1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: On scolds Australia. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: This is the winder Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahy Show. I'm 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi formally 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: recognizes a Palestinian state as Benjamin Etnaho labels the move shameful, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Chris Bowen's latest climate change lies. The implymer will join 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: me to fact check the minister's propaganda. John Heindereker on 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: the upcoming Russia Ukraine peace summit and what Europe is 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: demanding out of it. Trump derangement syndrome supper a rosio' 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: donell claims the view will be asked next and you 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: can guess who she's blaming. Kinsey Schofield has the latest 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: had of course left He's losing it, including Grandma Karen 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: gearing up for a Trump induced civil war. 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 4: Is everybody going to just go to the streets and 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: fight everybody that's coming and you should be scared of that? 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: Well, the PM has been buttering us up for weeks 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: about recognizing a Palestinian state and today he confirmed it. 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Australia will recognize Palestine at the UN General Assembly next month. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 5: Following the lead of the UK, France and Canada. 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 6: Australia will recognize the rite of the Palestinian people to 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 6: a state of their own, predicated on the commitments Australia 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 6: has received from the Palestinian authority. I have said it 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 6: publicly and I've said it directly to President Netna, to 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 6: Prime Minister Netanyahu. The situation in Gaza has gone beyond 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 6: the world's worst fears. Far too many innocent lives have 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 6: been lost. The Israeli government continues to defy international law 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 6: and deny sufficient aid, food and water to desperate people, 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 6: including children. 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: Please, what about the hostages? What about israel I mean? 30 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: All this does is reward hummus. And as for the 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: Palestinian authority, he quotes, it is run by the highly 32 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: anti Semitic mumbled abbas Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nenya, who 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: has lashed Australia's stance. 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 7: To have the European countries and Australia march into that, 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 7: march into that rabbit hole just like that, fall right 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 7: into it. And by this canard is disappointing and I 37 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 7: think it's it's actually shameful, but it's not going to 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 7: take It's not going to change our position. Those who 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 7: say that Israel has a right to defend itself are 40 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 7: also saying, but don't exercise that right. They know what 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 7: they would do if right next to Melbourne or right 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 7: next to Sydney you had this horrific attacks. I think 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 7: you would do it at least what we're doing. 44 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is SKYNYW Senior 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: reporter Caroline Marcus and sky New's contributor Rocco Lawyer Kono. 46 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me this evening. Caroline, 47 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: this is an absolute disgrace. What message which does this send? 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 8: What sends the message that if you are a terrorist 49 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 8: organization planning to carry out one of the worst massacres 50 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 8: in recent history, you will be rewarded for what you've done, 51 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 8: because that is exactly what Australia and the France, and 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 8: France and the UK and Canada have done in saying 53 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 8: that they are going to recognize a Palestinian state next 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 8: month at the UN General Assembly. Hamas is already seizing 55 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 8: on this, you know. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 8: said that after the UK made that decision not to, 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 8: France made the decision to recognize the state. The talks 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 8: fell apart for a ceasefire that were already under negotiation 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 8: between US, Israel and Hamas. So this is in fact 60 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 8: prolonging the suffering for the innocent Palestinians civilians who the 61 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 8: international community is of course deeply concerned about, and we 62 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 8: should be. But this does and help the situation on 63 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 8: the ground. All it does is send this strong signal 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 8: that if you want to get one of your objectives met, 65 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 8: whether that's a recognition of a state that's never existed, 66 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 8: all you have to do is massacre Jews. And it 67 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 8: sends a terrible signal to our ally that Israel as well, 68 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 8: which we've been increasingly hostile towards, and the Jewish Australian 69 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 8: community here, because in that recognition there is also an 70 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 8: implied demonization of Israel. But Israel is to blame for 71 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 8: the fact that there hasn't been peace, that there hasn't 72 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 8: been a recognition of a state. Completely ignored in the 73 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 8: press conference today was the fact that it has been 74 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 8: Palastinian leaders who have said no time and time again 75 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 8: to a state over seventy seven years because they don't 76 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 8: want to recognize Israel. Including the Palestinian authority. 77 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they only want one state, their fine state, the 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: terrorist state. 79 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: And that's a problem. 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: And I was absolutely baffled listening to the Prime Minister today. 81 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: Here he was trying to justify his decision. Have a listen. 82 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 6: Her Maus don't support two states. Her Maas support one state. 83 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: In their words, from the River to the Sea. He 84 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 6: mus do not support recognizing the right of Israel to exist. 85 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 6: This is an opportunity to isolate Hamas that has been 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 6: forged by the very clear statements of the Palestinian Authority 87 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 6: on June ten, and the very clear statements of the 88 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 6: Arab blog. 89 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Honestly, rock, I see the Prime Minister actually doesn't know 90 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: what he is saying here. The reality is is that Palestine. Firstly, 91 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: it's not even a state to begin with. But yes, 92 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: he's right, her Musk doesn't want a two state solution. 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: He mus wants its own state, it's its terror state, 94 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: and to wipe out Israel. But this just emboldens them, 95 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: this rewards them. 96 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 97 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: See, he doesn't seem to recognize the history of this 98 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: particular piece of real estate since nineteen forty eight. Carolyn 99 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: alluded to it earlier, Since nineteen forty eight. There've been 100 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: numerous attempts for a two state solution, which of course 101 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: is what everyone wants, Israel and Palestinians living together side 102 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: by side in peace and harmony. But most notably in 103 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, mamouda Bus's mentor yes Arafat actually rejected 104 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: a peace plan where he would have had East Jerusalem 105 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: as the capital of a Palestinian state. As we've seen 106 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: in the past, the Palestinians seem to never miss an opportunity, 107 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: to miss an opportunity to make a lasting peace. And 108 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: unfortunately our leaders here don't seem to understand that. 109 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: No, they don't, and once again we are alienating one 110 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: of our long standing allies. 111 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 5: I just don't know how we can come back. And 112 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: the end of the. 113 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 8: Day, the US is going to be told the decision anyway, 114 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 8: it has been our power, So it's virtue signaling. But 115 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 8: it's worse than that because it emboldens her mass if 116 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 8: being straight into their propaganda, and it further demonizes Israel. 