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Speaker 1: Appoche production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle Coummons and in this episode I speak with Deslie Robinson,

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Speaker 2: aka the Destroyer, one of the world's toughest women in boxing.

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Speaker 3: Mum and dad were not keen on it, and back then,

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Speaker 3: you know, girls don't box, and me being me, I

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Speaker 3: was like, I've got a box and if someone says no,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well I'm doing that. I was moving house,

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Speaker 3: fractured foot, three kids, and fight camp for a world

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Speaker 3: titled fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I had a moon.

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Speaker 3: I would take it off if I had like media

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. Just walk around on a broken foot.

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Speaker 3: I want blood and I want to hurt. I want

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Speaker 3: to see them drop, and I want to really take

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Speaker 3: their soul, like this is my territory, like get out.

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Speaker 1: So and then after the fight, I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I was really that person.

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Speaker 2: Deslie Robinson, thank you for coming back on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're back.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time since you've been seen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: were you will champion last time?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I was the Intercontinental, the IBF Intercontinental champ which is

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Speaker 3: just below. It's pretty much your ticket to obviously qualify

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Speaker 3: and fight for the world titles, So very similar belt,

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Speaker 3: but it's just gone instead of the circles, like it's.

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Speaker 1: Like a little triangle.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and I remember when we last spoke is

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Speaker 3: you said I'll see you when you're the word champ.

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Speaker 2: Now, so you came back on so you're IBF WBO

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Speaker 2: World middleweight champion. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wow, it's all happening. Everything has changed. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 4: How's it changed for you since we last spoke?

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Speaker 3: Crazy, Like, I was at the hotel at the front

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Speaker 3: waiting for an uber and a guy came up to

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Speaker 3: me and he's like, oh, hello, and you just started chatting.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, you're a boxer and I've seen

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Speaker 3: you before and then yeah, we've just connected obviously. Then

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Speaker 3: and he's like, I know this person that you might

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Speaker 3: be interested in connecting with as a sponsor.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell? Like they said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: people just want to jump on board team. That's just cool.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: So it's very everything has like my whole life has

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Speaker 3: changed really, so yeah, we've worked hard.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 2: But I want I want to ask you a bit

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Speaker 2: before we get into all the secretty and so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go through a refresher with you.

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Speaker 4: What do you like to be called more with your name?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's because I've seen this. It's got the destroyer or.

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Speaker 3: Lady D, Lady D. I like, so lady D was

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Speaker 3: an original sort of name. Stupo gave it to me

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Speaker 3: and said, oh, lady D, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: But then I'm like, I don't know. It kind of

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Speaker 1: Something.

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Speaker 4: I actually thought of something else.

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Speaker 3: Something else, Okay, I thought of something else to destroy it.

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Speaker 1: To me, you know, I'm a bit more of a destroyer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I look at you.

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Speaker 3: But then I'm like, you know, keep that reputation. Then

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Speaker 3: I've got to constantly be the destroyer, which is good,

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Speaker 3: which is what I do to me when you they

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Speaker 3: call out you the destroyer. Yeah, it puts it puts

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well lady D.

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Speaker 4: To mean it's like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like anyways, do a recap on you just

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Speaker 5: for all time?

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Speaker 2: Seek So yeah, growing up and I like that you

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Speaker 2: went through a few difficult times growing up, But to

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Speaker 2: where you are now. Before we get into dough, is

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Speaker 2: it true that you started boxing to keep fit?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, boxing, yeah to tovisly keep fit.

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Speaker 3: I was doing athletics and then yeah, I thought I

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Speaker 1: And back then there was no girls at forward.

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Speaker 3: It was very you know, girls don't box, and naturally,

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, obviously trained and I trained at mourn Bar,

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Speaker 3: So I don't give my hometown enough shout outs, so

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Speaker 3: So wet you did want to be in there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was really good at high jump, running,

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Speaker 3: triple jump, all of it. So I was always like

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Speaker 3: Obviously growing up we was you know, one of three kids,

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Speaker 3: to go with the athletics to like the AIS or

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Speaker 1: And I just couldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: I just cost too much money, like yeah, and then

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Speaker 3: I sort of said I'll do rugby league and did

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Speaker 3: that and excelled in that and you know, broke records

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Speaker 3: in that, and yeah, I've got sort of all every

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Speaker 3: remember by my name's on shields everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool.

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Speaker 3: So I went back there not long ago and it

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Speaker 1: So funny. But yeah, nothing's really changed.

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Speaker 4: There, so it's, yeah, what was your first job?

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Speaker 3: I think I was thirteen and I was a bit

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Speaker 3: too young to work, but I still worked Domino's Pizza,

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Speaker 3: making the base. But it was pretty cool because there

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Speaker 1: It was well.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah a dough banger.

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Speaker 4: I was a do banger.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't sound too much, but maybe it goes with the destroyer.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: And then I worked in the gym. I got a

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so you've always been into fitness then yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think I did my PT course when I

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Speaker 2: So when did you start to take it seriously with

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Speaker 2: going to do it. I'm going to take fourteen.

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Speaker 3: I was like I went to training and and like,

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Speaker 3: at training there were some scary men there. Like I

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Speaker 3: Some were biking somewhere, you know, like and you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so and like the great people like really great.

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Speaker 4: Were you the only female in that town who was

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Speaker 3: There was one older one who went to school with

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Speaker 3: my sister Amy, but she did really well and we

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Speaker 2: Have missed off. Back then, it was hard for a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was naturally like, you know, I grew

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Speaker 1: And then I was in there and I was like, right, I'm.

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Speaker 3: And like I get asked, you know, who's the person

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Speaker 3: was the closest I've ever been to being knocked out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, it just turned into the more and

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Speaker 2: So when did you're trying to say, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: we're going to get a fight for.

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Speaker 1: You pretty much straight away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my coach was hard to get an appointment. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I'm quite tall, and I think I would have

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Speaker 3: been weighing seventy kilos as a fourteen year old because

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Speaker 3: I was tall, you know, always had a six pack

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Speaker 3: and whatnot. You were seventy kilos at fourteen. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: fox just solid. Like, yeah, it's crazy because.

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Speaker 4: I've seen that. I've seen your first fight. You are

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Speaker 4: like heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to the first one.

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Speaker 4: It was New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I went upper weight division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so always a middleweight, but I went up and

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Speaker 3: foot in a heavy division.

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Speaker 4: Hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hard.

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Speaker 3: So it's easy to put crap weight on, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, eat young food.

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Speaker 1: You can put weight on really easy.

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Speaker 3: But to put it on muscle wise and still be

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Speaker 3: fit and maintain that, Like, I felt the difference in

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Speaker 3: the ring, Like I was sculling water, trying to really

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Speaker 3: fill up eating food to be heavy, you know, before weigh.

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Speaker 1: In, and I still just couldn't get my weight up. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but now I'm probably a heavyweight now.

