WEBVTT - Forward or back? Where does Harry Petty fit? 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.080 This Sunday Night's King's Birthday Eve matched the biggest meeting 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.560 of Carlton Essendon in twenty five years, with both teams 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.200 at the business end of the ladder for the first 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.200 time together since the turn of the millennium. Josh Barnes 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.280 will join me coming up to preview the blockbuster and 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.840 then less than twenty four hours later, the decimated Pies 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.600 and devastated D's will hope to fill the g again. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.360 Glenn McFarlane is coming on to chat about the ins 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.000 and outs of both teams chances as well. But first 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:46.239 here's Josh. Well. After a mid season break and then 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.400 a mini pre season, Josh Barnes is back on the 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:49.880 heralds Unfooty podcast today. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.800 Barnsey, it was a bit like one of those ones 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.520 where they send them down to the VFL for three 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.120 weeks to do some training and get the body right 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:57.720 all that sort of stuff. Have I missed anything in 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.760 the last few weeks, Andy, what's been happening? 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.000 Not a whole lot. I think Melbourne had the week 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.960 off last week, so yeah, they played like it. Oh 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:11.520 they played Yeah, that depends on your definition. That was 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.240 quite the watch. Must admit didn't get all the way 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.880 through that. Hopefully it's an aberration. We'll wait and see, 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.280 but we're not going to talk about that. We're going 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.000 to talk about what bills as being the biggest game 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.800 of the year could be the biggest game of the century. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.280 If you ask people in the inner North and northern 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.080 suburbs of Melbourne, it's Cardon and Essendon on Sunday evening. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.920 Yeah, it's going to be massive. I'll be there and 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.640 I'm excited to see what can happen. It's a bit 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.000 more positive than Melbourne chat. Isn't any talking about Sunday night. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.200 But it's going to be the biggest game between these 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.640 sides since definitely at least since twenty eleven when they 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.160 played elimination Final Cut and won that easily. They've got 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.160 to take over ninety thousand in the stands that day. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.280 They played in the preliminary final in two thousand andy 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.160 if you remember that, remember well that pretty easily on 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.840 their way to that dominant premiership. A proad from that. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.160 These two haven't really have played two meaningful matches this 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.840 century really when you look at it, so this is 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.600 going to be a monster of a game. They got 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.799 a three thousand there last year. For this Queen's Birthday, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.600 e fixed out they're going to beat that both they 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.640 all report so far on ticket sales and it's going 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.359 to be a huge one. Who would have thought we'd 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.440 have Essendon second and Carlton fifth heading into Queen's Birthday. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.440 Yeah, and it's interesting because I think Essendon has definitely 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.720 flown under the raidar you know that people haven't talked 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.640 about them and still aren't talking about them as a 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.280 genuine contender necessarily come the end of the year. But 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.320 they are definitely talking up Carlton because Carlton, you know, 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.080 they've they've got everybody excited. They almost they got to 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.400 a prelim last year when people didn't expect them to 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.440 and they've really built on that this year with some 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.720 pretty stellar forward player and their mid film in Patrick 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.840 Cripps is you know, if not the best, he has 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.840 to be in the top five players in the competition. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.480 So yeah, it's going to be an exciting one. It's 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.840 twenty five years since that nine to ninety nine pre limb, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.240 that famous cart and winning the Prism, when everyone expected 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:07.359 Essendon to just go right on with the business. And yeah, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.280 twenty five years later, maybe lightning will strike twice and 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.240 we'll get another Crackerjack game. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.560 Yeah. I was not a firm believer, but a quite 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.320 believer in Essendon coming into this year. It's easy to 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.880 forget that they were sixth on the ladder Round fifteen 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.000 last year. They fell away badly. We all know that 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.440 there's no hiding from that. They were awful in the 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.560 last few rounds, particularly they're huge loss to GWS, but 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.560 there was a lot of injuries, a lot of running 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.560 out of gas I think by the end of last year, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.240 and I thought they were better side than what they 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.160 showed in the last few weeks, and they've proven that 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.800 so far this season. They've turned things around. I think 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.000 the obvious thing that we just spoke about before we 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.160 started recording this is their percentage is still on the 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.200 one hundred and two ESSEN, which is usually an indicator 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.280 of how you actually are as a team. Is youer percentage? 