1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: On Scylands Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panehy show. Coming 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: up tonight. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: The Albanezy government under renewed pressure to increase defense spending. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: Dan Wilde would be here to discuss the day's. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: Top headlines, including the ABC squandering more than a million 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: dollars in taxpayer money on unnecessary legal fees. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: The Great Douglas Murray. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: Joins me shortly with a message for self loathing lefties 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: in the West. M Horowitz will have the latest from 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: the US, and later in the hour Kinsey Schofield will 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: tell us why George Clooney was rubbing shoulders with King 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: Charles and left is losing it features this charmer stopped. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 4: Come on my page and say that people should be 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 4: in this contrivilibly. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Don't do it. This is ridiculous, it's inhuman. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: But first, the Australian government is under intense pressure to 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: increase defense spending after NATO leaders back Donald Trump's increase 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: spending demands. Despite many NATO leaders agree to spend five 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: percent of their respective GDPs on defense, the Albinezer government 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: is refusing requests to lift our defense spending to three 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: point five percent of GDP. Let's bring in Deputy executive 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: director at the Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wild. Dan 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: is Australian danger of becoming an outlier here, We're becoming 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: some sort of a recalcitrant ally that is not doing 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: our bit for defense. 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 5: Well that's right, rider, Yes we are in danger of 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 5: becoming an outlier. 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 6: We probably already are one. 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: And look, the point here is that, yes, we need 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: to increase our defense spending as a percentage of our GDP, 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 5: and yes we need to make sure that that is 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: being spent on more effective things. But we shouldn't just 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: be doing it because the United States or Donald Trump 35 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 5: has requested it of us. 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 6: We need to do it for its own sake. 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 5: We have been underspending and under investing in our defense 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 5: capabilities for a long time now, and so we need 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: to make sure that we're catching up. 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: We also need to make. 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: Sure that we are a reliable ally to the United 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: States and our other Western partners, which we have not been. 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 6: And I think a part. 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: Of this reason REATA is because there is a very 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 5: anti American sentiment that exists in sections of the Labor Party, 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 5: and there is certainly an anti Donald Trump sentiment that exists. 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: And look, Trump, whether you like him or not, he's 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 5: not going to be president in three and a half 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 5: years time. So you've got to get along with the 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: president that's there at the moment, and too many within 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 5: the Labor Party are not interested in doing that. 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: Well, the way things are going in the US, we're 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: likely to see a president JD. Van So they think 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: things are kind of changing in America, they'll be sadly mistaken. Now, 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: this was very interesting, I thought during Donald Trump's press 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: conference in the early hours of this morning at NATO, 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: where he noted that Spain was one of the countries 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: that refused to abide by his increased spending demands and 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: Donald Trump had a remedy for that. And I think 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: the Albaneza government should pay very careful attention to these comments. 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: Of course, you know a Spain. 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 7: Are you satisfied with today? 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 8: Oh? 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 9: I think Spain's are terrible what they've done, No, I do. 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 9: They're the only country that won't pay the full up 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 9: they want to stay at two percent. I think it's terrible. 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 9: And you know, they're doing very well. The economy is 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 9: very well, and that economy could be blown right out 69 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 9: of the water with something bad happening. Know, Spain is 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 9: the only country that are you from Spain, good congratulations. 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 9: You're the only country that is not paying. I don't 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 9: know what the problem is. It's I think it's too bad. 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 9: So we'll make it up. You know what we're going 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 9: to do. We're negotiating with Spain on a trade deal. 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 9: We're going to make them pay twice as much. And 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 9: I'm actually serious about there. 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: You go, well make it up. Is that what Australia 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: can look for or what do I wonder? And we 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: haven't yet negotiated a trade deal, a a deal on 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: tariffs with the US. And I do wonder whether our 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: reluctance to do anything about our defense spending is part 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: of the reason Donald Trump is refusing to meet for 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: the Anthony Now been easy. 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 5: I think that's likely. And you know Trump has used 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 5: and even said this. He said this repeatedly, that one 86 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 5: of the purposes of tariffs is to get revenue, and 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: the other purpose of tariffs is to use it as 88 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 5: leverage and as a bargaining chip for other matters. He's 89 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: been very explicit about that. So it shouldn't come as 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: a surprise that that's exactly what he's doing, or what 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 5: he said he's going to do in the case of Spain. 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 6: So yes, we need to be aware of that. 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 5: But like I said before, whether Trump was president, whether 94 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris or Joe Biden or anyone, we needed to 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 5: increase our defense spending no matter what. And like I say, 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 5: we need to spend it on more effective things like drones, 97 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: for example, And I don't understand why we don't have 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 5: that capability in our country. So, you know, whatever the 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 5: US president that says, he'll say, but we need to 100 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: do the right thing for our country, which means increasing 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 5: our defense spending. 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: Now let's hear from the Senator for Sea Patrol, as 103 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: some have called her, her thoughts on the US president. 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: Here is the Greens Sarah Hanson Young. 105 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 10: I think the world is a much more unstable and 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 10: insecure place with Donald Trump as US president. 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: He is dangerous. 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: And on one. 109 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 10: Hand, you just say, oh, he's just a medium megalomaniac, 110 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 10: it's just all about the attention. I think that's true, 111 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 10: But I also think he's very dangerous and I think. 112 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: His far right views, his. 113 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 10: Erraticness, together with his obsession with attention makes the world 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 10: a really unsafe place. 