1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: We'd like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: on which this podcast was produced, the Galligle people of 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: the orination. We pay our respects to elders past and present. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: It's October twenty nineteen and we're at the peak of 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Shishepegma in Tibet, eighty thirteen meters above sea level. 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Nims day Perja is at the summit of the mountain. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Anything above eight thousand meters is considered to be in 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: the death zone, where complacency could kill you. It's an 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: extraordinary achievement to make it here. But what makes it 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: even more impressive is that Nims has survived the death 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: zone on thirteen other mountains. Just forty other climbers have 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: conquered this feat and Nims has just made history as the. 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Fastest person to do it. The previous record holder took 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: seven years and seven months. Nims has taken just seven months. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: He's rewritten the history books and achieved a further six 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: world records in the process. Critics said it couldn't be done, 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: but he wanted to show the world that nothing is impossible. 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: I'm Att Middleton and this is head game today. Nims 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: Day Perja on Expedition Project Possible NIMS. 20 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: We've known each other for almost twenty years now, and. 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: I'm so honored to have you on my podcast. 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: We've been through a lot in the military, we've been 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: through a lot in the mountaineering world, but this podcast 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: is about what you've been through and how you've come 25 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: out the other side. First and foremost, Nims, How are you, buddy. 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: It's so good to see you and I miss you, bro. 27 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: I miss you well. You're supposed to be here in 28 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: scared diving with us, but hopefully next time. And look, 29 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: brother in a soul, So glad to be here and 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: and talking to you. As I said, you know, the 31 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: energy and I get from you know, even the having 32 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: conversation with you is always amazing. So yeah, really really 33 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 4: nice to be here with your brother. And then thank 34 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: you for having me on your podcast. 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, brother. 36 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: So names, let's go straight back to the beginning where 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: everything started for you. 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: You come from Nepal. Where were you born in Nepal? 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: And how did you come to becoming a girkha Because 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: I know that that's a really sort of elevated job 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: or position within the Nipolese community. Was it always in 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: your blood and was always bred into you from a 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: young age. 44 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 4: So and I was born in you know, a really 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: humbling family. I grew up in the most flattest and 46 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: warmest part of Nepal, in a super warm and joining 47 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 4: girkha was something, you know, it's I can remember as 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: early as you know, as I grew up because my 49 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: dad was in the Indian girkaz and and my two 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 4: brothers had just made into into the Biddish girkhaus. You know, 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: for us one, there is a huge legacy, there's a 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: huge respect, there is uh this honor you know, being 53 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: a part of the girkhaz in British military. But also 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: for me, I was the youngest son in the family, 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: and my both brother who had joined the girl cause 56 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: we're married, and and my mom used to kind of 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: always say that, look, now your brothers are married, they 58 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: they're gonna go and start their own family. You know, 59 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: you know who's gonna look after the educations and all that, 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: and and it kind of, you know, get me really worried. 61 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: And I just wanted to look after my mother and 62 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: kind of escape the poverty. But also there was. 63 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 5: A a hunger for to be that honorable and out 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: of this legendry stuff that you know, Nepal and United 65 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 5: Kingdom has gone for now almost more than two hundred 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 5: and fifty years. 67 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, so it sounds like that you wanted to 68 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: lead the family names. It sounds like, as I know you, 69 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: you're a natural leader, but it sounds like from a 70 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: young age that you had that sort of leadership capability 71 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: within you, from the poverty, from you know, wanting your 72 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: brothers and your family to succeed and wanting to provide 73 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: for them. Was that a big, big sort of push 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: for you to go out into the big wide world 75 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: become ultimately a gurkha so you could send money back 76 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: and help the family. 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: Yes, And then you know the you know, I still 78 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: remember you know the day out of you know, thirty 79 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: two thousand young men is between eighteen to twenty one. 80 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: You know, they went for the selection and only two 81 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty mad it and I was one of them. 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: And you know your pass and straight away you run 83 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: and deceive your head and everything. But also you know 84 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: there's a part where they give you the money. I 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: think the first gast I received was around five hundred 86 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: dollars and you know that that money and I give 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: it to mother and I felt really good. But straight 88 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: after that and I was sending money to my family 89 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: straight from my paycheck even when I was in the Gurkhas, 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: and as I as soon as I made it to 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: special courses, I managed to look them even better. So yeah, 92 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: and I'm a family man, and as you know, and 93 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: family means a lot to me. And how I take 94 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: the families. You know, when we're young, little vulnerable children 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: and kids, you know, they give up their happiness. You know, 96 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: they give up their so many things that they could 97 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: have done for our better future. And once we are 98 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: in that position, you know, as they grow old, I 99 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: feel like it's kind of like a I don't know, 100 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: rotation or disciple, you know what I feel like. You know, 101 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: now they're older, they're vulnerable, and you looked after them, 102 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: and it's such a nice thing to do. I guess. 