WEBVTT - Foxes and Ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>Approache Production, Episode one, Foxes and Ghosts. What do You

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Now? As a teenager, I'd love nothing more than

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with my mates on the weekend, and as

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<v Speaker 1>daytime to night, we'd do our best to scare the

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<v Speaker 1>crap out of each other. We'd watch scary movies I

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<v Speaker 1>See Dead People. We'd prank each other by hiding under

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<v Speaker 1>the beds and around corners, and we'd try and tell

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of spooky stories. Most of the time, these

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<v Speaker 1>stories were fake. They were designed to scare each other.

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<v Speaker 1>As we got older, we stopped telling these fake spooky stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and we probably stopped watching those scary movies too. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was always a few of those stories that weren't

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<v Speaker 1>made up. Well, at least they didn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>made up. They sounded real because they actually happened. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be explained. And that's why we created this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because I've got one of those very stories, a

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<v Speaker 1>story that for years I've told at parties over dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and have even told it to my own teenage kids

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to scare them.

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<v Speaker 2>The next thing, the cats up in the air and

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<v Speaker 2>out through the bloody curtains. This half is evil.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is, it is an evil out the clothesline.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got no idea, mate.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like a helicoptersagan off.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll get spinning, spinning, spinning down that far.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I've told my story, someone else jumps in with

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<v Speaker 1>their own story, a story that also gives me the chills.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what this show is all about. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear your stories and want to help you tell

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<v Speaker 1>them to the world. If you've got a story and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to share it on this podcast, get in

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<v Speaker 1>touch on Instagram or TikTok at the Chills Pod pod pod.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's start my story. Actually, it's not just my story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the story of my dad and my mum, his

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<v Speaker 1>brother and sister in law, and my own two brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in nineteen seventy nine. I lived in a

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<v Speaker 1>small seaside country town called Lancelom. It's in Western Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>about nineteen minutes from Perth. My dad was a fisherman.

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<v Speaker 1>Like his dad and his brother, he wasn't the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bloke that listens to ghost stories. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>true blue Aussie bloke and that's how I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two brothers, one two years younger and one

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<v Speaker 1>three years older. I was the middle child, and in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine, I was just nine years old. We

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<v Speaker 1>lived across a lot of different houses in my nine

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<v Speaker 1>years in this little town, but the one we were

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<v Speaker 1>living in nineteen seventy nine was the love last house

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<v Speaker 1>we ever lived in in that small town. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers thinks that that house is the reason we

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<v Speaker 1>moved and that a lot of bad things happened after

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in that house. But before I get into

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, let me explain the house. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>three bedroom small house. Me and my brothers slept in

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<v Speaker 1>the same room. My older brother had his own single bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and me and my younger brother slept in bunk beds.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the choice of the top or bottom bunk

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<v Speaker 1>because I was the older of the two of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I chose the top. I've only got

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<v Speaker 1>a few memories of this house. There's the story I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to tell you, and one other key memory. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>this house was surrounded by bushland. It was just off

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<v Speaker 1>the main road into Lanceln, and it was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>new house. It had only been built a few years before.

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<v Speaker 1>It was by far one of the nicest houses I'd

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<v Speaker 1>lived in as a kid. What made this place special

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<v Speaker 1>was it just out of the back door, which was

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the kitchen was our backyard. There were no fences,

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<v Speaker 1>just an old clothes line. The famous Australian hills hoist

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<v Speaker 1>Larnce Hill, an innovator of practical solutions, saw the market

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<v Speaker 1>for a revolutionary new rotary clothes line together with his

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<v Speaker 1>brother in law. It was the round one that if

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<v Speaker 1>d wasn't watching, we might swing on like a merry

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<v Speaker 1>go round during the day because we had no fences

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<v Speaker 1>and we backed onto bushland. One night when we first

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<v Speaker 1>moved in, we went out of the back door from

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen to put the rubbish in the trash and

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<v Speaker 1>we saw a fox going through our bin. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it away, but foxes loved food, and we soon

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<v Speaker 1>learned that each night this one fox would come back

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<v Speaker 1>to the back of our house looking for food. Me

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<v Speaker 1>and my brothers started making it a regular thing. After dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>we would take our leftovers out the back door in

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<v Speaker 1>a bowl and leave it for the fox, and then,

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<v Speaker 1>like clockwork, the fox would come to the bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>eat our scraps. We love this nightly ritual. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>and Mum not so much. I think they thought we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't eating all of our dinner just so we could

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<v Speaker 1>feed the fox, and they were probably right. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't seem like that's spooky so far, but that

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<v Speaker 1>fox and that back door will be very important in

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<v Speaker 1>this story. I saw. So important about this story is

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<v Speaker 1>why what happened happened, and to tell that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the story. I wanted to chat to my dad. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he's told me this story in passing, but not in

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<v Speaker 1>the detail that he went into when I called him

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<v Speaker 1>one Sunday afternoon to see how he was doing. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call my dad and see what he remembers.

