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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Official Supercoach AFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Al Payton and we are well into the preseason

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Speaker 1: now and into our positional shows. That the boys in

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Speaker 1: the lair got together earlier in the week and talked

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Speaker 1: about midfielder, so go back and listen to that. They

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Speaker 1: had a choice of any position, and of course they've

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Speaker 1: gone with the one. Weather's about fifty players that we'd

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Speaker 1: all love to pick, but we're going to take on

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Speaker 1: something a little bit more challenging today. The Melbourne crew

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Speaker 1: have got together to talk about the Rucks, so not

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Speaker 1: as many names, but some really big decisions to make

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Speaker 1: there that we will have a lot of consequences flow

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Speaker 1: on effects on the rest of our team and some

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Speaker 1: good strategy talk to get into as well. So joining

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Speaker 1: me today to do that is Chloe Williams. Chloe, great

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Speaker 1: to have you on board for. Is this your first

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Speaker 1: show of the year.

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Speaker 2: I can't even remember, it doesn't be honest, I think

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Speaker 2: it could be my second, but it could be my first.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, but I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, that's good either, That's the important thing. And of

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Speaker 1: course welcoming a very special guest, very honored to have

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Speaker 1: with us the star of the Drafted Show.

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Speaker 3: Patch. Hello, Hello, I'm very excited. We just spoke about

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Speaker 3: you know, we've got a ruck show coming up for Drafted.

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Speaker 3: We have a rock show happening now for Classic. Very

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Speaker 3: excited to make some big decisions about some physically big players.

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Speaker 3: Very keen for a chat.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. Sorry, yes we did touch on it there if

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen it in the feed. The new Drafted

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Speaker 1: show is dedicated to Supercoach Draft. Really great intro show

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Speaker 1: explaining why draft is great and how it all works

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Speaker 1: with Patch and Dossi and of course they have good

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Speaker 1: friend Lecdog as well, and then starting to go through

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Speaker 1: the positional rankings on those as well. So that's great

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Speaker 1: to have that on the feed. This is where, of

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Speaker 1: course you can get all your Super Coach AFL content

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Speaker 1: find us on the Apple, Spotify or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: good podcasts, and of course on the Code Sports YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get straight into the rucks, and I think yes,

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Speaker 1: strategy off the top is really interesting when it comes

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Speaker 1: to rucks. I mean it always is a big decision

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's a good place to start picking your

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Speaker 1: team because apart from anything else, you're spending potentially a

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Speaker 1: lot of money and that affects what you can do

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Speaker 1: in other positions. But I thought I'd just start by

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Speaker 1: going round the table and asking how many rucks are

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Speaker 1: we actually picking this year? Because we now have the

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Speaker 1: flex position, which gives us the option of potentially picking

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Speaker 1: an extra ruckman, which is something I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people like Keno and doing given their scoring potential.

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Speaker 1: But maybe it depends who's available and does that rob

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Speaker 1: you some flexibility in other areas? But what's your current

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Speaker 1: ruck set up at the moment, Chloe, you're thinking you

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Speaker 1: know the old set and forget or getting some cheap

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Speaker 1: he's in there, someone in flex. Without going into too

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Speaker 1: much detail on the names, which we will go through shortly,

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Speaker 1: but strategy wise, what are you thinking.

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Speaker 4: At the moment?

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Speaker 2: For me, my ruck line has probably changed the most

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Speaker 2: while I've been tinkering with my team, not really for

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Speaker 2: so many injuries in that area. I just feel like

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Speaker 2: there's so much up in the air with a couple

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Speaker 2: considered getting a bit of a cheaper ruck shout out

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Speaker 2: Matt Flynn in my flex position. At the moment, he's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, though.

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Speaker 2: I think with the way everything's playing out with the Rugs,

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Speaker 2: having two gun rucks might be how I will end

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're giving it away. That's what I'm doing as

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Speaker 1: well at the moment. But that only change feeler recently

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Speaker 1: and could definitely change back. But yet at the moment,

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Speaker 1: looking at two big dog rucks on the field, a

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Speaker 1: purchased it on the right track?

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe I don't know. No one knows this year,

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Speaker 3: But what I'm doing is just going back to the tried,

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Speaker 3: setting and I am forgetting. Once we get a bit

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Speaker 3: aside from trading in Harry Boyd earlier, I haven't made

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Speaker 3: rock line. In the complete contrast to Chloe, good for

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Speaker 3: some it's really nice to just not have to like

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Speaker 3: it's just set, not worrying about it late. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the flex does add that option to then

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Speaker 3: we may well end up with a ruck in that

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Speaker 1: Chloe, what are your thoughts on I know some people

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Speaker 1: keen to start maybe a Flinn or even someone cheaper

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Speaker 1: what I can get those guys and if I think

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Speaker 2: I think the old me would have said, yes, I

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Speaker 2: will entertain that, but I'm trying to be a little

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Speaker 2: bit more reponsible this year. I do have a few

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Speaker 2: the moment, it's not something i'd be looking to do.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably lean more into the flex to cover that role.

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Speaker 2: I was one of many who tried out the Jordan

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Speaker 2: Sweet experiment last year, although I wasn't quite prepared to

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Speaker 2: it didn't work out very well for me because it

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Speaker 2: of with someone like Flynn, So to have him as

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Speaker 2: potentially in my R two, I'm not personally willing to

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Speaker 2: more comfortable having him in a flex position.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's worked in the past with some of

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Speaker 1: the great names of super coach. I think Zack Smith

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Speaker 1: it feels safer for me looking at my team having

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Speaker 1: just the two big expensive rucks there, but it does

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Speaker 1: like Cherry last year, and you've already spent all your

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Speaker 1: then what do you do with him? But although maybe

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Speaker 1: Flex gives you the option this year, there is someone

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Speaker 1: somewhere you could try and put him. The only thing

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Speaker 1: the rookies. So if that's what I want on field

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Speaker 1: I'm still were playing around with you know, how exactly

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Speaker 1: What I'd be better off putting a you know, a

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Speaker 1: Flynn has to stay there. Then there's no way you

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Speaker 1: in with one of your other rucks. So it does

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Speaker 1: limit you a little bit. So there's pros and cons,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think we'll be playing with that

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Speaker 1: the best way to play it. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's not not cut and dried. That ruck is the

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Speaker 1: obvious position to use in that spot. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: how it plays out. But we may as well start

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Speaker 1: at the top, top end, and Dossy has set up

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Speaker 1: same format that they did on the lair, starting at