103 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 2: So that was at the forefront of your personality, which 104 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: I suppose you know, looking after others and leading in 105 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: that way has always been sort of manifested in you. 106 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: But you've done a few selection processes nims. Now take 107 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: me back to the pre selection, you know for the 108 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: gir because you know, like you said, there's thousands of candidates, 109 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: you're one of two hundred odds that pass. Just take 110 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: me through that selection process and what that looks like, 111 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: because it's hard. 112 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, So for those listeners who doesn't know 113 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: what Gurkha is and all that, first of all, I 114 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: think we need to go way back in the history. 115 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: So when the British Empire was in India, you know, 116 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: raising the whole of the empire, nepalans next to India. 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: So they tried to take over Nepal, and even though 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: they have the huge amount of force that alfeldies and everything, 119 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: they couldn't really you know, be the Netflix saws and 120 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: there's one story where they even blocked the water for 121 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: nine days and the girl has kept fighting. So of 122 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: course at that point the British are very smart and 123 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: of course the King of Nepal had enough with this 124 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: war and everything. So the British has the necklace king saying, look, guys, 125 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: you know we're gonna have We're not gonna attack you anymore, 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: We're not gonna have this fight, but can we have 127 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: this you know guys you know, fighting for us, And 128 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: the king was like, yeah, actually it's a great idea, 129 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: you know, because we also don't want any war. And 130 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: you know, so this agreement happened between the United Kingdom, 131 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: India at that point and Nepal three goldment. It's called 132 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: tripactid agreement and since then it's been going on and 133 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: it's only the nature of his kind in the world. 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, for me going through the selecting process, 135 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: you know, like imagine, you know, you are literally growing 136 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: up in the poverty and you might have this amazing 137 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: opportunity where you're not only respected, but you know, you 138 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: go to United Kingdom. You know, it's it's a dream, 139 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: you know. So that means you know that the competition 140 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: is tough. You know, thirty two thousand people applied at 141 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: my time. And one of the risks we do is, 142 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: you know, we carry like rock of thirty five ks 143 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: in our forehead and you run up you know, four kilometers. 144 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: You know, just because you are physical, effit, that doesn't 145 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: mean you know you'll get through it. You know, you 146 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: also need to be mentally fit. You also need to 147 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 4: be well educated. You need to pass the English math 148 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: and all that test and the section happens only once 149 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: in a year and if you are below is eighteen, 150 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: you cannot do it. And if you're above it is 151 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: twenty one, you cannot do it either. So you know 152 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: it's a really big thing, you know. 153 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, and what was it like passing, you know, 154 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: being told that you're you've passed the pre selection. You're 155 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: now going to the United Kingdom. Obviously you're going to 156 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: be leaving the family going to the United Kingdom to 157 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 2: become a girker. 158 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: You know, like where you know, you are super excited first, right, 159 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: and you seeing like okay, you know because I see 160 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 4: all the pictures you know from my brothers, you know, 161 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: all this big bend London eye and you know all 162 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: that I'm expecting. So we've fee a bit of training 163 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: and it's tough. But we were put on the plane 164 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: and we came to London Heathrow and straight away we 165 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: were put into the coast and next time, you know, 166 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: we we wake up. It's like in a cat trick. 167 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: That's you know, worse than even the village of Nepal. 168 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: So I was like what is London? And I were 169 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: big Ben and then the rain is coming from the sideway. 170 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: You see more innocive than more than people, you know, 171 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: so I was like, oh my god, you know, I think. 172 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: Get me back to Nepole, get me mom, I'm coming home. 173 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: I think they specifically choose that in a really remote 174 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: area now for a reason. But yeah, that was that 175 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: was it. And then what I realized is it's not 176 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 4: only you know the toughness of the training, but the 177 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: key here is how you you know, make relatively a 178 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: young man from Nepal, a village guy or a hillboy, 179 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: whatever you call it, to a refined soldier. You know, 180 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: so you know from really basic of how you use 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: your knife, fork and spoon too, how do you use 182 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: the toilet and all that. Yeah, and then from that too, 183 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: you know, being super disciplined, super respectful to everybody around, 184 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: and it's just bilin from there. 185 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: So when you pass out as a Girka, obviously huge pride. 186 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: You know you're there. 