WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 31 October

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<v Speaker 1>From the Sky News Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening and welcome. I'm Caleb Bond.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Beido number two in for Paul tonight. He's on

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<v Speaker 3>his way to the USA, of course, for the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty more to come from him next week. But in

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<v Speaker 3>the meantime, pour yourself a drink and settle in for.

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<v Speaker 1>A ripper hour. I'll have Michael Kroger.

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<v Speaker 3>And Christie McSweeney with me soon, and I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>an old maid of mine who's made a docco about

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<v Speaker 3>patching fire in a horror car crash.

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<v Speaker 1>And living to tell the tale. Well, the whole Alban.

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<v Speaker 3>Eazy Quantus thing just gets weirder and weirder and weirder.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I've been calling him Albert Freebee. Paul of course

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<v Speaker 3>has been calling him upgrade Albow, and he's clearly worried

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff is sticking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because it is.

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<v Speaker 3>He told his ministers at a meeting in Melbourne today

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<v Speaker 3>that he was the victim of an unfair media campaign

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<v Speaker 3>and that Labor was held to a higher standard than

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<v Speaker 3>the Coalition. What a classic look over there. Oh, why

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<v Speaker 3>is the media so unfair on poor old Elbow?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on.

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<v Speaker 3>He must really be off with the pixies if he

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<v Speaker 3>believes that one god.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly with me, will fly, We'll fly.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, God, let my away.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, after this week he may well be thinking more

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<v Speaker 3>along the lines of this sinnatratude.

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<v Speaker 5>Fly me to the moon, let me play up there

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<v Speaker 5>with those stars.

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<v Speaker 3>At least he wouldn't have to deal with us up there.

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<v Speaker 3>And well, if he can get a quantus upgrade on

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<v Speaker 3>the way, why not. Now we know he said all

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff at the meeting because a number of people

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<v Speaker 3>who were in the meeting leaked it to the Nine Papers.

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<v Speaker 3>And when ministers start leaking against their prime minister, you

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<v Speaker 3>know things are not going well. One MP who was

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<v Speaker 3>at the meeting quoted him as saying, the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>happened to Kevin Rudd, the same thing happened to Julia Gillard,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Bill Shorten, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now me I mean boohoo.

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<v Speaker 3>Another person who was there told the Nine Papers that

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<v Speaker 3>it was quote a massive sook up. In The Australian,

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<v Speaker 3>they wrote. One person at the meeting told The Australian

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<v Speaker 3>the monologue was even worse than his widely panned press

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<v Speaker 3>conference a day earlier, accusing the Prime Minister of rambling

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<v Speaker 3>without having a clear objective of what his ministers should

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<v Speaker 3>take away from the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this morning Ben Fordham on two GB read out

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<v Speaker 3>an exchange he had with Albinizi where he denied talking

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<v Speaker 3>to anyone at Quantas about getting upgrades.

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<v Speaker 4>Crucially, as of this morning, he has denied ever talking

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<v Speaker 4>to Alan Joyce about flight upgrades or personal travel. We

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<v Speaker 4>asked the PM if he's discussed all of this with

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<v Speaker 4>Alan Joyce. The PM replied, no, I haven't spoken to

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<v Speaker 4>Alan in a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>We asked the Prime Minister to join us on on

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<v Speaker 4>air today, but he told us he's unavailable. Why he's

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<v Speaker 4>catching a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's finally denied it nearly a week later. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>remember yesterday he put out a very carefully worded statement

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<v Speaker 3>saying he'd never called Alan Joyce about an upgrade. But

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<v Speaker 3>he certainly didn't deny talking to anyone else. Now, if

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<v Speaker 3>he never asked anyone for an upgrade, then why didn't

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<v Speaker 3>he just say so from the outset? You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>can understand if he can't remember every upgrade he's ever

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<v Speaker 3>been given, because yes, lots of politicians get them, but

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<v Speaker 3>surely you'd remember whether you asked for one, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>not the usual course of action. And yet until now

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<v Speaker 3>he said no such thing. But he expects us to

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<v Speaker 3>believe him now. And of course Sharry revealed last night

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<v Speaker 3>that the QUANTUS then Group Executive for Government and International Affairs,

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Parker, had personally handled Albaneze's upgrades and that they

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<v Speaker 3>were mates. He still has an answered that one, but

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<v Speaker 3>today it was time.

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<v Speaker 1>For a distraction.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was that Peter Dutton had asked Gina ryan

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<v Speaker 3>Hart to use her private jet. Now he was asked

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<v Speaker 3>on Tuesday whether he'd ever done that, and he said no,

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<v Speaker 3>that was wrong, and he deserves to be criticized for that.

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<v Speaker 3>He corrected the record today though.

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<v Speaker 6>And at that point, I think we had a charter estimate,

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<v Speaker 6>which was about forty thousand dollars to fly from rock

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<v Speaker 6>Hampden to Sydney and then back to Mackay. I thought

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<v Speaker 6>that was very expensive, and the cheap option for the

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<v Speaker 6>taxpayer was for my office to speak to Missus Reinhart's

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<v Speaker 6>officer as to whether the plane might be available.

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<v Speaker 1>That was at zero cost.

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<v Speaker 6>To the taxpayer, and that's as I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think you'd get as clear a statement as that from

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<v Speaker 6>the Prime minister. But that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's be serious here, this is a completely different situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Labour wants you to think that this is in some

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<v Speaker 3>way comparable. That Dutton has had snout in the trough

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<v Speaker 3>just as much and so look, we're not any different

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<v Speaker 3>than the other mob but they're not the same. Dutton's office,

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<v Speaker 3>while he is in opposition, asks a personal friend of

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<v Speaker 3>his whether he can borrow her plane to go to

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<v Speaker 3>a Barley bombing memorial. It's not like missus Reinhardt has

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<v Speaker 3>Dubai Dutton support. He's previously declared himself the best friend

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<v Speaker 3>mining's ever had. That's his publicly stated clear policy position.

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<v Speaker 3>And the mining sector is completely different to the airline sector.

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<v Speaker 3>Mining licenses are assessed and granted by state governments and

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<v Speaker 3>it's generally done at a departmental level, not by the minister.