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Speaker 4: When your first flight came along, were you nervous? Were

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Speaker 1: I just want to I wanted to get in there.

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Speaker 3: And so you know my parents that you know, like

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Speaker 3: And back then, I feel back then, the bike you

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Speaker 1: But I still wanted to be tough.

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Speaker 3: So I naturally was like, yeah, you know this this lady,

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Speaker 1: Like little mauler. But yeah, it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And it was so good, and because they were

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Speaker 3: So quite heavy, and I'd always struggled to like I

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Speaker 3: Well over my head. Yeah, and I didn't have the

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Speaker 4: Find an opponent was it hard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it is because you're in that middle

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Speaker 2: So how many fights did you have before December twenty

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Speaker 3: I came to Melbourne and for like because we ran

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Speaker 3: I was still recovering and fought and tried it for

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Speaker 3: So yeah, went to Brisye and yeah, me and my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me when when you actually got it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, god, so that was the IBF World title. I

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Speaker 3: we got a chance. I don't know how it didn't

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Speaker 3: And then I had the moonboot right up until obviously

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Speaker 3: I was very high. I wasn't sitting because I couldn't

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00:18:10,921 --> 00:18:13,680
Speaker 3: put pressure on it. And yeah, obviously with your footers

440
00:18:13,681 --> 00:18:16,041
Speaker 3: on the outside, so the balance was a bit like oh,

441
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,961
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was a good fight, and yeah, I'd

442
00:18:19,001 --> 00:18:19,681
Speaker 3: love to do it again.

443
00:18:21,041 --> 00:18:24,120
Speaker 4: How feel when I like it? You know what I mean?

444
00:18:24,281 --> 00:18:25,321
Speaker 1: Actually for you?

445
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,160
Speaker 3: Then it didn't really feel like it was really good

446
00:18:29,201 --> 00:18:31,880
Speaker 3: because it's such a big build up, and I think

447
00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:35,801
Speaker 3: I never let myself enjoy things. So if I get

448
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,041
Speaker 3: something really really nice, it gets done for me. I

449
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,001
Speaker 3: don't let myself enjoy it, you know what I mean, Like,

450
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,321
Speaker 3: and it's always like I don't know what it is.

451
00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,881
Speaker 3: But I had the world title and I was like, yeah,

452
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,721
Speaker 3: this is fucking good.

453
00:18:46,801 --> 00:18:47,761
Speaker 1: And and I was like, and it was.

454
00:18:47,761 --> 00:18:49,961
Speaker 3: Good to get redemption with my opponent because then there's

455
00:18:49,961 --> 00:18:52,480
Speaker 3: a bit of beef there and I was just like, yes,

456
00:18:52,561 --> 00:18:54,640
Speaker 3: we're back, we're on, you know, because she'd beaten me

457
00:18:55,281 --> 00:18:58,121
Speaker 3: previously and it was like a crap decision. So that's

458
00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:00,641
Speaker 3: sort of tool with the boxing community in half. But yeah,

459
00:19:00,721 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 3: so I had it and I sort of sat, like

460
00:19:02,681 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 3: got back to the hotel after that night and I

461
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,640
Speaker 3: didn't go out or anything, and I was just pretty

462
00:19:07,681 --> 00:19:09,521
Speaker 3: I was just exhausted to like, I think, to the

463
00:19:09,561 --> 00:19:12,521
Speaker 3: camp the foot and I sort of was like, oh,

464
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,160
Speaker 3: this this is you know, this is it like all

465
00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 3: this and you know, so what now to you?

466
00:19:17,561 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't even let myself enjoy it.

467
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 3: So from then I sort of thought, you know what,

468
00:19:22,921 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have fun now in my life, and like,

469
00:19:25,761 --> 00:19:28,001
Speaker 3: you're allowed to be happy, You're allowed to enjoy things.

470
00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:31,241
Speaker 3: And I don't know whether it's like like that whole

471
00:19:31,281 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 3: like not letting yourself enjoy it comes from, you know,

472
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,001
Speaker 3: if you've been with a partner and like I'd been

473
00:19:36,001 --> 00:19:36,841
Speaker 3: with a partner and it was.

474
00:19:36,761 --> 00:19:38,721
Speaker 1: All about him, everything was about him. I was allowed

475
00:19:38,721 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 1: to do anything.

476
00:19:39,281 --> 00:19:42,921
Speaker 3: So maybe that's why I'm like, So now I'm like, man,

477
00:19:43,001 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm free and I'm happy and I'm living my best life.

478
00:19:47,481 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, so now I'm rather enjoying the belts and

479
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,201
Speaker 3: I feel like the world chap now, which is good.

480
00:19:54,241 --> 00:19:56,441
Speaker 2: The things changed for you after after you want that belt,

481
00:19:56,481 --> 00:19:58,681
Speaker 2: did you feel like, Okay, now I'm going to start

482
00:19:58,681 --> 00:20:01,721
Speaker 2: picking people out who I want to fight, Sponsors start

483
00:20:01,761 --> 00:20:02,201
Speaker 2: coming in.

484
00:20:02,561 --> 00:20:04,641
Speaker 4: Yeah you felt like you were a real fighter.

485
00:20:04,321 --> 00:20:05,041
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, dude.

486
00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,441
Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously just being noticed too, and I think, yeah,

487
00:20:08,481 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 3: we're in a world where it's everything is about the

488
00:20:10,761 --> 00:20:13,721
Speaker 3: social side of things as well and networking and all

489
00:20:13,761 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. So yeah, like I'm going to

490
00:20:15,961 --> 00:20:18,401
Speaker 3: a lot more events now when people should recognize you more.

491
00:20:18,481 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 4: And it sort of was changing it Did it change it?

492
00:20:21,201 --> 00:20:24,561
Speaker 1: Changed me. Nah, I'm still the same, not at all.

493
00:20:26,801 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: That's what everyone said. They They're like, You're still the

494
00:20:30,001 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: same as what you've always been. I was like, I

495
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: will always be me.

496
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,321
Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously, if I've got to go somewhere

497
00:20:37,321 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: and I've got to a part of very polite and whatnot,

498
00:20:40,201 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: no shoe is so okay.

499
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 2: So after this April twenty twenty five, you were fighting

500
00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:50,161
Speaker 2: for the body bo Yeah yeah, yep, tell me about

501
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,801
Speaker 2: that upon them because you know.

502
00:20:52,001 --> 00:20:55,961
Speaker 3: Against Chloe Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so she was a

503
00:20:56,041 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 3: Southpool Yeah, and I was confident. I knew that levels

504
00:20:59,441 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 3: above her. But obviously it only takes, you know, one punch.

