Speaker 1: From the Sky New Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: I mate, come into the man Cave because we have
Speaker 2: got a big one for you tonight. It'll be bursting
Speaker 2: with debate and great guests tonight.
Speaker 1: Housing and who will be able to afford it.
Speaker 2: Into the future be issue in coming into the election,
Speaker 2: but a bit of false hope being offered by the
Speaker 2: federal government.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 2: I'll explain why another probe decades on is going to
Speaker 2: have a look at everything to do with JFK, and
Speaker 2: one of the people in charge of it says there
Speaker 2: was probably another shooter. And the great Megan Kelly joins
Speaker 2: us from the United States fresh from going to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl with Donald Trump, and.
Speaker 3: He was in a great mood. He was super happy.
Speaker 3: Even then he was very focused on the fact that
Speaker 3: Taylor got mood.
Speaker 4: Are you happy that you got?
Speaker 2: But first, I am going to start where everyone else
Speaker 2: has apologies for the repetition here, but how can we
Speaker 2: not how can we not talk about the racism and
Speaker 2: the racism of those.
Speaker 1: People that work in the health service.
Speaker 2: Now, I agree with everything that's been said by all
Speaker 2: of my colleagues, so I know you've heard it fourteen times,
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to go over it, but I
Speaker 2: agree with what's been said. This stuff is an absolute disgrace.
Speaker 2: They can say it's a joke, they can say that
Speaker 2: they're sorry, but the reality is that the behavior is
Speaker 2: absolutely appalling. The behavior of the female nurse's family no
Speaker 2: better today when the media came knocking.
Speaker 1: Broke.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm on, you know, what do you have to
Speaker 4: say about the allegation? Tell me, excuse me walking towards
Speaker 4: the faith.
Speaker 3: Mate, mate, mate to me, all right, all right, okay,
Speaker 3: I need my phone back.
Speaker 4: What has happened.
Speaker 5: I don't understand what's happened. I haven't been able to
Speaker 5: talk to us. She's in a freaking extreme panic attack
Speaker 5: at the prison time. I'm trying to calm it down,
Speaker 5: to see what She's been a nurse for God knows
Speaker 5: how long, She's never done anything to hurt anyone.
Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever. What was said on that video is clearly unforgivable,
Speaker 2: clearly a new low. But I wanted to take this
Speaker 2: to a bigger conversation, a more dangerous conversation, but one
Speaker 2: that I'm going to have anyway. Why wouldn't these two
Speaker 2: people think that they were going to get away with it?
Speaker 2: When what was the response to people marching on the
Speaker 2: Sydney Opera House, Well, nothing, no arrests. Instead, of course,
Speaker 2: the great effort was not into what was happening, but
Speaker 2: instead what you may or may not have heard police
Speaker 2: openly admitting that they were being overwhelmed with numbers as
Speaker 2: opposed to responding to numbers. We have failed to hold
Speaker 2: to account the people when it comes to stupid protests.
Speaker 2: We have failed to hold to account the people who
Speaker 2: have spoken words of hate. And this is yes, since
Speaker 2: October seven, twenty twenty three, but it's.
Speaker 1: Deeper and it's longer.
Speaker 2: We also failed to hold anyone to serious account when
Speaker 2: they are waving around flags of foreign nations and they
Speaker 2: are seemingly more fired up about what's happening somewhere else
Speaker 2: than what should be.
Speaker 1: Social cohesion here. But let's be really clear.
Speaker 2: Australia has a very large, extended hand to anyone from
Speaker 2: anywhere in the world to come and join us. But
Speaker 2: where we have failed, and I mean governments and institutions
Speaker 2: and societies, is that we have, out of some sort
Speaker 2: of sensitivity, allowed to breed a sense of entitlement in
Speaker 2: people that they would feel like they can say what
Speaker 2: they said on that video. Now, interestingly and amazingly, not
Speaker 2: a single significant Islamic group in Australia has come out
Speaker 2: to condemn what has been said, to say that a
Speaker 2: patient in a hospital could die or receive adverse care
Speaker 2: that would kill them if they were Jewish, if they
Speaker 2: were Israeli.
Speaker 1: Now we know.
Speaker 2: That the failure to do so only causes bigger problems
Speaker 2: in the community. Now, this is not a moment, and
Speaker 2: I will not accept any dog whistle that there needs
Speaker 2: to be some sort of response to this other than
Speaker 2: what happens at the official level. We have made too
Speaker 2: many mistakes for too long, and the greatest sign of
Speaker 2: those mistakes is that the children of people who have
Speaker 2: come to this country, who have extended the peace of
Speaker 2: this nation, are often the loudest ones on the streets
Speaker 2: or online saying the dumbest and most evil of things.
Speaker 1: I do not care of what God you believe in
Speaker 1: or don't.
Speaker 2: I do not care where your family is from and
Speaker 2: what happened in a former life. I do not care
Speaker 2: if you are someone who was born here and seeks
Speaker 2: to play out historic rights and wrongs on the streets
Speaker 2: of this country.
Speaker 1: It is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: But the stern words of politicians today are too little,
Speaker 2: too late. How have citizens gone through the daycare system,
Speaker 2: the primary school system, the high school, tafe, university.
Speaker 1: Or our workplaces.
Speaker 2: And come out the end of that process feeling emboldened
Speaker 2: to say what has been said.
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I like that the Nisa Whals government has got one
Speaker 2: heck of a swagger about it and loves pointing a
Speaker 2: finger and has taken seemingly quick action here.
Speaker 1: But let's not let them off the hook.
Speaker 2: How many of the anti Semitic attacks have taken place
Speaker 2: in New South Wales in the term of this government.
Speaker 2: What have they done to change the education systems? What
Speaker 2: have they done to put pride in this nation at
Speaker 2: front and center of the Australian story. I am sick
Speaker 2: and tired of people pretending that the symptom is what
Speaker 2: needs to be dealt with, not the problem. For those
Speaker 2: that are half paying attention, looking forward to run off
Speaker 2: to an umpire somewhere or when this will be inevitably
Speaker 2: taken out of context by people on the internet or
Speaker 2: those who hate this broadcast. I am very happy for
Speaker 2: people to come from anywhere in the world and believe
Speaker 2: in whatever they believe in. But but regardless of whether
Speaker 2: your arrival was generations ago or was a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, this joint first, and this joint first means
Speaker 2: that somebody with a yamaka or a hijab should be
Speaker 2: able to walk the same side of the street without disputation.
