Speaker 1: From the Sky News Center.
Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome. I'm Caleb Bond.
Speaker 3: It's Beido number two in for Paul tonight. He's on
Speaker 3: his way to the USA, of course, for the election.
Speaker 3: Plenty more to come from him next week. But in
Speaker 3: the meantime, pour yourself a drink and settle in for.
Speaker 1: A ripper hour. I'll have Michael Kroger.
Speaker 3: And Christie McSweeney with me soon, and I'll talk to
Speaker 3: an old maid of mine who's made a docco about
Speaker 3: patching fire in a horror car crash.
Speaker 1: And living to tell the tale. Well, the whole Alban.
Speaker 3: Eazy Quantus thing just gets weirder and weirder and weirder.
Speaker 3: Now I've been calling him Albert Freebee. Paul of course
Speaker 3: has been calling him upgrade Albow, and he's clearly worried
Speaker 3: this stuff is sticking.
Speaker 1: That's because it is.
Speaker 3: He told his ministers at a meeting in Melbourne today
Speaker 3: that he was the victim of an unfair media campaign
Speaker 3: and that Labor was held to a higher standard than
Speaker 3: the Coalition. What a classic look over there. Oh, why
Speaker 3: is the media so unfair on poor old Elbow?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
Speaker 3: He must really be off with the pixies if he
Speaker 3: believes that one god.
Speaker 2: Fly with me, will fly, We'll fly.
Speaker 4: Hey, God, let my away.
Speaker 3: Actually, after this week he may well be thinking more
Speaker 3: along the lines of this sinnatratude.
Speaker 5: Fly me to the moon, let me play up there
Speaker 5: with those stars.
Speaker 3: At least he wouldn't have to deal with us up there.
Speaker 3: And well, if he can get a quantus upgrade on
Speaker 3: the way, why not. Now we know he said all
Speaker 3: this stuff at the meeting because a number of people
Speaker 3: who were in the meeting leaked it to the Nine Papers.
Speaker 3: And when ministers start leaking against their prime minister, you
Speaker 3: know things are not going well. One MP who was
Speaker 3: at the meeting quoted him as saying, the same thing
Speaker 3: happened to Kevin Rudd, the same thing happened to Julia Gillard,
Speaker 3: and then Bill Shorten, and.
Speaker 1: Now me I mean boohoo.
Speaker 3: Another person who was there told the Nine Papers that
Speaker 3: it was quote a massive sook up. In The Australian,
Speaker 3: they wrote. One person at the meeting told The Australian
Speaker 3: the monologue was even worse than his widely panned press
Speaker 3: conference a day earlier, accusing the Prime Minister of rambling
Speaker 3: without having a clear objective of what his ministers should
Speaker 3: take away from the comments.
Speaker 1: Oh dear.
Speaker 3: Now, this morning Ben Fordham on two GB read out
Speaker 3: an exchange he had with Albinizi where he denied talking
Speaker 3: to anyone at Quantas about getting upgrades.
Speaker 4: Crucially, as of this morning, he has denied ever talking
Speaker 4: to Alan Joyce about flight upgrades or personal travel. We
Speaker 4: asked the PM if he's discussed all of this with
Speaker 4: Alan Joyce. The PM replied, no, I haven't spoken to
Speaker 4: Alan in a very long time.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: We asked the Prime Minister to join us on on
Speaker 4: air today, but he told us he's unavailable. Why he's
Speaker 4: catching a plane.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, isn't it.
Speaker 3: So he's finally denied it nearly a week later. Now,
Speaker 3: remember yesterday he put out a very carefully worded statement
Speaker 3: saying he'd never called Alan Joyce about an upgrade. But
Speaker 3: he certainly didn't deny talking to anyone else. Now, if
Speaker 3: he never asked anyone for an upgrade, then why didn't
Speaker 3: he just say so from the outset? You know, I
Speaker 3: can understand if he can't remember every upgrade he's ever
Speaker 3: been given, because yes, lots of politicians get them, but
Speaker 3: surely you'd remember whether you asked for one, because that's
Speaker 3: not the usual course of action. And yet until now
Speaker 3: he said no such thing. But he expects us to
Speaker 3: believe him now. And of course Sharry revealed last night
Speaker 3: that the QUANTUS then Group Executive for Government and International Affairs,
Speaker 3: Andrew Parker, had personally handled Albaneze's upgrades and that they
Speaker 3: were mates. He still has an answered that one, but
Speaker 3: today it was time.
