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Speaker 2: you look rugged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've had a bit on this morning.

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Speaker 2: Well, that leads us in Campbell Graham on today obviously

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Speaker 1: That's a huge loss to South in seventy seven ways.

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Speaker 1: It was the right call. It was the right call.

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Speaker 1: Look, I tee what he did Coop for for a

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get into this, Campbell Graham interf. You're talking

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Speaker 1: Spruce myself up. I have a good clap as opposed

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Speaker 2: These are all funny. Walk out of this room, Campbell Graham.

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Speaker 2: How are you mate?

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Speaker 2: He's got the he's got the old Souse polo on there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll be right mate. Have you ever do you ever

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Speaker 1: To what stretch it's had, you're not been there, it's

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Speaker 1: The good good news of Cooper's I don't know if

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Speaker 2: So who would you have in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think I would. I would put the

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: I think I think there is still plenty of depth

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Speaker 2: So who's your right senator? Because you picked three.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you at Latrell. Yeah. If I'm Madge and

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Speaker 1: I see in recording this, Bunny's are about to play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Wayne Bennett coming to the club next year.

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Speaker 2: I suppose we wanted to ask you your first impressions

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Speaker 3: Probably the excitement. Yeah, I built a pretty good relationship

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Speaker 3: And so I definitely think they were my first two thoughts,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you can anticipate and be lift out

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Speaker 3: I think he just has this presence where you just

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Speaker 3: I think I like that Jack was telling me some quirks.

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Speaker 1: Wayne's got some quirks, one of which he doesn't not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had physio The first day Eddie

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Speaker 2: It's a very old school thing, though, isn't it like

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Speaker 2: shaking No Craig Bellamy only liked to shake your hand

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Boys would always go up to try to and he'd

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Speaker 2: it comes from an erar of like it's a they

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like what I gathered from Wayne's perspective

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Speaker 3: But apart from that, you don't really get ones.

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Speaker 1: Dancing after the games. Suddenly he just doing the robot.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he means to do the robots, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done that. I've seen a few videos of

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know if he goes to bingo

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Speaker 1: Blake told me a Newcastle. I don't know whether it's

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Speaker 2: You're the same, You're the same. That's your well You've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go about ten the boys. Sometimes I always say,

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Speaker 1: It was the most pathetic thing ever.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's your opinion on every club that Wayne has

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Speaker 2: left has generally gone downwards? Like they've had an immediate

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, that's it's an interesting question. I

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Speaker 3: You know, Wayne very much left that up to JD.

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Speaker 3: So in terms of how we played footy, that didn't

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Speaker 1: If you look at like through the history, sometimes really

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Speaker 1: Like Wayne's pushing a thousand games, Well, let's kie going.

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Speaker 1: I love surfing, I won't go. I won't go to Brisbane.

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00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: It's in land. And Wayne said, don't worry. We'll get

436
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: a boat and we'll get a house for you and

437
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: straight Broke Island you can serve and that will take

438
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: you to Traineah.

439
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 2: He could have got it done too.

440
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: Probably I've grown growing up. Where did you grow up?

441
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 3: I grew up in South Sydney, Kensington, which is not

442
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: far from Arubra, so I've been in. I played for

443
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: Urba Lions as a junior, so I've been in and

444
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: around the area.

445
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: Brow Boys, yeah, I could sell. Yeah, so you're South,

446
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,959
Speaker 2: you're South junior then I suppose.

447
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

448
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: But they the team you support growing up, Yeah, I had.

449
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: I actually had a soft spot for I definitely went

450
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: for Souse, but I had a soft spot for Wayne

451
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 3: Bennett and Bennie Hornby's Dragons in twenty ten because my

452
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: favorite player at the time was Brett morros Hes to

453
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: love watching him play, so he was someone I always

454
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: wanted to I suppose to play like, and I liked

455
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: a lot of the players that they had at the time.

456
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, Souse is my team.

457
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting reading, like, your mum's from Coventry in England,

458
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: that's from Glasgow. He's Gladugion in Scotland. Tough town. Does

459
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: he still have a bit of the Scottish broke.

460
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty thick. A lot of my mates, you know,

461
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: almost half to translate for him, he's got the thick accent,

462
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's he's now a bigger fan of rugby

463
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: league than his football. I think he's a staunch Celtic supporter.

464
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 3: But you know he loves South Sydney now he comes

465
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: to all the games. He's been in every game in

466
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: Sydney this year, even though I've been playing, So yeah,

467
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: he loves it.

468
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 2: But have you got passports?

469
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: Have you got like I don't, but I'm eligible for

470
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: British passport?

471
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: So and is that does that count Scotland as well?

472
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: So that's England and Scotland.

473
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: And Scotland, Wales and the public of Violand and sorry

474
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: Northern Ireland. So Celtic is yes, Celtic Irek. The biggest

475
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: rivalry in sport is Celtic and Rangers, Catholics and Protestants.

476
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: You see an old firm derby game.

477
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: Mate.

478
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: Well, the nickname of Glasgow back in the seventies and

479
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: eightly was stab City, as a basically called it.

480
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: It's a really really have you have you been back there?

481
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: No?

482
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: I went to Edinburgh in twenty twenty two when we're

483
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: on tour. We went up there for a weekend. But

484
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: my brother and my dad on the same sort of

485
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: when I was playing over in the UK. They came

486
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: over and they went to a game in Glasgow, derby game,

487
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: and they were saying that the pubs beforehand they have,

488
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: you know, a section where it's just Rangers and a

489
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: place next door where it's just Celtic supporters. So they

490
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: really do have to keep them separated because you know

491
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: that that staunch about it it is. They were saying

492
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: over there, some people's entire lives around this club and

493
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: the rivalry.

494
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: So we're gone at the end of the year. Yeah,

495
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: we went to Edinburgh last year. I've never been in

496
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: Glasgow and people say it's one of those well, you know,

497
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those places where it was always

498
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: a really tough rough actually, like similar when you talk

499
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: about Redfern, where these days it's been gentrified and just

500
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: real hip area.

501
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: It's very much well it sounds scary, Glasgow. It's got

502
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: a scary name. It's like Moscow.

503
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: You heard this, You've heard of the Glasgow Smile. Yeah, yeah,

504
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: what's that where they got people and cut them like that,

505
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: like the joke, like.

506
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: The Jokers and the Glasgow Kiss is just a nice head.

507
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, now you're old man, I believe him to

508
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: be Jack. Jack's giving this information believe him to be

509
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: a Rod Stewart fan, and he's got a Rod Stewart

510
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: signed soccer.

511
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: Ball he does.

512
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: He's still sitting in our living room. So how'd they

513
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: come about?