187 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: You can not only support yourself, but you can support 188 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: your family. That whole element of being a child what 189 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: you really wanted to do. Did you ever imagine when 190 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: you passed out as a Gurkha that you would find 191 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: yourself on Special Forces selection and being the first ever 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Girkha to pass selection for the Tier one Special Boat Service. 193 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: No begand and I never really imagined that, you know. 194 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: And then to be honest, you know, you know, we 195 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: we are only limited by our knowledge and we didn't 196 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: have you know what you know, being honest, when I 197 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: was in Nepal, I didn't know what you know, UK 198 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: Special Forces. Does you know what SBS is or I 199 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: didn't even know what SAS is and all that. But 200 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: once you joined the military and I found out about them, 201 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 4: you know, they're actually even even the coolest, you know 202 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: they are, you know, there's so much superior and I thought, 203 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: you know, like we're best. But then yeah, and again 204 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 4: from that, I think why I wanted to go to 205 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: SBS or in the UK Special Forces in the first places. 206 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: And I think once I served into the Girkas for 207 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: you know, five years, and I realized that, you know, 208 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: Girkas are really tough soldier, well disciplined, the most loyal 209 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: of the loyal, the bravest souldiers in the planet. And 210 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: but no one would. 211 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: Say the elite of the conventional forces. 212 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: They are like the like the powers and Marines that 213 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: they lead conventional forces. 214 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also like the biggest assets of the characters 215 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: is like because you know, we speak the same language 216 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 4: and we do everything and it's and there's a huge 217 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: amount of brotherhood. But also like I was like, Okay, 218 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: if we are the best, why why none of us 219 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: are in you know sbs you know or you know 220 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: why we don't have so much in the sas and 221 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: all that. So I think I wanted to break that barrier, 222 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: not only for myself, but but the rest of the guys, 223 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: you know who I always believe, you know, it doesn't 224 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: matter who you are. You know, there will always be 225 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 4: someone who is smarter, someone is stronger, someone in a 226 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: talented than you. But sometimes you just have to open 227 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,119 Speaker 4: the open the barrier. And many many girl has perhaps 228 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: I don't see that, you know. So, and I also 229 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: wanted to be some at least somebody else, you know, 230 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: representing the that the girl has been in that top 231 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: tier one unit. So and honestly, I had no clue. 232 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 4: So and all I hear is like, you know, they 233 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: are the pass I shoulders in the planet. They are 234 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: like these they are They're like James all this. So 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: I had no clue how the selection's run. So again, guys, 236 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: you know, my training resumes just a puper race, and 237 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: that's like six months before you even even you go 238 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: into selection. So I was like working up one o'clock 239 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 4: in the morning and you know, big burgen of seventy 240 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: five pounds, and I can't you know, I kind of 241 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 4: run from home to the to the military barracks in 242 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: Taham from you know, from Maidstone and then you know 243 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 4: the whole. You know, once you get to the camp, 244 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: you know, you have breakfast, but then you also need 245 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: to do whatever that physical tax of that morning is, 246 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: you know, with with the military. So I do that 247 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: physical you know exercise or PET we call it physical 248 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: training exercise. So and from there, obviously, and that was 249 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,239 Speaker 4: a I was a building and instructural finisher, so plastering 250 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: and tiling whole day. And in the evening, you know, 251 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: four o'clock, I used to run clean Fatti. So clean 252 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: futic is like you know, at this time, I will 253 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: not carry my berg and I leave it there. I 254 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 4: run back home again twenty kilometer. I have a quick dinner, 255 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: then go to the gym cycle sixty five kilometer. And 256 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: because I wanted to go to SBS, I had to 257 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: be good in swimming, so I used to do like 258 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: front frowl, like one hundred times none stuff in twenty 259 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: five meters swimming pool. And I never you know, honestly, 260 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: I trained like that for six months, six days a week, 261 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: and I never say, okay today there is raining. Today 262 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: there is a black black ice in you know, on 263 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: the road. You know how it is, you know, and 264 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: you know it's the weather in UK is very miserable 265 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: and you can easily sleep, you know. But I never 266 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: make any any excuses at all, because I really wanted 267 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: to do to something, and even from this point, you know, 268 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: the purpose was not only only about me and my desire. 269 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: But and again I keep saying this too many many 270 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: people who have even given interview or talked. I was like, 271 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: if I even passed this, even if I get selected 272 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: by the UK Special Forces Group, that I'm I'm happy 273 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: to work for free, you know. So yeah, and eventually 274 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: you know I pass it. And then of course you 275 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: know you know me from from pull and and and 276 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: also big brother, you know you were so supportive and 277 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: you know for these people who are listening to this podcast, 278 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: you know, when you are the first in a girca 279 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: in the SBS and it's all like pretty much heavily 280 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: dominated by marines and all that, and and it's not easy, right, 281 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be very honest, but you know, and was 282 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: always there. You know, he's my brother and and and 283 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: the guidance he gave me and all that. So yeah, 284 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: and then big thank you and and since and then 285 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: now and you know, like we have probably got around 286 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: iron the total more than twenty Special Forces in SAS 287 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: and SBS together, So the gate is open now, you know. 288 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: So you know, it's just amazing. 