117 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 118 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: If you're a Jewish Australian right now, you'd be thinking 119 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: here we go yet again, because what it does is 120 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: in boldens the scenes like we saw on the Sydney 121 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: hubor Bridge or at the steps of the Sydney Opera House. 122 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: And that is what people are. You know, this is 123 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: what it inboldens. It's a shocking. 124 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 9: Now. 125 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: Look, I want to ask you both about the sky 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: New special the War Cabinet. This evening, hosted by sky 127 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: New's political contributor Chris Yulman, the nation's foremost defense and 128 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: security experts have discussed the imminent threat of conflict involving Australia. 129 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: Peter Jennings from Strategic Analysis Australia said that Australia's military 130 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: is actually. 131 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: Less ready for war now than it was five years ago. 132 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: Have a listen. 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 10: I see a defense force which is actually less ready 134 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 10: for military operations than it was five, ten and fifteen 135 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 10: years ago. But I see an Australian population which is 136 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 10: completely untutored in terms of thinking about these issues. People 137 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 10: are not prepared and that's because our government is not 138 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 10: preparing them. 139 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: Well, Caroline, the warnings have been there for some time, 140 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: haven't they, That we are We're not prepared, We're not 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: ready for conflict. 142 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 8: And the concern coming out of this special tonight Delika 143 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 8: is defense experts are taking a telling Chris Ullman that 144 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 8: the threat is imminent, it will happen very soon, and 145 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 8: the threat is of course coming for China and the 146 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 8: flashpoint will be type one. Now we've been spending a 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 8: lot of time talking about this on programs here on 148 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 8: Sky News, but there it is from the experts themselves 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 8: that it is coming and a lot sooner than people thought, 150 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 8: and that the government has not been telling people how 151 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 8: big and how imminent a threat it really is. Now 152 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 8: the question is is Australia going to lift its defense spending. 153 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 8: We heard from the Pentagon in the US over the 154 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 8: weekend and yet another call and demand for Australia to 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 8: urgently lift it's spending to three point five percent of GDP. 156 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 8: So far, Albanezi has remained very stubborn on this point 157 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 8: and they won't lift it much above two percent. 158 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: That is not going to be. 159 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 8: Enough to fight off the threat. And I was hosting 160 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 8: a show last night on Sky and speaking to a 161 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 8: senior advisor fully and for a previous Prime minister, who 162 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 8: said he believes that the Albanizy is going to take 163 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 8: this as a negotiating tactic to Trump and say look, 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 8: we will lift spending but you have to commit to 165 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 8: orcus I'm nuclear deal with the US in the UK. 166 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 8: I'm not as confident as he is that this is 167 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 8: a negotiating tactic because they've. 168 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 5: Been so peak headed on it. 169 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 8: But I do hope he's right because we need it. 170 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 5: We absolutely do need it. 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: And just on that Rocko, you know, we're not lifting 172 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: our defense spending. As Caroline just mentioned, we've got China 173 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: on our doorstep, China spying on us. 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 5: We've got a recruitment. 175 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: Crisis already in the ADF and when you do sign up, 176 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 3: you're going to give what your pronouns are. So that's 177 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: a problem, you know, for the starters. But our enemies 178 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: right now would be laughing at us. 179 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, what's the old saying, if you want peacemake war, 180 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: And that's that's what's been guiding thinking on defense spending 181 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: definitely throughout history. And yes, like you say that the 182 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: drums of war are beating, and I can see this 183 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: eerily reflecting what was going on in nineteen in the 184 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: nineteen thirties, when the drums of war were beating and 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: the world wasn't prepared. Indeed, we wanted peace for our 186 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: time and In the end, we had to fight a long, 187 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: costly war of six years to defend that which we 188 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: hold here. And it looks like those who failed to 189 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: learn from history are deemed to repeat it. 190 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, and it's at our own peril yet again. 191 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: Now let's talk net zero. 192 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: Liberal front bencher Andrew Hasty, who will, no doubt, in 193 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: my mind, be a future Liberal Party leader. He's doubled 194 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: down on his opposition to net zero by twenty fifty. 195 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 5: Have a listen. 196 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 11: Of course, the climate change has been occurring throughout history. 197 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 11: The question is how much does Australia have a role 198 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 11: in changing the climate when we produce one point one 199 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 11: percent of the world's emissions. So the question is. 200 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 5: What should we do about it? 201 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 11: Should we transfer our heavy industry Australian jobs offshore. Should 202 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 11: we actually orchestrate a massive transfer of wealth our tax 203 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 11: system so that Australians are paying more for their power 204 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 11: And I think that's fundamentally unjust. 205 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: At the same time, conservative lobby group Advance has launched 206 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: a campaign targeting climate weeklings in the Liberal Party and 207 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: nationals who still support that target. Caroline, the warnings have 208 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: been there for a while. Australia will not reach net 209 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: zero twenty fifty on this renewables only magical carpet ride. 210 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: But of course there's moderates in the Liberal Party that 211 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: is the problem here. 212 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: They're holding up the process. 213 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: This review could take up to twelve months now, no 214 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: wonder they're being labeled weaklings. 215 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 5: Well they look to be fair. 216 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 8: I don't think there's a chance that the Liberals are 217 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 8: ever going to and the coalition is going to get 218 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 8: back in and the next election, so they probably do 219 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 8: have some time, but they don't have a chance at 220 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 8: the next election or any election if they refuse to 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 8: stand up for what their principles are as a party. 222 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 8: The Nationals of course have already said they don't back 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 8: net zero, but Seasonally wants more time to think about it. 224 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: Well, what do you stand for? 225 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 8: Are you going to be any different from labor who 226 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 8: got in obviously the landslide. But I don't think every 227 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 8: single person was thinking about the net zero target. They 228 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 8: were just concerned about their hip pocket and the cost 229 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 8: of living crisis. And people are going to discover more 230 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 8: and more that renewable energy is not the answer to 231 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 8: their solutions. They're going to look to Europe, where they've 232 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 8: been mass blackouts where there've been huge financial pressures on 233 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 8: people and economies, and they're going to see that we 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 8: are going further and further and further into the red 235 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 8: due to these crazy policies. 