514
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: So my dad actually actually asked him the other day

515
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: because Jack sort of tip me up that we'll be

516
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: talking about Rod Rod Stuart. But asked him the other

517
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: day how many times he's been to see him and

518
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 3: he said he's been seven times in Sydney, knows that,

519
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: and he said it'd be twenty plus over his life.

520
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: And there was one.

521
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: Time because every time Rod performs, he signs a bunch

522
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 3: of soccer balls and kicks him out into the crowd,

523
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: and my dad was sort of at the section where

524
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 3: you know where they separate two different sections of the

525
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: crowd and there's usually barricade in between. There's some security

526
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: guards sort of standing in that section. One of the

527
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: balls has ended up in that area, just in front

528
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: of my dad. My dad's at the gate there and

529
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: he's leant over to pick it up, and because it's

530
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: been quite tall, he's had to get off his feet

531
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: and almost lean right over to reach it. And as

532
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: he's going to reach he's toppled over and he's concussed himself,

533
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: so he doesn't know where he is and his mate's

534
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: gone with him with the security guards to the medical

535
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: tent and yeah he's come to and sure enough he

536
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: had the soccer ball. So yeah, that's still sitting in

537
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: our living That.

538
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: Is that's that is awesome. And you got a Rod

539
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Stewart constant. I mean, he's such a massive Celtic supporter.

540
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: When he does You're in My Heart, he named that

541
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: You're in my Heart, You're in my soul, that's written

542
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: about Celtic and when he does as song Jingy Johnston,

543
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: all their great players comes up on the screen. Yeah,

544
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. When we worked at Triple

545
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: M Stretch, there's a very famous Rod Stewart story. Whether

546
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: it's true, I don't know. Every single person miss to

547
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: get on. I'm talking like we did it with opposition

548
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: Luda Wayne Swan. You just go have you got Rod

549
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: Stewart's dooring for and they go, no one, do you

550
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: want one? Yeah? So Rod Stewart Stewart story is. Rod

551
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: Stewart's in the seventies, right, He's out partying stream fellows

552
00:26:50,480 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: in London anyway out of his stummach. Yeah. AnyWho, that's all,

553
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: it's all good. Allegedly your brothers and sisters stretch. Yeah

554
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: I got.

555
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: I've got an older brother and an older half sister.

556
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, so my brother.

557
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: He's twenty eight and my sister's forty three.

558
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Of them yeah right, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, funny supporters.

559
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so my brother plays for the local Southeastern

560
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: A grade team based in Malibar. And yeah, my sister

561
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: doesn't watch too much for you, but yeah, right to

562
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: see our supporter.

563
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Now, hey, let's go, let's travel and do the rugby leagues.

564
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: Fear for a second. Your debut around twenty two, twenty seventeen.

565
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: You're in school, I believe you, Saint Greeks.

566
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: No, I was massling it Roundwick.

567
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're in school here and you play against

568
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: the dragons. How did you get that news so that

569
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: you get about to debut?

570
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I was, you know, at the time of sort

571
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: of the you know, the trial HS exams.

572
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was.

573
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 3: I was studying for them at home and good student.

574
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I wasn't a naughty kid, but in terms

575
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: of you know, academic student, I probably wasn't It wasn't great.

576
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: But yes, I was at home studying and I had

577
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: a twenties game that night against the Dragons, obviously before

578
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: first grade, and you know, I was sort of prepping

579
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 3: to play that and so I was doing a bit

580
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: of study at home and Madge called me and said

581
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: Robert James gone down with a knee injury yesterday, captain

582
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: run and that I'll be playing first grade that night.

583
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: So to be honest as sort of how you know,

584
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: I I suppose I preferred getting told on the day.

585
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: There wasn't a big build up to it.

586
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: Sort of just less nervous.

587
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of just throwing thrown at me. And yeah,

588
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: before I knew I was.

589
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Out, there was Dad's reaction.

590
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah that was schaffed. A few tears from Marmon. Yeah,

591
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: Dad was tough, So I think they were a little

592
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: bit nervous as well. How did it feel walking into

593
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: the dressing room that night.

594
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

595
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: I was shipping myself a bit. But something that definitely

596
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: helped was the players that were in that team at

597
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: the time.

598
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: We had great leaders.

599
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: We had Sam, Greg and Soto were the three main leaders.

600
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: And Greg wasn't playing obviously, done his a c L

601
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: that year, but he presented me in a jersey and

602
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 3: I'll never forget.

603
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, before we ran out, we're in a.

604
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: Huddle and you know, Sammy sort of addressed the team

605
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: and you know, before we ran out told me that

606
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, they all believed in me, and that you know,

607
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: they had my back out there.

608
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: So you know, how the game, how the game go.

609
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: It was actually a really close game, and I remember

610
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: it pretty well. Actually. I remember they were peppering me

611
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: in the corner with Gareth with it was putting a

612
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: few bombs up and Joel Thompson was in me about

613
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: being this string beam and he was going to take

614
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: my head off. So yeah, that was good intro. But

615
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: it was a close game. Bryceon Gooden ended up scoring

616
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: in the corner with not too long left and run

617
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: I kicked the goal from the sideline to put us

618
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: in front and ended up winning.

619
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: So a bit walking back in the sheds after the game,

620
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: it must have been the greatest film is your life? Yeah,

621
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: it was awesome.

622
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: I went over and you know, as you do, when

623
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: I saw all my friends that came out and my

624
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: family and that was a special moment. And then you know,

625
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: to sing the team song.

626
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Going to school on Monday. It must have been a

627
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: pretty special moment. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

628
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: A few teachers started, you know, treat me a bit

629
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: better at that.

630
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: But it's good to do your homework. Don't worry about

631
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: it's fine.

632
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Who was the coach then? Was that match?

633
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

634
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: Okay?

635
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: How was Madge's coach? A style different? Dwayne?

636
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: To be honest, I didn't I probably didn't experience enough.

637
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't a full time player at that point. I

638
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: was in twenties, and I'd done two weeks in the preseason.

639
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: So you hadn't trained at all with the team apart

640
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: from two weeks.

641
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: I've done a handful of captains runs here and there

642
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: because I was at school.

643
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: The school really good about it about it.

644
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: You know, if I ever needed to go to training,

645
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: they would, you know, let me have the day off.

646
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: But I did a couple of weeks in the preseason

647
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: and then, as I said, did a handful of captains

648
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: runs just to fill up numbers. And yeah, sort of

649
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: Stephen bradburyed it and got my way.

650
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: Into So twenty eighteen, you have sixteen appearances. SEEPS has

651
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: taken over there and you had a pretty successful year.

