WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 12 February

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<v Speaker 1>From the Sky New Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>I mate, come into the man Cave because we have

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<v Speaker 2>got a big one for you tonight. It'll be bursting

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<v Speaker 2>with debate and great guests tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Housing and who will be able to afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the future be issue in coming into the election,

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<v Speaker 2>but a bit of false hope being offered by the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>Today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain why another probe decades on is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at everything to do with JFK, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the people in charge of it says there

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<v Speaker 2>was probably another shooter. And the great Megan Kelly joins

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<v Speaker 2>us from the United States fresh from going to the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl with Donald Trump, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was in a great mood. He was super happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Even then he was very focused on the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor got mood.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you happy that you got?

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<v Speaker 2>But first, I am going to start where everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>has apologies for the repetition here, but how can we

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<v Speaker 2>not how can we not talk about the racism and

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<v Speaker 2>the racism of those.

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<v Speaker 1>People that work in the health service.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I agree with everything that's been said by all

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<v Speaker 2>of my colleagues, so I know you've heard it fourteen times,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not going to go over it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with what's been said. This stuff is an absolute disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>They can say it's a joke, they can say that

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<v Speaker 2>they're sorry, but the reality is that the behavior is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely appalling. The behavior of the female nurse's family no

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<v Speaker 2>better today when the media came knocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Broke.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm on, you know, what do you have to

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<v Speaker 4>say about the allegation? Tell me, excuse me walking towards

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<v Speaker 4>the faith.

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<v Speaker 3>Mate, mate, mate to me, all right, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I need my phone back.

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<v Speaker 4>What has happened.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't understand what's happened. I haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 5>talk to us. She's in a freaking extreme panic attack

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<v Speaker 5>at the prison time. I'm trying to calm it down,

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<v Speaker 5>to see what She's been a nurse for God knows

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<v Speaker 5>how long, She's never done anything to hurt anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, whatever. What was said on that video is clearly unforgivable,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly a new low. But I wanted to take this

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<v Speaker 2>to a bigger conversation, a more dangerous conversation, but one

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to have anyway. Why wouldn't these two

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<v Speaker 2>people think that they were going to get away with it?

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<v Speaker 2>When what was the response to people marching on the

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney Opera House, Well, nothing, no arrests. Instead, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the great effort was not into what was happening, but

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<v Speaker 2>instead what you may or may not have heard police

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<v Speaker 2>openly admitting that they were being overwhelmed with numbers as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to responding to numbers. We have failed to hold

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<v Speaker 2>to account the people when it comes to stupid protests.

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<v Speaker 2>We have failed to hold to account the people who

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<v Speaker 2>have spoken words of hate. And this is yes, since

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<v Speaker 2>October seven, twenty twenty three, but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Deeper and it's longer.

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<v Speaker 2>We also failed to hold anyone to serious account when

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<v Speaker 2>they are waving around flags of foreign nations and they

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<v Speaker 2>are seemingly more fired up about what's happening somewhere else

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<v Speaker 2>than what should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Social cohesion here. But let's be really clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia has a very large, extended hand to anyone from

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the world to come and join us. But

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<v Speaker 2>where we have failed, and I mean governments and institutions

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<v Speaker 2>and societies, is that we have, out of some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of sensitivity, allowed to breed a sense of entitlement in

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<v Speaker 2>people that they would feel like they can say what

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<v Speaker 2>they said on that video. Now, interestingly and amazingly, not

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<v Speaker 2>a single significant Islamic group in Australia has come out

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<v Speaker 2>to condemn what has been said, to say that a

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<v Speaker 2>patient in a hospital could die or receive adverse care

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<v Speaker 2>that would kill them if they were Jewish, if they

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<v Speaker 2>were Israeli.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know.

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<v Speaker 2>That the failure to do so only causes bigger problems

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<v Speaker 2>in the community. Now, this is not a moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will not accept any dog whistle that there needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be some sort of response to this other than

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<v Speaker 2>what happens at the official level. We have made too

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<v Speaker 2>many mistakes for too long, and the greatest sign of

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<v Speaker 2>those mistakes is that the children of people who have

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<v Speaker 2>come to this country, who have extended the peace of

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<v Speaker 2>this nation, are often the loudest ones on the streets

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<v Speaker 2>or online saying the dumbest and most evil of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not care of what God you believe in

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<v Speaker 1>or don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not care where your family is from and

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in a former life. I do not care

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<v Speaker 2>if you are someone who was born here and seeks

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<v Speaker 2>to play out historic rights and wrongs on the streets

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<v Speaker 2>of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>It is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>But the stern words of politicians today are too little,

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<v Speaker 2>too late. How have citizens gone through the daycare system,

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<v Speaker 2>the primary school system, the high school, tafe, university.

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<v Speaker 1>Or our workplaces.

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<v Speaker 2>And come out the end of that process feeling emboldened

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<v Speaker 2>to say what has been said.

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I like that the Nisa Whals government has got one

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<v Speaker 2>heck of a swagger about it and loves pointing a

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<v Speaker 2>finger and has taken seemingly quick action here.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's not let them off the hook.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of the anti Semitic attacks have taken place

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<v Speaker 2>in New South Wales in the term of this government.