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Speaker 1: the top end premiums. And there's one very clear cut

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty after the buy. North Melbourne doesn't

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Speaker 1: don't play an opening round. So lots of very compelling

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Speaker 1: reasons to pick Cherry And obviously a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are are you locking him in? Patrick? What are your

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Speaker 3: Yep, he is in my side and hasn't moved. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just think he's neat. You know, there's been a

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Speaker 3: little bit of discussion around his insane tackle numbers last

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Speaker 3: year and got a lot of points from them, and

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Speaker 3: there's you know, you wonder whether or not it's physically

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Speaker 3: possible to keep that up, to keep that level of

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Speaker 3: scoring up. But I think the fact that he's only

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Speaker 3: twenty five, he's a baby in terms of rucks, so

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Speaker 3: there's enough improvement I think coming possibly in other areas

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Speaker 3: a few more hit outs to advantages, he learns to

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Speaker 3: you know, really, you know, compete in the ruck and

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Speaker 3: become an incredible tap ruckman. Their scope for growth there,

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Speaker 3: their scope for growth, you know, and in other parts

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Speaker 3: of the ground that I think could make up for

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Speaker 3: tackle numbers if they did so. I think there's certainly

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Speaker 3: we might not have seen Cherry's ceiling just yet. He

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Speaker 3: could have another year to go to where he could

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Speaker 3: do you know, a year where he averages one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty as opposed to that, you know, that twelve

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Speaker 3: game stretch. So I certainly don't think that you know,

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Speaker 3: you're locking him in and he's only going to get cheaper.

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Speaker 3: There's every chance he does perform a few points worse

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Speaker 3: this year than he did last year, but they're still

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Speaker 3: I think they're still upside to Cherry. So he's locked

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Speaker 3: in at this stage, and yeah, I'm not surprised that

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Speaker 3: fifty five percent of the competition has done so as well.

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Speaker 1: Chloe, we were talking just before we came on here

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Speaker 1: and you were saying, that's a lot of uncertainty, or

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it early, a lot of uncertainty around roles

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Speaker 1: in the ruck. But Cherry's one we don't have any

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Speaker 1: He is fund own, is he when he's going when

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Speaker 3: He's so good. Chloe, You you've got him in You're

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Speaker 3: I don't need to keep flaming me for my pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's right. But no, you

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Speaker 2: Remember being one of those despondent Yeah, one of those

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Speaker 1: I think we need to just get this out to him,

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Speaker 3: not worth starting. You don't want to handcuff as much

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Speaker 1: I mean the potential's obviously there. They've got Sam Darcy,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's taking too many of his points

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Speaker 3: Nope, Right the questions you're on, I just like every

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Speaker 1: I just nah, I nap like Tim publish the story

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Speaker 1: this morning, kick it out on Coat Sports and all

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that says it all. They've also got

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Speaker 3: for Crossley, you hate that for English, hate that for

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Speaker 3: I mean, he'll play back pocket. But I know, Chloe,

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Speaker 3: you are you the same?

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Speaker 4: No, not knows so well.

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Speaker 2: Now technically I am, but a few weeks ago, a

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Speaker 4: Feel like I'm saying this like everyone, but he was

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Speaker 3: Do you want to listen the rugs.

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Speaker 2: But this is the reason. I'll give you a great

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Speaker 2: of all the niggles that everybody else was carrying or

433
00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,000
Speaker 2: the uncertainty. But yeah, then you're also add in Crossley.

434
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,200
Speaker 2: Don't know what's going to happen there, but it would

435
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 2: definitely have an impact on him if if that all

436
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 2: goes through.

437
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 3: I think maybe he does some more with like midfield

438
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,639
Speaker 3: losses or midfield carnage, but I may, I don't know,

439
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 3: Maybe he also plays staff back. Al are you interested

440
00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 3: in him at all?

441
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,480
Speaker 1: He's never been in my you know, two or three

442
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 1: rucks that I've sort of flipped between, and he hasn't

443
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 1: been one of them. So this is why I feel

444
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 1: like it's a bit of a ride or die. I

445
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,159
Speaker 1: didn't pick him back in twenty twenty three, and I'm

446
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 1: sticky with that theory hopefully work out when we in

447
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 1: the long run, even though it was a killer that season.

448
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we touched on Crossley there, Tom Campbell and

449
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 1: the other big cheap ruckman, so we haven't even got

450
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, we'll do a separate section on cheap rucks

451
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 1: later on. But when talking about how it impacts other

452
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 1: Primo rucks, the big one in the preseason getting a

453
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: lot of talk is down at the Saints and what

454
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 1: do they do with Rowan Marshall. Now he's got pelvis injury,

455
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: but ross Lyin said the other day that no, you

456
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 1: would definitely play round one, So what does that mean

457
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: for him? What does that mean for Harry Boyd is

458
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: of course the player I'm talking about his coming. They've

459
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: signed him as a mature age ruckman. We can talk

460
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,360
Speaker 1: about all his numbers later on how impressive they are.

461
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 1: But do we believe the the you know, talk about

462
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 1: Rod Marshall just playing as a forward this year and

463
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 1: you know maybe the Saints playing two rucks. Obviously Marsha

464
00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 1: is pretty good when he goes down in front of goal,

465
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 1: but he's all so very good in the ruck, so

466
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be just assuming that they won't play him there.

467
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I funny. We had an expert who could give

468
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 3: us some insight into watch and Kilda might.

469
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: Be thinking that would be very good if we did,

470
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: and we do actually so we announced our new supercoach

471
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: and bassetted this week, Lee Montagna, and he has some

472
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Speaker 2: great inside to give us on this situation.

473
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 5: The Harry Boyd Roal Marshall dilemma is interesting. I wouldn't

474
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Speaker 5: have been putting Boyd in my team if Roald Marshall

475
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 5: was fit because I think the Saints will just go

476
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 5: with one ruck. But if Roald Marshall doesn't get up

477
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 5: for the early games of the season, which is still

478
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,479
Speaker 5: a month away, but at this stage, you've probably got

479
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 5: to have Boyd on your bench because he'll be getting

480
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 5: first crack until Rowand does come back.

481
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Speaker 1: So I would trust what Joey says about Sprishy would

482
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: have some pretty good contexts down to the Saints and

483
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: getting down and watching training as well. But I mean,

484
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 1: from the sound of that, it sounds like Boyd is

485
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Speaker 1: a rock back up to Marshall rather than thinking they're

486
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Speaker 1: going to play in the same team. So doesn't necessarily

487
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: rule that Marshall is a pick. It'd be pretty brave.