652
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: But twenty nineteen, it must have been strange that off

653
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: season twenty nineteen because you've got seeps this coach and

654
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: these roomors about you know, he going to Brisbane and

655
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: Wayne's the coach of Brisbane, rumors about he can go

656
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: in the South, and then halfway through the preseason you

657
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: just swapped. That must have been so weird.

658
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: It was weird, and you know, as a young player,

659
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: was sort of for me, I thought it was a

660
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: bit of a challenge because you know, I've gone for

661
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: Madge my first year and then straight to Sieves and

662
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: now I've got another new coach in my third year.

663
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: So sort of thought, well, I've got to, I guess,

664
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: prove myself again to a new coach.

665
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: But it's hard to build that. It's hard to build

666
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: that trust with the coach.

667
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, And you know, I feel like I

668
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: suppose it was a good thing.

669
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: You know.

670
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: It sort of you know, makes you, you know, knuckle

671
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: down and try to prove yourself again, which was good

672
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: for myself. It was good motivation. But you touched on

673
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 3: it earlier, made where you know, Steves is definitely one

674
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: of those coaches that high on statistics, and you know,

675
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: he has his way of doing it, and he's very

676
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: very detailed in terms of game planning and structure. That's

677
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: how he was in twenty eighteen. And then you know,

678
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: you get Wayne who comes in and you know it's

679
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: almost completely different. So it was definitely a bit of

680
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: a shock and a bit of a change, but you

681
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: know it was great.

682
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: Well you have a look at who you did better

683
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: to the swap. It's just exactly what we're talking about.

684
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: Seebs is very technically minded and stats. Wayne just goes

685
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: here and goes, well, I've just got to be Wayne,

686
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: and then Sebs goes to Brisbane. You know, he's got

687
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: all the tactics, but it's the hole that Wayne leaves.

688
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: I remember just before I went and watched Jack play

689
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: a trol game when he's played Paramount, and Cody came

690
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: over and I said, house things with Wayne and Wayne

691
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: he said, I'm rattled. I said, you know what he's

692
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: rattle about? He has mad He just from what I'm

693
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: used to, the game plans are just too simple.

694
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, rattling him.

695
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know how I'm going to go.

696
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think, you know, for players like Cody

697
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: it's probably what you need really like just yea, let

698
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: him sort of come up with how he wants to

699
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: play footy and well that's that's how things really worked

700
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen through twenty one.

701
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: So it was Wayne's favorites. I think Cody.

702
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: Cody was definitely up there Sam at the time, you know,

703
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: twenty ninety, Sam was still playing. So they'd had a

704
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: good relationship because they had, you know, coach where he

705
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: coached Sam in I think it was the World Cup

706
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: for England, Yeah, England. Yeah, yeah, so they had a

707
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: great relationship.

708
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

709
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: I think in twenty twenty one when we made that

710
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: run in the Grand Final, Cody was in red hot

711
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: form and you know, Wayne just marveled at how he

712
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: was playing.

713
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: I guess what about that twenty nineteen year, because that

714
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: for you personally, it was a big year, like you

715
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: had a big breakout kind of year. You know, you'd

716
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: had your debut obviously, and then sort of in and

717
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: out twenty eighteen and then this year you really cement

718
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: your spot. Was Wayne's style of coaching? Was that something

719
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: just that just kind of did you feel that simp

720
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: that simple style, no pressure, that kind of just clicked

721
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: it for you.

722
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Wayne, Wayne was definitely you know, I suppose

723
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: like a totn earlier, I felt like, you know, I

724
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: had to proved myself again, and to be honest, I

725
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: think you know, something that definitely helped was playing outside

726
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: Cody on the left wing. I started the year on

727
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: the left wing and you know, as you know, fair

728
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: few tries to get scored out there on our left

729
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: wing with AJ, So that was definitely something that gave

730
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: me confidence at the start of that season, and I

731
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: remember just being able to build off that and then

732
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: you know, that's when the back end of that year,

733
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: Wayne had the confidence to give me a crack at

734
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: center for the first time, and you know, I really

735
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: enjoyed that.

736
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: So it's like twenty eighteen final, but twenty nine preliminary final,

737
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: but twenty twenty the same again. Got that close. Twenty

738
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: twenty one must have been a heartbreaking because that really

739
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: close loss. That must have stung. Yeah, it really did.

740
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: You know.

741
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: It was probably one of those games that you know,

742
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: both teams you deserve to win or no one really

743
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: deserved to lose. I thought, you know, we'd have we'd

744
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: had a really tough win against Penrith a couple of

745
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: weeks before in the first round of the finals and

746
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: then had a good performance against Manly and you know,

747
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: I thought everything was just falling into place for us

748
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: in terms of where we were as a club and

749
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: a team. And you know, we had a great mix

750
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: of you know, young blokes. But also you know, even

751
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: though Benji Marshall on the bench, so.

752
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: He was killing it.

753
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was playing great footy for us. She wishes

754
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: he was there everyone now, but in that stretch, like you,

755
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Blake's played really good on the night. So to Penrith,

756
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: it was a terrific game of football. And I'm curious

757
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: just how Wayne was in that round final week, you know,

758
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: the the most pressure going into that really big week

759
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: because some coaches just lose their bottle. We've seen coaches

760
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: before lose their bottle. They can't win Grand finals. How

761
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: was how was Wayne that week? Yeah?

762
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: It was just Wayne really didn't didn't really change too

763
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: much at all. Remember, he sort of broke broke the

764
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: tension a bit. He got Mark Nichols to get up

765
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: and give an inspirational speech before every training session, which

766
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: broke the tension. And then before the night before the

767
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: Grand Final. We had a comedian come in as well,

768
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: so I think he definitely wanted us to go in

769
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: there with a more relaxed approach to you know, he

770
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 3: didn't want us to be able to know up tight.

771
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: So Mark Nichols going to.

772
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: Him and that Tom Hazelton they are he might be

773
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: Mark Nichols Son. He's a spit out of his mouth.

774
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Just see Tom hazel the other night they kicked off

775
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: something and he just went being.

776
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a freak, that man.

777
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: He's our age, Yeah he is.

778
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: Did you ever play I had this conversation as well.

779
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: I don't remember, so I don't remember playing him in

780
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: the juniors, but I know that he was around our

781
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: age because, like he was saying, he verse him in twenties.

782
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I think he was playing in Golden because he was

783
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: recommended to the Sharks by the great Gavin Miller, and

784
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: so I think he might have been just playing bush. Yeah.

785
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, because I remember seeing his age

786
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: because he looks eighty.

787
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: He does. Yeah, he was. Tyson purred, We do.

788
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: We played some juniors against each other?

789
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: Is it correct we might have done?

790
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't don't. Tan.

791
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably you probably would have flogged this.

792
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't manly at the time. You would have absolutely rolled.

793
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: Oad of us.

