Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening. Tonight our exclusive interview with the Israeli at
Speaker 2: the center of the shocking video when nurses threatened to
Speaker 2: kill him. Max Viefer would join me live in his
Speaker 2: first interview. Plus New South Illes Health Minister Ryan Park
Speaker 2: will be on the show with his reaction to these
Speaker 2: vile anti Semites, and journalist Leah Mendes will be here
Speaker 2: to talk about how his phone was snatched and he
Speaker 2: was abused by the female nurse's family when he tried
Speaker 2: to get a comment. Full coverage here tonight on this
Speaker 2: scandal at Bangstown Hospital. Also tonight, Defact criticized for spending
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars on welcome to country ceremonies. Shadow
Speaker 2: Foreign Affairs Minister David Coleman wants this to change and
Speaker 2: he'll be on a bit later. Plus, after their cozy
Speaker 2: cocktail party with the Prime Minister, the teals now need
Speaker 2: to come out and say who'd they support in the
Speaker 2: case of a hung parliament. Michael Kroger and Graham Richardson
Speaker 2: will discuss shortly, but first let's start with the video
Speaker 2: that shocked and appawed us all today. Two nurses in
Speaker 2: a major New South Wales public hospital boasting about killing
Speaker 2: Israeli patients. The two nurses were stood down from Bangstown
Speaker 2: Hospital today, with Health Minister Ryan Park who's coming up,
Speaker 2: vowing the disgusting pair will never work in the health
Speaker 2: system again. But let's first name and shame them. This
Speaker 2: is Ahmed Russhed Nadea. The Telegraph reports that he was
Speaker 2: born in Afghanistan and became an Australian citizen just four
Speaker 2: years ago after immigrating when he was twelve. He's been
Speaker 2: treating patients in Western Sydney since twenty eighteen. His brother
Speaker 2: is a paramedic with New South Wales Ambulance Service. And
Speaker 2: this nurse is Sarah Abu Lebde. She's twenty six. Now
Speaker 2: here's what the male nurse said he'd already done to
Speaker 2: Israeli patients.
Speaker 3: Okay, you have no idea how many Israeli had a
Speaker 3: dog came to this hospital and Jehanna.
Speaker 2: Jehanna. So to be very clear, he's saying they would
Speaker 2: kill and they've already killed Israeli patients. And they seemed
Speaker 2: pretty defiant and proud about it. They were boasting and
Speaker 2: insistent that they'd do it again. Here's what the nurse said,
Speaker 2: they do if in Israeli came into their hospital.
Speaker 4: Let's say an Israeli, God forbid them.
Speaker 2: I went treat them, aw kill them.
Speaker 4: You'll kill them. So if an Israeli is in Australia
Speaker 4: and that's will be something happened to him and he
Speaker 4: comes to your hospital.
Speaker 2: This is Jihadi language. It's utterly un Australian. And the
Speaker 2: female nurse, Sarah wished Max Weifer the Israeli they were
Speaker 2: speaking with a horrible death.
Speaker 3: I'm so upset that Israeli, Like, eventually you're gonna get
Speaker 3: killed and you're gonna go to Jhanda. You think it's
Speaker 3: pretty iest that should say in this in this world
Speaker 3: for longer.
Speaker 4: What do you think? Why do you think I'm going
Speaker 4: to get killed?
Speaker 2: It's Palistin's country, not.
Speaker 3: One day, one day.
Speaker 5: One day, time will come and you will.
Speaker 2: Die the most.
Speaker 6: We spread this intimate and when your time comes.
Speaker 3: How are you doctors?
Speaker 6: I want you to remember.
Speaker 2: I have okay, okay.
Speaker 4: You will. I have a question though.
Speaker 2: And by the way, just minutes before I came on
Speaker 2: air tonight, I spoke to Max on the phone making
Speaker 2: sure he was ready for our interview, and he told
Speaker 2: me Instagram has pulled down the video from his Instagram page.
Speaker 2: He's exposing anti Semitism, not promoting it. It's disgraceful. Now,
Speaker 2: the Health Minister, Ryan Park, couldn't have been stronger. He'll
Speaker 2: be here in a moment. He said, these two nurses
Speaker 2: won't ever work in New South El's health again.
Speaker 1: These two individuals in no way are healthcare professionals. They
Speaker 1: are disgusting individuals and we will do everything we can
Speaker 1: to make sure that not only is this issue investigated,
Speaker 1: which is one issue. I don't want to give these
Speaker 1: two a sciric of light, a sceric of light to
Speaker 1: be able to somehow weasel their way back into New
Speaker 1: South Wales Health.
Speaker 2: Now. Police visited Bangstown Hospital today and there are now
Speaker 2: investigations as well into how past patients were treated. And
Speaker 2: we absolutely categorically need to know if what those nurses
Speaker 2: said is true, if they've ever killed Jewish Israeli patients.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm even saying those words. It's insane.
Speaker 2: New South Wales Health need to do a thorough investigation
Speaker 2: here and the Minister needs to stay on top of it.
Speaker 2: We also need to know if this GHRDI attitude is
Speaker 2: limited to this pair in Bangstown Hospital or if it's
Speaker 2: spread throughout the hospital and the health system. Because if
Speaker 2: they felt comfortable speaking in that way in the middle
Speaker 2: of a busy public hospital, well it makes you wonder
Speaker 2: whether that view is normal and socially acceptable in that workplace.
Speaker 2: So this all needs to be part of the investigation,
Speaker 2: along with questioning of their supervisor. Did their supervisor know
Speaker 2: that the pair felt this way? Now, if this behavior
Speaker 2: wasn't caught on camera, then we would know nothing about it,
Speaker 2: and that's our fear. We suspect that this sentiment is
Speaker 2: out there, but we just don't usually have the evidence.
Speaker 2: And look at how one family member and the friends
Speaker 2: of the female nurse, Sarah reacted when my friend journalist
Speaker 2: at The Australian, Leah Mendes, went to visit her house today.
