Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production Welcome.
Speaker 2: Basically another episode about I a Bad Mom podcast.
Speaker 1: I think about when we are recording He's Katie, and
Speaker 1: I think about like the videos that might because they
Speaker 1: don't always come out of these episodes. These are just
Speaker 1: like when our producer deos Oh Rachel looks like, you're crazy,
Speaker 1: let's put that one up kind of thing. I think
Speaker 1: about the fact that I've always got a coffee cup
Speaker 1: in front of me. You never have anything, nothing's ever
Speaker 1: in front of you, So people are going to start
Speaker 1: to think, is this coffee or is it?
Speaker 2: Well no, because you know the reason that people know
Speaker 2: that that isn't rocker is because I would also have one.
Speaker 1: Am I a bad mum for dragging the kids across
Speaker 1: the world. Oh?
Speaker 2: This is an interesting one because there are two completely
Speaker 2: different spins on this. This could be a really positive
Speaker 2: thing or this could be an absolute fucking disaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And we're just simply joking parenting because if
Speaker 1: this was just a personal challenge of just me, I'm
Speaker 1: in I'm all over it. Yeah, but then you've got
Speaker 1: two little people, You're like, oh, there's gonna be like
Speaker 1: you already know there might be a little obstacle or
Speaker 1: two a long way.
Speaker 2: So anyone that doesn't know Rachel's husband Sam is currently
Speaker 2: on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here, which
Speaker 2: is like super exciting. I think I'm more excited than
Speaker 2: you are about this whole thing. And so I've always
Speaker 2: watched like it's like the one reality TV show that
Speaker 2: I do love watching.
Speaker 1: You're like more of a maths kind of you know
Speaker 1: that drama. You know, I'm way behind on that just
Speaker 1: for the record, so got a lot to catch up on.
Speaker 1: But you have kept me Katie on the role of
Speaker 1: excitement and direction with armaslab Get Me out of Here
Speaker 1: because you've always watched it.
Speaker 2: I've always watched it, and so because you've never seen
Speaker 2: it before until your husband was on it, and I
Speaker 2: remember saying to you, you'll go to Africa. They'll fly
Speaker 2: you out to Africa. On previous years, the top three
Speaker 2: their families come into the jungle and it's like this
Speaker 2: big reveal that the kids right.
Speaker 1: So then they're finally crying. I'm emotional, Like I cry.
Speaker 2: I don't even know these people, So imagine when you
Speaker 2: turn up, likely I'll film it. But I was letting
Speaker 2: you know that might be what's happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was just laughing, going absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2: And so what has ended up happening is Sammy is
Speaker 2: one of the final ones and you are going to
Speaker 2: Africa tonight, but you're only told today that you will
Speaker 2: be flying tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I remember saying to you, this is so exciting.
Speaker 2: You know what a bucket list thing. African safari, Like,
Speaker 2: that's a dream, right. I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: would love to do that. However, I do understand your
Speaker 2: anxiety around It's.
Speaker 1: Like it's a grip today trip. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: being this is way in my head because obviously we've
Speaker 1: spoken about it before. I was in a previous life
Speaker 1: a flight attendant for three years and I flew internationally.
Speaker 1: So that's why I say this challenge for me, I
Speaker 1: could back in thirty minutes and still be well and
Speaker 1: truly on my way and be all over it. The
Speaker 1: idea of doing a layover round trip to South Africa
Speaker 1: with two children in tow. I don't want to sound
Speaker 1: like an obnoxious twat because it's a free trip to
Speaker 1: South Africa, right, but you're technically going for a layover
Speaker 1: in South Africa, but just doing it with two kids,
Speaker 1: you're like, they don't get the same concept of us
Speaker 1: of going, Okay, I need to sleep for like five
Speaker 1: hours and then my body will feel a little bit
Speaker 1: better and then like I'll hang out until bedtime. And
Speaker 1: then you don't even have that on a layover, you've
Speaker 1: sort of just got to juggle.
Speaker 2: I think anyone that's done a long haul flight with
Speaker 2: kids in economy completely understands, Like, let's not take away
Speaker 2: from the fact.
Speaker 1: That you're grateful, right, grateful to go and.
