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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the

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Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring, and today I'm

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Speaker 1: recording on gaddigel Land. Now I somehow manage to build

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Speaker 1: an empire from the garage underneath my house, and I'm

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Speaker 1: here to share it all with you, from the wins,

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Speaker 1: the mistakes, the challenging times and the funny moments in between. So,

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Speaker 1: whether you're in business already, perhaps you're not in the

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Speaker 1: game at all, Maybe you're just looking for some inspo,

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Speaker 1: or you simply just want to hear the tea, this

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Speaker 1: is the podcast for you. Coming up on today's episode.

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled to welcome and I feel like this

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Speaker 1: is long overdue. Steph Pace to Big Business today. She's

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, an author, a content creator, a mum of two,

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Speaker 1: and the powerhouse behind the stationary and lifestyle brand Steph

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Speaker 1: Pace Planners, with a wildly successful online community of over

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Speaker 1: one million followers. Steph has made a name for herself

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Speaker 1: by embracing the chaos of real life and helping others

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Speaker 1: reclaim control, one planner and habit tracker at a time.

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Speaker 1: Staf Pace Welcome to Big Business.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so excited to finally be here.

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Speaker 1: I know about time, I was like, this is well

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Speaker 1: long overdue, because didn't you come on my old podcast?

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Speaker 1: But I did.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you if you remembered that

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Speaker 2: was like zoom all yeah.

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Speaker 1: This was like before Lockdown. It was yeah bs, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of BS. That's a good name. Before

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Speaker 1: this podcast, I used to have my own podcast, like

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Speaker 1: a in Lockdown kind of thing. I feel like everyone

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Speaker 1: was starting a podcast, but I just self managed it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the fabulous producer X and I was

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Speaker 1: editing it myself. They're probably tragic, don't go and listen

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Speaker 1: to them. But you did come on my pod years

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Speaker 1: and years ago, like that was literally like five years

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Speaker 1: ago something like literally, and where I have those five

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Speaker 3: And don't you feel like you're like you think back

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Speaker 3: then and you're like, I'm a completely different person one

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Speaker 1: But also I feel as if though Lockdown and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff feels like two years ago, but it's actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, five, no, five, it's five years of cheese.

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Speaker 2: Mate.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad to have you on the pod.

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Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people listening will already know who

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Speaker 1: you are, but just in case, can you give us

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Speaker 1: a bit of an elevator pitch. Who is Steph Pace?

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Speaker 1: And what is Steph Pace? Plan is? Where did everything start?

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Speaker 1: And what is the business like? Now, well, I'm Steph Pace.

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Speaker 2: Is a hot mess. Mineus the hot part. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: You are a hot mouse. Stop. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I am basically just a multi passionate type of girl.

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Speaker 3: I you know, in high school, I was always into

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Speaker 3: the next thing, chasing the next thing, and I always

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Speaker 3: kind of I enjoyed a lot of different areas and topics,

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Speaker 1: But maybe people would say it's a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I was flaky or I couldn't see anything

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Speaker 3: through was the big one. They used to call me

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Speaker 3: It's like, you can be whatever you want as long

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Speaker 3: as we accept it. You make enough money, and it's

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Speaker 3: But I had no idea what that was going to be.

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Speaker 3: But I just felt like it was going to be

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Speaker 3: all the different careers, like I went to UNI, did

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Speaker 1: You told me how to blend the crease bro Oh

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Speaker 3: And I remember when I was pregnant, people being like,

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Speaker 3: makes me froth nearly as much as Chris Samsworth. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I started that. And then because with me, with my

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Speaker 1: Well you were early today, you beat me here. That's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, this is why I brought like ten people

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice, nice, Yeah you here before me. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: It's fine, I'm usually late. But yeah, and then I

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Speaker 3: just thought, you know, all the planners are out there.

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Speaker 3: I've always loved a good planner ever since I watched

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Speaker 1: And then the dog dog poop and they had to

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Speaker 1: that planner that she had and it had everything yet

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Speaker 3: Movie and they get like all like glammed up. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: ever since I saw Jane Ryan with her planner obsessed,

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Speaker 2: It was just one planner.

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Speaker 3: And I remember, like you know, obviously finding your manufacturers

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Speaker 3: something that Ryan like, because we've been together since I

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Speaker 3: was seventeen. He's always been very like he has his

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Speaker 1: And it's a nice comfort, isn't it is. AJ has

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Speaker 3: And it's just it's sad because there is a lot

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Speaker 3: I think though with me, I do get tunnel vision,

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Speaker 1: It's I do wish.

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Speaker 3: I didn't listen to the outside voices, like the external

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Speaker 1: I was diagnosed at six, but I hid that until

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Speaker 1: I was like in my thirties because back then it

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Speaker 3: So I always had this thing with me, like I

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Speaker 1: So I've always thought I was stupid.

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Speaker 3: So when it came to business, because I'm not great

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Speaker 3: with numbers and things like that, I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: I can't do.

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Speaker 1: This, there's no way I can do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know when you just when you tell

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Speaker 3: Well you're not now, because you've already decided that you're not.

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Speaker 3: So you're not going to go chuck on your runners

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that comes back to backing yourself.