236 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: Absolutely we are, and it's obviously all the taxpayers expends 237 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: time and time again. Now, Roko, you've written about this 238 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: in The Spectator Australia and in it you talk about 239 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: all the domestic and international evidence that this net zero 240 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: policy isn't going to work. How long is it before 241 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: Susan Lee discovers America? As you put it so well 242 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: in your article. 243 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: Look, the rest of the world is running away from 244 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: ned zero fast than you can say. Turbine Denmark, which 245 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Chris Bowen loves to hold up as the dawing of 246 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: renewable energy. Their Energy minister came out a few weeks 247 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: ago and say, look, exactly, we cannot rely entirely on 248 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: solar and wind for electricity. There has to be something 249 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: to support it. And Tony Blair, the hero of the left, 250 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: actually called this out in a report from his think 251 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: tak and he said exactly, Look, people are realizing that 252 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: there is minimal change to the climate, yet they're being 253 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: asked to make huge sacrifices to their economy and standard 254 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: of living, particularly when China is building coal five power 255 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: stations at a record rate and twenty twenty four is 256 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,359 Speaker 2: the record. So why are we being asked to sacrifice 257 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: when the rest of the world isn't And I mean 258 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: over here in West Australia, we've just come out of 259 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: the coldest and weirdest July for sixteen years. So much 260 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: for global boiling. And on the twenty first of July 261 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: a emo's own figures at six thirty pm on that 262 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: day was a record demand for winter and guess how 263 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: much of that was produced by solar wind and batteries 264 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: net zero. So this is not working at all. There's 265 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: ample evidence now to support it. And one other thing. 266 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: The Coalition in twenty nineteen into the Australian people, are 267 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: you against net zero policies and won an election. I 268 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: can't understand why they think following along net zero is 269 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: going to win them an election, particularly when in twenty 270 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: twenty two when that position was reversed the Coalition lost. 271 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 8: Well, they're scared of the tials in the inner city steeds, 272 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 8: that's clear, but it can happen. We've seen Tim Wilson 273 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 8: take back a seat. 274 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: Sure he's not exactly. 275 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 8: Out advocating against net zero, but it is possible to 276 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 8: win those seats back, and you don't have to be 277 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 8: a complete wet blanket in order to do so. No, 278 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 8: but you know, I think this Advanced Australia campaign that 279 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 8: you mentioned that's going to cause some serious damage for 280 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 8: the party. Let's not forget this is the group that 281 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 8: helped campaign against the Boys and ran a very success 282 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 8: very campaign against it. So I think the Liberals are 283 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 8: going to have to get fearless about this. 284 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Rocco and the other thing there. 285 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we're seeing state governments in New South Wales 286 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: last week in Victoria the week before, passing legislation to 287 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: override private property rights to in and overtake land to 288 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: build the electricity line transmission lines. So it's dividing, it's 289 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: dividing people across the country. 290 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 291 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 12: Yeah. 292 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: And if you don't, if you don't let these transmission 293 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: workers onto your property, congratulations, here is a twelve thousand 294 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: dollar fine. Seriously, it's just where we've gone to in 295 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: this country. Caroline Marcus and Roppo Lawyer Kono, thank you 296 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: so much for joining me on the show this evening. 297 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: Joining me now is esteemed geologist and author Professor Ian Plymer. 298 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: Good to catch up with you again, Ian, Thanks for 299 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: your time. Let's start with the most dangerous minister, if 300 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: I may say so, in Anthony Albanese's cabinet, Chris Bowen, 301 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: who's at it again, peddling more lies. 302 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: And absolute climate nonsense. Have a listen to this. 303 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 13: At the last election, the Liberals and Nationals told Australia 304 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 13: that nuclear was the way to deal with climate change, 305 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 13: their plan having been so comprehensively rejected by the Australian people, 306 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 13: now they're walking away from climate action all together. 307 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 14: Now to justify this, they're telling us that Australia is 308 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 14: doing more than the rest of the world. 309 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 5: So let's quickly go through a few facts. 310 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 14: Last year, ninety two point five percent of all new 311 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 14: electricity in the world was renewable. So to say the 312 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 14: rest of the world isn't doing anything is a lie. 313 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: At two right now, eighty four percent of the world's. 314 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 14: GDP is covered by zero commitments. And third, just recently, 315 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 14: for example, renewables overtook coal as the larger source of 316 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 14: electricity for India. 317 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: Dear Oh, dear Minister, coal actually generates over seventy four 318 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: percent of India's electricity, and renewable energy accounts for more 319 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: than thirty percent of the world's electricity. So Ian, this 320 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: guy's got no idea what he is on about. 321 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Well, he knows exactly what he's doing. 322 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 15: He's trying to persuade the Australian public to pay a 323 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 15: hell of a lot more money for unreliable power, following 324 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 15: his ideological dreams. We once had cheap, reliable electricity that 325 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 15: came from coal. We once had a scheme whereby we 326 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 15: would have put in a nuclear power station that was 327 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 15: killed off in the early seventies. We could have had very, 328 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 15: very cheap power and with that a manufacturing industry. This 329 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 15: man has no idea. He's just peddling a propaganda and 330 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 15: he wants us to believe it and pay for it. 331 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 15: The answer is no, We've had enough. 332 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we are running on a women a prayer, on 333 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: this magical carpet ride renewables only fantasy, and it's sending 334 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: us broken backwards in this country. Now, look, the free 335 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: ride for electric vehicle users is about to come to 336 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: an end. Jim Chalmers is working on a road user 337 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: charge for evs. 338 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: Under tax reform plans. 339 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 3: And another reason why you might want to think about 340 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: twice about buying one of Bowen's EV's. 341 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, i'm here out back. 342 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 15: It would have taken me three days to drive in 343 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 15: an EV, and I can do it in less. 344 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: Than a day in a conventional vehicle. 345 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 15: The second thing is that I can fill up that 346 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 15: conventional vehicle at half a dozen places. At the nearest 347 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 15: I'm at a place called sakar Ringo. The nearest town's 348 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 15: about thirty k's away. Now, you can't charge up an 349 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 15: electric vehicle here. They just don't get here. So the 350 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 15: bulk of people living in out back Australia have absolutely 351 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 15: no use for an expensive electric vehicle, and they, of course, 352 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 15: being much heavier than a conventional car, bash around the roads. 