Speaker 2: He went just looking for comment to this big story.
Speaker 2: It's been the biggest news story of the day. He
Speaker 2: was very polite, he was on public property, and yet
Speaker 2: a woman screamed at him to leave, and then another
Speaker 2: man stole his phone and a third man intimidated him.
Speaker 2: Have a look, now, why are you.
Speaker 7: Say about the allegation tell me I still walking towards
Speaker 7: the faith. Nate mat mat this, Okay, I need my
Speaker 7: phone back.
Speaker 2: And Liam actually couldn't get his phone back for quite
Speaker 2: a while. It wasn't a very quick return there. I've
Speaker 2: seen the full video and Liam Mendes is going to
Speaker 2: be on the show a bit later now. I made
Speaker 2: Noda was a little bit more apologetic only after he
Speaker 2: was publicly shamed, and he told Liam that this was
Speaker 2: a joke and a misunderstanding, adding he didn't mean to offend. Well,
Speaker 2: I find this difficult to stomach. A joke, what's funny
Speaker 2: about killing Jewish israelis a misunderstanding. I think it's perfectly
Speaker 2: clear from the video. You've seen what Nadea and Lebde
Speaker 2: mean and what they stand for. There's been no misunderstanding here.
Speaker 2: So let's have a look at how all of this
Speaker 2: unfolded and where this video came from. Max Viifa is
Speaker 2: in his le content creator. He was on a video
Speaker 2: chat site an app, and he records the chats and
Speaker 2: he's caught plenty of anti Semitism because when people find
Speaker 2: out that they're speaking within Israeli they say some pretty
Speaker 2: horrific things. Now, Hollywood actor Nate Buzz saw this video
Speaker 2: overnight and he sent it to me at six point
Speaker 2: thirty this morning. He then connected me with Max and
Speaker 2: I was able to verify the video and understand the
Speaker 2: circumstances in which it was taken. I then texted it
Speaker 2: directly to the new South Iales Health Minister, Ryan Park
Speaker 2: at seven twenty am. He hadn't seen it. He told
Speaker 2: me he would deal with it personally and he immediately
Speaker 2: found it shocking and appalling and as I said, his
Speaker 2: reaction today couldn't have been stronger and we can't applaud
Speaker 2: him enough.
Speaker 1: At about seven twenty this morning, I was informed and
Speaker 1: made aware of one of the most fire shocking and
Speaker 1: appalling videos I have ever seen to individual healthcare workers
Speaker 1: behaving in a way that I never thought I would
Speaker 1: see representing one of our new South Wales hospitals. I
Speaker 1: as the new South Wales Health Minister and Susan as
Speaker 1: the Secretary. I am so very sorry that you're having
Speaker 1: to deal with this. I'm assure the Jewish community today
Speaker 1: that they have my utmost sorrow, but more importantly, my
Speaker 1: utmost energy, dedication and time along with the Secretary to
Speaker 1: reassure them that our hospitals will continue to provide them
Speaker 1: high quality, safe care every time and any time they present.
Speaker 2: The Minister acted swiftly. He called an investigation, his team
Speaker 2: spoke to the Police Commissioner and made it clear that
Speaker 2: the Joe's pair will never step foot in a public
Speaker 2: hospital again as you hurt. But in my view it
Speaker 2: needs to go further than that. Oprah, the regulator need
Speaker 2: to make sure that this pair lose the nursing registration.
Speaker 2: They should never ever be able to be in a
Speaker 2: position to give treatment to anyone in or out of
Speaker 2: the New South Wales Health System. And by the way,
Speaker 2: the Health Secretary was equally as strong and unequivocal in
Speaker 2: her condemnation as well, and she even was quite emotional
Speaker 2: at the start of the press conference.
Speaker 6: Never in my wildest dreams did I think that I
Speaker 6: would be standing here with two staff of the New
Speaker 6: South Wales Health System having said such horrendous things about
Speaker 6: our community, and particularly to our Jewish community. I offer
Speaker 6: my sincere apologies and confirmation as the Minister has said
Speaker 6: that we will fulsomely and thoroughly investigate this.
Speaker 2: Now. Something Ryan Parks said publicly today really struck me.
Speaker 2: He said he wished these people weren't in our society
Speaker 2: at all. We never hear that language from Alban Ezy
Speaker 2: or Penny Wong. It was so strong and so true.
Speaker 2: This kind of hatred and blatant racism just doesn't belong
Speaker 2: in Australia.
Speaker 1: Well, I'd say that they are vile, disgusting and deranged
Speaker 1: individuals who have a view that does not reflect their
Speaker 1: colleagues view, does not reflect the health or hospital system
Speaker 1: that they're part OF's view does not reflect their community's view,
Speaker 1: and their view is not welcome and will not be
Speaker 1: welcome ever again in New South Wales Health as an employee.
Speaker 2: The fact that we're so surprised to hear this language
Speaker 2: is a reflection on how weak our federal political leadership
Speaker 2: has been to feel gratitude when politicians do the right
Speaker 2: thing by simply saying they don't want racist grubs in
Speaker 2: our society. I mean, it should be a given. We
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to feel gratitude for this. But what we
Speaker 2: see in this video is the sort of racism and
Speaker 2: hatred and murderous language that we know exists, but like
Speaker 2: I said, so rare to get it on camera. We
Speaker 2: hear people on the street chanting all Zionists and terrorists,
Speaker 2: and then you wonder where they work and what they
Speaker 2: would do if they came face to face with a Jew.
Speaker 2: You might go into hospital for a procedure, and as
Speaker 2: you're about to go under the general anesthetic, you hope
Speaker 2: that the person treating you, or any of the nursing
Speaker 2: staff that you hope that they don't hate Jews, and
Speaker 2: you wonder whether they can tell that you're Jewish. Now,
Speaker 2: this is how many of us felt before this video today,
Speaker 2: and now those concerns will be even more real now.