505
00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: And I think in that fight it was good. Like

506
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 3: the wagon, I can go zero to a thousand in

507
00:21:09,721 --> 00:21:12,241
Speaker 3: anger and I'm getting like I've gotten so much better,

508
00:21:12,281 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: and I'm because I'm so happy, you know. But in

509
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,521
Speaker 3: weigh ins, when people are sitting there in front of

510
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,521
Speaker 3: and like let's go, let's get you doing that smarty crap,

511
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 3: like I just think I'm either going to finish it

512
00:21:23,481 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 3: here or I just don't say a word and I

513
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,321
Speaker 3: ignore it. And because I know I'm not going to

514
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,321
Speaker 3: be barking out loud, and what if I lose? So

515
00:21:31,681 --> 00:21:33,281
Speaker 3: I'm going to let you do the barking and then

516
00:21:33,281 --> 00:21:35,521
Speaker 3: you can walk away with your tawel between your legs.

517
00:21:35,801 --> 00:21:38,321
Speaker 3: That's fine, say what you want. And it does make

518
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:40,241
Speaker 3: for a good fight when someone's you know, come on.

519
00:21:40,561 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: She wasn't over the top, but you know, and she

520
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: had a crew with her too, and I was like, sweet,

521
00:21:44,761 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 3: bring it on.

522
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,201
Speaker 1: I'll fight every one of them.

523
00:21:46,321 --> 00:21:49,561
Speaker 4: So I was like, come, do you we focused? I'm

524
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,121
Speaker 4: ready for that.

525
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,041
Speaker 3: I just think like that person, I naturally get like,

526
00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: you think you're going to come and take my hard

527
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,521
Speaker 3: work from me. Not a chance, No, Like I've worked

528
00:22:00,521 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: my ass off to get here and I'm not having

529
00:22:02,921 --> 00:22:06,721
Speaker 3: you take it from me because I've earned this. And naturally,

530
00:22:06,721 --> 00:22:08,721
Speaker 3: in my head I get quite stubborn, and I never

531
00:22:08,761 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: I don't hate my opponents. But if we're fighting tomorrow,

532
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 3: we're not friends. I'll just put the wall up. It's on,

533
00:22:14,481 --> 00:22:17,281
Speaker 3: and then afterwards, yes, we we're friends. I'm not nasty,

534
00:22:17,321 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: but you've got to get into that mentality of like,

535
00:22:19,961 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: this person's here to take your spot, like I'm not

536
00:22:23,001 --> 00:22:25,801
Speaker 3: letting that happen, no way, And I think to it

537
00:22:25,801 --> 00:22:28,921
Speaker 3: helps with you know, my my coach and my friends

538
00:22:28,961 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: and family like the team, the whole team dens and

539
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,801
Speaker 3: they believe in me, and it's just like it's a

540
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,801
Speaker 3: team effort. But my coach more so, you know, he

541
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,201
Speaker 3: installs the confidence in me, like, you know, we've done the.

542
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,161
Speaker 1: Work, We've really you know, studied our opponent.

543
00:22:42,521 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: Anything that's thrown at us, we can adjust and and

544
00:22:45,481 --> 00:22:47,321
Speaker 3: you just yeah, you just pull through on the night,

545
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: which is good. So it's this big mental game. If

546
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:53,761
Speaker 3: you're not mentally there, then that's where you're gonna lose.

547
00:22:53,801 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: Have you ever hit anybody and gone oh fuck, and

548
00:22:55,961 --> 00:22:59,281
Speaker 2: you've realized fucking hell, I've hit them. I know you've

549
00:22:59,281 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: got a conscience, yeah, man, And have you've gone like

550
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:03,721
Speaker 2: fuck you just don't?

551
00:23:03,801 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: I think inspiring, Yes, inspiring.

552
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm a bit I do hold back a lot inspiring

553
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,521
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I'm there to learn as well, so inspiring.

554
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh sorry sorry, And then yeah, even me and my coach.

555
00:23:16,201 --> 00:23:19,281
Speaker 3: Whisper and if I hit him, I'm like, oh sorry,

556
00:23:19,321 --> 00:23:21,761
Speaker 3: And then he hits me and I said, you're not sorry.

557
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: Sorry.

558
00:23:24,281 --> 00:23:28,521
Speaker 3: Yeah, But in the ring, yeah, I want blood and

559
00:23:28,561 --> 00:23:30,041
Speaker 3: I want to hurt and I want to see them drop

560
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,321
Speaker 3: and I want to really take this soul like this

561
00:23:32,481 --> 00:23:34,441
Speaker 3: is my territory, like get out.

562
00:23:35,041 --> 00:23:36,561
Speaker 1: So and then after the fight, I'm like, oh my god,

563
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: I was really that person even at Wayne, like and

564
00:23:40,281 --> 00:23:43,561
Speaker 1: I love like screaming yellowt me do whatever. At weigh in,

565
00:23:43,721 --> 00:23:44,081
Speaker 1: I'll go.

566
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,281
Speaker 3: Nose to nose with you and I'm not gonna break

567
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: Like I just think, yeah, the things that run in

568
00:23:48,521 --> 00:23:51,441
Speaker 3: my head when we're weighing in and I'm just staring,

569
00:23:51,521 --> 00:23:53,721
Speaker 3: like we'll just stare, and I think if there was.

570
00:23:53,640 --> 00:24:00,401
Speaker 2: Like a yeah, yeah, yeah.

571
00:24:00,481 --> 00:24:03,521
Speaker 3: I think when earlier on in the career i'd waded

572
00:24:03,561 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: in and I sort of like, oh, I had a

573
00:24:06,241 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: bit of a laugh. And then I lost that fight,

574
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,761
Speaker 3: you know, because mentally I wasn't there, you know, like

575
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,041
Speaker 3: you've got to stay in that that tunnel vision of

576
00:24:14,561 --> 00:24:17,121
Speaker 3: even in way and I'm like looking at them like man,

577
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,801
Speaker 3: I'm gonna head bite you or like I walk away

578
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, and

579
00:24:23,521 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: like yeah, because someone asked I watch the things that

580
00:24:25,281 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: goes through your head, you know, and I'm like I

581
00:24:27,241 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: want to bite your nose off, like I'm going to

582
00:24:29,681 --> 00:24:32,881
Speaker 3: hurt you, like get away from me, did you.

583
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: Enjoy that fight more than this one? Because you you know,

584
00:24:35,521 --> 00:24:37,321
Speaker 2: you enjoyed that, you remembered it more than.

585
00:24:37,321 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: The Chloe was fight. Yeah, yeah, it was good. And

586
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,561
Speaker 3: I love Melbourne like it's like a second home. It's good.

587
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: Sorry Sydney, but I like Melbourn and like Sam Labrino.

588
00:24:44,761 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: He was on a really good fight night. But to

589
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,521
Speaker 3: get that then I was like, yeah, sweet, we're here

590
00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:50,081
Speaker 3: for business.

591
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: I've got two now, you know.