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<v Speaker 2>What have they done to change the education systems? What

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<v Speaker 2>have they done to put pride in this nation at

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<v Speaker 2>front and center of the Australian story. I am sick

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<v Speaker 2>and tired of people pretending that the symptom is what

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be dealt with, not the problem. For those

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<v Speaker 2>that are half paying attention, looking forward to run off

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<v Speaker 2>to an umpire somewhere or when this will be inevitably

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<v Speaker 2>taken out of context by people on the internet or

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<v Speaker 2>those who hate this broadcast. I am very happy for

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<v Speaker 2>people to come from anywhere in the world and believe

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<v Speaker 2>in whatever they believe in. But but regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 2>your arrival was generations ago or was a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, this joint first, and this joint first means

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody with a yamaka or a hijab should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to walk the same side of the street without disputation.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had enough of it. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>is that there is no solution that is possible when

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<v Speaker 2>much of the problem is the second generation our fellow Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>Much needs to change, and we have seen that when

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<v Speaker 2>a culture wants to change and change very quickly, it

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<v Speaker 2>decides what is appropriate and not appropriate. Anyone who works

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<v Speaker 2>in any office of any size spends more time on

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<v Speaker 2>training about what to say and not to say at

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<v Speaker 2>work than we do on fire drills, and good because

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<v Speaker 2>it means people learn how to get along. That message

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<v Speaker 2>is failing and I want politicians who do not just

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<v Speaker 2>stand up for the twelve hours when everyone is yelling,

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<v Speaker 2>but are committed to it twenty four hours a day

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<v Speaker 2>and seven days a week, that regardless of the makeup

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<v Speaker 2>of our community, it is united around one purpose, which

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<v Speaker 2>is one citizen is not more important than another one,

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<v Speaker 2>that all citizens must take care of each other and

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<v Speaker 2>any weakening of that fabric must be dealt with in

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<v Speaker 2>the harshest possible terms. But you watch where this goes

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<v Speaker 2>in the next twenty four hours. I guarantee there will

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<v Speaker 2>be discussion amongst many parts of the left wing media

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<v Speaker 2>who will try to focus on not what was said,

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<v Speaker 2>but what else was said on the video, What happened

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<v Speaker 2>a minute before, what happened a minute after?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, In the same way that you react to the

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<v Speaker 2>family members who go after the reporters standing on a

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<v Speaker 2>public street asking questions, the same should be about this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt that in a week's time there'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a whole bunch of people wanting to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>To their corners.

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<v Speaker 2>But can we use this moment of division to unite,

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<v Speaker 2>to unite about right and wrong and a ram that

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<v Speaker 2>message home to the people who have never learned it,

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<v Speaker 2>to the people who have forgotten it, or of those

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<v Speaker 2>of us who wish to restate it every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the wider issue in and around.

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Semitism and how it has got so wildly out

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<v Speaker 2>of control in the past couple of years. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a forum coming up, not this week, but

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<v Speaker 2>next week here on Sky News. If you have suggestions,

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<v Speaker 2>please write an email to Shari and her team who

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<v Speaker 2>are putting this thing together. It is some at skynews

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. It'll be on the television Thursday, the February

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth.

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<v Speaker 4>Here on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, back to the politics of what we need

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about today. Jim Chalmers, Anthony Abernezi desperately trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pull together the next budget if it is to

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<v Speaker 2>be delivered before the election, but certainly looking at forty

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<v Speaker 2>forty budget deficits in a row for the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of generations. They know that they're promised to make everything better,

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<v Speaker 2>which made everything worse has failed. And they know that

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<v Speaker 2>there are a young voters in particular who are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to drift towards the Greens and will send their preferences

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<v Speaker 2>to Labor as opposed to the other way around. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>Labor loves the idea of the Greens being able to

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<v Speaker 2>hoover up the preferences of the ride on crowd. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just they can get no more votes in the Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Party because then the Labor Party becomes the preference siphon

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<v Speaker 2>for the Greens. Well, you may will have heard today

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<v Speaker 2>about Jim Charmers running around and playing to headlines like

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<v Speaker 2>this that Jim Charmers is going to make it easier

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<v Speaker 2>for people to buy a home, particularly as a way

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<v Speaker 2>of winning over young voters to make sure they vote

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<v Speaker 2>Labor not Green.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have said it many times before and well before

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<v Speaker 2>this election year, that there are people that are willing

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for parties they have never voted before if

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<v Speaker 2>they think that they are going to create a better

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<v Speaker 2>scenario so their kids and grandkids can buy a house.

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<v Speaker 2>But as always, the devil is in the detail, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's going to be that many people

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<v Speaker 2>that will be advantaged by the new changes which have

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<v Speaker 2>been announced today. Explained here by an supporter from Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 7>Australia's financial regulators OPRAH and ASSEK have both agreed to

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<v Speaker 7>adjust the rules that means banks will no longer need

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<v Speaker 7>to consider university debt repayments if they believe the potential

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<v Speaker 7>buyer can pay it off. According to mortgage broker Pure Finance,

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<v Speaker 7>if you're earning one hundred thousand dollars, you can borrow

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<v Speaker 7>up to six hundred and eight thousand, But if you

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<v Speaker 7>have a student debt, you'd be paying off at least

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<v Speaker 7>five five hundred dollars a year, and that reduces your

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<v Speaker 7>borrowing power by nearly seventy thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Now important to note there the one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>earning university student. Now, it is going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>very long time for most people who leave university to

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<v Speaker 2>actually start earning one hundred thousand dollars. So think of,

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<v Speaker 2>firstly the total number of people with university debt in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Small number, not insigniving, but a small number. Then think

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<v Speaker 2>about the number who'll be earning one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>even smaller. Then think about the people who, after earning

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<v Speaker 2>between fifty and one hundred thousand dollars, maybill have already

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<v Speaker 2>paid off their hexstead. It's an even smaller slice, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big enough slice for the banking organizations to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the government, it's not really that much money, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not many that many customers, so we'll go along.

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<v Speaker 4>With you here.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's actually have a look at the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>the property market in Australia when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>houses that are available right now. Data available towards the

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<v Speaker 2>end of last year that has not been updated tells

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<v Speaker 2>us that the median house price for the person who

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<v Speaker 2>would get a six hundred and eight thousand dollars loan

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<v Speaker 2>for their one hundred thousand dollars, or if they are

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<v Speaker 2>still being charged the hex stuff five hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight thousand dollars, Well, it wouldn't touch the size you

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<v Speaker 2>can buy a house even a third of one in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 2>half of one in Melbourne, or a little over half

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<v Speaker 2>of one in Brisbane. A little better in other capitals.

