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Speaker 1: Five double a nice with Matthew Pantalas.

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Speaker 2: Got to release today and somebody mentioned this to me

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Speaker 2: last week. I think might have even been on air,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, I haven't heard about this. But this

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Speaker 2: is from Tom Venning, who is the member for Gray,

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Speaker 2: which takes in the top half of our state, essentially

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Speaker 2: across the Port Augusta sort of the peninsulas and then

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Speaker 2: up and it says the Albanezy government should immediately abandon

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Speaker 2: plans to lower regional speed limits down to seventy kilometers

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Speaker 2: an hour on both sealed and unsealed roads. Surely this

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Speaker 2: is not being thought and it will take you forever

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Speaker 2: to drive anywhere. Seventy k's that's unreal. Tom Venning is

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Speaker 2: the member for Gray and he is on the line.

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Speaker 2: Tom good evening, Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 1: Matthew, growth with you. And I just want to say

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Speaker 1: a correction. It's actually ninety two percent of the state.

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Speaker 2: I'm up here, up here in Marla at the moment

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Speaker 2: end of the state. Is your electorate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. That's so rual from two wells north

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Speaker 1: east and west.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, incredible, So seventy kates, how long would it

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Speaker 2: take you to get around that ninety two percent of

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Speaker 2: South Australia.

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Speaker 1: Well a long time and you know, in this role

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Speaker 1: you drive about one hundred thousand kilometers a year and

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Speaker 1: say it would make my time on the road even

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Speaker 1: more And it's actually ridiculous. Mat You know, we want

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Speaker 1: we want, we want safer roads, not slower roads. And

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Speaker 1: so so the government to be considering this, it's essentially

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Speaker 1: a cop out to say we recognize we have invested

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Speaker 1: in our regional roads, they are unsafe. So rather than

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Speaker 1: investing our roads and making them safe, making them car worthy,

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Speaker 1: rather than that will just reduce the speeds in it?

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Speaker 2: Is this a federal government initiative because wouldn't this be

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Speaker 2: up to the states to regulate how fast we go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good question. It would be a federal government in

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Speaker 1: which would be rolled out across the entire country.

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Speaker 2: Really, so on what basis on just reducing the road tiel?

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Speaker 2: Is that the thinking? Because as you'd be aware here

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Speaker 2: in South Australia, the RAA just the other day says

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Speaker 2: our road funding is in deficit. We've got two billion

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Speaker 2: dollars worth of work to do and we're not putting

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Speaker 2: a quarter of that in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. This sort of started off the basis

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Speaker 1: of the fact that our roads are becoming unsafe and

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Speaker 1: the death tilwin regional roads are increasing, So an inquiry

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Speaker 1: has begun. And so there were two benefits that have

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Speaker 1: come from this idea of reducing unsigned roads. So these

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Speaker 1: are unsealed roads, but it was for some of the

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Speaker 1: bitchman roads that don't have a scientist seven yilometers, one

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Speaker 1: to make the road safeer, but two to lower the

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Speaker 1: carbon missions. And you know, this is just unacceptable for

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Speaker 1: marcustituents in my electrics. This will absolutely this is utterly

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Speaker 1: dropping like a lead balloon bet And so inquiry is

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Speaker 1: open at the moment, and I encourage everyone tog a line,

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Speaker 1: put in a submission and oppose this this idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this wouldn't be key roads like the Sturt

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Speaker 2: Highway for instance, or trying to remember the name of

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Speaker 2: the one that heads out to Sojuna that road. It

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be those roads their highway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Though, it's every single road that doesn't have a road sign.

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Speaker 1: So if you're if you're a if you're in a

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Speaker 1: country town and you leave the country town and you

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Speaker 1: go onto a dirt road there often isn't a speed sign.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that road.

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Speaker 1: Is by the to one hundred kilometers, that would become

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Speaker 1: seventy kilometers. But if not just on sealed roads, there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of sealed roads too that don't have speed limits,

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Speaker 1: and that would also be seventy.

