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Speaker 2: But anyway, that is for another day, and this episode

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Speaker 1: Joining me, Rinita VI is our Moto GP guru, mister

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Speaker 1: Matt Clayton and Matt before we introduce our guests, I

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, as the old sigying goes, a stop

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Speaker 1: Too commentating team.

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Speaker 2: It's Neil Morrison. Neil, welcome it to Fox Sports Pit Talk.

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Speaker 1: So guys, twenty two rounds this year, Neil, you've been

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Speaker 4: of the race in the sprint, and he said, with

435
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 4: what I was seeing Diamahad do on corner exit, the

436
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 4: amount that it was spinning, the lack of traction that

437
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 4: he had, the fact that he was a second or

438
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 4: two ahead of me was quite miraculous. And when you have,

439
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 4: you know, three time world champions like Pekkabaya described and

440
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 4: you're riding as miraculous, I think you're inclined to take

441
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 4: nott and agree. So yeah, I think Fabio, despite being

442
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 4: only what nine in the championship, has has definitely been

443
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 4: one of the top performers this year.

444
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 1: I think just even watching his body language, and there's

445
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: something that Matt has brought to my attention this year

446
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: is like we see it with Peco, but also if

447
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: you look at the body language of Fabio, it's been

448
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: really interesting because you see the waves that he goes

449
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: through when he's on the bike and also when he's

450
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: off the bike, right, So yeah, you can see the

451
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: frustration and we've hurdled the interviews and everything like that,

452
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: but seeing what he's doing on that bike and then

453
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about the writing. We hear from Jack Miller

454
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: and he said that the bike's just a handful of

455
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 1: important mal blah blah blah. And then to see that

456
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: Fabuu did that result, it is phenomenal. It is phenomenal

457
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: what those boys are doing on the Yamaha and what

458
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: Fabio is doing and qualifying on that Yamaha for sure.

459
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: But Matt, I think you're up.

460
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: What's your next one?

461
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure you've got a goodie for us.

462
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: I think when I think back to twenty twenty five,

463
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to think of a guy who did it,

464
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: didn't finish in the top ten of the World Championship,

465
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 3: didn't really do anything really anywhere else maybe except for

466
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: one race after this. How can you not think of

467
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: Joann Zarco winning at Lamont because of just how mad

468
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 3: that race was, the crowd, the whole thing about was

469
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: the first time his mum had been to a race

470
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: since he been in the World Championship, which he turns

471
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: up and he wins his home Grand Prix, first French

472
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: Grand Prix winner for seventy one years. It was just

473
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: absolutely amazing TV and all of the emotion and you know,

474
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: thirty five years old, and he's still going to go

475
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: and stick the backflip on off the fence. Afterwards, you know,

476
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: whether he whether he miss is the backflip or not,

477
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: he's then we're going to have a go. But Neil,

478
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: that was just like you know, Zarco has these periods

479
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: of where he just looks completely amazing every now and then.

480
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: But to do it there in those conditions in a

481
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: crazy race, now, I'm sure you're at that one. I'm

482
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: not sure I've heard a louder crowd than that. Like

483
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: that was absolutely crazy, wasn't it.

484
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, things tend to get sort of exaggerated a

485
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: little bit of lemon because you have this massive sort

486
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: of pit complex on one side and then this massive

487
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 4: metal grandstand on the other. It sort of always gets

488
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: trapped in between that on the front street. And yeah,

489
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 4: it was. It was really quite something. I'll always remember

490
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 4: that when Fabua crossed the line first of all, and

491
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 4: then when they're all sang Lamarcis afterwards. Oh it was

492
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: ye hair on the back of your neck standing up

493
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: sort of sort of memories and that was that was

494
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: a grid. I mean, it was super dramatic, wasn't it.

495
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 4: For the first ear laps Because you had some writers

496
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: changing tires. I think zark stayed on and Way didn't.