592
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,521
Speaker 3: Now, From then it was it was good and I

593
00:24:54,801 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: had I got that first sort of one out of

594
00:24:56,241 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: the way, and after that, not letting myself enjoy it,

595
00:24:59,721 --> 00:25:01,721
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you doing? Like enjoy this?

596
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,561
Speaker 3: So I think we all went to Macca's after. Yeah,

597
00:25:05,561 --> 00:25:07,921
Speaker 3: I went to Maccas with the belts and I had

598
00:25:07,961 --> 00:25:10,001
Speaker 3: the they come in a briefcase, which is really cool.

599
00:25:10,321 --> 00:25:12,321
Speaker 3: So at the fight night we opened the briefcase up,

600
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,721
Speaker 3: put all the drinks in there, closed it, walked to

601
00:25:14,801 --> 00:25:15,361
Speaker 3: Maccas and.

602
00:25:15,321 --> 00:25:17,721
Speaker 1: More on our way drinking and the belts And.

603
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: What do you kids think now about boat you being

604
00:25:21,761 --> 00:25:22,321
Speaker 4: WORL champion?

605
00:25:22,721 --> 00:25:22,921
Speaker 1: Yeah?

606
00:25:22,961 --> 00:25:26,881
Speaker 3: Good good, it's sunk in now, I think because we're

607
00:25:26,921 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: all really enjoying our life now and I'm sort of

608
00:25:29,921 --> 00:25:33,001
Speaker 3: I'd gone from the struggling mom, the stressed out mom,

609
00:25:33,041 --> 00:25:36,201
Speaker 3: the very unhappy mum in a crap relationship, the very

610
00:25:36,241 --> 00:25:40,721
Speaker 3: controlled mum just not confident, not happy and just feeling

611
00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: like crap every single day, like and I don't need

612
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: to feel like that. And you you kids see that

613
00:25:45,481 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: they vibe off your vibe. So you know, my son

614
00:25:49,001 --> 00:25:51,201
Speaker 3: is like, I swear you've got adhd or something.

615
00:25:51,321 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Is like two minutes.

616
00:25:52,721 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: Ago we'll clean in the house up Mowent and now

617
00:25:54,681 --> 00:25:57,321
Speaker 3: we're packing the boat and we're going camping.

618
00:25:58,360 --> 00:25:59,201
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good.

619
00:25:59,201 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: And like the girls, my two little girls, like they

620
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,281
Speaker 3: love it so and they tell people now you know,

621
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: they they at the daycare and I go into the

622
00:26:06,001 --> 00:26:08,201
Speaker 3: daycare and all the kids now like, dare's dairs?

623
00:26:08,201 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: What are you fighting?

624
00:26:08,921 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: What are you on TV? And that's really cool. So

625
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: my middle girl, Frankie, she's she's going to be like me.

626
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: She went up to went up to a boy and

627
00:26:17,921 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: my mum's here and she's going to punch you if

628
00:26:19,441 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: you mean to me.

629
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,281
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god. But yeah, so

630
00:26:22,561 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: it's cool.

631
00:26:24,201 --> 00:26:26,321
Speaker 2: Do you ever anything that you'll do a worll title

632
00:26:26,761 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: in your hometown. Would you ever want to do that?

633
00:26:28,801 --> 00:26:31,281
Speaker 1: We need, it needs to be done. But it's the

634
00:26:31,321 --> 00:26:32,401
Speaker 1: hard thing with Australia.

635
00:26:32,441 --> 00:26:35,761
Speaker 3: That's why, you know, I'm signed with MVP and they've

636
00:26:35,801 --> 00:26:38,121
Speaker 3: just done Wonders for women's boxing.

637
00:26:38,681 --> 00:26:39,521
Speaker 1: Australia is hard.

638
00:26:39,721 --> 00:26:42,321
Speaker 3: It's very hard in any sort of you know, to

639
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,041
Speaker 3: break through in any sort of support. It's that that

640
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,561
Speaker 3: whole tool poppy syndrome. Someone gets really good and people

641
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: want to you know, take it down or whatnot. But

642
00:26:49,801 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 3: I've been quite supported in Australia, which is good and

643
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,281
Speaker 3: my hometown. But yeah, it's hard because it's a money

644
00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: thing too, you know, like you've got to pay the opponents.

645
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: You've got to get opponents in and at the level

646
00:27:00,441 --> 00:27:01,841
Speaker 3: that we're at now, you know, we've got to fly.

647
00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:04,041
Speaker 3: You know, we've got to listen now we fight who's

648
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,641
Speaker 3: under us to come up.

649
00:27:05,721 --> 00:27:07,681
Speaker 1: So it's very worldwide now.

650
00:27:07,801 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: But it'd be really cool to do, you know, a

651
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,841
Speaker 3: fight night, like I would run a fight night perhaps

652
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,441
Speaker 3: back home or you know, I've done one in Brisbane

653
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,601
Speaker 3: and yeah, so the options there, but we just need

654
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: Australia and more money.

655
00:27:21,441 --> 00:27:23,761
Speaker 2: It's a question I want to ask you yeah. Now

656
00:27:23,801 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: you've become world tighter, You've got you're the world champion.

657
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,321
Speaker 2: Have the leeches come out?

658
00:27:29,961 --> 00:27:30,441
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

659
00:27:30,481 --> 00:27:33,761
Speaker 2: Have they come out? Like because you're so popular now

660
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Are they coming out? Or

661
00:27:35,681 --> 00:27:36,801
Speaker 2: you don't recognize it.

662
00:27:38,201 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: I think I'm oblivious and I'm pretty chill like, but

663
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: people know that. Yes, she's really chill and humble. But

664
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: don't fuck with her either, because she will tell you to.

665
00:27:47,801 --> 00:27:50,041
Speaker 3: You know, you know, if you do something wrong by her,

666
00:27:50,041 --> 00:27:51,561
Speaker 3: then you're going to know about it type of thing.

667
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,561
Speaker 3: But not really and I think I'm quite I don't know,

668
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm just yeah, super chill. I just don't yeah, just

669
00:27:57,041 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: me not yeah, not going to change, but you know,

670
00:27:59,961 --> 00:28:02,201
Speaker 3: you do get people do reach out a little bit more,

671
00:28:02,321 --> 00:28:04,961
Speaker 3: maybe to promote their brands and whatnot, which is good.

672
00:28:05,041 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: And I'd been told, you know, oh, don't do that.

673
00:28:07,681 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: Don't they're nobody. You don't have to body do that,

674
00:28:09,681 --> 00:28:11,681
Speaker 3: like not buy my team or aything, but by other

675
00:28:11,681 --> 00:28:14,081
Speaker 3: people like oh, why are you supporting you know Joe

676
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: Blow who's selling his shirts at the back of his car,

677
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'll wear that over a shirt in

678
00:28:19,201 --> 00:28:21,601
Speaker 3: a shop, you know, I'm all about people, you know,

679
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,241
Speaker 3: starting out and being the underdog and who knows, old mate,

680
00:28:25,281 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: who's selling shirts out of his boot, he might become

681
00:28:27,681 --> 00:28:28,401
Speaker 3: the new, the new.