115 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Dan, what's your response to that. 116 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: Well, I think the problem here is there's just a 117 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 5: series of assertions without any substance. I mean, what are 118 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: the far right views that Donald Trump holds? Is removing 119 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: nuclear facilities from Iran? A far right view? Is securing 120 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 5: your borders. A far right view is having an alternative 121 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 5: economic system that brings manufacturing back to your country a 122 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 5: far right view. What exactly are the far right views 123 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: that Donald Trump is claim to hold and this idea 124 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 5: that he's erratic and so forth. I mean, maybe he is, 125 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: maybe he isn't, But I just think that it's a 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 5: strategy that he uses to try to get the outcomes 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 5: that he wants. 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: So I think it is unhelpful. 129 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: To have a senator to be making these claims on 130 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 5: like a very personal level. I mean, you're entitled to 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 5: have your views and to express them, but to be 132 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: sort of having a personal attack on the United States president, 133 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 5: I think doesn't help our country. And like I say, 134 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 5: those comments, which is more entitled to make, but they 135 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 5: don't have any substance, and they're sort of based upon 136 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 5: really the vibe of it rather than pointing to any 137 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 5: think concrete, Yes. 138 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: Just intellectually vacuous. And the Greens are the government's coalition partners. 139 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: They've got their balance of power in the Upper House. 140 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: They are going to be working together undoubtedly throughout this term. 141 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: So it's also reckless in many ways to be making 142 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: comments like that, and she went on to question the 143 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: alliance Australia has with the US. Now I want to 144 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: move on to the ABC. A Federal court judge has 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: found that journalist Antoinette Latoufe was unfairly sacked by the 146 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: ABC midway through her five day radio contract. Latoufas claimed 147 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: she was unlawfully dismissed by the ABC in December of 148 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three after she reshared an Instagram post about 149 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: the war in Gaza which accused Israel of using starvation 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: as a weapon of war. 151 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: Daniel, It's worth. 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: Noting here that the ABC sacked her, but it has 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: protected and stood by more high profile reporters. And I 154 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: think just as importantly, they spent one point one million 155 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: dollars of our money defending this case when they could 156 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 3: have settled it for eighty five thousand dollars. 157 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Where is the accountability here? 158 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: Well, exactly. 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: I mean to me, this is a case of can't 160 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: they both lose? And I think it's you know, the 161 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: ABC is you know, you live by the sword and 162 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: you die by the sword. You know, the ABC has 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: a history of trying to silence those that don't share 164 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 5: its worldview. It's clearly a double standard, as you've rightly 165 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: pointed out that they've stood by other high profile hosts 166 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: or so called journalists and reporters, but haven't done so 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 5: in this case. And as you also say, well, it's 168 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: not their money, it's it's our money. It's the tax 169 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 5: pays money that has gone into this case. So you know, 170 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 5: the ABC likes to hold itself up as being this 171 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: sort of beacon of impartiality, of being above the fray, 172 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: of you know, being an important sort of beacon of 173 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: truth in our society. But you know, when it comes 174 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: down to it, they are hypocritical and there is clearly 175 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 5: a double standard that applies here. But you know, like 176 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 5: I say, it's lived by the sword, die by the sword. 177 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Now staying in Victoria, Melbourne street sweeper sacked by Daribin 178 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: City Council after objecting to acknowledgment of country announcements well 179 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: here's one his unfair dismissal case. Shawn Turner told the 180 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: meeting that if you need to be thanking anyone, it's 181 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: the people who have worn the uniform and fought for 182 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 3: our country to keep us free. 183 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Daniel. 184 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: It's just absolutely appalling that he had to take legal 185 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: action to protect his rights. I think this is just 186 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: shameful behavior from Darbin Council. 187 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: Oh, it was that absolute disgrace. And you know, this 188 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 5: street sweeper is an absolute hero. I mean he is. 189 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 5: What he has said is what the vast majority of 190 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: mainstream Australians believe. 191 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 6: I mean, this guy should. 192 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: Be the leader of the liberal factly, you know, he's 193 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: got a finger on the pulse on these issues. So 194 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 5: you know, the idea that someone should be sacked for 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: saying this show is not only how out of touch 196 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: that particular council is, but you know it's this broader 197 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 5: thing of the activist left will shout you down, they'll 198 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: kick you out of your job, they'll take your money, 199 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 5: they'll ruin your reputation if you don't sign up to 200 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: their divisive social activism. So look, I hope that this 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 5: is yet another example of how mainstream Australians have just 202 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 5: had an absolute gutful of the overuse of welcome the 203 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: country and acknowledgment of country ceremonies. And to be honest, 204 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 5: I just think it's time to put the practice to 205 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: bed and do something that can unify us as a 206 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 5: society rather than doing what's you know, ultimately dividing us. 207 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: Well. 208 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: I do recall Professor Marshall Langton saying that if the 209 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: voice was defeated, we would have no more of these 210 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: welcome to countries. 211 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: But here we are. 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: And on Marshall Langton, she has proclaimed her new art 213 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: exhibition in Melbourne as anti colonial. Dan, will you be 214 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: rushing to see this exhibition? It's called sixty five thousand 215 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: Years A Short History of Australian Art. 216 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 5: No, I think my invite got lost in the mail 217 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: or something like that to go there. Look, I think 218 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: the problem the problem reader is like Aboriginal art. There's 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 5: nothing wrong at all with Aboriginal art and it's got 220 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 5: a lot to contribute and I think a lot of 221 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 5: people have an interest in it. 222 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 6: The issue here is when you turn. 223 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: It explicitly into political activism, which is what Marshall Langton 224 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 5: is doing. But most people just get immediately turned off 225 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: by it. I mean, if you're a regular person and 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: then you see this, this is an anti colonial exhibition, 227 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 5: well you're not going to rock up to it. What 228 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 5: would you rock up to? Be brat and basically called 229 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 5: a racist? Now, I think it's a shame because art 230 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: should unite us. It should be something that can speak 231 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: to enduring values and a shared experience of the human condition. 