Speaker 2: I have had enough of it. But the problem is
Speaker 2: is that there is no solution that is possible when
Speaker 2: much of the problem is the second generation our fellow Australians.
Speaker 2: Much needs to change, and we have seen that when
Speaker 2: a culture wants to change and change very quickly, it
Speaker 2: decides what is appropriate and not appropriate. Anyone who works
Speaker 2: in any office of any size spends more time on
Speaker 2: training about what to say and not to say at
Speaker 2: work than we do on fire drills, and good because
Speaker 2: it means people learn how to get along. That message
Speaker 2: is failing and I want politicians who do not just
Speaker 2: stand up for the twelve hours when everyone is yelling,
Speaker 2: but are committed to it twenty four hours a day
Speaker 2: and seven days a week, that regardless of the makeup
Speaker 2: of our community, it is united around one purpose, which
Speaker 2: is one citizen is not more important than another one,
Speaker 2: that all citizens must take care of each other and
Speaker 2: any weakening of that fabric must be dealt with in
Speaker 2: the harshest possible terms. But you watch where this goes
Speaker 2: in the next twenty four hours. I guarantee there will
Speaker 2: be discussion amongst many parts of the left wing media
Speaker 2: who will try to focus on not what was said,
Speaker 2: but what else was said on the video, What happened
Speaker 2: a minute before, what happened a minute after?
Speaker 1: Where did it come from?
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: No, In the same way that you react to the
Speaker 2: family members who go after the reporters standing on a
Speaker 2: public street asking questions, the same should be about this story.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt that in a week's time there'll
Speaker 2: be a whole bunch of people wanting to go back.
Speaker 1: To their corners.
Speaker 2: But can we use this moment of division to unite,
Speaker 2: to unite about right and wrong and a ram that
Speaker 2: message home to the people who have never learned it,
Speaker 2: to the people who have forgotten it, or of those
Speaker 2: of us who wish to restate it every day.
Speaker 1: Of the wider issue in and around.
Speaker 2: Anti Semitism and how it has got so wildly out
Speaker 2: of control in the past couple of years. You know,
Speaker 2: we've got a forum coming up, not this week, but
Speaker 2: next week here on Sky News. If you have suggestions,
Speaker 2: please write an email to Shari and her team who
Speaker 2: are putting this thing together. It is some at skynews
Speaker 2: dot com. It'll be on the television Thursday, the February
Speaker 2: the twentieth.
Speaker 4: Here on Sky News.
Speaker 2: All right, back to the politics of what we need
Speaker 2: to talk about today. Jim Chalmers, Anthony Abernezi desperately trying
Speaker 2: to pull together the next budget if it is to
Speaker 2: be delivered before the election, but certainly looking at forty
Speaker 2: forty budget deficits in a row for the next couple
Speaker 2: of generations. They know that they're promised to make everything better,
Speaker 2: which made everything worse has failed. And they know that
Speaker 2: there are a young voters in particular who are starting
Speaker 2: to drift towards the Greens and will send their preferences
Speaker 2: to Labor as opposed to the other way around. You see,
Speaker 2: Labor loves the idea of the Greens being able to
Speaker 2: hoover up the preferences of the ride on crowd. It's
Speaker 2: just they can get no more votes in the Labor
Speaker 2: Party because then the Labor Party becomes the preference siphon
Speaker 2: for the Greens. Well, you may will have heard today
Speaker 2: about Jim Charmers running around and playing to headlines like
Speaker 2: this that Jim Charmers is going to make it easier
Speaker 2: for people to buy a home, particularly as a way
Speaker 2: of winning over young voters to make sure they vote
Speaker 2: Labor not Green.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I have said it many times before and well before
Speaker 2: this election year, that there are people that are willing
Speaker 2: to vote for parties they have never voted before if
Speaker 2: they think that they are going to create a better
Speaker 2: scenario so their kids and grandkids can buy a house.
Speaker 2: But as always, the devil is in the detail, and
Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be that many people
Speaker 2: that will be advantaged by the new changes which have
Speaker 2: been announced today. Explained here by an supporter from Channel nine.
Speaker 7: Australia's financial regulators OPRAH and ASSEK have both agreed to
Speaker 7: adjust the rules that means banks will no longer need
Speaker 7: to consider university debt repayments if they believe the potential
Speaker 7: buyer can pay it off. According to mortgage broker Pure Finance,
Speaker 7: if you're earning one hundred thousand dollars, you can borrow
Speaker 7: up to six hundred and eight thousand, But if you
Speaker 7: have a student debt, you'd be paying off at least
Speaker 7: five five hundred dollars a year, and that reduces your
Speaker 7: borrowing power by nearly seventy thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Now important to note there the one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: earning university student. Now, it is going to take a
Speaker 2: very long time for most people who leave university to
Speaker 2: actually start earning one hundred thousand dollars. So think of,
Speaker 2: firstly the total number of people with university debt in Australia.
Speaker 2: Small number, not insigniving, but a small number. Then think
Speaker 2: about the number who'll be earning one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: even smaller. Then think about the people who, after earning
Speaker 2: between fifty and one hundred thousand dollars, maybill have already
Speaker 2: paid off their hexstead. It's an even smaller slice, but
Speaker 2: it's a big enough slice for the banking organizations to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're the government, it's not really that much money, it's
Speaker 2: not many that many customers, so we'll go along.
Speaker 4: With you here.
Speaker 2: But let's actually have a look at the reality of
Speaker 2: the property market in Australia when it comes to the
Speaker 2: houses that are available right now. Data available towards the
Speaker 2: end of last year that has not been updated tells
Speaker 2: us that the median house price for the person who
Speaker 2: would get a six hundred and eight thousand dollars loan
Speaker 2: for their one hundred thousand dollars, or if they are
Speaker 2: still being charged the hex stuff five hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars, Well, it wouldn't touch the size you
Speaker 2: can buy a house even a third of one in Sydney,
Speaker 2: half of one in Melbourne, or a little over half
Speaker 2: of one in Brisbane. A little better in other capitals.