353 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: The roads are already in very poor shape. 354 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 15: The infrastructure and this country is approaching that of a 355 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 15: third world country, and an EV will only make it worse. 356 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 15: So I can't see any reason why you'd want to 357 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 15: have an EV. And if you do have an EV, 358 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 15: then you should. 359 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: Be charged the same as other motorists. 360 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 15: And when we pay for car registration, we pay for 361 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 15: the damage we give to the roads, as do heavy vehicles. 362 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 15: So I can't see why they are very very precious 363 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 15: and special. But they have been treated as a special species. 364 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 15: They have been treated as blessed by God. Therefore they 365 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 15: could do anything, whereas we who prefer an internal combustion 366 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 15: engine have to pay and keep paying. 367 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: No, I agree, I totally agree with you. I think 368 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: it's about time to be honest. But you're right, they've 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: been treated as some sort of protected and special species. 370 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 5: Well the time is up now. 371 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 9: Look. 372 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: A regional New South Wales farmer has raised concerns that 373 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: the government is leaving communities in the dust in order 374 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: to roll out renewables. Emma Bowman from Dunny do As 375 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 3: told stein Us that regional communities have been steamrolled amid 376 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: this rapid renewable energy transition, but even more since the 377 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: New South Wales Parliament voted through a net zero bill 378 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: last week which would expand the Energy Minister's ability to. 379 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: Fast track these projects. Ian. 380 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: Look, it really is the regions that are suffering under 381 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: this net zero fantasy, isn't it. 382 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Well this is incredibly dangerous. 383 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 15: We have these zero zest which the governments wanted to 384 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 15: push and so they have allowed wind companies to use 385 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 15: certain chemicals which are absolutely totally banned by any other industry, 386 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 15: some of these chemicals which stain the soil and the 387 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 15: waterways forever. 388 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Now wind companies have exemptions from that. 389 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 15: A normal farmer or a factory or a mine doesn't 390 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 15: have exemptions. 391 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: So why are they're so special? 392 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 15: And if you build a wind turbine, you leave a 393 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 15: massive concrete behind, you leave a massive steel behind. But 394 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 15: if you build a mine, you actually have to clean 395 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 15: that up afterwards. So they are again a protected special species. 396 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: They can do anything. They can just bulldoze over farmers. 397 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 15: They can destroy perfectly good farmland, and that is for 398 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 15: the sake of saving the environment. 399 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: So they're actually destroying the. 400 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 15: Environment to save the environment, leaving chemicals permanently there, leaving 401 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 15: infrastructure permanently there. Yet people in the cities don't see 402 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 15: it and they don't care. And this is city driven 403 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 15: politics aimed at making farming even more difficult. Now the 404 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 15: farmers have got to battle the weather. Now they have 405 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 15: to battle people with clipboards saying well, you're going to 406 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 15: have this number of panels across your wheat field, You're 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 15: going to have this number of turbines you are going 408 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 15: to have chemicals that are going to destroy your land forever. Now, 409 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 15: I think it's time for the farmers really to kick 410 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 15: up with us, because enough is enough. They are just 411 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 15: being bulldozed by these ideological interests driven from cities. 412 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: I completely agree with you. 413 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: As you mentioned the chemicals, these transmission lines, these wind turbines, 414 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: I mean there's some of it in regional New South 415 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: Wales that are slated for two hundred and sixty meters. 416 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: I mean the absolute monstrosities. So no, you're right, it's 417 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: inner city politics. It's just shocking and plymate, nice to 418 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: catch up with you. Thanks so much for joining me 419 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: on the show this evening. Still to come left he 420 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: is losing it. Plus, US Vice President JD. Vance attends 421 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: an emergency peace summit with European and Ukrainian leaders ahead 422 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: of Donald Trump's on one with Vladimir Putin. 423 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: John Heindereker will join me for the latest. Well, now it's. 424 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: Time for lefties losing it at a big thank you America. 425 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: You got rid of Rosy O'Donnell. And guess where she's 426 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: coming next. She's coming here right here to Australia to 427 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: grace us with her presence bringing her comedy show down 428 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: under allegedly, and how is this for a cell? She's 429 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: told And I was in newspaper all about a sad, 430 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: acute and chronic case of Trump derangement syndrome, saying my 431 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: escaping was self preservation. It wasn't only a fear of 432 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: or him. It was a fear of what I knew 433 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: it would do to me to watch my country be 434 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: pulled apart by a mentally ill man who only serves himself. Wow, Rosie, 435 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: really selling your show there? 436 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: We'll roll up, roll up? Where can I get a ticket? 437 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: And if the TDS didn't get you over the line, 438 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: this will please. 439 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: Pay attention everyone. Black out the system. 440 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 12: Black out the system. 441 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: Rosie, do us a favor and black us out of 442 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: your tour stay in island. 443 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 5: Please, we are begging you. Please. Now. This next clip 444 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 5: comes with a trigger warning. 445 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: Singer Lizzo has been triggered yet again by Sydney's ad 446 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: for American Eagle. 447 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: No kissy. 448 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 16: Beer with me a pretty face with the titty bitch. 449 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: I got the jeez like. 450 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm Sydney, and don't say I didn't warn you. I 451 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: gave you a trigger warning, and that is way too 452 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: much of Lizzo's rear end for any of us to handle. Meanwhile, 453 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 3: the always pleasant Australian influencer Abby Chatfield is having another 454 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: meltdown of bombastic proportions and I saw it comment. 455 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 5: Saying well, if it was any other skin. 456 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 16: Tone or eye color, it'd be okay, yes, yes, that's 457 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 16: what a dog whistle is. Yes, you're upstanding it. 458 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 17: See. 459 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 16: The issue with his MAGA supporters is I go. 460 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you want You're almost there, You're so close to 461 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: being there. 462 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 16: Yes, if it was someone with any other skin tone 463 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 16: or possibly eye color, it would be less scary and 464 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 16: less of a dog whistle because the reason why it's 465 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 16: a dog whistle is because contextually we have back to 466 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 16: nineteen thirties and forties. 467 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 5: Germany, Abby Love. 468 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: It's really not that deep. Okay, you're almost there, almost 469 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: there yourself. It's an ad for Jens. Please let it rest, 470 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: let it go. And now from one d Lulu to another. 