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Speaker 3: And especially like in Australia with like tall poppy syndrome

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Speaker 4: Brittany's I actually never succeed in that task. No, we

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Speaker 1: would be too proud to ever admit that maybe you

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Speaker 1: made if it's the wrong decision or yeah, because you're

438
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Speaker 1: so proud, you know, yeah.

439
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 3: And it's just yeah, that's my biggest thing, especially when

440
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Speaker 3: I'm hiring people, I'm big on like if you make

441
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Speaker 3: a mistake, just like own it and then we'll like

442
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,199
Speaker 3: figure it out. But like, yeah, it was just it

443
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 3: was one of those things where I had to really

444
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,119
Speaker 3: zoom out and be like, okay, like what are my

445
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 3: next steps? And it was, yeah, finding the right people

446
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 3: for the job and people that are better than me. Yep,

447
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 3: Like dude, if I was doing logistics and warehousing, still

448
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 3: might we'd be screwed. Literally, this is when I had

449
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,719
Speaker 3: to like order stock. I'll literally be like three thousand

450
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 3: that sounds good, like not actually looking at like how

451
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 3: many have we sold? And I did, but I was

452
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,360
Speaker 3: also like this looks good, like yeah, I'm just I'm

453
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 3: not a It just it's not my strong point and

454
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 3: I am. I'm logical with a lot of things, but

455
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 3: I just know people can do it better. And there

456
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 3: was a lot of money being lost. And it wasn't

457
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 3: like me not caring. It just was I'm not the

458
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Speaker 3: best person.

459
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Speaker 1: For that job. Yeah, and that's okay. So now you've

460
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Speaker 1: got someone else's do and all your stock orders.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah literally nice, Yeah, I still do all of our Stockhology,

462
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 3: You're awesome, But I probably shouldn't told AJ the other

463
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Speaker 3: day that he's going to start doing them for me. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 3: I just I'm not a number, and I feel like

465
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Speaker 3: as soon as I have to deal with anything like

466
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 3: numbers or my passion and creativity just like goes down

467
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Speaker 3: the drain.

468
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Speaker 1: I'm like, one big lesson that I've learned this year

469
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: and something that I'm actively working on is more of

470
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Speaker 1: that trying to step out the day to day operations

471
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Speaker 1: of the business. Because when you are the business owner,

472
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: it's natural for you to just want to get invested

473
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 1: in every single corner of the business and every little

474
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Speaker 1: single thing that is happening within the business. But then,

475
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: like you said, if you're you know, getting focused on

476
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 1: all these tiny things, you're losing that creativity and passion

477
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Speaker 1: that I think owners and founders and creatives need to

478
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 1: have to keep the business moving forward. And that's been

479
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: one of my biggest lessons from twenty twenty five. I

480
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: need to focus on stepping out of the day to

481
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Speaker 1: day number one, so I can, you know, focus on

482
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: more of the stuff that I'm really good at and

483
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: again let those people that are in those roles do

484
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Speaker 1: what they are good at, rather than me feeling like

485
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Speaker 1: I need to be invested in every single little nook

486
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Speaker 1: and cranny. You're the business.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I say one hundred percent all the time. It

488
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent.

489
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Speaker 3: And I that was definitely it's funny you say that,

490
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 3: because that was definitely the revelation that I had along

491
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Speaker 3: the way with you know, kind of restructuring my whole business.

492
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: And that was while I was trying to write the book.

493
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: I got the book deal, and I was like, and

494
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: I had my podcast at the time, or tried to

495
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: stop because I was like, I can't do this. It's

496
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: too much. It is and it's like when you realize

497
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 3: you need to be working, be sorry. I need to

498
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 3: find people that will let me be working on the business,

499
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 3: not in the business. And I was very much like that,

500
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: like I was needing to know all the details for

501
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 3: everything because for me, I think like I feel safer

502
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: with knowledge, like even you know, like this is why

503
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 3: I always struggle with girls growing up, and like in

504
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: high school, I always had guy friends because I never

505
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: understood how girls can say one thing but mean and another.

506
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying all girls, but you know what I'm saying,

507
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: and I'm all about just needing to know the facts.

508
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, when I.

509
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: Hired these people and they you know, showed me that

510
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: like I got you, Like you just feel so much

511
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: lighter and now like my team, like I was able

512
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: to step out of my business, which I don't still

513
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: don't even I don't know, I don't know, it's God

514
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 3: and write my book because that's like the book. I

515
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: would never do it for anything else but my book.

516
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: But and they were things that just still taken along.

517
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: Is that and good?

518
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so before before I restructured and did all

519
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: the processes and overhault the business, I couldn't even take

520
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 3: a day off because to me, it was like the

521
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: repercussions of that, which just too great.

522
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have maybe more of like a junior

523
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: team at the time.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, everyone I've had in my business or

525
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: like they've all been so so incredible.

526
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've played their part at that stage in

527
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: the business. I feel the same about like Fate's teams,

528
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Like nothing wrong.

529
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: It's just but you need certain people to get you

530
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: from A to B and then certain people to get

531
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Speaker 3: you from B to C.

532
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: And that's what it comes down to.

533
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 3: And it's like and for me as a people, please

534
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: are that is really hard to kind of accept that

535
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: when you know, when I did have realizations that I'm like,

536
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: maybe I need someone to do this job. I need

537
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: to turn what I'm doing into like four jobs.