232 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: And certainly our aboriginal art can do that, just as 233 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: all art can when it's done in in its most 234 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: excellent form. So again it's another example of how really 235 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: a pathetic you know, a pathetic social activist is just 236 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: trying to drive another wedge into our society. 237 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: Dan wil thank you for your time tonight, joining me 238 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: now is the best selling author of groundbreaking books, including 239 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: The War on the West, The Strange Death of Europe, 240 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: and his latest on democracies and death cults. 241 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, welcome back. 242 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: One of your best sellers is called The Strange Death 243 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: of Europe, and we about to see the Strange. 244 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: Death of New York. 245 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: With a radical Socialists or On Mandani winning the city's 246 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: democratic mayoral primary, it. 247 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Is quite extraordinary. Mandani was thought of such a rank 248 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: outlier and such a fringe figure such as sort of 249 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: student politician, as well as being a very very radical 250 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: figure that people didn't really seem to think you could 251 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: possibly get this far. Yet here he is winning the primary. 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: This is somebody who has repeatedly shown himself to be 253 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: a sort of sub AOC style radical leftist. He has 254 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: terrible track record, in fact, he doesn't have much of 255 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: a track work record and actually performing at anything, but 256 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: he's got a horrible track record of statements. That was 257 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: recently asked his views about one of the slogans about 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: eradicating the Jewish state and just seemed not really to 259 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: have anything much to say in condemning that. And New 260 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Yorkers are understandably getting worried. New York has taken a 261 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: heck of a battering in recent years as radical left policies, 262 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: including from the Biden eras border policies led to migrant 263 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: waves into New York, that the COVID policies led to 264 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: an incredible exodus from the city of wealthy people and others. 265 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's a question can New York really cope 266 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: with a term under such a radical figure, or will 267 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: New York just stop being New York effectively. I mean, 268 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: as we've said many times, retail. You know, there's no 269 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: law in nature that means that a country or a 270 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: city just remains at the peak forever if it keeps 271 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: on being battered by politicians who hated. 272 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: And we've seen the decline in many Western cities are 273 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: great cities, and it's sad to see, particularly a place 274 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: like New York. But ma'am, Darnie does have plenty of 275 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: high profile supporters, from supermodels to popular streamers. 276 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Let's hear from just a couple of them. 277 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 11: Text to your friends and family, because we need everybody 278 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 11: to come out and make sure you're drinking water. 279 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: If this's a very. 280 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 7: Hunted this election is going to be decided by young voters. 281 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 7: The average New Yorker is thirty eight years old. 282 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: The last mayoral race was decided by seven thousand voters. 283 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 7: That means that your vote really matters. 284 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 11: I supported him because he's the only non Zionist candidate 285 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 11: on that stage. 286 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 12: I thought he needed to be bond and sold. But 287 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 12: people are energetic, people aren't tired of Zionism, and I'm excited. 288 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: To see what he's got. 289 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 6: I'm not a socialist myself. 290 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 12: I don't want everyone to be a communist getting free stuff, 291 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 12: but I think he has some cool ideas. 292 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: There you go. 293 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: He doesn't like the fact that he's a communist who 294 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: wants governments to run supermarkets, but he hates Zionism. So 295 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: he got Sneako's vote. 296 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: And he had certainly got Emily's vote. 297 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, isn't it extraordinary He's running to be 298 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: mayor of New York and the things he's really best 299 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: known for is his anti Israel activism. But of course 300 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: that attracts a certain type of person, as we just saw. 301 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Imagine though, I mean, this is an election to do 302 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: with a mayor who can oversee quite a lot of 303 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: stuff to do with the running of the city. But 304 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: the mayor of New York doesn't have a foreign policy. 305 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: So isn't it revealing when people like that that that 306 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: guy there, sneak O. Isn't it? Yeah? That he he says, 307 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: I like because he's he's not a Zionist. Well that 308 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: that just means that that he gets the support of 309 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: people who think, great, this guy doesn't like Jews. I 310 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: don't like Jews. Let's vote for him, because what else 311 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: does it mean, what, what's what's not being a Zionist 312 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: got to do with being mayor of New York. Only 313 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: that Mandani has repeatedly demonstrated his own prejudices. And by 314 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: the way, I will predict reata with considerable certainty, and 315 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: we can lay a bed on this that any criticism 316 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: of Mandani in the coming days and weeks will be 317 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: batted back by him and his support as being in 318 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: some way bigoted, as if criticizing a bigot is in 319 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: some way itself the problem. They will say, he's a Muslim, 320 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: he's a recent immigrant. How dare you say anything against him? 321 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: And that will, I guarantee be the playbook it will 322 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: run on. 323 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. I'm not having that bet because you 324 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: would win it. 325 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: Now I want to take you to London, where pro 326 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: Palestinian supporters continue to clash with the police. 