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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, hi. Hi, hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Monty, I've got to ask you to kick us off. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what your thoughts are going to be on this,

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<v Speaker 2>but so as discussed many times previously, my daughter just

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<v Speaker 2>turned 18. It's like my claim to fame. No, it's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. You didn't send me her speech. You were going

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<v Speaker 1>to send me her speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, I've got to send it to you. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>send it to you after this. I'm writing a note.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, please do.

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<v Speaker 2>So she has been saying for a while that she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to get a little tattoo, and I've sort of

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<v Speaker 2>been trying to dissuade her because I'm like, I got

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<v Speaker 2>my tattoo when I was 19.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your tattoo?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a couple. I've got a little, like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the most, what's the word, basic bitch tattoo

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<v Speaker 2>on my foot. I've just got my kids two initials, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's cute. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>L and D, right, whatever. But the 19-year-old one is

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<v Speaker 2>my shoulder blade. I have an Asian symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, what's it mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It means woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, in case you forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>For several reasons, that's embarrassing. But at the time, if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, the late 90s, Asian symbols were huge. They

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<v Speaker 2>were huge. Is it racist?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's weird. I wonder if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel right doing that now, does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Not very authentic. No. It's like a trend and it's

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<v Speaker 2>on there forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But what also, what language is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you even know? Oh, my God, Mel, it's so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like an Asian symbol. I know, but at 19,

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<v Speaker 2>your brain's not there and also- I will say this,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is not a defence of, like, racism or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like how we are now, there is so

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<v Speaker 2>much more understanding about what you should and shouldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever. But if you look back, it's like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they'll find a picture of a celebrity when they were

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<v Speaker 2>in college 30 years ago in blackface in a costume, right?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>can so see that's wrong, but also I'm not excusing

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<v Speaker 2>it at all, but it's like at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were so much more racist. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still fucking extremely racist, but we were so much more

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<v Speaker 1>unaware and we weren't as involved then. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>still got a huge way to go, but we weren't as,

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<v Speaker 1>it was still really, really fucking bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's more maybe we weren't mindful of

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<v Speaker 2>how hurtful No, we weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of things I even used to say and

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<v Speaker 1>think as a kid and I'm like, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>if my kids said or thought how I did when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger, I would be disgusted.

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<v Speaker 2>Eeny, meeny, miny, moe. I mean, that's all I have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I didn't even know what that word meant. Neither.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when Odie goes to sing that now, I clench.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, what word are you going to say?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, of course, that's never going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they say tiger?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. I forget what he does. He

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<v Speaker 1>just mumbles around it. But I'm like, oh, my God,

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea. Anyway, so what does she want

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<v Speaker 1>to get?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Mark is not really into this idea. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like he has a tattoo but he's like anti-tattoos. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, listen, she never puts a foot wrong. If

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<v Speaker 2>this is the worst thing we're going to come up against, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>let her do it. she was like, she's always been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like just something thin in a spot that

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<v Speaker 2>she can cover or whatever. And so I said to her,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to, if you don't want, but do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get something matching together? Like just something

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<v Speaker 2>of the two of us. Yeah. Yes. But the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>to find something.

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<v Speaker 1>So does she want to do that? Yes. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the sweetest thing of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I sort of like, if there's any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>nice reason you can give to it, I'm like, that

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a nice thing. And, You know, one day

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<v Speaker 2>she'll look at that and it'll be a nice reminder, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you'll be dead. Yes. She'll have a matching

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<v Speaker 1>one with you, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. But coming up with an idea of what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes to me, should we get the chemist's warehouse logo?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's where you guys go all the time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your outing.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I'm stuck in this paralysis of what to get.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It can go very like cringy as well. Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard though because you also want it to have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of meaning because Stacey and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to get matching ones for a while and Kerry

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<v Speaker 1>and I have too. So we often will send things

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<v Speaker 1>back and forward and I'm like, that's cute, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>got literally no meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's got to have meaning. It's got to have meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like no, and no offense to anyone that's

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<v Speaker 2>got one, but no infinity symbols or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that. You don't want a butterfly like

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<v Speaker 1>mine on your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, I just, I was just like, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to think of something that even if it's just meaningful

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<v Speaker 2>to us.

