WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 13 August

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live. I can't stand when people

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<v Speaker 2>lie to you. I can't stand when the people whose

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<v Speaker 2>job it is to call it out look the other way. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I both know that politicians of all different types,

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<v Speaker 2>and the people who enable them, generally in the media,

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<v Speaker 2>they will ride a certain wave to power and then

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<v Speaker 2>turn around and deny that they've ever been to the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect example what's playing out right now with Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>who was for this and now isn't for that, and

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<v Speaker 2>the media of course nothing to see here. In Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>the number one issue at the last election was cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living. The number one issue the day after the

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<v Speaker 2>last election was cost of living. The number one issue.

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<v Speaker 2>A year after the election was cost of living, the

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<v Speaker 2>number one issue two years after. Get the point, because

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<v Speaker 2>the reality for millions of Australians is that, yes, due

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<v Speaker 2>to giant global issues, things became very complicated after the

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<v Speaker 2>years of COVID, But Australia seems to be having a

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<v Speaker 2>longer hangover, a deeper hangover than firstly any of us expected,

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<v Speaker 2>but most importantly that we were promised. Because you see,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who promised to be the people who say

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<v Speaker 2>take two and lie down and you'll be fine by

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. Was, of course, this government, the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who cheered them in by raising the noise

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<v Speaker 2>as loud as they possibly could in and around cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living. And then of course they do everything they

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<v Speaker 2>can in the media to avoid the subject, over and

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. They turn around and tell us

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<v Speaker 2>that while when they've got their budget it's a cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living extravaganza, that when they're doing tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuts, oh, it'll fix the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But you and I both know, because we're still standing

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach, that the waves keep coming and coming

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<v Speaker 2>and coming. Okay, I won't talk youre the metaphor any

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<v Speaker 2>longer you get them a point on this one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living and it whacks, and it whacks and

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<v Speaker 2>it whacks. But because there are things that are cyclical

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<v Speaker 2>and not in control of the politicians, they of course

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<v Speaker 2>unable to fix many of those things. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>things that the politicians do that make things worse. But

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to make everything personal. So I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hold them accountable to their same standards. Unsurprisingly, most in

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<v Speaker 2>the media have no interest in doing this whatsoever, because

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care about the issues. They don't care about

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<v Speaker 2>the people on the other side of this screen, or

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<v Speaker 2>the screen of the articles, or the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the speaker. They are just interested in the little game

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<v Speaker 2>of everything that happens on this side of the screen,

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<v Speaker 2>or this side of your computer, or this side of

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<v Speaker 2>your radio speaker. But like you, I know plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>people that have been doing it really tough over the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of years. I know plenty of people who

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<v Speaker 2>expected something different. Instead they got something far worse. And

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about this every night because it is that relentless.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same way that you cover a natural disaster

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<v Speaker 2>while it's taking place day after day after day, we

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<v Speaker 2>will do the same when it comes to cost of living.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about being repetitive for the point of politics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about showing every night that we see you, that

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<v Speaker 2>we hear you, and that we understand that when this

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<v Speaker 2>video spreads online to people who would not normally watch

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<v Speaker 2>the program or engage with the channel, that they understand

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<v Speaker 2>someone gets it on this side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know, and I know that of the years we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been talking about this, there is half a dozen examples

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<v Speaker 2>that do pop up in the media but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the political media. It's generally the people who are outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the politics who end up filing stories like this,

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<v Speaker 2>including the number of Australians who are skipping doctors appointments

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<v Speaker 2>or turning off their heating amid the housing crisis and

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living crisis. What about the people hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>whom so they skip a meal, or the millions of

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<v Speaker 2>people who go to things like food banks. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people who are now rubbish putting their hands

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<v Speaker 2>into a bin, dumpster diving to find food because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the coin for it. Three point seven million

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<v Speaker 2>people last year, according to Food Bank, had trouble putting

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<v Speaker 2>food on the table. I didn't know where the food

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<v Speaker 2>was coming from Melbourne University. Too many Aussie kids are

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<v Speaker 2>starting a family and raising kids in poverty. Our Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, whose biography when he was riding the wave

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<v Speaker 2>of cost of living was I'm the kid from Housing Commission,

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<v Speaker 2>the single mum. I know what it's like to do it, Tarfa.

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<v Speaker 2>I can rub two sticks together. But of course he's

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<v Speaker 2>been in the system for decades. He really is a

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden esque figure, not just because of his inc competence.

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<v Speaker 2>But because he's been around the system. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>worked for a bank teller in the eighties for this

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time, and then he's been an advisor or

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<v Speaker 2>an MP for the rest of his life, meaning he's

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<v Speaker 2>expert at learning about the waves to catch and how

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<v Speaker 2>to manipulate opinion and how to whisper sweet. Nothing's into

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<v Speaker 2>the media to change their opinion, but his life circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>how he lives and whom he chooses to hang out with,

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<v Speaker 2>tells us about how.

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<v Speaker 1>He has strayed so far, so far.

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<v Speaker 2>From the man that he always claims to be. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>one other reason why the Prime Minister doesn't get it,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel the urgency. It's because he alone every other

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<v Speaker 2>MP has got not one, not two, but three pay

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<v Speaker 2>rises since Labor came to power. You've had twelve interest

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<v Speaker 2>rate rises. They got three pay rises. He's now on

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred thousand dollars and one of those three, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, was the biggest pay rise in ten years now. Previously,

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<v Speaker 2>when politicians felt a sense of shame or they were

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<v Speaker 2>slightly afraid of a media that even a positive media

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<v Speaker 2>that liked you, would call you out on BS, he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't even had to answer a single question about whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not they should defer their pay rises. Nope, it

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<v Speaker 2>sweeps in everyone's good, all the top end echelons of

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<v Speaker 2>the public service, which are often paid more than the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister, fine, all of the CEOs, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>people they're hanging out with at the front end of

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<v Speaker 2>the plane or, in the Prime Minister's case, your own plane.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean that they don't come from different places,

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<v Speaker 2>but it means the people that they interact with are

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<v Speaker 2>not the people who are hurting, so they're just noise

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<v Speaker 2>to be dealt with. Well, I'm pleased to say that

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<v Speaker 2>the focus, the relentless focus that we have had for

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<v Speaker 2>the past couple of years, is now starting to be

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<v Speaker 2>echoing in the wider population. Because remember when I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're going to do when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the election. Good luck, it's always years away.