289 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: Talk about breaking the mold and being a trailblazer. So 290 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: you know, you're the first gorkha for to pass selection 291 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: for the Special Boat Service. You have an outstanding career, 292 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: and then you leave because this passion of yours to 293 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: lead the way to trail blaze, to break molds, to 294 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: talk to me about Project Possible, because I. 295 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: Remember it well. 296 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: I remember you leaving the military and everyone's like, why 297 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: are you leaving the military to go and kill yourself? 298 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: This is you know, a suicide mission because you wanted 299 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: to break the record to summit all fourteen peaks above 300 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: eight thousand meters. There's only fourteen peaks above eight thousand meters, 301 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: and you left the military to go and shatter this record. 302 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: Which everyone fought was impossible. You named it project Possible. 303 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: Put me into your mindset that you had in order 304 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: to believe that one you could jump from your dream 305 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: job as a Special Forces operator, Yeah, to then go 306 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: in smashing this unbelievable record. 307 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: Always you know, try to be you know, the be 308 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: the noise of those people you know who are unheard 309 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: or who doesn't have the voice, the servis never had 310 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: the respect and the name that they deserve. That was really, really, 311 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: you know, key, key thing that mattered to me. And 312 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 4: the second in line with that one was, you know, 313 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 4: I really believe that through this project I can I 314 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: can show the world that doesn't matter where you come from, 315 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: what your background is. You know, either you grew up 316 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: in a really humbling family without anything else or whatever 317 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: it is in either you can be black, white, brown, 318 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: doesn't matter, you know, you know, if you have a 319 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: bigger purpose than yourself, you can literally do the things 320 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: that the world says it's not possible, you know, And 321 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: just to code this. And at that point, when when 322 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 4: we went for sponsorship, which we're gonna get a bit 323 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 4: later on, even the Red Bull said, no names. You know, 324 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: we're not gonna support this because you know, it's like 325 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: you're saying that you're going to swim to the moon, 326 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 4: you know, so at that point, no one was even 327 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: even imagining it. So yeah, but I really believed it 328 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: in that misin statement, which was not about me at all. 329 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 4: And because it wasn't about me, it was for the 330 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: whole people whose I believe, it's for the whole of 331 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: the world. You know, that I could change the way 332 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: of thinking, I could change you know, all that stuff, 333 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: so which I believe in, you know, but I think 334 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: you can come with so many ideas and stuff, But 335 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 4: if you don't believe in that purpose, then that was nothing. 336 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 4: You know, you can say a few people here and there, 337 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: but because it's not really what you believe in, so 338 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: that can't go that far away. But it's something that 339 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: I believed in from my bone and I don't know 340 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: from is molecules, you know. 341 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: So that's why I love what you said. It was 342 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: bigger than you. The purpose was bigger than yourself. 343 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: And when you've got a purpose like that and the 344 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: positive mindset that you have, you can flip the impossible 345 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: into the possible, can't you. 346 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was so tough though, you know, like 347 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 4: you know now you have already leaved your career in 348 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: this forcess. You have gone big time announcing the project 349 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: no one lives in. You know, you're already now in 350 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: the social media obviously. You know that's that's no way 351 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: going back into SF anymore. You know, the pencil is gone. 352 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: You kind of sold your house to to start off 353 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: in a Foster second mountain, you know. And then and 354 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: I'm really forever thankful to you, and which I'm going 355 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: to bring this on this podcast because you know when 356 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 4: when I had nothing at that point, you know, I 357 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: still remember, you know, you give me quite decent money 358 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: for me to go and cover actually two mountains, So 359 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: big thank you brother, you know. And it wasn't only 360 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: the money. It's like you know, when you have and 361 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 4: then you give whatever it is, don't that doesn't mean 362 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: but you know when I needed the must you know 363 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: you were there, so you know once acad big thank 364 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 4: you and yeah, thank you. 365 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: Do you know what I remember our conversation well when 366 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: you said no and I need to I need to 367 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: get pound, like you don't need to do anything. 368 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: I said, just stick to this part of the deal. 369 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 3: I just want you to come back alive. 370 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you certainly done that, nim So I remember 371 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: the first three climbs you smashed out within days. Take 372 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: me back to that mindset of you tackling fourteen of 373 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: the highest mountains in the world, knowing that that record 374 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: was seven years and you wanted to do it in 375 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: seven months. Take me through the first free climbs because 376 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. 