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Speaker 1: before the Sean Darcy news on Thursday, February six, if

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Speaker 1: enjoying the extra draft content, if you're a super coach

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Drafted, the official super Coach Draft

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Speaker 1: show right here on the official podcast. Bet it's your

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Speaker 1: got Patch and Lefdog back for another episode and we're

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Speaker 1: going to be talking all things ruck rankings on this show,

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Speaker 1: going through Leftdog's top eighteen ranks. We're going pretty deep

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Speaker 3: That at the flex position will severely impact how early

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Speaker 4: Hello, delighted to be here to chat about my favorite position,

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Speaker 1: Well, without any further ado, let's get started. We're going

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Speaker 1: start with your top five rucks for season twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Top five rucks this season. It'll already surprise people. Number

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Speaker 3: one is Max Gorn in Tier one on his own.

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Speaker 3: Number two is Tristan Cherry in Tier two on his own.

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Speaker 1: All right, keen to talk about this. I'm at the

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Speaker 1: You might be picking Maxicorn pretty early, even Tristan Cherry.

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Speaker 1: Gorn versus Cherry, because Cherry finished the season on fire

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Speaker 1: Tim English, You've got a three bit of a down

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Speaker 2: So don't pick Tom.

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Speaker 1: I might have to bump him down a bit, just

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Speaker 1: So fair enough for putting in five. It's probably going

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Speaker 3: So sorry, I just very quickly. I know we've got

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Speaker 2: Yeah ranked ruckman. He's just really really good. That's why

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Speaker 2: he's fourth.

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Speaker 3: Alright, So after Tom deconning, who I think is an

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Speaker 3: in Tier four is Roand Marshall and Lloyd Meek. Now

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Speaker 3: rowand Marshall on a per game basis is probably the

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Speaker 2: This one.

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Speaker 3: This ranking was done after he had that preseason injury concern,

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Speaker 3: so he's been bumped down Nank. He is going to

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Speaker 3: Lloyd Meek just had a sneaky good season last year

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Speaker 3: an opportunity here. Average one hundred and five last year

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge call. I think the role Marshal.

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Speaker 2: It might bump him up a couple of spots.

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Speaker 3: So Roma, every year he's gone, he's played twenty three

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirteen across those two years. That's elite numbers.

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Speaker 3: So if Ross is not lying to me, Roma jumps

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Speaker 3: up above Tom to Conne. He becomes a safer pick.

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Speaker 3: I still probably take Brodie Grundy and Tim English ahead

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Speaker 3: if he's fit. It does concern me that they signed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pat, you've got any thoughts on the six through ten.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think Roald Marshall's quite good. We haven't you know,

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Speaker 4: Lecky didn't talk about nine and ten there, but we've

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Speaker 4: I think Seawan Darcy's you know, obviously there's the injury cloud,

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Speaker 4: about that. You know, handcuffing as a concept is around

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Speaker 4: to what your thoughts are around Shrek. You know, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sean Darcy's had one season in his career where

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Speaker 1: This preseason, he was training straight back in the main

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Speaker 1: not excluding this pre excluding this preseason for Paul Elliot Yoe.

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Speaker 1: Shrek could be in for a big year this year.

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Speaker 3: I'm not shaming him, but it looks like he's lost

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Speaker 3: forty kilos.

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Speaker 2: He looks like a different person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I guess worthy injuries caused by the weight

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Speaker 3: That's the question you've got to ask. In terms of

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Speaker 3: handcuffing Patch, I think you're going to struggle to get

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Speaker 3: The concept of handcuffing is really important, and it's the

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Speaker 4: I am. I've got a differing rank with you as well.

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Speaker 4: On Jared Witz. I'm off Jared Witz this season. I

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Speaker 4: reckon he's going to start making way for Ned Moyle

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Speaker 4: just think Moyle will just hold his spot. Which that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's tea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could go either way, couldn't it. Because if

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Speaker 1: But I think I'm probably along with lek In, I

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Speaker 1: think I have him. I still have wits tenth in

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I've got no evidence. It's a gut feeling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think a dimmer led team that's

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Speaker 3: They're desperate to play finals. They have they have to

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Speaker 3: Nank was captain. I would just suspect that is locked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know where you've adjusted. Sean Darcy two

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Speaker 4: I've heard hit us up with that eleven to may

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Tier six at eleven, we've got Darcy Cameron, followed by

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Speaker 3: they're going to give you tier and then Tier eight

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Speaker 3: through nine is Jordan Sweet, Sam Draper, Maddy Flynn, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a solid list. I think Kieran Briggs could

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Speaker 1: that I'd be very interested in drafting a bit later

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Speaker 1: I'd be interested taking in those sort of mid to

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Speaker 4: Agreed, Sorry, I absolutely agreed, And.

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Speaker 1: here I have Darcy Cameron quite a bit higher in

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Speaker 1: much going to have to be the guy that's in

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Speaker 1: there all the time. Now. I don't think they're going

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Speaker 1: I've got at eleven, You've got him down fifteen, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jordan Sweet. I'm very intrigued in I

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Speaker 4: think he's a number one role, but like just the

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Speaker 4: Do they play him as a backup right to the Sweet,

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Speaker 4: dislike him, but yeah, I'd be wanting to take him

431
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Speaker 4: really late in a draft on that front, Darcy Cameron,

432
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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I've got him at six, I've

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Speaker 4: got him ahead of Nank, I've got him behind Marshall.