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<v Speaker 3>The federal government only regulates offshore exploration the airline sector.

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<v Speaker 3>The airline sector, i should say, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 3>is tightly controlled by the federal government, with many operators

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<v Speaker 3>of course fighting for the opportunity to run their planes

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<v Speaker 3>in and out of Australia and around Australia, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is at the discretion of the Transport Minister now regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of whether or not he actually solicited the upgrades. What

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<v Speaker 3>we are talking about with Albanizi is the Transport Minister

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<v Speaker 3>taking gifts from the biggest stakeholder in his portfolio, over

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<v Speaker 3>whose industry he has almost total control. He could choose

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<v Speaker 3>how many quantus flights were allowed and how many flights

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<v Speaker 3>every other airline was allowed to have. That's what we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about here. It is in no way comparable to

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dutton and it's frankly a pathetic attempt to get

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<v Speaker 3>people to look in the other direction. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>the decisions of the Transport Minister, the decisions he makes

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<v Speaker 3>about what airlines can operate and how many flights they

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<v Speaker 3>can run, that directly affects what you pay for flights

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<v Speaker 3>because it controls how much competition.

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<v Speaker 1>There is in the market.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the main reasons that Rex fell over

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<v Speaker 3>on its mission to run between the capital cities, because

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney to Melbourne is one of the busiest and one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most profitable airline routes in the world. But

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<v Speaker 3>they could only get too slot today in the mid

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<v Speaker 3>morning and the late evening, which aren't prime flying time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how is another operator meant to break into

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<v Speaker 3>the market if they're not allowed to fly when people

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<v Speaker 3>want to fly. These are the decisions that the Transport

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<v Speaker 3>Minister makes. That's why it's important whether or not the

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<v Speaker 3>Transport Minister gets free gifts upgrades from quantas and in

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<v Speaker 3>the interest of declarations, because that's the word of the week,

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<v Speaker 3>it would seem I was once given a free drink

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<v Speaker 3>on a Rex flight, would you believe it? But again,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the power of the Transport Minister, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why the Transport Minister taking gifts from the biggest and

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<v Speaker 3>most powerful airline in the country stinks. They can try

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<v Speaker 3>to point fingers at Dutton and others all they want,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not the same. Now, the COVID inquiry report

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<v Speaker 3>was handed down on Tuesday, and have we heard from

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<v Speaker 3>a single pandemic premier year?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know what was in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But just for the sake of clarity, because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you can point this stuff out enough, I'll avail

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<v Speaker 3>you of some of.

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<v Speaker 1>Its greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 3>The evidence suggests that some restrictions were poorly justified in

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<v Speaker 3>extent and all duration, disproportionate to the risk, and inconsistently

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<v Speaker 3>applied across the country, and that specific groups were disproportionately impacted. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>It said that people felt that restrictive measures were not

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate in the long term and were too heavy handed

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<v Speaker 3>and controlling, and that there was a perception that authorities

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<v Speaker 3>lacked compassion and refused to make exceptions based on need

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<v Speaker 3>and circumstance. Correct It said that fairness and proportionality should

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<v Speaker 3>have been considered in restrictions. More evidence based approaches are advisable,

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<v Speaker 3>and that there were limited real time evaluations of public

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<v Speaker 3>health measures and policy decisions to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 3>actually worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It said the closure of state borders.

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<v Speaker 3>Was enacted unilaterally and lack consistency and compassion in implementation.

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<v Speaker 3>It said that broad opposition to vaccine mandates was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the inquiry's clearest findings, and that they contributed to

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<v Speaker 3>distrust in government, increased vaccine hesitancy, and carried profound social

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<v Speaker 3>and economic costs for those who could not or decided

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<v Speaker 3>not to get vaccinated. Now, the inquiry might not have

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<v Speaker 3>been charged with looking at the states, and as we know,

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<v Speaker 3>no premier or chief public health officer was hauled in

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<v Speaker 3>and questioned because the Albanese government wanted to run a

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<v Speaker 3>protection racket for Daniel Andrews and Anastasia Paliche. But all

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<v Speaker 3>of those things were done by and run.

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<v Speaker 1>By the States.

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<v Speaker 3>And where are the pandemic premiers Andrews in Victoria, Palochet

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<v Speaker 3>in Queensland, Stephen Marshall in South Australia, Gladysbury, Jiclian in

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales, Mark McGowan in Western Australia, Peter Gutween

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<v Speaker 3>in Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 1>Where have they all been this week?

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<v Speaker 3>The report came out on Tuesday, so they had most

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<v Speaker 3>of Tuesday, all of Wednesday, all of Thursday. They've had

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<v Speaker 3>the better part of three days to say something and nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we are pretty clearly owed an apology, but

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<v Speaker 3>they are taking us for mugs now, just as they

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<v Speaker 3>took us for mugs a few years ago when they

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<v Speaker 3>were wielding all these lockdowns and restrictions. They obviously don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that we're deserving of an explanation, let alone an

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<v Speaker 3>apology now. The only pandemic premier who has issued any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of apology is Dominic Perrete, who said that vaccine

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<v Speaker 3>mandates were wrong and that they should not have cost

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<v Speaker 3>people their jobs, and that he regrets implementing them when

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<v Speaker 3>he left parliament. These people should count themselves lucky that

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't hauled before this inquiry to explain themselves. But

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<v Speaker 3>they owe us an explanation, they owe us an apology.

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<v Speaker 3>For years they hid behind the health advice of Chief

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<v Speaker 3>Health Chief a chief Sorry health officers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are at Adelaide Oval and the ball comes

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<v Speaker 3>towards you, my advice to you is to duck and

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<v Speaker 3>just do not touch that ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean remember that one seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I was critical, as were plenty of other people throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic, of how things were run and how there

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<v Speaker 3>was no basis for much of what was done. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't want to answer it as some bloke

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<v Speaker 3>on the telly and in the paper, sure, but an

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<v Speaker 3>independent report by people much more qualified than I says

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<v Speaker 3>you got it wrong and that it hurt people. And

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<v Speaker 3>yet they have said nothing. What a bunch of pathetic squibs.

