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Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Basically another episode about I a Bad Mom podcast.

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Speaker 1: I think about when we are recording He's Katie, and

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Speaker 1: I think about like the videos that might because they

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Speaker 1: don't always come out of these episodes. These are just

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Speaker 1: like when our producer deos Oh Rachel looks like, you're crazy,

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Speaker 1: let's put that one up kind of thing. I think

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Speaker 1: about the fact that I've always got a coffee cup

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Speaker 1: in front of me. You never have anything, nothing's ever

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Speaker 1: in front of you, So people are going to start

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Speaker 1: to think, is this coffee or is it?

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Speaker 2: Well no, because you know the reason that people know

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Speaker 2: that that isn't rocker is because I would also have one.

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Speaker 1: Am I a bad mum for dragging the kids across

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Speaker 1: the world. Oh?

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting one because there are two completely

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Speaker 2: different spins on this. This could be a really positive

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Speaker 2: thing or this could be an absolute fucking disaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And we're just simply joking parenting because if

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Speaker 1: this was just a personal challenge of just me, I'm

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Speaker 1: in I'm all over it. Yeah, but then you've got

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Speaker 1: two little people, You're like, oh, there's gonna be like

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Speaker 1: you already know there might be a little obstacle or

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Speaker 1: two a long way.

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Speaker 2: So anyone that doesn't know Rachel's husband Sam is currently

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Speaker 2: on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here, which

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Speaker 2: is like super exciting. I think I'm more excited than

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Speaker 2: you are about this whole thing. And so I've always

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Speaker 2: watched like it's like the one reality TV show that

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Speaker 2: I do love watching.

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Speaker 1: You're like more of a maths kind of you know

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Speaker 1: that drama. You know, I'm way behind on that just

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Speaker 1: for the record, so got a lot to catch up on.

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Speaker 1: But you have kept me Katie on the role of

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Speaker 1: excitement and direction with armaslab Get Me out of Here

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Speaker 1: because you've always watched it.

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Speaker 2: I've always watched it, and so because you've never seen

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Speaker 2: it before until your husband was on it, and I

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Speaker 2: remember saying to you, you'll go to Africa. They'll fly

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Speaker 2: you out to Africa. On previous years, the top three

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Speaker 2: their families come into the jungle and it's like this

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Speaker 2: big reveal that the kids right.

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Speaker 1: So then they're finally crying. I'm emotional, Like I cry.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know these people, So imagine when you

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Speaker 2: turn up, likely I'll film it. But I was letting

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Speaker 2: you know that might be what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was just laughing, going absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so what has ended up happening is Sammy is

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Speaker 2: one of the final ones and you are going to

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Speaker 2: Africa tonight, but you're only told today that you will

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Speaker 2: be flying tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I remember saying to you, this is so exciting.

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Speaker 2: You know what a bucket list thing. African safari, Like,

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Speaker 2: that's a dream, right. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: would love to do that. However, I do understand your

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Speaker 2: anxiety around It's.

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Speaker 1: Like it's a grip today trip. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: being this is way in my head because obviously we've

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Speaker 1: spoken about it before. I was in a previous life

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Speaker 1: a flight attendant for three years and I flew internationally.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I say this challenge for me, I

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Speaker 1: could back in thirty minutes and still be well and

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Speaker 1: truly on my way and be all over it. The

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Speaker 1: idea of doing a layover round trip to South Africa

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Speaker 1: with two children in tow. I don't want to sound

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Speaker 1: like an obnoxious twat because it's a free trip to

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Speaker 1: South Africa, right, but you're technically going for a layover

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Speaker 1: in South Africa, but just doing it with two kids,

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Speaker 1: you're like, they don't get the same concept of us

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Speaker 1: of going, Okay, I need to sleep for like five

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Speaker 1: hours and then my body will feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: better and then like I'll hang out until bedtime. And

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Speaker 1: then you don't even have that on a layover, you've

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Speaker 1: sort of just got to juggle.

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Speaker 2: I think anyone that's done a long haul flight with

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Speaker 2: kids in economy completely understands, Like, let's not take away

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Speaker 1: That you're grateful, right, grateful to go and.