Speaker 2: But these are the three main places of population. What
Speaker 2: about a unit? They wouldn't be able to afford one
Speaker 2: in Sydney, they might be able to squeeze one out
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, and it'll be very.
Speaker 1: Lineball in bruce Ban.
Speaker 2: So exactly how many people are we talking about here
Speaker 2: who are going to be earning one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: and how much will they be able to maximum be
Speaker 2: able to borrow? And how does that match up with
Speaker 2: the numbers that I've just shown you.
Speaker 7: Banks will no longer need to consider university debt repayments
Speaker 7: if they believe the potential buyer can pay it off.
Speaker 2: Four fifths Bugger all Now, yes, anything that moves the
Speaker 2: ball one inch further down the field is a win.
Speaker 2: But let's not pretend that this is the solution to
Speaker 2: the problem. It is a government trying to say it
Speaker 2: has a solution to the problem.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And as for the rest of the almost half of
Speaker 2: the country that is trying to pay a house off
Speaker 2: that either they live in or it is an investment
Speaker 2: property with a mortgage, we learn today about home loan
Speaker 2: sizes that have now hidden new records in Australia. The
Speaker 2: average homeland in Australia is now six hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: six thousand dollars in New South Whilst it's eight hundred
Speaker 2: and eleven thousand dollars, and Victoria six hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars and in Queensland six hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Which brings me back to what way too.
Speaker 2: Many people in an OsO compliant press gallery think is
Speaker 2: going to be the get out of jail free card
Speaker 2: for Jim Charmers and Anthony Albanesi, which would be fingers
Speaker 2: crossed a hopeful drop in interest rates, hopefully one next
Speaker 2: week and potentially won during the federal election campaign, But
Speaker 2: with the average home loan in the country being six
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six thousand dollars or new so whilst
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eleven thousand dollars, the actual truth of
Speaker 2: how much more you have had to find to pay
Speaker 2: off your mortgage since these people became the government is
Speaker 2: as follows. An extra fifteen one thousand dollars if you
Speaker 2: borrowed four hundred thousand dollars, twenty two thousand dollars if
Speaker 2: you borrowed six hundred thousand dollars, twenty nine thousand dollars
Speaker 2: if you borrowed for the average joint and the average
Speaker 2: mortgage in New South Wales even higher. If you're going
Speaker 2: a million dollar loan under this government, on top of
Speaker 2: what you were already paying, you've had to find thirty
Speaker 2: seven and a half thousand dollars more.
Speaker 1: To pay off your loan.
Speaker 2: And if you've got a very big loan, because presumably
Speaker 2: you've got big money coming in, you've had even bigger
Speaker 2: money going out, somewhere between fourteen and forty four thousand
Speaker 2: dollars extra. And yes, if there is an interesstrate rise,
Speaker 2: there may well be a grand one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: dollars reduction in your monthly repayments if anyone thinks that
Speaker 2: the Australian people will just forgive and forget a government
Speaker 2: that has presided over those numbers times two years, because
Speaker 2: that's how long it's been back of course into the
Speaker 2: latter part of twenty twenty two, the early part of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, when rates hit their high point. So
Speaker 2: all of those numbers I just showed you double them,
Speaker 2: And that's how much extra since this mob came to power.
Speaker 2: Good luck, good luck telling everyone that we've turned the
Speaker 2: corner and everything's okay. They have already had to spend,
Speaker 2: for some people close to half or maybe even more
Speaker 2: of a year's wages to try to desperately keep a
Speaker 2: roof over their head because fingers crossed, eventually the joint
Speaker 2: will be worth more than what they paid for it.
Speaker 2: They pay property coplunk and what's left over that pays
Speaker 2: for their retirement.
Speaker 4: Place.
Speaker 2: Big deal in the Federal Parliament that I want to
Speaker 2: talk about here, which is, as you know, the House
Speaker 2: of Reps and the Senate dominated by the two parties,
Speaker 2: and they love to get together to always help out themselves.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's a completely independent tribunal that regardless of
Speaker 2: whether you are labor liberal, one Nation green or even
Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe or a Tiffany Teal, you have got not one,
Speaker 2: but three pay rises since the last election. As I
Speaker 2: showed you, federal government ministers earning four hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: sneering at the idea of a small business being able
Speaker 2: to use the same tax breaks the big business does
Speaker 2: to take a client to the pub for a schnitzel.
Speaker 2: These are the people who always fly at the front
Speaker 2: of the plane whenever they wish floating fares. That means
Speaker 2: they can cancel and just get another one a little
Speaker 2: bit later. The people with staff who film them. And
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I'm sick of the
Speaker 2: politicians who try to create themselves like some of social
Speaker 2: media influences. Well, under this government they've got an extra staffer,
Speaker 2: an extra staffer to help burnish they're online reputations.
Speaker 1: Well, a deal has been.
Speaker 2: Done about how elections will be paid for the detail
Speaker 2: I have been speaking about for some time, and I
Speaker 2: can't stand when they.
Speaker 4: Do this stuff.
Speaker 2: But they do it because it's self serving. You will
Speaker 2: be able to give not twenty, but fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: You will be able to give under five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: before anyone knows that you have been giving a particular
Speaker 2: candidate money.
Speaker 1: All of that unbelievable.
Speaker 2: There will be a spending limit per electorate of eight
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Ninety million dollars is the most that
Speaker 2: can be spent by a political entity during an election campaign.
Speaker 2: But don't forget there are the independent organizations who also
Speaker 2: are able to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on
Speaker 2: top of the political parties that they work with. So literally,
Speaker 2: the dozens and dozens of unions will also be able
Speaker 2: to spend hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, whereas
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party, the Greens, One Nation, or your community
Speaker 2: independent will be outspent what four, five, six, ten to one.
Speaker 2: But nothing to see here. But the true outrage is
Speaker 2: the money that they will get from us, the taxpayer,
Speaker 2: as a result of the electoral process. Now, in this
Speaker 2: country we have compulsory voting. You are fined if you
Speaker 2: do not get your name marked off the role. And yes,
Speaker 2: there is a very very very small number of people
Speaker 2: who will get their name marked off but not vote.