377 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: How quickly you smashed them. And no wonder the sponsors 378 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: came after that. 379 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, And the big thing is yes, 380 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: you know, you know, we managed to smash that and 381 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: all that. We were on the the first mountain and 382 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: is known for they call it, you know, you know, 383 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 4: it's the most dangerous mountain in the world. In one 384 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 4: in four people dies, you know, and second in a 385 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: cator is there. And we were on that mountain and 386 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: we've been working so hard and the thing is, yes, 387 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: eventually we summit it. We came from the summit back 388 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: to base camp and we were basically at the base 389 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 4: camp prepared to go to the second mountain. According to 390 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 4: the plan, you know, which is the all agree the 391 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: helicopter was supposed to come. But what happened was that 392 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: very morning we were made away like, nimhs, you know, 393 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 4: doctor Chin is alive above Campo. And when I look 394 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 4: at the footage of that, you a person who was 395 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: flying the helicopter around and then this poor man was, 396 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: you know, just below the summit, just just waving his hand. 397 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: And what I really thought at that point was, you know, 398 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: if that was me. You know, any tough decision I 399 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: make in my life, I always put myself in the 400 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: person soons, and I was like, if what if that 401 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: was me? You know? 402 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: So, nims, let me just break this down. 403 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: You just summitted your first mountain, which was an Emporda, 404 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: and you're back down. You've got a time scale to 405 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: meet because you know you need to get to the 406 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: next mountain. You know, you need to smash these first 407 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: couple of mountains in order for the mission to continue 408 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: because you won't get the funding. And then all of 409 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: a sudden you get down and there's someone in the 410 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: death zone on the very mountain you just summitted, and 411 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: you need to make a decision. You look at these 412 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: footage and you go right rescue mission straight away from 413 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: from the very first mountain. What's going through your head 414 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: when you're down there and you think to yourself I've 415 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: got a helicopter that I can jump on right now 416 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: to go to the next mountain, or do I spend 417 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: the next couple of days. 418 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: I think it goes down to basically, first of all, 419 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: who you really are inside, and then of course, you 420 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 4: know we did so many recently, you know, from these 421 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: special forces. You know you're on some of them together, 422 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: even with their because we never leave anyone behind. And 423 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: the basic principle of life is if you forget what 424 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: you've been taught, all the good stuff, you're never going 425 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 4: to progress in life. So I kind of took that away, though, Yeah, how. 426 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: Hard was it to not only make that decision, but 427 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: how hard was it to go back up on the 428 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: most tangerous mountain in the world, to risk your life 429 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: to save a life? 430 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 4: I think, but this isn't making wasn't hard If I'm 431 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 4: being really honest, I know what, I have given up everything, 432 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: but that's all metaialistic, you know, But there's people's lives, 433 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: so it was it was really easy. But the mission 434 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: was next level because you know, we went straight into 435 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: her drop it just below Cam three and from Camp 436 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 4: three to where Sin was. On the day when we 437 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: opened the line, it had took us eighteen hours, okay, 438 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: and now I'm thinking, like doctor gin has been there 439 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: for more than twenty four hours, you know, so you know, 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: we are racing against the time. So I think that's 441 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: when we set up, you know, and we were like 442 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: going as fast as we could, and we got there 443 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: within four hours, and we straight away tried to get 444 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 4: him as fast as possible, and yeah, you know, it 445 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: was pretty much the rescue over the most of the night. 446 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 4: And when we got him to down to Cam three, 447 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: we had to wait for the helicopter. So that's when 448 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: you know, we got him inside the inside the the ten. 449 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: We we wrap him around the slipping bag, you know, 450 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 4: tried to warm him up, try to you know, like 451 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 4: wake him up, you know, remind him that his family 452 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 4: is waiting over there. But we all had to I 453 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: still remember, you know, we all, like myself and my 454 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: three like server brothers were like like this, we're slapping 455 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 4: here just to stay awake. And then so that you know, 456 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: somebody has to to make him awake otherwise he's gonna die. 457 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was. It was really tough, and and 458 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: you know the big thing is we still managed to 459 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: get him off and we give one hundred percent, you know, 460 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: and that's what I can be be happy with you. 461 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: Although you know he passed away on the hospital, but 462 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: we gave one hundred percent and that's the most important 463 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: thing that that I can say. 464 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: You know. 465 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: Wow, So once you've done that mission, you know, talk 466 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: about then getting your head back in the game for 467 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: Project Possible. So once that's done, he's safely off the mountain. 