327 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: Let's have a look. Now. 328 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: These were members or supporters of the Palestine Action Group 329 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: at Trafalgar Square. Now this group is expected to be 330 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: banned Douglas by the government, prescribed as a terrorist organization 331 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: after its members allegedly vandalized two planes at an RAF base. 332 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: How do you see the way Western governments have handled 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: this uprising since October seven, particularly the British, because they've 334 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: seem to have been particularly weak. 335 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're all weak reta and it's because 336 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: they don't know what to do. They've imported large populations 337 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: of people who have brought their own sectarian politics to 338 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: countries like Britain. Whether it's to do with Kashmir, Pakistani 339 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: populations who've come to the UK or bang on about Kashmir, 340 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: or the same people and others who will bang on 341 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: about Middle Eastern politics, they've just brought their rife ethnic 342 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: and religious hatreds with them, and the British state, like 343 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: so many other countries, doesn't know what to do now 344 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: other than do a bit of kumbaya. Why don't we 345 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: all love the multi culty society bit. But actually, these 346 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: people we're seeing there, I mean they call themselves Palestine 347 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Action and they attack RAF bases. They're just a combination 348 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: of two groups of people radical mostly and absolutely hollowed 349 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: out Western far leftists who believe that their life will 350 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: have some kind of meaning if they pretend that the palestinees, 351 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: if that's a thing, a name, a place, a state, 352 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: should be foremost in all of their concerns, and you know, 353 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting test for a country like Britain. 354 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Can the police and others actually rein in radical groups 355 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: who bring our cities to a halt because of imported 356 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: bigotries and hatreds or will they just continue to allow 357 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: them to run riot. So far they've just allowed them 358 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: to run riot. We'll see, But if Arma were to 359 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: ban them, that would seem to me to be a 360 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: very good thing. You know, no other groups are allowed 361 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: to shut down cities repeatedly, be hooligans, deface things, invade 362 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: military bases and much more. I think there should be 363 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: a price for that, and I'm very happy if Palestine 364 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: action goes same way as the people they admire so 365 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: much and get prescribed like Hamas and other terrorist groups. 366 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: Now, Douglas, I've always made the argument that if you 367 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 3: don't like the West and its values, then don't emigrate there. 368 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: If you want to see Shariah law, then there are 369 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: plenty of Muslim majority countries you could live in. 370 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: But I want to play the. 371 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: Response to that argument from a character called Shakil Afsa, 372 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: who did very well. I've got to say the last 373 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: general election in the UK, in the Hall Green constituency 374 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: in Birmingham. He got the second largest vote running as 375 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: an independent. 376 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen, City. 377 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 13: Of Birmingham will not tolerate the disrespect of our profit. 378 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 13: Peace be upon him and there will be outcomes from 379 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 13: your actions. You will have repercussions for your actions. We 380 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 13: have been trained from Bert that we must befriend the 381 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 13: honor of our profit and we will let our life 382 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 13: on the line. 383 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 12: Okay, you know the other argument is okay, so if 384 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 12: you don't like it here, I go to your own confu. 385 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 11: But why would we do that when our fathers were 386 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 11: instrumental in rebuilding this country after World War Two? It 387 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 11: was our grandfathers who worked in the factory twenty twenty hours, 388 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 11: it was our grandfathers who came here, and it was 389 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 11: our grandfathers who brought you the. 390 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 12: Lovely Coreer, which is a national dish. 391 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 11: So how can you tell us to go. We're not 392 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 11: going nowhere. 393 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: We are here to stay. 394 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 11: Like I said, we're not here to take part. We're 395 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 11: here to take all that. 396 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: Douglas, what's your response to that? 397 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: The argument is their forefathers helped rebuild the UK and 398 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: they're entitled to take over. 399 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, he can scram. As far as I'm concerned, my 400 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: forefathers did a lot more, for a lot longer than his. 401 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: And if he wants to talk about the importance of 402 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Pakistani labor in the post war period, very happy that 403 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: other British people go head to head and point out 404 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: what our forebears did for a lot longer and a 405 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: lot better to actually build Britain. Britain isn't built on 406 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: a couple of generations of immigration. It's built on centuries, 407 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: in fact, millennia of men women who did extraordinary things. 408 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: And to watch that being trampled on by this person, 409 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I just will play it around any other way. If 410 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: a white British person were to go to Pakistan and 411 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: say I'm very sorry, but actually my forbears built this country, 412 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: not you, and I'll do whatever I want and we'll 413 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: have a kind of white takeover of Pakistan or anything 414 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: like that, it would be absolutely condemned by everyone. It 415 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be tolerated at all. I just fed up of 416 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: hearing demagogues like that. I'm sorry, the country doesn't belong 417 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: to him and people like him, and I hope he 418 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: doesn't push the British people as much as he's trying 419 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: to because he might not like what he gets back. 420 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: Well, what I say, Douglas, I'm as worried about the 421 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 3: self loathing generations we are breeding in the West as 422 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: much as those coming from far away lands who want 423 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: to change the West. Watch what these young men say 424 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: when asked whether they would fight for their country. 425 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 14: Let me tell you this, I would fight against the UK, 426 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 14: I would probably say, no, you. 427 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 11: Don't think I would. 428 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Why would you fight against the UK? 429 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 10: Because I would like the world to be liberated from 430 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 10: Western imperialism. 431 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 7: I would fight against this country in. 432 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: The war. 433 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: Liberated from Western imperialism. 434 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: Douglas, how do we get here? 435 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: First of all, that soyboy you just saw, I'm not 436 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: sure he'd be much used in any arm I can't 437 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: see him storming any beaches or climbing any ramparts. So 438 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: it's purely hypothetical for him. It's just a statement of 439 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: the Basically, he's saying that because he's been taught to 440 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: say it, and he doesn't have a mind to his own. 441 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: He's just repeating a sort of man trey he's been 442 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: taught in some secondary university or college or something like 443 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: that about colonialism and everything else in Western imperiod. It's 444 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: all just such dated stuff by now. And of course, 445 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, those of us who watch people like that 446 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: with the suitable amount of contempt that they invite always 447 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: have to resist the temptation. Don't we to just wish 448 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: that perhaps they would find themselves in a position where 449 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: they meet the people who they think are their great 450 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: allies and are shown a different type of custom and 451 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: a different type of welcome. If that guy ever got 452 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: his way, which he's not going to but actually sort 453 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: of lived in some kind of post Western world, well 454 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: good luck to him, because he'd find out awfully fast. 455 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: The Chinese Communist Party don't particularly care for people like him. 456 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: The sharier law lovers definitely don't like him. You know, 457 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: you just sort of in a way you hope that 458 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: they'll get a little taster of it someday, and it'll 459 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: be the firm smack of reality, maybe the first smack 460 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: they've got, but certainly not the first one they've deserved. 