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<v Speaker 2>But these are the three main places of population. What

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<v Speaker 2>about a unit? They wouldn't be able to afford one

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney, they might be able to squeeze one out

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<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne, and it'll be very.

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<v Speaker 1>Lineball in bruce Ban.

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<v Speaker 2>So exactly how many people are we talking about here

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<v Speaker 2>who are going to be earning one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and how much will they be able to maximum be

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<v Speaker 2>able to borrow? And how does that match up with

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers that I've just shown you.

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<v Speaker 7>Banks will no longer need to consider university debt repayments

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<v Speaker 7>if they believe the potential buyer can pay it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Four fifths Bugger all Now, yes, anything that moves the

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<v Speaker 2>ball one inch further down the field is a win.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's not pretend that this is the solution to

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. It is a government trying to say it

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<v Speaker 2>has a solution to the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And as for the rest of the almost half of

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<v Speaker 2>the country that is trying to pay a house off

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<v Speaker 2>that either they live in or it is an investment

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<v Speaker 2>property with a mortgage, we learn today about home loan

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<v Speaker 2>sizes that have now hidden new records in Australia. The

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<v Speaker 2>average homeland in Australia is now six hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six thousand dollars in New South Whilst it's eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eleven thousand dollars, and Victoria six hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand dollars and in Queensland six hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings me back to what way too.

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<v Speaker 2>Many people in an OsO compliant press gallery think is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the get out of jail free card

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<v Speaker 2>for Jim Charmers and Anthony Albanesi, which would be fingers

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<v Speaker 2>crossed a hopeful drop in interest rates, hopefully one next

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<v Speaker 2>week and potentially won during the federal election campaign, But

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<v Speaker 2>with the average home loan in the country being six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty six thousand dollars or new so whilst

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred and eleven thousand dollars, the actual truth of

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<v Speaker 2>how much more you have had to find to pay

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<v Speaker 2>off your mortgage since these people became the government is

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<v Speaker 2>as follows. An extra fifteen one thousand dollars if you

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<v Speaker 2>borrowed four hundred thousand dollars, twenty two thousand dollars if

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<v Speaker 2>you borrowed six hundred thousand dollars, twenty nine thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>if you borrowed for the average joint and the average

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<v Speaker 2>mortgage in New South Wales even higher. If you're going

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollar loan under this government, on top of

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<v Speaker 2>what you were already paying, you've had to find thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and a half thousand dollars more.

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<v Speaker 1>To pay off your loan.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've got a very big loan, because presumably

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<v Speaker 2>you've got big money coming in, you've had even bigger

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<v Speaker 2>money going out, somewhere between fourteen and forty four thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars extra. And yes, if there is an interesstrate rise,

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<v Speaker 2>there may well be a grand one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars reduction in your monthly repayments if anyone thinks that

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian people will just forgive and forget a government

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<v Speaker 2>that has presided over those numbers times two years, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's how long it's been back of course into the

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<v Speaker 2>latter part of twenty twenty two, the early part of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, when rates hit their high point. So

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<v Speaker 2>all of those numbers I just showed you double them,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how much extra since this mob came to power.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck, good luck telling everyone that we've turned the

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<v Speaker 2>corner and everything's okay. They have already had to spend,

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<v Speaker 2>for some people close to half or maybe even more

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<v Speaker 2>of a year's wages to try to desperately keep a

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<v Speaker 2>roof over their head because fingers crossed, eventually the joint

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<v Speaker 2>will be worth more than what they paid for it.

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<v Speaker 2>They pay property coplunk and what's left over that pays

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<v Speaker 2>for their retirement.

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<v Speaker 4>Place.

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<v Speaker 2>Big deal in the Federal Parliament that I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about here, which is, as you know, the House

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<v Speaker 2>of Reps and the Senate dominated by the two parties,

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<v Speaker 2>and they love to get together to always help out themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's a completely independent tribunal that regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>whether you are labor liberal, one Nation green or even

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<v Speaker 2>Lydia Thorpe or a Tiffany Teal, you have got not one,

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<v Speaker 2>but three pay rises since the last election. As I

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<v Speaker 2>showed you, federal government ministers earning four hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>sneering at the idea of a small business being able

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<v Speaker 2>to use the same tax breaks the big business does

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<v Speaker 2>to take a client to the pub for a schnitzel.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the people who always fly at the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the plane whenever they wish floating fares. That means

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<v Speaker 2>they can cancel and just get another one a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later. The people with staff who film them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but I'm sick of the

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<v Speaker 2>politicians who try to create themselves like some of social

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<v Speaker 2>media influences. Well, under this government they've got an extra staffer,

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<v Speaker 2>an extra staffer to help burnish they're online reputations.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a deal has been.

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<v Speaker 2>Done about how elections will be paid for the detail

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<v Speaker 2>I have been speaking about for some time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't stand when they.

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<v Speaker 4>Do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But they do it because it's self serving. You will

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<v Speaker 2>be able to give not twenty, but fifty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You will be able to give under five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>before anyone knows that you have been giving a particular

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<v Speaker 2>candidate money.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a spending limit per electorate of eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars. Ninety million dollars is the most that

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<v Speaker 2>can be spent by a political entity during an election campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't forget there are the independent organizations who also

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<v Speaker 2>are able to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>top of the political parties that they work with. So literally,

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<v Speaker 2>the dozens and dozens of unions will also be able

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<v Speaker 2>to spend hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal Party, the Greens, One Nation, or your community

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<v Speaker 2>independent will be outspent what four, five, six, ten to one.