Speaker 1: For a distraction.
Speaker 3: So it was that Peter Dutton had asked Gina ryan
Speaker 3: Hart to use her private jet. Now he was asked
Speaker 3: on Tuesday whether he'd ever done that, and he said no,
Speaker 3: that was wrong, and he deserves to be criticized for that.
Speaker 3: He corrected the record today though.
Speaker 6: And at that point, I think we had a charter estimate,
Speaker 6: which was about forty thousand dollars to fly from rock
Speaker 6: Hampden to Sydney and then back to Mackay. I thought
Speaker 6: that was very expensive, and the cheap option for the
Speaker 6: taxpayer was for my office to speak to Missus Reinhart's
Speaker 6: officer as to whether the plane might be available.
Speaker 1: That was at zero cost.
Speaker 6: To the taxpayer, and that's as I mean, I don't
Speaker 6: think you'd get as clear a statement as that from
Speaker 6: the Prime minister. But that's what happened.
Speaker 3: But let's be serious here, this is a completely different situation.
Speaker 3: Labour wants you to think that this is in some
Speaker 3: way comparable. That Dutton has had snout in the trough
Speaker 3: just as much and so look, we're not any different
Speaker 3: than the other mob but they're not the same. Dutton's office,
Speaker 3: while he is in opposition, asks a personal friend of
Speaker 3: his whether he can borrow her plane to go to
Speaker 3: a Barley bombing memorial. It's not like missus Reinhardt has
Speaker 3: Dubai Dutton support. He's previously declared himself the best friend
Speaker 3: mining's ever had. That's his publicly stated clear policy position.
Speaker 3: And the mining sector is completely different to the airline sector.
Speaker 3: Mining licenses are assessed and granted by state governments and
Speaker 3: it's generally done at a departmental level, not by the minister.
Speaker 3: The federal government only regulates offshore exploration the airline sector.
Speaker 3: The airline sector, i should say, on the other hand,
Speaker 3: is tightly controlled by the federal government, with many operators
Speaker 3: of course fighting for the opportunity to run their planes
Speaker 3: in and out of Australia and around Australia, and that
Speaker 3: is at the discretion of the Transport Minister now regardless
Speaker 3: of whether or not he actually solicited the upgrades. What
Speaker 3: we are talking about with Albanizi is the Transport Minister
Speaker 3: taking gifts from the biggest stakeholder in his portfolio, over
Speaker 3: whose industry he has almost total control. He could choose
Speaker 3: how many quantus flights were allowed and how many flights
Speaker 3: every other airline was allowed to have. That's what we're
Speaker 3: talking about here. It is in no way comparable to
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton and it's frankly a pathetic attempt to get
Speaker 3: people to look in the other direction. And of course
Speaker 3: the decisions of the Transport Minister, the decisions he makes
Speaker 3: about what airlines can operate and how many flights they
Speaker 3: can run, that directly affects what you pay for flights
Speaker 3: because it controls how much competition.
Speaker 1: There is in the market.
Speaker 3: It's one of the main reasons that Rex fell over
Speaker 3: on its mission to run between the capital cities, because
Speaker 3: Sydney to Melbourne is one of the busiest and one
Speaker 3: of the most profitable airline routes in the world. But
Speaker 3: they could only get too slot today in the mid
Speaker 3: morning and the late evening, which aren't prime flying time.
