1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christinami. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: It it's Monday, November twenty four, twenty twenty five. Australian 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Federal Police Commissioner Chrissy Barrett will work with her international 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: counterparts to track down people she says are undermining social 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: cohesion in Australia, including gangs who traffic, elicit tobacco and 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Nazi supporters. The Coalition is stuck at a record low 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: approval rating of twenty four percent. That's according to new 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: data from Newspoll and it's despite a decision by the 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Liberal and National parties to dump a net zero emissions 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: goal from their policy platform and a promise to get 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: tough on immigration. You can read our experts analysis right 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: now at the Australian dot com dot AU. US President 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is fuming over a decision by more than 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: a dozen world leaders to defy his policy agenda. They 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: went big on the Paris Agreement and net zero at 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the G twenty leader's Summit, and it's assigned the US 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: President's global influence is on the wayne. That's today's episode. 18 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: In May, during a meeting with South African President Cyril 19 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Ramaposa at the White House. US President Donald Trump made 20 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: a startling claim. 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: So we take from many locations. If we fail, there's 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: persecution or genocide going on. And we had a lot 23 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: of people. I must tell you, mister President, we have 24 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: had a tremendous number of people, especially since we've seen this. 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Generally they are waite farmers and they're fleeing South Africa, 26 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: and it's a very sad thing to see. 27 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: A week earlier, the United States granted asylum to sixty Africanas, 28 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: despite denials by South African officials from across the political 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: spectrum that any such persecution was occurring. But Trump felt 30 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: so strongly about the issue that he boycotted the annual 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: G twenty Leader summit, which happened in Johannesburg over the weekend. 32 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Ramaposa said it was a missed opportunity. 33 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: It's always best to be inside the tent than being 34 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: outside of the tent. The tent is the G twenty. 35 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: All countries are here, and the United States, being the 36 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: biggest economy in the world, needs to be here. 37 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: And the White House, well, they disagreed. He is Press 38 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Secretary Caroline leave It. 39 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: I saw the South African president running his mouth a 40 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: little bit against the United States and the President of 41 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: the United States earlier today, and that language is not 42 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: appreciated by the President or his team. 43 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: In Trump's absence, world leaders who attended the summit, including 44 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi, united in an act of defiance 45 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: against the US president's agenda. 46 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 5: Now the world's largest economies have to fight Donald Trump 47 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 5: by agreeing to a leader's declaration of the G twenty, 48 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: a unified plan the place's strong emphasis on accelerating global 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 5: climate action. 50 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 6: One by one, the leaders of major economies representing eighty 51 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 6: five percent of global GDP and two thirds of the 52 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 6: world's population rejected Donald Trump's view of the world. 53 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 7: You know, the odds saying is that if you don't 54 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 7: attend the lunch, you are lunch. 55 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Cameron Stewart is the Australian's chief international correspondent. 56 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 7: And to a degree, that's what we saw play out 57 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 7: in Johannesburg. We had the G twenty leaders there talking 58 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 7: about their own agenda and they put out a very 59 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 7: very traditional, if you like, rule of law kind of 60 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 7: old fashion statement which really strongly backed the climent change 61 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 7: initiatives of the Paris agreement, even talked about net zero, 62 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 7: talked about the importance of free and fair trade across 63 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 7: the world, and basically just how important multilateralism is, the 64 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 7: multilateral institutions. Of course, all of that is very anti Trumpian. So, 65 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 7: if you like, we are seeing in this one of 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 7: the very first examples of Donald Trump's waning influence on 67 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 7: world bodies. It was really quite striking that the G 68 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 7: twenty felt brave enough to put out this statement. I 69 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 7: think even as a much just three or four months ago, 70 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 7: they wouldn't have done it in this manner. Donald Trump 71 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 7: is having a tough time at the moment