497
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: He hed dried up, but then it started raining again

498
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: and he had this kind of crazy situation that some

499
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 4: riders that changed tires just before the race started then

500
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: had to do a double long that penalty, and you

501
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 4: really didn't know where the order was. And as the

502
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: rain intensified, I think there were like a couple of

503
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: guys out there that were on full wet, Zarco being

504
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 4: one of them. I think Jack Miller was another, maybe Allavera.

505
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: I think Jack Miller is still probably kicking himself about

506
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 4: how that race penned out because he was absolutely sure

507
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 4: that that was a that was maybe not a Neil

508
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 4: don win, but certainly a podium finished because he had

509
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 4: got the call absolutely right, but was caught out by

510
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: the final turn. And then you know, the last two

511
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 4: thirds of the race weren't even really that exciting, But

512
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: there was this tension that zarko, maybe it's going to

513
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: be this heroic failure of this tale of what could

514
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 4: have been after he was what ten seconds ahead in

515
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 4: his home Grand Prix, maybe he would crash out, but

516
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 4: he was so composed and in that first what three

517
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 4: months of the season. I mean Socco I think was

518
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: riding as well as maybe not as well as Mark,

519
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: but you would have put him in the top four

520
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 4: or five writers in that first part of the season.

521
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: And yeah, for him to get it across the line

522
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 4: was just magical.

523
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: Well, and you mentioned before the fact that he had

524
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 3: such a big lead, Like normally you hear these guys

525
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: talk about when they're in the fight, it's actually better

526
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: for keeping the concentration. And you know, he would have

527
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: known what was at stake here. I've got this massive lead.

528
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: It's a crazy race. The crowd. I'm just it's getting

529
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: louder and louder by the lap they're all expecting here

530
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: and trying to keep your mind on the job with

531
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: all that going on, knowing what you're about to achieve.

532
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: He knows his history. He's a guy who knows the

533
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: history of the sport and how long it had been

534
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 3: in all of that, like to have all that weighing

535
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: on your mind, it was whether you had an investment

536
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: in him winning or not. You were sort of crossing

537
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: your figure seeking don't drop the ball here because this

538
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: is a great, great Motor GP story. And you were

539
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: so keen to see how that crowd, how patriotic they are,

540
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: and how packed that place is. You wanted to see

541
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: the full throated celebration. It was prop a good TV

542
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: and yeah, and also the most ark I thing ever

543
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: to not particularly do very much afterwards, but if you're

544
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: going to have a high point, you might as well

545
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: you might as well make out that one, because that

546
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: was pretty special.

547
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the images of his parents just

548
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: like spontaneously busting into tears afterwards was probably one of

549
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 4: the images of the season as well. I mean I

550
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: still almost well up a little bit whenever I see

551
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: those images because it was just like so sweet. And

552
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 4: as you said, his mom had never been to a

553
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: Grand Prix Risk before when he was competing, and I

554
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: think the last time his dad had gone to a

555
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 4: GP was way way back in the day, maybe even

556
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 4: before he was in Model GP. And yeah, it's just like, yeah,

557
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: so so nice and so sweet and yeah, for that day, sorry, Joanne,

558
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: tarcle was the you know, he was the most important

559
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: man in France. Yeah, and I.

560
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Don't think he's ever going to forget that.

561
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Like I know from my brother's experience, he's never forgotten

562
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: his motive gp wins. I can only imagine what it's

563
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: like doing it in front of your home, crowded and

564
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: Lamon is such an iconic circuits. But Neil, come on,

565
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: gonna try and beat that one?

566
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: Now, Well, that is a serious amount of pressure that

567
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: you've just put my shoulders, and I might go a

568
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: little left field here. I mean, if Matt was going

569
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: with twenty twenty four Majello as one of his moments

570
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five, Dad, that maybe this isn't so

571
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: left field. But I'm actually going to choose a press

572
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 4: conference which was on the Thursday of the Grand Prix

573
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: of Chechia. It was the race in which Joorge Martine

574
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: made his comeback for a Prillier after what I've been

575
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: in this kind of crazy three month period behind the scenes,

576
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 4: where we had never heard directly from Horaey himself, but

577
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: we had heard from a Prillier, We'd heard from Horae's manager.