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<v Speaker 1>What about just a heart, a beautiful, simple heart? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I want a heart. A thin line

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<v Speaker 1>heart on the inside of your wrist. I'd get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So what have you come up with? Have you come

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<v Speaker 1>up with anything?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've come up with nothing. I just keep seeing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and it's like lots of, you know, sun and

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<v Speaker 2>moon and all this sort of stuff. And we are

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<v Speaker 2>quite opposite, right? So the idea is nice. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, no, now it's like this, it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be perfect. It's got to be like the pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you'll never get one.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough because it's going to be on there forever. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's so beautiful though. Your relationship with Dom

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<v Speaker 1>is so beautiful, Mel. Like I know you're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've got to just notice. No, it's very rare

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. It's also not perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, no relationship is perfect. But when I like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the fact that you're going to send

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<v Speaker 1>me her because you were just, it was so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>As an 18-year-old, just to treasure and love her parents

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<v Speaker 1>that much in front of a room full of people. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I follow Dom and she's put up on her birthday

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<v Speaker 1>like a picture of her and her brother and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Things like that are so special. They're the little things

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<v Speaker 1>that we've got to go, this is really special, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a joy, this is a glimmer, and grab it.

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<v Speaker 1>And your relationship with your daughter is hugely one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a credit to you. Oh, thanks. That's okay. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have a whinge now moving on from that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the end of footy season. My boys play AFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Arlo plays in a bucket load of team sports.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of every season, I always just wait

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<v Speaker 1>a day or two to go, who's going to put

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<v Speaker 1>up their hand to organize a fucking coach present? No

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<v Speaker 1>one does.

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<v Speaker 2>No one.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever put up their hand to organize the coach a present.

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<v Speaker 1>So every fucking season, for every fucking sport, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>monkey who's like, hey guys, I'm going to organize a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are my bank details. I'm like, why does no

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<v Speaker 1>one do it, Mel? I.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to admit, I'm the lazy parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that you are one that's not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But also you're, I contribute, but it wouldn't even occur

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<v Speaker 2>to me really. But I would also say that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pressure on the one family considering Sam

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<v Speaker 2>was the team manager too.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless team managers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. This year I'm not organizing that one,

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<v Speaker 1>but my husband, not my husband, my partner was the

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<v Speaker 1>team manager and I still had to organize the presents

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<v Speaker 1>for the coaches and I'm like, Because no one was

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. And I'm like, this is ridiculous. I am

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<v Speaker 1>the manager's partner. I don't have to do anything and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to contribute because we've already put in

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<v Speaker 1>our thing for this season. But organizing that, so I

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<v Speaker 1>organized my own partner's present because no other fucking parent

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<v Speaker 1>put up their hand. But then it's with everything. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I think it's so important to thank people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. But I think that you need to give coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all parents. They've given up their time. Coaches and

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<v Speaker 1>managers need to have presence at the end of seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it gets expensive for everybody, but they've also

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<v Speaker 1>given up so much time. But I am just in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment now about to put out the last call

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<v Speaker 1>and go, last chance to put in money. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, why does no one else ever put

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<v Speaker 1>up their hand? And I'm like, maybe because I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking idiot that they know will do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing. It becomes like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we all take advantage of, it's like we all take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of people, the idea of like, oh, it's bin night,

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<v Speaker 2>Sam will do the bins or whatever. Like that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. It's like, oh, well, oh, but Katie usually

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<v Speaker 2>does it. So she'll do it again this year, which

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<v Speaker 2>is unfair.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like next season I'm going to just do

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<v Speaker 1>my own presents. And just go, here's a bottle of

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<v Speaker 1>wine and write a card from my kid and that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be it. Because it's just- That's a good idea. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't help but get shits at the parents who

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<v Speaker 1>don't put in anything. Because it's like, you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You can contribute 15 bucks. I know you've got 15 bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the area we're living in. I know this is,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that cash. So just put in 15, 20 bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If we all chip in that- Not contributing is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. And it's like, I'm giving you warnings. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know- So then I know the parents and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't help but judge the parents and go, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got your kid looked after all fucking season by that

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<v Speaker 1>person and you didn't even contribute a cent to their