Speaker 2: This was so the very first issue raised by the
Speaker 2: Coalition in Federal Parliament today. Julian Lisa, who was on
Speaker 2: the show last night, he opened Parliamentary question Time with
Speaker 2: this serious question, Prime Minister.
Speaker 8: For the last fifteen months, Jewish Australians have been subjected
Speaker 8: to harassment, doxing, fire bombing, death threats and terror plots.
Speaker 8: Today we've seen revelations of New South Wales health workers
Speaker 8: calling for Israeli patients to be refused treatment and claiming
Speaker 8: to have murdered Israelis under their care. Prime Minister, the
Speaker 8: Australian Jewish community is living in fear. How did the
Speaker 8: country get to this point.
Speaker 2: Now. The Prime Minister then condemned it with his usual
Speaker 2: language where he says, with no real feeling or passion,
Speaker 2: that this type of anti Semitism has no place in
Speaker 2: our country.
Speaker 9: These any Semitic comments have no place, certainly in our
Speaker 9: health system, but no place anywhere else in Australia either
Speaker 9: overwhelmed people in our health system, our nurses, our doctors,
Speaker 9: our orderlies. They go into the health system because they
Speaker 9: care about their fellow Australians, they fellow humans.
Speaker 2: And then he got into the weeds talking about what
Speaker 2: sort of video app this was. I mean, compare his
Speaker 2: weak response with the strong, passionate words of the Health
Speaker 2: Minister in New South Wales and you really get a
Speaker 2: sense of just how weak the Prime Minister is. He
Speaker 2: finds it much easier speaking out against neo Nazis than
Speaker 2: against Islamic extremism, when both pose the most serious threat
Speaker 2: to the Jewish community and the Australian way of life. Okay,
Speaker 2: for more on this, And as you know, I've got
Speaker 2: Max Weifer, the Israeli at the center of the video.
Speaker 2: He's coming up, plus Lea Mendis and the Health Minister.
Speaker 2: But now let's bring in form a big Torrian Liberal
Speaker 2: Party president Michael Kroger and former Labor Minister Gray and Richardson.
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. Michael, can you believe what Australia
Speaker 2: has come to that there's now going to be a
Speaker 2: serious investigation into where the Jewish patients have actually been
Speaker 2: killed at Bankstown Hospital.
Speaker 10: I just saw an email from someone who was going
Speaker 10: to have an operation there. A Jewish man have an
Speaker 10: operation there a few years ago under the Liberal government,
Speaker 10: by the way, not under Men's. He canceled his operation
Speaker 10: at Bankstown Hospital because a friend of his who worked
Speaker 10: at the hospital said, if a Jewish don't come here,
Speaker 10: they spit on the food of the Jews before it's delivered.
Speaker 10: They don't do mandatory post ops. They leave their beds
Speaker 10: soiled for as long as they possibly can. They make
Speaker 10: life as difficult as possible for Jewish patients. So he said,
Speaker 10: I canceled my operation of the hospital because of that.
Speaker 10: That now has I said, that's before Men's. This has
Speaker 10: been going on at this hospital, this Jewish hatred for years,
Speaker 10: and now at a point in this country, nobody's listening
Speaker 10: to albou If I hear him say one more time.
Speaker 10: There's no place for any Semitism in this country, Albo.
Speaker 10: No one is listening to you. Nobody, zilch nobody. Malcolm
Speaker 10: Turnbull called a Royal commission Shari into the Dondale Youth
Speaker 10: Detention Center in twenty sixteen in the Northern Territory, a
Speaker 10: smaller issue than the nationwide outbreak of Jewish hatred will have.
Speaker 10: If Alberanizi had any any ounce of decency, any sense
Speaker 10: of decency, any sense of concern for Jewish Australians, he
Speaker 10: would immediately call a royal commission into antisemitism in this country,
Speaker 10: not a royal commission into all religious hatred. By the way,
Speaker 10: let's look out of that. Anti Semitisms levels we've never
Speaker 10: seen before in my life and I'm getting older. That's
Speaker 10: what's needed in this country. A royal commission into anti Semitism.
Speaker 10: He needs to do it urgently because things are getting
Speaker 10: worse than this country Shari, not better, not better. And
Speaker 10: as you say, another pathetic response from him today, Thank
Speaker 10: goodness of people like Ryan Park, the new South Wales
Speaker 10: Labor Health Minister. Big tick for you, mister Park, for
Speaker 10: having the guts and courage to say what you did
Speaker 10: good on you, mate.
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about all forms of racism. You
Speaker 2: know the statement that was put out today by the
Speaker 2: Nurses Union, the Nurses and Midwives Union, their very first
Speaker 2: sentence was that they condemn all forms of racism, bigotry
Speaker 2: and hatred, including acts of anti Semitism and Islamophobia. That's
Speaker 2: the Nurses Union today. I mean, it's just not a
Speaker 2: we're witnessing, Richo. You know a lot of people have
Speaker 2: thought because initially there was this global wave of protests,
Speaker 2: but now the fact is that Australia is worse than
Speaker 2: perhaps almost anywhere else in the world. But you know,
Speaker 2: maybe parts of Europe are worse, Paris and London, but
Speaker 2: Australia is right up there, and other countries have got
Speaker 2: to handle on antisemitism better, rich O. This has to
Speaker 2: come down to federal leadership, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 11: I certainly think federal leadership is an element here that
Speaker 11: has not been exercised properly. I'm frankly just appalled, flatberg acids, stunned,
Speaker 11: and I'm sad just said that in my country, I've
Speaker 11: got to share a land with grubs like we are
Speaker 11: seeing at the moment.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and sad is the right word
Speaker 2: for it for all of Australia. Now, just on this topic,
Speaker 2: antisemitism at Sydney's Macquarie University has got so bad. And
Speaker 2: this is the front page of the Daily Telegraph today
Speaker 2: by the way, also in the Herald Sign. But look
Speaker 2: at it front page. UNI's Panic Room. They've opened up
Speaker 2: a high security safe room for Jewish students. So I mean,
Speaker 2: Michael again, instead of banning the protests or expelling students
Speaker 2: who act in an anti Semitic way, you know that
Speaker 2: they're creating a punic room. Shouldn't the entire campus be safe,
Speaker 2: not just a single room, Michael Kroger, No.