Speaker 2: But let's be honest, you turn up your vote. Previously,
Speaker 2: political candidates have been paid three dollars thirty five per
Speaker 2: vote that they receive. That is now about to increase
Speaker 2: to five dollars. Paul, Why blow your bonnet about what
Speaker 2: a dollar in a bit? Because when you think about
Speaker 2: how many people are enrolled to vote in Australia, which
Speaker 2: is seventeen million, nine hundred and thirty nine thousand, eight
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen people. That's when you think about how
Speaker 2: many people are on the electoral role. Guess what happens
Speaker 2: if every one of those people vote in a lower
Speaker 2: House election. It means the Australian taxpayer will be paying
Speaker 2: political parties, independence and well minor parties thirty nine point
Speaker 2: six million dollars, meaning we pay for their election campaigns
Speaker 2: and then they find us if we choose to vote
Speaker 2: or not. But don't forget we don't just have one
Speaker 2: house of Parliament and this is where the five dollars
Speaker 2: a vote really kicks in. Seventeen point nine million people
Speaker 2: on the electoral role, House and Senate votes together seventy
Speaker 2: nine point three million dollars. So the rules about truth
Speaker 2: and advertising they apply to the private sector, not to
Speaker 2: these people. We pay for their travel, their wage, their staff,
Speaker 2: their social media campaigns. They get three three pay rises
Speaker 2: under this mob. They get free tickets, they get free upgrades,
Speaker 2: all the rest of it. And then we the taxpayer,
Speaker 2: through the AEC, hands that much money back to the
Speaker 2: political parties, meaning of course that they will seek fewer donations,
Speaker 2: meaning that just like in Victoria where this system was
Speaker 2: put in place, Queensland and Western Australia, it'll mean virtually
Speaker 2: no relationship with business. Meaning just as we have seen
Speaker 2: in the state of Victoria, you'll have more and more parties,
Speaker 2: more and more governments that won't care about business. And remember,
Speaker 2: ninety seven percent of all business in Australia is small,
Speaker 2: with fewer than nineteen employees. Of that ninety seven percent,
Speaker 2: almost seventy percent are sole traders who represent them in
Speaker 2: forthcoming elections. What I hate about our lurch to the
Speaker 2: left and those that have cheered it on, is the
Speaker 2: way that government is able to try to create a
Speaker 2: permanent majority for itself is that they want a triangle
Speaker 2: of dependence where either you need the government for the
Speaker 2: welfare handout, and any suggestion that that could be taken
Speaker 2: away is a reason to keep voting for the same
Speaker 2: party of government. Or they hire a football stadium more
Speaker 2: of public servants, which is a reason to keep voting
Speaker 2: for the same government. Or even if you're in private business,
Speaker 2: your biggest client is the government and you don't want
Speaker 2: to piss them off. Meaning that those of us who
Speaker 2: live outside of that triangle were allowed, We're strong, but
Speaker 2: it won't be the majority of Australia. This is a
Speaker 2: bad deal one of course, that they will gladly sign
Speaker 2: off on, slap each other on the back, and then make.
Speaker 1: Their way towards the exit doors for an.
Speaker 2: Election that we will pay for and you get fined
Speaker 2: if you do not wish to participate.
Speaker 1: Unbelievad Can I talk to Donald Trumpy for a moment
Speaker 1: or two?
Speaker 2: Is time now, As you know, I've not got too
Speaker 2: deep into Trump tariffs and the panic in and around
Speaker 2: all of it, because when you talk to Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: as our Prime minister does, and you know, I'm no
Speaker 2: fan of albow, but he was on the phone for
Speaker 2: forty minutes. If we were going to get screwed, it
Speaker 2: would not would not have taken a phone call, let
Speaker 2: alone had one for forty minutes, so I think we're
Speaker 2: going to get there. However, one of the key people
Speaker 2: in Trump's hereies his Trade Envoy and he is absolutely
Speaker 2: ripping Australia, suggesting that we have been screwing them over
Speaker 2: when it comes to aluminium. And all of this goes
Speaker 2: back to a meeting when Scott Morrison was the Prime Minister,
Speaker 2: which means bring on the Turnbull times to say all
Speaker 2: of this is Scott Morrison's fault. Well, firstly, if there's
Speaker 2: no country's getting an exemption it it doesn't matter what any
Speaker 2: country was doing. And secondly, haven't we had a different
Speaker 2: government for now three years who would have been able
Speaker 2: to honor such an arrangement. But of course there's nothing
Speaker 2: to see here. It's all still the former government's fault.
Speaker 2: And when I was mentioning before JFK, there is a
Speaker 2: new oversight body which is about to be launched in
Speaker 2: the US House of Representatives, which is going to go after.
Speaker 4: The big stuff.
Speaker 2: It's going to go after JFK. What really happened Martin
Speaker 2: Luther King, what really happened all of this stuff? It's
Speaker 2: going to be a fascinating thing. In the next little while.
Speaker 2: They claim they've found more than forty thousand new files
Speaker 2: in and around the JFK assassination. And the person who
Speaker 2: is going to be leading it up well believes in
Speaker 2: the two shooter theory, which, of course, in my view,
Speaker 2: anyone with a brain would why because the magic bullet.
Speaker 4: Is bears.
Speaker 1: The initial hearing that was actually held here in Congress
Speaker 1: was actually faulty in the single bullet theory.
Speaker 3: I believe that there were two shooters.
Speaker 1: I love it, seriously.
Speaker 2: Remember the Warren Commission, the report of the bullet ding
Speaker 2: Ding ding ding doesn't work like that, all right. It's
Speaker 2: the only conspiracy theory of openly wonder about. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break back with more looking forward to this. I
Speaker 2: want to wrap up nice and early with my stuff
Speaker 2: because ding dong. They are both in the man cave.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Brom and Bishop Stephen Conroy, Meghan Kelly,
Speaker 2: don't move. Don't move because I can see you don't move.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for watching wherever you happen to be.
Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy's already starting before even.
Speaker 4: He produced him.
Speaker 1: He's that excited to be this last to Rodman Vishop
Speaker 1: here in the man cave. Hello, Hello, and welcome back
Speaker 1: for this year.
Speaker 2: I think we'll have plenty to agree on. One thing
Speaker 2: we are going to unify on and I don't want
Speaker 2: to spend too much time, and it only because it
Speaker 2: has been well established how Australia feels about these two
Speaker 2: people when it comes to the video, these nurses, and
Speaker 2: I had my say on top of what everyone else
Speaker 2: has said all night. But Bromwin, how can I not
Speaker 2: get to get your end Stephen's opinion on how oddly
Speaker 2: we have slid as a nation when people behave like this.