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<v Speaker 2>But for goodness sake, please tell a pollster that you're hurting.

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<v Speaker 2>Send a message to these people that you're still sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say for them seventeenth on, you're still

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach, and you remember them riding the wave

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<v Speaker 2>in a poll today, And of all things, the turnbul Times.

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<v Speaker 2>The Guardian shows that Australians, an extreme majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven percent, seven percent more than those who voted

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<v Speaker 2>Know in the referendum Prime Minister sixty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 2>people think that costa living gets worse in the next

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<v Speaker 2>twelve months. This is not a poll from last year.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a poll from the start of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a poll from basically the August. The Reserve Bank

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<v Speaker 2>tells us that they don't expect much to change in

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<v Speaker 2>the next six months, but the perception of Australians is

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<v Speaker 2>that their own personal finances will go backwards, the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of everything will continue to go up. And it's also

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<v Speaker 2>really important to say this. You don't have to have

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<v Speaker 2>an economics degree to be literate in what they often

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell you about things like cost of living.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is that inflation is measured every month and

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<v Speaker 2>then ultimately every three months, and the focus is always

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<v Speaker 2>just where it is this quarter, this quarter, this quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>this quarter. But the reality is, if you go back

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<v Speaker 2>to this point when they took over all of that

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<v Speaker 2>combines a little bit like federal budget deficits, the gallery

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<v Speaker 2>will have you believe that it only matters what this

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<v Speaker 2>year's number is. But the reality is if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty billion dollar deficit this year, it gets added

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<v Speaker 2>to all of the other deficits. Since the country was

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<v Speaker 2>able to balance its books and pay off its debt

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<v Speaker 2>that's of course two thousand and seven. Any future deficit

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<v Speaker 2>will be added to that. The expectation of the Treasury

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<v Speaker 2>is that we are in deficit for the next forty years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're already in are trigting in a bit dollars

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<v Speaker 2>worth of debt. To give you an idea of who

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<v Speaker 2>has this opinion, is it just the hardcore Paul Murray watches. No,

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<v Speaker 2>It's spread across the political spectrum, with one obvious exception

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are trying to cheer on their side

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<v Speaker 2>of politics and trying to believe the bs the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister throws their way. Seventy one percent of people who

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<v Speaker 2>vote for minor parties. Now, this could be everything from

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian socialists to oneation can be independence from Die in

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney all the way through to Bob Catter in North Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>Rebecca Sharky in South Australia and the independent voters of

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<v Speaker 2>Tasmania seventy one percent think that the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>gets worse for them in the next twelve months, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four percent of the opposition, sixty percent of the labor

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<v Speaker 2>parties partners in crime, and just a third of Labor voters,

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<v Speaker 2>but a third of Labour voters that are willing to

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<v Speaker 2>blow the whistle on their own parties bs because at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, despite the spin, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>gas lighting, despite just saying the words cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>like they're Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz saying there's

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<v Speaker 2>no place like home or beetlejuice. If you say cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living three times, guess what, it doesn't appear, and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't disappear. If you say it three hundred times,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't get better and it doesn't get worse. Action

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<v Speaker 2>is what we'll do that. But this government, despite its spin,

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<v Speaker 2>despite its too little, too late, despite its fiddling on

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<v Speaker 2>the edges, despite that, while I have a loaf of bread,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have some crumbs and you will be thankful

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<v Speaker 2>because they were your crumbs in the first place. There

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<v Speaker 2>are three ideas that the government that apparently at all

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<v Speaker 2>times was focused on cost of living that the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>public no are the true reality of the government when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to priorities as this, many people are in

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<v Speaker 2>this much trouble. Two years ago, they took fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars off people as an automatic tax return. That effectively

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<v Speaker 2>meant that there was a tax increase on ten million people.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as we're in tax time right now, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>finder dot Com that a U the financial services website,

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<v Speaker 2>told us that something like about a third of the

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<v Speaker 2>country looks forward to this time of the year because

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<v Speaker 2>there might be just a little chunk of change at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the complunk aim or tipping point as

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<v Speaker 2>it is these days, that they'll be able to take

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<v Speaker 2>that five hundred dollars or one thousand dollars and be

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<v Speaker 2>able to use that money to either kill off the

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<v Speaker 2>credit card, use that quick amount of money to do

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<v Speaker 2>something they need to do around the house. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>this not a little gift, because it's your money anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is this little moment like when you were

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<v Speaker 2>a kid and you opened up the birthday card and

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<v Speaker 2>you went, jeez, Nana, twenty bucks awesome, and that money

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<v Speaker 2>should have been there last year they took it away,

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<v Speaker 2>should have been there this year they took it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine what fifteen hundred dollars in a tax return guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>to ten million workers would do. Now when sixty seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people believe, I'd double check my number because

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise I got fact checked sixty seven percent. If people

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<v Speaker 2>say the cost of living situation is getting worse, this

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<v Speaker 2>government took it off them. This government that apparently cares

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<v Speaker 2>about cost of living, that desperately wants to pretend that

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<v Speaker 2>they are doing something, has increased petrol taxes. It is

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<v Speaker 2>now just under fifty cents per liter, fifty cents per lead.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you drive around, you have a look at

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<v Speaker 2>that price. Fifty cents of whatever that price is per leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Tax that's increased under this government. As I showed you

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, bottle of Bundi run.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty three percent of its tax. Sixty three percent of

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<v Speaker 1>it is tax.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, the ultimate goal of modern center left

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<v Speaker 2>let's be polite, but most likely hardcore left wing governments

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<v Speaker 2>that pretend not to be left wing governments. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to expand the size of government because the more people

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<v Speaker 2>who physically work for governments are more likely to end