682
00:28:28,481 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 4: Well you were the only dog ones so exactly.

683
00:28:31,041 --> 00:28:33,521
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, I'm quite welcoming of you know,

684
00:28:33,561 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm not silly, but quite welcoming.

685
00:28:35,041 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: Of people sort of want to jump on board. But

686
00:28:38,081 --> 00:28:38,601
Speaker 1: yeah I do.

687
00:28:38,801 --> 00:28:41,961
Speaker 3: I am too nice, way too nice, and my coach

688
00:28:42,041 --> 00:28:43,041
Speaker 3: keeps me in line with that.

689
00:28:44,081 --> 00:28:46,761
Speaker 2: Do you like twenty twenty five was a big thing

690
00:28:46,761 --> 00:28:49,281
Speaker 2: for you because you signed off with Jake Paul's promotion. Yes,

691
00:28:49,601 --> 00:28:52,201
Speaker 2: that's massive. I know that's like that. I've got to say,

692
00:28:52,241 --> 00:28:55,801
Speaker 2: that's fucking it's huge. Now, how did that come apart? Like,

693
00:28:56,441 --> 00:28:58,681
Speaker 2: how did he just reach out to you? Yah, he'd

694
00:28:58,721 --> 00:29:03,321
Speaker 2: contacted so Mike Leonardi. There's Jake Paul nikisare and Mike Leonardi.

695
00:29:03,321 --> 00:29:06,041
Speaker 3: They sort of, you know, the dream team and Mike

696
00:29:06,121 --> 00:29:07,961
Speaker 3: sort of does all the you know, the working behind

697
00:29:07,961 --> 00:29:09,801
Speaker 3: the scenes, all that sort of stuff, and he's his

698
00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:12,881
Speaker 3: box as well. But he had contacted Chris, my coach,

699
00:29:12,961 --> 00:29:16,361
Speaker 3: and I sort of didn't really like take it that serious.

700
00:29:16,401 --> 00:29:18,961
Speaker 3: And Chryst you know, we've been we've been approached. And

701
00:29:19,161 --> 00:29:22,921
Speaker 3: there was actually another company, a company Promotional Management that

702
00:29:23,121 --> 00:29:26,281
Speaker 3: contacted us too at the time, and they were sort

703
00:29:26,281 --> 00:29:29,641
Speaker 3: of playing, you know, offering, offering and whatnot. And once

704
00:29:29,681 --> 00:29:32,561
Speaker 3: they had gotten wins that MVP and also offered, they

705
00:29:32,561 --> 00:29:35,481
Speaker 3: were we're not going to win this one, so we

706
00:29:35,601 --> 00:29:37,161
Speaker 3: naturally obviously want with MVP.

707
00:29:37,721 --> 00:29:38,961
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that was really cool.

708
00:29:39,241 --> 00:29:39,921
Speaker 4: How did that change?

709
00:29:40,281 --> 00:29:43,521
Speaker 3: Sure, you're not if they emailed or something very surreal

710
00:29:43,841 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: as well, And naturally, me being me, I was like,

711
00:29:46,521 --> 00:29:47,201
Speaker 3: is it really true?

712
00:29:47,281 --> 00:29:49,961
Speaker 1: You know, am I getting this opportunity.

713
00:29:49,361 --> 00:29:52,001
Speaker 3: Because you know, like I've always had to fight and

714
00:29:52,601 --> 00:29:54,081
Speaker 3: you know, I'll get like the ship end of the

715
00:29:54,081 --> 00:29:57,881
Speaker 3: stick and oh man, start from scratch again. Like so

716
00:29:58,201 --> 00:30:00,121
Speaker 3: I thought it was too good to be true, and

717
00:30:00,241 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, you know, and they took ages to

718
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:06,521
Speaker 3: send the contract through and I was thinking, oh god,

719
00:30:06,561 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: they've got like, you know, second second, someone said something

720
00:30:13,481 --> 00:30:15,881
Speaker 3: about me and I'm like, oh no no, And then Ben,

721
00:30:16,001 --> 00:30:19,001
Speaker 3: we got it, and I was like, it's on cool,

722
00:30:19,521 --> 00:30:21,881
Speaker 3: but yeah, they really look after us, and.

723
00:30:21,641 --> 00:30:23,561
Speaker 4: So that means all your fights now are in America.

724
00:30:23,681 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so contracted with obviously America. So yeah, it'd be

725
00:30:27,241 --> 00:30:30,041
Speaker 3: cool if MVP do one in Australia, but it's just

726
00:30:30,081 --> 00:30:30,841
Speaker 3: a monny.

727
00:30:30,561 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Thing, you know.

728
00:30:31,681 --> 00:30:33,161
Speaker 4: Wow, what was it like? But did you did you

729
00:30:33,161 --> 00:30:34,041
Speaker 4: get to meet Jake Pauls?

730
00:30:34,361 --> 00:30:35,241
Speaker 1: Yeah? He was so chill.

731
00:30:35,441 --> 00:30:37,401
Speaker 4: We had like has he watched you fight?

732
00:30:37,601 --> 00:30:37,761
Speaker 3: Is he?

733
00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:38,081
Speaker 5: Yeah?

734
00:30:38,121 --> 00:30:38,321
Speaker 4: Yeah?

735
00:30:38,361 --> 00:30:40,801
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he didn't come to my recent one, but

736
00:30:40,881 --> 00:30:43,841
Speaker 3: he watches them all and he messaged and congratulations and

737
00:30:43,881 --> 00:30:46,841
Speaker 3: whatnot as well. So and he posted up, posted up,

738
00:30:46,961 --> 00:30:49,401
Speaker 3: you know on his page too, so that was really cool.

739
00:30:49,481 --> 00:30:52,081
Speaker 3: But yeah, Nick Kiss is always at the fights and

740
00:30:52,121 --> 00:30:54,361
Speaker 3: that's his right hand mand and Mike and that, so

741
00:30:54,881 --> 00:30:57,681
Speaker 3: it was really cool. At the last one though, we

742
00:30:57,681 --> 00:31:01,801
Speaker 3: were in Texas and Nickisa he's he's like, yeah, look

743
00:31:01,841 --> 00:31:03,521
Speaker 3: he goes, I take my hat off to you know,

744
00:31:03,841 --> 00:31:06,161
Speaker 3: mum's you know, and you know, the single mom. And

745
00:31:06,201 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: my son was there, Seth and he's been with me

746
00:31:09,081 --> 00:31:11,841
Speaker 3: from you know, little carrying my towel and now he's

747
00:31:11,841 --> 00:31:16,001
Speaker 3: carrying two belts out you know, Like so nicki'sa has

748
00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:17,681
Speaker 3: seen that and he's like, you know, you and your

749
00:31:17,721 --> 00:31:19,401
Speaker 3: son come up here and you can sit front row

750
00:31:19,601 --> 00:31:22,921
Speaker 3: like where they put their chairs. Really sat in his

751
00:31:23,041 --> 00:31:25,041
Speaker 3: chair with Seth and Nickissa as.