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<v Speaker 1>thank you gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so irrational. It's so fine. Check yourself. No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Monty, I read this thing the other day that

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<v Speaker 2>was so interesting. So the idea was, you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>there's all the maxing, you know, looks maxing, fiber maxing,

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<v Speaker 2>protein maxing, whatever. And I read this thing the other

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<v Speaker 2>day that was saying what we should be doing is

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<v Speaker 2>attention span maxing. And it says, watch three-hour talks, read

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<v Speaker 2>books for hours at a time, watch the entire movie

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<v Speaker 2>without taking a break, stare into space, losing yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>thought and imagination. Do not check your phone. The opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of brain rot is the will to focus in a

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<v Speaker 2>culture that wants to pull you every other way. When

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<v Speaker 2>I read that, I was like, that is powerful because

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<v Speaker 2>it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it used to be, Malin. Like we would

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<v Speaker 1>watch whole movies and wouldn't need our phones. We would

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<v Speaker 1>read whole books. Like I get into bed and I

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<v Speaker 1>read for 10 minutes and I'm like, back to Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. It's so bad. The idea of having to

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<v Speaker 2>put effort into anything, having to wait for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so bad. Yeah. I'm terrified of that. It's so,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because the thing is, and I also get

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<v Speaker 1>the shits at Bax who's got his phone in his

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<v Speaker 1>hand all the time, but I tell him off, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>put your phone away when I've got my phone in

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. It's like I'm so addicted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media and to my phone my attention span so

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<v Speaker 1>like even watching reality tv last night which is like

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<v Speaker 1>just dopamine hit after dopamine hit wasn't even enough for

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<v Speaker 1>me I watched 20 minutes I'm like bored turned it

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<v Speaker 1>off went to find something else like so like the

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson movie I went and watched that and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>just loved it I was getting bored during it I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like nah I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I am Because there's no patience anymore. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>get to the point. It was like YouTube now, YouTube shorts.

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<v Speaker 2>In a minute, tell me what you've got to tell

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<v Speaker 2>me in a minute or I don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time. And you're not even when you

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<v Speaker 2>say I don't have time. It's I don't have time

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<v Speaker 2>to listen. It's like once upon a time you would

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<v Speaker 2>share parts of yourself or you'd have conversations about your

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<v Speaker 2>interests and then someone would tell you about their interests.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's like I don't need to know about

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<v Speaker 2>your interests because I've got this phone here with me

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<v Speaker 2>that's just going to give me all of my interests. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like so scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is an antidote, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that phones are going to become obsolete or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not happening. Never. I think there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>idea of just people you know, surrendering to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that this is sort of part of life now. But

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<v Speaker 2>I saw another post and it was talking about life

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<v Speaker 2>is boring because it has no side quests. Here are

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<v Speaker 2>33 side quests to complete this year. It says before August,

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<v Speaker 2>but this year seems better. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean, because it's August now. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the end of August.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Although it was the end of July, big ask to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, 33 things in a month. God. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, just deviating quickly, I also said to Mark

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, I want to learn something. Nothing that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to, like, I don't want to learn anything educational

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like my brain just, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>brain space for it. But I said, like, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn something. Like, I want to learn to roller skate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put time and effort into something and being able

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<v Speaker 2>to then do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that won't take you long because you'll have the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be in there from when you were a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I really want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go horse riding on the beach. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it will hurt my moot, but I really

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<v Speaker 1>just want to go. Like there's a horse riding place here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, Sam, will you come horse riding with me?

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<v Speaker 1>And he just laughed. I'm like, no, I'm dead serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll make one of the kids come with me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the idea of a wild, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>have a recurring dream, I think I've told you this,

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<v Speaker 2>of a horse that was loose in an undercover car park.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was sitting there and it was just galloping around.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know when a dream is so full on

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like you're there, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have it often. Yeah, that's really scary. And doing

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<v Speaker 1>that and a brumby.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. While brumby. A horse could fucking mess

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<v Speaker 2>you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, beautiful creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Okay, so I'm just going to read out a

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<v Speaker 2>few of these that I thought were good. Explore a