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<v Speaker 2>up voting for center left parties who promise to never

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the size of government. These people expect that the

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<v Speaker 2>interaction with business should be that your biggest client is government,

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<v Speaker 2>so you'll never get upset with them when they make

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<v Speaker 2>bad decisions, because they have the power to regulate you

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<v Speaker 2>out of existence, to increase taxes on your businesses. You

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<v Speaker 2>run in sign an NDA, they do a take it

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<v Speaker 2>or leave it sandwich that is unpleasant to both smell

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<v Speaker 2>and taste, and you have to put up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or there's the people who, of course, are just financially

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on government. More money, more time, more jobs, all

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<v Speaker 2>the things connected to. Without daddy government, we'd all fall away.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that eventually builds to a permanent majority, where

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<v Speaker 2>as we know, a very small section of people are

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who actually pay the amount of tax that

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<v Speaker 2>the government then swirls around and throws back out. In

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<v Speaker 2>order to increase its to increase its power, and to

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<v Speaker 2>increase its control. This government could do an awful lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things to help with cost of living. Most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>it could double the amount of money that it funds

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<v Speaker 2>to every charity right now, perhaps even a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>they could shave off because the people who are most

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<v Speaker 2>in need, the ones who got nothing in a tax gun.

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<v Speaker 2>The people whose power bill goes up way higher than

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<v Speaker 2>the little credit that they're going to throw your way.

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<v Speaker 2>They need things like charities. Yeah, the charities of course,

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<v Speaker 2>relying upon donations the people who don't have the money

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<v Speaker 2>to see how the system shrinks. Government's got plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>money for its priorities. But when the people who are

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<v Speaker 2>suffering as a result in part of its policies are

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<v Speaker 2>not a priority enough to receive significant help today, well

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<v Speaker 2>it shows you. They rode the wave and now pretend

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<v Speaker 2>they've never been to the beach. May the people dunk

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<v Speaker 2>them sooner rather than later. There we go seven hundred references.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you like the metaphor. But of course the

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<v Speaker 2>real problem is Peter Dutton. Didn't you know that? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the great threat to Australia. He's the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>there's more homeless than ever before. He's of course the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why there's oh so many problems. He's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why there's all this sort of social social difficulties right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just Queen Laura Tingle, Lefty Laura Tingle, remember

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<v Speaker 2>what she had to say about how terrible it was

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<v Speaker 2>that he was planning to cut immigration which is what

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister was claiming to do. Oh but he's

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<v Speaker 2>claiming to do it a little bit deeper and promising

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<v Speaker 2>that foreign buyers wouldn't be able to outbid your kids

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<v Speaker 2>on a house. So of course Dutton's the problem for.

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<v Speaker 4>A major play calling this be saying, as Nicki says,

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<v Speaker 4>you know everything that's going wrong in this country is

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<v Speaker 4>because of migrants. And you know, I had a sudden

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<v Speaker 4>flash of people turning up to try to rent a

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<v Speaker 4>property or at an auction, and they look a bit

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<v Speaker 4>different whatever you defined different as the basically he has given.

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<v Speaker 2>Them license to be abused. Oh and of course, nasty

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<v Speaker 2>Nicki Sava, who of course was the co pilot in

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<v Speaker 2>that nonsense immigration tinder box Darton, evil racist, blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, all of this garbage as opposed to what

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<v Speaker 2>we all know, which is that who cares where you

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<v Speaker 2>come from? Of course we do care about what you

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<v Speaker 2>believe in terms of whether you want to be part

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<v Speaker 2>of the society that has been built here that is

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<v Speaker 2>respectful of race, gender, religion, no, religion, all the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of it. No, it's just literally about a scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>when hospital ramping means that when you call Triple O,

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<v Speaker 2>you may or may not get an ambulance. If you

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<v Speaker 2>do get an ambulance, you'll have to sit in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of it because there's no room in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>When you hear about governments turning around and go, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, come on in a million more in the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple of years, you start to realize that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>those cues might get a little bit longer. So I

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do with race, religion, anything else. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is the game they play, and Peter Arton, Peter Darton,

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<v Speaker 2>is the one who's causing the troubles. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great narratives that these people always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to distract from the actual failures of the actual government.

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<v Speaker 2>They like to tell you that the Liberal Party particularly

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<v Speaker 2>has a problem with women. Well amazingly again, same opinion

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<v Speaker 2>poll in the turnbul Times in the Guardian today two

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<v Speaker 2>party preferred Guess who's leading with female voters. Labour's down

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<v Speaker 2>by six since February of this year. The Libs are

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<v Speaker 2>up five since February of this year. The undecideds they

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<v Speaker 2>also are slightly up, but literally a five out of

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<v Speaker 2>six people moved from Labor to the Libs and only

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<v Speaker 2>one percent went onto the undecided pot. Well, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>significant statistical movement. But of course there will be a

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<v Speaker 2>scandal to remind us all why the Liberal party's terrible

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<v Speaker 2>and evil and amazingly those people in the press gallery

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<v Speaker 2>who again are cost of living that's just you either,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all. That's as really sticklical. It's not personal, but

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<v Speaker 2>apparently it was personal a couple of years ago. Go figure,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all the ones that are now saying the panic

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<v Speaker 2>and having ideas about tactics and how the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to save labor from himself, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that, of course the polls in things like the

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<v Speaker 2>City Morning All show us that fifty one percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the country, fifty one percent of the country believe the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister's performance is poor or very poor. Well, they

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that there's a little bit of Kamala Harris magic

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<v Speaker 2>or Kamala Harris magic. My apologies, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>offend anyone. It's just only the way the President used

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<v Speaker 2>to pronounce it. Anyway, Because Jason Claire had a slightly

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<v Speaker 2>smart ass answer to a question in question Time yesterday, Aha,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how the Democrats are calling the Republicans weird. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, there's now a plan for the Labour Party

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<v Speaker 2>to call the Liberal Party like weird, a new version

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<v Speaker 2>of weird, which means if it's working for her, then