578
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 4: There had obviously been a disagreement over his contract for

579
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. Jorge had been injured three times, very seriously,

580
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 4: the last of those injuries in Qatar. I mean he

581
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: felt that he was in danger of never being able

582
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: to ride again. And I thinking from that moment, he

583
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 4: just had the impression that his bike was completely cursed

584
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: and it was not capable of doing the job that

585
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: he wanted it to, so he tried to move out

586
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: of his contract for next year. I really thought otherwise.

587
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: And then basically we had this kind of tune and

588
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: throwing behind the scenes for what three months, and then

589
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: he essentially knew that there wasn't going to be a

590
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: clean break. He was going to have to eat some

591
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 4: humble pie except what he had and check Yo was

592
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: the first time that we as journalists had the chance

593
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: to speak to him, and it was in this press

594
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: conference with Yeah, I mean it was a packed up

595
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: press conference. There was probably about thirty journalists there, and

596
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: he wasn't getting an easy time. He was getting a

597
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: proper grilling, and I have to say I thought he

598
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: managed it very very well. Going off public opinion from

599
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 4: reading comments on YouTube or on social media, I think

600
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: the majority of people were thinking that he was acting

601
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: well out of line. He was being a bit of

602
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: a diva. He hadn't even given me a Prillier proper

603
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: chance yet. He was trying to get away to go

604
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: to Honda, which at that time still hadn't really been

605
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: show in its best form in twenty twenty five. But

606
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: I thought he made just such a convincing and compelling

607
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: case for why he did what he wanted to do.

608
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 4: I like the fact that he didn't try and like

609
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 4: sugarcoated or pretend that it was anything other than it was.

610
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: He was just direct and honest. He said, I didn't

611
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 4: apologize to the team because I didn't feel that I

612
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: need to apologize. And when he said the line that

613
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: he had been sitting in intensive care and Katar fearing

614
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: for his life, and at that moment you start to

615
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: think about things in maybe a slightly irrational way. I

616
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: don't really think there's anyone that was watching that could

617
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: disagree with that or could really be overly critical of

618
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: him of doing what he did with those circumstances in mine. So, yeah,

619
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: I thought that was a pretty impressive performance. Actly, it's

620
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: been one of the best oppressive or most impressive performances

621
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: we've smart in this year. We've seen them so frequently,

622
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: but yeah, that was just great to have a chance

623
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: to actually speak to them, to actually hear from the

624
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: horse's mouth what had been going on. And yeah, I

625
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: think maybe he didn't win a lot of fans, but

626
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: I think he gains a lot of respect in that moment.

627
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: I agree Neil, and I think yeah, And I think

628
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: the thing for me and Neil is like, you know,

629
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: these guys are in their natural habitat with the visor

630
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: down and you know, tucked under the bubble of one

631
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: of these things, doing an insane speed, sitting there on

632
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: a stool in front of a bunch of journalists with

633
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: nothing to hide you, no armor, no body work, nothing,

634
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: speaking in not your native tongue for twenty minutes trying

635
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: to explain what it is that you've done. I like

636
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: the fact that you said, Neil, there that there's a

637
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: sense of authenticity with Jorge good or bad, in that

638
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: there's no filter. If there's something in front of mine,

639
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: he's just going to say and move on. Because what

640
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: makes him a great motor GP rider is because of

641
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: his aggression and how impulsive he is. And those things

642
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: came out in that press conference, where it would have

643
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: been so easy to go in there and be really stayed,

644
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: manage and stick to this really careful script. He went

645
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: in there and he just took whatever was coming to him.

646
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: But you could see the nerves and like the amateur

647
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: body language doctor that I like to think that I am.