Speaker 10: It's better just you just better have a little single
Speaker 10: room for the Jews to feel safe. What an absolute face,
Speaker 10: But Shari, these university vice chancellors like Mark Scott, the
Speaker 10: fellow at Melbourne University, Mascal whatever his name is. At
Speaker 10: the A and U, these people are still in their
Speaker 10: million dollar jobs. These people should have all been sacked
Speaker 10: by the university councils. You know, I've called on Julie
Speaker 10: bis Bishop before to take action at the A and U.
Speaker 10: This is not party political, this is all you know,
Speaker 10: A lot of this was to do with what's happening
Speaker 10: at universities and to have to open a safe for
Speaker 10: a meta university in Australia to protect yous, I mean, Albow.
Speaker 10: You've got to call a royal commission into Jewish hatred, which,
Speaker 10: which has which has got, which was started and has
Speaker 10: got worse under his watch, and from the Opera House onwards,
Speaker 10: this federal government has basically licensed a lot of these
Speaker 10: extremists by all of the acts that all of those
Speaker 10: small acts that they've done one by one to dog
Speaker 10: whistle to the extremists that it's all right to oppose
Speaker 10: israel I e subtext Jews right, Oh it's all again
Speaker 10: Zionist or Israel No, No, it's Jews right and Alban easy.
Speaker 10: In great contrast to Min's and this fellow park today,
Speaker 10: what a disgrace, Albo has been. The Only thing you
Speaker 10: can do to show if you've got any sense of
Speaker 10: decency is to call a royal commission tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Shari, Well, I think we should put that idea on
Speaker 2: the table at our anti Semitism summit, which I know
Speaker 2: you're coming to next week. Michael Krogan Rich, Oh, oh
Speaker 2: there you're of course we invited as well. Look Max
Speaker 2: VI for the Israeli in that video, he's just moments away.
Speaker 2: So I just want to get to another couple of
Speaker 2: topics before we bring him in. Richo. The Prime Minister
Speaker 2: clearly worried about his chances at the federal election because
Speaker 2: he's now running a charm offensive with the Teals. He
Speaker 2: had them over to the lodge for cocktails. Here's what
Speaker 2: they said outside.
Speaker 3: Doctor Ryan, what do you hope to discuss tonight with
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister?
Speaker 6: Future plans bring you a community independent is something new?
Speaker 6: So I think it's just you know, applauding that.
Speaker 2: But I think us being here tonight actually just shows
Speaker 2: that we have respect for the process. Now, you don't
Speaker 2: say no to the Prime Minister. It's a respectful invitation
Speaker 2: and may mob. We're low late, rich O, you know
Speaker 2: what is going on here? And don't you think that
Speaker 2: people who are living in electorates where there are TiAl
Speaker 2: and peace, they need to know which way the Teals
Speaker 2: are going to vote if there's a hung parliament.
Speaker 11: Well, and I don't think the Teals know how are
Speaker 11: they going to vote? You've got to remember that this
Speaker 11: is very loose organization. It's not exactly a party with
Speaker 11: a proper constitution and rules and everything else. He's a
Speaker 11: pretty ragtag mob.
Speaker 7: Who knows what they're going to do.
Speaker 11: If they don't know, how the hell are we going
Speaker 11: to know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they probably have a fair idea my core.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're running in liberal seats. All of their
Speaker 2: language is in opposition to the Liberals. We know they're
Speaker 2: voting record that's been in the news the past couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. You know, what do you think?
Speaker 10: I tend to think the Teals are in trouble ellectorally.
Speaker 10: The margins in Victoria, at least in Goldston and Kyon
Speaker 10: are narrow. Don't forget eighty percent of Teal voters were
Speaker 10: labor voters before they voted Teal. The labor votes collapsed,
Speaker 10: primary votes collapsed in Victoria, and it's collapsing in New
Speaker 10: South Wales. The Teals represent a lot of areas where
Speaker 10: they are Jewish voters. By the way, for example, Goldstein,
Speaker 10: where Zoey Daniel couldn't wait to sign the unrefunding letter
Speaker 10: restoration of unrefunding letter as did other Teals. I think
Speaker 10: modernk Ryan signed it as well, So I think they
Speaker 10: tend to be in they're intending to be in trouble,
Speaker 10: and of course Albos has to try and win them
Speaker 10: over because he may need them. Although I think the
Speaker 10: way things are going not even the tools will be
Speaker 10: able to save elbow.
Speaker 2: All right, rich oh, Michael Kroagai and cut this just
Speaker 2: a tiny bit shot today because we're going to get
Speaker 2: to Max Viva now in Israel. Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: always so wise. Great to have you one. All right,
Speaker 2: I'm joined now by the Israeli content creator, Max Viva,
Speaker 2: who's at the center of this video that has blown
Speaker 2: up and made the news today. Max, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Welcome, hey everyone, thank you for having me here.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for being here. You've had a
Speaker 2: million media requests and this is your exclusive interview, so
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Max. Let's start by replaying a little
Speaker 2: bit of that video. Let's have a look. I won't
Speaker 2: freak them up, kill them.
Speaker 3: I have a question though, Okay, you have no idea
Speaker 3: how many Israeli dog came to this hospital, and I've
Speaker 3: been at the Jahanna.
Speaker 2: Max. I want to start by saying, I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: that this has happened to you. Most Australians are not
Speaker 2: like this. Most Australians stand with you and stand with
Speaker 2: your people and stand with Israel, and have done so,
Speaker 2: especially since October seven. Thank you. You didn't deserve this,
Speaker 2: look Ken, Thank you.