752
00:31:25,041 --> 00:31:27,441
Speaker 1: I enjoy this and I'm like, oh, this is really cool.

753
00:31:27,481 --> 00:31:29,841
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was really good just to sit there

754
00:31:30,481 --> 00:31:32,601
Speaker 3: right on the on the main screen TV and have

755
00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:34,961
Speaker 3: the cameras on me and Seth and that was really

756
00:31:35,001 --> 00:31:38,481
Speaker 3: good watch the fights and yeah. But like I say

757
00:31:38,521 --> 00:31:40,161
Speaker 3: to Seth, I'm like, this is cool A and he's

758
00:31:40,161 --> 00:31:43,121
Speaker 3: so BLA was like, yes, all right, I just want

759
00:31:43,121 --> 00:31:43,841
Speaker 3: to go fishing. Mum.

760
00:31:44,081 --> 00:31:44,601
Speaker 1: Okay.

761
00:31:45,841 --> 00:31:48,001
Speaker 2: So you've had one fights already on the on the

762
00:31:48,201 --> 00:31:50,641
Speaker 2: on the carb yep. So that was in October. Yeah,

763
00:31:50,641 --> 00:31:54,521
Speaker 2: that was October twenty twenty five. Logan Hollow Logan Holer, yeeah.

764
00:31:54,561 --> 00:31:56,641
Speaker 2: What was What was I fight? I was was preparations

765
00:31:56,681 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: different now because you're you're with a different fight company

766
00:32:00,201 --> 00:32:00,561
Speaker 2: and I.

767
00:32:00,561 --> 00:32:01,121
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

768
00:32:01,121 --> 00:32:03,361
Speaker 3: So Chris and I still do the same thing each fight,

769
00:32:03,401 --> 00:32:04,881
Speaker 3: can't we work on something new? Ye?

770
00:32:05,081 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: So it's like we're forever learning forever.

771
00:32:07,241 --> 00:32:09,361
Speaker 3: I'm like, I thought, I now boxing, and I'm like,

772
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:11,881
Speaker 3: there's more to lean what the hell?

773
00:32:12,241 --> 00:32:13,441
Speaker 1: But he's really cool.

774
00:32:13,481 --> 00:32:16,601
Speaker 3: So we went right back to the drawing board and

775
00:32:16,641 --> 00:32:19,841
Speaker 3: the next fight we he pretty much said you've got it.

776
00:32:19,881 --> 00:32:20,641
Speaker 1: You're on the big screen.

777
00:32:20,681 --> 00:32:23,921
Speaker 3: Now let's make a statement and show them why you

778
00:32:24,001 --> 00:32:26,681
Speaker 3: are the destroyer and why you're here. And so I

779
00:32:26,721 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: was like, yep, sweet, And I was really chill, like

780
00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:32,881
Speaker 3: I really let myself enjoy the media, the experience and

781
00:32:33,161 --> 00:32:36,081
Speaker 3: just to be myself. And I used to get nervous

782
00:32:36,441 --> 00:32:38,881
Speaker 3: doing talks and the media and whatnot.

783
00:32:38,921 --> 00:32:40,161
Speaker 1: And now you just can't chut me up.

784
00:32:40,241 --> 00:32:46,361
Speaker 3: So now I I have fun with it. And I'd

785
00:32:46,401 --> 00:32:47,961
Speaker 3: said to you, you know, I was thinking, oh my god,

786
00:32:47,961 --> 00:32:50,161
Speaker 3: there's so many people here, and this girl's got a

787
00:32:50,201 --> 00:32:52,081
Speaker 3: million followers and she's into me, and I'm like, you

788
00:32:52,081 --> 00:32:54,721
Speaker 3: know what, they're here for me. This is my show,

789
00:32:54,921 --> 00:32:59,561
Speaker 3: Like like, let yourself enjoy it. It's such a mental whirlwind.

790
00:33:00,041 --> 00:33:01,681
Speaker 3: And yeah, so they really put on a good show.

791
00:33:01,721 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: Everything is like you fly in, You've got like a

792
00:33:04,361 --> 00:33:06,961
Speaker 3: run sheet, you know, You've got get your track seats

793
00:33:06,961 --> 00:33:09,201
Speaker 3: given to you, you get your photos done, you get

794
00:33:09,241 --> 00:33:13,361
Speaker 3: all your professional your media stuff, your interviews, and we've

795
00:33:13,401 --> 00:33:16,161
Speaker 3: seen each other, like we cross paths all the time.

796
00:33:16,201 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: See they're in the same venue for like a week together.

797
00:33:19,721 --> 00:33:22,041
Speaker 3: So you see them and my poor mom and dad

798
00:33:22,041 --> 00:33:24,161
Speaker 3: that they come along to my fights now and they look.

799
00:33:24,081 --> 00:33:26,081
Speaker 1: And my mom she's just like, dare there? She is?

800
00:33:26,201 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: She fucking my Mom's all good, I've got this. She

801
00:33:29,681 --> 00:33:32,441
Speaker 3: was like, oh was just nervous. I'm like it's all good.

802
00:33:33,121 --> 00:33:35,241
Speaker 2: Was What was it like both in America that the

803
00:33:35,281 --> 00:33:37,041
Speaker 2: events would be a lot bigger and gold big.

804
00:33:37,281 --> 00:33:39,361
Speaker 4: So walking out to the ring now is a.

805
00:33:39,321 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: Lot more hectic walking out to Melbourne or Brisbane or somewhere.

806
00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:44,121
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got so many cameras.

807
00:33:44,121 --> 00:33:46,801
Speaker 3: So we do a run through like the day before

808
00:33:46,881 --> 00:33:48,841
Speaker 3: the fight, just to say, look, this is where you're walking.

809
00:33:49,441 --> 00:33:51,001
Speaker 1: You'll have a camera here, you're coming there.

810
00:33:51,001 --> 00:33:53,561
Speaker 3: And even after with the in the ring there was

811
00:33:53,561 --> 00:33:55,401
Speaker 3: a camera here, there was one there, and I had

812
00:33:55,401 --> 00:33:58,681
Speaker 3: someone taking my glove and because everything gets taken away

813
00:33:58,721 --> 00:33:59,681
Speaker 3: and tested.

814
00:34:00,481 --> 00:34:02,241
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just want to do showey, That's all

815
00:34:02,281 --> 00:34:02,961
Speaker 1: I wanted to do.

