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Speaker 1: Morning, Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: This is over one hundred your chance to win five

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Speaker 2: grand coming up five k. Question is on the way first,

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Speaker 2: one of our favorite segments we.

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Speaker 3: Do Jason Lawrence tell me what's you know?

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Speaker 2: A resident friendly car? Wayne Chaseman Cheesy is in the house.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm really well. I just had six weeks off, took

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Speaker 3: my daughter to New York, had the best holiday, and

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Speaker 3: come back with fresh.

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Speaker 4: And read.

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Speaker 5: In the blizzards.

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Speaker 3: I did, but the city, just as you would know,

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Speaker 3: the city just goes on.

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Speaker 4: Stupid question. Yeah, did carry your badge when you travel overseas?

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Speaker 4: And is there any just in case?

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Speaker 1: Was there any Is there any power?

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Speaker 3: There's no power, but if I were get in trouble

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Speaker 3: it might help. I just carried all.

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Speaker 1: Did you make friends with a few New York?

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Speaker 3: But I do know a lot of tools over there

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Speaker 3: from a previous role I had, but I didn't catch

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Speaker 3: up with any this time. But it was all about

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Speaker 3: my daughter's first A couple of Hawks players that if

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Speaker 3: you can find them the badge go over that'd be great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, can I start off on a really well

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Speaker 6: this story really impacted a lot of Victorians. Involves knife

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Speaker 6: crime again. Aiden Becker, twenty two years of age, security

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Speaker 6: guard allegedly stabbed to death four teens involved in this

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Speaker 6: incident at Mrnder train station. He was coming to the

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Speaker 6: aid of a fourteen year old.

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Speaker 5: So he was being a good samaritan and trying to

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Speaker 5: jump in and help.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as I say, four four years have been charged.

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Speaker 6: Did this impact you and those members that obviously responded, Look.

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Speaker 3: It does impact. How can it not impact it such

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Speaker 3: a tragic circumstances. First of all, you have a a

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Speaker 3: young boy, fourteen year old who's been targeted by a

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Speaker 3: group of older boys who are carrying these weapons, which

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Speaker 3: is way too common. And then you get to someone,

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Speaker 3: you know, a decent person who comes to help as

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Speaker 3: you would hope that most recent people would try and intervene,

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Speaker 3: and his life is taken from him. So so it

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Speaker 3: really was. I was thinking about this. It happened when

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Speaker 3: I was away, and I was thinking about it the

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Speaker 3: last few days because of the you know, the media attention,

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Speaker 3: and if I could take just a minute to send

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Speaker 3: a message. I know a lot of young people listen

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Speaker 3: to the show. I think you know, often police send

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Speaker 3: a message out and it's it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: scripted message, and we say, you know all the official things,

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Speaker 3: but sometimes, you know, I like to personalize it. I

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Speaker 3: wrote something down in the car just because I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about it before I came in, because I thought

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Speaker 3: you might ask. So if you just give me a minute.

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Speaker 3: You know, carrying a carrying a weapon really can turn

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Speaker 3: a moment into a lifetime of consequences. It can cost

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Speaker 3: someone in their life, it can cost you your future.

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Speaker 3: I implore you to really think about the decisions you make.

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Speaker 3: A moment of anger, a deliberate action or a bad

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Speaker 3: decision can result in a tragedy that affects life forever.

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Speaker 3: And I say to all those people who are carrying weapons,

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Speaker 3: and it's such a broad range of people, and whether

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Speaker 3: whatever that weapon is, you know, enough's enough. It has

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Speaker 3: to be enough. You know, we've got to the point

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Speaker 3: where it's just becoming a commonplace, and we read about

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Speaker 3: it so often that you know, I worry that it's

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Speaker 3: becoming an accepted part of our community, and it's not

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Speaker 3: so to all those people. Think about the consequences not

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Speaker 3: only for the families of the victims, but the consequencity

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Speaker 3: to yourself and your own families, and please just rethink

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Speaker 6: You sound quite emotional about that. What is it about

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Speaker 6: the scourge that we're witnessing at the moment in that

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Speaker 6: case in particular cheese because that's from the heart, and

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Speaker 6: thank you for those words.

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Speaker 1: But why has it sort of impacted you?

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Speaker 3: It is from the heart, you know, And as police,

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Speaker 3: we see, you know, we see the best of life,

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Speaker 3: just a senseless waste of life. It's a senseless waste

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Speaker 3: of life for the for the poor victim and his family,

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Speaker 3: hard for them. And then even though you know we

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Speaker 3: we you know, we cast these thoughts against the offenders.

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Speaker 3: You know, their life is ruined and and and their

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Speaker 3: are terrible. And as a society, you know, it's just

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Speaker 3: it's not good enough, really, no.

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Speaker 4: Just it's terrible.

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Speaker 5: And you know what it also you see young men

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Speaker 5: running to the aid of another young person, and that's

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Speaker 5: what we you know, that that's what so many people

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Speaker 5: would want to do. But it will make people hesitate

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Speaker 5: now as well in intervening and trying to help out.

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Speaker 5: You know that that would make anyone think twice of gosh,

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Speaker 5: should I get involved and help this poor young kid.

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Speaker 4: Probeb So the question is it still as bad in Melbourne?

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Speaker 3: Well, the knife the knife crime is still there. People

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Speaker 3: are still carrying knives and these weapons and other weapons.

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Speaker 2: Because your officers have they got little metal detectors on

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Speaker 2: them now and.

