career average of about three tackles a 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.080 game to seven point five tackles per game last year. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.120 Was that an outlier or was that the new norm 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.839 for Christian Cherry? A slight step back and that tackle 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.560 number alone will impact his output this year, and I 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.240 suspect it's going to be pretty hard to maintain that 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.599 massive number. All the other stuff, the mark, the disposals, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.680 the rough contest, I think that's all consistent for Cherry, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.640 But those tackle numbers, there's a few points in those. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.880 It's big. I'm keen to hear your thoughts Patch as well, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.280 the Gorn versus Cherry debate right at the top of 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:15.960 the draft. I mean, you'd be happy with either of 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.520 these guys, but where do you see that landing. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.560 I've got Cherry at one and Gorne at two, and 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.039 I've got them in the same tier. So I think 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.480 you know Cherry is still he's still a baby by 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.920 ruck standard, He's still what twenty five twenty six coming 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.480 into this season. I think as much as you know 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.640 that there's every chance that the tackle numbers could be 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.920 an outlier and he could see a drop off in tackles. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.880 I think there's still that natural improvement to come from Cherry, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.080 and even if that's a five percent improvement across every 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.640 every stack category, that's still going to be enough to 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:55.560 offset I think no any any major drop in average 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.279 or total output of points. Maybe he drops you know, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:02.000 one or two average you know, over the season, or 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.960 he drops you know, fifteen hundred points compared to last year. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.640 But I still certainly see as much room for upside 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.760 as I see as room for downside in Cherry's growth, 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.800 and I'd be happy with either of them. If I'm 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.400 splitting hairs, I'm probably going Cherry just because of the 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.560 games played. I don't want one of those games that's 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.880 missed to be a final or be a must win 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.480 game to get me into the top eight, or you know, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.560 a game that's going to avoid me getting a punishment 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.960 at the end of the year. I think I'd just 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.599 rather the consistency with you know. And I know Cherry's 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.680 had some injury problems way back, but I think Gorn 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.640 is getting on a little bit. He worries me a little, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.360 just that tiny bit that father time might start catching 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.080 up with him. I think if not this year, then 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.520 certainly by next year we'll be having a pretty big 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.160 discussion about father time in MAXICRN. But I think I'm 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:50.719 struggling to split them. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.680 You can clip just DOSSI Max corn is the Lebron 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.960 James of AFL, and what I mean by that is 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.400 I don't think Age is going to touch him. I 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.080 think he's smart in how he uses his body. He 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.039 rests on field and a lot of his points come 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.080 from the stuff he does behind the ball, taking interscept marks. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.080 I'm not worried about Max Gorn in the slightest, but 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.840 I can understand that one or two these are the 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.360 two best rockman I think in. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.320 The comp Yeah, I currently have Chariot number one, but 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.800 I also have them in the same tier. But it'd 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.080 be interesting, Yeah, like that, Teering them separately, I think 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.200 is a distinguished point there for your draft. There, Lefdog 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.120 that you're happy going Gorne, you know, much higher than Cherry. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.040 Seemingly, while we're on these two, where do you take 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.040 them overall? Do you do you go in the top three, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:43.440 Do you go bond Decos Gorne for you or do 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.160 you look at a Ruckman in the top five what's 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.080 your strategy for rucks? Do you like punting them? Do 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.720 you do you like grabbing one early and not worrying 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.960 about it? Do you just middle around and pick up 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.360 a like a Lloyd Meek or whatever in the middle, Like, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.080 how do you go about picking a ruck. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:05.440 For me Gorne or Cherry? I'm taking with my first pick, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.800 unless i have pick one or two, in which case 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:13.120 I'm taking BoNT and Decos in almost every circumstance. If 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.080 you don't get a Gorne or Sherry with your first pick, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.280 then I think you can probably wait to your second, third, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.040 fourth pick onwards to get at ruckman. But I think 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.760 these two guys do separate themselves from the rest of 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.880 the pack when we look back at season twenty twenty five. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.320 So yeah, jump early on one of these two guys. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:30.880 If they're your first player, I think you're going to 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.720 be happy. The other guys you can probably let slip 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.480 a little bit further. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.160 Let's talk about a couple other players in the top five. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.320 Tim English, You've got a three bit of a down 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.559 year for his standards, but you've got him bouncing back. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:43.839 Yeah, I do. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.959 I think he's still really solid. Yes, last year was 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.040 a bit of a downslide, but. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.400 He's still got that dog's midfield to hit it too. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.960 Even with trelaw Out, who we spoke about in the 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.800 last podcast. There's guys like Matt Kennedy and stuff that 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.880 have come in can potentially fill roles. So I think 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.200 he's still got the opportunity there. Another year under his belt, 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.080 I think I think he'll be solid. I'm not sure 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.439 he's going to necessarily get back to that one hundred 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.600 and twenty eight average he had in twenty twenty three, 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.880 but somewhere around the one ten range would. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:19.320 Not shock me. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.480 Right, Tom da Cooney, you're a blues man. We've had 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.880 lots of discussions about Tom d Cooney over the past 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.400 few years as someone that's owned him in a keeper league. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.960 What are your thoughts this year? There'll be some people 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.240 not naming names, are very very high on him this year. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.720 What point would you be taking him? What do you 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.920 see his output being? Do you see Carton playing him 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.920 as a sole ruck? What's talk to me about the 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:51.319 wonderful hair that is attached to Tom de Cooney? 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.360 Why do I have him three currently in my ranks like. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.040 We have him three because when he's a solo ruck. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:05.200 He's really, really, really good for Carlton. Now, past me 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.800 might have said that he's not a ruckman and that 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.280 he'll end up playing behind the ball as an intercept 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.440 defender in his career, and I still think age thirty five, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:20.440 Tom de Conig might do that. It's upside the biggest 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.480 query I have because I've got him fifth, so I 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.720 think he can score the points. I think he has 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.000 the role. The de lingering question I have in the 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.920 back of my head is just Fossy consistently says he 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.480 wants the two rucks setup. I don't necessarily know if 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:40.120 they've been rolling with that this preseason. Tom Deconning announced 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.040 himself last year as the number one a sort of 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.240 ruckman at Carton. I do think on a holistic view, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.040 he's actually better off as as sharing the rock duty 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.360 with someone else and being that energizer rather than the 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:59.080 slog ruckman throughout the whole game. If Pitto plays then 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.160 and you take him with your fifth pick, then you've 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.280 ruined your draft. If Pindo doesn't play and you take 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.120 him with your fifth pick, then jeez, you might have 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:07.959 won your draft. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.400 It's just so tough. I don't know what Voss he's 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:10.839 going to do. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.760 Yes, well, panicking super Coaches is the Carlton social media 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.439 team putting out there today. Pitto is heading into the 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.320 twenty twenty five season fit and firing with a muscle 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.319 emoji and putting out a video and interview with pitten 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.480 out about how he's came to impact this year. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:27.480 So don't pick Tom. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:30.839 I might have to bump him down a bit, just 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.880 do that risk. But no, Yeah, I think that the 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.680 ceiling is tantalizing. Yeah, whether we get it for a 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.760 full season and whether it is solo is the question mark. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.640 So fair enough for putting in five. It's probably going 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:42.960 to be an up and down season. But you still 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.640 be happy taking him. You've got Grundy at four, happy 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.199 with that, just replicating what he did last year. Now 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.560 let's move through. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.800 So sorry, I just very quickly. I know we've got 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.240 to rush. But Brodie Grundy was in classic last year, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.080 was maligned and traded out and traded in and traded out, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.160 ended up being the fourth. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.240 Yeah ranked ruckman. He's just really really good. That's why 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:03.679 he's fourth. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.080 Alright, So after Tom deconning, who I think is an 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.160 upside play, you've got the following guys. So you've got 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.360 Toby Nan Curvis sitting at six in Tier four. Also 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.679 in Tier four is Roand Marshall and Lloyd Meek. Now 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.680 rowand Marshall on a per game basis is probably the 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:21.560 best of this bunch. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:22.920 This one. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.120 This ranking was done after he had that preseason injury concern, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.960 so he's been bumped down Nank. He is going to 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.240 miss three weeks every year, but he's going to score 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.560 really well in the games he does play. And then 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:41.240 Lloyd Meek just had a sneaky good season last year 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.280 for Hawthorne. And in the same way back when we 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.880 talked about midfield, as Dosh you talked about the upside 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.240 in that Hawk's midfield, I think Lloyd Meek really has 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.640 an opportunity here. Average one hundred and five last year 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.720 across nineteen games, he plays twenty three games, he becomes 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.920 like the fifth best ruckman. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.520 Yeah, it's a huge call. I think the role Marshal. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.600 Did you see the news coming out today that you 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.240 know Ross Lyne, I think it was reported on AFL 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:13.119 dot com said that he was definitely he will definitely 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.240 play Round one. So some of the injury concerns that 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.480 you might be speaking about. Does with that change just 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.920 quickly on Role Marshall, With that change your adjust your 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.520 rankings from him down at seventh. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.920 It might bump him up a couple of spots. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:31.000 So Roma, every year he's gone, he's played twenty three 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.360 games the last two years for an average of one 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.760 hundred and thirteen across those two years. That's elite numbers. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.480 So if Ross is not lying to me, Roma jumps 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.760 up above Tom to Conne. He becomes a safer pick. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.360 I still probably take Brodie Grundy and Tim English ahead 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.000 of him, but again, he becomes a tier three player 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.520 if he's fit. It does concern me that they signed 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.880 a mature age ruckman and they've got seemingly a lot 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.000 of rock depth, like just old dudes who really want 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.200 to play. I don't know, I've got some question marks 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:03.360 over what Ross says as well. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.120 Yeah, Pat, you've got any thoughts on the six through ten. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.200 Look, I think Roald Marshall's quite good. We haven't you know, 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.839 Lecky didn't talk about nine and ten there, but we've 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.880 got Jared Witz and Sean Darcy there in the fifth year. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.720 I think Seawan Darcy's you know, obviously there's the injury cloud, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.200 which makes it a bit hard. I do really like 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.280 Seawan Darcy, especially if you can pick up Luke Jackson 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.440 with him. I want you to talk for a second 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:35.480 about that. You know, handcuffing as a concept is around 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.680 for a draft as where you take the you know, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.600 the number one ruckman if it's Roald Marshall and you 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.120 take Harry Boyd very late, or if you can take 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.280 you know, Seawan Darcy and Luke Jackson. I'm intrigued as 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.440 to what your thoughts are around Shrek. You know, I 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:53.320 had a difficult last year with injury. Would you consider, like, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.840 if he's if he's fit and firing and dominates pre season, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.400 does that move him up? Do you need to take 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.800 Jackson if you're taking Darcy as well? What are your 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:01.960 thoughts there? 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.600 Yeah, Sean Darcy's had one season in his career where 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.160 he played more than twenty games, and in all those 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.280 other season he averages about fifteen. So I just can't 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.280 believe that he's fit and firing. I know he's been 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.640 over to Qatar, maybe somewhere he's back. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.840 And just before you continue answering, I would just love 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.760 you to go to Instagram, find Sewan Darcy's Instagram and 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.040 look at his latest post. Because me, after seeing that, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.240 I've adjusted him right up. He's not gone below top 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:38.000 five for me now after seeing the big tank Sean Darcy, 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.680 the man is shredded. The man is an absolute unit. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.360 This preseason, he was training straight back in the main 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.160 group upon returning from Qatar. So look, we know what 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.320 elliot yo happened after he went to Qatar last year, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.240 not excluding this pre excluding this preseason for Paul Elliot Yoe. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:59.600 But I bounce back, rejuvenated season. Gosh, I think Big 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.920 Shrek could be in for a big year this year. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.480 I'm not shaming him, but it looks like he's lost 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:05.440 forty kilos. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:07.560 He looks like a different person. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.240 Yeah, So I guess worthy injuries caused by the weight 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.160 that he was carrying or they caused by something else. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.040 That's the question you've got to ask. In terms of 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.960 handcuffing Patch, I think you're going to struggle to get 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.760 both Sean Darcy and Luke Jackson just because of how 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.600 thin the forward line is. And Luke Jackson won't feature 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.280 in these rankings because we're considering him a forward, but 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.400 The concept of handcuffing is really important, and it's the 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.280 reason I've had Riley O'Brien and Kieren strawn in my 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.240 keeper league for the last six years, and I'm just 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.440 waiting for Strawan to break through and get into that 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.360 main Adelaide Crow's team. But basically, as you said, the 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.160 concept is if one misses, you've got the guy that's 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.680 going to replace him already on your team. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.640 I am. I've got a differing rank with you as well. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.200 On Jared Witz. I'm off Jared Witz this season. I 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.400 reckon he's going to start making way for Ned Moyle 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.480 and Ethan Reid as well to mostly forward and chop out. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.800 I reckon he'll kind of break down at some point. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:06.520 He's done that the last couple of years, and I 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.639 just think Moyle will just hold his spot. Which that's 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.120 I'm not picking Ned Moyle. I'm not drafting Ned Moyle, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.720 but I'm right off Jared this year. I reckon this 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.600 is possibly the last hurrah we see for the big Man's. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.480 Yeah that's tea. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.119 Yeah, it could go either way, couldn't it. Because if 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.840 he's a joint and if he's performing, he's locked into 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.400 the best twenty two and he's not moving. But yeah, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.439 if they decide to, I mean, Moyle is a rising ruckman, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.360 they want to keep him, keep him there as well 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.560 long term. So that's a really tough dilemma for the Suns. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.159 But I think I'm probably along with lek In, I 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.159 think I have him. I still have wits tenth in 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.399 my ranks, just because, yeah, if he is fit, and 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.200 I know it's a big you know, it's an if 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.720 nowadays rather than a guarantee, but he still just does 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.920 all the things that you want out of a super 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.240 coach ruckman, and you know, the hit outs to advantage 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:58.400 in particular. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.959 But yeah, I've got no evidence. It's a gut feeling 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.960 that I'm like, I just don't I'm worried. I don't 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.280 want to pick him if he's still there with my 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.199 you know, if he's no one, you know, he's the 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.600 fifteenth ruck there and he's still there, I'm picking him, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.320 but I'm not. Yeah, I don't know, I'm just not 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:15.919 feeling it. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.000 Yeah, I just don't think a dimmer led team that's 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.480 bored in guys like John Noble Daniuriali to impact straight away. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.040 They're desperate to play finals. They have they have to 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.720 play finals. I know everyone's going to say that they 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.080 have to play finals. I just don't think a team 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.880 that's been as aggressive in the off season as they were, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:38.880 he's going to potentially hinder their their ceiling by playing 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.600 developing ruckman over a guy like Jade Witz. I just 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.159 think if he's on your list and it's for a 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.160 range of things, it's for it's for not only his skill, 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.920 but it's for his leadership and given how dimm has 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.160 behaved in the past with his ruckman, you know, giving 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.399 Nank the captaincy, I think he was still there when 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.960 Nank was captain. I would just suspect that is locked 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.880 into play as many games as is available for Yep. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.359 Yeah, let us know where you've adjusted. Sean Darcy two 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.800 in the comments as well after looking at his Instagram posts. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.040 So he's top five for all of us. 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:16.080 I've heard hit us up with that eleven to may 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.119 as well go eleven to eight een. Just hit us 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:19.800 with the rest of them. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:20.440 Yep. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.680 Tier six at eleven, we've got Darcy Cameron, followed by 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.879 Kieran Briggs. Tier seven and number thirteen and fourteen is 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.280 Riley O'Brien and Oscar macanony. There you're you know what 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.240 they're going to give you tier and then Tier eight 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.640 through nine is Jordan Sweet, Sam Draper, Maddy Flynn, and 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.200 Toby Conway. That's your top eighteen. And I think that's 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.040 one ruckman from every team as well, ideally the main 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.120 ruckman for each team. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.920 Yeah, it's a solid list. I think Kieran Briggs could 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.760 be I haven't heard too much out of his camp. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.720 I thought I saw somewhere he was injured at one 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.439 point in the preseason. I don't like I need to 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.480 look more into that. I'd be keen on a Kieran 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.800 Briggs b out's back season, and he'd be probably one 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.359 that I'd be very interested in drafting a bit later 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.960 because he's probably off a lot of people's radars. Had 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.120 a stinker of a start last season, kind of came 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.200 home a bit stronger. But Briggsy could be one that 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.879 I'd be interested taking in those sort of mid to 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.800 later rounds if I wanted to kind of not completely 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.119 punt rucks but get a guy a bit later on. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:27.080