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<v Speaker 1>Great ghost story is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we went to our another place up there one night,

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<v Speaker 2>Ronda rub and she said come around. We'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>say once, and we're living in Livery and courts. The

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<v Speaker 2>new kids were living there too, and that said man, Mum,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, don't drink, be sober when you come. So

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<v Speaker 2>we laid up the grog old day old day and

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<v Speaker 2>night we went around there so anyway we out come

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<v Speaker 2>the Widgi board. So that was good. So Ron and

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<v Speaker 2>knew how to do it, and the candles were going

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<v Speaker 2>on that, so put down and she said, call back someone,

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<v Speaker 2>and I called back Joe Hubbard, felt it out, Joe Hubbard.

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<v Speaker 2>The next thing, she had cats and they were sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in the window, still at the house. The next thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the cat up in the air and out through the

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<v Speaker 2>bloody curtains. All the curtains started going mate, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was it. And I spoke to someone else about it, said,

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<v Speaker 2>we then make look, don't get into it, don't even

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<v Speaker 2>go near it. At its back, he's calling something back

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<v Speaker 2>that we shouldn't do, you know what I mean? I thought, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my godfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So mum and dad had a seance, wijiboard and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. They would have been in their mid twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>and for them it was just a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But it didn't turn out like that. And what happened

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<v Speaker 1>next gave me and still gives me the chills. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a Friday night, a school week had finished and

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<v Speaker 1>Dad was home for the weekend from his overnights out

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<v Speaker 1>at sea fishing for crayfish. We had our nightly ritual dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Then after dinner we grabbed our leftovers and took it

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<v Speaker 1>out in the back door for the fox. The fox

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<v Speaker 1>came and ate and we left, and then me and

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<v Speaker 1>my two brothers came inside for our showers before we

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<v Speaker 1>watched some Telly and went to bed. At about eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty that Friday night, we were ushered off to bed

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<v Speaker 1>while Mum and Dad cleaned up and had a beer

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<v Speaker 1>and a chat in the kitchen. There was nothing really

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<v Speaker 1>significant about that night. My brothers and I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea that a few nights before, Mum and Dad had

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<v Speaker 1>called on the spirit of a departed friend at a seance.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I remember next was my dad waking us

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<v Speaker 1>three boys up angry. It was just after midnight that

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<v Speaker 1>same night. From memory, he was saying, who's been out

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<v Speaker 1>the back door to feed the fox? After Mum and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to bed, us boys were all sound asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>so when Dad came in, he scared the life out

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<v Speaker 1>of us, and to be honest, we didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell he was on about. He said that the

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<v Speaker 1>back door was wide open and one of us must

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<v Speaker 1>have done it. We promised him we hadn't, and he

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<v Speaker 1>turned off our lights with a grumble, then re locked

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<v Speaker 1>the back door and Dad went back to bed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much longer it was, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>long enough for all of us three boys to be

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<v Speaker 1>asleep again when Dad came storming in the room. This

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<v Speaker 1>time he was even angrier. Which one of you, little

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<v Speaker 1>so and sos has been outside? Now? I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the language used at the time was far more

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<v Speaker 1>colorful than what I just used. Then he accused us

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<v Speaker 1>of going outside, opening the back door and leaving it

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<v Speaker 1>wide open. We promised, under the threat of a smack,

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<v Speaker 1>that neither of us went outside. He said that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>my older brother had slept walk and we said he hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dad was angry, and something told me at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that he had some idea of what was happening,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't want to admit it. Again, Dad locked

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<v Speaker 1>the back door, turned off our light, closed our door,

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<v Speaker 1>and went back to bed. We all stayed asleep until

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. I can't remember which one of us boys

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<v Speaker 1>woke up first that Saturday morning, but I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was always a race to get the best spot in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the TV for Saturday morning cartoons, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably me. As I walked out of our bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>into the kitchen, I stopped in disbelief the back door