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.560 So yeah, it's not that positive. I don't think anyone 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.240 really believes that they're a flag contender, but if they 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:56.000 beat Carlton this week in a huge game like that, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.720 they have to be sort of stamped as a serious 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.320 team to watch. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:05.160 Seinenth on the percentage ladder. So Adelaide's percentage in fourteenth 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.360 is significantly better, Brisbane in thirteenth is significantly better. So yeah, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.520 it's an interesting one, isn't it. So that they're they're 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.480 winning games that maybe you know that that predicted result 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:20.719 the lovely Melbourne Finals stat that the players all clung 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.200 to last year. But yeah, they're winning games that maybe 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.320 that the stats show that they shouldn't be winning. And 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.040 often when you get to the end of the year, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.800 they're the ones that get you into the finals and 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:31.839 you build on from there. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.240 Yeah, and this comes after they lost to Gold Coast 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.880 obviously on the weekend, and that was a back and 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.280 forth final quarter really only decided by that fifty min 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.520 penalty in the final ninety seconds or so of the game, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.000 and that was one that they probably could have won really, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.760 so if they'd pinched that, they'd be clear in second 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.479 and holding on. How have you rated the Blues lately 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.760 anywhere where do you sort of see them? 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.520 I think the Blues are definitely in the top three contenders. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.120 You know, their their list profile and all if you 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.599 want to go get into the jarg and it seems 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.719 to suggest that they are up there. They're still winning 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.400 games even with a significant injury at list. You know, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.960 their injury list has been spoken about as being you know, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.240 in the other than say Richmond and Collingwood. They're they're 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:18.320 the most hampered by sgiven injuries, but they seem to 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.840 still find players to feel those spots and to win 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.320 their way. So now I think Carlton, as they get 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.160 players back, you know, if they can stick around, if 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.600 they can sneak into the top four by the end 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.760 of the year, they are a genuine chance. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.120 Yeah, I think they're They're sort of in that part 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.000 of the season right now where you just have to 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.080 win and forget about how you're playing. Almost given there. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.920 They've been holding onto this injury list for ten weeks now. Really, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.400 every time they start clearing players more get added on. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.839 It's been a real battle for them along. They're not alone, 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.800 as you said, Richmond and Colin would have probably worse 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.599 off than them, but it's been a real struggle and 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.400 they've just managed to find ways to win, find ways 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.360 to get overline and stay in touch with the top four. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.719 The top four that, as we just discussed, is not 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.840 very impressive really at the moment, Sydney is head and 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.000 shoulders above everybody else in the ladder. But in second 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.880 we spoke about, so their percentages is not not that good. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.000 Geelong has been bad for five weeks now Port Adelaide, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.240 nobody ever believes in them. They've struggled when it counts. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.000 So there is a top four spot there for the taking, really, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.680 and Carlton I think should grab it. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.000 This could be one of those years, and we spoke 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.359 about twenty sixteen was one of those years. And going 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.800 back even further like nineteen ninety was one of those 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:36.120 years where the teams who are there or thereabouts who 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.840 don't win the premiership will possibly look back on it 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.200 and say that was the year that we could have 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.240 because there wasn't a standout. You know, Sydney are at 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.560 the moment, but can they keep it going all season? 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.440 Everyone else is sort of you know from second to 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.240 ninth or tenth. You know they're interchangeable. So you know, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.359 you just wonder can a team twenty sixteen style the 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.320 Bulldogs finished seventh, You know, can a team who finishes 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.920 in that sort of area Bob and have a really 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.760 good run top in that four week finals? I think 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.680 there aren't the standouts and I think that makes it exciting. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:08.960 Yeah. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.520 Now, last time you had me on here and he 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.040 before I was sent down to the two through a 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.600 good month to sort myself out. I was on the 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.760 record saying that the top three at the time were 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.880 clearly above the rest. I was GWS, Sydney and Geelong 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.280 at the time. What marks do you give me over 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.800 the past four or five weeks. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:30.360 Well, Geelong seemed to go overseas with you, I think. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.320 Well, to be honest, I flew back in on Saturday 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.800 from Dublin and I think as I was crossing back 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.320 into Australia along was down by twenty five points to Richmond, 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:40.440 and then they started picking it up. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.960 So it can't be a coincidence. Well, you know, don't 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:48.520 go away again. So yeah, Geelong they look you know, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.320 they looked great at the start of the year. As 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.160 soon as they start losing, they look old and slow. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.600 But it's a profile that's happened to Geelong for ten years, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.640 so they could pick it up again. The signs aren't 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.040 great GWS. I don't think GWS there ever ever go away. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.760 So yeah, they've lost a few games, they're still middling, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.200 they're still in there. Wait for them to pick it up, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.800 wait for Jesse Hogan to burst out and kick another six, 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.160 and you know, win games. I mean I think Sydney 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:23.000 is as you said, still, you know there's some daylight second, 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.920 but third to tenth anyone could win it. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.760 Yeah. I put gws still alongside Carlton's two signs that 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.920 should make the top four from here, I think in 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.720 the right position. As we've said, teams above them should 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.560 probably start filtering down at some stage. So I think 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.400 those are three your top four, really, Sydney Giants and 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.079 the Blues. I think that's where I sort of sit and. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.480 Then put it on the record Barnsey. Who will finish fourth? 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.160 Then well that's a big question, isn't I mean, I 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.080 don't really know, to be honest. I think gee Long 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.480 as a fair chance if they get through this month, okay, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.520 but they didn't get through last month's okay. Port Adelade 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.400 seems to win a lot of games. Freemantle's coming with 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:03.560 a bit of a rush at the moment. The way 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.200 they're playing their footy looks pretty good. I don't think 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.000 Colin can make it that high from here. Melbourne you 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.720 can probably right off of that, and then you've got 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.760 the Western Bulldogs is probably the last team in contention 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.839 on the ladder at the moment for a top fourth spot. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.640 I don't see from them. I can't rely on them 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.120 too much, so I don't know. I think it's probably 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.400 going to be either one of Geelong or portolatle get 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.920 enough wins against poor teams. Geelong has a after this 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.840 next month. They have a good draw thanks to finishing 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.079 in the middle of the ladder last year, they should 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.720 probably come home reasonably strongly, so maybe they'll finish fourth. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.960 But they can't seem to win games at home as 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.560 easily as they used to, so who knows. That's not 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.720 really answering your question is no, I think Freemantle is 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.360 the best of those options in terms of their form 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:45.880 at the moment. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:50.640 Sydney Carlton, GWS Frio is the Josh Barnes top four. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.720 Would that be the biggest nightmare for ticket sales? Is 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.920 GWS and Freemantle both in the top four. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.440 Well, particularly if they finished second and third and they 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.520 both get home sorry first and third they both get 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.800 home prelims, or if they finished fourth and fifth, so 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.400 they you know, anyway, third and fifth. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.959 That's why we're going to near Carlton Ands and do 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.480 a lot of heavy lifting. Think the way things are 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.120 shaping out on his gold coasts in the top eight 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.840 at the moment, we're going to be relying heavily on 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.600 the Blues and Bombers. That's hopefully they can kick start 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:19.520 that absolutely week. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.880 Oh yeah on Sunday, It's going to be an exciting one. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.920 Barnsey enjoy thanks for joining me. Thanks Eddie, and here 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.480 on the Herald Sun Footy podcast where we just talked 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.960 King's Birthday eve with Josh Barnes and let's talk King's 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:33.960 Birthday Glen McFarlan, welcome. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.040 Hey, you and Andy are right, two massive games and geez, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.440 I think the Sunday night might be completely out of 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.679 his shadowing the Monday one. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.480 At this stage, Well it is, yeah, I mean I 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.400 think there'll be a bigger crowd. You've got two more informed. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.920 Teams, the twins playing against each other. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.240 Absolutely, and then the Monday you've got a Collingwood team, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.320 you know, crippled by injury, and you've got a Melbourne 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.840 team coming off crippled by poor form. Well just a 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.959 you know, embarrassing, a shameful. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.320 I can't remember many games like that where I watched 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.720 and I just thought, this football club has been obliterated. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.000 And you look at that midfield. That midfield is a 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.000 premiership winning midfield. We've seen it and they were completely 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.680 torn apart. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.520 Yeah, and it's not that it's not a team that is, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.840 you know, at the end of their powers with all 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.840 you've got, you've got essentially as midfield that is, at 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.200 their height of their late ENnies, there should be Yeah, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.440 they should be dominating. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.840 Absolutely and they have. They have done that in the past. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.560 And now you look at it. There was always a 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.600 couple of little floors with Melbourne forward lines all even 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.480 when their premiership yet it was a floor as well. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.200 But now what. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.600 I'm looking at is I'm looking at floors both, you know, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.280 not just forward, not just back, but in the midfield 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.760 as well, so every line. And we're talking about a 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.720 couple of games they've had. Two of the last three 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.199 games have been terrible mel really bad. It's like falling 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.800 off a cliff in a way. And I don't think 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.920 you can blame Alice Springs, and I know internally they're 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.240 not blaming Alice Springs. The venue has been the reason 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.160 behind that, you know, shocking result against Fremantle. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.720 Well, it's not like they're playing against Alice Springs. In 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.760 Alice Springs, correct, I don't have to travel as well. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.959 They travel further than Melbourne travel correct. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.040 So with that with Alice Springs as well, when you 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.360 look at it, like in terms of traveling, I think 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.160 Melbourne you know, probably have got lesser travel than Freemantle 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.840 will actually get there. And the bottom line is it 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.000 was a I wasn't there, but I watched every kick. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.880 If I'm sure you would have, I would have given 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.520 it away. But with that, like last year was a 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.000 really awkward conditions up there last year, this year clear 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.200 perfect conditions, not oppressive, not bad weather. So there's no 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.800 excuses in regard to that. So and I can tell 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.000 you now Melbourne is locked in for the next two years, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.200 so they're not going anywhere, so that the Alice Springs 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:43.959 game will go ahead. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.320 So all the debate about, oh. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:46.840 Why are they playing at Alice Springs, Well, if they 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.720 weren't playing at Alice Springs, they'll probably be playing at 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:49.560 Marvel that game. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.400 Freemant will play Marvel okay too, so well. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.080 And also it doesn't you should be able to play, 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.880 you should you're not selling. As my point before, you're 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.760 not selling a home game to up the stadium to 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.840 play Freemantle on the correct. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.520 Correct and fret I'd never played there before as well, so. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.720 And they just made Melbourne look witch's hats. Yeah, and 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.280 they ran around them and there's no system and you know, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.199 Freemantle we're on. But still there's no excuse for ninety 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:16.720 two points. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.800 I spent first half of the game trying to work 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.760 out how good freemanl I was and by the end 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.160 I'm like, well, yeah, they're good, but how bad Melbourne were? 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.040 And I kept thinking there'd be a spike. There was 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.280 no spike. They can't kick goals and this in this instance, 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.760 and you take Lever out of the defense, they can't 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.240 save goals at the Melbourne that Melbourne. You know, you 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.040 look at Stephen Mays, who's been a remarkable player for Melbourne. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.320 He looked out of sorts. And when Stephen May looks 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.760 out of sorts, I know you're a Harrison Petty forward, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.720 that kind of guy. I'm not sure which way you're going, 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.480 but I think you'll find that at some stage you'll 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:47.240 have to go back. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.640 Is that not papering over cracks though? 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.240 It's a few cracks. We're talking. We're talking serious cracks 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:53.640 at the moment. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.920 Yeah, So you take Harrison Penny out of the forward line, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:56.840 who do you put in there? 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:57.360 For a start? 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.600 You've tried Ben Brown, He's hardly got any he's left 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.800 and even at his best for Melbourne, the system never 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:04.320 really worked. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:05.880 Hasn't worked for anymore, that's right. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.600 You know, Shane McCadam is a ghost in the forward 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.680 line since he can't. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.079 Get near the horribly out of touch. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.240 You know, there's Fulson who they brought in to be 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.360 the Grundy replacement, that was brought in to be the 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.000 Jackson replacement, but they haven't wanted to give him I 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.600 think he was a little bit injured but then really 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:23.160 wanted to give. 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:23.400 Him the go. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.840 So there's a lot of internal debate going about what 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.000 happens with Harrison Petty. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:28.560 That's the thing. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.920 The coach is very keen and you know, very interested 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.600 in keeping him where he is at the moment, but 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.000 you know, out of necessity they might need to go 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.600 back and does he stay at the end of the year. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.240 There's all you know, we know how hard Melbourne Adelaide 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.280 came for Harrison Petty last year. Do they come as hard? 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.400 They certainly don't offer as much, do they. That's the thing. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.720 No, they don't because they offered what they offered based 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.680 on one game against Richmond last year. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.360 It's a good game, good if you can get that 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.240 situation where you play a couple of good games and 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:55.840 all of a sudden they come for you. But he's 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.520 a better player than what he's playing. That's what I think. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.760 The most important thing is he is a good player. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:01.560 Is he a defender? 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.400 Is he a forward? 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.720 Well, we don't really know, but they're gonna have to 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:05.560 find out pretty soon. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.960 They are. And I think they're playing against Collingwood who 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.720 don't have a forward line correct. You know, they've got 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.360 injuries all over the ground. So if they can't, you know, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.320 make a statement again, I think it needs to be 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.400 more than just beating Collingwood. It needs to be making 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.680 a statement. Doesn't have to be a huge result, but 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.520 they need to show that they are a better. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.320 Team because Collingwood, even without the players, they're very spirited. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.400 You saw what the Dogs did before against Sydney. The 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.960 Dogs were terrific against Sydney the week before, so I 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.200 think it was you know, and the Dogs lost a 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:37.920 few players again last week as well, but it was 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.520 a very creditable performance from Collingwood. They could have put 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.000 the Dogs away in the first quarter, just didn't kick straight. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.480 So a lot of interesting looks at you know, how 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.440 far some of the guys that are out from Collingwood 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.600 until they come back, and you know they'll get Will 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.000 Hoskin Elliott back this week. He was close to playing 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.680 last week, so he'll play Reeth McGinness maybe from that concussion. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.280 Then there's a bit of a gap until the Cavalry 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.160 comes back and so got to get through that period 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:01.480 of time. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.120 Big watch on Jamie Elliott as well. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.000 There's been a lot of talk about whether he whether 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.880 that vascular issue in his foot is really causing concern 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.080 and whether you know, there's some speculation that he might 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:11.640 not play again. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:11.800 Now. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.120 The clubs will put out a statement later today, but 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.600 having spoken to a few people there yesterday that they're 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.640 optimistic that he can still play a part in this season. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.040 You know, in the medium term that he that he 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.040 can get back onto the field. He's certainly carrying an 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.400 issue there and will be a fitness thing there as well. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.840 But fascinating game because the Pies will come you know, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.200 minus some players, but with plenty of spirit. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.360 And will the Demons have that same spirit? That's the key. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.280 Yeah, And there's a there's recent history between the two teams. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.000 There is. They don't like each other, let's be honest. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.000 And it's the first time they've met since the. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.000 She there is too, isn't it. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.360 How do you reckon Melvin crowd are going to treat 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.640 Bradon Maynard the interesting? 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.040 I mean that they'll do the usual booing every time 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.240 against the ball. And I don't think I don't think 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.120 on the flip side, I don't think there's a that 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.320 Melbourne is the sort of team that comes up after them. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.200 Jack Viney, There's not many. There's not many, is there. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.280 I was just going to say something bad then I 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.840 was going to say, are they a nice footy team? 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:07.600 In a way they are? 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.960 They used to have that hunger, that that you know, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.919 real ruthless element to it. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.119 It seems to have dissipated. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.239 I think, you know, Max is pretty ruthless, but not 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.479 in an aggressive way. He's ruthless with the way he 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.920 that he gets through Jack Viney is he's ruthless at 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:22.800 the player. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.040 And you know, in a fair way, there's not many others. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.960 Stephen May. Maybe there's not many others. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.840 You know, as we said, the Sunday night game is 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:34.040 fascinating because I think it could be absolute cracker Jackie versus. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.399 Fifth ninety two thousand, maybe. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.480