Speaker 8: Well, when I saw that video, the anger that welled
Speaker 8: within me. I can hardly express to see that happen
Speaker 8: in my country to people we've invited into this country.
Speaker 8: To speak of that and then try and pass it
Speaker 8: off as a joke, I just feel ballistic. Those people
Speaker 8: have no right to remain registered nurses. They must never
Speaker 8: be allowed to work again. But there has to be
Speaker 8: a thorough investigation. Are there more of them? Are they
Speaker 8: part of the chatquib? How far has it gone already?
Speaker 8: I've heard the new South Wales minister say he will
Speaker 8: do an investigation to see if any people who were
Speaker 8: Jewish actually died and go through the go through it properly.
Speaker 8: What do we get from alban easy wooly, weasily words
Speaker 8: in question time? I mean, this country has slid because
Speaker 8: no firm action was taken from the time of that
Speaker 8: demonstration on the steps of the Opera House, and it
Speaker 8: let the genie out of the bottle.
Speaker 1: But to see that hatred spilling out of.
Speaker 8: Those people's mouths who have been given so much by
Speaker 8: this country and have no respect for the culture in
Speaker 8: which they live, has to ask a whole lot of
Speaker 8: new questions about how we invite people to this country,
Speaker 8: how we look after our culture, and how we say
Speaker 8: this is a country and culture that won't tolerate that
Speaker 8: hate well.
Speaker 1: And also do.
Speaker 8: Those two have an association with that preacher who said
Speaker 8: he was elated and delighted at the massacre of the
Speaker 8: twelve hundred yees?
Speaker 1: Of what I've read, are they attached?
Speaker 8: All that needs to be known and not covered up,
Speaker 8: not weasel words. It all has to be.
Speaker 2: Exposed because also it means something that's been clear today, Stephen,
Speaker 2: which is that the bloke apparently came here as an
Speaker 2: eleven year old. We don't know the full bio on
Speaker 2: the woman, whether she was born here or came with
Speaker 2: another family. But this is this not an insight into
Speaker 2: a fundamental failure of how open Australia has been, but
Speaker 2: how Australia has failed to be able to say that
Speaker 2: to a young person who comes here with all of
Speaker 2: its opportunities, that you don't that you end up behaving
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: Look. I mean it is sicking that these people feel
Speaker 4: so emboldened. I think that's the really disturbing part, and
Speaker 4: they think they can actually proudly boast behave that way
Speaker 4: on camera, and it cost a lot of the points.
Speaker 4: I agree, not obviously with everything brom Win said, but
Speaker 4: with most of what Bromwin said. I think Ryan Parks
Speaker 4: has played a blinder today. It's credit for taking full
Speaker 4: on head on and saying not on my watch. So
Speaker 4: congratulations to Ryan. So I am sickened, I'm disgusted, and
Speaker 4: it does raise questions of how we've allowed it to
Speaker 4: get to this point that people have got no gratitude
Speaker 4: being welcome to our country. The openness which we embrace
Speaker 4: and allow support freedom of religion, all religions where.
Speaker 1: What you want, believe in what you do exactly.
Speaker 2: However, you know that.
Speaker 4: There's a point where you got you do not cross
Speaker 4: this line.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And these two and others are wager they are way
Speaker 4: over this line, and they've got to be told on
Speaker 4: ambiguous terms. It's not accepted.
Speaker 8: They've got to be prosecuted. In my view, Well, we've
Speaker 8: got enough legislation there. They need to be prosecuted.
Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk about a hangover from the Victorian
Speaker 2: by elections, and an incredible detail we were just talking
Speaker 2: about before, which is they're going to wait. They have
Speaker 2: done no more counting, right, so we don't know what's
Speaker 2: happening in Werriby. Insteads multiple days and on Friday, I think,
Speaker 2: which is when the last of something may trickle through
Speaker 2: the letterbox. That's when they're going to do one last count.
Speaker 2: We might get some indication, if not result, on Friday.
Speaker 2: But let's let's talk brass tax here. Stephen, you're a
Speaker 2: Victorian guy, you know Victorian politics, numbers and all the
Speaker 2: rest of it.
Speaker 1: How much trouble is labor actually in Victoria.
Speaker 4: I'll start with a state labor government. The premier come out,
Speaker 4: we've heard your message. She then said, I'm doubling down.
Speaker 4: She's shown some courage in talking about how we've got
Speaker 4: to deal with some crime, the bail issues that took
Speaker 4: a lot of courage. Now needs to show the same
Speaker 4: amount of courage and accept the message she's trying to
Speaker 4: sell to the western northern Melbourne suburbs is not resonating.
Speaker 4: They don't want it. This suburban rail loop is not
Speaker 4: something that is a saleable political issue for communities where
Speaker 4: even the polling booth has to be delayed the count
Speaker 4: because the roof is leaking. Yeah, that just says, oh
Speaker 4: my god, what is going on here? You can't even
Speaker 4: do the count on the day because of the infrastructure Rundown.
Speaker 4: I speak to a lot of the westerns of federal
Speaker 4: and state MPs and they are very upset about a
Speaker 4: focus on the SrAl and the Premier can pretend that
Speaker 4: that's not what's really going on, but the message is
Speaker 4: very cliche. Since you heard the message, well the messages
Speaker 4: you've got to change priorities correct and so at a
Speaker 4: state level, I'm not writing off the Victorian governments, but
Speaker 4: you've got to be more embracing and not just narrowly
Speaker 4: focused on those suburbs federally. Federally, it puts in play
Speaker 4: a range of seats that should never be in play
Speaker 4: for Labor Party. The one saving grace out of a
Speaker 4: very bad weekend was that, you know, we dropped sixteen
Speaker 4: points on primary. They lived barely pick up four percent,
Speaker 4: So that same sort of circumstances would still see us
Speaker 4: probably hold most of those seats that could be vulnerable,
Speaker 4: from the mckiwens in the north right round to the
Speaker 4: Hawk and a Lawler, but very worrying signs that brand
Speaker 4: Labor is being badly affected in Victoria.