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<v Speaker 1>that my dad had locked twice the night before, was

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<v Speaker 1>wide open. There in the middle of the kitchen. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single pot and pant we owned was taken out of

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<v Speaker 1>the cupboard and arranged in a circle in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of circle that you would create if you

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<v Speaker 1>were using a widgiboard. We were shit scared. We ran

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<v Speaker 1>into Mum and Dad's room crying. Dad came out and

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<v Speaker 1>saw and we expected that we were about to get

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<v Speaker 1>into massive trouble. But that's not what happened. Dad calmly

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed us and if you close, and drove us to

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<v Speaker 1>a nana's house just around the corner. He said we

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<v Speaker 1>could stay for the weekend and he left.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, mat brig Nanna knew about it, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if I told her, and I told the old man,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, what was going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah? You know, Pal, I said, No, I wasn't Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have a drink, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I thought the story ended, except, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>until I spoke to Dad and asked him what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>What about the what about the saucepans in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember going into the kitchen and the yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My yeah, all of them started right on the hid.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I've only got Michelle who he was in

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<v Speaker 2>the seances and all that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And he come around and he done some and there's

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<v Speaker 3>some that he said, what is what it is? You've

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<v Speaker 3>got something evil in the house and sending it up

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<v Speaker 3>this half is evil?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is, it is an evil half shure. What

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<v Speaker 2>can you know, Michelle say?

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<v Speaker 3>He said these prayers and all that, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>that never happened again.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it was something there evil in the home.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone had died there and was coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. All the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, oh I cry, but you know, all the

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<v Speaker 3>sources and ship. It was just freaked out the whole joint,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't stay in that house so much longer, So we.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't stay there long after that. I think we moved in.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've got it. Went to the greenhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>My older brother thinks that there was some bad Jew

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<v Speaker 1>in that house and he explained it to me.

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<v Speaker 4>That house, that house is where so many things went wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>like wanted things like the fox and all that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of ship, the doors and all that ship would be open.

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<v Speaker 4>I think sometimes, yeah, you know, unexplained beat Wine Grandpa,

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<v Speaker 4>but we were sick. He had to meet earth. Uncle

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<v Speaker 4>Dars went missing that same year, seven or nine, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's my last year at the primary school in eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>We moved in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was true. In nineteen seventy nine my mum's brother

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<v Speaker 1>went missing on a road roller in Western Australia and

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<v Speaker 1>it's never been found again. Franken Dolly Carr.

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<v Speaker 3>I still read the last letter they received and their

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two year old son Dez just before he disappeared

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<v Speaker 3>with our trades from the main roads work gang on

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Northern Highway south of Brooms. Eighteen months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>My granddad got sick with cancer and had to move

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<v Speaker 1>to Perth for treatment. He died a year later, and

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<v Speaker 1>my brother also had his own issues.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not so many things happened there. It's not only that,

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<v Speaker 4>but the night before the sports carnival we were doing,

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<v Speaker 4>we were back in long jump and all that ship

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<v Speaker 4>knock up on my foot open.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I didn't have the heart to tell my brother

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe the ghost wasn't to blame for his cut foot,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it was just glass. I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know why was Dad so angry the first time he

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<v Speaker 1>came into our room that night. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>just because that he thought we'd open the back door.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't that at all. It was what happened

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<v Speaker 1>that night, just after us boys had gone to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>while Mom and Dad were sitting in the kitchen clearing

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<v Speaker 1>up and having a beer.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, well, we're in all inside, and the next thing,

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<v Speaker 3>the bloody clothesline out in the back of one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them ropery hoy, no bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>Started, no shit, mate, and started spinning like buggery, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, just like a helicopter was. And

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<v Speaker 3>there was no wind, no nothing, no nothing. So then

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<v Speaker 3>something else freaky happened there with all the sheets on

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<v Speaker 3>the bloody line and that were gone for the clothesline.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got no idea, mate, It was like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Helicopter biking, not it would just spinning, spinning, spinning down

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<v Speaker 3>that far.

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<v Speaker 2>It all started that they went to the seance.

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<v Speaker 5>At the other at another house, and all this stuff

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<v Speaker 5>started happening not long after that, not like the same night,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was, you know, like a week after that

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<v Speaker 5>that they went to the sales, and then things started happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad news, mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you don't and you don't believe in any of

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of shit normally Not normally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but I do now. Might believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, you know, if you've got a story that

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