471 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: Talk show host Jimmy Kimmel, bringing with some sort of 472 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: Holier than Thou complex. 473 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: Has claimed with a straight face that repulsive voices on 474 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 5: the left are driving people away from the Democratic Party. 475 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 18: It's the loud voices that scare people from saying what 476 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 18: they believe and make you think twice about a joke 477 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 18: or whatever. You know, these things, and you know a 478 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 18: lot of their points are valid, but a lot of 479 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 18: them are also just repulsive, And I mean they were 480 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 18: in that they repel people from They go like, oh, 481 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 18: you're no fun. 482 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be around you. 483 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 18: And I think that if you had to boil it 484 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 18: down on like one thing, that's kind of what it is. 485 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: Well, look, he's not wrong, is he? 486 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: But this is just incredible a stunning turnaround, stunning turn 487 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: and events, especially given that this was Kimmel on the 488 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: day Trump was re elected. 489 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 19: Let's be honest, it was a terrible night last night. 490 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 19: It was a terrible night for women, for children, for 491 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 19: the hundreds of thousands of hard working immigrants who make 492 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 19: this country go for healthcare, for our climate, for science 493 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 19: or journalism, for. 494 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Justice or police. 495 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 19: It was a terrible night for poor people, for the 496 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 19: middle class, for seniors who rely on social security, for 497 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 19: our allies in Ukraine, for needle or Richard. 498 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: I mean, the man was practically bawling his eyes out. 499 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: But here was a real pearler, Jimmy Kimmel and Sarah 500 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: Silverman then decided to go together in a little Kumbai 501 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: TTS session and said that Dems are elitist. 502 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: I'm I mean the left. I'm on the left though. 503 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 18: It was very you know, but like I find in general, 504 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 18: the party that is about inclusivity is incredibly elitist. 505 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: Just say join us, yes, come join us. 506 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: Yes again, not wrong, but two multi millionaire woke lefties 507 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: dishing out on the elite the irony. Now, why can't 508 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: the left laugh and take a joke, Like, are they okay? 509 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 5: They're just so serious all the time. It's it's very 510 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: very sad, very tragic. 511 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump Junior posted this meme of his father tossing 512 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: a sex toy from the White House roof onto it 513 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: w NBA court. 514 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 5: It's a joke, it's a meme. 515 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: Yet right on, que CNN went into obliteration mode. 516 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 20: Donald Trump Junior posted to Instagram did you see this 517 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 20: with the President? I mean, obviously it's mean, but it's 518 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 20: the president throwing one off the White House roof there 519 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 20: under the WNBA. 520 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 8: Well, that says everything we need to know about Donald 521 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 8: Trump Junior. 522 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 5: What is fifty? So what is Donald Trump? Donald Trump Junior? 523 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, fifty two, whatever, how old he is. 524 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 20: Timerman is. 525 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 5: Acheme from president that's going on the roof, I mean 526 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 5: their faces. 527 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: One would think someone has died for goodness sake, prompting 528 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: this response from Donald Trump Junior saying, what is it 529 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: about memes that always triggers these losers? That's CNN so badly. 530 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: Now here is. 531 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: One way to ensure you are unemployable after graduating. Turn 532 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: your valedictorian speech into an embarrassing clown show. 533 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: Excuse my language, But to that, I say, Ice and 534 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: the Trump administration. 535 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 5: So brave, so so incredible. 536 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: And here is how you know Trump's Ice operation is 537 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: in fact working so well. 538 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: Illegals are self deporting. 539 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 21: Well, I've made up my mind. I will be turning 540 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 21: in my darka and returning to Mexico. We came to 541 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 21: America January fifteenth, nineteen ninety six, so almost thirty years 542 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 21: I was a baby, so I have no memories of Mexico. 543 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 21: But I think it's time for me to go back now. 544 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 21: There is a lot of fears and wonderings and what ifs, 545 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 21: but I do not want to be captive to this 546 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 21: country anymore. 547 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: Okay, childbye? 548 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the breathtakingly incompetent Mayor of La Karen Bass, is 549 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: now claiming. 550 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: Ice arrests are destabilizing the city. 551 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: That just doesn't destabilize a family, that destabilizes the destabilized. 552 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 8: This businesses, it destabilizes the community. 553 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 16: But we are not going to allow this administration to 554 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 16: destabilize our great city. 555 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: No, she's never been a bright spot that Karen has 556 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: she and after the sad lives of those suffering with 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: incurable Trump derangement syndrome, please spare a thought for this snowflake. 558 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 9: Ever since Trump became president, I'm so used to bad news. Yesterday, 559 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 9: me and my coworkers were watching the gorgeous sunset and 560 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 9: this one guy goes, you know, next year, we're not 561 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 9: gonna be able to see the sunset, and I literally automatically, 562 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 9: I'm just like, great, the atmosphere is gonna combust and 563 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 9: you know, it's gonna be total darkness and there's gonna 564 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 9: be no more sunset. Sunsets have been abolished. But I 565 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 9: just go, why won't be able to see the sunset? 566 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 9: And he's like, because they're building a building right there 567 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 9: that and I'm like, okay. 568 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: Well that's okay, because this liberal can maybe help her out. 569 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 9: I think that the best way and the only way 570 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 9: from your survive the next three and a half years 571 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 9: is to make sure that my doctor keeps Prescriving. 572 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 20: Might come as again, I'm a. 573 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 5: N stay and Jay. 574 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: It's just so bad out there. This grandma is gurdening 575 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: her loins. 576 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: You know what, Kamala was right. We all knew she 577 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: was right. What this regime is doing in Washington just 578 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: seems like all we can do right now is don't 579 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: give up. 580 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 5: But we have to wait it out. I don't know 581 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 5: what else to say. 582 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 4: I mean, is everybody going to just go to the 583 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: streets and fight everybody that's coming, And you should be 584 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: scared of that. 585 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: Yes, we ride at door and get your nun shucks out. 586 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 5: Yes, steel cap boots. 587 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: Although Grandma, I just I couldn't quite hear you with 588 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: CNN blasting in the background. 589 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 5: Could you turn it up a little louder please? Well, 590 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 5: now to the war in Ukraine. 591 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: US Vice President jd Vance has attended an emergency peace 592 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: summit with European and Ukrainian leaders. 593 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: Ahead of Donald Trump's one on one with Vladimir Putin. 