488
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 1: He's only in five percent of teams now, so it

489
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: would be a huge pod. But you know, again, we

490
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: know how good Sin killed his fixture. Is Is it

491
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: something we should be thinking about more? Chloe? Would you

492
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: consider it?

493
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm personally not considering him just because of the other

494
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: options available in the rock line, and as I mentioned before,

495
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Speaker 2: I do have a few Pod type of players in

496
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: my mid and considering a couple in my forward line.

497
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's the place for me to

498
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: target a pod personally, just for the way that my

499
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: team is set up at the moment. But obviously we've

500
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: seen him do it before, so it would definitely not

501
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: be the worst pick. The only thing that I have

502
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: is obviously there's natural growth there, but his highest super

503
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: coach average being around the one hundred and fourteen mark.

504
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: I'd probably rather pick a Cherry or even potentially I

505
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: don't know, a Lloyd Meek or someone if he can,

506
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 2: you know, hold down that role. But that's just for

507
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 2: me personally. I've also never been a Marshall owner. I

508
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: know that Dossi's been a Marshall owner, but no, he's

509
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 2: it's I guess it's like you with.

510
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: Big tim Oh.

511
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: I've never really owned him, so I don't feel like

512
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: I've missed out hugely when I haven't owned him.

513
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: So I we just totally rather you look at the

514
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, his overall average is about one fourteen last year,

515
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: but from round nineteen and I think we had last

516
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: year's winning joven On and this must have been about

517
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: when he jumped on. I think he scored in the

518
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: last sort of six or seven rounds one twenty three, one,

519
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: thirty five, one, twenty six, one, twenty six, one, forty

520
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: six one twenty so he can score and looking at

521
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: those those fixtures, he's actually got just about the best

522
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: drawer of a lot of them. They play Geelong twice

523
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,239
Speaker 1: and Kilda this year, Richmond twice, Bulldogs twice, gw WE

524
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: West twice, so they're all teams that usually give up

525
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: points in the ruck has Geelong in round two, Richmond

526
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: round three, Port in round four, so he could go right.

527
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: The issue I guess is he's he's basically missing all

528
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: the preseasons, so that.

529
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: Makes it tough. Yeah, And that's the big, the big,

530
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: the big one for me is that it's really hard,

531
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: especially from a ruck when they've got to cover so

532
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: much ground and they've got so much body to get

533
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: right that you really want to make sure that they're

534
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: especially when it's something you know, if it's a shoulder,

535
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: maybe you can you can't even really carry that, but

536
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: especially something that's you know, legs growing pal verse, it's

537
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: just so difficult. If he shows signs in the preseason

538
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: that he's fit and raring to go, and he's they're

539
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: not nursing him to round one then I will I'll

540
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: pretty heavily consider him, especially if I get cold feet

541
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: on the underpriced premium that I currently have. Who will

542
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: talk about shortly.

543
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: I guess, sorry, but I guess.

544
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: The only other thing as well, though, is say he's

545
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: got that pelvis injury, he doesn't have a full preseason

546
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: if it flares up again, or even if it flares

547
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: up again slightly. Now that they have that cover in

548
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: Harry Boyd, which they haven't always necessarily had a great

549
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: fallback option that they've got him there.

550
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: Tom Candle's slander from you, Chloe Gosh.

551
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I always thought they should have played

552
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: him a bit more, and they didn't, so I'm not

553
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: really quite sure what happened there, But yeah, I mean

554
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: there's always that now. It seems like they'd be comfortable

555
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: to play Harry Boyd if they had to, which means

556
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: maybe depending on they were on the ladder in the

557
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: latter part of the year, maybe they would.

558
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: Consider resting him or even I don't know, I'm playing

559
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: devil's advocate here.

560
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: No, I think you got a point even early, like

561
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: against Geelong, You're like, well, they're not playing a rock,

562
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: Why do I need to play a Rock like why bother.

563
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is a good point. But yeah's like

564
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: he's as you said, then percha. If he comes out

565
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: and manages to play in the community series and brains it,

566
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: then yeah, it be someone I would think about.

567
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: Maybe even if you didn't brain it, even if you

568
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: just proved just gets through it, like he plays half

569
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: in both games, then I'd be that'd be enough for me.

570
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other primos that I've listed here, but they're

571
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: both only in two percent one percent of teams. Is

572
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Nan Curvis obviously at the Tiger's five ninety four K,

573
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: and you've got Brodie Grundy as well at five seventy four.

574
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: Nan coverage hundred and ten last year, but that was

575
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: his career best by quite a decent margin, and Grundy

576
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: was it was a fun ride for his last year

577
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: on fund if that's right, average hundred and seven in

578
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: the end, but he everage only ninety over the last

579
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: nine rounds. But I mean, they're both sort of going

580
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: to be around the mark. It's just hard to find

581
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: a reason to pick him ahead of some of these

582
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: other guys.

583
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: But then make would be good and get suspended for

584
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: it yeast three games each year and Grundy is going

585
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: to do what he did last year.

586
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: Yep, that's pretty accurate. So jumping down to the underpriced

587
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: premiums that you mentioned, there's a couple of really interesting

588
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: names here, both around the same price. Tom Decooning is

589
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: five point forty seven K based on an average of

590
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: one hundred and one point five last year. Now he's

591
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: thirty six percent on So a lot of people are

592
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: buying into the hype and it's really based on you

593
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: look at his scores last year and there was a

594
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: run in the middle of the season where it talked

595
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: about Marshall. Then he's TDK went one thirty one, one

596
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: forty one, forty six, one seventy six. I'm pretty sure

597
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: Dossi had him CAPTAI that week and then one twenty eight,

598
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: So you think, man, if you plays the whole season

599
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: scores like that, you know that's an absolute steal of

600
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: a price. But obviously he got injured later in the year.

601
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: What happened after that one twenty eight? Well, yeah, I

602
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: mean after that.

603
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he didn't even get injured straight away,

604
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: did he? Because the issue was that Mark Pittner came

605
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: into the team and as soon as Pido comes in,

606
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: they're playing two rucks and he's scoring just really drops

607
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: through the floor. I think he averages about eighty eight

608
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: when Pitnet was in the side. So Chloe, you're our

609
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: Cawden expert, tell us what is Michael Vos going to

610
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: do with these two guys this year? If we could

611
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: be confident that Tdka was going to be the number

612
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: one ruckman. I think he's a very good pick in

613
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: Super Coach, but I'm scared.