538
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

539
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: Yes, actually, just put the business first for once. Over

540
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 3: your emotions, which can feel very, very like foreign to me.

541
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Speaker 1: How do you feel one thing that I struggle with

542
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: and have struggled with ever since Fate started. But I've

543
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: definitely felt myself become more okay with it, and I

544
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: think you just kind of touched on it. So I

545
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: feel guilty if I'm not at the office.

546
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 3: Do you feel that I this was like my biggest

547
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: thing Like I used to and I used to always

548
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: like if only I had to go get the kids

549
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: and they're like sick, I'd always like give my staff,

550
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: like my team, like the reason, like oh I just

551
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: got to do this, like oh I'm going home.

552
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: But I feel that you have to give excuses.

553
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like and it gets to the point

554
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: like it's funny because now I think it was. I

555
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: think because I got into the position with my business

556
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 3: that I was like, Okay, I've had enough, like you know,

557
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: deadline pushbacks with the book Peyonin's like, you need to

558
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: write this book, and to me, that's so important. But

559
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: it kind of it kind of forced me to hire

560
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: this team, get them sorted. And then I kind of like, like,

561
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: what's what's the really feeling thing with the stick? And

562
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: you passed the stick. I'm not a sports person, what

563
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: is it about? Thanks Heller actually, but yeah, yeah, it's

564
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: the baton. And it forced me to like let go

565
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: of that control. And that actually did happen to me

566
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: a little. I had a taste of that earlier, unfortunately,

567
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: when my dad and my nan died ten months apart.

568
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: So like my nan raised me and I know, you're

569
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: like really closely on end too, and I was like

570
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: the hardest thing ever went through and I physically couldn't

571
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: even like get out of bed. And that was the

572
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: first taste of me being like I can't. And but

573
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: in that same sense, it allowed me to see that

574
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: people can do the thing, so I don't have to

575
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: do all.

576
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: The bloody I don't have to let them. I think

577
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: it's a pressure that owners put on themselves when no

578
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: one else is really asking for it. But in our head,

579
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: I've got to be that Yeah, I've got to be

580
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: there and you like you've toought it before, but you

581
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: like there's a you've worked so hard and we don't

582
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: switch off ever, No, you know it'd be Sunday, He'll

583
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: be like freaking two o'clock in the morning. And then

584
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: when you get your best bloody ideas does my head

585
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: in and like, but you've you've earnt that too, Like

586
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: that's yeah, like you win some, you lose some like

587
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: we yes, we don't have to what we do have

588
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: to show up, but we don't have certain hours or whatever.

589
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: But I was like endless so and I think we

590
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: never we always assume that people are.

591
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: Thinking the worst.

592
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: I think, and some of them do.

593
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: Some of them can because they suck and they should

594
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: just go home.

595
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: But it is it's just I've kind of gotten to

596
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: the point and I don't know, I just turned thirty five,

597
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: and now I feel like I'm all wise and shit,

598
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 3: but I just don't care anymore. And I'm like my

599
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: team know, my team knows I'm who I am. Yep,

600
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 3: And even that with like comms like sometimes I don't

601
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: be like good morning, blah blah blah.

602
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: I just get straight to the point.

603
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: But I always give them the disclaimer, like when I

604
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: hire them, I'm like, I'm just straight to the point, yep,

605
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: And I think, Yeah, if your team knows who you

606
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: are and what you're why is I think you just

607
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: need to just be okay with it with not people

608
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: pleasing all the time.

609
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: Have you had any experience like being a public figure

610
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: are and having like an audience online with then people

611
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: coming to work in your business and maybe having a

612
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: different perception of you because I've found for myself personally,

613
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: which makes sense when you do have an online profile

614
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: and maybe they've followed you for a while. Of course,

615
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna have our perceptions about people that we follow online,

616
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have an idea in our mind of

617
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: exactly who they are and what they're like. And then

618
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: I've found for me personally. And I'm sure you've experienced

619
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: the same. It's a very interesting territory to step in

620
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: when then someone's coming into your business to work with

621
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: you in your company, that dynamic of them like having

622
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: an already perceived perception perception of like who you are

623
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: and the way you're going to be.

624
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, definitely, And I think like I've most of

625
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: the people I've hired are actually that the start was

626
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: like friends, but like friends that are like we're both

627
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: could be.

628
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: Upfront, you know what I mean, And because you've got

629
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: to be careful with that because it gets.

630
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: It can be a bit crazy. We don't want to

631
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: do that.

632
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're like, there was some people that had,

633
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: you know, followed me online and that, but they I

634
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: think they wouldn't. They didn't really tell me till like later,

635
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: so they say that, you know, I know of you

636
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: and things, but you couldn't really get the vibe that

637
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: they were like full feeing girl vibe. Yeah, situation, But yeah,

638
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: they definitely I think when you kind of put your

639
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: boss hat on and you're like we gotta get this star,

640
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: We're gonna do this, they can be difficult get taken

641
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: aback because I'm not like, let's organize our poetry today,

642
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: Like that's not what I do now.

643
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: We got to fucking clean out the bins and the office.

644
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: Scott answer, Yeah, come on, like bloody shop fy shi

645
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: itself again. Yeah, and it is.

646
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 3: It's definitely one of those things that I think I

647
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: do try to in the interview process, which I'm sure

648
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: like you've.