594 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 5: Here's what he had to say. After the meeting, you. 595 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 22: Should be willing to play a more direct and a 596 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 22: more substantial way in funding this war yourself. I think 597 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 22: the President and I certainly think that America, we're done 598 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 22: with the funding of the Ukraine war business. We want 599 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 22: to bring about a peaceful settlement to this thing. We 600 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 22: want to stop the killing. But Americans, I think, are 601 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 22: sick of continuing to send their money, their talk dollars 602 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 22: to this particular conflict. But if the Europeans want to 603 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 22: step up and actually buy the weapons from American producers, 604 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 22: we're okay with that, But we're not going to fund 605 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 22: ourselves anymore. 606 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: Now. 607 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: It comes after seven major European leaders issued a joint 608 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: statement the head of the summit saying the path to 609 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: peace in Ukraine cannot be decided without Ukraine joining me. 610 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: Now for more on this is President of the Center 611 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: of the American Experiment, John Hindereka. 612 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for joining me. 613 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: Look, the US has made it very very clear it 614 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: is done with helping to fund Ukraine. Europe, though, is 615 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: expressing concern already. They want iron cloud security assurances. 616 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 5: Will they get it? How do you see this playing out? 617 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 17: Well? First of all, the Trump administration has been clear 618 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 17: all along that Russia is fundamentally a European problem and 619 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 17: the Europeans should be taking the lead in responding to 620 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 17: and deterring Russian aggression. Donald Trump's position is really very simple. 621 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 17: This war has been going on for three and a 622 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 17: half years. There have been over a million casualties. The 623 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 17: Europeans are always cheering on the Ukrainians and saying, you know, 624 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 17: go to it, you don't keep the war going. And 625 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 17: Trump really would like to bring peace to that region. 626 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 17: And whether he's going to be able to do that, 627 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 17: I don't know. I think it depends on whether Ukraine, 628 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 17: at the end of the day is willing to make 629 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 17: some concessions so that Russia isn't just walking away empty 630 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 17: handed after all of these years, So. 631 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: You think that Ukraine is going to have to make 632 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: some concessions. I mean the other thing is is can 633 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: we really trust Russia as well? 634 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: Well? 635 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 17: Of course we can't trust Russia. Nobody trusts Russia. But nevertheless, 636 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 17: they are war weary. They have got to want this 637 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 17: thing to come to an end. But they have to 638 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 17: get something. You know, some years ago Russia marched in 639 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 17: and seized Crimea and they've held on to Crimea. Nobody's 640 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 17: talking about Russia giving Crimea back. And I think the 641 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 17: path to peace here probably lies in a ceasefire line 642 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 17: and ultimately align basically corresponding to where the armies are, 643 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 17: which is what usually had happens, and that means that 644 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 17: Russia would gain a little bit of Russian speaking territory 645 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 17: there in eastern Ukraine. If Ukraine is not willing to 646 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 17: agree to that, it's very hard to see how this 647 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 17: war ends. 648 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, Look, I think the world's going to be 649 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: watching with beta breath to see what happens here, because 650 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: it's been certainly a very long war. 651 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 7: Now. 652 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Donald Trump has hosted the leaders of sworn enemies 653 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: Armenia and Azerbaijan, two former Soviet states of course, for 654 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: an official peace signing ceremony. 655 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 5: At the White House. 656 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: I've got to say it was quite an extraordinary site, 657 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: seeing these two countries after all these years come together. 658 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: John. 659 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 5: There's speculation that this is all part of a push. 660 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 3: For Donald Trump to get that Nobel Peace Prize. He's 661 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: pulled this summit off. If he then pulls off Russia 662 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: and Ukraine, should he get it? 663 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 17: Well, if he does that he should get it, whether 664 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 17: he will as another matter of course, but this conflict 665 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 17: between Armenia and Yazerbijan goes back to the nineteen eighties, 666 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 17: and it seems as if the Trump administration has come 667 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 17: up with a creative solution. We'll see if it works, 668 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 17: but it's focused on a transportation corridor that would be 669 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 17: shared by these two countries. It would be a new 670 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 17: trade route between Asia and Europe, and it could result 671 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 17: in tens of billions of dollars in economic development for 672 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 17: both of these countries. And it also could result in 673 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 17: American influence in that region replacing Russian and Iranian influence. 674 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 17: So it's got the potential to be a win win 675 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 17: all the way around, and we'll have to see how 676 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 17: it develops. 677 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely, I mean as he said, I feel 678 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: like if he does Russia and Ukraine, surely you've got 679 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 3: to give this man the Nobel Peace Prize. 680 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 5: He's done one, let's see what else he can do. Now, 681 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 5: this is quite fascinating. 682 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has avowed to immediately force all homeless people 683 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 3: out of Washington, DC to an undisclosed place far away. 684 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: He's taken to truth social posting quote, I'm going to 685 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 3: make our capital safer and more beautiful than it ever 686 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: was before. We want our capital back. Look, John, I'm 687 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: very curious to know how he plans to do this. 688 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 3: He's also spoken not just of the homeless, but also 689 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: of criminals. I mean, he's spoken about criminals for many, 690 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: many months now. But will it be easiest said than 691 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: done in your view, to actually move the homeless out of. 692 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 5: Washington d C? 693 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 17: Deniki, it can be done. Why DC has been to 694 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 17: Disgreece for a long time. It's got the fourth highest 695 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 17: murder rate of any American city. There are thousands of 696 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 17: homeless people. If you go around American cities, there are 697 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 17: some where are stepping over homeless people on the street. 698 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 17: There are others where there are no homeless people in 699 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 17: safe We don't have to have this plague all over 700 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 17: our urban areas, and that's a matter of local law enforcement. 701 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 17: So Trump is going to do a press reference tomorrow 702 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 17: he'll announce more specific plans. The mayor of d C, 703 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 17: Muriel Bowser, says she's going to cooperate in Trump's efforts here. 704 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 17: So I am hopeful that he's going to be able 705 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 17: to clean up Washington, d C. And make it a 706 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 17: capital that the American people can be proud of. 707 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, look fair enough, and good on him for trying 708 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 5: to do something about it. We'll be watching that closely now. 709 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 3: Bernie said Is has slammed former Vice President Kamala Harris's 710 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four presidential campaign, accusing it of being heavily 711 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: influenced by wealthy people. 