794
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: At the end of that year, you get your first

795
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: taste of representative football playing for Australia that World Cup.

796
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: You get chosen in the big squad. That was male coaching.

797
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: That was end of twenty twenty two. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

798
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: that was male head coach. So we just lost a

799
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: prelim to Penrith. And I remember that year. You know,

800
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: I was the first year with JD and you know,

801
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: we sort of sort of had a bit of an

802
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: up and down year, but the back end, you know,

803
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: I felt like I as a team, we're playing good

804
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: footing and you know, myself personally, I was sort of

805
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 3: finding agree with form and you know, maybe getting picked

806
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: in because I was initially in the Scottish squad. I

807
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: was in the Scotland squad and I was in the

808
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: WhatsApp and everything, so I was in contact with the

809
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: coach and you know, I sort of had my trip

810
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: planned out to be playing for Scotland and then now

811
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: I announced the extended squad and then Scotland a couple

812
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: of days later announced their squad and I wasn't in it.

813
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: So that was their final squad, and I actually contacted

814
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: the Scotland squad and said, hey, mate, I know that

815
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: I'm in the extended I was his squad, but there's

816
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: still cuts to be made. You know if I am cut,

817
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: is my position still there in the Scottish squad? And said,

818
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: oh yeah mate, you know, we'll see what happens. And

819
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: then so I guess in the back of my mind,

820
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: although I was hopeful, I wasn't one hundred confident that

821
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: I would make that final squad. And then sure enough

822
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: Mark Elson gave me the quarter so that a big

823
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: playing It.

824
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Must have been a strong Scottish squad to go.

825
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: It didn't sound that convincing. He's like, oh, yeah, we'll

826
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: see what happened.

827
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: Who's this again? Graham? Who? Hello?

828
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: Graham?

829
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Helloda made who's your roomy on the tour?

830
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Midland I wanted to change.

831
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: We just have to go away and I had Jason

832
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: smith It was a gun player, but Smithy walked into

833
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: the room, got a chair, got up on it, just

834
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: just disengaged the smoke, alarm and smoke for six weeks.

835
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I had Laurie daily. I was just walked around Nate

836
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: as soon as you went in and just naked, just

837
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: like standing there just in front of completely nude, which

838
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: was sort of a little off pudding.

839
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Has he got a big old fellow?

840
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's decent.

841
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: I've always wondered.

842
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's decent. It's decent. Quite a good looking penis. Yeah. Uh.

843
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: And now one Billy Moore. A weird story. When I

844
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: roomed with Billy Moore. Right, he's sitting there and he goes,

845
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: you remember the last time that we roomed together, oh ship,

846
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: and it was one more under nines. I got billeted

847
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: with Billy Moore when he was in we went and

848
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: played against Tenderfield. Don't that's a twist, that's.

849
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: Billeted with Billy Moore?

850
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Yes?

851
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that? Did you piss the bed or did

852
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: you leave or something?

853
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: Yes? I pissed the bed because I was put with

854
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: this other billet and he wasn't a very nice guy.

855
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: So this kangaroos to I'm sorry.

856
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kangaroo tall we went when we got billeted,

857
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: but now he was and as I went away and

858
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: this guy I got put. You know, when you're standing

859
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: there was a billet and the keys, you look over

860
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: and go oh, please not hear, and I went, you're

861
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: fucking hell anyway. He said a few things when I

862
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: got there, this is not good, and I got in

863
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: touch with the training when I was I can't stay

864
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: with this guy. It's something weird. So they put me

865
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: in with this family and turned out with Billy Moore's family.

866
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: But I was so distressed. I was home that homesick

867
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: that they put me to bed at three in the afternoon.

868
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: I woke up at three in the morning. I just

869
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: completely pissed it. So mate, I had my wits about me.

870
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: I threw the gear off, put a new pair of

871
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: like clothes on, laid down and try to blaying ability

872
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: that he pissed a beat.

873
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: You got a dog? Yeah? What about some of the

874
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: characters on that Aussie talk? Who was in that? Who

875
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: was in that squad?

876
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Monster was there?

877
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: Fox? Oh god? Yeah, there's some loud characters.

878
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: Have some big nights out on the drink.

879
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were some good nights. You know.

880
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: I was an EMU for I think four of the

881
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: six games that we played. So what is the is

882
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: if you're out of the nineteen players that get selected

883
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: to play that game, you're an EMU. So it's actually

884
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: expected that you go out the night before, you know,

885
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: as a group with the coaching staff. I have a

886
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: few beers and then you know, see where the night goes.

887
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was. I was a pretty experienced EMU.

888
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: I was actually eighteenth man and nineteenth man for a

889
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: couple of games, so I was only em you twice.

890
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: But I think Murray Talangey was amy about four times.

891
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

892
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: I heard he was the most capped dem you on

893
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: that tour.

894
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so by the end of it he was actually

895
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: asking for a breathough because it's pretty rattled by the

896
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: back end. But that was good. It was a lot

897
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: of fun as tour.

898
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Which I think they played that tool probably about eighteen

899
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: games just to play all the club sides. Terry Liane

900
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: played every game, every single game. To Relyan played. He

901
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: was never an EMU once, which meant, I mean looking

902
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: at the d of the game. I mean, look at

903
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day. It's the mid eighties, so

904
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: he probably got pissed at a half time.

905
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume. So, Hey, we spoke about origin earlier.

906
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: You obviously played for Australia. Now how big a goal

907
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: is state of origin for you?

908
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

909
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: It's it's massive for me. You know, I feel like

910
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: I've been fairly close a couple of times and it

911
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: just wasn't to be, you know, through injury or you know,

912
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: selection or whatever. But it's definitely something that I want

913
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: to tick off in my career. And you know, as

914
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier, there's plenty of competition for those spots,

915
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: those outside back spots for the Blues and for myself.

916
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: You know, it sounds cliche, but it is just about

917
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: narrowing my focus for South Sydney and playing good footy

918
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: there and you know, I'm a believing that, you know,

919
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: the rest will take care of itself.

920
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: So although it.

921
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: Is something that I would love to do and it's

922
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: definitely a goal of mine, it's, you know, something that

923
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: I try not to pay too much attention to. You know,

924
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: I just want to play good footy for South And.

925
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: It's weird, isn't it, how like you can especially these days,

926
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: like back in your day, Matthew, it used to be

927
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Australia was the epitome. Yes, and now you can be

928
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: playing for Australia and then not there was playing.

929
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Stepping stones, play first grade, play well, get picked for

930
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: country or city origin, do well there, get picked for

931
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: State of Origin, but the ultimate goal was to play Australia.