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<v Speaker 2>it'll work for us, right please, Clueless Clara Now, she

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<v Speaker 2>may well have a new job, but guess what, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still CLARAO now and it seems she's just as clueless

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<v Speaker 2>in her new job as she was in the old job. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an incredible performer, which is code for talks

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<v Speaker 2>to the media a lot bying. They're back that being

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<v Speaker 2>other ministers, not her. But you know she's a great performer,

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing performer. Whenever the media talks up a specific

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<v Speaker 2>politician who you don't really know, it means they're really

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the social set of what's happening in Canberra.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel free to disapprove me wrong or Claire coming for

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and we can talk it out on it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, she got to the backside and the

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<v Speaker 2>Biscuit rightly so with Andrew Giles after their appalling performance

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<v Speaker 2>in Home Affairs. But there was nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 2>We only moved ministers because there was a reshuffle, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course she went from buggering up the borders to

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<v Speaker 2>now buggering up the quarter acre block because she is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in charge of the housing crisis, and

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<v Speaker 2>won't she be amazing. She was so good at home affairs,

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<v Speaker 2>so she'd be so amazing at housing. Well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>well done the PABA for noticing in the Daily maila

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<v Speaker 2>day that she's well the same clueless Clara. Now she's

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<v Speaker 2>as bad in this gig as she was in the

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<v Speaker 2>last gig, particularly in her performance in Parliament. Blundering Minister

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<v Speaker 2>Clara o'neili's face is left red faced during car crash

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<v Speaker 2>question time days after starting a new job. Oh but

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<v Speaker 2>she's a good performer. She's a good performer. Sorry, she

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<v Speaker 2>on the other line, she could performer. Here's how our

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<v Speaker 2>words salads failed to save her from an embarrassing era.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, she was debating again government housing policy, all

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of it, and she claimed that there was

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<v Speaker 2>all of this data to back it up, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the data came from Treasury, and Treasury must be

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<v Speaker 2>trusted because despite the fact they're always wrong on the budget,

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<v Speaker 2>they're so right on this.

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<v Speaker 3>The Treasury modeling for this bill tells us that we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to have an additional one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand rental units online in a period of a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, it doesn't exist. There is no Treasury modeling.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to assist Australians to have lots of different

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<v Speaker 3>rental options. What the research shows, what the experts shows,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the scheme in the Senate will build more homes.

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<v Speaker 3>There is dispute about how many homes, but it will

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<v Speaker 3>be tens of thousands of additional homes. Now, what I

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<v Speaker 3>would say to the Parliament is that if we want

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<v Speaker 3>to stop success and progress on this matter, then we

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<v Speaker 3>should play politics business as usual.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you noticed that, I'm a four D chess that

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<v Speaker 2>she's playing because she's a great perform a great performer,

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<v Speaker 2>great perform, a great performance. Sorry, she's still on the

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get back in a second. I'm just on the

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<v Speaker 2>air well her four D chess there where the bottling

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<v Speaker 2>is disputed. No, it's not disputed. It's not from Treasury.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that has been noticed by I hate to say this,

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens and the Liberals, but you know nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>see here, great performance, performer. And then of course there's

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<v Speaker 2>the CFMU. Now it's only one part of the CFMU.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the problem. So technically some of their representatives can

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<v Speaker 2>still be kind of in charge of the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting on National Executive being national vice presidents. Do nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to see here, we're going to clean up the same union,

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<v Speaker 2>but then we shut down the standing Royal Commission into

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<v Speaker 2>the Union. I mean, the Australian public doesn't see any

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<v Speaker 2>of this, does it well? Interesting question today from the

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<v Speaker 2>Shadow Housing Minister, Michael Suka, who's loving the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>he's got clueless Claire every afternoon at two o'clock on

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<v Speaker 2>national television.

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<v Speaker 5>During question time yesterday, the minister claimed some experts believe

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<v Speaker 5>CFMU corruption and illegality has and I quote no impact

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<v Speaker 5>on residential construction. Can the minister name those experts now?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the four d chs wonderful performer. Wonderful performer

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<v Speaker 2>that is Claire O'Neil, who was so amazing in her

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<v Speaker 2>last job that she got sacked from it by Anthony Albernezi,

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't sack well, plenty of underperforming ministers. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course the Finance Minister caught lying all those months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's her answer. Good perform great before and.

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<v Speaker 3>That question just following up on the shameless color ticking

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<v Speaker 3>of the green and we have again, oh liberal, come

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<v Speaker 3>forward and ask a question not about how we're going.

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<v Speaker 6>To build more homes for Australians, but.

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<v Speaker 3>About how we can play more politics in this parliament.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can tell you really clearly, Speaker, that my

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<v Speaker 3>focus on this rock, in this role is not about

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<v Speaker 3>what happens here in Parliament House.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyway, you were asked to name someone here, She's

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<v Speaker 2>not naming anyone and thus proving the point of the

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<v Speaker 2>question and guarantee she'll get more tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Referred to the minister's statements and asked her to name

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<v Speaker 5>those experts. Now, if the Minister cannot name those experts

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<v Speaker 5>because she made that up at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Disaster, Member four Deacon is making absolutely we no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>If he is concerned about the impact this union is

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<v Speaker 3>having on residential construction prices, then he can go into

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<v Speaker 3>his carcus room and talk to his senator colleagues about

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<v Speaker 3>helping our government clean up this union. Speak up, whether Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>what's up with these guys today?

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<v Speaker 6>Speaker, order the.