649
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: Now now as well.

650
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: It's just you know, asking the questions like why do

651
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: you even want to work here, and if the answer

652
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: is like because I follow you.

653
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: Then it's like oh no, no, no, no, yeah.

654
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: And the probably think, yeah, it sounds harsh, but I've

655
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: experienced that myself as well, and it's just a real

656
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: what are time for us to live in to like

657
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: have people online have followings and then they start a

658
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: business and then they become a boss and then just

659
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: navigating that because same with us at Fate, Like when

660
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: anyone is applying for a role with us, whether it's

661
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: in one of our stores or at the warehouse or

662
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: at the office, the chances of them knowing Fate and

663
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: me it's pretty high, especially because we're like in Newcastle

664
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Speaker 1: and it's like a thing in Nui, you know. And

665
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: it's just very interesting to navigate that because it's one

666
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: thing to be a business owner and a boss and

667
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: a leader, but then to kind of have this outside

668
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: whole social media thing and a following. It just adds

669
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Speaker 1: another element. I feel it does.

670
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Speaker 3: And do you feel like I'm still navigating this but

671
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: I think I feel like you smash it is trying

672
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: to juggle those like, you know, in a business, we

673
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: juggle things, but you've got, like, you know, your personal.

674
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Brand, and like I'm the same as you. I don't

675
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: really do. I don't.

676
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: It's very rare your brand deals anymore because I'm like,

677
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: if I'm gouna have any time, I want to spend

678
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: it on SPP or trying to sleep, but I do

679
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: struggle to kind of like fit it all in. Yes,

680
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: and I'm the person who bloody sells planners and I'm saying,

681
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

682
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: It's not very on Brandon now. But I'm like, and

683
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: it's funny.

684
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: Because even like I get people who message me every

685
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: day and they are literally scared to use their planning

686
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: because their writings messing. I'm like, bro, have you seen

687
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: my writing is like chicken scratches and my self freaking planners?

688
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: But we're just we're always just trying to be like

689
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: perfect all the time. You know, it just it just

690
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense.

691
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: I definitely feel the same like juggling all the things

692
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: that I do and doing my job and then entertaining

693
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: the audience that I have online. And some weeks I go, fuck,

694
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: it's Thursday and I haven't done one story, Like you know,

695
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: jump on my story at night and make sure I'm

696
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: doing everything that I think in my mind that I

697
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: should be doing. But I think I think we're already

698
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: doing enough.

699
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's another app, but there's another bloody

700
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: app that gets added.

701
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Speaker 2: Gys, I'm out when I.

702
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Speaker 1: Was like bloody hell when TikTok came out.

703
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually really bad at TikTok. I need to

704
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: get my TikTok.

705
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: I find I neglect the fate when we try to

706
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: stay consistent with But I remember when I first found

707
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: TikTok again. I think it was like twenty nineteen, like

708
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: just before lockdown times. I was like, oh, that's the

709
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: kid time, wasn't it. Yeah, it's the Tiktoks.

710
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: Are great back then.

711
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah it's dancing. Yeah, And I remember going, no, this

712
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: is an app for kids that are dancing. I'm not

713
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: going to do that.

714
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: I regret not going back, like doing it properly now,

715
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: but anyway.

716
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Late to start. But I find like what I do

717
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: is I just post the same piece of content on

718
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram. No one cares. Also, what are the

719
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: chances with everyone seeing the exact same video on two

720
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Speaker 1: different platforms?

721
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Speaker 3: And I feel like TikTok is very much like New Audience. Yes,

722
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: you get and I always get really so like on Instagram,

723
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: like I'm very luck. I don't get much assholes, but

724
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: there's there's lots of assholes out there.

725
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: But if I say there's.

726
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: Like a negative comment on TikTok, I'm like, you don't

727
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: even know me, bro. But if it's Instagram, I'm like,

728
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm like my heart like yeah, because it's.

729
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Like your community. And then TikTok is just random, yeah.

730
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Speaker 2: Random really angry people, aren't they.

731
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah they are.

732
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: It's always like and there's yeah, always like a fish,

733
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: like they're profile pictures always I'm holding a fish.

734
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like you don't know me. You don't know

735
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Speaker 1: how long I've been around.

736
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Speaker 3: And it's just ye assumptions like we're saying before, like

737
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: people just see your stuff and think that you just

738
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: had a really easy rite and like you've been you've

739
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: done so many things, Like I love seeing I think

740
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: you posted it was like your businesses before, but doesn't

741
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: don't you think, like back to the high school topic

742
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: of trying all the different things and how you know,

743
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: I remember in year eleven they're like, you know, this

744
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: is your HC. And this is super importing. If you

745
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: don't do this, like you're literally going to combust.

746
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember even just being in like year nine

747
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: and ten, like prepping to go into year ten and

748
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: the pressure of you've got to pick your subjects for

749
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: year eleven and twelve, and it's I felt like it

750
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: was a life or death situation.

751
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: It's like, and it felt like I felt like, you know,

752
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: most of my friends were like, I want to be this,

753
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: I want to be that.

754
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I want to be a teacher. And I'm like, dude,

755
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: I just my boobs.

756
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: Just came in.