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Speaker 3: Then now and again at different events we have the

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Speaker 3: metal detectors and.

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Speaker 4: We know all running heaps.

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Speaker 3: Well, we just find you know, I can talk about

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Speaker 3: what happens out north where I am. You know, we

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Speaker 3: pull cards over the amount of guns that are out

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Speaker 3: there is crazy amongst adults, the amounts of edge weapons

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Speaker 3: that are being carried. It's crazy. And for some reason

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Speaker 3: the message just not seem to get through.

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Speaker 6: Just on Lauren's question, because I think she made a

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Speaker 6: really important point about you know, we hear so much

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Speaker 6: about good Samaritans. I mean, would you discourage people from

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Speaker 6: helping out in a situation?

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Speaker 1: I mean what does one do?

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Speaker 6: Because I would like to think me myself in that position,

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Speaker 6: I would try to do something.

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Speaker 3: So the first thing we would say, from a Victoria

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Speaker 3: police perspective is call the police right, try and make

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Speaker 3: that first call to get something. But you know, as

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Speaker 3: a common decent person and like we all are, I

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Speaker 3: would like to think you naturally would help. But I

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Speaker 3: understand the hesitance because you don't know what their consequences are.

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Speaker 3: Because there's more people carrying what knives, there's more people

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Speaker 3: willing to use knives, so you are taking a risk

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Speaker 3: by being involved. But what do you do. You can't

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Speaker 3: undersee what you see and then you would I would

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Speaker 5: We can understand why people are hesitant to do that. Now.

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Speaker 5: I know the Victorian Police are putting a lot more

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Speaker 5: PSOs in shopping centers because that's where we've seen a

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Speaker 5: lot of crime as well, and that seems to be

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Speaker 5: making a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: So that's just been extended to the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: And that's on voluntary duty, so the police are not

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Speaker 3: being taken away from their course shifts. It's like a

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Speaker 3: way to make some extra money. So there are a

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Speaker 3: number of shopping centers where that's been effective. I think

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Speaker 3: we've had since mart there's been about six hundred arrests,

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Speaker 3: twelve hundred offenses detected, thousands of cars checked. And what

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Speaker 3: we're seeing is the really good feedback from the retailers,

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Speaker 3: really good feedback from the shoppers, and we're finding that

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Speaker 3: we're deterring a lot of youth gangs from coming in

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Speaker 3: and committing offensive within shopping centers. That has dropped off.

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Speaker 4: So because there was a time there was every week

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Speaker 4: he was.

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Speaker 5: It's frightening that there's been that many rests. But thank goodness.

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Speaker 4: On a lighter note, we were talking cop cars earlier.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because I'm paranoid I'm being followed, followed, check

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Speaker 6: the system.

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Speaker 3: I want to watch. No, no, I did hear what

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Speaker 3: your knowledge? I did hear that there were police outside

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Speaker 3: your house.

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Speaker 4: So they're outside your house in the morning, when you leave,

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Speaker 4: they're following you to work.

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Speaker 1: Today there was was a police car as I walked

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Speaker 1: out of my front door.

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Speaker 4: Feel like you've done something wrong.

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Speaker 6: I thought that you're under rest now I was, and

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Speaker 6: then this morning I was sort of like, I felt

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Speaker 6: like I was being followed.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. They could be there for any reason and

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Speaker 3: maybe just a matter of there's been some stuff going

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Speaker 3: on in the area, so they're just having a visible presence.

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Speaker 1: It's not like.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it wasn't a stripper, but now sometimes

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Speaker 2: didn't get stripper stressed.

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Speaker 4: Up the scraps. It was definitely the crop.

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Speaker 1: It was a check. I'm just checking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think they'd be talking, but they

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Speaker 3: could be there for a number of I would sim

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Speaker 3: little text.

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Speaker 1: Later this morning.

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Speaker 2: We were talking undercover cop cars earlier as well. Lauren

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Speaker 2: was asking, what do you guys have these days?

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Speaker 3: So we've got everything. We've got everything. Really, we've got

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Speaker 3: to range. We go from you know, rams to high lux.

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Speaker 4: And you've got a police ran the big truck.

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Speaker 3: There are big trucks that by certain areas at one point,

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Speaker 3: and I have Littlevolkswagen tig one and we have everything

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Speaker 3: in between everything.

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Speaker 5: There was like another cover of police color had that

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Speaker 5: my family stickers on it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that shouldn't be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Can do whatever he wants. The nicest to drive, especially in.

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Speaker 3: The well the beamers are used by the Highway Patrol,

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Speaker 3: so we don't get access to those. Some of the

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Speaker 3: palisades are nice, you know. Then they've got all the

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Speaker 3: bells and whistles, There's plenty of room. The Ford Rangers

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Speaker 3: very popular.

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Speaker 1: No more Commodore is on the road is the Commodore Interceptors.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: What I love is like what's the best cock car

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Speaker 4: will pursue? I love wisiness with the climate control of

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Speaker 4: the headen seats.

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Speaker 3: All their comfort, plenty of room for the big boys,

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Speaker 3: comfort for you, not for the in the back.

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Speaker 1: Cheesy.

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Speaker 2: We love the work the Victorian Police do. Mate, we

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Speaker 2: love having you guys on the show. Thanks as always, no.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks to you and all your listeners for all cheesy.

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Speaker 3: Good to have your back

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Speaker 6: And Lauren Lauren wake up feeling good following them on

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Speaker 6: the Socials sh