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<v Speaker 2>Great performer, Great performer. You may remember we spend four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty million dollars on a referendum last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, half a billion dollars whatever started out at

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<v Speaker 2>sixty forty Yes, we know it ended up sixty forty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>We also know that there is three prongs to the

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<v Speaker 2>Larus statement, which was a voice, a commission, a truth

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<v Speaker 2>telling commission where essentially the black armband version of history

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<v Speaker 2>would become the official arm band of history, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a treaty of which, as we know in Victoria, the

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<v Speaker 2>government doesn't rule out giving anything up and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what the demands are. Well guess what. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>again a surprising result in an opinion poll that comes

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Turnbull Times today and they were rather

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<v Speaker 2>shocked it was their lead story and then of course

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<v Speaker 2>was buried, very buried later. Only one third of voters

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<v Speaker 2>want a treating in truth telling commission with an Indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>voice or an Indigenous voice. The top button, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the dark blue, is last year's number, so let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to the light blue. Thirty seven percent support a truth

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<v Speaker 2>telling commission. Thirty five percent support a voice regardless of

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the fact that, of course it was defeated in the

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>passion that it was, meaning support has actually fallen for

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it since the election. Was a surprise. And even the

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 2>constitutional recognition question, well that too has now fallen to

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five percent. I love in these polls that, rather

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<v Speaker 2>than showing you how many people either don't care, don't know,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 2>or openly oppose, well, let me tell you a part

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 2>of the answers to our questions. You see, this was

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<v Speaker 2>the same polling that got us to sixty forty yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because there used to be remember about thirty five forty

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.360
<v Speaker 2>five percent of people who were definitely going to be yes, right,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and then we knew there was a significant number, almost

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 2>fifty that was going to be no. And then there

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 2>was just a bit that they never counted, and then

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 2>they just went, well, if you're forced. Interestingly, for all

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<v Speaker 2>of the times I've spoken about this pole and I

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<v Speaker 2>like it for some of its information, there was one

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>thing they magically took out of today's pole, the approval

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 2>rating of the Prime Minister. It's been there every other pole,

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>It's been on their website the whole time. But right

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<v Speaker 2>now may they be finding the same thing as the

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<v Speaker 2>other polsters. Fifty one percent of the country thinking the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister poor, very poor, no, not at all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Before in Queensland, we know that the Miles government is

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<v Speaker 2>set to hit a brick wall and hit it very hard.

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Of course, all the way to the end giggles Miles

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<v Speaker 2>will continue to giggle, thinking that he can spend as

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<v Speaker 2>much money as humanly possible, bankrupting the next and former government,

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>meaning that of course they would either have to raise

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.479
<v Speaker 2>taxes or cut back potentially or just go deeper into deficit,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>basically trying to lay land mines before an election for

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<v Speaker 2>a potential change in government. We know the latest polling

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 2>suggests that they would be wiped out. We also know

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 2>that they well, as I say, they spend so much

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>money up against the wall, including literally they've putting the

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>suggestion that they're going to build government owned petrol stations

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>still bring the price down after the election please. Unsurprisingly,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>none of this craps working. And now, apparently according to

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 2>the Courier mar Labor people are telling them, get ready,

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 2>we're going to try to save as much furniture as

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>we possibly can now in fairness the Labour Party. Of course,

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>when Cambellyman one way back when to fourteen years he

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>reduced the Labor Party to the number of MPs that

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>could fit in the tarago, literally Annasachia Palachet, last one standing,

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>ends up driving the car. Nobody expects her to be

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<v Speaker 2>the leader's ok sacrificial land at the next election from

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>they get a majority. Okay, So it doesn't matter in

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Queen's Land whether you're this high or this low. It

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>can all change in a few years time, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>how a look at this you are. Polling conducted by

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<v Speaker 2>the quarrymar last month revealed that the LNP has extended

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<v Speaker 2>its two party preferred lead to fifty seven fifty seven

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>forty three, marking a ten point swing since the twenty

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty election. Because she is keeping it thafe and clean

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>down hut and they'm at clean them memo and everyone

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>else there around the country is terrible and shouldn't come here.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>But we will take their GF team money. This points

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<v Speaker 2>to a potential loss of twenty three seats, including basically

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>anything north of the Sunshine Coast. The strategy is now

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to sandbag as many seats as they possibly can, particularly

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in the southeast. Why because remember they were able to

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<v Speaker 2>go from about what less than ten seats and come

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>back in an election. Their plan is to flush as

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>much bad wood and dirty dealers from this government so

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>when there is a chance to fight in another election

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>in four years time, well they'd be able to pretend

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing to see he completely knew. We're ready to go

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>a great performer. Now let's talk truth about what's happening

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in the United States. Trump is behind now winning and losing.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I have incorrectly said in the past that somebody was

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<v Speaker 2>winning or somebody's losing. Reality is, there's only one election

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>that happens officially on the first Tuesday in November, but

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<v Speaker 2>early voting can start as early as September. The book,

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<v Speaker 2>you say that Harris is now up and the chances

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<v Speaker 2>of her winning is their fifty two percent to Trump's

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>forty six. Yes, Titan, some things could change a little

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>bit here, a little bit there. As I've told you before,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the state of Arizona and the state of Pennsylvania, if

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>they both start moving blue, Trump can't win well. According

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to this latest poll third line state of Pennsylvania, Harris

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<v Speaker 2>up over Trump. I'm not breaking any news here, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is an interesting thing that Donald Trump is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do by trying to go around the traditional media,

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>which as we know, is basically they're not just carrying

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the water and they're trying to part the seas for

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris. So he went on x A Minion. People

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>listened to it live. I don't know why this wasn't

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a video and they just uploaded it after it had

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>been recorded. But you know, we've got to show how

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>amazing the platform is. And it was understandably very positive.