932
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: Do you think a bit of that stems from you

933
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: know the rise of Samoa and toler and teams like that,

934
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: where you know these opportunities are there for the Australian squad,

935
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: but you know you get most like Crichton and Brian

936
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: to back from New South Wales and it just adds

937
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: to more competition for those spots.

938
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: I reckon stretch that I think international rabbit leagues on

939
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: the way back watching New Zealand put the Clooners through

940
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 1: Australia last year. Bit I'm thirty nil right. A part

941
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: of me as an Australian and former player there you go,

942
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: oh that's about it. Help with this part of me,

943
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: the fact that as the rugby league fan that I

944
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: like it and you know when England occasionally beat Australia

945
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: like it. And you know the rise of Samoa and

946
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: Tonga and Papua New Guinea will get better and we

947
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: see Fog improving all the time. It's just great for

948
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: the game. That is my wish as great as state

949
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: of origin is. My wish is that international football is

950
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: the pinnacle what about teammates and opponents. Who's the best, the.

951
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: Best guy you played with? Stretch I play. I've been

952
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: lucky enough to play with a fair few talented players.

953
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: But for me, two people are hot stuff. But two

954
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: people that stick out, probably because I played a lot

955
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: of my footy with the Mcam Murray and Cody Cody Walker,

956
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: I think, you know, especially because I'm more exposed to

957
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: know what they do at training and I can see,

958
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: you know, I see a lot of what they do.

959
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: And you know, I think Cody Walker's ball playing ability,

960
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's really second to none, but also its

961
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: intelligence around you know, how to react to defense, and

962
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: you know his cues when when a defensive team, you know,

963
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: makes a decision and the decision to make the attacking

964
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: decision to make off of those cues.

965
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: His reaction time to like even a lot of people

966
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: don't even see someone jamming before Cody season.

967
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: Well, he's almost got that anticipation that he knows how

968
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 3: the defense will react if something depending on what he does.

969
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: So he's definitely one that sticks out. And then Cam Murray,

970
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I've been lucky enough to play

971
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: with Camp since you know, we're fifteen so I just

972
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: love what he brings and I think you know his

973
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: work ethic on the field, you know, he's outstanding, but

974
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: he's also ball playing ability and he's just one of

975
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: those players it's just.

976
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Never going to let you down. Who's your best made

977
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: at see us?

978
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: My best mate at Souse or Dean Hawkins is my

979
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: guy who is yeah, yeah, he's He's been there from

980
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: day dots.

981
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: Who's the tightest with the coin with their wallets?

982
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: Damian cooks out there, as is Alex Johnson. Actually I

983
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: was John's. It's quite bad. He very rarely shouts a coffee.

984
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: But Damien Cook, Damien Cook's definitely up there.

985
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: Cygenix Cook my favorite ever.

986
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: There was a there's he's not there anymore, so I

987
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: don't want to. But there's a player at the Storm

988
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: who they used. They were so tight with their money.

989
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: So you know, when you go and get like a

990
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: big bracy and you might I'll add a hash brown,

991
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: I'll add avocado. So avocado at a particular cafe in

992
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Melbourne was five dollars at a site and there was

993
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: a rulers cross the road and he goes, what a

994
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: bloody what a bloody g up that is. So he

995
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: walked across the road, bought an avocado for a dollar,

996
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: and then walked up to the bloke like we knew

997
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: run the cafe, and he said, Oh, I've just bought

998
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: this avocado, would you guys mind just slicing it up

999
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: for me and bring it out with my big breakfast disgrace.

1000
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 2: And it was the most embarrassing thing to see.

1001
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: Okay, does it rhyme with CAFUSI?

1002
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't rhyme with anything. It doesn't rhyme with anything.

1003
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Because I do that sometimes with vodka. As I've done

1004
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: that before. I've been to places where stretch. I'll go

1005
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: across and I'll last for a Voker and soda and

1006
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: they'll say, oh, sixteen bucks, and I go sixteen bucks.

1007
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: So I walk across the road of the bottler and

1008
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: just fill up in my pockets full of Voker, asked

1009
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: for a pint of vice water and bush. I never

1010
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: actually knew that they were catching me until they called Jack,

1011
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: and didn't they Once they called him, minute said, have

1012
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: look at this. They had all these Voka bottles I

1013
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: was hiding behind the pogis thousands of more pathetic stuff.

1014
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: What about the toughest opponent. It can be a center

1015
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: that you're marked or just just anyone.

1016
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: I think, let me think on that for a second.

1017
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: We got all day.

1018
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: I know again he's now a teammate of mine, but

1019
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: I remember marking the trail when I was fresh playing

1020
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: Santa and he was at the Roosters. I suppose he's

1021
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: you know, days when he was by far the best

1022
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: center in the world. I remember definitely he was tough

1023
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: because I knew, you know, once he got in a

1024
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: good ball, he's pretty capable. He's capable of doing just

1025
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: about anything. So he was tough. But in recent years

1026
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: mm hmm, so.

1027
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: Mate, Tony, Well, like you're saying on the troll, was

1028
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: that he was the best center at that time in

1029
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: the world, and he's got I said it last week

1030
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: me and Matthew talk did a Rabbi League one and

1031
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: we were talking. I still think he's like in terms

1032
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: of skill set, he's still like one of the best

1033
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: centers in the I know he's playing fullback now, but

1034
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: that when he when he goes onto that left side,

1035
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: everything he's got left foot step, right foot, fan, right fan,

1036
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: and the.

1037
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: Left flick like that's it.

1038
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: It's got every Yeah, yeah.

1039
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: It's I've really seen a guy who's so big and

1040
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: powerful got such subtle touch. It's what stretch you ever?

1041
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever had offers from other.

1042
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: Clubs early on? I have sort of when I was

1043
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: I suppose, just sort of putting a foot in the door.

1044
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: And this was before i'd played first grade. And but

1045
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: I think I always always felt loyal even before i'd

1046
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: played first grade, I felt a loyalty towards House. I

1047
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, they showed a lot of faith

1048
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: in me, and there was something just about growing up

1049
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: in the area that definitely struck a chord with me,

1050
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: and it is bled into you pretty early on through

1051
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: the junior reps. You know, even just that rival rivalry

1052
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: with the roosters that it just makes you want to

1053
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: play for the club. And I remember coming through the

1054
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: system and I just thought, you know, I didn't want

1055
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: to be anywhere else. And you know, since then, you know,

1056
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: when I've resigned, it's it's been pretty early on, and

1057
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: you know, my mind's been pretty set that I didn't

1058
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: want to go anywhere.

1059
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: It's interesting. There's certain sporting teams in the world. Barcelona's

1060
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: motto is more than a club. It represents Catalonian culture

1061
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: and I think that Southard the Bunnies are more than

1062
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: a club. It's just such a symbol of that area.

1063
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: Very hard club to believe.