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Speaker 2: Kilometers prewer, goodness me all right, And again, look, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate the safety aspect of it. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: an argument against that. But of course you go slower,

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Speaker 2: the risk of fatalities are reduced, but that shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: given the fact we used to have one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ten on on all state roads. Many within what one

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Speaker 2: hundred k's of the city are now one hundred kilometers

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Speaker 2: an hour. Fine, but reducing it further down to seventy

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Speaker 2: I mean, how long before we've got a bloke with

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Speaker 2: a red flag running out the front underneath scooter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And maybe this is this is an

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Speaker 1: admission from the federal government that they have not invested

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Speaker 1: it's an admission of that. And so this is why

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Speaker 1: we need we need to work part on this. We

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Speaker 1: do not want slower roads we want safe a room.

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Speaker 1: The amount of investment that has been lacking outside of

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Speaker 1: outside of our capital city has really dropped off a

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Speaker 1: Talk to anyone that lives outside of what I call

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Speaker 1: Greater Adelaide and ask me if they think the road

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Speaker 1: quality is good in their area. That will also No,

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Speaker 1: they are getting worse. They are unsafe, and we need

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Speaker 1: to invest in our roads, not make them slower.

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Speaker 2: Plenty of examples. I mean, one road that needs a

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Speaker 2: redo for much of its length is the Horric's Highway,

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Speaker 2: which I imagine past two wells that falls into your

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Speaker 2: electric presumably and that's just a dreadful road on the

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Speaker 2: drive up to clear it for most of it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, and we need to bring in what

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Speaker 1: I want to. I want to I call it performance

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Speaker 1: based contracts. We are building, and we are building roads

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Speaker 1: that they're not staring in the test of time under

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Speaker 1: the Highways Departments in the set of the eighties and nineties.

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Speaker 1: The roads that we built then are holding up better

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Speaker 1: than the roads were built today. If you drive the

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Speaker 1: Highway one between lock Hill and Port Wakefield, this road

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Speaker 1: was just open. It was duplicated and already it is crumbling.

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Speaker 1: And it's just we're spending so much money on these

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Speaker 1: roads and they're doing a terrible job. So performance based contract.

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Speaker 1: Let's that's a million bucks a kilometer. Well what's going contract?

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Speaker 1: You know the McMahon's or the other roadbuilders, and I've

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Speaker 1: played them nine hundred grand up front, and then after

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Speaker 1: ten years, if the road has maintained standards A, B

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Speaker 1: and C, we give them a performance payment of one

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Speaker 1: hundred grand, two hundred grand whatever it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about roads of the eighties and nineties

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Speaker 2: standing up better. I mean roads the Romans built two

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Speaker 2: thousand years ago are standing up better than the roads

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Speaker 2: built today. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It's not rocket science at all.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Brenon has called in on the issue of fatigue. If

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Speaker 2: it's a slower drive, good ay, Brenton. Brendan, Sorry, you

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Speaker 2: know some of.

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Speaker 3: Those roads are not short roads. If you're driving for

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Speaker 3: at a lower speed, you're driving for longer. Wouldn't that

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Speaker 3: also increased driver fatigue?

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Speaker 2: I would expect so, and Tom you'd probably vouch for

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Speaker 2: that with your hundred thousand a year.

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Speaker 1: It's a very good point, you know, if you're going

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Speaker 1: from a hunt, you're going seventy rather than thirty. That's

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Speaker 1: thirty percent, flower, and it's going to take you thirty for

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Speaker 1: longer to get to your nst destination. And they suggest that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you take a break every two hours. Well

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Speaker 1: that's more breaks and that's the longest trick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely no, Brendan.

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Speaker 3: Good time mode also increased the cost of freight.

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Speaker 1: If they use those roads yet you know, more wages

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Speaker 1: of course, absolutely good point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you mate, Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 2: That's some very good points. And okay, so at the

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Speaker 2: moment it's under consideration, this is before a committee. You reckon, Tom,

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Speaker 2: And I mean seriously, they wouldn't they wouldn't accept this sittle.

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Speaker 2: It would go down, and not just in the rural

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Speaker 2: areas right across the nation. I suspect as a lead balloon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. As soon as people are hearing about it,

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Speaker 1: they're riding into me saying mister ridiculous. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to help go onto infrastructure or governor, are you

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Speaker 1: put in a submission and oppose this this suggested legislation.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tom, appreciate your time. Thank you, Tom Venning

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Speaker 2: who's the federal member for the seed of Gray up

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Speaker 2: in the north part of South Australia, ninety two percent

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Speaker 2: of the state. In fact, it's unreal, isn't it