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Both like each other, fine and fair enough. But back

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to that point about the media and as we know,

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>applying no pressure, no standards, no questions, no interviews when

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes to Kamala Harris. Nothing to see here. This

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>is the front cover of Time magazine, the front cover

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<v Speaker 2>of Time magazine. Well, if the mainstream as they used

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>to call it, but I don't even think it's that.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the regime, it's the machine media, it's all the

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>rest of it. Meg and Kelly's particularly fired up about this,

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'll have a chat to on tomorrow night's program.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 2>There are lots of ways around it, and social media

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 2>in particular is the big way around it. Now. I

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>wanted to show you tonight and tomorrow and I'll show

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>you some examples of what is on these services. But

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 2>how Trump can still get a conversation going around the

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>gatekeepers of the establishment media, who, of course all about

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 2>access to the cool kit, and the cool kid at

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the moment is Kamala Harris. Have a look at x

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>falling known as Twitter. Now, obviously, just because somebody's a

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>follower doesn't mean they're a fan, but it certainly means

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>that your message can go around. Look at how many

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>people are hearing whatever Trump bangs out with his thumbs

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>versus what the staffer for Harris bangs out using their thumbs. Also,

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>if you're really hardcore, you follow team Trump or Team Kamala,

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and again they've got an advantage there. When it comes

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 2>to the Instagram, exactly the same twenty six million for Trump,

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>seventeen million for Harris, three million for Team Trump, and

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and twenty three thousand for Kamala Harris. Again,

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll show you examples of this tomorrow night. When it

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>comes to meta Facebook, thirty four million people get to

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>see unvarnished what Trump or his people want to post

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>similar breaksdowns. The only place where things are a little

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.479
<v Speaker 2>bit closer is, of course, the Chinese surveillance app known

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>as TikTok, where Harris is at four point four million,

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>but Trump's at nine point nine million. Interestingly, team Trump,

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the machine behind Trump, way behind the BS machine around

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Kamala so yes on TikTok in one of the indices,

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris well and truly ahead. Will that be important

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>with young voters? You bet you? But the size advantage

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>everywhere else, to go around the gatekeepers, to go around

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>the people who want to tell you Biden's completely fine, smart, amazing.

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Harris is qualified to be president because she was vice president,

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>but then she doesn't own any of the decisions that

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>were made as vice president. The same media that turns

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>around and says she's a completely blank canvas, despite the

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>fact there's lots of tape of what she's believed before

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the last election. Social media is the place where those

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>messages play out. It's, of course, where left wingers say

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>there's misinformation, as opposed to the misinformation that's currently running

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 2>and parading as the press gallery of the Washington Press

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>right now. Completely fine with the fact that she's not

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>asking answering questions because then that have to come up

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>with them, and if they had to come up with them,

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>they may well end up being tough. And by tough,

0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Madam President, how are you I'm here on

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Murray Life. Thank you very much for watching.

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<v Speaker 7>Gus.

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<v Speaker 1>Were are having to be big debate. Let's get into

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it in the moment.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Or Tuesday time here with Joe hilde Brand, with Lisa

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<v Speaker 2>god They're both in the man cave. This will be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going here.

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<v Speaker 1>How exciting a full man cave on a Tuesday night.

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm rather excited here.

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<v Speaker 1>The wonderful Lisa god Art, how are you?

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 6>First time in over four years?

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>There you go? Well, remember you know Sky News man

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>caves for Sky News. You know anyway that happens the

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:32.479
<v Speaker 2>man no way?

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the wonderful Joe hilder Brand, of course, Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>my man, I'm not doing you a touch of class,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't you?

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<v Speaker 6>Gentlemen?

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Listen to your but all right, only media find it

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<v Speaker 2>all online and I'm on Joe's podcast. Will plug all

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 2>that nice and proper for you in the next couple.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Of days digital ID.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I know an awful lot of people write emails to

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>be about it, and I know an awful lot of

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>people are particularly passionate about it, and for the communication

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>we get fearful of it. It of course is now

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the law of the land. But the program is now

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>starting to roll itself out now, Joe, I don't know

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>whether you can answer a question for me on this

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 2>or not. Does everyone just get one in your MyGov

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>app or do you have to double click to buy

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<v Speaker 2>into the system?

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<v Speaker 7>I do not know, and I think they're still working

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<v Speaker 7>that out. I think it'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>I would imagine it would have to be an opt

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 8>in thingwise, otherwise it would be like how you two

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 8>put all their B sides in your iPhone and tell

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 8>anybody that is going to backfire.

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<v Speaker 7>Spectacular. But I did just want to read out.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 8>I've just prepared this one little quote which I just

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 8>thought was the most ABC comment every that's right, that's right,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 8>But the ABC story has written just in a completely

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 8>straight news piece.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 7>It's proposed trust exchange.

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<v Speaker 8>System, which is an ominous word, trust exchange, gold standard exchanging.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 7>Trust with today. I mean, if you're going to exchange trust,

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 7>when you at least wear some protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was going to say I have thereo's active consent.

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 8>But it's proposed trust exchange system would use QR codes

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 8>made popular during the COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>N how popular.

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<v Speaker 7>Whom some porkin right into the av's everything. Oh yeah,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 7>these are really popular.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 8>It's like, you know, it's like reading the newspaper is

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 8>really popular when you've been kidnapped and you've got a

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 8>gun to your head. I just wanted to reading the

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 8>newspaper with today's dating is today's date.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love telling everyone how much to day exactly.

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think the issue here right, and obviously I

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>understand those that are hardcore about this to screaming and

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>the teller get into the issues getting my point is

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>this right, The legislation has passed, Okay, so the time

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 2>for being able to unscramble that egg alas has gone

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>at the time those who tried to talk about it

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>again your nudders and all the rest of it. So

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the practicals here right now. Again. What

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>they will claim to be the advantages is is that essentially,

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 2>rather than having to fill out the same form seven

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>hundred times, there's this one thing that you'll be able

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>to access. That means they'll give the information for you. However, However, however,

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>my and why I just want the opt in system

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to automatically in it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing whole, but I don't want the readout of where

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I was and what I did and if signing in

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 2>to licensed venues is going to be part of this, Sorry,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, we went through this with COVID right, everyone tracking

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 9>us through what coffee shop you went to, what hotel

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 9>you went to, what not? Do you have anything to

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 9>hide necessarily? But you don't want yourself well, you know,

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 9>I'm trying to be you know, its television, I'm being good.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 9>But you don't want the government knowing everywhere you go.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 9>And that's the problem. And I don't know the MyGov

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 9>app itself like.

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 6>Given me strength. Every time I've tried to use that

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 6>app itself, it's a nightmare.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 7>It's way better than it used to be.

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 6>Hav another courage to go under.

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<v Speaker 2>The previous government?

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Is that what it is? That's what it is that

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Clara Neal is a great.