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<v Speaker 2>But nothing to see here. But the true outrage is

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<v Speaker 2>the money that they will get from us, the taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 2>as a result of the electoral process. Now, in this

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<v Speaker 2>country we have compulsory voting. You are fined if you

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<v Speaker 2>do not get your name marked off the role. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a very very very small number of people

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<v Speaker 2>who will get their name marked off but not vote.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's be honest, you turn up your vote. Previously,

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<v Speaker 2>political candidates have been paid three dollars thirty five per

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<v Speaker 2>vote that they receive. That is now about to increase

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<v Speaker 2>to five dollars. Paul, Why blow your bonnet about what

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<v Speaker 2>a dollar in a bit? Because when you think about

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<v Speaker 2>how many people are enrolled to vote in Australia, which

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<v Speaker 2>is seventeen million, nine hundred and thirty nine thousand, eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighteen people. That's when you think about how

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<v Speaker 2>many people are on the electoral role. Guess what happens

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<v Speaker 2>if every one of those people vote in a lower

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<v Speaker 2>House election. It means the Australian taxpayer will be paying

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<v Speaker 2>political parties, independence and well minor parties thirty nine point

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<v Speaker 2>six million dollars, meaning we pay for their election campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>and then they find us if we choose to vote

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<v Speaker 2>or not. But don't forget we don't just have one

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<v Speaker 2>house of Parliament and this is where the five dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a vote really kicks in. Seventeen point nine million people

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<v Speaker 2>on the electoral role, House and Senate votes together seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine point three million dollars. So the rules about truth

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<v Speaker 2>and advertising they apply to the private sector, not to

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<v Speaker 2>these people. We pay for their travel, their wage, their staff,

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<v Speaker 2>their social media campaigns. They get three three pay rises

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<v Speaker 2>under this mob. They get free tickets, they get free upgrades,

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<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it. And then we the taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 2>through the AEC, hands that much money back to the

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<v Speaker 2>political parties, meaning of course that they will seek fewer donations,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that just like in Victoria where this system was

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<v Speaker 2>put in place, Queensland and Western Australia, it'll mean virtually

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<v Speaker 2>no relationship with business. Meaning just as we have seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of Victoria, you'll have more and more parties,

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<v Speaker 2>more and more governments that won't care about business. And remember,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven percent of all business in Australia is small,

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<v Speaker 2>with fewer than nineteen employees. Of that ninety seven percent,

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<v Speaker 2>almost seventy percent are sole traders who represent them in

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<v Speaker 2>forthcoming elections. What I hate about our lurch to the

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<v Speaker 2>left and those that have cheered it on, is the

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<v Speaker 2>way that government is able to try to create a

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<v Speaker 2>permanent majority for itself is that they want a triangle

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<v Speaker 2>of dependence where either you need the government for the

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<v Speaker 2>welfare handout, and any suggestion that that could be taken

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<v Speaker 2>away is a reason to keep voting for the same

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<v Speaker 2>party of government. Or they hire a football stadium more

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<v Speaker 2>of public servants, which is a reason to keep voting

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<v Speaker 2>for the same government. Or even if you're in private business,

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<v Speaker 2>your biggest client is the government and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to piss them off. Meaning that those of us who

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<v Speaker 2>live outside of that triangle were allowed, We're strong, but

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<v Speaker 2>it won't be the majority of Australia. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad deal one of course, that they will gladly sign

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<v Speaker 2>off on, slap each other on the back, and then make.

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<v Speaker 1>Their way towards the exit doors for an.

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<v Speaker 2>Election that we will pay for and you get fined

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<v Speaker 2>if you do not wish to participate.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievad Can I talk to Donald Trumpy for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>or two?

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<v Speaker 2>Is time now, As you know, I've not got too

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<v Speaker 2>deep into Trump tariffs and the panic in and around

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<v Speaker 2>all of it, because when you talk to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>as our Prime minister does, and you know, I'm no

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<v Speaker 2>fan of albow, but he was on the phone for

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes. If we were going to get screwed, it

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 2>would not would not have taken a phone call, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone had one for forty minutes, so I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get there. However, one of the key people

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<v Speaker 2>in Trump's hereies his Trade Envoy and he is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>ripping Australia, suggesting that we have been screwing them over

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to aluminium. And all of this goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to a meeting when Scott Morrison was the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>which means bring on the Turnbull times to say all

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<v Speaker 2>of this is Scott Morrison's fault. Well, firstly, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>no country's getting an exemption it it doesn't matter what any

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<v Speaker 2>country was doing. And secondly, haven't we had a different

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<v Speaker 2>government for now three years who would have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to honor such an arrangement. But of course there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to see here. It's all still the former government's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I was mentioning before JFK, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>new oversight body which is about to be launched in

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<v Speaker 2>the US House of Representatives, which is going to go after.

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<v Speaker 4>The big stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to go after JFK. What really happened Martin

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<v Speaker 2>Luther King, what really happened all of this stuff? It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a fascinating thing. In the next little while.

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<v Speaker 2>They claim they've found more than forty thousand new files

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<v Speaker 2>in and around the JFK assassination. And the person who

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be leading it up well believes in

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<v Speaker 2>the two shooter theory, which, of course, in my view,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone with a brain would why because the magic bullet.

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<v Speaker 4>Is bears.

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<v Speaker 1>The initial hearing that was actually held here in Congress

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<v Speaker 1>was actually faulty in the single bullet theory.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that there were two shooters.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the Warren Commission, the report of the bullet ding

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<v Speaker 2>Ding ding ding doesn't work like that, all right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the only conspiracy theory of openly wonder about. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>quick break back with more looking forward to this. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to wrap up nice and early with my stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because ding dong. They are both in the man cave.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it. Brom and Bishop Stephen Conroy, Meghan Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>don't move. Don't move because I can see you don't move.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much for watching wherever you happen to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Conroy's already starting before even.