on his 72 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 7: signature economic policy. He is tariffs, which he levied across 73 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 7: the world. He's finding, not surprisingly, that they're not helping 74 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 7: in lowering consumer prices. In the United States, a grocery 75 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 7: price is still very high, and in fact, earlier this 76 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 7: month he actually signed an executive order removing tariffs on 77 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 7: al a lot of food imports in the United States, 78 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 7: including Australian beef. And the reason why he did that 79 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 7: was because he's worried about high crisis of grocery products 80 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 7: and that's leading to a demise in his popularity. So 81 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 7: that's the first plank. The second plank, of course, is 82 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 7: United States Supreme Court is reviewing the legality, the constitutional 83 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 7: legality off his tariffs. Now they had a quick look 84 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 7: at it the other day, the Supreme Court and asked 85 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 7: a lot of very hostile questions, which made a lot 86 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 7: of people think that they might actually strike down his 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 7: tariff regime when they deliver a final verdict, which will 88 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 7: probably be in the first half of next year. So 89 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 7: on that front, Trump is taking a bit of a 90 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 7: battering within his own party. Kristin his MAGA loyalists are 91 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 7: asking questions of him that we haven't seen before. Of course, 92 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 7: we've seen the spectacular fallout between himself and Marjorie Taylor Green, 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 7: the very prominent MAGA congresswoman who now says she's going 94 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 7: to leave Congress after Trump fell out with her and 95 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 7: branded her a trador. Now, look, he's got a lot 96 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 7: of popularity, a lot of support. That doesn't help Trump. 97 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 7: There is a cohort of mega Trump supporters who are 98 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 7: disturbed by a he's fall out with her. He's handling 99 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 7: of the Jeffrey Epstein files, which of course he has 100 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 7: been reluctant to have released all the way through. He 101 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 7: is releasing them now only because he's been pressured to 102 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 7: and of course some isolationist MAGA identities are not happy 103 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 7: with America's involved in foreign conflicts still, from the Middle 104 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 7: East to Ukraine to even the Nezuela. So he put 105 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 7: all those things together their Christian He's having a reasonably 106 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 7: tough time at the moment, which we haven't seen him suffer, 107 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 7: if you like, since he was re elected, and in fact, 108 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 7: Royce's pole release last week, so he's approvalrating is now 109 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 7: thirty eight percent, which is the lowest of his presidency. 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 7: So it's certainly taking a toll. 111 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: He said there that if you don't attend the lunch, 112 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: you are lunch. Cyril Ramaposa said, it's his position that 113 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: boycott politics don't work. Was he right in this instance? 114 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 7: I think Trump wasn't wise not to attend the G twenty, 115 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 7: his favorite summit. You know, it's a lot about the 116 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 7: developing world wanting things from the developed world. It's a 117 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 7: very consensus bace grouping normally simply because it's hard to 118 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 7: get definitive statements from such a big broad group of 119 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 7: countries that include you know, China, et cetera. Et cetera. 120 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 7: Of course, he boycotted on the grounds that he believes 121 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 7: that white farmers are getting victimized and killed in South Africa, 122 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 7: and that's part of the South African government's policy and 123 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 7: that's wrong. But that's not a massive reason for Trump 124 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 7: to boycott the actual summit. I don't think. I mean, 125 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 7: some of those claims are contested. You can take it 126 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 7: either way. But the bottom line is that Trump, I 127 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 7: don't think, wanted to come to this summit. 128 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: This Joint Communica, as you said, was unanimously endorsed by 129 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: all G twenty member nations except the United States, that 130 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: includes the United Kingdom, Canada and China. Is Australia's participation 131 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: likely to have any impact on our bilateral relationship with 132 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the US? Do you think? 