614
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: I would be scared personally he's in my team, but

615
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm still scared because we all know he has the

616
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 2: potential to be a number one rock. But when you're

617
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: in your premiership window, which of course I'm going to

618
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: say Carton are in their premiership window, you do need

619
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: to have a team first mentality, and I think that

620
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: that means sometimes playing Pitney. I know that there's people

621
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: who aren't fans, but I'm not one of those. I

622
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: am a Pido fan, so I don't know. I just

623
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: think that there was a lot being said last year

624
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: that you know, Carton would win more games without Pio playing.

625
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: But I think the way that Cortin's midfield is set up,

626
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: he is pretty important and I don't think he's someone

627
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: that they would necessarily just rule out and leave on

628
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: the sidelines for a whole period of the year. Especially

629
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: there have been reports of him having a healthy preseason

630
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: for the first time in years under Rob Innes, the

631
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: new fitness boss. So I don't think it's necessarily all

632
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: signs pointing towards Tom Deconey having that number one ruck position.

633
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 4: When we were talking.

634
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 2: Before about the surety of some players roles, He's not

635
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: the kind of guy I personally don't think who's just

636
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: going to spend most of his time in the game

637
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: in game out for the whole season. So if that's

638
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: what you're looking for, I probably wouldn't expect that of him,

639
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: even though obviously he did have those amazing performances. It was,

640
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: you know, some of the best games I've seen was

641
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: when he got that one one seventy six against Geelong.

642
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 4: I think that.

643
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: Was against his brother.

644
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: I think, yeah.

645
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: But then also I guess you do have to consider

646
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: no offense to Sam Deconing, but he's not ruck. Isn't

647
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: his number one role, so you do have to consider

648
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: that as well, I guess. But he can definitely take

649
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 2: a game and change the game. But whether he can

650
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: do that on a consistent basis, I don't see that happening.

651
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: What do you guys reckon the.

652
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: Score before that run of that one thirty one forties

653
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: was twenty eight. He scored twenty eight, He had eleven hitouts,

654
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: wasn't subbed off at eleven touches. Just yeah, he's currently

655
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: in my side and I'm kind of excited by what

656
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: he can do. But by the same token, you know,

657
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: can't look like a better side with Pitto in there,

658
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: And if Deacone is playing as a second rock, I

659
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: don't really want to take part of that. And I wonder,

660
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 3: like Chloe, are they going to play like when they

661
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: come up against Gorne, do they play Pido and Dacone

662
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: and then against Geelong they just dropped Pido for team balance?

663
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: Is that I would do it?

664
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: Personally?

665
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: I would say, yes, you know, I'm not VOSSI, but

666
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: person I'm not the match community. But personally that's how

667
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: I would do it. Obviously, Deconing is still developing into

668
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: the play that everyone knows that he can be, and

669
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: he took a fair leap last year. But when you've

670
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: got those really bigger body rocks, I think it is

671
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: if you've got someone like Pitto waiting in the wing,

672
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: so I think you definitely use him in my opinion,

673
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: So I think they will.

674
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: What about Pido the forward, He kicked some goals in

675
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: the finals.

676
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kicked a couple of goals in that abysmal

677
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: breezeline to bring that a final.

678
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, cart.

679
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: After halftime, Yeah, they kicked a couple. I think they

680
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: actually gave me on the way in one of those

681
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: signs he hold up that says goals, and I was

682
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: just sitting there going, Okay, when do I get to

683
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: use this sign? So yeah, but no, he did get

684
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: a couple of goals in that game. But if they're

685
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: going to be running with Harry Charlie and Brodie Kemp

686
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: now training down in the forward line, I think that.

687
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: Would just be a bit too much high down the

688
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: forward line.

689
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that'll be a permanent role for Pido.

690
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Maybe just you know a bit of a run through

691
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: there every now and then. But we'll see how he goes.

692
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: He's kind of he's an unusual player because yeah, I

693
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: think that's that he's floating around the carp one more

694
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: games when when TDK was rocking solo, but if you

695
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: look at the actual clearance numbers, they weren't they good.

696
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: They were much better when Pido was in there because

697
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: TDK isn't necessarily a great tep ruck and he does

698
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: all these other amazing things that get his Supercoat score up.

699
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, so if you're Michael Voss and not necessarily

700
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: playing super coach me hopefully he does. But yeah, you're

701
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: probably considering some other factors as well.

702
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, if Chloe, if we got you on the match

703
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: committee and we played Tom Da Cooney as a midfielder, I.

704
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: Can see why you would say that. I can see

705
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: why you would say.

706
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: That, because if he's not very good at the ruck

707
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 3: and good at the everything else, then perhaps he can

708
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: do what Patrick Cripps does, which is not the ruck

709
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: and the everything else.

710
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, that's the whole good thing for Carlton. I

711
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: think we're going in a carton tangent. Yeah, I'm sorry,

712
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: that's my fault. But having you can put Tom to

713
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Coney in there for a while and just get that

714
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: injection of energy that we saw when he came on

715
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: in the Brisbane Final. But then you've also got Pidto

716
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: who can roll through and get those hitters to advantage,

717
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: so I think you can't have the best of both worlds.

718
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: It'll just be seeing how they balance that. And balancing

719
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: that is not something that is a positive for super Coach,

720
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: But as I said, he's in my team, so you know,

721
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: we'll see how it does.

722
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: A tape of Switch, which I'm a big fan, someone's

723
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: putting big no for Taylor Swift ones you.

724
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: Can be listening to something a bit more motivating than

725
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift.

726
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: Disagree, you can talk about that off. Yeah, that'll be

727
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: a conversation for later.

728
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: And just I don't want to go too far down

729
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole on the on the buyers sort of talk.

730
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: But just a little fact that I just keep in

731
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: the back of your mind is that obviously doesn't play

732
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: an opening round, so there's no early buys. But if

733
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: you look ahead to round twelve, and we don't want

734
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: to be worrying too much. And I think the Mid

735
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: Seas and Boys probably will be a little bit easier

736
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: to navigate this year, given there's more of them but

737
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: less teams missing each week. But around twelve is North

738
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: and Carlton. I think the Bulldogs as well, maybe Port

739
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: this we're going to have quite a lot of players.

740
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: Most people are picking players from all those teams, So

741
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: if you go with Cherry and TDK, then you're not

742
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna have anyone in the ruck on that round potentially,

743
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: So just another you know, trying to find little reasons

744
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: to pick one go over another. That's something else you

745
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: could potentially consider.