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<v Speaker 4>He produced him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's that excited to be this last to Rodman Vishop

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<v Speaker 1>here in the man cave. Hello, Hello, and welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>for this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll have plenty to agree on. One thing

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to unify on and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to spend too much time, and it only because it

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<v Speaker 2>has been well established how Australia feels about these two

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<v Speaker 2>people when it comes to the video, these nurses, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had my say on top of what everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>has said all night. But Bromwin, how can I not

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<v Speaker 2>get to get your end Stephen's opinion on how oddly

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<v Speaker 2>we have slid as a nation when people behave like this.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, when I saw that video, the anger that welled

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<v Speaker 8>within me. I can hardly express to see that happen

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<v Speaker 8>in my country to people we've invited into this country.

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<v Speaker 8>To speak of that and then try and pass it

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<v Speaker 8>off as a joke, I just feel ballistic. Those people

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<v Speaker 8>have no right to remain registered nurses. They must never

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<v Speaker 8>be allowed to work again. But there has to be

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<v Speaker 8>a thorough investigation. Are there more of them? Are they

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<v Speaker 8>part of the chatquib? How far has it gone already?

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<v Speaker 8>I've heard the new South Wales minister say he will

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<v Speaker 8>do an investigation to see if any people who were

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<v Speaker 8>Jewish actually died and go through the go through it properly.

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<v Speaker 8>What do we get from alban easy wooly, weasily words

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<v Speaker 8>in question time? I mean, this country has slid because

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<v Speaker 8>no firm action was taken from the time of that

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<v Speaker 8>demonstration on the steps of the Opera House, and it

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<v Speaker 8>let the genie out of the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>But to see that hatred spilling out of.

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<v Speaker 8>Those people's mouths who have been given so much by

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<v Speaker 8>this country and have no respect for the culture in

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<v Speaker 8>which they live, has to ask a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 8>new questions about how we invite people to this country,

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<v Speaker 8>how we look after our culture, and how we say

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<v Speaker 8>this is a country and culture that won't tolerate that

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<v Speaker 8>hate well.

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<v Speaker 1>And also do.

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<v Speaker 8>Those two have an association with that preacher who said

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<v Speaker 8>he was elated and delighted at the massacre of the

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<v Speaker 8>twelve hundred yees?

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<v Speaker 1>Of what I've read, are they attached?

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<v Speaker 8>All that needs to be known and not covered up,

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<v Speaker 8>not weasel words. It all has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Exposed because also it means something that's been clear today, Stephen,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that the bloke apparently came here as an

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<v Speaker 2>eleven year old. We don't know the full bio on

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<v Speaker 2>the woman, whether she was born here or came with

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<v Speaker 2>another family. But this is this not an insight into

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a fundamental failure of how open Australia has been, but

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>how Australia has failed to be able to say that

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<v Speaker 2>to a young person who comes here with all of

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<v Speaker 2>its opportunities, that you don't that you end up behaving

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Look. I mean it is sicking that these people feel

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<v Speaker 4>so emboldened. I think that's the really disturbing part, and

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 4>they think they can actually proudly boast behave that way

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<v Speaker 4>on camera, and it cost a lot of the points.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, not obviously with everything brom Win said, but

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<v Speaker 4>with most of what Bromwin said. I think Ryan Parks

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<v Speaker 4>has played a blinder today. It's credit for taking full

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<v Speaker 4>on head on and saying not on my watch. So

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<v Speaker 4>congratulations to Ryan. So I am sickened, I'm disgusted, and

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<v Speaker 4>it does raise questions of how we've allowed it to

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<v Speaker 4>get to this point that people have got no gratitude

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 4>being welcome to our country. The openness which we embrace

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 4>and allow support freedom of religion, all religions where.

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<v Speaker 1>What you want, believe in what you do exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>However, you know that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a point where you got you do not cross

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<v Speaker 4>this line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And these two and others are wager they are way

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<v Speaker 4>over this line, and they've got to be told on

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<v Speaker 4>ambiguous terms. It's not accepted.

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<v Speaker 8>They've got to be prosecuted. In my view, Well, we've

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<v Speaker 8>got enough legislation there. They need to be prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Let's talk about a hangover from the Victorian

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<v Speaker 2>by elections, and an incredible detail we were just talking

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>about before, which is they're going to wait. They have

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>done no more counting, right, so we don't know what's

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>happening in Werriby. Insteads multiple days and on Friday, I think,

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>which is when the last of something may trickle through

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>the letterbox. That's when they're going to do one last count.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>We might get some indication, if not result, on Friday.

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But let's let's talk brass tax here. Stephen, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian guy, you know Victorian politics, numbers and all the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>How much trouble is labor actually in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll start with a state labor government. The premier come out,

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<v Speaker 4>we've heard your message. She then said, I'm doubling down.

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.239
<v Speaker 4>She's shown some courage in talking about how we've got

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with some crime, the bail issues that took

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot of courage. Now needs to show the same

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 4>amount of courage and accept the message she's trying to

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 4>sell to the western northern Melbourne suburbs is not resonating.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 4>They don't want it. This suburban rail loop is not

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<v Speaker 4>something that is a saleable political issue for communities where

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<v Speaker 4>even the polling booth has to be delayed the count

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 4>because the roof is leaking. Yeah, that just says, oh

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 4>my god, what is going on here? You can't even

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<v Speaker 4>do the count on the day because of the infrastructure Rundown.

