1 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to another edition of Wisdom Wednesdays 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: and our series on the major hallmarks of aging, And 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: today we are on number ten out of twelve and 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about stem cell exhaustion, one of the key 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: drivers of aging that affects tissue regeneration, immune function, and 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: overall vitality. So stem cells you've probably heard of, and 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: they are cells that are essential for repairing and maintaining 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: our tissues. But as we age, their ability to self 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: renew and function declines. And they are two different things, 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: that self renewal and their function, and together these two 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: declines lead to weaker muscles, slower wound healing, immune dysfunction, 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and increased risk of diseases like osteoporosis and neurodegeneration, and 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: lots of others. But here's the really interesting exciting part. 14 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: Emerging research is showing that things like exercise, calorie restriction, 15 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: targeted pharmaceuticals, and even stem cell based therapies can help 16 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: combat stem cell exhaustion and potentially rejuvenate aging tissues. So 17 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: let's explore that in a little bit more depth. So, 18 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: overall stem cell exhaustion occurs to a combination of both 19 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: intrinsic and extrinsic factors, which means stuff that's inside the 20 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: body and outside the body. And the first is DNA 21 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: damage accumulation. Now you're going to notice there are a 22 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: number of the other hallmarks of aging that play into this, 23 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: and that's just because the body is a complex ecosystem. 24 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: So DNA damage accumulation, which is one of the hallmarks 25 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: of aging in and of itself, but over time, exposure 26 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: to oxidive stress, radiation and toxins leads to DNA mutations 27 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: in stem cells right reducing their ability to divide and 28 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: to regenerate tissues. And then next is telomere shortening because 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: their cells right stem cells also have telemeres and limited 30 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: division potential, and as their telomeres, remember those protective caps 31 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: on the chromosomes, As those telomeres shorten, they lose their functionality. 32 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Then we have epigenetic changes, which again is another major 33 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: hallmark of aging, but age related alterations in DNA methylation 34 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: and histone modifications that we talked about in that episode. 35 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: They empower stem cell identsity and renewal, and then chronic inflammation, 36 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: which we have also discussed. The aging immune system secrets. 37 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Those pro inflammatory cider kinds that we talked about, and 38 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: they can disrupt stem cell function and the surrounding niche. 39 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: And then one that we haven't talked about yet. I'm 40 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: leaving it to Alaska. It's my favorite, is mitochondrial dysfunction 41 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: and aging stem cells generate more reactive oxygen species and 42 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: that then damages the cellular components and accelerates stem cell exhaustion. 43 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: So they are the major mechanisms by which it happens. 44 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about stuff that we can do. So 45 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: exercise again, you'll be not surprised here. It's one of 46 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: the most potent tools to maintain and rejuvenate stem cells. 47 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: And if you think about it, exercise impacted all those 48 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: other things we talked about, the DNA damage, telomeres, epigenetic changes, 49 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the inflammation, and the mitochondria you'll find out. So therefore 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: it's going to play a role both directly and indirectly. 51 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: So what exercise does, and particularly in muscle sales, it 52 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: activates what's called satellite sales. These are muscle stem cells, 53 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: and then enhances our muscle regeneration. Right, that makes sense 54 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: if you're activating your muscles and from exercise, they are 55 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: obviously going to look after themselves better. The next thing 56 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: that exercise does is it promotes hematopoetic try saying that 57 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: when you're pissed, hematopoetic stem cell function and that improves 58 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: our immune and our blood cell production. Exercise also enhances 59 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: neurogenesis the creative new brain cells. I've talked about that 60 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: ad nauseum on the podcast, and that improves cognition and 61 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: protects against neurodegenerative diseases. And then exercise also enhances our 62 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: mitochondrial efficiency again we're going to do a full episode 63 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: in this, and reduces oxidative stress, helping the stem cells 64 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: to maintain their function. So evidence for this, there was 65 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: a study the cell stem cell and find that endurance 66 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: exercise increases the regenerative capacity of skeletal muscle stem cells 67 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: by improving mitochondrial function and reducing inflammation. And research in 68 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: Nature communication and there's a heap of other research around 69 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: this shows that aerobic exercise and actually other research shows 70 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: that strength training boosts BDNF, which enhances neural stem cells survival. 71 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: So we know that bdn F actually peaks around lactate 72 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: threshold and where you're producing lactic acid that is when 73 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: we get a big spike and BDNF because lactate actually 74 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: crosses the blood brain barrier and directly stimulates the production 75 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: of BDNF, which enhances our neural stem cell survival. So 76 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: engaging in that mix of resistance training and cardiovascular training, 77 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: but making sure you're doing some of it high intensity 78 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: is really really key. Second is about calorie restriction and 79 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: the different types of fasting. So they have both been 80 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: shown to extend lifespan in mice and other animals, but 81 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: also improve stem cell function by reducing metabolic stress and inflammation. 