648
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: At this point, you know, he's unscrewing and rescrewing the

649
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: lid on the water bottle, and he's fidgety, and you

650
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: can watching his eyes and they weld up. I think

651
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: there was some tears a couple of times. It was

652
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: so raw. And whether you agree with what was coming

653
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: out of his mouth or not, like you were saying,

654
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: I think you gained more respect for the fact that

655
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: he was prepared to sit there and take that and

656
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: that was almost like a necessary step for him to

657
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: even be able to get back in the fray again

658
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: and race. Without having done that, nothing else could follow.

659
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: And of course the thing that followed is he hurt

660
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: himself again at Motegi. But that was I was a

661
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: bit like you as like, you know, he has big,

662
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: a bit of a diver. He's not giving these guys

663
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: a chance. And you know, did he back out of

664
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: the trying to get out of the contract because it

665
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: was going to cost too much money and be stuck

666
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: in a court for too long, Yes, probably, But he

667
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: didn't have to go and do that press conference either,

668
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, super impressive that the fact that he fronted

669
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: up and did it, and while retaining the authenticity that

670
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Ki will hate him. He's a genuine person in a

671
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: paddic where there's a lot of people sometimes that are

672
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: being bad actors, trying to portray themselves as something else.

673
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that, and I mean I live

674
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: in Spain and Jorge won the one with GP World

675
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: championship last year, and it's fair to say that he

676
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: does not have any kind of real profile here. In fact,

677
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: you get the impression that a lot of Spanish fans

678
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: just don't like him, or didn't like him certainly last year.

679
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: They feel that he's just a bit too cocky, He's

680
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: a bit he's a bit sure. He's not afraid to

681
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: put on Instagram him wearing nice watches and driving very

682
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: fast cars, which you know, fair enough, he's earned the

683
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: right to do that. But I really feel that this

684
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: kind of this arc this year has probably opened them

685
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: up on the human side to a lot of people.

686
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: And obviously it's been an absolute nightmare. It's been a

687
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: complete disaster of a year for him, and the Mateggi

688
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: incidant was just the kind of further Neil in that

689
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: particular coffin of what we had hoped from him this year.

690
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: But I do think that humanly he's maybe endeared himself

691
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: to some and I think if he can come back

692
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: next year strongly and perform well and be fighting for

693
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: risk winds, then I think is yeah, I think his

694
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: profile will have, you know, taken a big boost from

695
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: this whole episode.

696
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.

697
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: I think what you guys have both said, like completely.

698
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: My first thought when Matt told me to watch that

699
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: interview in the press conference was just the vulnerability, and

700
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: that's something we don't often get to see from these

701
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Moto GP writers because there are these tough marcho men.

702
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: Who race blacks at super fast.

703
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: So for me looking at that as yeah, like I agree,

704
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Like you see Juae Martine as this character, we got

705
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: to actually see him for.

706
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: The first time.

707
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, great point.

708
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: So I think from like a like the fan side

709
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: of things who sits at home.

710
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: To watch it, it was really refreshing.

711
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, he is the Madinator, the Terminator as

712
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: he calls himself, but he's just like meet you and

713
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: everybody else and feels all the same things.

714
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Just risk his life a little bit more than we do.

715
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: Hosting our podcast.

716
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: I think this is a very dangerous business, Freder, what

717
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: are you talking about?

718
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give you mine.

719
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bundle mine up because since we're just changing

720
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: the rules here, that's so fine. And I'm going to

721
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: bundle all of my young guns together.

722
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do all my favorite moments from them. So

723
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do.

724
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Senna's wins this year Silverstone, which was really really cool

725
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: because I was there, I got to experience it. I

726
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: didn't see any of the last lap because I was

727
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: trying to run to Park Ferm, but.

728
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: It was really cool to witness that and be there

729
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: with him.

730
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Then we had Joel when, like I said, I'm about

731
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: the vibes when he announced he was getting a bulldog

732
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: in Park Ferm just randomly in her wreath, and then

733
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: did a show we on the podium. And then I'm

734
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: going to say for Jacob because we know he's had

735
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: a really, really tough year. For me, it was just

736
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: his Grandma being his Brolly Dolly in Phillip Island. Like

737
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: they are my three favorites from the Ozzy Youngsters.