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 4>I speak to a lot of the westerns of federal

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<v Speaker 4>and state MPs and they are very upset about a

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<v Speaker 4>focus on the SrAl and the Premier can pretend that

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 4>that's not what's really going on, but the message is

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<v Speaker 4>very cliche. Since you heard the message, well the messages

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to change priorities correct and so at a

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<v Speaker 4>state level, I'm not writing off the Victorian governments, but

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to be more embracing and not just narrowly

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<v Speaker 4>focused on those suburbs federally. Federally, it puts in play

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 4>a range of seats that should never be in play

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<v Speaker 4>for Labor Party. The one saving grace out of a

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<v Speaker 4>very bad weekend was that, you know, we dropped sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>points on primary. They lived barely pick up four percent,

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<v Speaker 4>So that same sort of circumstances would still see us

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<v Speaker 4>probably hold most of those seats that could be vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 4>from the mckiwens in the north right round to the

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<v Speaker 4>Hawk and a Lawler, but very worrying signs that brand

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Labor is being badly affected in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>So then, Bromman, how does the Liberal Party get itself

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<v Speaker 2>to a position that between now when the federal election,

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<v Speaker 2>if people have moved away from the Labor Party and

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the numbers in which we all seem that they don't

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>go on the long road around that either one or

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>two is for the alternative government. Because again just at

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<v Speaker 2>all of our knowledge of how this works is that

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a Melbourne cup field of anyone but a

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Liberal that's running, they all end up preferencing each other,

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>meaning the Liberals aren't going to go anywhere. Today, Clyde

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Palmer failed to be able to reregister the United Australia Party,

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>which means one of two high profile national parties to

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<v Speaker 2>the right which would have delivered preferences as they did

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen as they didn't in twenty two. Meaning there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work there when it comes to one

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>nation because outside of that, no one's going to be

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 2>preferencing the Libs.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's not necessarily so you can get some independents

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 8>who are right wing candidates. Well, but I just have

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 8>a memory of the nineteen ninety election Pork was riding high,

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 8>Peacock was the leader, and Andrew Peacock won nine seats

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 8>in Victoria, not one in New South Wales, not one,

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 8>but nine in Victoria. So there are plenty of examples

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 8>where things occur, where they change, And I think there

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 8>is a momentum that has swung behind Peter Dutton. They

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 8>are looking for something else. Now he's got time to

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 8>roll out whatever the pitch will be with the actual election.

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 8>He's not going to do it prematurely, but you can

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 8>bet the work's been going on.

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing that I wanted to talk to

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 2>both of you about, which is traditionally the way an

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>election will work is you thirty three day campaign month

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and a bit right.

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Generally crests weekend before at your party conference. That also

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 2>means that's when you start paying for your travel, not

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 2>the taxpayer. And then it all runs towards election day.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.959
<v Speaker 2>How many state elections, how many federal elections half vote

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>early meaning the actual election you have to cress halfway

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>through the campaign, meaning if you're waiting till the day

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that the starts, gun goes off to fire off, your

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>social media strategy, your radio ads, all the rest of it.

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Guess what, it's not going to connect the way that

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 2>it has in the past. So I've got to say

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I have a concern about both the government and the

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>alternative government about what their message is going to be

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>because they're playing one out in the news, but there's

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of people who don't watch the news,

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>aren't connected to the news. Would your advice be to

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>both of your sides start doing it now?

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Start doing it now.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Because if it's between now and May, you want to

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 2>carpet bomb ads that people will repeat back to you,

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>not just do it for two weeks when we're distracted

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 2>by footy or anything else.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I've got to say there's I think some good

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 8>precedents in how the voice was handled. Now there was

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 8>a There was a build up that then allowed a

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 8>statement to be made by Dutton, and then the roll

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 8>out happened. I suggest there'll be a similar sort of strategy,

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 8>but that.

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Was a process of a month. We're now into week's

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Stephen in terms would.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 4>Conceivably call it in three weeks time. Yeah, I mean,

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 4>so he goes for in April twelve. He's calling it

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 4>on March ten.

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 2>So KOs Samaras, who is with the Red Bridge. We

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>talked to him every Sunday night. He says that the

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>whole these are all the things that Dutton's voted against.

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>The only AD that's out of the moment is really

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>about locking in soft labor voters. It's not about flipping

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>anyone else. As a political tactician does that fact that

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>everyone votes two weeks before election.

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 4>I think the port you're making is absolutely spot on.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 4>You can't have that crescendo. I mean, I remember you

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 4>used to know I've sat inside the central organization. Now

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 4>your first week, how much spend your second week, how

0:36:55.560 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 4>much spending ads? You cannot do that crescendo today is worked.

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 4>You need to be, as you said, peaking almost we

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 4>have second week.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 8>We've moved away from an election day to an election period. Yes,

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 8>and that is that is simply the reality of it.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it used to be that the big launch

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 8>was only held days before election day because that was

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 8>the way it could be funded, the cost of the

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 8>travel and all that sort of stuff.

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>But I just think, but also when they're about to

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>get what after this little dirty deal, what eighty million

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>dollars in money back.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 4>For the dirty liberals?

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Liberals Liberal they made you do it, You made me

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>do it, all right, So look just about interest rates.

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I've made the point for the past couple of nights.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Look as somebody paying off a mortgage half the damn

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>things right, please, please, please, But the clearly the pump

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 2>priming of the canbra press is this is the moment,

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 2>this is the circuit breaker. The second it goes down

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>by a quarter of represent then where everyone floods towards

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the government. I repeat all those stats that I said before.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>If you've had to fine between fourteen and thirty eight

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars extra to pay off your mortgage since the

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>start of the government, no one's cuddling anyone at one

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bucks off a month.