757
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how to operate the BET and now

758
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: you want me to tell me what uniform to shove

759
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: them in.

760
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't bloody know. I have no idea. I some

761
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: dolly doctor. I remember going to our careers counselor, you know,

762
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: he had like the careers guy, and he at one

763
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: point fully convinced me that I should join the army reserves.

764
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, were you keen? Yeah? I didn't know what

765
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Speaker 1: I wanted to do in life, and so he I

766
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: was in year ten and he presented the idea of

767
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: the army reserves to me, and then I was like Okay.

768
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: So I went to this like Army report day like

769
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: for people getting into the Army reserves, and I was

770
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: like filling out four Oh my goodness, that's so funny

771
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: in the Army rest case. So kind of cute. But

772
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, like a little collection, like you just have

773
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: no idea when you're in year ten what you want

774
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: to do. But school does make you feel like you

775
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: should have your life figured out when people are still

776
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: like in their thirties and forties and still trying to

777
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: figure it out. And that's fine.

778
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, like I swear they said, like

779
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: the most successful CEOs are literally they starting their like

780
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: forties sixties, and the thing, it's like, I feel like

781
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: when we're in our twenties and stuff, we're just newborn adults,

782
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: Like we've just become an adult. Like we're like newborns

783
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: at that stage. And even now we're like basically toddlers.

784
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: We're still learning. And I think now, you know, seeing

785
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: our parents generation, you know, we were never able to

786
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: question them.

787
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Like this way, this was how you do life.

788
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and then it's like for us, I felt like

789
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: as we grew up, we were waiting for like this

790
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: magic like switch to flick and we're an adult and

791
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: it never happens, and then we all wonder why we

792
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: feel like we're not good enough. Yeah, and that's because

793
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, and our parents it was a facade. They

794
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: didn't have that shit together, no, but it just seemed

795
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: that way they did. And they could buy a house

796
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: when they were like twenty.

797
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like that was that wild because were like

798
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: three grand Yeah, like is this cool? Yeah? Just some

799
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: spare change by.

800
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: But it's just it's just different now, you know, even

801
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: as me, like as a parent, like I love that

802
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: I can show my girls like you know, mum just

803
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: she did her like you know, everyone's like what, I

804
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: just don't know what my one thing is. And the

805
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: thing is you got to realize that you are You're

806
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: one thing. And I love that they can grow up

807
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: and you know they do. They pack in the warehouse

808
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: and they see all that and they've seen I still

809
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: remember when I was sending out planners in my garage

810
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: and Harp would always cry when the like stew are

811
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: post he shout out to steer your legend. He would

812
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: rock up to get the boxes and she cries. She's like,

813
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: maybe they're taking your books and it's just so beautiful

814
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: to have them like on that journey with me. And

815
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: also when they get to school, I'd be like, you

816
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: don't have to go to UNI and you want, you know,

817
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: whatever you want, Like, it's just it is. It's a

818
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: different time, and I just hope like, yeah, for like

819
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: the next generation, we've kind of you know, where the

820
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 3: test dummies.

821
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Really we really aren't. Millennials have really paved the way

822
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: when it comes to social media. I know that gen

823
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Z's is that the one belongs.

824
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one.

825
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: I know. Gen Z's like think that millennials are like ikey,

826
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: like I.

827
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: Am a bit icky sometimes Yeah, I'm a bit cringey sometimes.

828
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we are. But I feel like we we

829
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: all walked so the gen Zs can run and this.

830
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 4: We were in the trenches for social media. It was

831
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 4: like there were no rules.

832
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: There was the eyebrowns, you se, we had no eyebrows,

833
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: and then we had the anastasia like deep brow thick.

834
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah that was some thick eyebrow.

835
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

836
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: But then yeah, I want no security on the internet.

837
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was chatting with random guys.

838
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: Book did you Oh yeah, I went I went there.

839
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: Bro nice that they honestly, gen Z haven't lived. We lived.

840
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: We lived so they could enjoy themselves. Well, let's talk

841
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: about your book, Mastering My Messy Life, my journey from

842
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: chaos to clarity. Steph Pace, I've got a copy in

843
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: my hand right here. Let me just do a little

844
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: as mr Oh, is that nice Sander that's in easy ears?

845
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: Is that good? Wait? Let me smell it?

846
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: You just discovered his new fattish I reckon.

847
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. Sorry, You've got a quote from Sean

848
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: tell Duncan here on the front. That's so nice. I

849
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: love her. She's a legend. Anyone who reads this memoir

850
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: will walk away feeling understood, uplifted, and a little braver

851
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: to embrace their own chaos. From Chantal Duncan, fitness entrepreneur, entrepreneur, entrepreneur,

852
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I never, I never that word and mum of five,

853
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: tell us about your book? What is this book about?

854
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: So basically, it's about my my shit shove of life

855
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: and yeah, like even like things we've already touched on,

856
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: it's about, you know, being this scatterbrain girl who grew

857
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: up in a very like chaotic, intense like family. Like

858
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: I've got my brother who's got down to autism, so

859
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 3: he's nonverbal, and it was just my childhood was very

860
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: like it wasn't there's no normal childhood.

861
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Look like everyone's got their trauma. You get traumatized.