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<v Speaker 3>They gave up their power to bureaucrats then, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>running scared now. I'll have more to say on that

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<v Speaker 3>in my column in the Advertiser tomorrow. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>the worst state through all of it to was Victoria,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know I lived there for some of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we learned a couple of weeks ago, Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>Andrews has been rewarded with the chairmanship of Youth Mental

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<v Speaker 3>Health Outfit Origin, where he'll pocket a tidy seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>grand a year. The man who shut all the schools

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<v Speaker 3>and did more to hurt youth meant mental health and

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else in the country basically well. Thanks to the

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<v Speaker 3>great work of Damon Johnston in The Australian, we saw

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<v Speaker 3>today that Victorians who didn't like lockdowns were called pigheaded

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<v Speaker 3>no at All's in an email to the outfit that

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<v Speaker 3>the state government was paying to do research on what

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<v Speaker 3>people thought of those COVID restrictions.

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<v Speaker 1>The Department of Premier and Cabinet.

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<v Speaker 3>Fought for eighteen months to stop that email being released,

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<v Speaker 3>and thank goodness that Damon Johnston didn't let up. They

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<v Speaker 3>argued it should be kept secret because it could disclose opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>advice or deliberations between public servants and ministers and it

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<v Speaker 3>was contrary to the public interest. Now they say it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't written by a public servant or a politician, despite

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<v Speaker 3>that being the justification for why it shouldn't be released,

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<v Speaker 3>and they won't say who they claim.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually wrote it.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the arrogance of pandemic governments at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>especially Victoria. This is what they really thought of you,

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<v Speaker 3>you freethinking people who didn't go along with the idea

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<v Speaker 3>that you should be locked up twenty three hours a

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<v Speaker 3>day and have a curfew at night and only be

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<v Speaker 3>able to go five kilometers from your home and have

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<v Speaker 3>to wear a mask outside. And that same arrogance is

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<v Speaker 3>why Andrews and his mates won't answer the report that

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<v Speaker 3>came out this week. Now, the US election just days away. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you're excited. I know I'm certainly excited. You'd remember,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, these comments yesterday from Joe Biden about Trump supporters.

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<v Speaker 7>Only garbage I see floating down there is his quarters.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Trump hit back today in the best way possible

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<v Speaker 3>with a garbage truck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like deplorable veil. This is the deplorable vailery. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, Honestly, I just love that there's some fun in

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<v Speaker 3>politics again. I mean, here we are in Australia, going

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<v Speaker 3>on about whether the PM is effectively corrupt for getting

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<v Speaker 3>flight upgrades, and over in the US there slinging Marden

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<v Speaker 3>around in garbage trucks. The content is just chef's kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>He then went from the truck to a rally in

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay in Wisconsin, still wearing his Highvey's vest.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't lead America if you don't love Americans.

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<v Speaker 8>It's true.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't be president if you hate the American people,

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<v Speaker 9>which I believe they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the problem for Harris here is that she still

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<v Speaker 3>has to show some kind of respect to her president.

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<v Speaker 3>He is still her boss, don't forget. So she has

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<v Speaker 3>to find a way to say that she doesn't think

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<v Speaker 3>half the country is garbage without effectively saying that Biden

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<v Speaker 3>is an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this was her attempt. I'm not sure it quite

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<v Speaker 1>hit the mark.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all, he clarified his comments, But let me

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<v Speaker 8>be clara. I finally disagree with any criticism of people

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<v Speaker 8>based on who they vote for.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? Are you repudiating your president or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that one.

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<v Speaker 3>And speaking of Biden, we know he has done some

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<v Speaker 3>weird things. You know, he's got this thing about stiffing

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<v Speaker 3>people's hair, and trying to kiss people and generally being

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a creep. And never forget the one

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<v Speaker 3>about kids stroking his legs and sitting on his lap.

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<v Speaker 10>And by the way, you know, I sit on the

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<v Speaker 10>stand and it get hard. I got liner, I got

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<v Speaker 10>hairy legs, that turn that that that turn blonde in

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<v Speaker 10>the sun. And the kids used to come up and

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<v Speaker 10>reach in the pool and rub my leg down.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was training that.

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<v Speaker 10>Whit's the hair come back up again and look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I learned about roaches.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned about kids jumping on my lap.

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<v Speaker 10>And I've loved kids jumping on my lap.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, blind me, Charlie. Anyway, he's added to the

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<v Speaker 1>repertoire today.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the old joke, I love kids, but I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't eat a whole one. You might remember he gave

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<v Speaker 3>it ago a year ago. Well, he decided to have

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<v Speaker 3>another shot today. He had a Halloween party at the

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<v Speaker 3>White House and he decided to chomp on a baby

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<v Speaker 3>dressed as a chicken. Now forgive me, but you might

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<v Speaker 3>say it was a cocker. I think this was probably

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<v Speaker 3>the look he had after he realized that wasn't dinner. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>the left in America seemed to think that if a

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<v Speaker 3>woman votes for Trump, it must be because she's under

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<v Speaker 3>the thumb of some controlling husband who makes her vote

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<v Speaker 3>for Trump. Noah, a woman couldn't possibly vote for Trump

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<v Speaker 3>of her own volition, could she? Women must vote for

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<v Speaker 3>other women. Take a look at this ad from campaign

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<v Speaker 3>group Vote Common Good, voiced by Julia Roberts.

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<v Speaker 7>You're a current, honey, in the one place in America

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<v Speaker 7>where women still have a right to choose. You can

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<v Speaker 7>vote anywhere you want and no one will ever know.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you make a rape chory?

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<v Speaker 7>Sheridan, Honey, remember what happens in the booth stays in

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<v Speaker 7>the booman for Harris Will, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, what did you make the right choice? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Did, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I genuinely thought that was a skit the

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<v Speaker 3>first time I watched it. And they may well be worried,

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<v Speaker 3>because in twenty twenty, married women voted for Trump over

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<v Speaker 3>Biden Harris fifty two to forty seven percent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>as if women don't know that they can vote for

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<v Speaker 3>who they want, that's the point of a secret ballot,

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<v Speaker 3>But it goes to show you exactly what Harris and

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<v Speaker 3>her mates think of conservative men, that they're controlling scumbags

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<v Speaker 3>who forced their wives to vote a certain way, and

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<v Speaker 3>that conservative women mustn't really think that way. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>under the thumb of their awful husbands. You garbage, or

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<v Speaker 3>you'd some kind of domestic abuser.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we move on to other things, there's a great

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes documentary of the Trump campaign that's been

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<v Speaker 3>made by an outfit called Asha Can Studios. You can

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<v Speaker 3>find it on x It's called Art of the Surge.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Trump reacting live to Harris's address at the

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<v Speaker 3>DNC a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank thank.