712 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 5: J who would have thought. Here's what he had to say. 713 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 19: One of the reasons, in my view that Kamala Harris 714 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 19: lost the selection is she had too many billionaires telling 715 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 19: God not to speak. 716 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 7: Up for the working class of this country. 717 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: Well, no, I think, I mean, I don't think that 718 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: that's I like Kumla. 719 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 7: She's a friendly line, but she was Her core consultants, 720 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 7: you know, were heavily influenced by very wealthy people. 721 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: And I think Bernie Sanders is absolutely spot on. She 722 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: had all these wealthy mouthpieces. Remember the actors like George Clooney, 723 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: singer Beyonce. None of these people represented Middle America. 724 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 17: Well here's the problem, Denika. The Democrats are the party 725 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 17: of the wealthy. It's not just Kamala Harris. And by 726 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 17: the way, Bertie Sanders himself is wealthy. The best demographic 727 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 17: the voters have that the Democrats have in terms of 728 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 17: voting is people with incomes over two hundred thousand dollars 729 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 17: a year. They're always denouncing billionaires, but the reality is 730 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 17: that most billionaires who are at all active in politics 731 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 17: are on the side of the Democrats. It is the 732 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 17: Republicans who are now the party of the working class. 733 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 17: The Republicans have figured that out and they're proud of 734 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 17: but the Democrats really have yet come to grips with it, 735 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 17: and they don't really have a good way to talk 736 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 17: about it. 737 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 3: No, clearly, But you're right about Bertie's But for once 738 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: I actually agree with him. 739 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 5: He's not wrong. I feel like what he just said. 740 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: Now, look the Global Government Surplus auction House. This was 741 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: commissioned by the Biden administration to sell three hundred and 742 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: fifty million US dollars in unused components of Donald Trump's 743 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: border wall. It's now claiming that it plans to coordinate 744 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: with Trump to return some of those materials back to 745 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 3: the federal government. 746 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 5: John makes sense of this for us, How do you 747 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 5: think this would work? And is it a good thing? 748 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 17: Well, what's going on, Herdinika is that Trump was building 749 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 17: this water wall between the US and Mexico. And when 750 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 17: Joe Biden came in in twenty twenty one, one of 751 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 17: the first things he did was to stop construction of 752 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 17: the wall. And at that time, the federal government had 753 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 17: bought something in the vicinity of three hundred million dollars 754 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 17: worth of materials that had not yet been installed, that 755 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 17: were awaiting construction, and there was materials started getting auctioned 756 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 17: off a pennies on the d It was kind of 757 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 17: a scandal. So Trump is now trying to get those 758 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 17: materials back and this big e auction house has said 759 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 17: that they are going to sell the materials back to 760 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 17: the federal government at cost, and so that's better than 761 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 17: what was happening before. But I think this significant thing 762 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 17: is that construction on that border wall is once again underway. 763 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, it's about time. 764 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it was obviously a key election promise, so 765 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: no doubt I'm sure Trump would want to get that 766 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 3: back up and running now. Jd Vance, he's been overseas 767 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 3: saying that he does not want the UK to go 768 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: down what he calls the very dark path to losing 769 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 3: free speech. 770 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 5: Here, he was speaking at a meeting with Britain's Foreign secretary. 771 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 22: Well, I'd say I raised concerns about free speech in 772 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 22: the United States of America. I think the entire collective West, 773 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 22: the Transatlantic relationship. 774 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 11: Our NATO allies. 775 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 22: Certainly the United States under the Biden administration got a 776 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 22: little too comfortable with censoring rather and engaging with a 777 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 22: diverse ray of opinions. 778 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 17: John is he right, Well, he is right to dec 779 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 17: he's been kind of diplomatic there. Honestly, He's talked about 780 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 17: this before. The reality is that the United Kingdom and 781 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 17: a number of other European countries embarked on immigration policies 782 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 17: that turned out to be disastrous and people don't like them. 783 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 17: And in the UK in particular, instead of facing up 784 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 17: to the fact that these policies have failed and tried 785 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 17: to do something about it, the government instead is trying 786 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 17: to suppress criticism from people who don't like what's happened. 787 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 17: And so in the UK now you can have your 788 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 17: doorbell rung and it's a couple of police officers who 789 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 17: don't like something that you tweeted. And we've had a 790 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 17: number of people in the UK actually imprisoned for saying 791 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 17: things that clearly would be constitutionally protected speech here in 792 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 17: the United States, and so there is a real issue 793 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 17: of free speech. I think it's true across a good 794 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 17: part of Europe, and it certainly is true in the 795 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 17: United Kingdom. 796 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the UK is absolutely stuffed. Right now, 797 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 5: Before I let you go, John, I want to ask you. 798 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 5: I mean, we've had JD. 799 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: Vance basically telling the UK off in front of the 800 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 3: Foreign Secretary over there. 801 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago. 802 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump was in the UK saying pretty much the 803 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 3: exact same thing to the UK Prime Minister. What do 804 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: you make of this technique the White House is using, 805 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: going to these countries and just telling it like it is. 806 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 17: Well, Donald Trump says already thinks. You don't have to 807 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 17: sit there and speculate about what Donald Trump thinks about something. 808 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 17: He'll tell you and to be honest, Anika, I think 809 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 17: these are conversations we need to have. I think that 810 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 17: the Europeans needed to be told that they should step 811 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 17: up and play their part in needle. They needed to contribute, 812 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 17: and they weren't doing it. They don't agree with that, 813 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 17: and I think that similarly, it's a good thing for 814 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 17: Trump and Vance to say, look, we in the West 815 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 17: have for hundreds of years committed to free speech. It's 816 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 17: sort of the foundation of democracy, and we're seeing it 817 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 17: start to slip away. I think it's good that they 818 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 17: are pointing these things out. 819 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 5: I completely agree. 820 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: It's good that they're saying it like it is, and 821 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 3: it makes for some good television as well. I've got 822 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 3: to say, John Heindereker, nice to chat with you. Thanks 823 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 3: very much for joining us on the show this evening 824 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 3: still to come. Meghan Markle reportedly ridiculed by friends of 825 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 3: Prince William and Princess Kate over that horrendous lifestyle brand 826 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 3: as Ever. 827 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 5: Kinsey Schofield will join me next. Welcome back. 828 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 3: Joining me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. 