461 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: It reminds me of those pro Palestinian supporters who thought 462 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: they were going to march into Palestine through Egypt and 463 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: the locals gave them the sort of. 464 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: Reception they weren't expecting. 465 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: They were I think expecting the red carpet treatment, and no, 466 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: they got a very North African welcome and they were shocked. 467 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: They couldn't believe the locals would behave like that. Before 468 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: you go. It's been a big week for the Trump administration. 469 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: The bombing of Iran's nuclear sites is fresh calls for 470 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's impeachment from the Democrats, from the likes of 471 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: AOC and we've also just had Donald Trump overnight at 472 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: the Hague securing increased defense spending from NATO partners. Do 473 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: you expect to see the peace steal between Israel and 474 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: Iran enduring for any sort of time. 475 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: We'll see. The Iranian Revolutionary government is not in a 476 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: very strong position at the moment. The Iatola Kameni is 477 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: about the last person left at the head of it. 478 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: The end of the military and the terrorists infrastructure that 479 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: he and his predecessor built up for four and a 480 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: half decades. Now, he's not in a strong position the era. 481 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: The skies above Iran are completely dominated by the Israeli 482 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Air Force and indeed by the American Air Force. In 483 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the last ten days or so, they don't have control 484 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: of their own skies. The Uranian Revolutionary government, the Israeli 485 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: and American Air Force can do whatever they want, and 486 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: the Mullers basically can't do anything much in response. If 487 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: the Iranian Revolutionary government were to break this cease fire, 488 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: Israel be completely within its rights to retaliate immediately. I 489 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: think there is a slightly difficult corner for the Israelis, 490 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: which is whether or not they actually feel that they 491 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: finished the job, not just on the nuclear sites, but 492 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: on the ballistic missiles and others that the Iranian Revolutionary 493 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: government has been firing at the people of Israel for 494 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and has done so many 495 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: times in the past. If the Israelis felt the job 496 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: isn't done, they will need some kind of reassurance that 497 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: it'll be that basically, that the rocket fire will stop 498 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: and much more. It's a difficult corner that and I 499 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: can understand, you know, the tensions on all sides. But 500 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, President Trump did an extraordinary and historic thing, 501 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: as indeed did Prime Minister Netta Yahoo in the last 502 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks since we spoke. The whole world has 503 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: said for years that Iran cannot get a nuclear bomb, 504 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: and most of the world sat by or negotiated away. 505 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: As the Mollez got closer and closer to getting the 506 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: world's most dangerous weaponry. The Israelis acted and then the 507 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Americans backed them up and finished most of that job, 508 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: if not all of it. And as I've said for 509 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: many years, evidably there's criticism, but they have done something which, 510 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: if it's shown to have been complete, if it has 511 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: actually just freud the nuclear terrorist infrastructure of the Maulers, 512 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: is absolutely historic. That the idiots claiming that Trump should 513 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: be impeached should just come out and say that they 514 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: have no problem with the idea of a nuclear Iran 515 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: and a nuclearized Middle East. And if they think that, 516 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: they're even bigger fools than you and I took them for. 517 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight. 518 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure. 519 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: As always, coming. 520 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: Up Lefties Losing It plus a surprisingly tender moment between 521 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and a Ukrainian journalist at the NATO summit. 522 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: Army Horowitz is up next. Welcome back. It's time for 523 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: lefties losing it And here are a couple of American 524 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: traitors who want the Islamist Iranian regime to wipe out 525 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: these to blow up more than one hundred million Americans 526 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: in red states like Texas and Florida. 527 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 8: Dear Iron, this is my official application of states that 528 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 8: you should. 529 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 14: Wipe out because we did not vote. 530 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: For that orange cheetoh man over here in Los Angeles, Alabama. 531 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 8: Out here, Florida out of here, Arkansas boom, Oklahoma, get 532 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 8: them gla, Ohio, Kansas gone, Kentucky No, Arkansas ran the 533 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 8: Tennessee Fire. 534 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: Texas double double. 535 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: You know, those low life losers mentioned my home state 536 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: of arkansat twice. 537 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: That's a declaration of war where I come from. 538 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 3: And let's see another unhinged lefty who somehow diluted herself 539 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: into thinking she's morally superior because she doesn't believe in 540 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: law and order, she doesn't believe in borders. She's happy 541 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 3: to see the return of the human trafficking tried at 542 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: the us is southern border because apparently it's what Jesus wanted. 543 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: Don't come on my page and say that people should 544 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: be in this country legally. Don't do it. 545 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous, it's inhumane. 546 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 15: You are a human being, and don't. 547 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: You dare use Jesus's name or God's. 548 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 5: Name in this and say that this is what he 549 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 5: would want and pretend to be a Christian because you're not. 550 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: This is pure evil. You are scum of the earth. 551 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: These are people, these. 552 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 12: Are mothers, these are fathers, these are human beings, and 553 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 12: all you care about is where they are geographically. 554 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: Shame on you do better, be better now. 555 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: This is one way to deal with a lefty losing 556 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: it And. 557 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 14: Tell me why I'm gonna get sixer? 558 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 15: No I'm not, I no, no, Why. 559 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: Did she get up? 560 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: You knew she was gonna get zapped again as as 561 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: soon as she got up. 562 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: He doesn't get much sillier than this. 563 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: This is Sex and the City star Cynthia Nixon campaigning 564 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: for a radical socialist? Is there a more dim witted 565 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: profession than acting this? 566 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: Just intellectually barren in this election. 