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<v Speaker 7>You, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>She grazys, thank you, thank.

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<v Speaker 8>You, thank you so very much, thank you everyone, Thank

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<v Speaker 8>you everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. I've mostly thirty five.

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<v Speaker 8>From India to California with an unshakable dream to be

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<v Speaker 8>the scientists.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people are watching?

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<v Speaker 7>Can you tell how many dangers and how many people

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<v Speaker 7>are watching?

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<v Speaker 6>She's talking about how great San Francisco was before she

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<v Speaker 6>destroyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>What you say, d is what you get.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a really good insight into how his

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<v Speaker 3>campaign is really him. It's run and directed by him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all the genius of Trump. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>you could say the same for Harris. Now a great

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<v Speaker 3>exclusive from our own Caroline Marcus. Today, the federal government

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<v Speaker 3>awarded a seven million dollar contract to an LGBTQ lobby

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<v Speaker 3>group for a women's cancer campaign using non gendered language.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have a cervix, the test can save your life.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a controversial women's cancer campaign which refers to people

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<v Speaker 11>who have a cervix instead of women and front holes. Now,

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<v Speaker 11>documents obtained under freedom of information reveal the federal government

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<v Speaker 11>awarded a contract worth seven million dollars to the lobby

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<v Speaker 11>group behind it to roll out the cervical screening campaign

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<v Speaker 11>to women across the country. Opposition Senator Claire Chandler says

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<v Speaker 11>taxpayers deserve to know why ACN was given the money

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<v Speaker 11>when the campaign was primarily trying to reach First Nations

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<v Speaker 11>and culturally diverse women.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, seriously, we have lost the plot. Who actually

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<v Speaker 3>wants this stuff? I mean, this is what confuses me

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<v Speaker 3>so much when we have these cases. You know, all

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<v Speaker 3>this language like chest feeder and birthing parent and front hole.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it sounds like something a kid did say

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<v Speaker 3>in the school yard, person with a cervix. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the number of people out there who must think that

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<v Speaker 3>they are actually offended by women or breastfeeding or mother

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever it is must be so minuscule, because you're talking,

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<v Speaker 3>presumably about transgender people, who are already a tiny fraction

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<v Speaker 3>of the population.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it must be a fraction of that fraction.

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<v Speaker 3>That is actually offended by terms that apply to almost

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<v Speaker 3>the whole population. A campaign aimed at women. Referring to

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<v Speaker 3>women is not exclusionary if you're a transgender man, a

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<v Speaker 3>a biological woman that I'm sure you can use your

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<v Speaker 3>brains to work out whether or not you have a

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<v Speaker 3>cervix and ought to be screened for cervical cancer. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to change the whole language to cater to

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<v Speaker 3>that tiny minority. But this is why it matters and

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<v Speaker 3>why it is it is worth bringing up every time

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<v Speaker 3>we see one of these examples.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people might say.

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<v Speaker 3>Who cares, it's just inclusive language.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they mean. Well, it's not inclusive language.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exclusive language.

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<v Speaker 1>And deliberately so.

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<v Speaker 3>The radical left say they do this stuff to include

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<v Speaker 3>transgender people, but it's not about transgender people. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>the vanguard, the cloak to hide behind. Taking away words

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<v Speaker 3>like women or mother or vagina are actually about taking

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<v Speaker 3>the specialness of femininity and being a woman away from women,

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<v Speaker 3>because women by and large want to be mothers, and

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<v Speaker 3>mothers buy and large part of families, and that's the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest barrier to the Left being able to achieve its

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<v Speaker 3>ultimate socialist dream. The family is an impediment to who

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<v Speaker 3>they really want to be running your lives and your

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<v Speaker 3>children's lives the state. They're trying to change the language

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<v Speaker 3>so that we forget that mothers and women actually exist.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is to subjugate women, not include them, to

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<v Speaker 3>let men infiltrate women's spaces, to convince us that what

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<v Speaker 3>is plainly and obviously true is actually wrong, so they

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<v Speaker 3>can replace it with something better, or at least what

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<v Speaker 3>they think is better, which of course is state control.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when they say that language matters, it does matter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they're trying to change it, not so they

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<v Speaker 3>can be inclusive, but so they can change the culture,

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<v Speaker 3>which brings me to this insane yarn out of the

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<v Speaker 3>UK that councils with the help of toy manufacturer Mattel

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<v Speaker 3>of course they make Barbie dolls etc. And a BBC

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<v Speaker 3>education consultant. They're telling parents to get kids to play

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<v Speaker 3>Monopoly with more money and to give them less time

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<v Speaker 3>in jail so they can learn about racism. Now, I

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<v Speaker 3>promise you I'm not making this up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently this was all written up back in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>after the Black Lives Matter riots, but it's only just

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<v Speaker 3>come to light that British councils are distributing this guide

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<v Speaker 3>called how to Raise Anti Racist Children. It says that

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<v Speaker 3>parents of children up to three years old should play

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<v Speaker 3>music from different cultures and avoid only singing songs steeped

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<v Speaker 3>in white culture. That apparently means you have to avoid

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<v Speaker 3>barbar black sheep, and you should also read picture books

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<v Speaker 3>and play with dolls that represent black characters. For kids

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<v Speaker 3>age three to six, it says to ensure your bookshelves

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<v Speaker 3>include stories which address racism and stories featuring black protagonists,

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<v Speaker 3>and to introduce natural conversations about race and teach your

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<v Speaker 3>child what racism is. Between six and nine, you should

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<v Speaker 3>ask your child school about how their curriculum can hovers

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<v Speaker 3>black history and then the ps to resistance. Between nine

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<v Speaker 3>and twelve. You should use board game metaphors to explain

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<v Speaker 3>white supremacy and privilege, with the example of Monopoly with

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<v Speaker 3>adapted rules, which allows white players to start with more

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<v Speaker 3>money of avoid going to jail and get a head

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<v Speaker 3>start on buying property. God help us, and just quickly

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<v Speaker 3>before we get to the panel, someone who might have

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<v Speaker 3>wished God had helped him a young chap by the

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<v Speaker 3>name of Connor Foskin. Well, I call him a young chap.