1064
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about how proud are you.

1065
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: Myrtle to?

1066
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: Okay, if if there was a club, let's say Wayne

1067
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: comes there and he says, Stretch, look, you're no longer

1068
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: one of the club. Is there a club another club

1069
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: in the NRL that.

1070
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: Stretch would take his skill sets to, because he if

1071
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: you're if you're four, you're four. Well, if Wayne got

1072
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 4: what's the other club in the NRL that you're like,

1073
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: you know that you look at and you say, that's

1074
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: a cool club.

1075
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: I think you know one that stands out and it's

1076
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, no real secret is the system down in Melbourne.

1077
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: I think you know, the their ability to take players

1078
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: and really get the best out of them.

1079
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's just stands out every year.

1080
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: You know you get players who maybe won't getting a

1081
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: crack at other clubs. And you know one that springs

1082
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: to mind for me is you know Bronson Garlic was

1083
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: a Souse junior and you know never really got a

1084
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: crack at South I think he played a couple of

1085
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 3: games Cup, but you know he went down there and

1086
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: you know he had a really strong season last year,

1087
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: and you know it's countless other players who do the same.

1088
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: And I honestly, I think I'd like the lifestyle down

1089
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: in Melbourne bit of a change. And yeah, how did

1090
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: you like it down there?

1091
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: I loved it.

1092
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: I love it And like you would have played a

1093
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: lot of like when you're in Australia, a lot of

1094
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: those you know, your monsters, Harry Grant, like the crew

1095
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: down there is it's so close, Like there's so many

1096
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: good lads down there. It's such a good place to

1097
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: go for a drink down at Melbourne. Yeah, good eat

1098
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: like good stuff there, and it's just it's just such

1099
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: a out of the spotlight town, like you're just completely

1100
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: out of the limelighters. All they care about his AFL

1101
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: so all the boys just they walk it wherever they go.

1102
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: No one knows who that which, which sucks for Harry

1103
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: because he loves free stuff.

1104
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it even gets sad on Tyrant wish what

1105
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: he gets up to. Sorry there, I mean thinking that

1106
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: is with Melbourne, they've pretty much got a no dickhead policy.

1107
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: And what I say, pretty much some people sit through

1108
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: the cracks.

1109
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: I've spoken to blokes who have come from Melbourne to

1110
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: South bos like Dean Bruttin Mark Nichols who spent time

1111
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: down there, and they made the point where you go

1112
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: down there and no one, no one's from Melbourne when

1113
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: you know when you go down there, so you don't

1114
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: have those connections to family and friends for your social life.

1115
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: So you know, most of your socializing revolves around the

1116
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: club and the boys at the club, which I quite

1117
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: like that idea.

1118
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stretcher, do you chat with Rusty much?

1119
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: I only get a text on game day?

1120
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1121
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: So every every game day since it sends out a

1122
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: group text just saying what day is it?

1123
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: Russell Crow.

1124
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: To the one to seventeen seventeen?

1125
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you teach band go Friday?

1126
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: What that's is that every and every week no matter

1127
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 2: where on well is Yeah?

1128
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: Well the first time actually the first time I got

1129
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: a message from Russell I was injured and he said, hey, mate,

1130
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 3: how's the injury going? And of course I didn't have

1131
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: his number saved, so I said it's going really mate?

1132
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: Well mate, sorry who is this? And he said it's

1133
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: RC And I said sorry mate, I still don't know.

1134
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Who the Russell.

1135
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 3: Well done, and then he's got on his Russell Crow mate.

1136
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, sorry, Russell, Yeah, the injury's going

1137
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: really well mate. Thanks.

1138
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: Jack was similar that he sent one when Jack played

1139
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: Campra send big long text. Jack was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1140
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: who's this?

1141
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1142
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: It was how Stretch Vegas it must have been. I

1143
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: was thinking of you when we're over there. It must

1144
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: have been surreal for you to go over into the

1145
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: States and see like these fifty minute billboards yourself there. Yeah,

1146
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: it was pretty crazy.

1147
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: I've never been to America before, and obviously flying in

1148
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 3: the Vegas you know, it was an experience in itself.

1149
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: And then I suppose see my mug up on massive

1150
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: billboards and on the sign out the front of Allegiant

1151
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: Stadium was yeah, crazy really, And you know, just the

1152
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: fact that we got the NRL over there and pulled

1153
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 3: it off. I think it's pretty impressive as it is.

1154
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: And then we went on that first trip, you went

1155
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 3: on that connaistance.

1156
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: We ran into each other over there. It was a

1157
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: good night.

1158
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we received some pictures of you two

1159
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: back here from a couple of months together. I want

1160
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 2: to ask you Stretch, because I was over the second time,

1161
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: and Mum was over there as well when Dad went back.

1162
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: What was dad like the first trip before having his

1163
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: family over there?

1164
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: How loose did it get?

1165
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: I can only speak for half a night really, it

1166
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: was about all we all we spent together. But yeah,

1167
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: there was a lot of energy in the room. Drinks

1168
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: were flowing, you know, there was a lot of love

1169
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: in the room. And it was a great night singing,

1170
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: some great conversations, a lot of singing.

1171
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: Sing the power mondays, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I loved your singing.

1172
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: Did you just go to any like you didn't? You

1173
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: and Dad didn't end up, but any like erotic ship

1174
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: clubs or anything?

1175
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: I just want to mount one dog, one bone. Yeah,

1176
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: I know.

1177
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know because you're in Vegas and

1178
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure you weren't doing any

1179
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: disgusting things.

1180
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: Finally, stretch now, Fletchenhindy believe that you are a serial killer.

1181
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: As you know, have you ever thought about killing anyone?

1182
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: Or have you actually first of all, have you killed anyone?

1183
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: That information is confidential. Yeah, it sounds of killing someone.

1184
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: There's a bit of a list, but you know that's

1185
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 3: also confidential.

1186
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: Leave JD alone, how would you do.

1187
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: A thing like I probably shouldn't hear it, but you

1188
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: see those gangster movies where they feed a body to

1189
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: pigs anyway.

1190
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: Disposing of a body or like killing someone disposing.

1191
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because pigs eat right through the bone, do they? Yeah,

1192
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: So that's why they that's why they used.

1193
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: I read I read an interesting thing the other day

1194
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: where like digging a hole right for like remains, and

1195
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: you're ten feet down and then you put it like

1196
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 2: pack it up five to five feet and then five

1197
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: feet down you put a dead animal carcass and then

1198
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: pack that up to the level. So when they bring

1199
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: sniffer dogs down, they smell the animal carcass and they

1200
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: get to the animal carcass, and then they don't like,

1201
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: they don't continge to search underneath.

1202
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Just like your trick the fish in a car.