738
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: That is classic. I've forgot I've forgotten about the Philip

739
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: Earland greed. That's a classic, very good gotten a by

740
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: the Bulldog as well. Actually, yeah that was that was

741
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: a good moment. Yeah, I mean it's a it's a

742
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: pretty exciting time, isn't it to be an aussy watch

743
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: in Grand Prix racing? You know, Jack has Jack's had

744
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: his moments this year for sure, but there certainly is

745
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: a young generation of really exciting talent coming through. And

746
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: to see Senna do what he's done in just a

747
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: second season as a Grand Prix rider, not even as

748
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: a Model two rider, has been really special. I think

749
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: the highs that he's managed to hit this year have

750
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: shown that he could be destined maybe for the top

751
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: of the sport at some point in the not too

752
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: distant future. And you kind of just have to love Joel,

753
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: don't you Like, He's just this little terrier. And I

754
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: really felt from on Sunday in Portugal there I really

755
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: thought that was going to be his day. Likes the track,

756
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: had poor position, had a really good start and was

757
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: leading the first couple of well the first half of

758
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: the race, but just didn't quite pan out for him.

759
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, you really hope that his move next year

760
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: could bear fruit when he's going to be on Honda

761
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 3: machinery and yeah, Jacob, but just I really feel sorry

762
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: for the guy because I think he's done more than

763
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: enough in his two years in the paddock to earn

764
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: another year. For sure, we all know the trials and

765
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: tribulations he's gone through this year injuring himself during preseason,

766
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: missing the first two races, missing all of preseason testing,

767
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: I mean that is not easy. And then just a

768
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: couple of bike failures in key moments and key races

769
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: gave us me beyond for a podium finish in Aragon

770
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: and Barcelona. I think, yeah, just it really hasn't it

771
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: really hasn't fallen his way. But I think the sort

772
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: of maturity that he has shown in spite of all

773
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: of this toughness, you know, even if it doesn't work

774
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: out from him Model three, I think the kind of

775
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: character that he's shown, and you know, I have to

776
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: go and speak to him after every risk weekends. You know,

777
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: I'd do some work for Australian Motorcycle News, so I

778
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time with the Aussie riders, and

779
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, the sort of maturity that he shows is

780
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: just it's going to bear him very very well no

781
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: matter what his next step is going to be. So yeah,

782
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: I think he can. He can take a lot of

783
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: heart from how he handled this year.

784
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: I think.

785
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, those images of him beside the track when he

786
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: had the mechanical in cattle and you know that was

787
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: just you just felt you felt sick for the kid

788
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: because you know he'd done everything right and he was

789
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: in a position to have a good result after what

790
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: had been a really difficult season. That was a really

791
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: really tough watch. While we're on Australians, you probably should,

792
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: I do enjoy the fact that you missed the last

793
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: lap of setters first motor too, went by the way

794
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: he went all the way to Silverstone and didn't actually

795
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: see it, So that was outstanding for you. But the

796
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: other one we should probably be thankful for. We should

797
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: probably be sending a little hat tip to Fermin Eldergear

798
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: And I'll get to why, because if you had to

799
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: knocked Miguel Olivera off in Argentina, and Olivera missed all

800
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: of those races and was the fourth place of the

801
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: four Yamaha riders, meaning Yamaha could use that performance clause

802
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: to evict him from his seat, then maybe Jack Miller

803
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: is not on the grid next year, because you know,

804
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: Jack was the only one of those Yamaha riders that

805
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: was on a one year contract and the Sea's parted

806
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: and to be fair to Jack, like he was really

807
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: good at the start of the year when he got

808
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: to Pramak and we talked about him having the new

809
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: bike bounce that Jack has whenever he goes somewhere new,

810
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: he often comes out of the gate really really fast.