Speaker 4: You know it's been a dream of mine actually to
Speaker 4: come visit Australia and hope one day actually I'll come
Speaker 4: to Australia.
Speaker 2: Come come, We'd love to have you. But can you
Speaker 2: start by telling us how this video happened last night overnight.
Speaker 4: I understand last night, so as you know, I create
Speaker 4: content on Amigo where I expose people, where I talk
Speaker 4: with other with different people from all over the world,
Speaker 4: and last night I was talking with these two doctors,
Speaker 4: two nurses. Turns out their nurses, not even doctors. As
Speaker 4: soon as they found out that I'm from Israel, the
Speaker 4: started cursing me and threatening me that they're gonna kill me,
Speaker 4: that they're never gonna treat Israeli patients at their hospitals.
Speaker 4: I was shocked. It's it's insane that so far away
Speaker 4: in Australia the hate has gone so far, Like is
Speaker 4: there a country far is then Australia like to Israel,
Speaker 4: it's so far and the the the raising anti Semitism
Speaker 4: is just growing and growing in Australia and it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I know, it's I was shocked, but I had a
Speaker 4: mission to accomplish, you know, I had to expose them,
Speaker 4: so I had to to stay calm and and and
Speaker 4: get as much info as I can so I can
Speaker 4: post it and show my people and we can find them,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And that was so impressive, just how came you were
Speaker 2: as they were threatening you. As the one nurse who
Speaker 2: has been identified today, her name is Sarah, you know,
Speaker 2: she's been named and shamed across all of the media.
Speaker 2: You know, she said to you that she wishes that
Speaker 2: you would have a horrible death, and Max, you thought
Speaker 2: to ask her what happens? And if an Israeli comes
Speaker 2: into your hospital and they said they wouldn't treat them,
Speaker 2: they'd kill the Israeli. I mean, what what was your reaction?
Speaker 4: They don't kill the Israelies and they killed the Israelies.
Speaker 4: So I think they should launch another investigation, you know,
Speaker 4: to look up if they've done anything, you know, in
Speaker 4: the past, because the way they were talking is just
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I exposed to nurses, but
Speaker 4: how many else are there, you know, like you got
Speaker 4: to look into the stuff, you know, run check round
Speaker 4: like yes, check everyone, and always say it's just I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's just concerning. It's concerning me that it's
Speaker 4: like I'm talking with people from from Australia and.
Speaker 2: It's shocking, Jucky and you probably don't know this, but
Speaker 2: the Health Minister did come out today and he said
Speaker 2: they would have an investigation into how past patients at
Speaker 2: Bangstown Hospital were treated. Those two are actually nurses, not doctors,
Speaker 2: not that that makes a difference. You know, health professionals
Speaker 2: within the New Southwest public Health system. They have been sacked.
Speaker 2: Even the Prime Minister spoke about this in question time today.
Speaker 2: So Maxis has been taken very seriously what you've managed
Speaker 2: to expose. You know, a lot of us in Australia
Speaker 2: we know this anti Semitism exists. There's been a crime
Speaker 2: wave here, We've had a preschool fire bomb, we've had
Speaker 2: a synagogue burnt down, cars are being torched, but it's
Speaker 2: very rare that you actually get someone in a professional
Speaker 2: environment on camera. So it's made such a big impact today.
Speaker 2: Have you, as an Israeli been surprised at this level
Speaker 2: of anti Semitism in Australia and around the world look sad.
Speaker 4: Anti Semitism, unfortunately, is growing and growing ever since the
Speaker 4: war started two years ago. It's just it has grown tremendously.
Speaker 4: Like everyone hates me on that, but seeing doctors, seeing nurses,
Speaker 4: seeing medical stuff that's supposed to treat people, everyone that's
Speaker 4: supposed to take care of people, seeing them saying these
Speaker 4: things just made me. Yeah, made me sad and made
Speaker 4: me you know, I don't know who I can trust anymore.
Speaker 4: You know, if God forbid them in a hospital anywhere, Like,
Speaker 4: can I trust them? Can I like, if I go
Speaker 4: on there anesthesia? Can I trust these doctors? Should I
Speaker 4: ask them? Should I tell them I'm from Israel?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: Is it going to make a difference?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And those are the questions not just Israelis, but
Speaker 2: Jewish Australians will be asking now as well. Now, Max,
Speaker 2: Instagram has now taken down your video expose using this
Speaker 2: What was that reason for removing it?
Speaker 4: I didn't go into details, actually, but you know it's
Speaker 4: their algorithm is probably AI generated and I actually issued
Speaker 4: an appeal and hopefully they'll restore the video. I think
Speaker 4: they said something harassment and threats, probably because they were
Speaker 4: threatening me and Instagram took it down. I hope they'll
Speaker 4: like restore the video shortly, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe
Speaker 4: I'll re upload it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you definitely.
Speaker 4: I hope the mission has accomplished.
Speaker 2: We got them exactly. I'm sure this has had a
Speaker 2: big impact on any of your exposes so far.
Speaker 4: Just finally, I want to thank everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, finally, Max, what's your message to the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: of Australia given this level of anti semitism you have
Speaker 2: now witnessed and brought to the surface.
Speaker 4: Well, I hope, I hope, I kind of. I hope
Speaker 4: I opened their eyes a little bit, uh to this
Speaker 4: tremendous anti Semitism that is going on in their country,
Speaker 4: in Australia, And I hope they're they'll finally start taking
Speaker 4: actions and to prevent uh, these these events from happening.
Speaker 4: And because you know, it's not the only case. I
Speaker 4: just recorded it, right and I dropped it on the internet.