567 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 7: Day, I'm on my way to vote. 568 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: I don't felt that I have ever been more excited 569 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: to vote for anyone than I am to vote for 570 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: Zoran Mondani. 571 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: That was Cynthia before the vote, and afterwards she was celebrating, 572 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: celebrating like a Turkey celebrates Christmas. She posted Zora and Mamdani, 573 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: a Muslim democratic socialist has won the. 574 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: NYC primary for mayor. 575 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: Exclamation mark joining me now is a filmmaker and journalist's army, 576 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: Horowitz army. What do you make of Cynthia Nixon's advocacy here? 577 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: She wasn't alone, Zora and Mamdani has plenty of influential 578 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: famous backers. 579 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: What are you dancing to at the moment. 580 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 12: Si, I was listening to the rockin' out to mister 581 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 12: cartermom aka Zoran Mandavi. Yes, the great wrapper of yesteryear. 582 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 12: So I couldn't help myself. Yes, Mandani is not only 583 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 12: a weight loss drug, but it's also the incoming mayor, 584 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 12: most probably of New York City. Yes, he has quite 585 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 12: a few, like you're trying to get to before I 586 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 12: disturb you. Quite a few celebrity backers, right, He's got 587 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 12: Emily Radajowski, the woman made herself famous while she was 588 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 12: naked in a video. Lord who made Who's your neck 589 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 12: of the woods? She makes great news? 590 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: Yes, New Zealand person. 591 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 12: Absolutely, and the afore mentioned Cynthia Nixon a whole Cynthia 592 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 12: Nixon just quick quick aside that when I had my daughter, 593 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 12: she was oh no, no, four or five years old. We 594 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 12: were at the park one day and she was holding 595 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 12: a string cheese and looking at it about to have 596 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 12: her lunch. That was her food. Cynthia Nixon's son ran 597 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 12: up to her, grab the cheese stick, laughed and ran 598 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 12: away and ate it. As Cynthia Nixon said, was laughing 599 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 12: and said, Oh, don't worry, I'll get you next time. No, Cynthia, 600 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 12: I got you this time. Look, Cynthia Nixon is a 601 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 12: horrible person that that son who stole my daughter's cheese stick. 602 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 12: This is something who she calls an observant jew that's 603 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 12: kind of like I'm anna observant Zoastrian. This is somebody 604 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 12: who spent time in a hunger strike against the genocide 605 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 12: and Israel. Notably the hunger strike lasted five days, but 606 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 12: heal it can make two days. Also a member of 607 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 12: JVP Jewish Boys for Peace, which who I've interviewed, complete 608 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 12: and total supporters of Hamas. So yeah, that's kind of 609 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 12: Cynthia and Nixon. But this tracks with Mandavi. Mandavi is 610 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 12: a he's a support. He has said his own words, 611 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 12: he wants to globalize the empty FATA. Well, you know, 612 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 12: I does take it. One second. He fought up with 613 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 12: a series of uprising against Israel, which was a series 614 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 12: of terrorist attacks which killed hundreds and hundreds of these 615 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 12: reelius civilians. He wants to globalize this he founded, he's 616 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 12: one of the founding member of one of the chapters 617 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 12: of s JP Students for Justice of Palestine, who are 618 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 12: open HAMA supporters against people that I have I have interviewed. Look, 619 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 12: he has openly called for the genocide of Israel, right, 620 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 12: he doesn't shy away from that at all. And you know, 621 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 12: even more disgusting than that is he sent out a 622 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 12: series of robo calls and I was sitting at a 623 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 12: baseball game my cousin. He got one of these robo calls, 624 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 12: and my cousin didn't know. I thought he was interacting 625 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 12: with somebod who worked for the actually worked for the 626 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 12: for the campaign. He said, look, I'm worried. I'm a Jew. 627 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 12: I can't vote for mine, Donnie. And then, in a sick, 628 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 12: twisted way, this person said this robo call said I'm 629 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 12: an Orthodox Jew and I had a friend who died 630 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 12: in October seventh. They actually weaponized and took this the 631 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 12: cruel murder of civilians for a weird, horrible political win. 632 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 12: I mean, this is Cynthia Nixon, this is Mindani. 633 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 2: Well, Mamdani did particularly well. 634 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: It has to be said with young voters, affluent voters, 635 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: low income voters didn't really back him, but college educated, 636 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 3: affluent voters did back him. 637 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: That's got to be a concern. 638 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 3: But I'm interested to get your take on what President 639 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has had to say about this. After his 640 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: big win in New York's Democratic meryal primary, Trump wrote, 641 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: Democrats have crossed the line by elevating a one hundred 642 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 3: percent communist lunatic. He also added, We've had radical lefties before, 643 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: but this is getting a little ridiculous. But army, this 644 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: is the modern left in America. The Democrats loudest voices 645 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: are Iosa and Bernie and Jasmine Crockers and now this 646 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: guy who could be leading in yc. 647 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 12: Oh God, who would imagine I'd be pining for the 648 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 12: days of Bill de Blasio. Yeah, Look, I remember we Look, 649 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 12: we would have a series of discussions you and I 650 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 12: after the election. Right, in what direction are the Democrats. 651 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: Going to go? 652 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 12: Well, it seemed like they picked their lane, right, they 653 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 12: really did. 654 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: Look. 655 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 12: Zorman Jave is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. 656 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 12: Now the DSA, this is not some like watered down 657 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 12: version of like social democrats in Europe. But this is 658 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 12: not the Finnish politicians on bikes. These are hardcore Marxist. 659 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 12: Let me read you a list of the affiliations of 660 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 12: the DSA support if you read this, the DSA, this 661 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 12: is from their website, is a multi tendency coalition. Don't 662 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 12: know what that is of Marxist Leninists, trotsky Is, eco socialist, 663 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 12: orthodox Marxism as opposed to reform Marxism, evolutionary socialism, socialist feminism, 664 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 12: and eco socialisms, or simply crazy people. Now they can 665 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 12: add that list global g hottis because that's exactly what 666 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 12: they have. Look, he's calling for state run groceries, right, 667 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 12: state run grocery. Look, this is why it at the 668 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 12: people in breadlines from the Soviet Union time or now 669 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 12: currently in Venezuela, what they think of state run groceries. Okay, 670 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 12: by the way, state run groceries. He wants no profit margin. 671 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 12: They want they run a one to two percent profit margin. 