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<v Speaker 6>To describe today as a honeypot for cyber attack.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course it is.

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a fut of the rainbow because remember the data

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 2>was that there was a data leaks at state level

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 2>when this was all propped up in and around.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So again, the issue is that if there's a repository.

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<v Speaker 2>Of information, do I agree to be put in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the pot of information or am I already in

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 2>the pot of information? And the only consent that the

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>only play, the only way I get to play into

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the system is whether I do or don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>access the pot of information.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, to be honest, it's high risk, high reward.

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 8>It's like the e health system, which was going to

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 8>be fantastic, but nowadays so few people opted into it,

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 8>and it was so sort of piecemeal that you go

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 8>to anyone who's had any experience with the health system,

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 8>it's awesome, but the basic stuff that just often gets missed.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 8>That I know because my wife knows all this sort

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 8>of stuff about my kids when they're in there and

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 8>they'll tell one person that he needs this medication that

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.800
<v Speaker 8>doesn't get passed on because it's all just put on

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 8>a clipboard on the end of the bed like that.

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 7>That is not going to last forever.

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 8>This is like the new Australia card and no one

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 8>likes it, but sooner or later, this is going to

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 8>be the way of the future. Just like you know,

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 8>the bit of paper that used to be a driver's

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 8>license is never going to be sure and if you're

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 8>using a credit card. The government has always already or

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 8>bank is already tracking every single place you know.

0:38:59.760 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 7>There.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to go into a very detailed story here,

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>but i'll save you. As you know, in Brisbane, right

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 2>after a certain time of nine, everyone's got to pull

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>out their driver's license to go into and it's scanned

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's kept. And again there's that moment where you go, Okay,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind checking ideas because and I get that

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>what they're trying to do is have a database of

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>on you're a bad person who did something wrong, But

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>socially it's clearly acceptable because it's the only way to

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 2>get to the pub.

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 6>But cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a very strange experience having to create a

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 2>footprint in something that's very social and it feels like

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>to me that it's about trying to create a digital

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>footprint in areas where the government's why do they need

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 2>to know anything about this?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, from what I read today, it was opt in.

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<v Speaker 9>It is opt in, but it's access to your passport,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 9>you know, Like I said, the licenses online now, so

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 9>it is all there.

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 6>And my concern is the risk of a cyber attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just think it's just the I mean simultaneous

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that we're always told about be careful with your data,

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to be careful with your data. How many companies, Oh,

0:39:58.080 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>where the magical government will be okay because we're paying

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Amazon billions of dollars for a cloud when it comes

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 2>to the National Defense Network, which I know is different

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 2>than next you said now never, you know I didn't vote.

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>You know I pushed hard against Bill Shorten. I would

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>never vote for him under any circumstances. But he was

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 2>right when he was on Channel two last night talking

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>about whether gambling advertising should be completely banned, whether it

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 2>should be capped, or whether it should be a free

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 2>for all. Here he is being asked by a bunch

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of pearl clutches, I'm not convinced that complete prohibition works.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 10>I think that we can do better than just one

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 10>hour before, during and one hour after.

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 10>There's no reason why gambling ads should be on when

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 10>there's kid shows on. There's no reason why they should

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 10>be infiltrating the digital markets.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 2>He also went on to say it is an important

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>source of revenue for commercial broadcasters. I know this is

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 2>breaking news to ever run over at Channel two, but

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 2>you need revenue in order to be able to employ

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>order the people who work for it, the people you like,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and yes to the people you don't like.

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the way it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you on this, because I understand the people

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>that are You know, this is a vice, you know,

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>flush it from our eyes. But it's also legal. And

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like nobody taxed lead paint. Nobody limited the advertising

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>of lead paint. They got rid of it. Instead with tobacco. Oh,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>we'll tax it, but you can't advertise it. This will

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>tax it, but you can advertise it.

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And it's one of those advertising campaigns where it's

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 9>it's like in America where you sit there and you

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 9>watch the medication.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 6>It's going to change you. It's going to change your life.

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 6>It's going to stay. But you know the fine print

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 6>is you know it's going to kill you.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 7>Correct.

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 6>At least these at least these ads.

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<v Speaker 9>Do have the disclaimer at the end of it. But

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 9>I do understand from a parent's perspective, when the kids

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 9>are there and they're seeing it, I don't think of

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 9>you want your family around watching sport that they should

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 9>be watching. Yes, gambling is it is something you should

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 9>be doing. However, there is the issue of when they're

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 9>on YouTube or they're online playing video games, they are

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 9>also being targeted with very similar ads.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, this is the thing, This is the thing.

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 2>All of the powers that exist, generally speaking, are about

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>what's been around for a long time. The problem is

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 2>in the space they have no ability to regulate, which

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 2>is the stuff that could be coming out of a

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, a digital farm in Barbados.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's why I'm really suspicious of syntaxes.

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<v Speaker 8>Not only do they tend to punish the poorest people

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 8>who are reverting to things like these to ease their

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 8>you know, he's their pain, he's their soci situation because

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 8>they can't afford other stuff. So things like taxing sugary

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 8>drinks so there's unaffordable, or taxing mackers, or driving up

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 8>the cost of cigarettes.

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 7>And this is kind of like I just don't understand.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 8>I'm all for harmonimization and that sort of thing, but

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 8>it strikes me as just passing weird that the sort

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 8>of progressive agenda is you know, ban all gambling ads,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 8>ban fast food, ban sugary drinks, legalized drugs. But then

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 8>exactly like thank you does banning it driving underground and

0:42:58.320 --> 0:42:59.879
<v Speaker 8>men you can't regulate it, and you don't know who's

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 8>it or not.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 2>And again the worst and then the reason it has

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to be legalized is because nobody knows what's technically.

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 8>Theirst form of gambling isn't betting on the Australian Open

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 8>or horse racing. It's poker machines, and advertising for them

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 8>is already banned and indeed, as the less point or

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 8>yours like whenever kids are online or whatever on your phone,

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 8>there are a thousand different games they could play that

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.280
<v Speaker 8>perfectly replicate poker machines to give them that buzz.