Speaker 4: But how many other cases are happening in Australia. How
Speaker 4: many other events synagogues that that are I don't know,
Speaker 4: burned down and different things that that are happening. You
Speaker 4: should take this seriously and not you should just take
Speaker 4: this seriously. I have no other words. I mean, we
Speaker 4: do people were We want to live peacefully with everyone
Speaker 4: and we Israelitis. We don't want to like go to
Speaker 4: hospitals or to different countries and experience this hate for
Speaker 4: no reason. So a country should take care of it,
Speaker 4: you know, put some budget into into investigating these things.
Speaker 4: Put some budget into fighting anti semitism, you know, change
Speaker 4: these things. We're hoping for a better world, for a
Speaker 4: better Australia.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's all Jewish Australians want as well.
Speaker 2: We just want to live in peace as we always
Speaker 2: have done before. This truly unprecedented in Australia. It is unprecedented,
Speaker 2: unprecedented rise in anti Semitism that you have played such
Speaker 2: a big role in exposing Max. It was there, You've
Speaker 2: brought it to the surface and our country will be
Speaker 2: just a little bit safer tonight without those nurses working
Speaker 2: at backs Down Hospital. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I want to thank you everyone. I want to thank
Speaker 4: you everyone, the Jewish community, my Christian friends, everyone who
Speaker 4: has helped us to bring this story, to find them,
Speaker 4: to fire them, and it's just I mean it show
Speaker 4: us that we can unite sometimes against evil.
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed it does Max. Thank you very much for
Speaker 2: joining us, and stay safe. Thank you all right. Well
Speaker 2: still to come after the break the eyewatering amount of
Speaker 2: money spent on welcome to country ceremonies. David Coleman will
Speaker 2: join me, plus the journalist who was abused by one
Speaker 2: of the nurses family members, he'll join me, Life, welcome back. Well,
Speaker 2: still to come, the new South Wales Health Minister and
Speaker 2: Liam Mendes. But first let's have a look at this
Speaker 2: story in the Daily Telegraph today. The defact spent one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on welcome to country ceremonies over the
Speaker 2: two years to July twenty twenty four, and two examples
Speaker 2: of this were six six hundred dollars on a smoking
Speaker 2: and welcome to country ceremony in October twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and then five and a half thousand dollars on a
Speaker 2: welcome to country in March twenty twenty three for a
Speaker 2: delegation from Malaysia. Shadow Foreign Afairs Minister David Coleman joins me. Now, David,
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Will these ceremonies be a focus
Speaker 2: for the coalition if you win government.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Shari, I mean we've got to spend every
Speaker 5: cent carefully. We are in a cost of living crisis
Speaker 5: the making of the Albanese government. And for ordinary Australians
Speaker 5: to see six figure amount spent just within one department,
Speaker 5: within Defat on these ceremonies, most people would say that's
Speaker 5: far too much. Now, there were occasions where these ceremonies
Speaker 5: can be appropriate, but to be dozens and dozens of them,
Speaker 5: and the government needs to have its hands on the
Speaker 5: lever controlling public spending. And Minister Wong is responsible for this.
Speaker 5: I mean she's the boss of the department. And the
Speaker 5: minister either stands behind this expenditure or she doesn't, and
Speaker 5: she should be held accountable for it.
Speaker 2: Where do you draw the line when it comes to
Speaker 2: welcome to country ceremony? You know we've heard this Enterprise
Speaker 2: say there's too many of them. But how do you
Speaker 2: determine if they should or shouldn't take place?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I think you've got to use common sense.
Speaker 5: And there'll be some occasions, as I said, Shara, with
Speaker 5: major events and so on, where it may be appropriate,
Speaker 5: but it's certainly not appropriate. It basically every time a
Speaker 5: group of people get together, which is what seems to
Speaker 5: be happening now, and we've got to be sensible about this.
Speaker 5: It's not Penny Wong's money, it's not Anthony Alberanzi's money.
Speaker 5: It's the money of everyday Australians and of course we've
Speaker 5: got to be cautious in how we spend that. And
Speaker 5: that's what they haven't done here, and that's what we
Speaker 5: would do in government.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the trade tariffs that
Speaker 2: Trump has signed an executive order on. He says he's
Speaker 2: giving consideration to exempting Australia from the latest round of tariffs.
Speaker 2: But his top trade advisor, Pete Navarro, who I know
Speaker 2: quite well, he's singled out Australia for criticism.
Speaker 7: Have a look, Australia is just killing our aluminum market
Speaker 7: and the President Trump says, no, no, we're not, We're
Speaker 7: not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2: So, David, this is a difficult situation because clearly Malcolm
Speaker 2: Turnbull in the past and Scott Morris in the past
Speaker 2: did manage to negotiate these exemptions with Trump. But now
Speaker 2: there's a Prime minister who's criticized the President in the past,
Speaker 2: and ambassador who's done the same, and a foreign minister
Speaker 2: who's done the same, and I just I'm not hopeful,
Speaker 2: I'm not overly hopeful that if Albanezy couldn't convince Trump
Speaker 2: in a forty minute call, well, I mean this comes
Speaker 2: in in about three weeks time. What's your perception. Well, well,
Speaker 2: we see Chario.
Speaker 5: Look and the right thing to do here is focus
Speaker 5: on our national interest, and our national interest is we
Speaker 5: don't want these tariffs on Australian goods because that's bad
Speaker 5: for Australia. And so we've all got to in a sense,
Speaker 5: hope the government gets this right, and they should because
Speaker 5: we did it.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 5: The circumstances are very similar. The Coalition was able to
Speaker 5: manage it. And it is very unfortunate that the prime
Speaker 5: ministers made those remarks in the past, that Minister Wong's
Speaker 5: made those remarks, Kevin Rudd's made those remarks, and we
Speaker 5: hope that that doesn't have a bearing on this because
Speaker 5: this is important in our national interest and we've got
Speaker 5: strong arguments. We've got a trade surplus, the US has
Speaker 5: a trade surplus with US. We're spending heavily in the
Speaker 5: US defense infrastructure. So very strong arguments here and the
Speaker 5: government just needs to get it done.