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Speaker 2: You're grateful for the whole you know, experience and all

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Speaker 2: the rest of it. But I totally get and especially

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Speaker 2: with it being last minute, like I don't cope less

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Speaker 2: than twenty four hour planning. So you've got to sort

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Speaker 2: out someone to be in your house. You've got to

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Speaker 2: sort out someone to feed your animals, you got to

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Speaker 2: make sure you pack, the kids are at school, you

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Speaker 2: got to pick them up early, Like I get the anxiety.

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Speaker 2: And then just to let people know as well, the

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Speaker 2: flight is a six hour flight to Perth this evening.

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Speaker 2: Then you've got an eight hour flight to South Africa.

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Speaker 2: Then you've got another hour flight. So when you think

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Speaker 2: about kids in sleep, they're going all the way through

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Speaker 2: the night.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Ah, and you know that

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Speaker 1: I think again going back to like my previous life

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Speaker 1: that I had my anxiousness. I'm not going to say anxiety,

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Speaker 1: because I definitely am parking that, but like my anxiousness

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Speaker 1: part comes out when I go when they go, this

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Speaker 1: is who you're flying with, then I go, oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to fly with them. And so there's those

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Speaker 1: parts of you that go, I understand the industry. I

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Speaker 1: know all the little ins and outs that you probably

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Speaker 1: shouldn't want to know. And then you just go, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do it. And under twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: and again, like I said, challenge accepted if it's me,

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Speaker 1: But I think my kids are like they're like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: we're going and then give me three hours on the

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Speaker 1: aircraft and I will have Elsie, I'm not eating that.

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Speaker 1: How much long are we going to be on this plane?

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Speaker 1: I'm so hungry, I'm so perty I need this, I

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Speaker 1: need that. And you just go yeah, because you'll be

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Speaker 1: tired too. Yeah, it's a big trip. You're fly in

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Speaker 1: on the night flight kind of thing, and then you've

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Speaker 1: just got two days on ground. And then then I

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Speaker 1: got told her you should be excited. You'll be flying

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Speaker 1: home with Sam on his flight home. Is that exciting?

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Speaker 2: Well a Toyhalt's not exciting about it is that you're

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Speaker 2: flying back economy and he's in business.

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Speaker 1: And this lovely, lovely lady that I would not want

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Speaker 1: her job. She's organizing all of this and she works

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Speaker 1: obviously for the TV show and she's like, oh, be

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Speaker 1: so nice. And I was like, will it like that sarcasm?

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Speaker 1: Just like it's seeping through the boat, will it? I mean? Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's let's she's also lights head, probably twenty five no kids, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have a clue. Loves travel so exciting they

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Speaker 1: or you should love sitting in economy while your husband's

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Speaker 1: in business with the kids all night long. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Wow, that's wild. Yeah. Well let's look at the positive. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if he wins a positive, that's awesome because that

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Speaker 1: goes straight to the charity, and this charity is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Find your feet yep.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if I'm saying this like I don't even believe

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Speaker 2: my own sentence, but imagine if you get to purse

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Speaker 2: all is great, Like that's the evening flight you settle

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Speaker 2: in for the next flight and the kids sleep.

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Speaker 1: For eight hours. Yeap, that could happen. That could happen anything.

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Speaker 1: I like the positive. No, I'm going with your positive,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not even letting anything else may head.

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Speaker 2: Then you arrive in South Africa. You've got one hour flight,

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Speaker 2: which is easy. You know, you get on by the

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Speaker 2: time you're dissenting. What's it called descending, You're like on

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Speaker 2: the flight for like half an hour twenty minutes. Ye

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Speaker 2: that one's easy. You get into Africa and then have

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Speaker 2: a beautiful sleep in the hotel next day filming.

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Speaker 1: I guess only if there's still a possibility.

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Speaker 2: And then maybe the next day you can do a

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Speaker 2: little safari with the animals and then come back.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: It could be amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 1: I mean I could spin it and tell you what

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Speaker 1: will happen to my children when we land in South

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Speaker 1: Africa if it doesn't go as positively like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of animals, the big fiver are in

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Speaker 1: that jungle. Yeah, I could leave them behind. Let's not

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Speaker 1: do that. Let's keep it positive. No, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be positive. I'm taking a positive. They are beyond excited.

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Speaker 2: That particular airline that you're worried about. You know it

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Speaker 2: might exceed expectations. You never know, and if you don't

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Speaker 2: get there, you won't know any never never know, if

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Speaker 2: you never ever go, well, what if you don't make it?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's an awkward switch to me and