746
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: Now, is Tom Dakooning before we move on? Yes, don't know.

747
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: We've spoken about him at length, but he is also

748
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: the most the biggest talking point in the ruck this season.

749
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: Could you pick Cherry and Gorn and then picked Onconing

750
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: in the flex? Provided so say teams come out for

751
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: that Thursday night round one game Mark Pittnett is not

752
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: named Tom Mconning plays solo. Do you pick him in

753
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: the flex and then if Carlton bring back Pidow, you

754
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: can then make the trade to any other player in

755
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: the comp.

756
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Well not any another hand some numbers of the most

757
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: popular flex selections which will get those out shortly. But

758
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: I can tell you TDK is in the top say five,

759
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: I would say, so there are people who are definitely

760
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: going down that path sort of maybe get to have

761
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: a bit of a bit each way by doing it

762
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: that way.

763
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: I think if you're going guns and rookies, it's definitely doable.

764
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: I would say a little bit.

765
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

766
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: I feel like that's not how I would use the flex,

767
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: but I can see why people would. But yeah, I

768
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: have too many mid prices to facilitate that.

769
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: Amount of money.

770
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: But if you have that amount of money, I wouldn't

771
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: say that it's a bad decision.

772
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I guess the thing is, if he goes really well,

773
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: then he's pretty much your flex for the Oh then

774
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: isn't he yah be the only thing? But I guess

775
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: if he's scoring one hundred and twenty two years, that's

776
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: that's not a bad result.

777
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: So that's definitely if you're complaining about your flex scoring

778
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty or year old, then I think

779
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: you're probably doing Okay, I.

780
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Could have had Ben Patton there is was give me

781
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: some defense forward flexibility. Okay. The other guy who's priced

782
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: actually slightly cheaper than TDK, which could be a little

783
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: bit by surprise when I first looked up the prices,

784
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: and then there was a lot of hype around him

785
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: because especially if you look at his Instagram, there's been

786
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: some pretty amazing images coming around the traps but then

787
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: we get some news on him that things may have

788
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: gone pear shaped already. And I'm talking, of course about

789
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: Sean Darcy, who rack. I know you're a massive fan.

790
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: I've certainly owned him in the past. I mean, any

791
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: guy who can score him. This is back in his

792
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: breakout year twenty twenty one, he put up scores of

793
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: one fifty one, fifty six, one eighty three and one

794
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: ninety three. I think those last two were in consecutive rounds.

795
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Is someone that we definitely want to consider. But yeah,

796
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of issues going on with Big

797
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Shrek over in Frio, especially around his body. So what's

798
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: the latest and and can we think about him this year?

799
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: And super gocha?

800
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: The latest is that he is possibly going to miss

801
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: round one, which you'd think, what's a pretty big cross

802
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: through his name?

803
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: What was the latest just before that?

804
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: The latest just before that was that he was shredded.

805
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: He just put out a photo on Instagram and my god,

806
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: looked lean, looked strong, looked ripped. Signed me up was

807
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: what I was thinking. I was going to get rid

808
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: of Tom dakooning. And before I had the chance to

809
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: log in, the needs to come out that he's probably

810
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: going to miss around one and you're like, well, that

811
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: was a fun fight a couple of minutes while it lasted.

812
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: I feel like the preseason with him has been that, oh.

813
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so over, we're so back, and it's currently

814
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: so over for Sean Darcy, which is sad because he's

815
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: just fun. He's just real fun, Like footy is better

816
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: when he's playing. Well, it's just fun to watch free

817
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 3: hour better and it's just yeah, but it's a bit sad.

818
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna have to rule him out, barring more

819
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: injury updates when he's so back in all this work

820
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: that I think you went to guitar and all this

821
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: gym work obviously lost the heap of Wait, maybe you'll

822
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: have some miraculous healing and just get back from a

823
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: couple of weeks.

824
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: I think maybe some ankle surgeries.

825
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: Maybe Novak Djokovic can lend him that plate that he

826
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: had in the Australian Open that did all of his

827
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: fancy healing.

828
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: You what are your thoughts on shred Chloe?

829
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: Well, I know that you know you might look at

830
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: me strangerer saying this. I had him in my team

831
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: at one point. Actually this was a long time ago. No,

832
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: at the moment, just based on that recent news, I

833
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: was similar to Patch. I was jumping for joy, ready

834
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: to bring him in. But based on that recent news,

835
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: I just don't think I can take the gamble. Maybe

836
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys we could turn to after

837
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: a few rounds if we're full of regret, but I

838
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: don't think he'll be in my starting team though.

839
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: If you're starting Matt Flynn and the timeline of Seann

840
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: Darky getting fit lines up with a timeline of Matt

841
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Flynn making some money and then breaking down, you could

842
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: that be. I wouldn't plan for it, but like could

843
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: be a happy accident for the three people that do that.

844
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it could be yeah maybe, I

845
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: mean the durability has always been the issue with him.

846
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Is in eight seasons he's played more than nineteen games

847
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: only once, and fifteen games in twenty twenty three and

848
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: twelve last year.

849
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a hard cell.

850
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: The injury is was sort of the annoying happened at

851
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: some stage and we've we've got it early, which maybe

852
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: maybe is a good thing.

853
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: The annoying thing now is that it doesn't even mean

854
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: Luke Jackson will play well because they've been playing Liam Reedy.

855
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: They gave him a debut last year and gave him

856
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: minutes in the ruck. He didn't perform particularly off from

857
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: a supercatch perspective. He I didn't watch the games he played.

858
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 3: Maybe he's a good footballer. I don't know. The numbers

859
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: didn't go up the way we wanted to. Luke Jackson's

860
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: numbers also didn't go up the way we wanted to.

861
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: So Liam Redy, I'm sorry you're bad now much love.

862
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, like it doesn't even give like Luke Jackson

863
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: a boost in the forward line, or or you start

864
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: Jackson and swing him forward or do anything fantasy, it

865
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: doesn't really help.

866
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, last year Darcy went down in preseason and a

867
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: lot of people including me, jumped on Jackson thinking, oh,

868
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: he's going to get all these extra midfield minutes, which

869
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: sort of worked in patches. But yeah, even this year,

870
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like such a viable option in this

871
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: sort of underpriced primo bracket. A couple of others that

872
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: some people are maybe going for a pod five percent ownership.