811
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 3: He's done that at previous addresses, really good in Kota

812
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 3: for example. But then that Oliver, you know, being out

813
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: and then being compromised, kind of opened the door for

814
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: Jack to perhaps extend his career again. And particularly after

815
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: Pramaha take a shot signed top rack for next year,

816
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: so we knew that it was five riders of four

817
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: seats effectively, but Jack was putting together a pretty iron

818
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: clad case of being retained and he had that sort

819
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: of high ground of being the second leading Yamaha rider

820
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: in terms of the points. So Australian fans, next time

821
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: you see fermin Aldeger, perhaps shout him a beer because

822
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: he's probably partially responsible for Jack. But you got the

823
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: grid next year.

824
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: Can we speaking about Jack Miller and beers. This is

825
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: another moment that I had that I didn't know whether

826
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: it was right to bring up.

827
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: Are used to recording here or what?

828
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: We also Jack in the.

829
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: U turn getting fined for it.

830
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got fired for that.

831
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Not the most Jack Miller thing that he can expect.

832
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 3: Well, he didn't get the beer and he got fined.

833
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean talk about bad luck, like if

834
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: you get a if it's the world most expensive beer,

835
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: then he never got.

836
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard that he's still been He's still

837
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: been bitching, to put it mildly to the people that

838
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: give him the final bite D And they're like, meet,

839
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: you were actually on the driving riding on the wrong

840
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: way on the track, like you just that's an automatic find.

841
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

842
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what's the old argument, the spirit of the regulations.

843
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: We need to have a clause for the spirit of

844
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: the regulations, Like come on, he was being offered free beer.

845
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: He's Australian, what do you expect expect?

846
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: Just before we move away from the Aussies and possibly

847
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: talk about Valencia and Neil, I wanted to talk to

848
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: you about Joel Kelso because one of the things that

849
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: we've spoke about on the pod is it seems like

850
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: Joel has this the first half of the race, he

851
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: has this pace and then something happens and he drops back.

852
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Was what we've seen before, and we know he's so

853
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: been so close to that first win, it just hasn't

854
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: quite happened. What are you seeing from Joel? What's the

855
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: missing piece here to get everything together? If he can

856
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: make it happen in Valencia.

857
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think coming into this year you could maybe

858
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: look at his strength and his fitness potentially as reasons

859
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: for that. I know he did a lot of off

860
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 4: season training on superbikes when he was back in Australia.

861
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: I think he's up to his motocross riding this year

862
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: so that when he's physically knackered, he is able to

863
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: perform at a bit of a better level. And we

864
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: saw that reflected in where it was at Quarta and

865
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: Herreth at the start of the season, where he was

866
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: on the podium and strong right the way through the

867
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: Portugal I think was more related to he was one

868
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: of the few riders that chose the softer front and

869
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: rear tire option. It didn't feel good with the medium

870
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: front during the weekend so he thought, you know what,

871
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: I'll risk it with the soft and just tore that

872
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: apart basically by mid race distance and couldn't stop the

873
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: bike mid corner from there. So I think that was

874
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: maybe more related to tire issues. And yet, I mean,

875
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 4: I guess there have been races in the mid point

876
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: of the season where we didn't see the best of Joel,

877
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: and he said in Philip Island that there were things

878
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: going on behind the scenes. He was never explicit about

879
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 4: what those things were, but I reading between the lines,

880
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: I think it was talks about twenty twenty six and

881
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: where he was going to end up, and I think

882
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: that was probably something that was preying on his mind somewhat.

883
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: I know his team manager, a Los angele To Nucci,

884
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 4: has been slightly harsh in some of the comments that

885
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: he's made about Joel, the fact that he maybe doesn't

886
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 4: quite have the requisite aggression when he's in those big one,

887
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: tho three group battles, And you wonder whether those kind

888
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: of public comments from his team manager were just maybe

889
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: an irritant to do all somewhat maybe playing on his mind.