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<v Speaker 2>local market you always drive past. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>local market, but anyway, okay. I do, we've got heaps here.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a different route home today. New paths unlock new thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, oh, that's nice. I'd get lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one road in and out of my town. Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That does my head in. I'm like, the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>times I've driven this road, so I can't do that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to a stranger. Real life has better characters than

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<v Speaker 2>your feed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the idea of just making conversation with someone, you could,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't even have to be to make a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>but you'll always learn something. Like there's always something, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something interesting about everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Just putting yourself out there. Cause I still am in

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<v Speaker 1>park land and we've got a bike pump track over

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<v Speaker 1>the road from our house. So I do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sitting. And it all depends what mood I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm like, please, somebody come and sit next to

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<v Speaker 1>me so I can talk to them. Other times I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even– I do not. I put my sunnies

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<v Speaker 1>on and do not look at them.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I know. Put earphones in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a do not disturb in real life. Yeah,

0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.900
<v Speaker 1>that's a total do not disturb. Yeah, I should take

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<v Speaker 1>the earphones.

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<v Speaker 2>Sign up for something you're terrible at. Beginner energy is underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, the vulnerability to know that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be bad but you're putting yourself out there anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm doing an art class on– on Saturday and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a, yeah, a friend got it for her

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<v Speaker 1>birthday and she's like, do you want to come? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a painting class. And I do painting just like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like just abstract stuff. But this is like proper picture

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<v Speaker 1>that you paint. Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me there's, oh, I've always wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>to one of those nudes. Is it a nude?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a cactus.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's kind of shaped like a dickie, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so fucked up. But I always think a

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<v Speaker 2>male nude. Let's say you're a real hot chick and

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<v Speaker 2>you're in that class and you're sketching a male nude.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you were just like giving him like blowjob signals

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff with your hands to see, almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>bet to see, is he going to get an erection

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<v Speaker 2>from this? Can I make this man make an erection

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<v Speaker 2>just with my facial expressions?

0:16:02.590 --> 0:16:07.410
<v Speaker 1>Giving him blowjob signals. Imagine, imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're just like sucking on a straw in front

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<v Speaker 2>of him and seeing if you get any reaction. That's horrible. Wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Paint something ugly. Art is expression, not perfection.

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<v Speaker 1>True.

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<v Speaker 2>Write a short story, even a bad one. Yeah. You're

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<v Speaker 2>an author if you do that, which is true. Cook

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<v Speaker 2>a dish from a country you've never visited. Build a

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<v Speaker 2>playlist for a specific emotion. Title it something cinematic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea. I need to do that because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'm like, oh, I need to change my mood

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<v Speaker 1>or I feel like this or that, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>just end up scrolling through songs. I do need to

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<v Speaker 1>make more playlists.

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<v Speaker 2>Make something with your hands. There is an incredible, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what she is. Her name's Martha Beck. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's a psychologist or a psychotherapist or something. She

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<v Speaker 2>was Oprah's life coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine being Oprah's life coach.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so incredible. She's actually, yeah. But she does a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work around anxiety and she says that anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>and creativity cannot occur at the same time. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeling anxious, do something creative.

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<v Speaker 1>Creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the parts of your brain that are required to

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<v Speaker 2>be anxious can't work when you're like immersed in something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so true. You know what? The other day I

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<v Speaker 1>took Odie, there's a bead shop here. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, do you want to go down and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make a necklace? So anyway, we went and got the

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<v Speaker 1>beads and stuff and his little hands, the tiny beads.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ended up doing it all because his little

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<v Speaker 1>motor skills are not there yet. But I brought it

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<v Speaker 1>home and I made him a necklace and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so meditative. I don't know if that's the right word.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just putting the beads on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it came to dinner time. I couldn't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. I was in full hyper-focus ADHD. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot stop. And then Otis had walked away, completely

0:17:57.740 --> 0:17:59.619
<v Speaker 1>lost interest. The kids are getting hungry. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't fucking stop. I can't stop until this necklace

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<v Speaker 1>is done. It became a beautiful thing into a stressful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. I know because you're so deep in it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you pick your moments, it's almost like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're stuck on an idea, like you need

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<v Speaker 2>to think of an idea for something or you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. the more that you focus on it, the

0:18:21.540 --> 0:18:24.480
<v Speaker 2>more that you think about it, it's like you're hitting