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 8>No, No, they're not. But nonetheless they'll be hoping because

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 8>I think this will be a momentum, little start that

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 8>they think there's more to come, and they've their policies

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 8>and their situation has been so bad that anything that

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 8>comes their way that we think is, oh, we can

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 8>grab onto that and go. But as the charmers look,

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry season to say it, but the snake charmer,

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 8>it's all fantasy. It's all illusion to the lips flap,

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 8>but nothing happening.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just just beggars belief.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Jim's a friend of mine. Let me be

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 4>very clear about this. That would be nice perspect He's

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 4>got the prospect of possibly a third surplus. Maybe, so

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 4>that's a maybe, that's a positive. Maybe interest rate cut

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 4>will be a small down payment, but I stress the

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 4>word small down payment. Yeah. And so what that does allow, though,

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 4>is I think problems that maybe a bit of momentum

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 4>to be behind the economic story. And I think at

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 4>the moment where done is weakest is on an economic story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I don't agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a bit of a blank space.

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<v Speaker 8>No, No, here's question, are you better off?

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<v Speaker 4>Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great line.

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<v Speaker 2>To the point where is that in the advertising now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't cost any money. And I've been I've

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<v Speaker 2>been watching this. I'm going to do a thing next week, right,

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>which is having a look at what all the different

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>local MPs are doing and how they get their message out. Right,

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of really bad street theater from labor MPs,

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>but we've saved it. Also, don't bother deleting it.

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<v Speaker 4>We've already got it on the server.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of liberal sort of sitting in a

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 2>desk responding to things. But how hard is it to

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<v Speaker 2>get a kid canvas and to write on a screen

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>insert electorate you'r has gone up by, has gone up by,

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<v Speaker 2>has gone up by?

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't they doing that?

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<v Speaker 8>That one I can answer because I think it's a

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<v Speaker 8>damn yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I mean to me, if you were running

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<v Speaker 2>in the opposition, it's this thing. You've got your core flutes.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Here's the Stop showing me your face. Just say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know in the seed of insert, you've had to pay

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 2>this this and then see what happens, all right. You

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>know Steven's agreeing, but desperately not trying to move at all,

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 2>because if he moves a muscle, then then he knows

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the Life membership is in danger. I've got forty five seconds,

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>but I simply maybe have to go yes no here.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I think we get an exemption from Trump eventually. The

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 2>things don't kick until March, and he had a forty

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>minute call. If he isn't into us, he doesn't do

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>the forty minute call, I think we're getting one.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 8>I hope we are because it's in the national interest,

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 8>but I'm not convinced.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, look, I think it will be drawn out. He's

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<v Speaker 4>clearly shown deal it with Trudeau, and he's helped destroy Trudeau.

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 4>He's been chasing Starmer. He's gone hard there. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>mind interfering in other countries political elections. I think he

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 4>will draw it out. I think ultimately we should get one,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 4>but I think you'll draw it out, possibly past your election.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.439
<v Speaker 2>I've gotta say Navarro did worry me ever so slightly today,

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 2>where I thought, oh, hang on, if he's the last

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 2>man in.

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<v Speaker 8>The room, we wouldn't be making that statement without someone

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<v Speaker 8>knowing who's going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it correct?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the screaming of me because Megan Kelly is next.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, all the best hopefully get better

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and we look forward to seeing you again in the

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 2>man cave asap.

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, mate, morn is sick you all married.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Last our favorite time of the week, because it's time

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to talk to our favorite person in the world. Meghan

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Kelly for the Megan Kelly Show YouTube podcast, Serious exam but.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Most importantly right now on Sky News. Hello, Rockstar.

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 3>How are you doing?

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Paul Ah? Not as good as you? What about you?

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>You don't just go to the super Bowl Meghan Kelly style.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 2>You don't go to the super Bowl. You take your

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>beautiful boy with you. You're sit in the box. Oh yeah,

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and the President's over there. Tell what was the super

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Bowl like?

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 6>It was very cool.

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I have to say. I even I was excited, and

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even a sports person, but we were invited

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 3>to go by YouTube. We said yes, and it just

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 3>so happened that my husband's team, the Philadelphia Eagles, made

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 3>it into the Big Game and then ultimately won, So

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>he was as happy as could be. We sit down

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 3>in this fancy, you know suite that YouTube had, and

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I look over to my right and there is Taylor

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Swift getting booed by the entire stadium, and I look

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 3>over my left and there's there's President Trump. I'm like,

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, right in between these two, and he's

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 3>getting cheers and she's getting jeers.

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It was fine.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 3>At that point. I was like, I'm just going to

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 3>slink back in my little seat right here and keep

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 3>watching because this is great theater.

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you get a chat?

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I know he had the Sophie, but was it Was

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 2>it much of a chat with the president?

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we did get to chat a bit, and he

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 3>was in a great mood. He was super happy. Even then.

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 3>He was very focused on the fact that Taylor got booed,

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 3>was very happy that she got.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:08.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, look, I get that most powerful person

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>in the world. All the rest I love. I love

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't forgive.

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And I love that he could be a bit pity

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>every now and then.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, she thought, she was putting the

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 2>final stake into the heart.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Of the vampire.

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>He did after the debate, and he's just turned around

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 2>and go, sorry, sorry, who's the winner out? Look at

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the scoreboard, literally, look at the scoreboard.

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Who could blame him?

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Exactly right?

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 3>And there she was, and she looked fuddled at the

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 3>fact that people were booing her as if like, do

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 3>they not know it's me? It is high Taylor Swift,

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Why on earth would you would you boo me? It's like,

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 3>because you got political, you took a risk. It didn't

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 3>pan out.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 3>As I said said on my show, this is the

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 3>FO part of the FAFO calculation. You decided to get political,

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 3>you decided to endorse a candidate. You decided to say

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 3>it was because of Tim Wallace's LGBTQ stance, which is insane.

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 3>It shows you're all a radical leftist, not just like

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>a mild moderate democrat, and so we're over you. On

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 3>top of which, she's totally overexposed. We're sick of her.