133 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Now? 134 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 7: Look, I don't think so. I think there's enough cover 135 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 7: there if you like, for US. I mean, Anthony Albernezi 136 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 7: was very careful in what he said. He certainly didn't 137 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 7: say anything that would particularly upset the US. He's just 138 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 7: at the very successful meeting, of course, with Donald Trump 139 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 7: in Washington. The relationship is otherwise going well. 140 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: Now. 141 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 7: Trump hasn't beaten up on Australia with tariffs compared to 142 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 7: other countries. I don't think there's anything that's going to 143 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 7: be dangerous for Australia with this. But you know, it's 144 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 7: interesting that as a group the G twenty, he felt 145 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 7: the collective protection if your life, of everybody pushing back 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 7: against some of Donald Trump's agenda. They felt safe enough 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 7: to do that in that group. 148 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Prome Minister Anthony Alberanez he said at the G twenty 149 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: summit he won't limit Australia's coal exports and his government 150 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: will support new gas projects as a backup in the 151 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: transition to renewables. 152 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 5: All of the energy experts so the cheapest form of 153 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 5: transition is renewables, back by gas, back by hydro, back 154 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: by batteries. 155 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: That's Australia's position. 156 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: But just last week at the COP thirty Climate summit 157 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: in Brazil, Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen endorsed 158 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: a pledge to phase out fossil fuels in a bid 159 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: to keep the global temperature rise below one point five 160 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: degrees celsius. So how does that wash on the global stage. 161 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Is the Albanese labor government trying to have its cake 162 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: and eat it too when it comes to climate to. 163 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 7: An extent, you could interpret it that way. I think 164 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 7: Anthony Alberici's comments on gas definitely directed entirely at the 165 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 7: domestic audience here. I mean, if he starts abandoning gas, 166 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 7: then he's going to be in big strife with the electorate. 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 7: So I think his comments, if you like, are the 168 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 7: reality of where the government sits, probably rather than Bowen's 169 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 7: rhetorical flourishes on these things. That would be my interpretation. 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Coming up, what about Donald Trump's vision for Ukraine. The Communicy, 171 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: endorsed by all but one g twenty member nation in 172 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: Johannesburg on the weekend, included a broad pledge to bring 173 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: peace to nations afflicted by war. We've used AI to 174 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: bring parts of the statement to life. 175 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 8: We will work for a just, comprehensive and lasting peace 176 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 8: in Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the occupied Palestinian territory, Ukraine, 177 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 8: as well as ending other conflicts and wars around the globe. 178 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: But ending the war in Ukraine is presenting a unique challenge. 179 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Last week, a twenty eight point peace plan drafted by 180 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: the United States Special Envoy Steve Witkoff was leaked to 181 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: the media. Ukraine wasn't involved in the formulation of that plan, 182 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: and unsurprisingly it looks good for Russia. It would require 183 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zlensky to hand over vast sweds of 184 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: land to Russia and capit's ability to defend itself in future. 185 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: It would also leave it up to Europe to deal 186 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: with whatever happens after the fighting stops, and that's got 187 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: some European leaders offside. Here's Cameron Stewart. 188 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 7: This is going to be a real test of Donald 189 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 7: Trump's persuasiveness, if you like, but also how willing he 190 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 7: is to really push this. At the moment, he's framing 191 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 7: it to Ukraine to Vladimir Zelensky, Ukrainian leader, as an ultimatum. 192 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 7: He says, I want Ukraine to agree to this within 193 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 7: a week now. Zelensky's been a reasonably diplomatic I think 194 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 7: he's learnt from his previous fighting with Donald Trump not 195 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: to come out swinging. But nevertheless, Zelensky said a remarkable 196 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 7: thing to his people over the weekend. He said, we 197 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 7: are now facing a very difficult choice between surrendering some 198 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 7: of our dignity or losing a key partner, and it 199 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 7: would be very difficult for Lelensky to sign this and 200 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 7: remain in power in the Ukraine. And I think so 201 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 7: Trump is under a fair bit of pressure to rebalance, 202 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 7: if you like this peace proposal. So it'll be really 203 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 7: fascinated to see what happens in the days ahead. How 204 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 7: far will he go down that road or will he 205 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 7: stand his ground and say no, take it or leave it. 206 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 7: This is what you've got. 207 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Cameron Stewart is The Australian's chief international correspondent. You can 208 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: read his commentary on Donald Trump's rough patch right now 209 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot au.