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<v Speaker 2>a wall. You can't come up with what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Something like that, if you also struggle with meditation or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, it's like the shower epiphanies, how I've

0:18:35.630 --> 0:18:38.650
<v Speaker 2>said I have shower epiphanies, that your brain is on meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's sort of offline too. Like you're doing something repetitive.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not really thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a fetus state almost. Is that what they

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<v Speaker 1>call it?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the ideas come. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get more beads and stuff. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a bit of jewelry. Are you beading?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate, I've fucking been beading for that long. The only

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<v Speaker 2>punish is I drop a lot of beads and then

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<v Speaker 2>the vacuum cleaner doesn't pick them up properly. It must

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<v Speaker 2>be something in the filter. But I love it. Like

0:19:00.900 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 2>even just colors, putting colors together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you get your beads from? Because it wasn't cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>this one from Denny's.

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<v Speaker 2>I order a lot from Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon, all right. Yeah. And do you get like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you get fishing wire for your necklaces and stuff?

0:19:15.460 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What do you use? Well, I use, like usually

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<v Speaker 2>I just use the elastic, but all different sizes because

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<v Speaker 2>different beads are different sizes. I haven't perfected. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>all like the clasps and stuff that you can make

0:19:26.570 --> 0:19:29.570
<v Speaker 2>with the actual fishing wire, but I haven't like gotten

0:19:29.670 --> 0:19:33.639
<v Speaker 2>deep into, not fishing wire. It's like, it's metal, but

0:19:33.660 --> 0:19:35.230
<v Speaker 2>I tried to use it. I'm going to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fucking square. scratched myself with.

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<v Speaker 1>It yeah because the lady at the bead shop said

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<v Speaker 1>you what you do this is so boring for people

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't interested but you know how the fishing wire

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.740
<v Speaker 1>sticks out at the end? Yes. She said you need

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it long enough to thread back through, through

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<v Speaker 1>about five beads, and then you cut it so then

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it's stuck inside the beads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, like, again, YouTube and stuff. You can

0:19:56.740 --> 0:19:57.660
<v Speaker 2>learn anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea- After this, I'm going to go and

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<v Speaker 1>buy some beads and start beading.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what else? It's also the idea that you're

0:20:05.230 --> 0:20:08.150
<v Speaker 2>also making something that no one else has. Yeah.

0:20:08.170 --> 0:20:10.510
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, straightaway I go, how can I make money

0:20:10.590 --> 0:20:12.350
<v Speaker 1>out of that? Like anytime I have an idea, I

0:20:12.670 --> 0:20:15.169
<v Speaker 1>straightaway go, oh, is there money in that? There's no money.

0:20:15.230 --> 0:20:16.889
<v Speaker 2>But you know what? I need to just do it

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<v Speaker 2>just for pure joy. Just do it for joy and

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe something else will come.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone's going to buy my beads. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do get some like fake, like do

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<v Speaker 1>pearls in the mix and stuff like that too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Do you pearls?

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<v Speaker 2>Online, I like those ones. I don't know, are they

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<v Speaker 2>called freshwater pearls or whatever, the ones that are like flat? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a bit more flat. They're not so round.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You would know them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're a bit more of a flatter pearl. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, they were just a few things, but just

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<v Speaker 2>simple little things that we probably would have done like

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Would just would have been our life. It wouldn't have been,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have even been a thing. That would just

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<v Speaker 1>be normal life because we didn't have phones. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have all the streaming services. We didn't have the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like we just used to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than we are now.

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<v Speaker 2>And be bored. Let yourself be bored.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but the thing is at the moment I messaged

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<v Speaker 1>you the other day, I'm like, fuck, I'm feeling so

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<v Speaker 1>bored because my headaches have eased, touched wood. I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>the best run I've had in years. I'm a bit like, oh, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>now I've got all this time. I'm not in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a bit bored. So I'll start feeding. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what? Take it as an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>do stuff that you never had time to do before.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is because my time will fill up

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<v Speaker 1>and other commitments will come in that have to be

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<v Speaker 1>done where at the moment I have a bit of freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm also like feeling a bit bored. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to enjoy the boredom and sit with the boredom. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for those.

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