862
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: I saw this really other day actually, and it was

863
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: like this like gen Z maybe even younger. And that's

864
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: then when they're grown up and they're like my parents

865
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: came to every soccer game. They told me I could

866
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: be whatever I wanted, and like they're like their trauma

867
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: was like AI videos so funny, and I'm like that's

868
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: literally asked, but with like, yeah, I just never knew

869
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: what I was coming home.

870
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: To every day. It was a really it was a

871
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: shitty time.

872
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: And it talks about yeah, like I talk very openly

873
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: about you know, even going through your teenage years and

874
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: like puberty and you know, growing up with Bloody, watching

875
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: The Biggest Loser and then the media like zooming on

876
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: cell your Light and what it does to us. Like

877
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: I literally like every chapter is like a theme and

878
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: like a topic, but it's kind of weaved through my

879
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: story and it goes through to you know, being multi

880
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: passionate and not knowing what I want to do and

881
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: me self sabotaging myself, and poor Ryan's just along for

882
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: this fucking crazy ride, like he needs to meddle that guy.

883
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: And you're turning this business, like creating this business from

884
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: you know, from my garage until now, and just there

885
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: is so much, so many different themes in the book,

886
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: but basically it's just like I feel like as humans,

887
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Like so you know, when guests come over your house,

888
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: you're running around like crazy, You're trying to hide your mess.

889
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: You're like, shit, let's not we.

890
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Don't want them to know we actually live here, okay,

891
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: Like which.

892
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Makes like that over or when someone gets in our

893
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: car and we've just got some rappers and a couple

894
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: of empty water bottles and you're like, say sorry about

895
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: the mess, like Xander the other day when I got

896
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: in his car.

897
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 4: No, it's the your mum telling you to clean your room,

898
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: but they're not going to go in your room. Yeah,

899
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: I did not understand that, and I still just chuck

900
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: everything in there. Who cares?

901
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would like that, like people coming over

902
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: and we want it has to be purpose.

903
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: We're ashamed of our existence, Like it doesn't make any

904
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: freaking sense. And even in the book, because I'm a

905
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: very messy human, which people are surprised and they're like,

906
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: how you organized?

907
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Like how can you be organized in a mess? And

908
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: I go, I'm organized.

909
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: Because I'm a mess I don't I don't have a

910
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: concept of time, and I don't have it all together, like.

911
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But it's just what was

912
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: I fucking talking about?

913
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing it again?

914
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Well, we done this like five times. Okay, here's a

915
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: question for you. For someone that is that way where

916
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: they're messy and they just never feel organized, what are

917
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: three of your top tips just like life, little hacks

918
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: that you have found that have helped you to become

919
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: more organized amongst your mess I think with this so.

920
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: This is also what I've figured out along the way,

921
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: because you know, so, say you wake up on Monday morning,

922
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 3: you're like, I want to get organized. You kind of

923
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: expect yourself to be able to follow the same path

924
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: or map as other people who might, you know, be

925
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: super organized. But the thing is you're setting yourself up

926
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: for failure. It's like business like there's no cookie cutter

927
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: routine and is.

928
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: Anyone actually really organized or is it all just for show?

929
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: Because I'm not organized and I'm messy, like you're organizer.

930
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: Okay, hell, you're pretty organized.

931
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: It's just like selective. I'm selectively organized.

932
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of important things. And that's I also

933
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: hate the saying that says how you do one thing

934
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: is how you do everything. I fully hate that saying

935
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: because I'm like, the way I shop for my kids

936
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: is not the same way as I'm three weeks behind

937
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: all my life. Ad men, And you know, there's always

938
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: going to be parts of your life that need you

939
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: more than others. And I think when it comes to,

940
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, being organized, my biggest tip is to just

941
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: see the season that you're in for what it is

942
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: and having that flexibility. So, for example, let's say you

943
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: like I want to get more organized in the morning,

944
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: You're not gonna wake up every morning feeling the exact

945
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: same way. So if you're gonna make this freaking stupid,

946
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: tense step routine that Susie does and she wakes up

947
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: at four she makes organic water, I don't think that's

948
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: a thing.

949
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: She meditates on a rock for four hours.

950
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: It's the organic water in the morning is so delicious,

951
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: And then she goes for a tan k walk, Like

952
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: you're you're not gonna wake up every day feeling like Susie.

953
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: Susie's sucks, and I feel like, especially on that note,

954
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: when you're a woman, like our hormonal cycle is different

955
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: every single day, But do you know that men's hormonal

956
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: cycle is the same every twenty four hours, Like they

957
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: wake up and it's just a big circle and they

958
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: go back to zero, and they're like cycle of their

959
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: day is the exact same, whereas women's are different every day.

960
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: And then you wonder why we have a little meltdown

961
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: or something in the morning.

962
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, coffee, and it's like, I don't know how I

963
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: want to wake up tomorrow. And that's the same things.

964
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: When you're trying to get organized, you need to have

965
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: routines for your different levels. So you need one for like, okay,

966
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: let's just say morning routine. You need to make say

967
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: three like a menu morning routine for potato Steph, who's

968
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: the bare minimum who don't don't look at me or

969
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 3: breathe in my direction. And then there's your average day, Steph,

970
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: which is probably most days, let's be honest. And then

971
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: there's like SUSI level, like annoyingly energetic. And then on

972
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: the days you wake up and you're like, okay, what

973
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 3: level or might you can follow those routines, And it's

974
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: just like being able to be flexible because the problem

975
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: is people when we set ourselves up with these big

976
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: plans or we're going to organize and all the things,

977
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: and you don't get there, you blame yourself because you're like,

978
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: I fell off the bandwagon. Again, it's the same with

979
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: health and fitness. It couldn't even be social media like

980
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: posting in business like whatever it is. You try to

981
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: stick to something and then you fall off the bandwagon.