434
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Speaker 4: But I think you know, we know what we're going

435
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Speaker 4: to get last year will basically be the same this year. He's,

436
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Speaker 4: barring injury, we should play every game, and I just

437
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Speaker 4: I just think he's kind of reliable and neat and

438
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Speaker 4: I'm happy to pick him up with my you know,

439
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Speaker 4: if he's there at my eighth pick, then I'll do

440
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: a little bit of a swerve and then stop worrying

441
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Speaker 4: about the Rucks.

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Speaker 1: Quick bombers thoughts on Sam Draper as well patch as

443
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Speaker 1: a bombers man.

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Speaker 4: I want Nick Brian to be the number one ruck.

445
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Speaker 2: Me too.

446
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Speaker 4: I think Draper is a better forward. Is he a

447
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: good forward? I don't know, but he's a better forward

448
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: than Brian is. So I think what Brad Scott will do,

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Speaker 4: as a lover of playing two rucks, will start Draper

450
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Speaker 4: forward and start Brian in the ruck and then sub

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Speaker 4: Brian out at three quarter time. So I'm not touching

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Speaker 4: Essendon's rucks and if you are, then you're insane.

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Speaker 3: No, They're the probably the hardest rock lineup to read

454
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Speaker 3: because and as someone who has handcuffed them in one

455
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Speaker 3: of our super coach keeper League's patch, I just need

456
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Speaker 3: one of them to be good, not both of them

457
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Speaker 3: to be bad, which is what I've experienced today.

458
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Speaker 4: That don't be changing.

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Speaker 3: I've just got them in there at sixteenth Sam Draper

460
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Speaker 3: because I think as a starting spot he's probably slightly

461
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Speaker 3: ahead Brian. You're going to be able to get Brian

462
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Speaker 3: later in drafts, but I've got him just ahead of

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Speaker 3: Matt Flynn for reasons, and ahead of Toby Conway because

464
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Speaker 3: Toby Conway might not even play for Geelong. He should,

465
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 3: but it might still be Rectadly. I don't even know

466
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Speaker 3: if he's on an AFL list anymore.

467
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Speaker 2: He might still play.

468
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Speaker 4: It could be Blitzerves, it could be samda Conning, it

469
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 4: could be they could bring Mitch Edwin's in, Brad Close

470
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: could play in the rock for them. They're just as

471
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 4: bad as Bevo and they should got more flak for it.

472
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Speaker 3: The Jordan's sweet point you made Dossi is interesting. If

473
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: he does have that license, I probably actually push him

474
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Speaker 3: ahead of Riley O'Brian and Oscar mcinernie in that you're

475
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: not what you're going to get to here, because his

476
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: issue is that he's basically the Pido of Port Adelaide

477
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Speaker 3: in that he's locked to you are in the center

478
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: square and anything else is not allowed. If he's got

479
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: a bit more flexibility than yeah, he probably does jump

480
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: in value above those slightly older battlers in O'Brien and mcinennie.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a growing interest after that quote. So that was

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Speaker 1: on the keep leg. It was an interview. It was

483
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Speaker 1: only like a ten minute interview, so if you can

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Speaker 1: to listen, go check out that pod. The other thing

485
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: that I would say, let's just quickly touch on Matt

486
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Speaker 1: Flynn because he's talked about massively in Classic Circus. You've

487
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Speaker 1: got him at seventeenth, So essentially you're saying, if you

488
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Speaker 1: are deciding to punt rucks and pick up a ruck

489
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: super late, you reckon Matt Flynn may be available there,

490
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: and maybe the classic sort of impact could hurt how

491
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: high he does go. But I think you'd be pretty

492
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: safe getting him late. What do you think he can

493
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: produce for us this year? You've got him seventeen.

494
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Speaker 3: If you're picking Matt Flynn, you're probably also taking like

495
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: a I don't know, a Bailey Williams and sitting him

496
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: on the bench someone like that. I'm not really sure

497
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: the reason I've got him there. I think he does

498
00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 3: get first crack at the main rock roll for West Coast,

499
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: but we know what.

500
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: The risks are. We know the risks are.

501
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: He's played four games, nine games, twelve games, and twelve

502
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: games in the past. He's had flashes of moments where

503
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: he's scored well, He's never averaged above eighty eighty eight

504
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: in his career in a season. But if you're getting him,

505
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: if you're punting Rucks and he's available there late in

506
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 3: a draft, you take him at he's going to average

507
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: eighty plus points, which.

508
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: Is decent between the games.

509
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and sleepers. We're going through sleepers again.

510
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Speaker 1: Let's avoid sleepers on this one. Yeah. I think there's there's.

511
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be probably happy taking anyone in that

512
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: sort of top ten range. I think drafting a ruck's

513
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: always just confusing to me. I don't know where the

514
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: best spot to draft him is. I think I'll be happy,

515
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: as you said, Cherry or gone early. If not, I'm

516
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: almost happy sort of punting the ruck usually, and I'll

517
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: just find that sweet spot in the middle of a

518
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Speaker 1: draft where to pick up my guy, and I'll be

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Speaker 1: picking Saw darst week, Sean Darcy first round, Seawan Darcy

520
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Speaker 1: first round, or that's sweet Jordan sweet spot later on. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: the rankings next week. We're going to be going through

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