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<v Speaker 3>He's actually older than me, he's twenty eight. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>he was busted with drugs at the Listen Out Music

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<v Speaker 3>festival in Sydney earlier this month. Well, he came before

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<v Speaker 3>Magistrate Michael Barcoe in the Waverley Local Court in Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>today and mister Barco, I have to say, said what

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<v Speaker 3>we were all thinking. He said this to the fella.

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<v Speaker 3>And excuse the language here, I'm assuming the music was

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<v Speaker 3>sahiit was at shiit because you, for some reason needed

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<v Speaker 3>to take drugs to enjoy it. Exactly, bravo, Magistrate Michael Barco.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've always wondered how awful the music must

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<v Speaker 3>be that all these kids need to be whacked out

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<v Speaker 3>on drugs to actually enjoy or understand it. He went on,

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't get enough vibes out of the music, couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get enough vibes from the legalized drinks. You take one

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<v Speaker 3>of these pills, it's not the wrong cocaine, and you're dead.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to enjoy ourselves without having to take drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know why the drug dogs are the happiest

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and fittest in the world because they come to the

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Eastern suburbs they get a treat, a tennis ball for

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<v Speaker 3>finding drugs. The arrogance and the naiveties and the stupidity

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<v Speaker 3>in that I'll walk past this drug dog and no

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<v Speaker 3>one will know because it's in my underpants. Honestly, send

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>this man to the High Court. We've all thought it.

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>He's just said it to their faces. Well, let's return

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<v Speaker 3>now to upgrade Olbow joining me his form of Victorian

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<v Speaker 3>Liberal Party President Michael Kroger and Christy McSweeney from the

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<v Speaker 3>pr Council. Good to have you both here tonight. Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get over that they're now trying to say

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<v Speaker 3>it's all good because Dutton's done exactly the same thing.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 3>They are very different cases. Mister Dutton's office calling up

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of his saying I literally can't get a

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<v Speaker 3>plane to go to a barley bombing memorial.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you help me out?

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<v Speaker 3>Is not the same as the Transport minister taking a

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<v Speaker 3>gift from the biggest stakeholder in his portfolio.

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course it's not.

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<v Speaker 12>But what Labour trying to do is just muddy the waters,

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<v Speaker 12>throw a bit of mud here, you know, just confuse everybody.

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<v Speaker 12>So if so, all the public thinks, oh, they're all

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<v Speaker 12>the same, well they're not all the same because alban

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<v Speaker 12>Easy and the media are obsessed with rightly so did

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<v Speaker 12>he make calls to the Quantus office and request upgrades?

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<v Speaker 12>And that's still very murky in reading between the lines.

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<v Speaker 12>There's a lot more to come out on this. Samantha

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 12>Maiden's stories should be very concerning for the government today

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.719
<v Speaker 12>because she doesn't buy any of this stuff. So and

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 12>Quantus people saying it was well known that they're in

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<v Speaker 12>touch with Albanese's office.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, A lot more to come out on that.

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<v Speaker 12>But the huge difference, right, the huge difference the media's

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<v Speaker 12>got to concentrate on, is Alberniazi took upgrades from quantas

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<v Speaker 12>that I'm a member of the Gaman's Lantartow was declaredvery

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 12>time I took about Contus, he took upgrades from Quantus

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<v Speaker 12>whilst he was the minister and he was regulating Quantus.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean he should have been sacked by the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 12>rad and Gillard at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He should have been sacked.

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<v Speaker 12>And now it's eleven years on, but quite frankly, what

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<v Speaker 12>he did is is completely unacceptable. It would have been

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<v Speaker 12>a breach of any ministerial code and the fact that

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<v Speaker 12>he wasn't sacked is only because they no one probably

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<v Speaker 12>looked at the time. But this is a world away

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<v Speaker 12>from backbenches or Bridget mackenzie or Peter Darton or even

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<v Speaker 12>the labor backbenches. I mean, that's a completely different category, mate,

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<v Speaker 12>completely different category exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're trying to make this equivalence that anyone who's

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 3>taken an upgrade for the quants, you're the same as

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the Transport minister taking the upgrade and Christy you had

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 3>in Melbourne today, the Prime Minister had a meeting ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of a fundraiser tonight with all his ministers there and

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<v Speaker 3>he walked in, as I said earlier in the program,

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<v Speaker 3>and basically said, oh woe is me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're treating me so badly.

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<v Speaker 3>The Coalition gets a much easier run in the media.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I must be.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking at different newspapers and media to what he's looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course then ministers have linked this information, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least people in the room have leaked this information

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<v Speaker 3>to the press, which kind of gives you an idea

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 3>of what they're thinking of alban easy. But it proves

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<v Speaker 3>that this is cutting through because people are looking at

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<v Speaker 3>it and going this bloke is only in it for himself.

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<v Speaker 13>I think, with the cost of living inflation the way

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<v Speaker 13>it is, the cost of flights for anybody who's even

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<v Speaker 13>considering taking their children on school holiday, flying to visit

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 13>relatives and so forth, people are looking at the money

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<v Speaker 13>that's been charged by airlines in recent years, and they,

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<v Speaker 13>of course say it's post COVID and we're recovering and.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a staff issue.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, it's a staff issue because you sacked a great

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<v Speaker 13>load of staff and refused to have them back and

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 13>outsaurce them to cheaper contractors.

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<v Speaker 14>That's a whole other discussion.

