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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast.

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Speaker 2: It has become one of the nation's most gripping murder mysteries.

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Speaker 2: And today we find out the fate of Chris Dawson

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Speaker 2: at ten am, no Jury. And this is off the

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Speaker 2: popularity of the teacher's podcast No Jury. It comes solely

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Speaker 2: down to one judge. It is unbelievable. One man who's

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Speaker 2: been covering this the whole time. Channel seven News reporter

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Speaker 2: Chris Reason reso, I can only imagine today what Lynette

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Speaker 2: Dawson's family is going through in the sleepless night they

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Speaker 2: would have had last night. Reso.

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Speaker 1: Oh, guys, good morning to you. They've been waiting for

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Speaker 1: this moment for so long, now four decades, waiting for

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Speaker 1: a decision, a verdict. This morning, as we've just seen,

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Speaker 1: I can see some breaking news. Chris Dawson has just

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Speaker 1: walked in with his lawyer Greg Walsh and big media packers.

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Speaker 1: They went into the Supreme Court hit down in the

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Speaker 1: center of the city. Of course, it's the other side

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Speaker 1: as well, Dawson waiting to hear that verdict and see

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Speaker 1: what is faith will be. Will he be acquitted or

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Speaker 1: will he be convicted?

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Speaker 3: That's one of those things. We've heard the podcast, we've

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Speaker 3: seen the special. Is there enough evidence to convince him

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Speaker 3: whether he's guilty or not? What has been or if

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Speaker 3: any is the new evidence that's been presented in court?

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Speaker 3: Would you know?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's been an extensive trial, guy, I've mean ten

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Speaker 1: weeks of evidence and legal argument over this, and then

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Speaker 1: seven weeks of deliberations for the judge and they've gone

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Speaker 1: through absolutely everything that was left. But you're right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't much new evidence at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there was less evidence obviously than there was

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Speaker 1: years ago. And that was one of the big problems

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Speaker 1: with this case. We've got missing evidence of case bars

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Speaker 1: that have been thrown away by the police after scrapped investigations,

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Speaker 1: and then of course deteriorating memories of the witnesses, everybody

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Speaker 1: conflicting what they thought they saw, heard and interpreted from

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Speaker 1: all those years ago. It was a really difficult case

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Speaker 1: for the prosecutors and the defense to have to navigate

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Speaker 1: their ways this one. So that's what's going to be

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Speaker 1: so interesting. I mean, you've got to remember, all of

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Speaker 1: it is circumstantial. There is nobody, there is no weapon,

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Speaker 1: there are so few legitimate clues and conviction convictionable pieces

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Speaker 1: of evidence that can point towards an easy solution for

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Speaker 1: the prosecutors here. It's not been It's not that it's

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Speaker 1: never been done. We've seen it with Azariah Chamberlain, we've

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Speaker 1: seen it with Kelly Lane. You know that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to have a body to get a conviction, but

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Speaker 1: it's so much harder for their prosecution to get it.

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Speaker 1: So that is one of the big question marks over today.

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Speaker 3: A huge call, wouldn't it a big one?

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Speaker 2: No reason is reason is that you know what two

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Speaker 2: daughters and Lynette Dawson love those two daughters. She's she's missing,

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Speaker 2: she's gone. No one's heard from Lynett Dawson, so she's

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Speaker 2: not with us anymore. The two daughter do you know

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Speaker 2: if they're going to attend today?

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Speaker 1: It probably won't. We saw Chanelle on Sunday visiting her

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Speaker 1: dad up and the Sunshine Coast in Queensland. We've got

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Speaker 1: some pictures of that much. And don't forget she could

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Speaker 1: possibly have been visiting knowing it's the last time she

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Speaker 1: will see him as a free man. But if he

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Speaker 1: goes in today and doesn't come out, that is it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is old, seventy four, he's frail. Who

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Speaker 1: knows what the sentence will be. There is a chance

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Speaker 1: that it could be his last days alive. They could

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Speaker 1: be spent inside prison. So she was saying farewell for him.

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Speaker 1: We don't think the other one is going to turn

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Speaker 1: up here, know, but two of them have tried to

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Speaker 1: stay pretty low key.

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Speaker 2: Riezo.

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Speaker 3: When we're in a situation like this because the influence

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Speaker 3: of the public and you don't have a jury, does

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Speaker 3: it come down to one man? I mean, obviously they

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Speaker 3: speak with the merry men. But is the magistrate the

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Speaker 3: only one that will be making that call?

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Speaker 1: Yep? Absolutely. The Supreme Court Justice Ian Harrison has made

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Speaker 1: this deliberately a one judge trial because because the podcast

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Speaker 1: was so spectacularly successful, has been downloaded some sixty three

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Speaker 1: million times, and so many people as a result of

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Speaker 1: that podcast have got what you would call a prejudice view,

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Speaker 1: and they would have been so hard to find an

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Speaker 1: unprejudiced jurist. The judge said, nope, I'll hear this alone

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Speaker 1: without the emotion. I'll hear it legally. Judges, of course,

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Speaker 1: experts decades in hearing things partially and making their own call.

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Speaker 1: So that's why it all comes down to what justice

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Speaker 1: Hasson will deliver today. We'll find out shortly. I mean

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Speaker 1: his judgment will be potentially hundreds of pages long. I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that he gives a verdict the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: reading it a judgment, not the end. Again here for

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Speaker 1: a frowse, But we will find out today what the

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Speaker 1: fate of this case is.

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Speaker 3: Is there a time on it Rizo when it's meant

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Speaker 3: to be handed down ten o'clock, So.

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Speaker 1: It will all be meeting then here at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: All of the players will be inside. The family of

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Speaker 1: Lynette Dawson, all wearing pink today in support of We

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet from one of them on the weekend

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Speaker 1: saying that they were hoping for answers finally to come

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Speaker 1: their way. As you said right at the beginning, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is there has been a long, long wait for them,

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Speaker 1: and they're hoping for what they call justice. But as

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Speaker 1: Dawson says, he's hoping for the truth as well. So

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Speaker 1: whose side will the judge come down on? My bet

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Speaker 1: is it'll be on Dawson's. I just can't see how

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Speaker 1: the judge is going to call it in favor of

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Speaker 1: against Chris Dawson, but we will soon find out.

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Speaker 3: Extraordinary case, we know.

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Speaker 2: How do I know how busy you are? Raise Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for your time, sir, No problem

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