873
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 1: Darcy Cameron Collingwood improved his average last year from ninety

874
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: two to one oh five, which I sort of missed

875
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: and in the last seven games average one hundred and

876
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: twenty six. So ken score and Lloyd Meeki mentioned as

877
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: well five poin fifty seven k He's five percent owned again,

878
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: massive improval last year went from sixty four to one

879
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: oh three average. Kind of crazy that he didn't play

880
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: in the first two rounds last year they went with

881
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: Ned Reeves as the number one ruck, but obviously ditched

882
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: that idea pretty quickly. And yeah, Meek was pretty good

883
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of you made a lot of money

884
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: for people who got on at the right time. But yeah,

885
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not really looking at either of those

886
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: as potential starting options. Am I missing something there?

887
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Personally? I do actually like both the options, but no,

888
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: not for starting options, just because of the top end

889
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: time that we've already discussed. I think that I'm probably

890
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: putting my eggs in their basket. But hey, you know,

891
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: if you are looking for a pod, interesting, But as

892
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: I've said already, I'm not really looking for a pod

893
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: in my rock line.

894
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: What about you?

895
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Patch, No, I think they're great options in your draft.

896
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: I think kind of know what you're going to get

897
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: with them, But Yeah, as you said, Clothe, the upside's

898
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: not quite there, so I'm not looking. If they're one

899
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: hundred grand cheaper then absolutely, but they're not so yeah,

900
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: fair enough.

901
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: So going down to around that price bracket, which is

902
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: the next category mid prices, and I mean looking in

903
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: the sort of three four hundred range, is not a

904
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: lot to consider. I don't think there's two three percent ownership.

905
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: People were having a dabble with someone like a Jordan's

906
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Sweet or a Nick Brian or Toby Conway, but yeah,

907
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't think this is the year for those sort

908
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: of guys. I mean, Nick Brian played five games last year.

909
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: Now it looks like he might share the ruck with

910
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Sam Draper is based on what we're hearing out of preseason. Yeah,

911
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: who knows. And Toby Comway, I mean, I don't know

912
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: what is your long doing in the record. He didn't

913
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: play in their match him last week, so I'm not

914
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: even sure if he's injured.

915
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: I think he is injured again.

916
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think rehabbing at ree Stanley's farm, grazing

917
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: out the back.

918
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: But then we get down into the Chambeys, we're just

919
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: brussing it.

920
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: I don't mind Jordan.

921
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Sweet really yeah, sorry, let's give you some time to

922
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: talk about Jordan's week. Yeah.

923
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: I think because he's had an appearance on the Key

924
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: League pod the other week and he spoke about, you

925
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: know the fact that he's you know, we didn't speak

926
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: so much about this, but you know, he's he's very

927
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: much been a center square, center bounds ruck. When you're

928
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: rooted to the middle of the ground, you don't really

929
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: go elsewhere. Had enough tall people, tall timber at either

930
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: end that he didn't really go too far. But I

931
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: think he's been given a bit more license this year

932
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: to go around and collect a bit more of the

933
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: ball and do a bit more. So I think there

934
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: might be you know, maybe more for a draft perspective,

935
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: that there's more interest. But I don't think he's as

936
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: silly an option as he might see him. I think

937
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: there is there's certainly a lot of upside there, and

938
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: having her drove and talk about you know, you go

939
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: for the guys with the upside and then you you

940
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: know the fact that you've got those extra points, You've

941
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: got that extra you know, one hundred and fifty k

942
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: if you start sweet over say Cherry, and if sweet

943
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: average one hundred and five. Then you know you can

944
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: try and make up the points elsewhere by going you know,

945
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: you know, going up somewhere else. So I think I

946
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: think there's there will be some people that will try

947
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Jordan Sweet and they'll go pretty well early possibly, but

948
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm certainly not not brave enough to take that leap.

949
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: We think he is the number one man there with

950
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: the taken over from Van Merritt. You sort of sorry

951
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: if Van Merritt marriage time machine the cousin or yes,

952
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: but that's he sort of fill off the rightdiar last year.

953
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: But getting down to the cheapest section, and we've been

954
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: a bit of time because there is one player who

955
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: is in a lot of teams, well twenty four percent,

956
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: and that is Matt Flynn, whose name has been mentioned already,

957
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: priced at a score of around fifty. After playing just

958
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: four games last year in the preseason, his hamstring detached

959
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: from the knee. Then he came back in round twelve.

960
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor. Is that bad?

961
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound great.

962
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: You're supposed to have your hamstrings attached.

963
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Then he came back. Then he did an ankle

964
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: injury sort of of interest that the last five games

965
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: he was available but just played in the waffle. So

966
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: that's really the concern with him. I think, you know,

967
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: the theory is he's come across from GWS to be

968
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: there ruckman, then he got injured, so you know, wipeout

969
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: last year and this year he walks in becomes a

970
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: number one ruck. When he was at g WS, he

971
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: scores were not bad, like scored in the eighties, sort

972
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: of around getting up towards the ninety market. If you

973
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: can produce that at that price, you know, that's a

974
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: fantastic result. The question is his body alright. There was

975
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of an injury scared during the preseason,

976
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: turned it it was just a blister, I think, so

977
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: hopefully that's okay. But does he get that number one

978
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: ruck spot because BJ Williams is still there When he

979
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: played last year, they actually played both of them, and

980
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: both I think Flynn had the majority of rock time,

981
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: but BJ did get some time in the ruck as well,

982
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: so he wasn't sort of totally solo rucking. And he

983
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: scored in those games eighty one, sixty and sixty before

984
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: getting injured in the fourth game. So yeah, that's a

985
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: slight concern. And then you know, does he even get

986
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: that number one rock spot either, because it's apparently it's

987
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: a pretty year. You know, they're still bailing it out

988
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: in preseason to see who gets it. So I guess

989
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: it's really hopefully in the practice matches we'll get an

990
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: idea of actually who gets that number one rock spot

991
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: and what Flynn's going to do for us this year.

992
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: But you know, potentially a massive money maker in Supercoach.

993
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: I know he's a good option for flex people going

994
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: down that road, and some people even brave enough to

995
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: start him in art too. But Pats thoughts on Mattie Flynn,

996
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Have you got him at the moment?