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<v Speaker 13>But people are looking at that saying, gosh, this is

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<v Speaker 13>really expensive for me, a hard working family to fly

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 13>and here is the Prime Minister of the nation with

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<v Speaker 13>a history of decades of taking upgrades when he was

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<v Speaker 13>regulating the airline industry. Yes, very different from backbenches. And

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<v Speaker 13>I think there's an awareness at all politicians except upgrades

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 13>and accept gifts they are declared. But when you are

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<v Speaker 13>in charge of regulating that's which is a jewopoly and

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<v Speaker 13>has been a jeopoly for most of its time, that's very,

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 13>very murky. And we can tell that the Prime Minister

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 13>knows it's murky because of the carefully worded statement around

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<v Speaker 13>who had contact with Pond just in his office. That

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 13>will tell you everything you need to know. And yes,

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<v Speaker 13>of course it's going to be fed from the inside

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<v Speaker 13>from labor because they are looking at the Prime minister's

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<v Speaker 13>judgment buying a four point three million dollar house and

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 13>various other activities, and of course the failure of the

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<v Speaker 13>voice going we can't let this continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he says they did it to rub in terms

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 3>of you're trying to bring the tool poppy down. He

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<v Speaker 3>should give great thanks to Run for the changes he

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<v Speaker 3>made to the ability to replace a labor leader.

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<v Speaker 1>I think right now now.

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<v Speaker 3>You both live in Melbourne, though Christie of course you're

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 3>not in Melbourne tonight, but I lived there for a.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Little while, went through.

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<v Speaker 3>The awful lockdown YouTube took it a lot harder than

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<v Speaker 3>I did. This email that was in the Australian Today,

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<v Speaker 3>And good on Damon Johnston for fighting this for eighteen

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 3>months through the FOI process to get hold of this

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 3>email that had been sent from someone The Department of

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Premier in Cabinet won't tell us who sent this email,

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>but it was sent by someone apparently not a public

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 3>servant or a politician, to the outfit that was doing

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 3>research on what people thought of the COVID restrictions, describing

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>people who didn't like the COVID restrictions in Victoria as pigheaded,

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<v Speaker 3>no at alls, no wonder Michael. They wanted to keep

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>this secret in fourty eighteen months to do so because

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<v Speaker 3>it tells us exactly what the Andrews government thought of Victorians.

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<v Speaker 12>Well well under Damon Johnson for fighting Frida eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to get a.

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<v Speaker 12>Real job one day, by the way, if you can

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 12>spend eight eight months on that, But well done to

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<v Speaker 12>him for uncarrying.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>He's doing God's work, mate, Look.

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>He's doing the Lord's work. And all praise to him.

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<v Speaker 12>This this, this is a very important email because it

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<v Speaker 12>shows the contempt that the Andrews government, and Andrews in

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<v Speaker 12>particular have for ordinary had for ordinary Victorians.

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've seen that that South.

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<v Speaker 12>Australian Health spokesman head on the football that you showed before.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah.

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 12>This just showed the contempt. It was like Andrew's in,

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 12>we know everything you you know, you fools, you tosses

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 12>out there in the public.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>You've got to do what you're told.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 12>When you're banning golf, banning people doing things outdoors, U

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 12>and on it goes no health advice, on on on

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 12>the justification for closing schools when kids were mostly largely,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 12>almost universally untouched by COVID, et cetera, et cetera. This

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 12>is the arrogance of the elites, right, we know everything

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 12>you you nom's out there, you know nothing.

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 2>You just do what you're told.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 12>Don't go to the playground, put a mask on when

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 12>you're allowed to play golf, even on you're outid I

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 12>don't touch the fland stick blah blah blah. So you know,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 12>good on them, for good on, damon for exposing this

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 12>and as I said, it's just an example of the

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<v Speaker 12>of the wide gap between the working middle class, the

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 12>ordinary person who's got a lot of common sense, and

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 12>the rich, wealthy elites unaffected by lockdowns by the way,

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 12>in a sense that none of their salaries were affected,

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 12>none lost their jobs.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>You know they yeah, they were, They were all fine.

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>They are all fine.

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 12>So the you know, these toxic you know know it

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 12>all elites raining on the parade of the ordinary working

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 12>middle classes in this country another perfect example of that, mate.

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You want to talk about a pig heatd know it all? Christy.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I would have thought Daniel Andrews fit that bill pretty

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 3>well during COVID, But where has he been this week

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 3>and all the other pandemic premiers. As I said at

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 3>the top of the show, the report that came out

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 3>this week very clearly laid out how the states got

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>it wrong, and not one of them has come out

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>this week and said we're very sorry, we apologize.

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<v Speaker 13>It's try Busy Caleb addressing the momentous challenge ahead of him,

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 13>which is improving the mental health of young Victorians, which

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 13>of course he was almost solely responsible for ruining during COVID.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 13>And we know from psychologists, school principles and parents that

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 13>the lag effect of the development of teenagers and people

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 13>who were facing key moments in their life and their

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 13>higher education, schooling and their first years of university and

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 13>even children is absolutely so damaged by unnecessary and even

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 13>the police in Victoria made mention that the curfew at

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 13>a PM that was not implemented or suggested by the police,

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 13>that was a decision of the premier and he blamed

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 13>the police. The five kilometer radius that was also a

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 13>decision of the premier acting under their health advice, not

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 13>the always. And so we have seen this state of

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 13>young people and people in Victoria that is still.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Recovering exactly and they haven't been held to account. They

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>need to be held to account. After the break, Michael

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 3>and Christie will be back and we'll talk about the

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 3>fact that we've got a new government in Queensland. What

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 3>do you reckon is the biggest issue for the Christopher

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Ley government Apparently if they have too many people called Dave,

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 3>would you believe it that more? After the break, Welcome

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 3>back to Paul Murray Live. Caleb bond in for the

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Great Man tonight. Too's currently somewhere over the Pacific Ocean

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 3>on his way to the United States. And there's one

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.959
<v Speaker 3>thing he's asked me to do tonight, which I'm more

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 3>than happy to do, and that's talk about Michelle mccranaor

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 3>now tomorrow she starts her run from Adelaide to Port Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a thousand kilometers to raise awareness and hopefully a

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>million dollars for the Stillbirth Foundation Australia.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Take a look.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing the running, but I can't achieve all these

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 5>goals on my own. I can't raise the million dollars

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 5>on my own. I need the people of Australia to

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 5>jump on board and be spreading this awareness of my

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 5>journey of what I'm trying to achieve. Getting the million

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 5>dollars in that's going to make a difference for all

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 5>these little babies that should be here with us today.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 3>If you want to help Michelle and of course Paul Murray,

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 3>a cause very close to his heart, head to still

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 3>running dot com dot au. That's still running dot com

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 3>dot auan please give generously. Well, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 3>the US now. As I was talking before, Michael and.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Christy back with me.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Trump today in the garbage track was reminded me a

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 3>bit of Nick Xenophon, of course, back in the days

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 3>when he was floating around in Australian politics.