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Even my kids are like, why do they keep showing

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 3>her at these games? My little guy, he's only eleven,

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, Mom, they showed Taylor Swift the whole game.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 3>They never showed Trump except for the first time when

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 3>they sang the national anthem. Even he's getting it. So

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>everyone's just sick of her. It's overexposure. We're tired of her.

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 3>A little booh booh me act. I'll say this too.

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>I think the guys having the time of his life.

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 3>He had spent the morning golfing with Tiger Woods, which

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 3>is like every golfer's dream. Then he flies out there

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 3>to the Super Bowl where he gets the great sweet seats.

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 3>He's sitting next to his daughter, Ivanka, who they all

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>call the princess in the family because everyone loves her,

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 3>but Trump loves her. She's clearly his favorite, and they

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 3>they're all very good natured about that relationship. They think

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 3>it's sweet.

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's unpack again a little bit more about what we

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>learn about the sixty minutes stuff, where clearly they were

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 2>at the very least benefit of the doubt shining the

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 2>shoe of Kamala Harris in that interview. Now, the full

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 2>interview was obviously longer than what they put to air,

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 2>but that's what they do. They shoot, you know, for

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 2>an hour to eventually cut down to whatever, ten fifteen minutes.

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>But what's come out after the raw tape has been

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.280
<v Speaker 2>released is all of the little benefits of the doubt,

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the little moments that would otherwise have exposed the blithering

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 2>idiot that America rejected, but they chose not to show

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 2>those moments because of course they were on her side.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yet another mark against a type of media that wants

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 2>to just be dishonest.

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<v Speaker 1>Release the full tape.

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, edit it down for the Sunday Night Show, but

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 2>release the full tape.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe once it became a controversy they didn't

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 3>just do that. They acted like it was a state secret,

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, like we will never you know never. It's like,

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, this isn't a classified document. This wasn't

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 3>something to you by a source with the understanding that

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 3>you would only reveal part of it, all of which

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I could understand. This is an interview with a candidate

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 3>for president, She's the Democratic nominee for president. Why you

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 3>should be doing it anyway? Never mind once a controversy

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 3>has erupted about whether you've been fair. And I can

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 3>only conclude, having seen the transcript now because the one

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 3>inane answer that caused all the trouble for them, it

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 3>wasn't good, but it wasn't a cardinal sin what they

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 3>did there. But if you look at the overall transcript,

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 3>what you glean is that they ran cover for her.

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Her most vapid, empty headed maronic answers all fell out

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.760
<v Speaker 3>of the interview and were left on the editing room floor.

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 3>And so when you read it. It does show a

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 3>pattern of protection. What we found out about that one

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 3>infamous answer in response to which Netanyahu does not appear

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.479
<v Speaker 3>to be listening to you, was they teased one piece

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 3>of the answer on Sunday and then they ran a

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 3>different piece of the answer on Monday, and people wanted

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 3>to know what else was in the answer. Well, the

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 3>answer to that is nothing. The whole answer was those

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 3>two pieces merged together. Now, the one they used in

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the teas on Sunday made her sound especially dumb and incomprehensible,

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 3>which is a feat, and somebody decided they would do

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 3>her solid and run be slightly more comprehensible, but still

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 3>a kind of answer on sixty minutes, which is what

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 3>they did. And when you string them together, she sounds

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 3>even dumber.

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 4>But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 6>in a number of movements in that region by Israel

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 6>that were very much prompted by or a result of

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 6>many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 6>in the region.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 3>But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah, who is not

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 3>We're not going.

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<v Speaker 6>To stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 6>to be clear about where we stand on the need

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 6>for this war to end.

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Typical Kamala Harris. It was three hundred words to say

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 3>ten words. So they did definitely do a solid for her.

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 3>But then you read the rest of the transcript and

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 3>what wound up on the editing room floor ambitions, aspirations,

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 3>hopes and dreams, and I just really believe, I believe right,

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 3>And she goes into her little bits that she did

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 3>everywhere on the campaign trail that were full of nothing,

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 3>empty calories. So why did they do that? The people

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>at sixty minutes are not dumb. There are many journalists

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:47.800
<v Speaker 3>who are many, but the people who work at sixty

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 3>are not stupid. They're biased, but they're not dumb. And

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 3>so they did that. I don't believe it was because

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 3>they thought it would be bad TV. I think they

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 3>did it because they understood it would subject her to

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:03.479
<v Speaker 3>the same feeling among the audience that they undoubtedly had

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 3>when they saw it, which is good. God, here she

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 3>goes again, she's an idiot, like she has nothing substantive

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 3>to say. This is sixty minutes, This isn't the view,

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 3>this isn't Oprah say something meaningful?

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:19.720
<v Speaker 1>And you see, they had.

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Their little scissors that we used to use when we

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.800
<v Speaker 3>were in first grade to cut out the little gingerbread man,

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 3>and they tried to cut out a real presidential candidate

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 3>who could speak on issues and not sound completely off

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 3>point or like she was trying to rally her sorority

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 3>for a night of wine. They failed, but they did

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the best they could. And I think that's why they

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't release the transcript, because you know, front to back,

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 3>that's what you walk away with. They protected her.

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the gingerbread man would have been

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.919
<v Speaker 2>smarter than Kamala Harris could have dreamt to be during

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 2>her presidential run. All right, Megan, love me to say

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you will see you again next waite go the best.

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me see you soon.

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I need you hope for a pop taste. This is

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the first of this election year. Send me an email.

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<v Speaker 2>Pubtest at sky news dot com dot you. It is

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<v Speaker 2>not this but next Monday set of Gilmour in and

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<v Speaker 2>around Bateman's Bay. Pubtest at skynews dot com dot Au.

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<v Speaker 2>Tickets going fast, but let's fill the room.