82 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: And high calorie restriction does it. And also some of 83 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the fasting protocols will will do this by enhancing autophogy 84 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: so that triggers the cellular cleanup process. Remember autophogy is 85 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: basically a spring clean for your cells and that removes 86 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: damage proteins and damage mitochondria, helping stem cells to say functional. 87 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: And the fasting protocols and calorie restriction also increase this 88 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: stem cell pull and that's been shown in animals and 89 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: that it prevents this stem cell depletion, particularly in the 90 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: gut and the hemo hematopoetic system, and it also improves 91 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: stem cell quiescence. So this quiescence is a kind of 92 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: a dormant but healthy state, so not sinescence. Member we 93 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: talked about those zone and it actually makes them more 94 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: resilient and extends their lifespan. So studying cell metabolism found 95 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: that short term fasting increased into style stem cell regeneration 96 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: in aged mice by twofold. And we do have to 97 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: be aware mice are not always well, they're not humans ever, 98 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: but we don't see it always being replicated. But these 99 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: sources of studies can only be done in nice but 100 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: research in nature demonstrated that lifelong calorie restriction also did 101 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: that in older animals. But intermittent fasting and the different 102 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: protocols that we've talked about, there is some evidence that 103 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: they may activate autoplogy, and particularly in muscle cells, and 104 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: especially if you go out for a run or do 105 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: some cardio in a fasted state, there's good evidence that 106 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: that activates muscle cell autoplogy. But the prolonged fasting, you know, 107 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: this is the seventy two hour plus that has been 108 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: shown to trigger stem cell renewal, especially in the immune system, 109 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: and there's quite a lot of evidence of that even 110 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: in humans. So let's not talk about M tour inhibitors. Now, 111 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: we have mentioned these in a previous podcast, but something 112 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: that is on my radar, which I've talked about, is 113 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: this M tour inhibitors because this M to our pathway, 114 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: So M tour stands for mechanistic or mammalian some people 115 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: say target of wrappamasin and it actually promotes selle growth. 116 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: But with that metabolism and aging. Now, M tour activation 117 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: is crucial for muscle growth and immune function, but it's 118 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: this chronic overactivation that accelerates aging and actually accelerates sem 119 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: stale depletion. Now, again I mentioned before, we have to 120 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: be very careful to distinguish between M tour inside the 121 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: muscle and M tour outside the muscle, because inside the 122 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: muscle is good thing, but outside the muscle, after we've 123 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: reached our food age can become problematic over the long run. 124 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: So ones that are being studied now M toor inhibitors 125 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: rapam iicin. I've talked about that. That's a very well 126 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: known M tour inhibitor. It is extended lifespan in animal 127 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: studies and rejuvenated aged heematopoetic stem cells and there are 128 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: current trials investigating its potential for improving immune function and 129 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: reducing age related diseases. And as I've said before, in 130 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: the Interventions Testing Program, which is a massive program looking 131 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: at all these particular agents that could extend lifespan done 132 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: in animals obviously, and the one the big star is 133 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: rapam iosin and it's been done in nice, it's currently 134 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: being done in dogs, and if it shows the same 135 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: protocol then there is good potential for rappamacin to act 136 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: in humans. There's a lot of people excited about that 137 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: in the scientific community. And the next one is met foreman. 138 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: That's a diabetes struggle game. We've talked about this before, 139 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: but it appears that it may be able to modulate 140 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: m tour signaling and reduce inflammation, possibly protecting SEM cells, 141 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: and studies show it improves muscle stem cell function in 142 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: aging animals, but studies in human show that met forman 143 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: can inhibit the benefits of exercise, so kind of watch 144 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: this space. Res Virtual is a polyphenol that's found in 145 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: red wine and it activates AMPK, which is a longevity 146 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: pathway and indirectly inhibits SEM tour. Theoretically, supporting stem cell health. 147 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: But I do want to say that Virtual was shown 148 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: in the Interventions testing program to have no effect on aging. 