WEBVTT - #50 | Joel 'Sugar' Caine 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:00.840 So much comedy. 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:03.920 Goal you go to your sponsored year on two Cooper, Joel, 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:07.800 You're goes. It's a never ending stream of freebies just 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:09.799 arriving at outdoor all the time. Soon as we hear knock, 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.680 don't we jack, We just don't. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:13.840 Bother it to Cooper. Yeah. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:17.599 Yeah, Well letting people know as well, who got half 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.599 of my freebies the other day because they didn't fit me? 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:20.640 Who got them? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:21.520 It was me? 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.439 Yeah, yeah, because they didn't fit you. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.160 And then don't be ungrateful that I'm getting freebies because 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.720 I'm always flicking you guys. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:29.240 Always flicking. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.120 Yeah, you go, you go through my stuff to ensure 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:34.600 that I haven't taken any of your stuff. 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.479 My room's like the boxes that come to me. It's 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.280 like a Saint Vincent de Paul dumping box. I just 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:41.480 go and put it on on. 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.239 Dad's bed, and anything that's in my room sugar all 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.400 the time. He'll come in and steal it, sugar his room. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.400 He's he is a hoarder, really yeah. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.560 He's the stuff that I've found in your eyes up advertising. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:55.920 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.760 Now I've always struggled, like with culling, like I used to, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:05.800 Like I'm pretty well documented I used to steal Maniac yeah, massive. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.280 Clet I was taking him into Triple M. I used 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.840 to steal everything off people's head. He stole ten bucks 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.360 off Jamie Angel, the Boss once. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.480 Off his desk. Yeah. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.000 Chris Page, who was Matthew's Panelotte, had a lot of 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.880 these things in his like horny. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.880 Goat weed, remember that stuff? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.840 So yeah, yeah, And I was like twelve, and I 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.240 just took it, not knowing what it was. And I 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.280 was like, well, I didn't need any use for it, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:27.960 and at that time, which had it now? 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.399 Because I could put it to good use these days? 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.399 What was pages review on the horny gateweed? 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:33.679 I don't know. I don't know. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.520 You guys were like you guys had heaps of it 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:36.960 in a Triple M. I don't know whether they were 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:37.920 a sponsor or something. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.479 There's lots of things we play all sorts of tricks 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.600 in Shenanigans. Someone would be going to the airport, traveled 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.880 on to Brisbane and we had a massive, big dildover there, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.240 big and we used to strap it to a diot. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.040 And camp stuff. Pretty MG's back. How are you enjoying 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:52.720 working with Fletch? 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.559 Good mate? Well, you know what it's light and just 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:56.960 just a knock a bit. I think it kind of 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:01.760 works because he's he's the youngest of seven fletch. Yeah, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.680 and I'm the eldest of six. He has he got 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.160 seven of that. Yeah's youngest, youngest of seven, Bryan Nathan Fletcher. Yeah, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.639 grew up in an apartment too, a three bedroom apartment, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:14.760 so with seven kids. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.200 Yeah, everything in the Eastern Suburbs. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.040 In the Eastern Suburbs. His mother is still there today. Yeah, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:20.959 the same same apartment. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.280 Because flat choice explains like this, in the old days, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.400 in the old days of Sydney, the coast was not 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.919 a coveted area because you know, they were concerns about 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.480 invasion and whatnot, particularly the Japanese, and so people would 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.799 generally want to live inland and it was only generally 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:44.000 the poor, the lower socio economic households that would live 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.280 on the coast, including the Eastern suburbs. How things change, Yeah, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:54.960 sure sure, sure, no fears invasion have you around here? 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.440 Yeah, this place is has followed on apart jold. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.080 Joel, you're the eldest of five. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.320 Elders is six, so mum and dad had five and 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.920 then mum, we've got a beautiful half brother Joey. So yeah, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.160 so middle name John actually Joey John's. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.520 Yeah, Joey John. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.840 Tell you what I've spun this before on the Family podcast. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.920 There's a bloke down the road. There's a few of 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:18.560 these as well. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:19.160 I used to play. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.280 I played with the Matheson. John's short named Maddie John's. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.080 His instagram is Madde John's played at Penrith and the Dragons. Actually, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.160 but there's a real estate agent around here. His name's 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.320 Maddie John's. He actually works with Brad Parker because Parks 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.360 is now a commercial real estate agent with. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.040 The hardboard Hilton. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.640 Heah come up, yeah, because he rang me after I 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.680 plugged him on the Poddy saying mate, there's this bloke 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.880 on TikTok and he's like, hey, guys, what's up. Maddie 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.560 John's here, come to the open house and everybody always 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.600 praised him on it, going you're not for Maddie John's. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.440 But that bloke he used to be on the Tricia 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.960 podcast yesterday with a couple of two dotings. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.000 Two doting dads, Maddie Jay and Schwitz. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:03:59.720 Was on the Bachelorie. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.360 Yeah, someone told him changed his name because he would 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.400 say on the phone or sudden they go, oh, yeah, 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.640 Maddie Johnson and they go oh football. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.560 Yeah, he's a real estate agent and I hadn't heard 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.640 of this blake and apparently killing it in the States 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.960 leonce so higher. He's a real estate agent over the 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.440 States flying They tell me, wow, good guy Lance. Yeah. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.080 Remember the time in the in the Super Grand Final 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.880 where he got belted king hit and the guy who 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.880 hit him didn't just get suspended. I think he had 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.360 a jail jail say. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.279 That video was bad. Yeah, I remember it when viral forbid. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.560 He was a big dude too. Yeah, it looked like 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:39.600 he had he jobbed him. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.480 And then when Lance ht the ground, he hit him 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.880 while he was down and he got yeah, got sent 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.200 off immediately and ended. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.600 Up having to out of court. He got sentenced. Well, 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:48.320 I don't know what it was. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:49.719 Yeah, it was a big dude. Looked like he had 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.280 more than creatine and his sister. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.680 So so so six in the family. What's the breakup? 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.560 So five boys and one girl, right, Yeah, it must 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.800 have been all the boys born in the city. My 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.560 sister was born in the country. Ye, it was pretty 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.400 You know what When I was a kid, boys, I 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:12.479 was very resentful to my parents, who were beautiful people 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.280 still got them Dave and Bernie separated. I was very 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.640 resentful for the upbringing. I'd be thinking, why did this 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:20.400 happen to me? 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:21.360 Victim? 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.640 You know, why did this happen to me? And then 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.640 when you get older and you learn things and you 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.440 think about all the good things that came out of it, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.760 I've sort of changed my thinking to you know, why 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.280 did this happen for me? You know, why did this upbringing? 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.599 At the time, it was very chaotic, you know, very 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:37.320 very chaotic. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:38.960 So an example with traveling. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.000 Yeah, so I went to ten schools, ten. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.640 Schools in the same area. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.400 In ten schools and never got to year twelve, right, So, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.280 and it wasn't discipline. It was mum and dad together 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:57.360 from a young age, from sixteen pregnant have a young 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.160 boy sadly passes. His name's Nash. So I always said 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.880 to myself, if I have a boy, my first boy 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.119 is going to be Nash. And that's my third child. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.839 We've got two girls, two boys. He's Nash. But then quickly, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.160 you know, that scarred them, so they now that was 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.120 an accident, but now they need to sort of fill 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.120 that gap and they have me at the young age 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.479 of about eighteen or nine am. So they've got me, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.120 and then fourteen months later they've got Rick and three 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.320 of us end up playing first grade. Rick the one 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.880 behind me, he was the best of the lot, you know, great, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.600 great talented kid. Anyway, so by the time Mum and 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.240 Daut of twenty eight, they've got five kids. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:33.000 Jesus. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.840 But to rewind a little bit, Dad was a young 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.640 constable in the course, and one day they get this 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.120 card to go to this paddock and this knocked him 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.200 around a lot. So he gets his Cordgaut with this 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:50.040 paddock and these cops all descend upon this particular area 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.599 out in the west of Sydney and there's a bloke 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.480 and this is a different story. This bloke is there 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.919 and later gets charged with knocking off female redch grundies 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.479 off clotheslines. Right, so the yes, the cops turn up 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.479 and catch this bloke in the action, but that's not 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.839 what they're there for. One of the cops sets aside, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.200 pinging him and they work out what he's been doing. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.200 But the real reason they were there. The rest of 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.360 the cops march on down this paddic where this tip off, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.320 it happened, and Dad and a few of the other 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 cops who are with him, they're first on scene for 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:25.040 the Anita copy murder. Oh Jesus, yeah, jesus, yeah. It 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.120 makes me every time I sort of hair stand up. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.240 But oh wow. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.600 For a long time Dad and never talk about it, 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.760 But the brutality from these pigs, these pigs, these travers 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.520 brothers and others, what they did to this girl. And 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.720 you can imagine what I did, knock a fam around. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.360 So it's as a result of that, you know, Dad 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.800 wanted to get out of the city, and he got 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.280 an offer to go to Lake car Jelligo, where you're 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.520 almost the only cop in town, maybe you and another 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.920 one or two. It's really hard to police in the 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.120 in those rural areas because on the one hand, you've 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.600 got to sort of keep ordering town, but on the 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.680 other hand, everyone knows where you live, everyone sees you 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.640 down the pub. You sort of got to win some 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.440 people over. So my dad, he's sort of you're stuck 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.720 between a rock and a hard place. But he was 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:14.040 really good to the locals where you know, things like Condoblan. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.520 If Condoblan cops turned up on the CB the only 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.560 reason they would turn up on the ceab is because 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.360 they're coming to Lake Jellyga. So Dadd had ring all 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.480 the pubs. He'd say, guys, with sort of a half 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.520 a wink over the phone, you know you're not spased 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.400 to drink and drive. You definitely ain't better not drive 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.440 to night. Right, I'm catching up with the condo cops. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.880 And they'd all know people in town that, okay, the 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.880 condo cops are coming in town. That means the RBT 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.080 he's coming to town. So Dadd had let everyone know 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.120 in town things like that. Rightly or wrongly, you'd do it. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.079 But there was one kid running a mark and he 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.760 even spoke to the parents and said, look, I think 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.240 for the better of him, we've got to take him. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.319 I've looked after him. I've put a lot of the 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.320 stuff under the carpet. It was a school holiday. So 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:56.839 this guy's in the back of the paddy wagon and 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:58.520 he's going to court down at West Wylong. That was 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.880 the nearest court ear and half away. And I'm in 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.000 the passengers seat and so here I am, young kid, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.360 this is the life on you. I'm just sitting in 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.400 the court and this magistrate character. So he's getting stuck 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.920 into this young kid. He said, mate, list after the list, 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.560 after the list, after item after item. You need some 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.160 time away. He said, I'm going to hit you with 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.280 six months in jail. And this kid's got the rats tail. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.800 He's chewing gum gun Barrel looked at the magistrate. He said, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.200 six months, six months. I'll do that stand and I'm 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.720 good ahead, and the magistrate country Blake Larry and he said, oh, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.599 excuse me, court attendant, could I just have you for 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.880 a second. She comes back over. It's going to make 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.760 a little amendment, gets the pen. Sorry, sir, I forgot 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.240 one thing. He said, I'll give you. I'll give you 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.360 twelve months. He said, I'll give you six months to 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.000 stand on your head, and I'll give you six months 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.000 to get back on your feet. And this is the 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.480 type I think. This is the life we sort of 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.440 sort of grew up with. Then he went and bought 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.720 some pubs, and so we just moved and moved and 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.680 moved and moved. And I resented my family for that. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.040 The amount of footy clubs you play with, the amount 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:00.319 of people say I used to go to with you, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.640 and I'm like spinning the wheel, I wouldn't know you're 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.160 there for and it's quite traumatic as a kid meeting 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.000 new people all the time. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.280 What positions you play growing up? Rugby league? 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.880 Probably five eight? Like a kid like speed and running 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.280 was my asset. But you know, you get away with 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.080 it in the country as a five eight, even though 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.240 it wasn't really much of a ball player. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.400 Were you like, I'd imagine the main thing you bond 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.600 over other kids with when you get to all these 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.000 different towns is rugby league. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.800 Were you were good junior? Like you came in and 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.120 everyone was like all these blokes. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.000 Again, so that definitely helps and the whole family, Like 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.600 we would go to trophy day and like any given day, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.120 my dad, who was a horrible athlete, right, he would 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.839 have Joel scored five, Rick scored six, Puld scored four, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.760 Tyne scored six. So you know, some parents get to 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.040 see Johnny score a try and it's like dad was 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.559 getting twenty tries every week, you. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.959 Know, Yeah, Joel, can I just take the step back 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.680 there for a second about the impact the anitacopy murders 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.000 had had on him and for the boys. You know 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.800 a lot of younger viewers will not be aware of. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:10.880 This could be i'd say, possibly the most infamous murder. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.439 Australian history. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.600 Yet where was it located? 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:16.559 Black Tea. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.680 Yeah, we're not going to go into details, but it's 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:24.320 absolutely horrific. And I remember getting the book somebody else's daughter. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.280 And read it. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.560 I got about twenty pages in I just threw it away. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.640 It was just too disturbing. But what effect did you 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.800 see on your father? 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.880 Yeah? You know what I saw, which I probably lived 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:42.400 through myself post career, right, was a lot of alcohol 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.000 in our family, and a lot of financial pressure in 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.600 our family, and a lot of kids. And so Mum 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.439 and Dad really were just ducks in a pond and 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.720 they're just surviving. And the amount of times and as 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:53.960 I said, I love them to death, and they were 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.400 dealing with what they could do at the time. But 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.439 with a lot of alcohol, a lot of stress, there's 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.280 a lot of fights. Right, So we lived in at 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.200 Mum and Dad were just fighting all the time, you know. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.719 And the funny thing is not funny thing, but of 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.960 all of my siblings who have gone on to get married, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:13.079 we've all married into families who parents have been together 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.319 the whole time and stable families they've lived in the 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:16.960 same area the whole time. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.720 We've all sort of got gravitated that. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:23.360 Yeah, my wife you probably know Wayne Smith, third most 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.080 cap Magpie. I married his eldest daughter and their family 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.839 is very much I see something about Wayne. Actually remember 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.480 back in the day, Maddie, you'd finished the game and 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.360 the wives or the girlfriends they wait outside, and I 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.559 was sort of anound for I'd have long showers. I'd 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:37.679 just be in there all day, you know, and k 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.520 shit's why I'm always the last one late, and I 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.240 just love to just chill in the shower. I have 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.960 a beer and chat the boys. And anyway, I got 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.679 invited this Legend's day, and I don't know how the 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.800 freaking how I got invited, but Wayne certainly was invited. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.600 He was a legend of the West Magpies, so he 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.040 should be there. They'll probably added up the numbers and 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.920 we're taken on Satler and all the bunnies, and I've 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.079 got to start. It's a muck around game out there 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.440 at Redfernoval. And so after the game, having my routine, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.920 first in the shower, probably going to be the last out, 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.880 and the father in law you have a shower with 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.920 your father in law boys, or your girlfriend's dad. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:16.480 Unfortunately Tony's passed. No, I know Tony Truci's dad wasn't 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.320 sort of the guy that she imagined. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.120 If Tony fancy having a shower up for it. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.440 So Wayne's six foot six foot two or something fit 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.599 as a fear of even to this day runs a 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.040 sea anels good bloke and he comes in with the 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:35.120 towel over his shoulder and then the penny drops. I've 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.240 just worked out, right at this moment why his mates 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.800 call him knackers? Right, that was his nickname, which his 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.680 wife Lyne hates that they call him that. But that 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.560 was the very first time I worked out, Oh, Wayne, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.000 that's why they call your knackers. And then quickly I'd 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.200 left the building. I was very quickly out that day 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.000 to show with your father in law, well under your 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.840 Wayne too, by the way, unusual experience. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.160 Did he give you us? Did he like have a 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:58.000 look at you up and down? 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.800 He did? He did? He did? Yeah, having try, I 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.280 would have thought he won the battle. Yeah. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.360 So back on your father in law for one second. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:10.240 Yeah, because now letting people know if you're you know, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.080 those people are listening that aren't rugby league players. When 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:14.920 you are a rugby league player, you're an ex rogay 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.840 league player, and you you might have a daughter or 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.880 a son. Probably the your first instinct is, probably I 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.160 don't want my daughter to und up with another rugby 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.800 league player, because you know it could be scally action 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.600 time that I'm out with the boys all the time. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:34.840 Probably not renowned family men. When you first met your missus, was. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.040 Was he very like hard with you? 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:36.200 Like? 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.240 Was he very skeptical on your Yeah? 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.920 I imagine it was. But when we first met, actually 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.120 Kobe's telling her dad we met at this touch football 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.160 tournament and Kby is telling her that I bet this 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.760 guy and what's his name blah blah blah, and he's 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.000 an electrician. I told her I was an electrician, which 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.120 which I am qualified as an electrician. And then he said, Kabe, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.280 he's not electrician. He's playing footy, you know, And then say, yeah, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.880 I mean as I would be the same thing keeps, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.400 you know, I'd be very skeptical. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.080 So the towns you went to and the schools, what 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.880 was was what was the most difficult town to live in? 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.120 And where would you Is there any town that you 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.040 go gravitate and go back there. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.000 Yeah. We finished high school in Port McQuary. That was good, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.040 you know, like Bonnie Hills, northapn Port McQuary. But we 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.680 lived in this little town of eighty people and there 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.240 was I think there was like eleven at the school 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.000 and five of them were us. You know, like we 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.320 had a little pub in that town, New Bridge, Frosty 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.440 town outside of Blaney. That was tough going. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.840 Yeah, right, okay, So you started the Dragons, yep, you're 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:41.920 picked up by the Dragons. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.880 That was when you were living in Port McQuary. How'd 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:45.360 they find you? 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.400 Yes, I was in Port McQuary, and I just what 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.720 about you, coops? Were you are desperate league? Or did 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.360 you have to do it or you will give or 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:54.560 take league? Did you want to do it? 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.040 Or I wanted to play league. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.160 I went to a Union school yep, so I was 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.440 forced to play union there as well. But I always 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.880 league was always my sport. It was always I'd play 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.640 Union on the Saturday, League on the Sunday, or sometimes 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.320 on the same day, rock up with my union stocks 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.880 socks still on. Dad was coaching our league side. But 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.120 I think league was always the passion. Union's just it 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:17.640 was a bit different for a league. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.360 The second year you didn't play union, remember you had 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.080 an injury, but also the very fact that I found 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.480 it unhealthy to a certain extent. So I'm not a 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.320 big fan of the sports high schools. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.680 Yes, but I agree with that. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520 Yeah, you know, but you don't want a kid you 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.840 don't keep going through school saying, oh, it doesn't matter 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.680 about schol I'm going to be a first grade footballer anyway. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.760 And when you're fourteen years of ages, very you think 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.120 that way. Yeah, we chose against that as well. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.320 Yeah, well definitely like not throwing, not lifting the lid 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.080 on anything. You know, that's too controversially, but those big 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.920 union schools, they probably are. They probably do promise a 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.120 lot of kids the world, Like at fourteen fifteen, they 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.600 get him in on scholarship, come in here, played. And 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.200 then as soon as I saw that, many blog, so 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.720 many kids that will promise like you're going to be 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.840 the next big thing. Two years later they they kind 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.719 of like, you know, and they and they don't. They 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.760 let him get away with not doing exams, someone else 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.160 still in their homework. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:12.600 All of this stuff. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.000 And then they get to seventeen and they they've already 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.760 hit their gross burd everyone goes past them and there's 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.440 a little bit of all right, well you know you're 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:22.480 no longer. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.080 That good, so we'll just piss you off a little bit. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.440 Well, I remember there was one kid at the school 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:28.480 who made he could really play. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:29.600 This kid he was a forward. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.639 So I bumped the Melbourne Storm and I said, I 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.400 found this this this kid, right, So the Storm made 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.520 him an offer and then someone got in his ear 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.440