Speaker 2: So then, Bromman, how does the Liberal Party get itself
Speaker 2: to a position that between now when the federal election,
Speaker 2: if people have moved away from the Labor Party and
Speaker 2: the numbers in which we all seem that they don't
Speaker 2: go on the long road around that either one or
Speaker 2: two is for the alternative government. Because again just at
Speaker 2: all of our knowledge of how this works is that
Speaker 2: if there's a Melbourne cup field of anyone but a
Speaker 2: Liberal that's running, they all end up preferencing each other,
Speaker 2: meaning the Liberals aren't going to go anywhere. Today, Clyde
Speaker 2: Palmer failed to be able to reregister the United Australia Party,
Speaker 2: which means one of two high profile national parties to
Speaker 2: the right which would have delivered preferences as they did
Speaker 2: in nineteen as they didn't in twenty two. Meaning there's
Speaker 2: a lot of work there when it comes to one
Speaker 2: nation because outside of that, no one's going to be
Speaker 2: preferencing the Libs.
Speaker 8: Well, that's not necessarily so you can get some independents
Speaker 8: who are right wing candidates. Well, but I just have
Speaker 8: a memory of the nineteen ninety election Pork was riding high,
Speaker 8: Peacock was the leader, and Andrew Peacock won nine seats
Speaker 8: in Victoria, not one in New South Wales, not one,
Speaker 8: but nine in Victoria. So there are plenty of examples
Speaker 8: where things occur, where they change, And I think there
Speaker 8: is a momentum that has swung behind Peter Dutton. They
Speaker 8: are looking for something else. Now he's got time to
Speaker 8: roll out whatever the pitch will be with the actual election.
Speaker 8: He's not going to do it prematurely, but you can
Speaker 8: bet the work's been going on.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing that I wanted to talk to
Speaker 2: both of you about, which is traditionally the way an
Speaker 2: election will work is you thirty three day campaign month
Speaker 2: and a bit right.
Speaker 1: The whole thing.
Speaker 2: Generally crests weekend before at your party conference. That also
Speaker 2: means that's when you start paying for your travel, not
Speaker 2: the taxpayer. And then it all runs towards election day.
Speaker 2: How many state elections, how many federal elections half vote
Speaker 2: early meaning the actual election you have to cress halfway
Speaker 2: through the campaign, meaning if you're waiting till the day
Speaker 2: that the starts, gun goes off to fire off, your
Speaker 2: social media strategy, your radio ads, all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Guess what, it's not going to connect the way that
Speaker 2: it has in the past. So I've got to say
Speaker 2: I have a concern about both the government and the
Speaker 2: alternative government about what their message is going to be
Speaker 2: because they're playing one out in the news, but there's
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people who don't watch the news,
Speaker 2: aren't connected to the news. Would your advice be to
Speaker 2: both of your sides start doing it now?
Speaker 1: Start doing it now.
Speaker 2: Because if it's between now and May, you want to
Speaker 2: carpet bomb ads that people will repeat back to you,
Speaker 2: not just do it for two weeks when we're distracted
Speaker 2: by footy or anything else.
Speaker 8: Well, I've got to say there's I think some good
Speaker 8: precedents in how the voice was handled. Now there was
Speaker 8: a There was a build up that then allowed a
Speaker 8: statement to be made by Dutton, and then the roll
Speaker 8: out happened. I suggest there'll be a similar sort of strategy,
Speaker 8: but that.
Speaker 1: Was a process of a month. We're now into week's
Speaker 1: Stephen in terms would.
Speaker 4: Conceivably call it in three weeks time. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: so he goes for in April twelve. He's calling it
Speaker 4: on March ten.
Speaker 2: So KOs Samaras, who is with the Red Bridge. We
Speaker 2: talked to him every Sunday night. He says that the
Speaker 2: whole these are all the things that Dutton's voted against.
Speaker 2: The only AD that's out of the moment is really
Speaker 2: about locking in soft labor voters. It's not about flipping
Speaker 2: anyone else. As a political tactician does that fact that
Speaker 2: everyone votes two weeks before election.
Speaker 4: I think the port you're making is absolutely spot on.
Speaker 4: You can't have that crescendo. I mean, I remember you
Speaker 4: used to know I've sat inside the central organization. Now
Speaker 4: your first week, how much spend your second week, how
Speaker 4: much spending ads? You cannot do that crescendo today is worked.
Speaker 4: You need to be, as you said, peaking almost we
Speaker 4: have second week.
Speaker 8: We've moved away from an election day to an election period. Yes,
Speaker 8: and that is that is simply the reality of it.
Speaker 8: I mean, it used to be that the big launch
Speaker 8: was only held days before election day because that was
Speaker 8: the way it could be funded, the cost of the
Speaker 8: travel and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: But I just think, but also when they're about to
Speaker 2: get what after this little dirty deal, what eighty million
Speaker 2: dollars in money back.
Speaker 4: For the dirty liberals?
Speaker 2: Liberals Liberal they made you do it, You made me
Speaker 2: do it, all right, So look just about interest rates.
Speaker 2: I've made the point for the past couple of nights.
Speaker 2: Look as somebody paying off a mortgage half the damn
Speaker 2: things right, please, please, please, But the clearly the pump
Speaker 2: priming of the canbra press is this is the moment,
Speaker 2: this is the circuit breaker. The second it goes down
Speaker 2: by a quarter of represent then where everyone floods towards
Speaker 2: the government. I repeat all those stats that I said before.
Speaker 2: If you've had to fine between fourteen and thirty eight
Speaker 2: thousand dollars extra to pay off your mortgage since the
Speaker 2: start of the government, no one's cuddling anyone at one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks off a month.
Speaker 8: No, No, they're not. But nonetheless they'll be hoping because
Speaker 8: I think this will be a momentum, little start that
Speaker 8: they think there's more to come, and they've their policies
Speaker 8: and their situation has been so bad that anything that
Speaker 8: comes their way that we think is, oh, we can
Speaker 8: grab onto that and go. But as the charmers look,
Speaker 8: I'm sorry season to say it, but the snake charmer,
Speaker 8: it's all fantasy. It's all illusion to the lips flap,
Speaker 8: but nothing happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, just just beggars belief.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jim's a friend of mine. Let me be
Speaker 4: very clear about this. That would be nice perspect He's
Speaker 4: got the prospect of possibly a third surplus. Maybe, so
Speaker 4: that's a maybe, that's a positive. Maybe interest rate cut
Speaker 4: will be a small down payment, but I stress the
Speaker 4: word small down payment. Yeah. And so what that does allow, though,
Speaker 4: is I think problems that maybe a bit of momentum
Speaker 4: to be behind the economic story. And I think at
Speaker 4: the moment where done is weakest is on an economic story.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a blank space.