672 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 12: That's the graphic margin he wants to get rid of 673 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 12: and have absolutely no food whatsoever. He's called for having 674 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 12: no fee for transportation, Getting the subway, getting the bus, 675 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 12: no problem at all. I remember just recently on that 676 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 12: same yagging game I was talking about I was a 677 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 12: subway that stopped for about fifteen minutes, and this woman 678 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 12: said to me, you know, that's why I don't pay 679 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 12: for the subway. I skipped. I don't pay. I hoped 680 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 12: the thing that stops you makes you pay, because this 681 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 12: is what we get to go. 682 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: No. 683 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 12: No, the reason why we're stopping for fifteen minutes because 684 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 12: you don't pay for the subway. He wants to make 685 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 12: that across New York City. This guy is a legitimate 686 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 12: crazy person, and now New York is poised to elect 687 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 12: him the mayor of the city. 688 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: To NATO now, ARMI and President Donald Trump shared a 689 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: touching moment with a Ukrainian woman, a journalist who asked 690 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: him a question during the NATO press conference. 691 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: Let's have a look meet with the kids. I mean 692 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: also actually, because he wanted to meet. 693 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 9: Is your husband a soldier? 694 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: Now he's he's there now. 695 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well that's rough stuff, right, that's tough, and you're 696 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 9: living here and you're a reporter. 697 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: I am good. 698 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 9: So let me just tell you. They do want to 699 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 9: have the anti missile missiles. Okay, as they call them 700 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 9: the patriots, and we're going to see if we can 701 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 9: make some available. 702 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: Amy that's the side of the president. We don't always. 703 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 12: Say no, that's true. Look, he really does feel for 704 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 12: the people of Ukraine. I mean again, you know, it's 705 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 12: so funny. It makes me think back to this whole 706 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 12: Russia Gate thing, right that. Remember the Democrats planted their 707 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 12: flag on that they were gonna die on the hill, 708 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 12: that he was a Russian mole, he was a cat's 709 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 12: paw for Putin. Yeah, I noticed that Russia invaded Ukraine twice, 710 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 12: once under Obama and once under Biden, didn't evade it 711 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 12: under Trump. Trump has no love for Trump has no 712 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 12: love for Russia. He does want this to end, though, 713 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 12: because there is a massive amount of killings. Both sides 714 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 12: are dying right, clearly, one side in the wrong and 715 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 12: one side of the right not trying to quit the two. 716 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 12: There's no question that young people are dying in Russia, 717 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 12: but in particularly in Ukraine, and right there you saw 718 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 12: the affection he had for Ukrainians and the way he 719 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 12: felt for the people who are fighting for their freedom 720 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 12: and fighting against Russian tyranny. 721 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: And before you go. 722 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 3: He was also referred to as daddy during this NATO 723 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 3: PRAHS conference. 724 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 14: Markrat to the NATO chief, who is your friend? He 725 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 14: called you daddy earlier. Do you regard your NATO allies 726 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 14: as kind of children? 727 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 9: Well? 728 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: Trump wasn't playing the role of daddy earlier in the wig, 729 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: It's got to be said, and he wasn't very happy. 730 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: He was an angry daddy. 731 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 12: Yeah, just wait till daddy gets home. Man, Oh god, 732 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 12: I remember those words, and we're telling NATA those words. Also. Look, 733 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 12: he really has transformed NATO. Do you remember remember the 734 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 12: days and he said I'm gonna leave NATO and everywhere like, 735 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 12: oh my god, he's crazy. He wants to leave NATO. Yeah. Look, 736 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 12: six out of thirty one countries prior to Trumpere did 737 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 12: not hit the two percent threshold they legally were supposed 738 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 12: to hit. And since he became president the first time, 739 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 12: not even now the first time, because of that threat, 740 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 12: the vast majority of NATO countries are at that spending threshold. Finally, 741 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 12: we're not paying for NATO's defense totally. So yeah, he 742 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 12: kind of is there daddy. And by the way, he's 743 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 12: not disliked by the heads of NATO. Mark Rutt, the 744 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 12: current head of NATO, is the one who called him daddy, 745 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 12: and Stoenberg before him praised him over and over again 746 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 12: that he was able to get these intransigent European countries 747 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 12: to finally pay up. So yeah, Daddy made it work. 748 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: Amy Harwitz, thank you so much for your time. Tonight, Salty, 749 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 3: come the latest on Jeff Bazils's lavish wedding and the 750 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 3: billion dollar question about. 751 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: That train up. 752 00:41:46,600 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: Kinsey Skyfield is up next, Welcome back. Joining me now 753 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 3: is to Die for podcast hosts Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, There's 754 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 3: been a lot of talk in the media about Jeff 755 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 3: Bezos's lavish wedding in Venice. It's this Saturday, tell me 756 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 3: the latest, and let's be honest, we all want to know. 757 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: Is there a prenup? 758 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: The last divorce costume billions, tens of billions. 759 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 4: I am all over this for you, but I hate 760 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 4: to disappoint you. There's still no word officially on whether 761 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos and Lauren Chenchez signed a pre nup. And 762 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 4: that's raising eyebrows because, like you said, Bezos didn't have 763 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 4: one with ex wife McKenzie Scott and they're twenty nineteen. 764 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 7: Divorce ended with Scott. 765 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 4: Walking away with roughly thirty five billion dollars, instantly making 766 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 4: her one of the richest women in the world, with 767 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 4: Bezos now worth over two hundred billion. Legal experts say 768 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: a prenup this time around would be a critical move. 769 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: But by the way, can I find anybody willing to 770 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 4: marry me for thirty five million dollars? 771 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 7: I'm here already. 772 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: Yes, you're settling for the thirty five million, not billion. 773 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: Come on, can see we can get you the beat. 774 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: We can get you with a beat. Thank you. I'm 775 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 2: high now. 776 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 3: Orlando Bloom is expected to be at this wedding, and 777 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 3: he may be making his debut as a single man. 778 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: What's happened with Katie Perry? Because only what a few 779 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 3: weeks ago she was in space with the bride Lauren Sanchez? 780 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 2: Is she not going to be at the wedding by 781 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 2: Orlando site? 782 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I should ask you what's in the water 783 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 4: in Australia, because apparently this all. 784 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 7: Blew up in Australia. 