468 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: You got, you kicked straight back into the mission Project Possible. 469 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: And where'd you go next? 470 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: We went to We went to that agree and you 471 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: know again this mountain was the next level. I still 472 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: remember we we probably only living in five days because 473 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: we lost the good weather because of you know, we 474 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 4: tried to go and riskue mistressing. That means we lost 475 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: three days of the of the good weather. That means 476 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 4: we are now climbing in storm. And I still remember 477 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 4: all my like, you know, team you know, save us, 478 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: were really really scared, like names, how how are we 479 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: gonna come down? We don't even see anything, And I 480 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: was like, bro, listen item from Special Forces. My navigation 481 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: is on this spot. It is my end. And look 482 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 4: I'm right at the front. And we keep pushing, We 483 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: keep pushing and it was the most horrific I would 484 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: say weather. But yeah, I think it was just because 485 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: we had that that purpose and we're saying like because 486 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: we have also just came from doing a really good thing. 487 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 4: So I felt like spiritually we are also like you know, protected. 488 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: When you got off and a Purna. That wasn't your 489 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: first rescue mission. It went from rescue mission to rescue 490 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: mission to rescue mission, all the way through Project Possible 491 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: to the very end, isn't it. 492 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to do three rescues on Contentena. You know, 493 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: we made this climber fifteen minutes below the summit. You 494 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: know we're coming from Special Forces. What the first thing 495 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: we established the commps Okay, we seek for help, you know, 496 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 4: because you know you are now giving your oxygen and 497 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 4: you aren't even acclaomatized for that stage, you know, so 498 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: you're coming off the oxygen giving to them. You're without oxygen, 499 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: you're doing the rescue, you are asking for help. And 500 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 4: those people said to me on the radio, okay, names 501 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 4: like please continue the rescue. You know we're coming up 502 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: to help you, okay. And that means we gave one 503 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: hundred percent. There was no reserve then finding another guy 504 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: and having to have like two of them died at 505 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 4: the end because literally nobody came. And I think it 506 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: was really a wake up call, which was extremely shocking, 507 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 4: upsetting because I came to campho I, you know, tried 508 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 4: to wake up every ten and all that nobody wake up. 509 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 4: Even way before that. When it got back, I was 510 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: on the talking on the radio. Everybody turned off their 511 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 4: radio off. So it really hurt me as well. But 512 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 4: I knew that I was doing true things. I knew 513 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: that I was. I was you know who you know 514 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: if you get under your scalet and this is the nims, 515 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 4: you know, So I was proud of who I am, 516 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: So I know, I I called my wife should Si 517 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: at that point, and I was in tear and I 518 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: was trying like a baby, like a baby. This happened, 519 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 4: but you know that's me. 520 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: So let's talk about when you achieve you've hit the 521 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: fourteenth peak, you come back down, you have smashed the 522 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: record from nearly eight years to seven months. 523 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: What did that feel like, mate, to know that you've. 524 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Just absolutely annihilated this this record. 525 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: You feel amazing, you know, because and at that point, 526 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: because you know, everybody thought that is he gonna do it? 527 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 4: Is he not gonna do it? And all that, and 528 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 4: eventually I did it, so everybody was happy. Okay, the 529 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: Netflix shaw, you know, fourteen Picks was the must worse 530 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: documentary of that that point, you know, everybody was like names, 531 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: you know, thank you for putting Nepal into into global 532 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: map again and you know, all all this positive energies. 533 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: But what I really love about this whole story is 534 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: the K two Winter. K two Winter is something that 535 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: everyone talk about, you know, Project Possible being impossible. Let's 536 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: quickly touch on K two Winter, because that was mission 537 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: impossible and you made it possible. And where when are 538 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 2: we going to see that come into light? And when 539 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: are we going to see that hit our screens? 540 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: You know, hopefully hopefully soon. And I think this story 541 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: is way even perhaps you know, ten times more powerful 542 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: than Project Possible in my opinion, for so many reasons, guys, 543 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: you know, so many reasons. What we managed to do 544 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: as as a team together, but also as a leadership. 545 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: You know, of course I had all my saf has 546 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: really paid well, and arguably I could be the first 547 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: person to be there perhaps and if I plan it 548 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: for my own glory on my success on my name 549 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 4: and all that, and that's how the whole expedition has 550 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: been in the past, you know. But I'm a man 551 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: of fairness, and I always believe that, you know, since 552 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: we all are working together, why we don't take and 553 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: sere equal success, equal name, equal glory. And K two 554 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: was the only mountain in the world that was never 555 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: climbing winter. You name whatever, the best mountaineer in the world, 556 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: you guys, you name it. They all have tried it. 557 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: Nobody made it. 558 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's not accessible. 559 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: K two isn't accessible at the best of times, let 560 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: alone in winter. 