997
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: I don't, but I think the more I'm thinking about it,

998
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not really touching and tinkering with my

999
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: team too much. You know, there's not a lot of

1000
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: new info we're getting before the practice games at this

1001
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: stage that I'm really taking to heart. But I think

1002
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: if we see matt Flynn come out, and even if

1003
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: he's playing sixty forty ruck with Bailey Williams, I think

1004
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: there's there's enough there for him to, you know, to

1005
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: score you know, maybe average ninety, and that is huge

1006
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: for a guy averaging priced at two hundred and sixty one.

1007
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: You know, we'll make your hippy cash. We'll give you

1008
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: like a bubble of points going along. But I do

1009
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: need to see him be healthy all the way around

1010
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: one and then also have a contingency plan. And I

1011
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: think that contingency plan is that you have to pick

1012
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: him in your flex. I think if you're picking him

1013
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: at R two you are insane. You just can't unless

1014
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: you've all You've got another rock, You've got tom dcone

1015
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: in your flex. Just you need to You need to

1016
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: have that flexibility and have an extra plan with Matt Flynn,

1017
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: because I'm sure he's a lovely human being, but he

1018
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: I can't trust his body when I'm trying to chase

1019
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars that I'm not actually allowed to win.

1020
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: But that's beside the point. Yeah, I don't know anyone

1021
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: else feel differently.

1022
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: No, I tend to agree a flex would be the

1023
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: way to go for me. I don't think I've said before,

1024
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: and I think I'd be willing to take the risk

1025
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: aut R two just because there's just so there's kind

1026
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: of three things that play. You've got the role issue,

1027
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: You've got the durability issue, but then you've got such

1028
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: a great price point, with such a great potential to

1029
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: score and make money.

1030
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: Then yeah, it's just what you say.

1031
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Even if that does happen, even if all the stars aligned,

1032
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: then how long does that realistically last for because then

1033
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: the durability comes back into play. Yeah, I'm just I

1034
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: don't really have the answers to that yet. Obviously we've

1035
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: still got the preseason games.

1036
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: But I know West Coast has spoken before about the

1037
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: fact that they don't want Bailey Rooms to be a

1038
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: number one Ruck. They see him as a forward that

1039
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: will then chop out and he's just been forced to

1040
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: play number one ruck last few years with the Nicknapp

1041
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: obviously wasn't fit and then Flynn last year disappeared. But

1042
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: they've got a new coach now, so maybe they maybe

1043
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: they see it differently. Maybe they're doing it fifty split.

1044
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: Maybe it is going to be a a Flynn gets

1045
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: full time ruck. We just kind of I think we're

1046
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: just gonna see it. But I'd be pretty confident the

1047
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: role is there. It's the body that's my really big concern.

1048
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the worry with like you said, if you

1049
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: put him inn R two and he breaks down in

1050
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: round three and he's gone up to three hundred thousand,

1051
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: and then you know, what do you do? It can

1052
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: take a few trades a few weeks to sort of

1053
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: get out of that situation. In a flex might help

1054
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, so I'm definitely not brave

1055
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: enough to start him there. I think that is taking

1056
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: a huge risk. But he is in my flex spot

1057
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: at the moment. But as we say, just we really

1058
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: need to see it in the preseason games, which aren't

1059
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: far away now, and hopefully that'll give us a bit

1060
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: more confidence exactly what he's going to do. I mean,

1061
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: the other names that people might consider down there, if

1062
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: you're going with a similar theory, and even if on

1063
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: the bench in the ruck at the last section, we're

1064
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: looking at cheapies. We talked about Leam ready already. So

1065
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: he played the last two rounds for Frio last year.

1066
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: He's still one hundred and thirty two grand because he

1067
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: scored fifty three and twenty nine. So with us injured,

1068
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: maybe he comes into the frame again. But you're not

1069
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: a huge amount of scoring potential, but potentially the bench option,

1070
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: I guess. Then we've got Tom Simms from Richmon is

1071
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: twenty two percent owned. I think that's just because he's

1072
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: the cheapest ruck forward, so I don't expect him to play.

1073
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: But is there value this year? And you know, maybe

1074
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: it's not as valuable picking a ruck forward loop on

1075
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: the bench given that we have flex now, so you know,

1076
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: you sort of don't need that contingency plan in the

1077
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: best twenty two scoring means that you know, if Max

1078
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Gorn does miss a week at some stage, then hopefully

1079
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: you've just got your flex player and you still get

1080
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: twenty two scorers on the field. So probably less relevant

1081
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: this year, but you know, the extra flexibility can always

1082
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: always help. And you know, trying to get the most

1083
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: scorers on field to get your best scores is going

1084
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: to be important as well, so that that's an option

1085
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: that you could consider. And then the other one, of

1086
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: course that we've touched on is Harry Boyd. So he's

1087
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: coming in as an SSP, signing at the Saints ninety

1088
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: nine one hundred dollars. He's already owned by forty four

1089
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: percent of coaches. I guess most people have him at

1090
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: our three. That's where I've got him. But maybe you're

1091
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: brave enough they are two or the flex option, But

1092
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: given what Joey said about about Roland Marshall, I don't

1093
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: think he's I mean, I can't see the Saints playing

1094
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Boyd is a number one ruck and Marshal at full forward,

1095
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: though there was some talk that they might do that.

1096
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, even watching some of their preseason stuff,

1097
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: Max King's looking pretty good, so I don't really see

1098
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: them doing that. I think Marshall, you know, he's really

1099
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: a great option if they need him. It's you know,

1100
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: train him down there and he can go forward if

1101
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: they need him. But I don't see them lining up

1102
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: that way. But again, in practice matches might tell us

1103
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: a little bit. Although broh it's probably not going to play,

1104
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: so they probably went. But just on Boyd his numbers.

1105
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: He averaged one hundred and fifty eight super Coach points

1106
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: in the sandfl last year, won the McGary Battle. His

1107
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: best game was against South Adelaide, where he's caored two

1108
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six points.

1109
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: Is that a lot?

1110
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: Is quite a bit?

1111
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: Is that a large? That's beyond my threshold of numbers.

1112
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: I haven't learned that one yet.

1113
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: And that gave me had thirty one disposals, twenty six

1114
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: contested positions, twenty hitouts to advantage in sixteen clearances. So

1115
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: but we have seen another name that I'm noticing just

1116
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: coming late onto the run sheet, someone who had some

1117
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: amazing numbers in the sandfle didn't quite translate them to AFL.