890
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: But I think from the moment that he signed to

891
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: go to Honda next year with m lav Racing, which

892
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 4: you said, Missano, he's pretty much been at the front

893
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: of every race again, and I know he hasn't quite

894
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 4: managed to get the job done, but I just feel

895
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: with him it's maybe like, get one race went under

896
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: your belt and that'll just give you this kind of

897
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: level of confidence and prove that you can do it.

898
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: And I think it's it's almost that kind of weight

899
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 4: on his shoulders at the moment where it's like, yeah,

900
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: it's just not coming together for him because he's been

901
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: so close and it's still not quite happened.

902
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm just going to finish this off because

903
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: I did say those things that we wanted red flagged,

904
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: and can I just say the thing that I was

905
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: like red flagged is to stop saying Valencia is the

906
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: last dance?

907
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, are.

908
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: You gonna put that as you're title, Matt, No.

909
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: This is one of the this is one of the

910
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: things I do you enjoy about that Paddock Pass podcast? Actually,

911
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: because Adam Wheeler gets really really agitated about the cathedral

912
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: and the roller coaster and all of the other names

913
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: that we just trot out every year like nobody's ever

914
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: said them before. But yes, the last dance, and well,

915
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: we can't really use the last dance for Valencia this

916
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: time because technically is the last race. But for one

917
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: of the first times in a long time, we don't

918
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: have a live last round of the championship because Mark

919
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: won it so early. So that should my virtue of

920
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: it not being the last dance for a championship. Let's

921
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: just ban it for this weekend, and given that it's

922
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: bit of twenty two round season, perhaps we should just

923
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: come up with something that involves getting some sleep or

924
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: having a celebratory beer or something. No last dancing, perhaps

925
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: more beverages, no last dancing, last bearing, last bearing, indeed

926
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: perfect right, you.

927
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Two, Let's preview Valencia because we saw that Joje Martin

928
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: is back and Maverick Vignalees is also returning, and we

929
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: know that Boula guy is still replacing Mark Marquez as

930
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: well this weekend, so we won't seeing him back in

931
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Bred this year. Benil, let's focus on Valencia. What's your

932
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: thoughts this weekend? Are we going to see something similar

933
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: where it's been the bez Pedro Costa maybe Alex Marquez

934
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Peco hopefully in the mix.

935
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think that's probably a fair thing.

936
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 4: We don't have the benefit of going back to twenty

937
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: twenty four, because obviously Valencia was canceled. There was like

938
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: some tragic flooding Aronda area, this time a year ago,

939
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: which caused the final race to be shifted at the

940
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: last minute to Barcelona. So it's twenty twenty three the

941
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: last time we were there, and that was a pretty

942
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: weird risk weekend in which Martin and Banna were going

943
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 4: for the title. Martin had that spectacular high side coming

944
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: out of what turned four. I think it was that

945
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: contact with Mark which is which essentially ended his his

946
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: championship tilt, and Bana won it in style ahead of

947
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: Zarko I think in digen Antonio. But we also had

948
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: two ktms leading that last race of the year, I

949
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: think both Sorry man, but it was it was what

950
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 4: could have been moment for KTM, for sure. They still

951
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: haven't won a dry race since god knows when was

952
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: it Barcelona twenty twenty one, and that was that was

953
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: probably the closest they had come in the in the

954
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: interim period since, so I'm inclined to think that KTM

955
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: should be pretty well suited to this race. Weekend. I

956
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: think we didn't mention Pedro Acosta in our moments of

957
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: the season, and I think one of the more positive

958
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: and pleasing storylines in the second half of the year

959
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: has been his evolution from kind of moody teenager that

960
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: is giving off the impression that he wants to be

961
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 4: anywhere but in the Orange garage where in an orange

962
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 4: T shirt, to being a kind of this rider that's

963
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: accepted what he's got and is essentially absolutely determined to

964
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: get the absolute most out of what he has the

965
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: tools he has at his disposal. I think that's been

966
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: that's been great, and that was reflected in the sprint

967
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 4: race in Portugal, where he was just absolutely awesome to watch, like,