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, proper stunt type stuff.

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 3>But this is something that is a real danger for

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 3>how Harris now and has derailed the last week of

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 3>the campaign. As if things weren't already going badly enough

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 3>for her, just the wind totally taken out of her sales,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>and then Biden dotri old Biden comes through Michael and

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 3>just drops a bomb that she didn't need at the

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 3>last moment.

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<v Speaker 12>No, he's put in a classic performance. Just imagine if

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 12>he was still a candidate mate, how the pulse would

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 12>be if Biden had been if Biden had been in

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 12>the candid for the last three weeks, I mean the

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 12>three months, I mean seriously, but no, he's had a shocker.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 12>What effect will it have, It's very hard to know.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 12>It doesn't help the Democrats obviously. It probably gets more

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 12>people out to vote who were maybe not interested in

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 12>voting or inclined to Trump but not inclined enough to

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 12>go out and vote. Having been referred to as basically

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<v Speaker 12>human garbage. It will stimulate people to come out and vote,

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<v Speaker 12>But will it affect the old result Probably a little bit.

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<v Speaker 12>It's an amazing election. I mean, you've got CNN, Who've

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<v Speaker 12>got a poll yesterday showing that Harris is five percent

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 12>in front in Michigan and six percent in front in Wisconsin.

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 12>The betting markets have got Trump favorite in six of

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 12>the seven swing states. She's just in front in Michigan.

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 12>And that's why I find the whole thing hard to read.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 12>Gut instinct tells you that Trump's going to win, and

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 12>guttingsin tells you that Trump's going to win win all

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<v Speaker 12>those seven states.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason is the reason.

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<v Speaker 12>Is that in the twenty twenty election and the twenty

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<v Speaker 12>sixteen election, and the average of those seven states, they

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 12>underestimated Trump's vote between two and seven percent, two and

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 12>seven percent in every one of those swing states, or

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 12>an average about four percent. Now, if that's repeated, he

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<v Speaker 12>wins easily. What I don't know is how much the

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 12>polsters have facted in the shy Trump voter effect, how

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<v Speaker 12>much how much they increased Trump's vote in some of

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<v Speaker 12>those states to make up for the shy.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump vote effect.

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<v Speaker 12>That's what we don't know, which is why you know

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 12>you wouldn't call it for Trump now with any great certainty,

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 12>although he does look the winner.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and of course d Kevin rad Christie'll be a

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 3>bit worried if Trump does win. Reporting in the news

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<v Speaker 3>Court papers today that within diplomatic circles there's already talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the possible need to get rid of him if

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<v Speaker 3>Trump wins, because of course he's been quite critical of Trump.

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>In the past. The suggestion is maybe Tony Abbott would.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Be good for the job.

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 13>Our bad news for the Labor Party. They'll have to

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<v Speaker 13>bring Kevin Rudd home right at a pivotal time when

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<v Speaker 13>we're sorting six months out from an election.

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 2>We don't want him to do that. We don't want him.

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<v Speaker 14>They are going to signial prices of Kevin Rudd's ability

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<v Speaker 14>to be the best man on the ground in Washington

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<v Speaker 14>for Australia until that election is done in Dustin Caleb

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<v Speaker 14>and Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my tip at your quick prediction, Christie.

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<v Speaker 12>Caleb Caleb for Caleb before we before we get off

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 12>this subject, very important. Joe Hockey, who was of course

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 12>the ambassador, did an excellent job. An outstanding job by Hockey.

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 12>As we know Hockey and Rudder quite friendly, Joe. If

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<v Speaker 12>you're watching tonight, if the Orange Man wins, do not

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<v Speaker 12>ring the White House and.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Say he's okay.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 12>Rud's ok mate, Just keep him there right, Do not

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<v Speaker 12>do that, Joe. The American people have enough trouble without

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.959
<v Speaker 12>having Kevin Rudd representing our country over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true, but we.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't necessarily want him back here either. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>strange equation. We don't and very quickly though your prediction,

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<v Speaker 3>who do you think it's going to be?

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Christy Trump?

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<v Speaker 13>If there was ever a week to put old sleeping

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 13>Joe back in their basement and pack him off to

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<v Speaker 13>bed by eight pm, it would have been this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, now very quickly, David chris a fully of course,

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 3>has to unveil a new cabinet, though he's previously said

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that it'll remain the same as it was before the

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Queensland election. But the reporting today in The Guardian I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get over Ben's me.

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>One of their columnists.

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Has said that four Davids and two Nigels can Chrisophoolly

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 3>deliver a modern and inclusive government. He says that in

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>opposition twenty nine of the lnpmps were white men. The

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 3>rest were white women. Of the seats already called after

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 3>the state election, nine to fifteen new llnpnps are men,

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 3>two are new David's now for in total and two

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<v Speaker 3>nigels very quickly. Michael, First, that is the most important thing,

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 3>isn't it too many white men?

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 12>Well, of course it's the most important thing. And if

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<v Speaker 12>all of the polling and that election showed that that

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<v Speaker 12>was the most important issue facing people. So no, perhaps

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.720
<v Speaker 12>Christoph Foley or to pick people on the basis of merit.

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 12>Of course he's got to have some diversity obviously, but

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 12>I think people who can deal with youth crime and

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<v Speaker 12>the massive exploding debt in Queensland a property.

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>His priorities five seconds each, Winners and losers.

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Michael loser clearly elbow.