Speaker 8: No, No, here's question, are you better off?
Speaker 4: Peter.
Speaker 1: It's a great line.
Speaker 2: To the point where is that in the advertising now,
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't cost any money. And I've been I've
Speaker 2: been watching this. I'm going to do a thing next week, right,
Speaker 2: which is having a look at what all the different
Speaker 2: local MPs are doing and how they get their message out. Right,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really bad street theater from labor MPs,
Speaker 2: but we've saved it. Also, don't bother deleting it.
Speaker 4: We've already got it on the server.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of liberal sort of sitting in a
Speaker 2: desk responding to things. But how hard is it to
Speaker 2: get a kid canvas and to write on a screen
Speaker 2: insert electorate you'r has gone up by, has gone up by,
Speaker 2: has gone up by?
Speaker 1: Why aren't they doing that?
Speaker 8: That one I can answer because I think it's a
Speaker 8: damn yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I mean to me, if you were running
Speaker 2: in the opposition, it's this thing. You've got your core flutes.
Speaker 2: Here's the Stop showing me your face. Just say, you
Speaker 2: know in the seed of insert, you've had to pay
Speaker 2: this this and then see what happens, all right. You
Speaker 2: know Steven's agreeing, but desperately not trying to move at all,
Speaker 2: because if he moves a muscle, then then he knows
Speaker 2: the Life membership is in danger. I've got forty five seconds,
Speaker 2: but I simply maybe have to go yes no here.
Speaker 2: I think we get an exemption from Trump eventually. The
Speaker 2: things don't kick until March, and he had a forty
Speaker 2: minute call. If he isn't into us, he doesn't do
Speaker 2: the forty minute call, I think we're getting one.
Speaker 4: What do you reckon?
Speaker 8: I hope we are because it's in the national interest,
Speaker 8: but I'm not convinced.
Speaker 4: Say, look, I think it will be drawn out. He's
Speaker 4: clearly shown deal it with Trudeau, and he's helped destroy Trudeau.
Speaker 4: He's been chasing Starmer. He's gone hard there. He doesn't
Speaker 4: mind interfering in other countries political elections. I think he
Speaker 4: will draw it out. I think ultimately we should get one,
Speaker 4: but I think you'll draw it out, possibly past your election.
Speaker 2: I've gotta say Navarro did worry me ever so slightly today,
Speaker 2: where I thought, oh, hang on, if he's the last
Speaker 2: man in.
Speaker 8: The room, we wouldn't be making that statement without someone
Speaker 8: knowing who's going to.
Speaker 1: Make it correct?
Speaker 2: All right, the screaming of me because Megan Kelly is next.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, all the best hopefully get better
Speaker 2: and we look forward to seeing you again in the
Speaker 2: man cave asap.
Speaker 1: Thank you, mate, morn is sick you all married.
Speaker 2: Last our favorite time of the week, because it's time
Speaker 2: to talk to our favorite person in the world. Meghan
Speaker 2: Kelly for the Megan Kelly Show YouTube podcast, Serious exam but.
Speaker 1: Most importantly right now on Sky News. Hello, Rockstar.
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Paul Ah? Not as good as you? What about you?
Speaker 2: You don't just go to the super Bowl Meghan Kelly style.
Speaker 2: You don't go to the super Bowl. You take your
Speaker 2: beautiful boy with you. You're sit in the box. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and the President's over there. Tell what was the super
Speaker 2: Bowl like?
Speaker 6: It was very cool.
Speaker 3: I have to say. I even I was excited, and
Speaker 3: I'm not even a sports person, but we were invited
Speaker 3: to go by YouTube. We said yes, and it just
Speaker 3: so happened that my husband's team, the Philadelphia Eagles, made
Speaker 3: it into the Big Game and then ultimately won, So
Speaker 3: he was as happy as could be. We sit down
Speaker 3: in this fancy, you know suite that YouTube had, and
Speaker 3: I look over to my right and there is Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift getting booed by the entire stadium, and I look
Speaker 3: over my left and there's there's President Trump. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, right in between these two, and he's
Speaker 3: getting cheers and she's getting jeers.
Speaker 1: It was fine.
Speaker 3: At that point. I was like, I'm just going to
Speaker 3: slink back in my little seat right here and keep
Speaker 3: watching because this is great theater.
Speaker 1: Did you get a chat?
Speaker 2: I know he had the Sophie, but was it Was
Speaker 2: it much of a chat with the president?
Speaker 3: Yes, we did get to chat a bit, and he
Speaker 3: was in a great mood. He was super happy. Even then.
Speaker 3: He was very focused on the fact that Taylor got booed,
Speaker 3: was very happy that she got.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, look, I get that most powerful person
Speaker 2: in the world. All the rest I love. I love
Speaker 2: that he doesn't forgive.
Speaker 1: And I love that he could be a bit pity
Speaker 1: every now and then.
Speaker 2: And you know what, she thought, she was putting the
Speaker 2: final stake into the heart.
Speaker 1: Of the vampire.
Speaker 2: He did after the debate, and he's just turned around
Speaker 2: and go, sorry, sorry, who's the winner out? Look at
Speaker 2: the scoreboard, literally, look at the scoreboard.
Speaker 3: Who could blame him?
Speaker 1: Exactly right?
Speaker 3: And there she was, and she looked fuddled at the
Speaker 3: fact that people were booing her as if like, do
Speaker 3: they not know it's me? It is high Taylor Swift,
Speaker 3: Why on earth would you would you boo me? It's like,
Speaker 3: because you got political, you took a risk. It didn't
Speaker 3: pan out.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 3: As I said said on my show, this is the
Speaker 3: FO part of the FAFO calculation. You decided to get political,
Speaker 3: you decided to endorse a candidate. You decided to say
Speaker 3: it was because of Tim Wallace's LGBTQ stance, which is insane.