982
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: But the thing is there is no bandwagon, Like we

983
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: built the wagon. You know, you jump on the road's rocky,

984
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: speeds up, the wheels are starting to fall off and

985
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: it gets faster and faster because you're getting harder on

986
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: yourself and more stricter and stricter, and then you fall

987
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: on your ass. And then instead of blaming the wagon,

988
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 3: you blame yourself for not hanging on like tight enough.

989
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: And that's just because it's humans. We're never going to

990
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: we're not consistent, and like, yes, you do need to

991
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: be consistent in your efforts in business, but not every

992
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: day is the same. So you need to have these

993
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: things to fall back on, so you know, having your

994
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: men use, having like your low energy routine, having your

995
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: high energy routine, and also just seeing what works for

996
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: you and if you do need to pivot, like that's okay.

997
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: And you know, in terms of like say decluttering, you

998
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: don't want to try and tackle the whole thing. So

999
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: people always say to me, like, how do I do

1000
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: clutter my like house? I'm like, well, you're not going

1001
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: to get Maricondo in for the weekend and you're going

1002
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: to smash it out. You need to look at it

1003
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: like a bit by bit. You don't want to think

1004
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: of the whole house. You want to think of that draw,

1005
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: that cupboard.

1006
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: And I'm that way when I clean, Like I go, okay,

1007
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a clean It's Saturday morning. I'm

1008
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: going to do a house clean. I'll like be in

1009
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: my bathroom like putting some like some empty in the bin,

1010
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: and then I've walked to the laundry, and then I

1011
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: walk to my room and then I go to the kitchen,

1012
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: Like I can't just do like one room of time,

1013
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: and then I'm like going over the whole house to

1014
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: try and do a clean up, and I feel like

1015
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting nothing done. Like what was I doing. It's

1016
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: because it's like little trail.

1017
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: It's like the magic Trail to Hogwarts or some shit

1018
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: like yeah, and I for god, I.

1019
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Was saying, you're saying do like one yeah, and yeah,

1020
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: it's the same.

1021
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: I'm so bad today. It's the same in business, if

1022
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: you try and overhaul your whole business, that's just insane.

1023
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: You need to you know, yeah, you do need a

1024
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: zoom out at times one hundred percent, But when it

1025
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: comes to like the actual action and getting like getting placed,

1026
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: like growing followers, you need to just post consistently and

1027
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: tackle one thing at a time with that. And it's

1028
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: the same with de cluttering and organization, like don't expect

1029
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: yourself to do it in one weekend and it's not

1030
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 3: going to stay like that. Like it's consistent efforts, efforts

1031
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: every day. So it's like, you know, you want to

1032
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: get fit, you don't just get fit one time and

1033
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: then you stay like that.

1034
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: You need to go to the gym every day.

1035
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: We're like that as humans. We think whenever we want

1036
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: to do something, you're just going to do it in

1037
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: full and then it will be done. But no, it's

1038
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: like doing small efforts every day and being consistent that

1039
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: will get you to that end goal. But then there's

1040
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: never an end goal because you've got to stay at it.

1041
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want you don't want to get to

1042
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: like the end goal because that you know, like to me,

1043
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I'm sure you like you wouldn't.

1044
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: Would you think that you'll be here today doing what

1045
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: you're doing right now, like say five ten years now,

1046
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: and like I'm sure you would. If someone told you that,

1047
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: you'd be like, oh, I'd be so fulfilled. I'd be

1048
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: like I'd be done.

1049
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: Then you're not.

1050
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: You're never done, and you don't want to be done exactly.

1051
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: And you can't just wait for to reach these goals

1052
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: to be happy all the time. You need to just

1053
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: enjoy the process, which is playing to say, but it's true.

1054
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: It is. I saw I don't know if I already

1055
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: said it on this podcast or who knows, but I

1056
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: saw someone saying online. You know how we often reflect on, oh,

1057
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: those were the good old days when you're thinking about

1058
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: like an era in your life or the good old times.

1059
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: The moment that you're living in now is also the

1060
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: good old times. You just don't know it yet. You

1061
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: don't know it yet, but in the future, you're going

1062
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: to be looking back at this time in your life.

1063
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: And even if at this time in your life you

1064
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: feel like it's chaos and everything's going wrong and nothing's

1065
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: working out in your house is a mess, You're going

1066
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: to look back in a few years that right now

1067
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: and go, oh, those were the good old days. And

1068
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I think that's a good like mindfulness so activity to

1069
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: be like, I'm living in the good old days right now,

1070
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: so therefore I need to enjoy right now even if

1071
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: things aren't perfect.