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<v Speaker 12>He's had a shocker and Paul Murray's the winner because

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 12>he'll be going over to see if made over there

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 12>and it could be a good day next Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 13>Christy, I'm going to give a shout out to the

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<v Speaker 13>Steelbirth run for a million dollars as well, Cayleb. But

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 13>I think Michelle is doing an incredible thing. Decades ago,

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 13>women had to suffer in silence, and families had to

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 13>suffer in silence and weren't able to discuss these issues,

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 13>and it wasn't seen as anything important. So that is

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 13>fantastic that she's doing that, and fantastic that here at

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.240
<v Speaker 13>scott we're raising awareness of that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, Christy Bigsweeney and Michael Kroger, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for your time. Coming up next, the man who survived

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 3>being hit by a car going one hundred and sivty

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<v Speaker 3>kilometers an hour. You have to hear this unbelievable story.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go away. Welcome back to Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Bond here of course, while Paul travels to the

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<v Speaker 3>US for a great week of shows for you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty to talk about over there. But before we.

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<v Speaker 3>Go tonight, I have to tell you about an extraordinary story.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty one, Ben Hyde was hit by a

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 3>cargoing one hundred and seventy kilometers an hour and despite

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 3>being burnt, he was on fire in that crash.

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>He lived now.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben was at the time the deputy editor of my

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 3>old paper, The Advertiser. I've got to say he's one

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 3>of the best people I've ever worked for and He's

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<v Speaker 3>turned his story into a new documentary called While I

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 3>was Sleeping Take a Look.

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<v Speaker 9>I should have been on my way home to my

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 9>loving family. Instead, I was hit by a speeding drug

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 9>driver traveling at one hundred and seventy kilometers an hour

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 9>Adelaide's CBD. I was trapped, I was unconscious, I was

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 9>on fire, and I was helpless. He is only through

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 9>the amazing work of Good Samaritans, emergency services personnel and

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 9>an incredible team of doctors at the Royal Adelaide Hospital

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 9>that I survived that night. They are the ones to

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 9>a best place to tell my story while I was

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 9>in a coma. My name is Ben Hyde, and this

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.720
<v Speaker 9>is what happened while I was sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>And you saw a little snippet of it. E it

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 3>just extraordinary, Ben Hyde joins us. Now, Betty, it's good

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 3>to be back with you again, albeit through the TV screen.

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<v Speaker 3>What made you want to relive such a traumatic moment

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 3>and tell the story in a docco.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Hey, Caleb, thanks for the kind words too. Look,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 9>it's a really interesting one for myself. I don't have

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 9>any memory whatsoever of the point of the crash or

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 9>anywhere up until about a week later after I'd come

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 9>out of a coma and what not owing to quite

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 9>a significant brain injury that I also suffered. So the

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 9>journalist in me was quite keen to I had a

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 9>lot of intrigue about what had happened. And I'd also

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 9>heard anecdotally via my wife and some of the police

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 9>that were in touch early on in the investigation, that

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 9>there was quite a remarkable story of how I was

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 9>actually rescued from the crumpled wreck of my car and revived.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 9>So I felt kind of compelled to go back and

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 9>piece together those gaps in the story and in my

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 9>mind that I that I had, and also try to

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 9>track down these people who were so critical in my

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.439
<v Speaker 9>in my time of absolute need.

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 3>I'll come back to meeting those people in a minute.

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 3>But today is the launch date of the documentary. People

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:48.240
<v Speaker 3>can go on and watch it on the Advertiser website

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>or through any of the other.

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>News Corp mass Hit websites.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 3>But you mentioned your wife before, and not only is

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 3>it the launch date of the doco, today is actually

0:45:56.680 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 3>your wedding anniversary. So apologies to missus Hyde for for

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>keeping you here talking to me, But I.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Mean it must be days like today where you go.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 3>My God, that could have gone so differently, and yet

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I am still here, able to spend time with my

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>family and celebrate things like my wedding anniversary. You know,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 3>it could happen to any of us, but it really

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 3>puts it into perspective, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, right, Caleb. I mean, you've

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 9>hit the nail on the head there. It has not

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 9>lost on me, how I mean. I was the definition

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 9>of the unluckiest person when to get caught up in

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 9>all of this. So I was just innocently going about

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 9>my business going home.

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Home from work.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 9>But everything that happened after that point was the odds

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 9>were ridiculously stacked in my favor, I feel. And for

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 9>me to get out of that car, that burning car, alive,

0:46:56.600 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 9>albeit just clinging to life, but then to be to

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 9>be revived at the scene, and then to have some

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 9>amazing medical work done to me at the rah, It's

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 9>not lost on me how lucky I am. And now

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 9>as a result, how just how much I appreciate, you know,

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 9>things in life which which are critically important. You know,

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 9>hence why you do a documentary premiere on your wedding anniverse,

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:29.240
<v Speaker 9>But no no, not true. But you know, I wouldn't

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 9>be here without Tanya, my beautiful wife, and our boys

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 9>Oliver and Ari like they have been the absolute keys

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 9>and critical to my to my ongoing recovery.

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Going through that experience of finding these people who helped

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 3>you and saved your life and and meeting them and

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 3>thanking them, that must have been extraordinary.

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 9>And this is where you know I am. I haven't thankfully,

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 9>I haven't had to grapple with any real post traumatic

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 9>responses relating to that really graphic period of my injury

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 9>and recovery, purely because I just have zero memory of

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 9>it and I can't get it back. So the fact

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 9>that I've avoided that has meant that this whole process

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 9>has just been a constant reminder in a how lucky

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 9>I am. B the incredible displays of heroism and bravery

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 9>and everything that was on display at the scene, and

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 9>see the skill and expertise of our medical experts who

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 9>were able to put me back together again. And that's

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 9>been probably you know, it was incredibly cathartic for me,

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 9>and you know, one of the most humbling experiences of

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 9>my life.

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.399
<v Speaker 3>I can imagine and look none of us really think

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 3>about it when we drive to work or home from work,

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 3>which is what you were doing when you were hit,

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 3>that this could happen, but of course it could happen

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 3>to any of us at any time. I think it's

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 3>an important reminder not only of the futility of life,

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 3>but also that we all have to take great care

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 3>on the road. Ben Hid, thank you so much for

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 3>joining me tonight, and of course you can watch that

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 3>documentary at the Advertiser dot com dot au.

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>That's it for me.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Stay in tuned now for the late debate. It's a

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 3>great show, but fear warning, the host I like the

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 3>most isn't on.

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Tonight, but I think you'll still enjoy it. Stick around