1118
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: But is he someone we should be thinking about as well,

1119
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: perhaps in the sort of under two hundred k bracket

1120
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: Darcy Fort He obviously played in the Grand Final with

1121
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: macnooney injured. So I mean, boys, the obvious one. I

1122
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: think just to stick on your bench, you don't get

1123
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: if he plays, we don't get a loop in round one,

1124
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: potentially make the captaincy a little bit more tricky just

1125
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: having to go with a straight out captain. But if

1126
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: you've got a guy who can potentially score, and even

1127
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: if he's not playing around one, you think you come

1128
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: in and get a chance at some stage sitting on

1129
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: the bench in the rock. That's a pretty easy pick,

1130
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: isn't it, Harry Boyd?

1131
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: I do have in my R three. I'm probably the

1132
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: same as you at this point. I wouldn't start him

1133
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: on the field, especially with the rumor has it that

1134
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: Marshall would be playing round one. But I don't see

1135
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: I personally also don't see Marshall playing as a full

1136
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: time forward. If anything, he would go down there for

1137
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of arrest and come back. I definitely

1138
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: think the boyd would be good, But when you've got

1139
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: someone like Rowan Marshall, I don't see the benefit of

1140
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: moving him into a more permanent forward role. Maybe I'm

1141
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: just missing something, but I would stick him in our

1142
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: three and leave him make some cash, hopefully, and that

1143
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: will probably be our best option for him.

1144
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 4: And then, I mean that would be the best option.

1145
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: The best option would be he'd whip out a two

1146
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six the day he had him on

1147
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: the field.

1148
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: So I was going to say that we would all

1149
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: have him on the bench that we for sure. Yeah, agreeable, frustrating,

1150
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: but be good for money.

1151
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's discussion to be had,

1152
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: and I think, you know, we get closer. We see

1153
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: some preseason games about whether or not you wanted a

1154
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: non playing R three. You know now that we have

1155
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: flex if you're starting, you know, you're starting Matt Flynn,

1156
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: then maybe you don't need you can't afford to have

1157
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: that loophole. That way, you can actually make captains early

1158
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: on or if you know, we use it to make

1159
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: as much cash as we possibly can. But I think

1160
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: that's discussion for another time. Whether or not you know

1161
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: you want a non playing player lack a Sims or

1162
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: if Redi's not playing, then someone like him as well?

1163
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: Could I just jump in quickly? Just one more thing

1164
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: about Harry Boyd. We talk about having a non playing

1165
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: R three. You know, with our super coach hats on,

1166
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: we love mature age selections, we love SSP selections. Just

1167
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: being Devil's advocate, do we think that potentially, once mar

1168
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: he's back and fully fit and there's no more question marks,

1169
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: do we think the Boyd will definitely be in their

1170
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: starting team week to week? Obviously we saw the Tom

1171
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, That's what I was about to say. So

1172
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: are we just trying to be really wishful and thinking, Look,

1173
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: this guy's scored great in the Sad Fall, He's only

1174
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: ninety nine K get him in and maybe potentially.

1175
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 4: Looking too far into his spot in the lineup? Maybe?

1176
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you don't add. I mean, there are

1177
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: some people that were saying when he got picked up that, oh,

1178
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: you don't pick a twenty six year old mature age

1179
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: ruck to play him in the Vffowl and it's like, no,

1180
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: that's exactly what a lot of clubs do all the time,

1181
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: Like you look at Tom Campbell's made a career out

1182
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: of it.

1183
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more just that contingency option exactly.

1184
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: Potentially, maybe that is what he's there for, and we

1185
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: just are trying to see it in the light that

1186
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: we want to see it. I'm always bit mindful of that.

1187
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: I still think he'll be great and you currentally go

1188
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 2: wrong with R three. It would maybe even be better

1189
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: if he scored some points early and then became a

1190
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: bit of a loop.

1191
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: But it's, you know, just something to float and I

1192
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 4: did to think about.

1193
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and then Braden Crossley as well is another

1194
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 3: one that might fit into that mold if he gets

1195
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: picked up by the dogs. But that's that's a conversation

1196
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: for another day.

1197
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: To Darcy Ford is what, Yeah, I just want.

1198
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: Some Darcy fot content because that's what people want. Fifty

1199
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: minutes into a Supercoach pod, darsis for it's one ninety k.

1200
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: If Bigo isn't fit and ready to go. He scored

1201
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: sixty eight in the Grand Final. He's scored seventy in

1202
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: round seven, when Oscar Mcinernie missed. He scored thirty one

1203
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: with Oscar Macinhernie in round three. There's a hole in

1204
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 3: that side with Joe Danaher leaving. I know they've bought

1205
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: in Sam Day to maybe fill that role, but I

1206
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: think it's just worth noting that. If you know, if

1207
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: round one or round zero rolls around, we see Darcy

1208
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: Fort lining up without Omac and Omas out for a while,

1209
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: you might consider him if they're playing the pair of them.

1210
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: Do not pick Darcy Ford. Do not go into that

1211
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: trap of oh, he's a cheap ruck and he's the

1212
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 3: only cheap ruck playing, we might as well pick him.

1213
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: He could lose cash at one ninety k if he's

1214
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: playing alongside O mak So. I just thought i'd mention

1215
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: him as a name that stood out to me when

1216
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: I picked my first team and he was in it,

1217
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: and then I very quickly went, wait a second.

1218
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 4: They do have Lincoln McCarthy coming back though as well.

1219
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, ruckman, Yeah.

1220
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean, if we're talking about it, Ford is

1221
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: only going to get a game to be the backup

1222
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: forward now that Joe Danaho is not there.

1223
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: Who knows what they're going to do. But yeah, I

1224
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: just thought i'd floated him. People see the green dot

1225
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 3: in round one and go oh, let's pick him. Maybe

1226
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: just yeah, anyway, wasn't the name I thought about. So yeah,

1227
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: Worth mentioned for sure. But that's everyone that I've got

1228
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: on the rucks. I mean, we've talked about most of them.

1229
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: I think I feel like there aren't many that we haven't. Yes,

1230
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: we talked about less in the in the draft discussion

1231
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 3: of than we have in the class.

1232
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: Samson Royan any thoughts, No big draft apparently he's at

1233
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: an okay preseason.

1234
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: But I'll stop it.

1235
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: No, we'll leave it there. Thank you guys for jumping on.

1236
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening. More positions coming, what have we

1237
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: got some differend potentially forwards to talk about, so plenty

1238
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: more and obviously the drafted as well. So heabes coming

1239
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: on your feet. As I said on here or on

1240
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: code Supports YouTube a great place to go and get

1241
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: all your super coach content this year. But thanks everybody.

1242
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: We'll talk to again.

1243
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: So