1072
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: And even how to say it again, as like a parent,

1073
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: I do try to remember that because you know, my

1074
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: kid's a little seven and nine and they drive me

1075
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: bloody nuts. Love your children, but she's honestly, but you

1076
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: do like I know, one day I when to look

1077
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: back and back I'm going to miss cleaning their toys

1078
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: up from the floor and like you're having the fingerprints

1079
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: all over the windows, because then like if it's not there,

1080
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: that means that you know, like that's you know, that

1081
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 3: time's done. And even like building a business, like I'm

1082
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: sure do you like look back at the start of

1083
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: fight and stuff and just be like, oh my god,

1084
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: that was like it was crazy, but like it was

1085
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: so good.

1086
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I look back and think I could never do

1087
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: that again. I don't know how I did that like that,

1088
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean we hand wrote everyone's name

1089
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: and address on the front of the parcel, like you know.

1090
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: But then I do think back as well, and I'm like,

1091
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: those were the good old days, and we'll think the

1092
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: same about where we are today.

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: That's so true. No, Like, yeah, you just kind of

1094
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: and it is like it's easier than done. But we

1095
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: all like say, we want to be present. But I

1096
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 3: think when you're in a society that is constantly moving

1097
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: and things are changing all the time, and you're always

1098
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: kind of forward planning, which we do have to do

1099
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: as business owners. Yep, as you said, you do need

1100
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 3: to kind of just you know, touch grass.

1101
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: Sometimes quite literally. Initially we just.

1102
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: Got grass in the backyard and it's been like eight

1103
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: months and the girls are just out there doing cartwheels

1104
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm gonna grab that tooheel do some cartwheels.

1105
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't think I could do a cartwheel. I reckon,

1106
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: I'd land on my head. I feel like it's like

1107
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: a girlie hat.

1108
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: Our girls they'll play like soccer and that, and then

1109
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: they'll do cartwheels in between.

1110
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm like of soccer. I don't know what's happening in here.

1111
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: But okay, we're gonna have to get you back and sooner,

1112
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: please please. I can't believe you haven't been on Big

1113
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: Business yet.

1114
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: I know, and we've been talking about for ages. But

1115
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: now look, my book's done and a free book is

1116
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: out the way, fairly free agent. Yeah yeah, just not

1117
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: Thursdays because that's meeting day.

1118
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: Okay, fair, We'll have to get you back, not on

1119
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: a Thursday. But it's been amazing to have you on

1120
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: the pod. To end every Big Business episode, we always

1121
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: do a tip of the week. I feel like you've

1122
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: already given us so many tips. But do you have

1123
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: another tip while you're here that you can share with

1124
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: us live? Hack, business, hack, mum hack, anything in between? Yeah?

1125
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: Sure, I think with this it's I guess it's a

1126
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: bit of like a filter. So whenever I now make

1127
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: a decision or I decide on a new goal, I

1128
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: now have this process. So I ask myself, would I

1129
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: still be chasing this goal if no one was clapping, well,

1130
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: if no one was watching, because I think especially you

1131
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: know with how shiny social media is and things like that,

1132
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you can relate. When you reach something,

1133
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: it might not feel how you thought it was going

1134
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: to feel. So for me to figure out if this

1135
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: is actually what I want to do and it's important

1136
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: to me and my business, I run it through that

1137
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: filter of if no one knew or no one was

1138
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: watching or clapping me on, would I still want to.

1139
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: Chase this goal. That's a great one. I feel like

1140
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: we could look at our whole life through that if

1141
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, because everything is almost for show, right, Yeah,

1142
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: especially like growing up.

1143
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: Like imagine if we had that filter, even like in

1144
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: our twenties or when we're teenagers. Because the amount of

1145
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: times I realized I thought I was trying to prove

1146
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: myself to everyone else, but I actually was just trying

1147
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 3: to prove it to myself that I was enough.

1148
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: That's a great tip. Yeah, Well, Steph, where can everyone

1149
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: find you?

1150
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: In my pantry? Crying?

1151
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Perfect? Thank you for coming on? Sorry online, I'm Steph

1152
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: Pace Underscore, but it's paced with an S, and yeah,

1153
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm also Steph Pace Planners. Everyone, get yourself a planner.

1154
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: It's the new year, Get yourself organized, you would think like,

1155
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: I'm the worst. I don't write anything down.

1156
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: It's fine, little different.

1157
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: It's all up in my head.

1158
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my brain can't.

1159
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: I have the memory of a goldfish. Nice.

1160
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: Oh sorry you go, but I remember like really useless facts,

1161
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: like you know, this part of the horses foot is

1162
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: called a frog?

1163
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: Like why do I have no is it?

1164
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Actually? Yeah, it's the middle of the hoop hoof is

1165
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: a hoof hoop hoop hoof?

1166
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Who I don't know what I'm telling you. This is

1167
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: on your podcast?

1168
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: But anyway, and where can everyone get a copy of

1169
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: your book?

1170
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

1171
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: So you can get it from pretty much your favorite

1172
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: bookstore online and can get it through like Stepfa's planners.

1173
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, your favorite bookstore, online, Amazon, all the places.

1174
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to give it a read. Thanks

1175
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: for giving me a copy.

1176
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: I did an audiobook truth if you really like my

1177
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: voice and I haven't talked a years off.

1178
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: Nice to listen to you on the way home from Sydney. Well,

1179
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: thanks so much Steph for coming on and we will

1180
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: absolutely have to get you back.

1181
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: Thanks my love. It was so fun.