Speaker 2: You're grateful for the whole you know, experience and all
Speaker 2: the rest of it. But I totally get and especially
Speaker 2: with it being last minute, like I don't cope less
Speaker 2: than twenty four hour planning. So you've got to sort
Speaker 2: out someone to be in your house. You've got to
Speaker 2: sort out someone to feed your animals, you got to
Speaker 2: make sure you pack, the kids are at school, you
Speaker 2: got to pick them up early, Like I get the anxiety.
Speaker 2: And then just to let people know as well, the
Speaker 2: flight is a six hour flight to Perth this evening.
Speaker 2: Then you've got an eight hour flight to South Africa.
Speaker 2: Then you've got another hour flight. So when you think
Speaker 2: about kids in sleep, they're going all the way through
Speaker 2: the night.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Ah, and you know that
Speaker 1: I think again going back to like my previous life
Speaker 1: that I had my anxiousness. I'm not going to say anxiety,
Speaker 1: because I definitely am parking that, but like my anxiousness
Speaker 1: part comes out when I go when they go, this
Speaker 1: is who you're flying with, then I go, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to fly with them. And so there's those
Speaker 1: parts of you that go, I understand the industry. I
Speaker 1: know all the little ins and outs that you probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't want to know. And then you just go, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. And under twenty four hours
Speaker 1: and again, like I said, challenge accepted if it's me,
Speaker 1: But I think my kids are like they're like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: we're going and then give me three hours on the
Speaker 1: aircraft and I will have Elsie, I'm not eating that.
Speaker 1: How much long are we going to be on this plane?
Speaker 1: I'm so hungry, I'm so perty I need this, I
Speaker 1: need that. And you just go yeah, because you'll be
Speaker 1: tired too. Yeah, it's a big trip. You're fly in
Speaker 1: on the night flight kind of thing, and then you've
Speaker 1: just got two days on ground. And then then I
Speaker 1: got told her you should be excited. You'll be flying
Speaker 1: home with Sam on his flight home. Is that exciting?
Speaker 2: Well a Toyhalt's not exciting about it is that you're
Speaker 2: flying back economy and he's in business.
Speaker 1: And this lovely, lovely lady that I would not want
Speaker 1: her job. She's organizing all of this and she works
Speaker 1: obviously for the TV show and she's like, oh, be
Speaker 1: so nice. And I was like, will it like that sarcasm?
Speaker 1: Just like it's seeping through the boat, will it? I mean? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's she's also lights head, probably twenty five no kids, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a clue. Loves travel so exciting they
Speaker 1: or you should love sitting in economy while your husband's
Speaker 1: in business with the kids all night long. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be Wow, that's wild. Yeah. Well let's look at the positive. Okay.
Speaker 1: Imagine if he wins a positive, that's awesome because that
Speaker 1: goes straight to the charity, and this charity is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Find your feet yep.
Speaker 2: Imagine if I'm saying this like I don't even believe
Speaker 2: my own sentence, but imagine if you get to purse
Speaker 2: all is great, Like that's the evening flight you settle
Speaker 2: in for the next flight and the kids sleep.
Speaker 1: For eight hours. Yeap, that could happen. That could happen anything.
Speaker 1: I like the positive. No, I'm going with your positive,
Speaker 1: so I'm not even letting anything else may head.
Speaker 2: Then you arrive in South Africa. You got one hour flight,
Speaker 2: which is easy. You know, you get on by the
Speaker 2: time you're dissenting. What's it called descending? You're like on
Speaker 2: the flight for like half an hour twenty minutes. Ye
Speaker 2: that one's easy. You get into Africa and then have
Speaker 2: a beautiful sleep in the hotel next day filming.
Speaker 1: I guess only if there's still a possibility.
Speaker 2: And then maybe the next day you can do a
Speaker 2: little safari with the animals and then come back.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: It could be amazing.
Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean I could spin it and tell you what
Speaker 1: will happen to my children when we land in South
Speaker 1: Africa if it doesn't go as positively like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of animals, the big fiver are in
Speaker 1: that jungle. Yeah, I could leave them behind. Let's not
Speaker 1: do that. Let's keep it positive. No, you're going to
Speaker 1: be positive. I'm taking a positive. They are beyond excited.
Speaker 2: That particular airline that you're worried about. You know it
Speaker 2: might exceed expectations. You never know, and if you don't
Speaker 2: get there, you won't know any never never know, if
Speaker 2: you never ever go, well, what if you don't make it?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's an awkward switch to me and