829 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 5: Kinsey, good to see you. 830 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: Let's start with the friends of Prince William and Kate 831 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 3: Middleton who are reportedly or have been ridiculing Meghan mark 832 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 3: and after mark All after she rebranded her lifestyle store 833 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 3: to as Ever back in February. One friend said quote, 834 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 3: It's caused quite a bit of laughter within the group. 835 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 3: WhatsApp messages have been going back and forth. It's all 836 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 3: very budget and rushed, embarrassing. Really well, kinsy. They're not wrong, 837 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 3: let's be honest. 838 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 5: But they've also given the brand a nickname. 839 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 12: Yes, I've worn my blazer in honor of that nickname, 840 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 12: as if very a very clueless themed nickname, as if 841 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 12: as if this brand will ever take off. This is 842 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 12: according to Bella magazine, And I mean this is some 843 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 12: of the commentary we've seen online too, So it wouldn't 844 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 12: surprise me if this were true. I think that the 845 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 12: idea of it being very budget and rushed is a 846 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 12: conversation I've had a lot lately. I spoke to the 847 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 12: author Tom Bauer, who wrote Revenge about Harry and Meghan, 848 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 12: an incredible book, and he said investors are hesitant to 849 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 12: work with Meghan because everything looks so messy, chaotic and rushed, 850 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 12: and so I labels peeling off when they talk about budget, 851 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 12: the packaging within itself, people are critical of it. You know, 852 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 12: this is supposed to be some limited edition keepsake, but 853 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 12: it's just, you know, something that in moisture is going 854 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 12: to fall to pieces. So is this story true or not? 855 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,439 Speaker 12: I'd predict that it's likely pretty true. 856 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me either. But you look fabulous in 857 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 3: that blazer. I mustad so while it goes with the theme, 858 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 3: it looks great. 859 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 5: Now. 860 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: Look, the Daily Mail has revealed that Prince Harry is 861 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 3: planning to get back at the boardroom rival who accused 862 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 3: him of bullying at Senator Bail by launching a new 863 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 3: African children's charity. Kinsey tell us more, it sounds like 864 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: this is some sort of random revenge mission. 865 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 5: So this is reacting. 866 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 12: This is his reaction to losing Ceneballe, and this is 867 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 12: his fight with doctor Sophi Shandaka. And there are reports 868 00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 12: that potentially he could create a new rival charity because 869 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 12: he's so frustrated over losing Cinebale. We know that he's 870 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 12: the co founder of this charity with Prince Ciso of Lesutu. 871 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 12: The objective of this charity is helping children with HIV 872 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 12: and AIDS, or that have been affected with their families 873 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 12: in some way, shape or form. 874 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 5: With HIV AIDS. 875 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 12: I think it would be easier for him to get 876 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 12: involved in existing charities and maybe build that way, versus 877 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 12: launching an entirely new charity that would compete with this 878 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 12: former charity of his that he stepped down from. I 879 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 12: think that that would be the best way to go. However, 880 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 12: doctor Sophie Shandaka said throughout multiple press interviews his brand 881 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 12: is toxic. So I wonder if he'll struggle to find 882 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 12: another charity that's eager to work with him in that area. 883 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, very curious. Sad to see how that one goes. 884 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 3: Now, former co host of The View rosio' donald, still 885 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 3: suffering with Trump derangement syndrome after all these years, had 886 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: said that she thinks that the daytime opinion program could 887 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: soon be taken off the by the ABC in the US, 888 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 3: and Kinsey, of course she's blaming Trump. 889 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 5: I know, right. 890 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 12: So this is a reaction to a new study from 891 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 12: the Media Research Center that claims so far this year, 892 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 12: the View only hosted one hundred and No, they actually 893 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 12: hosted one hundred and two guests with liberal leanings and 894 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 12: zero absolutely zero conservatives, but only counting those who discuss 895 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 12: politics throughout their sit down. And Rosie says that the 896 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 12: show isn't biased at all, and she's arguing that this 897 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 12: review is actually code for an attempt to cancel the 898 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 12: show altogether. So she is trying to warn people that 899 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 12: this is coming based on this unfair representation that The 900 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 12: View never really hosts conservatives. 901 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,959 Speaker 5: But you know as well as I do that they don't. 902 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 12: They don't host conservatives, and if you do get a 903 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 12: random conservative on there, they tear that person to pieces. 904 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do, and they're basically a mouthpiece for the Democrats. 905 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 3: I know what she's told me about. Seriously, now, Britney 906 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 3: Spie is his ex. Kevin Fedaline is dropping a tell all, 907 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: which he promises will be extremely intimate and transparent. What 908 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: sort of a reaction are you expecting, Kinsey? 909 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 5: What will we hear about? Do you think this is 910 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 5: so shameless? 911 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 12: This is as low as you can go. It's his 912 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 12: only option after a failed dancing and rapping career that 913 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 12: I'm sure he would love for us to forget. And 914 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 12: he's run out of child support money. I mean, his 915 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 12: kid's eighteen and nineteen years old. Do you remember how 916 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 12: much that monthly child support check was? He was rolling 917 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 12: in the dough. But he says, of this book, I 918 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 12: achieved my biggest dreams, dealt with crushing heartbreak, and endured 919 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 12: constant ridicule, all while becoming the father my children needed 920 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 12: as they experienced NonStop emotional turbulence. Kevin, you were ridiculed 921 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 12: because you left your pregnant girlfriend, Shar Jackson for Britney Spears. 922 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 12: Shar was pregnant with their second child. I feel like 923 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 12: there was a little bit of justification in our judgment. 924 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, very clear. 925 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 3: Before we let you go, Kinsey, Conspiracy theories are emerging 926 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 3: about the real reason Leonardo DiCaprio always covers his face. 927 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 5: Out in public. 928 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: Why. 929 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, they're saying, could it be plastic surgery? Did he 930 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 12: get a bad facelift? Some immer saying it's not really him, 931 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 12: it's his double ganger. I think that there are so 932 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,439 Speaker 12: few celebrities, like real, real, big A list celebrities left 933 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 12: in the world, and this is his way of trying 934 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 12: to continue to maintain that, you know, that air about him, 935 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,479 Speaker 12: that he's an A list movie star. 936 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's got the money, so if he 937 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 3: was having a facelift, it would not surprise me. 938 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 5: But yep, there you go. Fascinating the world of conspiracy theories. 939 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: Kinsey'schofield, good to catch up, Thanks for your time. 940 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 5: Well that is it for me. Up next to news Night, 941 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 5: Good Night.