561 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: You know, even in summer, Yes you can't. Yeah, it's 562 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: not accessible. Sometimes you can't even access the mountain in summer. 563 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: What I loved is that virable moment of you on 564 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: K two winter with your n the police team walking 565 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: to the summit hand in hand, cuddling together, singing the 566 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: national al anthem. 567 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: Is that right to the very summit. 568 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: What a moment, What a life defining changing moment in 569 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: the community that NEPO absolutely deservely uh cherished from bro. 570 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: You know that was like, you know, I still remember, 571 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 4: like and as we gather around and then our last 572 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: climber wasn't that far as well, you know, so so 573 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: we all gather around and as we walk to the summit, 574 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: I think because every soul feel really respected and there 575 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: was equal to it, I didn't even care about the view. 576 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: And it was just that analogy, you know, because most 577 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 4: of the guys were in tears, you know, when we're like, 578 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: you know, you know, and when we see it, and 579 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: it was a sore much power of spirit, power of happiness, 580 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: power of fairst out of selling the zoo. And that's 581 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: when we again put Nepal into global map, you know. 582 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was, it was. It was the best thing. 583 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: But also what I managed to do here, and was 584 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: when I did the Fourteen Pigs straightway after the documentary, 585 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 4: the Western climbers started criticizing me, and you know, quite rightly. 586 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: David Goggin says that you know, if you if you 587 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: even walked into the water, they will say he's walking 588 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: in the water because he cannot stream, you know, so anyway, 589 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: so but it had got to me, so I was like, okay, 590 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: you know, so at this point, before I did the 591 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: summit brief, we check the weather. I read the weather out. 592 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: Now here's the weather team, we need to go and 593 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: climb this, but one team member among us has to 594 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: climb at this one. At this one has to go 595 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: without oxygen. And I asked individually and the team said 596 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: no and ed this went. The team didn't knew what 597 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: I was going through. So I had a first bite on, 598 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: a first snip on my three fingers hair and three 599 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: fingers here. But I was wearing small gloves and I 600 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 4: was hiding it because as a leader, you want you 601 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 4: don't want to show the weakness, you know. But at 602 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: this point, because you know, little things matter on the 603 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: big mountains, and those little mindset is the difference between 604 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 4: success and the failure, and I didn't want it to 605 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 4: show them any weakness, you know, exactly exactly. So at 606 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: this point, for the first time, I take my gloves 607 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 4: out and I said, guys, look my three fingers here, 608 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: three fingers here. I have a first nip. I would 609 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 4: one percent go and climb this without oxygen. But if 610 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: I go without oxygen, is you know, you know your 611 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 4: body feel colder, you know, and I already have frost snip. 612 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 4: That means you know, I'll go into frostbite and I 613 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to use this hand and I probably die. 614 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: So can anybody take this responsibility? Because I knew that 615 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: Western community will criticize again, we just need to do 616 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: this clean and caught. No criticize because it doesn't matter 617 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: what you did. The Eastern media is so big that 618 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: you know you cannot go and keep telling everybody. So 619 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: I just wanted, don't clean so. 620 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: So big and so brutal. 621 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and nobody again, nobody step up again? You know. 622 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: For me, I was like, Okay, now I have to 623 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: do it. And I was so much worried because how 624 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: I keep up with this guy without oxygen and so 625 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: that we climb together. And by this point and I 626 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: had faced so much the real brutality, the reality of 627 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 4: a thousand meters where you know, you don't know who, 628 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 4: who is bought by, who's who's where, who's there? You know, 629 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: So I was thinking, if I'm lit by the by 630 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: the ten meters point, then somebody's just gonna go and 631 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 4: take all the glory and the equality. We're gonna won't 632 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: be there and you know all that stuff. So I 633 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: was like, okay, you know, but anyway, you know, I 634 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: was right at the front, managed to stop and and 635 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: the first post we made it. And if this is 636 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 4: what the Special Forces teach to anticipation, you know, we 637 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 4: we we talked about the team and the first post 638 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: was about the team and guess what spread away the 639 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 4: Western community saying that, oh, it's not a great because 640 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: it was with oxygen and all that. I'm just waiting there. 641 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, and I know even wanted to 642 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 4: tell this story, but I saw some of the comments 643 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 4: me valuing the achievement, and those people who were criticizing 644 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 4: were some of my Western friends who had submitted mountains 645 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 4: on the lines me and you fake fixed, yeah, and 646 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: it really hurt me. And and after two days of 647 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: you know, like getting criticide to make my gine, you know, 648 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: dear brother came and nimns, you just need to say 649 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 4: it because it's too much. Now we just need to 650 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: kill the negative day. And that's when I said, okay, 651 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 4: you know, have done with that oxygen. But yeah, this 652 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 4: story is so powerful. But it was again with the purpose, 653 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 4: you know, So that's what it got us there. 