968
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: oh yeah, could not sort of imagine a more kind

969
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: of heroic performance, and we speak, We spoke about Zarka

970
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: almost achieving heroic failure in Lamon. I mean, essentially that's

971
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: what costed it in Portamu. He didn't win, but you

972
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 4: know the fact that he was so close to a

973
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 4: Jacaddi when it was clear that the bike wasn't really

974
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: ready to be at that level was fantastic view. And

975
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: so I get accused quite often of being a bit

976
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 4: too aboard the Pedro hype train. But I think when

977
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: you see the last couple of months, I don't see

978
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: how it's possible to not be because yeah, it's I

979
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 4: think it's been really, really impressive, and I have a

980
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: funny little sneak and feeling this could be this could

981
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 4: be the weekend.

982
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, if there's still tickets

983
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: going on the cost A hype train, I'll buy one,

984
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: because after what he's done in these past five or

985
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: six I think it's like four sprint podiums in the

986
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 3: last five and three Grand Prix podiums in the last

987
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 3: four or something. I've probably got those back to front.

988
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: But he's been so good in this second half of

989
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: the year. And while we're doing fearless predictions here and Ita,

990
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: given that I am on a winning streak of exactly

991
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: one prediction, I am going to go out on a

992
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: limit saying we're going to have a seventh different Motor

993
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: GP race. Wit are in seven races to finish the season,

994
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: and Pedro Costa is going to win his first Grand Prix,

995
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: so we don't have to talk about him as one

996
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: of the only four full time riders on the grid

997
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: who hasn't won a Grand Prix, so that's what the

998
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: crystal ball is telling me. And if the crystal ball

999
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: doesn't work, then I can throw it in the bin

1000
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: because it'll be out of date because the next race

1001
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: will be in twenty twenty six.

1002
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. Matt Clayton

1003
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: drops the mic at the end of the podcast, Neil,

1004
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: can you beat that? Have you got any good predictions

1005
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: for us?

1006
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: He's going to get seventh, seventh, Peco?

1007
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, probably Pecle. Yeah, I mean I know,

1008
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: again we haven't really spoken about Peco, but that's probably

1009
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: been one of the stories of the year as well,

1010
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 4: hasn't it for less positive reasons.

1011
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in my red flag list for sure.

1012
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah he was gonna have yeah, yeah, but yeah, I

1013
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: mean I do fancy Pedro, but I can't really see

1014
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: anyone other than Alex Marquez Bez probably as well. I

1015
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: think those are going to be the three guys have

1016
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: been there the behind mark this year. I think those

1017
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: are the next three riders, and you know Katao as well.

1018
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: I would put in there, but the bike isn't quite

1019
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: the level of the THEMA has or sorry of the

1020
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: and the KTM and did you Caddy and also a

1021
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: bit of a dark horse. I do fancy Honda to

1022
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: have a decent weekend. This has historically been a great

1023
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: track for Honda, and it's quite tight. There's a lot

1024
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 4: of stop and go corners, and they've shown in places

1025
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: like Matteggi that the kind of updated RC two one

1026
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 4: three V can be really competitive in those circumstances. Joan

1027
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 4: Meyer has his only Grand Prix victory or his only

1028
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: Motor GP victory sorry, at Valencia, so maybe going to

1029
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: tip mirror is a bit of an eye side shot

1030
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 4: for the podium like that juicy?

1031
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that a lot? All right, Well, Neil, thank

1032
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us.

1033
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: On the Fox Sports Pittalk pod. It has been an

1034
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: honor chatting with you and we can't wait to hear

1035
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: you on the broadcast this weekend.

1036
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 4: It's been an absolute pleasure. Thanks very much for the invitation,

1037
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: and yeah, always a pleasure to chat more to GP

1038
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: with you guys.

1039
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1040
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1041
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1042
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,719
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1043
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1044
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1045
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: last beer or something we're calling.

1046
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: It for the year. It's the final race, so and.

1047
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1048
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1049
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