1203
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah that. I did a prank on one of the

1204
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: boys where I put a dead fish under his front seat,

1205
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: but then I put a dead fish in the back

1206
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: tire splot. So he found the day after. Oh, very funny.

1207
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: Guys found the fish. But then and then for the

1208
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: couple days after, he said it must just be still

1209
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: smelling from that, but then after a week it's still

1210
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: get worse and by that time the fish is rotten.

1211
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: It's very similar.

1212
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: It is cohole Sandalians gave me a good idea actually

1213
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: to extract the juice of a fish, of like a

1214
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: raw fish. And he said he used to squirt it

1215
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: down his friend's window slot. So like what you put

1216
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: the window down and you stood it down there because

1217
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 2: they can never get it out.

1218
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: What did Johnny Brown say about that?

1219
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't know.

1220
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: I had I had a thing. I had a surri

1221
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: killer once. It was keep some message through the filthy

1222
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: on me over my lap. Because he when he was

1223
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: in Supermax, they just played the Grill team loud. Anyway,

1224
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: he just hated it. He said that he found my

1225
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: jokes because I did a character call. Anyway, he was

1226
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: Ivan's roommate anyway, He's the bloke who ran one of

1227
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: the screws that super Mac said that when when our

1228
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: show would come on, he'd scream, turn it on, it's distasteful.

1229
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: There was so when he died. When Stride and Ivan

1230
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: finally died, I must say it was a weight off

1231
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: my shoulders. I still lay there and I think what

1232
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: about if he gets or heavy escapes.

1233
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wouldn't venture down his ways.

1234
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: Down there, but I'll seek it if he came up

1235
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: my way, but.

1236
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: He wouldn't come in, he wouldn't down here. We've we

1237
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: always finished with a little bit of a menu of questions,

1238
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: just rapid fire at you.

1239
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: So here we go.

1240
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: If you could be one athlete in the world, who

1241
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: would you be?

1242
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: Conor McGregor.

1243
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: You're UFC fan, b UFC fan.

1244
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: What's what's he doing with the ma mcconnor? Has you

1245
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: bet to fighting?

1246
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: He's got a fight coming up against Michael Chandler.

1247
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: He's really lost his way, hasn't.

1248
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: He has he has? He's really gone off the rail.

1249
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: Have you seen him in the roadhouse. That's a really

1250
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: example how he lost his way. Jake him and Jake Gildenhall.

1251
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: It's a bludger compared to the original one with and

1252
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth, it's a it's a blod.

1253
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: It's like he didn't even read the script. It's like

1254
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: they didn't give him a script. It's like they just said,

1255
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: just be kind of what about if you could be

1256
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 2: one artist in.

1257
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: The world, one artist in the world.

1258
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: Your favorite music artist.

1259
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been Rod Stewart until you told that, yeah,

1260
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: just before.

1261
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: But I think.

1262
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: I think in terms of i'd probably do like a

1263
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: DJ type vibe. Fish is not my favorite artist, but

1264
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: I think the lifestyle that comes of it, oh yeah,

1265
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: it would be unreal. So I'd probably say Fisher.

1266
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lives a good life.

1267
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: Fish. Yeah, they talk, they get it. Eastern Europe. Yeah,

1268
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: saw Fisher and Jimmy Trumper did Hungary, something like eighty

1269
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: thousand people there.

1270
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what would appeal me. Appeal to

1271
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: me the most. Biding the euro summer and just you know,

1272
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 3: spending the whole summer in Europe.

1273
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: And the good thing is you just playing other people's music.

1274
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, just pressed and play.

1275
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and everybody listens to it, like every single country.

1276
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: They travel more than any artist.

1277
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.

1278
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: They do festivals and things like that. Well, shout out

1279
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: to Fisher if he's listening.

1280
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: Anthimmy Trumpet, Yeah, Hey, what about your favorite movie of

1281
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: all time?

1282
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: Because you are a notorious for quoting movie lines.

1283
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do enjoy movies. My favorite I like

1284
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: Django Unchained. That's a great movie. So I like a

1285
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: lot of Quentin Tarantino stuff, but that would be a

1286
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: number one.

1287
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Are they amazing? Look Tarantino movies. I was talked to

1288
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: somebody about this the other day. They're always when you

1289
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: think of the greatest opening twenty minutes in film history,

1290
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: I reckon most of them. Tarantino movies. Yeah, all Django, Start,

1291
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: Honey Bunny and Pulp Fiction Inglorious Bastards is chilling the opening.

1292
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: What is your favorite movie line, by the way, Oh,

1293
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to mind, stretch it's the first thing.

1294
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: The ones that come to mind always are comedic ones.

1295
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: So I quite a lot of the alent from the Hangover.

1296
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: So when he's talking to stew in Hangover three when

1297
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: they you know they're looking for dog and he says,

1298
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 3: you just don't get it.

1299
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: I have over sixty apps.

1300
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: Do you know any man hours it would take to

1301
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: download these apps?

1302
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 3: That's only great scenes.

1303
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: Have you got a.

1304
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Speaker 2: Favorite song one that you listen to maybe before the

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01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: before a big game.

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01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite song is Kendrick Lama Money Trees.

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01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's been around for a while.

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah it has. Yeah.

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01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: I love your rap? Are you into your rap?

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Raps probably my number one.

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01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: Dad loves dad doesn't give off the vibe beaties.

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01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: I love eighties rap, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.

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01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: Curtis blow all those guys.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell him, tell him about the street beaters.

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Speaker 1: I know that wasn't that wasn't wrap. It was a

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: break dancing in the early eighties. I had to break

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01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: dancing crew up and street beaters. Yeah, we beat used

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: to beat everyone in in break dancing. So it would

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01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: carry me, mates carry Liner around and we went to

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01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: Target and bought these vests like Michael Jackson the Thriller,

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01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: like the red Vest. And we used to walk around

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: the streets. And if you come across another breakdancing crew,

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: you're challenging to break dancing. How awesome?

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: What an what a what an uncool thing to do

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01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: back in the day.

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: Well, let's see you. Well that's the other thing, the

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Speaker 1: rock Steady Crew, that was my favorite breakdancing crew. Yeah,

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: well cool, Hey you the hey you the rock Steady Crew. Yeah,

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01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: very cool. You do make a break, make a move.

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01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: Okay, this one's.

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01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: How weird.

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: Imagine seeing Maddie John's now walking through Sydney just try

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01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: attempting to grab kids.

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, how weird?

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: Okay, what about it? Would you rather? Would you rather

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01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: be dumped in the middle of the desert or dropped

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01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: in the middle of the ocean?

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01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: See of the desert.