654 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: You know, when are we going to see K two 655 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: winter on our screens? 656 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: Sure? You know, because I have seen the fourteen pigs. 657 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: We we keep constantly touch of saw you not long 658 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: ago and for this needs. 659 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: You know, I've seen some of the rushes that you've 660 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 3: shown me. 661 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this will blow I think fourteen, Well, I don't 662 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: think you can blow fourteen. 663 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 4: But then we can. We can, we can because it's 664 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: farily so unique. 665 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: When when are we saying it? 666 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: Well, hopefully, you know, hopefully soon, And you know we're 667 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 4: still in it because you know, we need to get 668 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: it right. You know, there can be only one real 669 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: key to Winter documentary, you know, so we just have 670 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 4: to do it right. It needs to be you know good. 671 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I just have announced that the biggest project 672 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: of you know, my lifetime, you know, it is the 673 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 4: hat Trick, which is like the three times the summit 674 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 4: of fourteen one thousand meter picks and the seventh summits. 675 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: And the key here is, guys, I'm raising the money 676 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 4: for the Nimbs Life Foundation. Every money raised, one hundred 677 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 4: percent will be will be given to the charity, you know, 678 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: and and and the charity has done amazing stuff like 679 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 4: building a porterhouse in Logocy for eggs example. You know, 680 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: everybody keeps saying that, you know, the porters are at 681 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 4: the backbone of mountaineering. Everybody is talking, but there's no accent. 682 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 4: You know how long this guiding industry has been there 683 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 4: for sixty seventy years, you know. But it is so 684 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 4: sad to see that when people track for six seven days, 685 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: they go to Feriche, and from Feris they go to 686 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: this village called Lobiji, which is the second last village, 687 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 4: the second last village of getting to the Bascun. And 688 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 4: unfortunately at Lobuse there is no accommodation for those poor guys, 689 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 4: you know, really humble guys to sleep in and they 690 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: have to go back to to to Feriche, you know. 691 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 4: So you know, we are making a porterhouse. And I 692 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 4: think it's all life is about dignity, right, so if 693 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 4: we give them that little respect, whatever it is, they 694 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: feel like. You know, yes, we might be the most 695 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: list paid people in this industry, but you know we 696 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 4: are being at least respected here. We are looked after, 697 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: you know. So this is why you know that that 698 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 4: really nice porterhouse is getting met there. And we are 699 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 4: also you know, supporting any veterans who has got you know, 700 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 4: PTSD and all that they can come and do some 701 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 4: sort of adventure. And and I'm a big believer that 702 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 4: any illness can be recovered through adventure. You know. This 703 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 4: adventure is the thing guys, you know, and everyone who 704 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: is listening to this podcast, you know, I know, me 705 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: and my brother and he's running a trip to Kilmenzaro 706 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 4: for all these novices who wants to get into mountaineering 707 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: or climb big mountains. But it's also not only about that, guys. 708 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 4: It's about if you go and do some outdoors, either 709 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 4: that could be skydiving or that could be you know, 710 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 4: climbing small mountains or big mountain it keeps you you, 711 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: It keeps your it keeps your inner syle alive, you know. 712 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: So so that's why, you know, and it's the same 713 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 4: thing I comment and serve these soldiers you know, who 714 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: give their life for this countryver prepared to die, you know, 715 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: looking after them through adventure and equally again, you know, 716 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: you know, I believe that ours is our only home. 717 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 4: Even the elendmox is trying to put things on Mars, 718 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 4: but right now Art is our only home. And as 719 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 4: names die, I what I do is I look after 720 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 4: the big mountains. So you know, we've been doing the 721 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: big mountains still a project for the last couple of 722 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: years and it is not cheap, and but I am 723 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: right at the front doing it, and hence why we need, 724 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 4: you know, those levels of funds to do good things, 725 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: you know, So if anyone is there to sponsor again 726 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 4: this project, guys, I don't even take that money for 727 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 4: the expedition. It goes towards the foundation. Please help us, 728 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: that's all. 729 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: And when you are names, you know, when you're at 730 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: the forefront, you're going to take all the good and 731 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: all the bad when you're trailblazing. We are indeed running 732 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: an expedition in Killemen, Jamo this August, so check out 733 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: NIMS Day's website. I will be there leading with NIMS. 734 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: So jump on board if you wish. Nims, you are 735 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: indeed brave and you are indeed loyal everything that you've 736 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: brought forward from becoming a young at such a young age. 737 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: Stay keep leading, stay oil, and NIMS just be you. 738 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, brother, Thank you so much, brother, and thank 739 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 4: you everyone who's listening to this podcast. 740 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 2: If you'd like to find out more about Nims's story, 741 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: you can read his memoir Beyond Possible. 742 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to this episode of Head Game. If 743 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: you enjoyed it, please leave me a review. Or share 744 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: it with a friend. I'm Att Middleton. 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