Speaker 2: All right, David Coleman, appreciate your time. Now still to come,
Speaker 2: New South Wales Health Minister Ryan Park will be on
Speaker 2: the show and I'll ask him about whether this is
Speaker 2: a cultural problem in the health system and at Bangstown Hospital.
Speaker 2: Plus Leah Mendy's will be live from Bangstown Police Station.
Speaker 2: How he felt being chased and abused by the nurses.
Speaker 2: That's coming up. Welcome back, okay, let's bring in New
Speaker 2: South Wales Health Minister Ryan Park. Now, Ryan, thank you
Speaker 2: for your time. Look, first I want to ask you
Speaker 2: what your immediate reaction was this morning when I sent
Speaker 2: you the video.
Speaker 1: Well, when you sent me the video and I had
Speaker 1: a look at it, I literally couldn't believe what I
Speaker 1: was seeing. I was shocked, horrified, appalled.
Speaker 10: I looked at it.
Speaker 1: Multiple times, I went back through it. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty five two healthcare workers would behave
Speaker 1: in such a disgusting and appalling and shocking way. And
Speaker 1: from that moment on, I was determined that those people
Speaker 1: would never work in New South Wales health again, and
Speaker 1: they be never responsible for patients in the care of
Speaker 1: a system that I'm the Minister for.
Speaker 2: Clearly you've said they're never going to work in New
Speaker 2: South Wales health system. But does APRA also now need
Speaker 2: to remove their nursing license, their nursing registration? You know
Speaker 2: what other action needs to happen because no one would
Speaker 2: feel safe, whether it's in public system or in private system,
Speaker 2: being treated by either of these nurses.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And can I say from the very outset
Speaker 1: chari that I'm very sorry to the Jewish community We've
Speaker 1: let them down today. Public health is a bedrock of
Speaker 1: an Australian society, and it's a bedrock of a New
Speaker 1: South Wales society, and today we let them down in
Speaker 1: no uncertain term. This morning, once I got that video
Speaker 1: from you, I immediately contacted the Health Secretary of Susan
Speaker 1: Pierce and from then we began contacting the Healthcare Complaints Commission,
Speaker 1: who in turn started engaging with OPRAH and others, and
Speaker 1: that process is now underway. I don't, in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form want to see these people work in
Speaker 1: a private system, in a public system, in a hospital,
Speaker 1: in an age care setting anywhere in this country. And
Speaker 1: I will do my very best to make sure that
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: And I really appreciate your strong comments today, your strong
Speaker 2: and decisive action, and also the sentiments you express there
Speaker 2: for the Jewish community. We really appreciate that you've said
Speaker 2: now that you're going to commence an investigation or ask
Speaker 2: the health department to start an investigation examining the past
Speaker 2: patients who've been treated at Bangstown Hospital. Where is that
Speaker 2: up to so far? And have you uncovered any red
Speaker 2: flags at the point I realize it's only been so today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: That's fine, completely reasonable.
Speaker 1: Look, Shari, one of the things that I need to
Speaker 1: do is over the next few days, weeks and months
Speaker 1: is try and re establish that trust with the Jewish
Speaker 1: community and their local health and hospital services in their
Speaker 1: own community, no matter where they live. Now to do that,
Speaker 1: what I've got to try and do is make sure
Speaker 1: that these individuals have not been responsible for any adverse
Speaker 1: patient outcomes in the past. Now, when we've done an
Speaker 1: initial very very desktop scan, not diving into issues, but
Speaker 1: very desktop scan, the Bankstown Hospital doesn't stand out as
Speaker 1: an outlier in relation to patient complaints or adverse outcomes. Now,
Speaker 1: what we will start to do is through their supervisors,
Speaker 1: which will be a very thorough, detailed and extensive search
Speaker 1: examine if there have been any adverse outcomes that may
Speaker 1: be attributable to this type of view that was shared
Speaker 1: by these two individuals in that shocking video that you
Speaker 1: sent me this morning.
Speaker 2: Do you think there also needs to be examination of
Speaker 2: the wider workplace, particularly at Bangstown Hospital, to make sure
Speaker 2: that their supervisor that other colleagues don't share these sort
Speaker 2: of views because they felt so comfortable expressing them openly
Speaker 2: in a busy hospital, now.
Speaker 1: That's what concerned me. There was seemingly no concern that
Speaker 1: they were in the uniform, that they were in a
Speaker 1: public hospital, that they were meant to be caring for
Speaker 1: patients in their care. That seemed to be all forgotten.
Speaker 1: Now this morning I spoke with and I've had a
Speaker 1: number of conversations with the chief executive of Southwest Sydney
Speaker 1: Local Health District. I've also spoken with the general manager
Speaker 1: of that hospital. Tomorrow morning, I'll be going out to
Speaker 1: that hospital with Secretary Susan Pierce and meeting with staff.
Speaker 1: I'll be doing two things, Shari. To be honest, I'll
Speaker 1: be making it very clear that this type of behavior
Speaker 1: has no place in society, let alone in our public
Speaker 1: health facilities. But I'll also be making it clear Shari
Speaker 1: that I know that the vast majority of the one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty or one thousand people who work for
Speaker 1: New South Wales Health go to work every day just
Speaker 1: wanting to look after patients and do the very best
Speaker 1: thing for the people they care for. I know that.
Speaker 1: I know that as their minister. But these two individuals
Speaker 1: have absolutely let down, not only just in terms of
Speaker 1: a work that in our community.
Speaker 2: Just very quickly in terms of a workplace review. I
Speaker 2: understand you'll be visiting there, but shouldn't there be some
Speaker 2: sort of independent workplace review to make sure these views
Speaker 2: aren't more widespread, particularly at Bangstown Hospital.