Speaker 3: It shows you're all a radical leftist, not just like
Speaker 3: a mild moderate democrat, and so we're over you. On
Speaker 3: top of which, she's totally overexposed. We're sick of her.
Speaker 3: Even my kids are like, why do they keep showing
Speaker 3: her at these games? My little guy, he's only eleven,
Speaker 3: He's like, Mom, they showed Taylor Swift the whole game.
Speaker 3: They never showed Trump except for the first time when
Speaker 3: they sang the national anthem. Even he's getting it. So
Speaker 3: everyone's just sick of her. It's overexposure. We're tired of her.
Speaker 3: A little booh booh me act. I'll say this too.
Speaker 3: I think the guys having the time of his life.
Speaker 3: He had spent the morning golfing with Tiger Woods, which
Speaker 3: is like every golfer's dream. Then he flies out there
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl where he gets the great sweet seats.
Speaker 3: He's sitting next to his daughter, Ivanka, who they all
Speaker 3: call the princess in the family because everyone loves her,
Speaker 3: but Trump loves her. She's clearly his favorite, and they
Speaker 3: they're all very good natured about that relationship. They think
Speaker 3: it's sweet.
Speaker 2: Let's unpack again a little bit more about what we
Speaker 2: learn about the sixty minutes stuff, where clearly they were
Speaker 2: at the very least benefit of the doubt shining the
Speaker 2: shoe of Kamala Harris in that interview. Now, the full
Speaker 2: interview was obviously longer than what they put to air,
Speaker 2: but that's what they do. They shoot, you know, for
Speaker 2: an hour to eventually cut down to whatever, ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: But what's come out after the raw tape has been
Speaker 2: released is all of the little benefits of the doubt,
Speaker 2: the little moments that would otherwise have exposed the blithering
Speaker 2: idiot that America rejected, but they chose not to show
Speaker 2: those moments because of course they were on her side.
Speaker 2: Yet another mark against a type of media that wants
Speaker 2: to just be dishonest.
Speaker 1: Release the full tape.
Speaker 2: Okay, edit it down for the Sunday Night Show, but
Speaker 2: release the full tape.
Speaker 3: I can't believe once it became a controversy they didn't
Speaker 3: just do that. They acted like it was a state secret,
Speaker 3: you know, like we will never you know never. It's like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, this isn't a classified document. This wasn't
Speaker 3: something to you by a source with the understanding that
Speaker 3: you would only reveal part of it, all of which
Speaker 3: I could understand. This is an interview with a candidate
Speaker 3: for president, She's the Democratic nominee for president. Why you
Speaker 3: should be doing it anyway? Never mind once a controversy
Speaker 3: has erupted about whether you've been fair. And I can
Speaker 3: only conclude, having seen the transcript now because the one
Speaker 3: inane answer that caused all the trouble for them, it
Speaker 3: wasn't good, but it wasn't a cardinal sin what they
Speaker 3: did there. But if you look at the overall transcript,
Speaker 3: what you glean is that they ran cover for her.
Speaker 3: Her most vapid, empty headed maronic answers all fell out
Speaker 3: of the interview and were left on the editing room floor.
Speaker 3: And so when you read it. It does show a
Speaker 3: pattern of protection. What we found out about that one
Speaker 3: infamous answer in response to which Netanyahu does not appear
Speaker 3: to be listening to you, was they teased one piece
Speaker 3: of the answer on Sunday and then they ran a
Speaker 3: different piece of the answer on Monday, and people wanted
Speaker 3: to know what else was in the answer. Well, the
Speaker 3: answer to that is nothing. The whole answer was those
Speaker 3: two pieces merged together. Now, the one they used in
Speaker 3: the teas on Sunday made her sound especially dumb and incomprehensible,
Speaker 3: which is a feat, and somebody decided they would do
Speaker 3: her solid and run be slightly more comprehensible, but still
Speaker 3: a kind of answer on sixty minutes, which is what
Speaker 3: they did. And when you string them together, she sounds
Speaker 3: even dumber.
Speaker 4: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening.
Speaker 6: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
Speaker 6: in a number of movements in that region by Israel
Speaker 6: that were very much prompted by or a result of
Speaker 6: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen
Speaker 6: in the region.
Speaker 3: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah, who is not
Speaker 3: We're not going.
Speaker 6: To stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States
Speaker 6: to be clear about where we stand on the need
Speaker 6: for this war to end.
Speaker 3: Typical Kamala Harris. It was three hundred words to say
Speaker 3: ten words. So they did definitely do a solid for her.
Speaker 3: But then you read the rest of the transcript and
Speaker 3: what wound up on the editing room floor ambitions, aspirations,
Speaker 3: hopes and dreams, and I just really believe, I believe right,
Speaker 3: And she goes into her little bits that she did
Speaker 3: everywhere on the campaign trail that were full of nothing,
Speaker 3: empty calories. So why did they do that? The people
Speaker 3: at sixty minutes are not dumb. There are many journalists
Speaker 3: who are many, but the people who work at sixty
Speaker 3: are not stupid. They're biased, but they're not dumb. And
Speaker 3: so they did that. I don't believe it was because
Speaker 3: they thought it would be bad TV. I think they
Speaker 3: did it because they understood it would subject her to
Speaker 3: the same feeling among the audience that they undoubtedly had
Speaker 3: when they saw it, which is good. God, here she
Speaker 3: goes again, she's an idiot, like she has nothing substantive
Speaker 3: to say. This is sixty minutes, This isn't the view,
Speaker 3: this isn't Oprah say something meaningful?
Speaker 1: And you see, they had.
Speaker 3: Their little scissors that we used to use when we
Speaker 3: were in first grade to cut out the little gingerbread man,
Speaker 3: and they tried to cut out a real presidential candidate
Speaker 3: who could speak on issues and not sound completely off
Speaker 3: point or like she was trying to rally her sorority
Speaker 3: for a night of wine. They failed, but they did
Speaker 3: the best they could. And I think that's why they
Speaker 3: wouldn't release the transcript, because you know, front to back,
Speaker 3: that's what you walk away with. They protected her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the gingerbread man would have been
Speaker 2: smarter than Kamala Harris could have dreamt to be during
Speaker 2: her presidential run. All right, Megan, love me to say
Speaker 2: you will see you again next waite go the best.
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