WEBVTT - #145 Anthony Minichiello: Sydney Roosters legend on rollercoaster career, longevity tips & untold tales 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.160 Hi, my Boris, and this is straight talk, ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.640 Anthony Minchel, Well, we're straight talk. You were three hundred 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:07.960 and two, orbo. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.280 Got three or six, and now Jared's clips everyone three 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.280 hundred and seven. You would have eclipsed all of them 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.480 if you hadn't had those massive injury periods. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.599 Mind you maybe if Jared added up all the time. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.160 Well that's true as well. He had a few suspensions. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.040 He's been suspended the first six years. I didn't get injured, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:25.880 and I've played more games than anyone in a four 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.200 or five year period where we were making Grand finals 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.160 and I was playing for the NIS in Australia. But 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.080 two thousand and six it all come crashing down. Chronic 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.159 information bubbling beneath my body was out of control. You're 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.720 eating out, you're drinking alcohol, prescription medication through the week. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.240 So something had to give. Right two back operations, I 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.320 had a smaller disk buldge in my thorasic and then 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.159 I've got this huge dis bulge in my neck and yes, mate, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.800 just got your report back. It's showing that you're like 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.880 one millimeter away from your spinal cord. That's when I 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.160 really started to dive into nutrition and the role it 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.640 plays in restoring the body. I've got four steps with 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.440 my nutrition that I've still follow now. So the first 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.800 one is Russ has been my whole life basically. You know, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.080 I grew up as the youngster of the Roosters and 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.440 they've certainly made me the man that I am today. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.399 An Okay, wait mate, thanks MAV, I appreciate it. Well. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.440 We're straight talk and as put together by the Sydney 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.520 Roosters Business Club, and we want to thank our sponsors, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.320 are and my HR thanks very much. And our live 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.120 audience is pretty good. A live podcast. I've known one 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.000 of this since last one did of a live podcast 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.920 I did with Bit of Landers had that he told 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.600 me at the end of the podcast that I sort 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.000 of hypnotized him and he said to me, I started 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:47.880 talking about things I never thought I'd ever talk about, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.160 and and I wouldn't let him into the edit room either. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.960 So welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks very much. So Ricco was. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.080 Through in one games correct, yep, you with three hundred 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.360 and two, Albo got three or six and now Jared's 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.920 eclipse everyone three hundred and seven. What do you think 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.880 of Jared's game for his three hundred and seventh game. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.120 I mean, in terms of the way he presented himself 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:12.840 for the game. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.560 It was pretty fitting on it he got sent for 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.160 ten blood running down his face. It was just a 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.440 perfect setting for him to break the record. You know, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.200 I watched him come over from Manley when he was 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.120 a young kid, and you could just see this sort 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.520 of ferocity in his eyes when he crossed that white stripe. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.440 My loveliest bloke off the field deal met him as well. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.600 The way he treats the sponsors and fans and around 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.200 the people around the club as soon as he gets 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.519 on the field. He's an absolute beast. And to sustain 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.560 that from a young age to his age now, I 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.040 don't think I've ever seen a front row do that 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.639 for so long, which has been pretty phenomenal, and yesterday 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.080 it was just an amazing day. You know, we are 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.600 the only club to have four three hundred game players 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.000 club in history, so that's really proud moment for the 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.320 club itself. No one's ever achieved that. Have three three 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.720 hundred gamers, four thre hundred gamers at the club. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:12.600 I mean, we're going to do a bit a bit 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.640 later but to be frank with you, you would have eclipsed 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.320 all of them if you had those massive injury periods 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.600 for a quite a long time. And mind you, maybe 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.440 if Jared added up all the time, that's true as well, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.320 had a few suspensions he's been suspended, maybe he might 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.760 have eclipsed everyone by an even greater amount as we 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.840 are today. When I was walking here down George Street 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.600 to walk past a rejuvenation clinic, and the first thing 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.960 I thought of is when he never looks like he 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.080 gets any older. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.000 Actually looks like a few like you get younger. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.720 To me, you and Wingy, I don't know what it 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.839 is for you and Craig wing Ye both looks looks 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:54.000 like you're still twenty eight or something. And to a 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.640 large extent, and it's important, it's an important topic for 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.360 me actually, but to a large extent about it healthy 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:00.360 healthy living. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:03.760 I want to go back to when you were a 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:04.560 young kid. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.600 Was this something that your family, because you know, you 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.320 were an hour and for healthy living within our club 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.360 and egg outside of our club as a young kid, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.280 was that something that was drummed into you or was 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.280 that something you learned? 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.200 Well, it was basically just natural. So we've got Italian heritage. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.239 So we grew up on five acres just outside Liverpool, 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.039 southwest of Sydney. Was it a farm, Yeah, well we 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.280 had cows, we had chickens and eggs and fruit trees 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.360 and veggie patches and all that type of stuff not 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.880 to go to mark, just just for us basically. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:34.159 Yeah. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.480 So the Italian culture right is to grow your own, 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.240 cook your own if you've got the room at home. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.120 So that's that's what we did. That's what we That's 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.599 what the Italian culture does. And my mum's a pretty 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.200 duncle cook. So she used to cook all that whole 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:51.440 food nutrition up for myself and the family, my younger brother, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.919 younger sister, and without even knowing it how healthy it was. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.600 It was just how we lived our lives, you know. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.880 So and now I think back to my childhood. You know, 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.840 I never never got sick. I played many of different sports, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.040 never seemed to get injured at all. And then I 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.000 signed with the Ruses at sixteen, and I wasn't a 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.080 big guy in the NRL. I was like I had 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.440 to push heavyweights and eat heaps to keep muscle bulk on. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.760 And you know, when I made my first grade taboo 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.360 at nineteen. You know, the first six years I didn't 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.760 get injured basically at all, and I played more games 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.720 than anyone in a four or five year period through 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.599 that period where we were making grand finals and I 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.040 was playing for nas in Australia. But it all come 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.520 crashing down and when I was twenty. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.680 Six seven six six, Yeah if I but if I 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.760 go make Anthony minute Cello as a kid growing up 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:46.880 in Liverpool on five acres and you know you're Mark's 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.680 your younger brother, and you're a sister as we younger sister. Yeah, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.800 younger sister, she's the youngest. Yeah. I often thought to 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.760 myself if I was trying to create a perfect specimen 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:00.640 of a fullback. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.320 And I've often thought this, I mean, apart from having. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.640 The genetics to play the position and like something like 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.200 you or Teddy and all those slated they've got some 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.880 genetics associated with this, I would have thought. I thought 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:20.279 to myself, gymnastics is a good bass totally. Who got 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.479 you into doing gymnastics? 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:22.080 What's the story. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.920 So that was my main sport as a young kid 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.240 was gymnastics, gymnastics and. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.920 Little athletics and Mark as well. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.520 So no So Mark started league when he was six 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.760 or five, almost like just went straight into rugby league. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.040 But I didn't want to play rugby league at that age. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:41.120 And my auntie's sister was a gymnastics coach out at 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:45.040 Macquarie Fields, that a big gymnastics center out there, and 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.600 my mum just enrolled me and I just started doing 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:52.400 tumbling and trampolining at the age of six seven and 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.039 I did that from six to about eleven. And I 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:00.200 was going to State for tumbling and a state competition 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.960 for tumbling, and I was going to State for long distance. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.719 I was cross country. I was three k fifteen hundred, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.360 so I had a good aerobic base from athletics, but 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:15.160 then I had sort of the power core foundation from gymnastics, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:20.720 which gymnastics game. I think gymnastics and athletics and to 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.800 an extent ballet as well. They're all foundation sports that 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.600 really springboard you into other sports as you get older. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.600 So when I went into rugby, I started league at 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.640 ten because of my mates at school. So we all 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.800 joining the local rugby league team. Come and join, soing, oh, yeah, well, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.880 my brother plays, I might join, So I joined, and 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.400 you know, the aerobic fitness I felt I was fitter 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.560 than everyone because of the long distance running that I 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.960 was doing, And then I had this sort of quickness 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.920 and sharpness that was developing because my brother went to 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.400 State for one hundred two hundred and I went to 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.000 State for fifteen hundred and three k. And as he 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.000 got older, I had a gross burd He moved into 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.880 the forwards and I sort of started to get faster. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:04.840 And the explosive power definitely come from gymnastics. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.440 I remember you when you're playing, obviously, remember your plane. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.640 When you're playing, You're used to bounce off people, and 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.400 I want to talk to you about it about that 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.000 at the moment, I mean, I wonder if that was 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.480 actually a strategy. So I don't know whether you just 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.480 hit people and bounce back because of the weight difference, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.559 or whether you actually hit people and bounce and turned 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.880 and then kept running as a part of your strategy. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.760 Has attack the lestra about it now, And it was 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.600 a pretty obvious thing, and Teddy does that a little 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:27.880 bit too. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:28.880 Was that a thing? 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.720 Was that an ethan Minochello like tactic? 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.679 Well, you know, gymnastics, they teach you how to fall 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.920 and dive, and like you know, when I was six 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:43.080 seven eight, I was sprung floor in the gymnastics center 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.720 and they're teaching you how to just jump and dive 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.199 and roll and like they teach you all that type 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.760 of stuff and tumbling and all that, so like being 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.040 in space and twisting and all that just come natural 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.640 to me. Like jumping trampolines and doing backflips and all 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.319 that type stuff was just normal because I did it 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.760 for when I was so young. So you know, that 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:08.040 teachs just spatial awareness, like you know, speed as well. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:09.800 It creates power. So when you're in a game of 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.559 rugby league, if you've got that acceleration that creates the 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.920 power that creates the tackle breaks and then being able 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.760 to find little gaps and fall on your front and 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.880 always land on your front, the twisting motion as you're 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.880 going down, that all was natural because I did it 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.520 over and over again in gymnastics, So it wasn't like 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.240 a thing. It was just because of the repetition in 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.160 gymnastics and the tumbling and the trampolining that I did 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.280 and diving and falling and rolling and all that type 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:45.560 of stuff. Definitely brought it over to the league circles 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.120 for sure, But it seems to. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.680 Me that you had a bit of a You hit 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.800 a pretty big engine as well. Playing fullback, you've got 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.840 to have a b engine, and you know, because fullbacks 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.000 cover more kilometers than anybody else in the game. Do 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.840 you put down your bea engine too? Again, as a genetics, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.079 did Mark have a big engine? He was a big dude, 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:05.600 But I don't know whether you had a big, big 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:06.160 engine on him. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:06.600 Maybe you did. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.240 But do you put that down to the fact that 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.240 you were more of a distance runner, because often, I mean, 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.199 I remember Jay Gibson. You just say to me, the 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.440 best rugby league player is someone who can do four hundreds, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.200 run four hundreds like at speed. If you can run 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.520 four hundred like not a not one hundred meter sprinter, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.240 but a four hundred runner, do you put much weight 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.040 in that discussion and the fact that you were a 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:31.960 fifteen hundred runner. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:37.520 Well, the long distance running definitely helped my cardiovasciar fitness, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.560 there's no doubt about it. But because growing growing up 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.280 on a farm, but we'll never inside, we had motorbikes 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.439 and back then it was slug guns and all that 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.760 type of stuff and paddy bashes and cars, and I 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.040 like the chop wood. That was one of my chores. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.880 So I was always outside riding bikes, driving cars, chopping wood, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.360 all that type of stuff. So that just built up 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:05.240 natural fitness. And then adding the gymnastics, then adding the 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.480 long distance running. So when I first got to the 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.640 Roosters and we do pre season, I was always up 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.960 the top echelon of the fitness drills. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.760 Well, just talk about the beep tests. Yeah, but were 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:20.520 we in the beep tests? 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.320 Well, I was always in the top five without throughout 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:24.960 my whole career. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.600 And it just explained with the bea test. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.880 Well, the beet test is just a twenty meter run 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.240 back and forth, back and forth, and the beep gets 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.000 faster and faster and faster, and you just keep lasting 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:35.600 as long as. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.439 You can, and you're how many repeats you can do? 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.760 Is it becomes a measure of your fitness. Yeah, based 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.480 on so in other words, the last twenty. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.199 Meters you might be doing it. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.880 They might be trying to get you doing in six seconds, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:47.679 whereas a lot of guys have be dropping out of 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.280 that stage because you've already done the whole lot of. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.160 Yeah, it starts really slow and it gets almost walking 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.520 pace and it just builds and builds and builds, and 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.640 you know you're there. You're there for almost twenty minutes 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.079 doing this, so it's like you can get it in 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.959 someone's head as well. But then the beat gets faster 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:03.319 and faster and you've got to make the beat. But 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.920 if you don't make two beaps, then you're out. So 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.559 you know, by like the beep tests back then like 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.760 you get anywhere above like thirteen, you're doing really well, and. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.640 I used to hear quite often, used to get at 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:16.520 fourteen's and fifteen. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.559 Yeah, so we used to go like you know, we 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.000 used to go up at sixteen at sometimes when you're 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.960 feeling really good. But then Ricky Stewart used to stop 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.240 it at fourteen. He goes, I'm happy with fourteen if 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.640 you make fourteen, and we had we had the whole 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.439 team getting fourteen, even front rollers back in Rickie Stewart days. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.920 Fourteen fourteen for me was easy back because we did 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.559 it so many times, so like beat tests to day whatever, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.640 it's easy. But the front row was like ack beap 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.520 tests h h. But Ricky was. We used to do 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.559 it a lot with Ricky and by the end of 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:53.319 sort of a preseason you know Peter Cusack was getting fourteen, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.680 like you know Brian Fletcher fourteen like the front rollers 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.920 and second roll morally one hundred percent more well more, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.800 he was a good runner. He was actually good runner. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:02.760 He was a good runner too. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:03.079 Yeah. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.760 Yeah, he hit the run machine. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.040 Yeah yeah, he trained hard. Molly was Freddy getting yeah, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.840 one percent, the whole team was getting like fourteen. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.559 And then for everybody that to be able to do 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.320 fourteen reps in a beep test as he gets faster, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.120 that's pretty that's pretty intense. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.400 One pre season with Ricky, we trained some of their 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.480 hardest training sessions. Ricky, I love him, But this was 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.360 after New Year's Eve. We have the two week break 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:34.520 Christmasing years outs marks and he goes beep tests straight away. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.319 So we're straight into the beep test first day and 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.000 you know, the fitter guys get fourteen. Other guys just 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.360 miss it, all that type of stuff. And then he 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.839 go get a drink. We'll come back, and he goes 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.120 gets ever running. He goes, we're doing it again. What 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.480 two beat tests and this is unheard of and he goes, 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.959 we're doing it again. And if you don't make the 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.840 same marker, then Ronnie's counting and we're going to add 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.000 one hundreds, so just so if you got fourteen, then 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.640 I end up getting thirteen. I missed it by ten points, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.560 so that's ten hundreds. And this is through the whole squad. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.640 So we do it again and no one gets the 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.760 same mark except Craig Wing. He gets one better. Right, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.800 We go get a drink. We come back and Ronnie's 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.360 adding up all the numbers that everyone missed it by, 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.680 and Ricky and I thought, Ricky's gonna just get into 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.080 a sees we've missed the mark by heaps and he goes, so, Wingie, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.560 what happened? You beat your wings all proud of himself 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:34.960 and goes, well, didn't get you didn't go hard the 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.560 first time. So he was in the wingie, but then 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.080 he got Then we added it up and it was 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.360 like through the whole squad, it was almost like ninety 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.640 one or ninety two points that we missed it by 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.440 and we had to do. He goes, I will with 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.440 the ninety two hundreds. That's the deal. Everyone's like, what 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.560 two beat tests in the ninety one springs? 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.600 The springs? 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.920 Yeah, yeah, and Ronnie's like, even Ronnie Palmer's like whispering 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.280 the ricky gun. They've had two beat tests. You can't 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.960 do ninety hundreds. I just give him fifty fifties. So 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.120 we went two beat tests in the fifty fifties and 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.440 that was our first day of training. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.040 I just quickly want to ask me about this because 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.280 here's an expert in these sorts of things. But you know, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.400 today you've got all these and we'll go back to 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.720 your career in a moment. But today we have all 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.240 these big name experts around the world like Peditere, Etceterater 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.040 tear in talking about longevity and health span and lifespan. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.080 But one of the tests that they keep talking about 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.320 is VIA two MAX. I don't know if you've done 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.480 via two max or anyone there's rooms done via to max. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.880 But basically what they're trying to work out is you're 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.640 at at stress, at physical stress when you're either running 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.480 or cycling or doing rowing, could be rowing, your ability 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.880 to use oxygen. And what it is is there's a 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.480 score you can get, which is you can't just do 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.200 the score like a beep test, but the score is 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.520 done through meated masks, et cetera. To take taken an 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.440 measure of the amount of oxygen and carbonoxide do you 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:10.560 admit but today that is considered to be the gold 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.120 standard of your as a NINDA cater or a benchmark 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.680 of your potential for lifespan Vir two max. Do you 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.760 still think and as you are a fit guy today, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.000 do you still think those sorts of things are important? 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.360 As you're in your forties now? Do you think those 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:28.120 things are important? 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.960 Being able to do Vo two max and all, let's 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.320 call them a beep test because you do a be 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.240 tested into a calculation which virtwo max is. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.400 Do you ascribe to those sorts of things today? 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.240 As Anthony Mitchello the retired footballer father but generally speaking 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:43.360 epitomere fitness. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:48.040 Yeah, so you know, I'm massively in the nutrition before 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.640 we get into it a bit later, but I'm massively 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.240 into the health space and longevity space for me now. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:59.520 My personal say, weekly training regime is varied, and I 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.000 know we'll talk about minifit later, but if I'm running 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.760 one of my PE programs in school, I'm doing like 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.800 fifteen to twenty thousand steps a day. I'll probably go 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.440 to the gym at Alliance now maybe once or twice 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:13.320 a week. And I play tennis once a week, try 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.440 to play tennis once a week. I'm loving tennis. And 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.520 then that's basically so I'm always moving. I'm always doing 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.159 at least eight to ten thousand steps a day, just 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:29.959 every single day. So moving movement for me is massive. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.760 It's huge. You know, the body is born to move, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.360 so if we stay stagnant or sit in a chair 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.880 for too long, then all your tissues start to mold 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:42.200 to what you do most So movement is huge for me. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:49.080 So I don't really actually flog myself too much anymore 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.200 in the gym or go hard at any cardio. My 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.480 heart is probably is tennis. Or if I just go 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.600 for a sprint on the treadmill for a bit, just 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.879 the short burst and then do some do some weights 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:03.159 or what. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.639 Would be like that'd be like a two minute sprint. 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:12.680 Yeah, I get on the it's just a a self 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.320 prepared yeah yeah one yeah yeah yeah. So I'll just 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.560 do I'll do like a fifteen to twenty minute sprint, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.720 have a break, fifteen to twenty minutes, sprint fifteen to 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.399 twenty minutes, sprint second second sorry second second second, not 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:30.280 twenty so yeah, fifteen to twenty second sprint, just giving 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.000 the body some type of adversitive with all the longevity 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:37.720 stuff too. It's like you know, heat therapy, cold therapy, fasting, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.760 giving this the body some type of hormesis it's called 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:47.080 so some type of adversity which really activates your longevity 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.120 genes and keeps you younger for longer. All that type 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.920 of stuff, and then you know there's there's heaps of 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.920 stuff that you can do for your own health, like 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.480 you know that you're in control of every day is 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.960 the biggest one is what food you put in your mouth, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:03.160 how much sleep you get, hydration, all those things done 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.360 consistently over time, that's when you get the real benefits, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.199 not just do it for a period of time then 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.159 stop and period of time to stop. So with me, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.439 I'm big on nutrition and hydration. I try and get 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.600 eight hours sleep at night. I try and do something 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.000 scheduling something that I love once a week, which is tennis, 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:28.160 And then I move consistently at least eight ten thousand 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.960 steps a day. And then you lift some weights every 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:36.960 now and again for better testos, own production and all 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.040 that type of stuff. So I do a vary of 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.399 things to keep myself sort of fit and healthy. 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.760 If I go back now to Anthony Mitchell or the 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.960 young kid at school, which good to go. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.080 To Liverpool pats the Nutritionian brothers. 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.399 And you're playing footy there for the school. Were you 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.879 a good student or was some year gave damn about Not. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.800 Really, I was all about sport, like pe was my 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:09.439