816
00:34:04,681 --> 00:34:07,721
Speaker 3: And there's like cameras and there's people yep, do this,

817
00:34:07,761 --> 00:34:09,841
Speaker 3: do that, and everyone's on there like head pieces. Is like,

818
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's like a full production. So yeah,

819
00:34:12,041 --> 00:34:14,601
Speaker 3: it's really really cool. But when you go out, like

820
00:34:15,241 --> 00:34:17,161
Speaker 3: I was talking, like, I do a lot of you know,

821
00:34:17,201 --> 00:34:19,201
Speaker 3: work with like the younger boxes and you know, like

822
00:34:19,241 --> 00:34:21,961
Speaker 3: youth and whatnot, and just talking to them and they're like,

823
00:34:21,961 --> 00:34:24,961
Speaker 3: how do you control your nerves? And it's so big

824
00:34:25,001 --> 00:34:27,761
Speaker 3: and the crowds so much bigger, and but honestly, when

825
00:34:27,801 --> 00:34:29,921
Speaker 3: you walk out there, it just you just zone in

826
00:34:29,961 --> 00:34:31,921
Speaker 3: and that's all you see. I don't even notice the

827
00:34:32,001 --> 00:34:34,721
Speaker 3: ref in there. I don't even see him when I fight.

828
00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:37,321
Speaker 3: So but this fight, we made a statement which was

829
00:34:37,401 --> 00:34:41,561
Speaker 3: really cool, and we really worked on sitting low, sitting

830
00:34:41,561 --> 00:34:45,041
Speaker 3: on punches and just setting up and a lot of

831
00:34:45,081 --> 00:34:48,201
Speaker 3: my punching. I think I've got to hurt you every

832
00:34:48,241 --> 00:34:50,281
Speaker 3: single time. I've really got to hurt you with everything.

833
00:34:50,321 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: And I'm learning, you know, obviously pick pick and then

834
00:34:53,681 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: then hurt them.

835
00:34:54,521 --> 00:34:56,481
Speaker 1: And that's what we did and we got the Yeah,

836
00:34:56,481 --> 00:34:59,401
Speaker 1: I got the knockdown and finished it early. So it

837
00:34:59,441 --> 00:34:59,841
Speaker 1: was cool.

838
00:35:00,241 --> 00:35:01,841
Speaker 3: And something just came over me and I was like,

839
00:35:01,881 --> 00:35:04,601
Speaker 3: oh my god, and then yeah, I just went nuts.

840
00:35:04,721 --> 00:35:05,281
Speaker 1: So's good.

841
00:35:05,441 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: Who would you like to fight?

842
00:35:06,681 --> 00:35:08,281
Speaker 2: Who is it? Who's the number one person you like

843
00:35:08,281 --> 00:35:09,801
Speaker 2: to fight? There's going to be someone. They go, you know,

844
00:35:09,801 --> 00:35:10,641
Speaker 2: I want your title.

845
00:35:10,881 --> 00:35:12,321
Speaker 4: I want I want to knock you out.

846
00:35:12,361 --> 00:35:15,841
Speaker 3: I want well, there's one now, okay, Scott, I'm gonna

847
00:35:15,921 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: knock her out.

848
00:35:16,761 --> 00:35:22,041
Speaker 1: I want to I mean, be humble, but.

849
00:35:23,761 --> 00:35:26,761
Speaker 3: There wasn't any one really because I'm happy to fight

850
00:35:26,841 --> 00:35:29,481
Speaker 3: anybody and a lot of people call out like Clarissa

851
00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:32,401
Speaker 3: Shields and whatnot, and doesn't really FaZe me, you know,

852
00:35:32,521 --> 00:35:35,121
Speaker 3: like I'm happy with where I am at the top

853
00:35:35,161 --> 00:35:38,641
Speaker 3: of my division. So anyone else that's coming up or

854
00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:41,441
Speaker 3: in my way, then one hundred percent you're on my radar.

855
00:35:41,841 --> 00:35:43,721
Speaker 1: We just yeah, whatever whatever happens.

856
00:35:43,761 --> 00:35:47,201
Speaker 3: But yes, so Kay had somehow got these other two

857
00:35:47,281 --> 00:35:51,121
Speaker 3: belts and that needs to happen. So yeah, whether they

858
00:35:51,441 --> 00:35:54,321
Speaker 3: I don't think Australia would. It's hard because she's with

859
00:35:54,361 --> 00:35:57,561
Speaker 3: another American company too, so yeah.

860
00:35:57,361 --> 00:35:58,281
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to do.

861
00:35:58,761 --> 00:35:59,521
Speaker 4: The way to go for you.

862
00:36:00,041 --> 00:36:02,641
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't broken out in the UK. Yeah, and

863
00:36:02,721 --> 00:36:04,721
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the other women boxes. They

864
00:36:04,761 --> 00:36:07,841
Speaker 3: do have a fairly big profile in the boxing scene

865
00:36:07,841 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: because they have fought in the UK. So I'm very

866
00:36:11,121 --> 00:36:15,081
Speaker 3: not secluded. But Australia, it's so hard for Australians. It's

867
00:36:15,161 --> 00:36:18,201
Speaker 3: really really hard. If you are from the UK or America,

868
00:36:18,241 --> 00:36:19,441
Speaker 3: you're already amazing.

869
00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:21,401
Speaker 2: You don't have to have to move over to America

870
00:36:21,601 --> 00:36:24,321
Speaker 2: to get Yeah, I think so, Yeah, yep, yep.

871
00:36:24,401 --> 00:36:26,961
Speaker 3: So but on the card you think, I don't know,

872
00:36:27,001 --> 00:36:28,921
Speaker 3: I have thought about it, you know, thought about either

873
00:36:29,041 --> 00:36:29,921
Speaker 3: going there or.

874
00:36:30,001 --> 00:36:32,281
Speaker 2: You're just staying there for maybe twelve months just to

875
00:36:32,281 --> 00:36:33,161
Speaker 2: get yourself to.

876
00:36:33,681 --> 00:36:34,641
Speaker 1: Get amongst it all.

877
00:36:34,721 --> 00:36:37,241
Speaker 3: And yeah, that would be really cool, but obviously it's

878
00:36:37,241 --> 00:36:39,201
Speaker 3: hard as a single mom of three. You know, they've

879
00:36:39,201 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: got school and you know I've got you know, get

880
00:36:44,561 --> 00:36:48,561
Speaker 3: me a nanny. I'll never be home if I had

881
00:36:48,681 --> 00:36:50,561
Speaker 3: help out here.

882
00:36:52,161 --> 00:36:55,481
Speaker 4: Okay, So what's the future then for you?