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 7>And of course as soon as they say a real

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 7>wh they're going to do it anyway.

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 8>So you know, either you're making people smart enough to

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 8>make smart decisions or you're just locking them up in

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 8>a padded cell and banning everything we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Apart from anything else. Experienced reporters, crisis communications people, direct

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>personal advisors to the Prime Minister here, so a wide

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>series of brains to get across the issue of how

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<v Speaker 2>does Trump save the campaign from himself? Next morn to

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0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>here with of course at least got and with the

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Joe Hildebrand. Let's talk about Trump. So I mentioned the

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>point before. Look, we know that the traditional media has

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 2>all just decided Harris clean slate queen all the way through, right,

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna sit in bitch and moan about it.

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 2>And there's plenty of accountability to come from the bitching

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and moaning about it. However, as I pointed out before,

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump's advantage on social media in terms of number of

0:44:55.880 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 2>followers is thumping thumpingly large. All right, Now you can

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>cut videos and it's all great, but then the guy

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>has to follow up with the message. Right as a

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>person who has only given wonderful advice to wonderful clients,

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>but just imagine that there was one who doesn't really

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:15.879
<v Speaker 2>follow much advice and it's kind of looking over him.

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 2>How do you get somebody to pay attention that if

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 2>they don't get it right, it's not going to end

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the way they want it to.

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<v Speaker 9>Especially when you're the one taking the calls from the

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 9>media when it goes bad, right and you're having to

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 9>shield them. Look, I would hate to be doing Trump's media.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 9>He is a force of his own making and he

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 9>does what he wants to do. And I think matching

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 9>him with Musk today that was great because the two

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 9>of them, as long as it was two hours, they just.

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 6>Both better off each other. So I think that's great.

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 9>And he is owning those channels because he is not

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 9>getting a fair run apart from you on Foxy, he

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 9>just doesn't get a fair run, So he has to

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 9>own his own media and I think increase. That's what

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 9>we're seeing with legacy media dropping off for being so biased.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 9>You have to find ways to get out there on your.

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Own well, and Joe, you've sort of got you know,

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 2>for a man with two feet, you have seven feet

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and seven different camps, which I appreciate.

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, very supple you.

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 2>You know the difference between sort of the quick in

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>and outside of chat on the telly and then increasingly

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>what millions of people turn to, which is a longer form,

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>looser chat. Right that it could be ten, fifteen, twenty

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 2>an hour. The Joe Rogan can be the two hour stuff, right.

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 2>That stuff can help you because people get to hang

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 2>out and go chee, you know what. I kind of

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 2>like that person. And then conversely they can turn around

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and take something for a minute twenty eight and go click,

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and then you seem like you're crazy. Do you think

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that there are people who would tune in to something

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 2>with a Trump who are kind of the independence going

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what?

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot. I'm just going to double check

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>is he crazy right now?

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 7>Is he not?

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Which Trump is turning up?

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 7>I think?

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 8>And again it's so hard to tell, And it's so

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:57.879
<v Speaker 8>hard to tell in an election where you know half

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 8>the game is getting out of the vote. But I

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 8>think Trump is such a known quantity that if you

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 8>are voting for him.

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 7>You are all in on him. You will wade through

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 7>a pit of lava.

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 8>To get to the polling booth and you will vote

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 8>for Donald Trump as many times as you.

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Like a bend. You know all the deep cuts, you

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 2>know everything from every album, not just the single.

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 8>I think it's the same untruth social or when you're

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<v Speaker 8>sitting down with El Musk. I just cannot picture any

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<v Speaker 8>sort of ambivalent, slightly apathetic swing voters who are still

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<v Speaker 8>undecided thinking, oh, you know, I'll vote for him. And

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<v Speaker 8>I think that and I think the problem is I

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<v Speaker 8>think the problem for Trump is that Karmala has brought

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<v Speaker 8>out a whole bunch of people who were not going

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<v Speaker 8>to vote for Joe Biden. It was a sort of

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<v Speaker 8>the double head as a pox on both your houses.

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<v Speaker 8>And people have come out and said, oh, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 8>looks all right. She presents well, you know, as long

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<v Speaker 8>as she's not challenged on anything or it's not live

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<v Speaker 8>and it's all scripted, you know, she can talk well.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think the question will be I think this

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<v Speaker 8>election is now Karmal is to lose. It will be

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<v Speaker 8>whether or not, like people who are a bit more

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<v Speaker 8>switched on politically, the more they see, the less they like,

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<v Speaker 8>and whether or not she falls apart in a debate.

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<v Speaker 2>So alive, let me just ask one question in our

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<v Speaker 2>final minute here. I think there's one thing that does

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<v Speaker 2>break through everything, which is funny. Try to find something

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<v Speaker 2>to be funny about. Do a funny meme, Do the

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<v Speaker 2>funny stuff, because funny pushes through all of the deep

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<v Speaker 2>cuts and everyone knowing everything right.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know the memes go out there.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think Kamala's issue is she's just not doing interviews.

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<v Speaker 9>They can't make a judgment call, and she's protecting herself

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<v Speaker 9>by hiding away. So there was a question threaten at

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<v Speaker 9>her a few days ago. She said, people will organize

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<v Speaker 9>it by the end of the month, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Which they're all okay, and they're all the defenders of

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<v Speaker 2>democracy and all the rest of it. But when it's there,

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<v Speaker 2>we get.

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<v Speaker 7>The it's on the cover of time. That's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, because we read that every week. Thank you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>do appreciate it. Thank you very much. See tomorrow, look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to the potty and we'll see it very soon

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<v Speaker 2>in Brizzy. All right, quick break and back with the

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<v Speaker 2>late debate. Moments from now, looking forward to the wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>Megan Kelly on the show tomorrow night. If you don't already,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to her show Serious XM, but also find her

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and her YouTube. She is right on the edge

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<v Speaker 2>and she is never backing down on how bad Harris

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<v Speaker 2>is and particularly how bad the VP is. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to her

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<v Speaker 7>T