149 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Whether it's having some effects on stem cells, maybe that's true, 150 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: but overall in terms of aging, whereas Virtual is not 151 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: an anti aging therapy, even though it's being promoted all 152 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: over the internet as one of those. Let's now talk 153 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: about some potential stuff for the future, which you know 154 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: is being done in some places. But this is stem 155 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: cell therapies. And if you live in Australia, good luck 156 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: trying to get stem cell therapies. But certainly in the 157 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: United States you can get some some of those commercially, 158 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: and in places like Mexico and Panama and stuff like that, 159 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stem cell therapies going on, and 160 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: probably some other countries around the world. And so there's 161 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: different types of stem sale therapies, and I'm not going 162 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: to go into a massive detail on them, but just 163 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: as an overview, the first one would be messen chymo 164 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: or mensynco, depending whether your British or American in terms 165 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: of your pronunciation. That's missing chymeal sten cell therapy mses 166 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: from bone marrow fat or umbilical cord have actually been 167 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: shown to reduce inflammation, promote tissue repair, and improve immune function. 168 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: And there's current clinical trials in humans testing and missing 169 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: chymal stem cell therapies for osteoarthritis, neurodegenerative diseases, and immune regeneration. 170 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: Then the next one is induce plury potent stem cells. 171 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: So plury potent stem cells. These are cells that have 172 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: the ability to turn into any cells, but scientists can 173 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: now reprogram adult cells into stem cells, offering potential for 174 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: regenerative treatments. And studies show that induced pluri protent stem 175 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: cells could restore aged organ function, but there are risks 176 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: like tumor formation that do need to be addressed. Then 177 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: we have stem cell derived exosomes, so exosomes. Actually did 178 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: a podcast with Professor Jeerson or his surname I forget 179 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: at a minute, but he talked about he was doing 180 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: research on exosomes. These are tiny vesicles secreted by stem 181 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: cells that contain regenerative factors and they may offer stem 182 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: cell benefits without needing full transplantation. And they are being 183 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: studied for skinaging, neuro degeneration, and the heart disease. And 184 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm particularly interested in whether harnessing the part of these 185 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: exosomes can be used without any of the complications, and 186 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: other things that you could have a look at some 187 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: peptides and other emerging therapies. So there's a peptide called epitalent. 188 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: This is a peptide that's been shown to activate telomerias, 189 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: extend lifespan, and enhance stem cell function in animals, and 190 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: certainly there are people who are taking that peptide. Again, 191 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: you will have access to peptides much easier in places 192 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: like the United States than you will in the UK 193 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: or Australia. But you can actually get these things in 194 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: inverted commas for research purposes. And another peptide that shows 195 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: promise is thymosin beta four that plays a role in 196 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: tissue rappair, in stem cell mobilization, and especially in the 197 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: cardiovascular system. And then there's something called g it's CaCu 198 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: r copper peptide has been known for enhancing wound healing, 199 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: skin regeneration, and stem cell activity again in animal studies. 200 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: So to close look, there's a pretty complicated topic this one, 201 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: but stem cells are a major driver of aging, both 202 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: the and indirectly through some of those other mechanisms that 203 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: we talked about earlier on. But research shows that lifestyle interventions, 204 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: particularly exercise and some of the different fasting types and 205 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: some of these also emerging therapies can definitely help protect 206 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: and even rejuvenate our stem cells. So just key takeaway summary, 207 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: exercise is very, very powerful. That should be your go 208 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: to calorie restriction or fasting. Any of those different fasting protocols, 209 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: particularly the more prolonged fasting protocols, definitely things that we 210 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: can do to enhance our stem cell renewal long longevity. Then, 211 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: for those who want to play more in the pharmaceuticals 212 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: space or the molecule space, wrap amcin definitely kneeled on 213 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: something that can have an effect, but we do need 214 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: to see studies in humans before everybody goes and tries 215 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: to get rap am and met forman again can impact 216 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: on stem cells, but whether or not it directly improves 217 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: aging is yet to be known. There is another study 218 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: looking at met form and now which I think will 219 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: give us a lot more detail. REDS virtul again shows 220 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: a bit of promise in stem cells, but has no 221 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: impact on aging in the interventions testing program, so it 222 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: may have some effects, but I certainly wouldn't be going 223 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: out and spending any money on res viatrol, but then 224 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: definite stuff that has potential or proven potential actually stem 225 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: cells therapies, the exosomes one I've really got my eye on, 226 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: and some of those various peptides. So that's it for 227 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: this week, folks. Hopefully that gives you a little bit 228 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: of insight around stem cells and how rejuvenating could be 229 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: one of the most effective ways to extend our health span. 230 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for episode eleven. Well, I'll go into the 231 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: can last major hallmark of aging. Got you next time