Speaker 1: Well, part of our investigation, Shari, will be have a
Speaker 1: look at the culture at that hospital and to whether
Speaker 1: there are issues in that hospital that have allowed this
Speaker 1: to take place. I'm not making that accusation in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. I can tell you that I will
Speaker 1: be getting to the bottom of how these two individuals
Speaker 1: felt so comfortable to be able to express such vile,
Speaker 1: disgusting and hate filled speech in a way that they
Speaker 1: did so whilst in uniform, whilst meant to be looking
Speaker 1: after patients in their care, whilst in a public hospital
Speaker 1: that people rely on to deliver healthcare in the most
Speaker 1: vulnerable of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Ryan Park, appreciate your time and, as I've
Speaker 2: said multiple times tonight, really appreciate your strong and quick
Speaker 2: action on this issue. Thank you so much. Now let's
Speaker 2: quickly bring in Liam mend Is. He's outside Bangstown Police
Speaker 2: station now, Liam, thanks for joining us. Can you tell
Speaker 2: us what is happening on the ground in Bangstown, particularly
Speaker 2: with the police tonight.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me share. It's obviously a horrific situation
Speaker 7: that's unfolded in the last twelve hours. I've been working
Speaker 7: through Bankstown today in the Southwest Sydney region and we've
Speaker 7: been trying to get in touch with these two individuals.
Speaker 7: I did speak to missus Ladier earlier this afternoon. He
Speaker 7: spoke through the gate of his the closed gate of
Speaker 7: his home. It appeared had been through a lot of tears.
Speaker 7: But you know, he did not want to face the cameras.
Speaker 7: He asked us to put our cameras away. He did
Speaker 7: not want to say sorry on camera. Yet that was
Speaker 7: the same that Sarah. Her family told me that she
Speaker 7: was still inside her home buying having a panic attack.
Speaker 7: They said that, you know, they were possibly considering calling
Speaker 7: an ambulance for her. You know, obviously they've had a
Speaker 7: huge amount of public backlash, but at the end of
Speaker 7: the day, this is real, horrific comments that they have
Speaker 7: said without any form of sympathy towards Israeli people at all.
Speaker 7: Now police here are taking a very they're investigating this.
Speaker 7: They've been to own hospital earlier today obtain CCTV footage.
Speaker 7: It's expected that they will also be appearing here at
Speaker 7: the station at some point to be spoken to by police.
Speaker 2: All right, Leah Mendy's amazing reporting today as always extraordinary journalists.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. After the break, Bridget McKenzie,
Speaker 2: we'll be back in a minute. Welcome back, and Johnny
Speaker 2: Minow is National Senate leader. Bridget mackenzie. Bridget, thank you
Speaker 2: for your time. What is your view on the Albanezy
Speaker 2: government considering buying out collapsed airline recks.
Speaker 12: Great to be with you, Sharhi Well, I think this
Speaker 12: is going to be a problem for the over forty
Speaker 12: regional airlines that are already servicing regional communities who want
Speaker 12: a chance to actually grow that they'll be eventually competing
Speaker 12: against a government owned airline with very very deep pockets.
Speaker 12: We want to see regional communities connected. We've been fighting
Speaker 12: for affordable, accessible aviation services into the regions. But what
Speaker 12: you've seen the government do with this announcement today is
Speaker 12: essentially back the TWUS hand picked what solution, which is
Speaker 12: actually no solution at all and just shows how incompetent
Speaker 12: this government is on aviation policy. You know, we've had
Speaker 12: REX up for sale for over seven months. There is
Speaker 12: no buyer, but we know that there's regional airlines out
Speaker 12: there operating right now who'd love a chance to grow
Speaker 12: their business, and yet this minister and this government hasn't
Speaker 12: chosen to meet with them for two and a half years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's appalling. There is an argument that's been put
Speaker 2: forward that regional Australians would welcome the government's takeover because
Speaker 2: they say REX is needed in these regional areas where
Speaker 2: the other airlines aren't yet traveling to those places. What's
Speaker 2: your response to this argument.
Speaker 12: Well, I think it shows that if the government actually
Speaker 12: had have been on the front foot when this first happened,
Speaker 12: a bearing in mind the failure of Rex came four
Speaker 12: months after another regional airline went bust under the Albanzi government,
Speaker 12: being Bonza. If the government had have acted swiftly then
Speaker 12: to go towards an industry led solution, we wouldn't be
Speaker 12: in this situation right now. The fact is, what we
Speaker 12: want to see is exactly what everyone out in the
Speaker 12: regions wants is for regional Australians not to be stranded
Speaker 12: and so making sure that we can actually have a
Speaker 12: viable operation going that's not going to see local businesses
Speaker 12: go under as a result of having to compete with
Speaker 12: the government is our concern.
Speaker 2: Cay Bridget, We've only got one minute left. I apologize.
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about your support for
Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson's push for an inquiry into the medical treatment
Speaker 2: for transgender children.
Speaker 12: Here. Look, I believe the Parliament's a place we should
Speaker 12: be able to have the difficult conversations the challenging issues
Speaker 12: that our nation confronts, and that's why I voted in
Speaker 12: favor of the inquiry. I believe this is an issue
Speaker 12: that we need to have a serious and substantial conversation about.
Speaker 12: Get the experts in protect witnesses and debate it. I'm
Speaker 12: an old phys ed teacher. I want to at a
Speaker 12: personal level on the substantive issue the inquiry aside. I
Speaker 12: don't want to see girls competing against biological males in sport.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair. Absolutely all right, Bridget McKenzie,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. And I apologize, Shari. I apologize
Speaker 2: we had less time than usual. It's been a big show.
Speaker 2: I'll make it up to you next time. And I
Speaker 2: just want to say to everyone at home, thank you
Speaker 2: for the hundreds and hundreds of emails with your sugestions
Speaker 2: for antisemitism. Keep them coming. Summit at skynews dot com
Speaker 2: dot au, we're reading moll. I'll see you tomorrow at
Speaker 2: eight o'clock, but stay tuned because Paul Mari is up next.