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01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: I backed myself to find some sort of tree, you

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: preserve my own long enough to find a landmark in

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01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: the distance that I could get to, maybe a mountain range,

1344
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: you know, climb up that, and then you know I

1345
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: could go from there.

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01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: You really thought this out with the water diviner?

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: Was the water diviner?

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? The people have people in droughts and areas and

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01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: a lot of rain and they walk along their court

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: water diviners. They walk around this chick can get engaged

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: where the water is.

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01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: That's weird.

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: Favorite holiday ever been on stretch.

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01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I thought the tour the Kangaroo was awesome.

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: I did a little bit of travel after that. I

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01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 3: went to Ampsteam with a few of the boys. That

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 3: was awesome. Yeah, that was great.

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: What did you do there?

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01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun there. A bit of

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01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 3: a blur, but yeah, it was good. Red lights just

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: a bit of red light action.

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: Red means stop, yes, it does. Green means go ye,

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01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: speed up, will slow down. I think it is. I'm

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: pretty sure that's what it is.

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, don't yellows gives you a certain amount of time?

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: Is that your kidding? Aren't you how long you had

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: a license for? And you don't know what the yellow means?

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: No? No, no, it's speed up or slow down. That's what

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: it is.

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01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: It means slow down. I don't think it means speed up. No.

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: No, but oh yeah, maybe you're right. I thought it

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: means if you're like a yeah, I'm pretty sure. Anyway, Hey,

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01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on. Unless Matthew, you have anything else for.

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: Stretch Stretch You're you're a champion mate Stretch Armstrong say this?

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: Can you YouTube? Blokes are both the longest fingers I've

1377
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: ever seen.

1378
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: Look at these things.

1379
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: Would I give to have hands like that?

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: Hey, lucky girls, have a look.

1381
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: At these claws on your stretch seers.

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: Guys, thank you, And.

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01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: There he goes into the distance, Go Stretch Stretch Armstrong

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01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: Campbell Graham, Mate, what were you doing? What was your

1385
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: full process with putting that South Polo on? Do you

1386
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: think that would impress.

1387
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: I was just groveling, you know, like mate, it's just

1388
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: soften him up for the big hard questions. Yeah, I

1389
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: took it off Jack was sort of death stirm. It's

1390
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: Jack's shirt from his days at South. So as soon

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: as Campbell went out, he said, run it and make

1392
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: get my shirt off. What an outstanding guy.

1393
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really impressive.

1394
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: I like I like Campbell.

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01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: I love him as a player as well, Like we're

1396
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: actually the same age, but I've I love watching him

1397
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: play as a player. Just a real good, strong defensive

1398
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: center and always consistent for that side, on that right edge.

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01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: So and just a great chat. Good to see get

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: a bit of his insights on what is actually going

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: on at South at the moment and what they've been

1402
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: thinking about Wayne.

1403
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: Did you already feel Wayne? What the difference Wayne's going

1404
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: to make? You know? It was interesting listen to Wayne

1405
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: the other day. Wayne's pretty under usually keeps his cards

1406
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: very much close to his chest, but he came out.

1407
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: What did he What did he say? I'm trying to

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01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: think what he said the other day, and there's five

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01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: words here. It is he said, they said why South?

1410
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: And he said I have unfinished business, which means a

1411
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: premiership of course. So for Wayne to come out and

1412
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: say that, mate, he obviously thinks he can get in

1413
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: there and turn things around. Immediately before, just before we

1414
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: wrap it up.

1415
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: It's been a good chat. But I want to ask

1416
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: you just a question as a rugby league analyst and expert.

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: Is South season done now? For this season? Are they

1418
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: already looking to next season to move on?

1419
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: Like?

1420
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: Is this year a right off for them now?

1421
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: I think it is coops. I I can't see them

1422
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: going on this huge winning run. Which going to Which

1423
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: are they going to need to get themselves into the finals.

1424
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: If the miracle happens and they just go on this

1425
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: twelve to thirty game winning run, then even if they

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: get there, they have spent their pennies. But I'll be

1427
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think they're I think they're I'll

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: be giving them thirty to onond to me to be

1429
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: able to make the finals from here. The other thing

1430
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: we'll thempinge on them on top of that is the

1431
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: fact that they may lose Cody, they may lose Latrell

1432
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: during the Origine series and different Cam Murray. Of course,

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01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: they've just got a lot of injuries. They've got a

1434
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: lot of injuries that have had a lot going on.

1435
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: I think that for the rest of this season they'll

1436
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: work on some combinations. I think Wayne will be on

1437
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: the blur a little bit of Benny Hornby saying I

1438
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: want to do a little bit of this, a little

1439
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: bit of that, experimenting, and we'll see how they go.

1440
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: But you know the big job Wayne's got when he

1441
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: arrives Coope between now and the start next season, Wayneben Wayne,

1442
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: He'll be working behind the scenes hard. They've got to

1443
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: turn over some of this roster. Now. There's not a

1444
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: lot of really top quality players on the market, so

1445
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: South is going to have to be very clever here.

1446
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: Sous will be looking at some other clubs and probably

1447
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: trying to entice some guys. Well they're not allowed to

1448
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: entice out of their contracts, but they will be looking

1449
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: for opportunity. It is for top line players to strike

1450
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: a deal with those other clubs.

1451
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: They've said, Locky Eliz can negotiate with other clubs. I

1452
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: know that who is give the fans a bit of hope.

1453
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: Who will Wayne Bennett try to target as they're half

1454
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:13,839
Speaker 2: back for next season.

1455
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: You've put me straight on the spot there, I know.

1456
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: I look, as I said in recording this, we're about

1457
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: you know we're tonight it is we got to South

1458
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: versus paramatter. I guarantee you this. This is a guarantee,

1459
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: And when this comes in on Monday, I can either

1460
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: look like a genius or an idiot, because most time

1461
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: I look like an idiot. There will be a huge

1462
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: turnaround in South Sydney. So how are going to be

1463
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: right up on their toes because guess what they're playing

1464
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: for Wayne now? And Wayne knows he's going to turn

1465
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: over some of the roster and those individuals don't want

1466
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: to don't want it to be them.

1467
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, my little tip. Somebody who

1468
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: I think would fit in really well to their system,

1469
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,440
Speaker 2: playing off the cuff with a lot of those players.

1470
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: Sam Walker, of course Horse and wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't Souse

1471
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 2: love that? Pinch him off, Uncle Nick?

1472
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: When does you have contract se him? He still a

1473
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: little bit of time.

1474
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's soon. It's really soon because there's

1475
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: been talking of it.

1476
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: So I reckon the Broncos are going for Sam to Tay.

1477
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: Got a bit of fight on the hands the roosters,

1478
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: but they'll manage okay, they'll be okay.

1479
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: Thank you, Matthew

1480
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: H