785 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 4: According to TMZ, Orlando Bloom is going to be making 786 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 4: his debut as a newly single man at the wedding. 787 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 4: Of Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez source to say he's 788 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: expected to bring the energy and hit the dance floor hard. 789 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 4: There's even Taki and Leonardo DiCaprio could slip away for 790 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 4: a little bar hoping on insider jokes. Ninety percent of 791 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 4: the guest list is kind of boring, but that other 792 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 4: ten percent, including Orlando and Jeff Bezos himself, is where 793 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 4: the real fun is. 794 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 7: It's going to be a great party. 795 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 4: Now the split rumors they just want start, they're intensifying, 796 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 4: and notably, she will not be attending the wedding. 797 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 3: Well, the last thing you want to hear is that 798 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 3: your strange husband is hanging out with Leonardo DiCaprio somewhere 799 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: in Italy. That is just bad news all around. Now 800 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 3: let's move on to the UK and there are reports 801 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 3: that Prince Andrew will not be returning as a working 802 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 3: member of the royal family under Prince William once he 803 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 3: becomes king. The Prince and Princess of Wales reportedly see 804 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 3: the disgraced Duke of York as a threat to the firm, 805 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: and the future King does not want to explore any 806 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 3: sort of scenario where he's going to be returning as 807 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: a working royal. 808 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 4: Honestly, no one in the loan of succession would welcome 809 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 4: Prince Andrew into the fold. His sexual assault accuser recently 810 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 4: committed suicide, and while he insists he's an innocent man, 811 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 4: he was clearly close to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, 812 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 4: and in the court of public opinion. 813 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 7: It's guilt by association. 814 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that Prince William isn't villainized over these 815 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 4: reports because to me it feels like common sense. 816 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: And sticking with the Royals. 817 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 3: George Clooney and his wife Amal have rubbed shoulders with 818 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 3: King Charles this way tell us what was behind that? 819 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 3: While was George clan George Clooney at Buckingham Palace. 820 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I think the cloonies probably prefer 821 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 4: crowns over complaints. George and Amal showed up hand in 822 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 4: hand to Buckingham Palace looking right at home. 823 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 7: I guess after one Royal wedding and. 824 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 4: A few Netflix specials, they've officially rsv p'd no to 825 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 4: Juan Acido and yes to team working Royals. 826 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: You can't blame them. 827 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 4: The King's trust has way back press and fewer Spotify casualties. 828 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 4: But they were therefore the King's Trust Awards, and they 829 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: looked relaxed. They were in good spirits as they spoke 830 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 4: to King Charles before he greeted the other guests. And 831 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 4: they are apparently longtime supporters of the King's Trust formerly 832 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 4: the Princess Trust. And in twenty nineteen, Amole actually partnered 833 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 4: with the organization to launch Amal Cloney's Women's Empowerment Awards. 834 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 4: So this actually surprises me so much. It's giving you 835 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 4: a sense of how Hollywood has really turned their back 836 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 4: on the Sussexes. 837 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if you've got the choice between the Sussexes 838 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 3: and the real royal family, you're always going to pick 839 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 3: the rules at you. 840 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: We're not surprised. 841 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Sean Diddy Combs. His 842 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 3: legal team failed to call a single witness to the 843 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 3: stand in his defense. 844 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 15: Why is that? 845 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 3: Closing arguments are scheduled to begin Thursday, and I'm hearing 846 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 3: more and more conjecture that the defense is very confident 847 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: that he's going to get off on the most serious charges. 848 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 4: Look, did he may not be the most sympathetic figure, 849 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 4: and no jury wants to let somebody shady off the hook, 850 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 4: but being unlikable isn't the same as being guilty of 851 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 4: racketeering and sex trafficking. The government has thrown a lot 852 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 4: at him, but when you look closely, it's fair to 853 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 4: question whether all of it will actually stick. When it 854 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 4: comes to the racketeering charge specifically, prosecutors appear to be 855 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 4: on shaky ground. Some might argue that they overcharged him. 856 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I could say now, I do 857 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 4: feel like they overcharged him because they dropped several of 858 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: the counts today because they wanted to simplify the jury's 859 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 4: you know, the jury's instructions, and now they're trying it 860 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 4: did look like for a while that they were trying 861 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 4: to make the facts fit the narrative versus the other 862 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 4: way around. 863 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 7: So I don't know. I do wonder. I'm at a loss. 864 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 7: I don't know what's going to happen when it. 865 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 4: Finds comes down to the jury taking this case and 866 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 4: trying to determine what happens behind closed doors. But I 867 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 4: do think when it comes to closing arguments, we're going 868 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 4: to hear the defense double down on their original approach. 869 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 7: Admit Diddy's not a saint, but. 870 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 4: Remind the jury that being morally questionable isn't the same 871 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 4: as being criminally liable. 872 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: And before you go. 873 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift as surprised fans in Nashville as she took 874 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 3: to the stage at Travis Kelcey's charity concert to seeing 875 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: shake it Off. 876 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 2: Let's have a quick look. I may have to reinstitute 877 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 2: some sort of a. 878 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 3: Taylor's Swift Travis Kelsey ban again on this program. Kinsey, 879 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can put up with too 880 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 3: many more clips like that. 881 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 7: Look, we talked about prenups. 882 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 4: All I have to say to Taylor Swift is please, 883 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 4: for the love of God, athletes are notorious for burning 884 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 4: through their money the second they no longer have work 885 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Please get a prenum, Taylor, please listen 886 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 4: to us. 887 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: Well. 888 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 2: I'm still hoping. 889 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say this, but I'm hoping for a fantastic 890 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 3: album post breakup. I can still see a breakup happening 891 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 3: and a number one album, and then she'll find love 892 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 3: with someone more suitable. Kinsey Schofield, thank you so much 893 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 3: for your time, and that's all the time we have tonight. 894 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,439 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow. Night at nine pm. For Left, 895 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 3: he's losing it. News Night is up next