883
00:36:55,601 --> 00:37:00,481
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maintain obviously, keep these belts, and then you

884
00:37:00,601 --> 00:37:03,001
Speaker 3: get the other two. And yeah, if people want to

885
00:37:03,641 --> 00:37:05,921
Speaker 3: try and take them off me, obviously, like if there's

886
00:37:05,961 --> 00:37:08,801
Speaker 3: a big fight, if it is a different division and

887
00:37:08,881 --> 00:37:12,281
Speaker 3: the money's really good and whatnot, then I would jump

888
00:37:12,361 --> 00:37:14,761
Speaker 3: ship to another weight division. But at the moment, we're

889
00:37:14,801 --> 00:37:17,561
Speaker 3: happy with where we are, and yeah, we've really worked

890
00:37:17,561 --> 00:37:18,521
Speaker 3: our butt off to get here.

891
00:37:18,921 --> 00:37:22,441
Speaker 2: Well you've done since we spoke crazy it was what

892
00:37:22,561 --> 00:37:24,081
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago, two years ago?

893
00:37:24,281 --> 00:37:26,881
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, you've come a long long Yeah.

894
00:37:26,921 --> 00:37:29,961
Speaker 3: And I think I was doing concreting then too as well,

895
00:37:30,001 --> 00:37:33,361
Speaker 3: personal training full time concrete and the three kids and

896
00:37:33,361 --> 00:37:36,521
Speaker 3: the babies, the girls would have been like not even two,

897
00:37:37,041 --> 00:37:39,041
Speaker 3: so yeah, like babies, you know.

898
00:37:39,641 --> 00:37:40,801
Speaker 1: So it was quite full on.

899
00:37:40,921 --> 00:37:44,121
Speaker 3: And I looked back at a photo of me back

900
00:37:44,201 --> 00:37:46,561
Speaker 3: then and I was like, man, I looked sick, like

901
00:37:46,641 --> 00:37:50,361
Speaker 3: I was just so drained and like, you know, working

902
00:37:50,441 --> 00:37:52,161
Speaker 3: you know, four am in the morning till ten o'clock

903
00:37:52,201 --> 00:37:54,601
Speaker 3: at night, like I do work after work and then

904
00:37:54,641 --> 00:37:57,481
Speaker 3: train full time. But I couldn't feel I still felt great.

905
00:37:58,281 --> 00:38:00,521
Speaker 3: I just thought, oh, man, you're really tired in that photo.

906
00:38:01,161 --> 00:38:05,201
Speaker 3: I wonder why any regrets. No, no, no regrets, no thing,

907
00:38:06,041 --> 00:38:09,361
Speaker 3: no regrets like in the boxing scene. I think I've

908
00:38:09,401 --> 00:38:12,281
Speaker 3: grown as a person though, you know, like grown as

909
00:38:12,281 --> 00:38:14,481
Speaker 3: a person that you're allowed to be happy and you're

910
00:38:14,481 --> 00:38:16,841
Speaker 3: allowed to sort of, I think we're getting softer in

911
00:38:16,881 --> 00:38:18,001
Speaker 3: my old age a little bit.

912
00:38:18,441 --> 00:38:20,841
Speaker 1: But yeah, like really, and I really.

913
00:38:20,681 --> 00:38:23,521
Speaker 3: Want other women to be like, you don't have to

914
00:38:23,561 --> 00:38:25,321
Speaker 3: be unhappy, you don't have to you know, like I

915
00:38:25,361 --> 00:38:28,841
Speaker 3: want to keep inspiring other women to get out there

916
00:38:28,881 --> 00:38:32,081
Speaker 3: and do things like, yeah, it's just been a like

917
00:38:32,121 --> 00:38:36,161
Speaker 3: a wild ride, a lot of self development, and yeah,

918
00:38:36,201 --> 00:38:38,361
Speaker 3: I sort of I am happy to work on myself

919
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:41,721
Speaker 3: rather than walking around being over confident and think my shit,

920
00:38:41,721 --> 00:38:43,601
Speaker 3: doesn't think because I'm the two time world champ now

921
00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:46,321
Speaker 3: like yeah crazy. Like the guy I met in the

922
00:38:46,321 --> 00:38:49,161
Speaker 3: street is like, oh their I'm like yeah, hold them

923
00:38:49,161 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: and he's like what put them on the arm.

924
00:38:52,681 --> 00:38:55,681
Speaker 1: Want everyone to enjoy this, you know? Wow, Yeah, it's

925
00:38:55,721 --> 00:38:57,401
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, it's good.

926
00:38:57,561 --> 00:39:00,321
Speaker 2: I want to say congratulations anyway, And when you're tell

927
00:39:00,361 --> 00:39:01,961
Speaker 2: me to come back on my podcast when you've got

928
00:39:01,961 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: the next two belts, that would be good, yeah, because

929
00:39:04,041 --> 00:39:06,281
Speaker 2: I'd like to see you come back with the new belt.

930
00:39:06,881 --> 00:39:09,281
Speaker 4: But before we go, I want you to describe yourself

931
00:39:09,281 --> 00:39:09,801
Speaker 4: in one word.

932
00:39:10,241 --> 00:39:19,561
Speaker 5: Oh no, I was going to say that before because

933
00:39:19,881 --> 00:39:22,441
Speaker 5: you but you came on my you came on the

934
00:39:22,481 --> 00:39:25,281
Speaker 5: podcast last time and you said to me this quoted

935
00:39:25,361 --> 00:39:30,281
Speaker 5: you said, I'm still the Bogan, no matter what happens,

936
00:39:30,401 --> 00:39:37,961
Speaker 5: I'm still the bog. You describe yourself because you're not like,

937
00:39:39,321 --> 00:39:40,561
Speaker 5: describe yourself in one word.

938
00:39:40,681 --> 00:39:44,841
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know. I don't know. Humble, I

939
00:39:44,881 --> 00:39:48,961
Speaker 1: don't know, humble, like chill like you are chilled, chilled

940
00:39:49,081 --> 00:39:52,641
Speaker 1: like happy? You know, yeah, I don't know. There's there's

941
00:39:52,641 --> 00:39:53,281
Speaker 1: a lot of words.

942
00:39:54,361 --> 00:39:55,321
Speaker 4: That's a lot of words.

943
00:39:55,521 --> 00:39:59,001
Speaker 2: Maybe me, just me, But I want to say thank

944
00:39:59,001 --> 00:40:01,401
Speaker 2: you for coming back on and sharing your journey, and

945
00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:03,481
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to come back on with the other

946
00:40:03,481 --> 00:40:04,001
Speaker 2: two belts.

947
00:40:04,081 --> 00:40:05,001
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll do this again.

948
00:40:05,281 --> 00:40:06,961
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll have like an assistant.

949
00:40:07,041 --> 00:40:12,361
Speaker 4: Then make sure Jacobs, I'll bring you in well. Thank

950
00:40:12,401 --> 00:40:14,361
Speaker 4: you days, thank you so much, thank you so much.

951
00:40:17,921 --> 00:40:32,641
Speaker 3: H m hm