Speaker 3: I mean, how is another operator meant to break into
Speaker 3: the market if they're not allowed to fly when people
Speaker 3: want to fly. These are the decisions that the Transport
Speaker 3: Minister makes. That's why it's important whether or not the
Speaker 3: Transport Minister gets free gifts upgrades from quantas and in
Speaker 3: the interest of declarations, because that's the word of the week,
Speaker 3: it would seem I was once given a free drink
Speaker 3: on a Rex flight, would you believe it? But again,
Speaker 3: this is the power of the Transport Minister, and that's
Speaker 3: why the Transport Minister taking gifts from the biggest and
Speaker 3: most powerful airline in the country stinks. They can try
Speaker 3: to point fingers at Dutton and others all they want,
Speaker 3: but it's not the same. Now, the COVID inquiry report
Speaker 3: was handed down on Tuesday, and have we heard from
Speaker 3: a single pandemic premier year?
Speaker 1: Now you know what was in it.
Speaker 3: But just for the sake of clarity, because I don't
Speaker 3: think you can point this stuff out enough, I'll avail
Speaker 3: you of some of.
Speaker 1: Its greatest hits.
Speaker 3: The evidence suggests that some restrictions were poorly justified in
Speaker 3: extent and all duration, disproportionate to the risk, and inconsistently
Speaker 3: applied across the country, and that specific groups were disproportionately impacted. Yes,
Speaker 3: It said that people felt that restrictive measures were not
Speaker 3: appropriate in the long term and were too heavy handed
Speaker 3: and controlling, and that there was a perception that authorities
Speaker 3: lacked compassion and refused to make exceptions based on need
Speaker 3: and circumstance. Correct It said that fairness and proportionality should
Speaker 3: have been considered in restrictions. More evidence based approaches are advisable,
Speaker 3: and that there were limited real time evaluations of public
Speaker 3: health measures and policy decisions to make sure that they
Speaker 3: actually worked.
Speaker 1: It said the closure of state borders.
Speaker 3: Was enacted unilaterally and lack consistency and compassion in implementation.
Speaker 3: It said that broad opposition to vaccine mandates was one
Speaker 3: of the inquiry's clearest findings, and that they contributed to
Speaker 3: distrust in government, increased vaccine hesitancy, and carried profound social
Speaker 3: and economic costs for those who could not or decided
Speaker 3: not to get vaccinated. Now, the inquiry might not have
Speaker 3: been charged with looking at the states, and as we know,
Speaker 3: no premier or chief public health officer was hauled in
Speaker 3: and questioned because the Albanese government wanted to run a
Speaker 3: protection racket for Daniel Andrews and Anastasia Paliche. But all
Speaker 3: of those things were done by and run.
Speaker 1: By the States.
Speaker 3: And where are the pandemic premiers Andrews in Victoria, Palochet
Speaker 3: in Queensland, Stephen Marshall in South Australia, Gladysbury, Jiclian in
Speaker 3: New South Wales, Mark McGowan in Western Australia, Peter Gutween
Speaker 3: in Tasmania.
Speaker 1: Where have they all been this week?
Speaker 3: The report came out on Tuesday, so they had most
Speaker 3: of Tuesday, all of Wednesday, all of Thursday. They've had
Speaker 3: the better part of three days to say something and nothing.
Speaker 3: I mean, we are pretty clearly owed an apology, but
Speaker 3: they are taking us for mugs now, just as they
Speaker 3: took us for mugs a few years ago when they
Speaker 3: were wielding all these lockdowns and restrictions. They obviously don't
Speaker 3: think that we're deserving of an explanation, let alone an
Speaker 3: apology now. The only pandemic premier who has issued any
Speaker 3: kind of apology is Dominic Perrete, who said that vaccine
Speaker 3: mandates were wrong and that they should not have cost
Speaker 3: people their jobs, and that he regrets implementing them when
Speaker 3: he left parliament. These people should count themselves lucky that
Speaker 3: they weren't hauled before this inquiry to explain themselves. But
Speaker 3: they owe us an explanation, they owe us an apology.
Speaker 3: For years they hid behind the health advice of Chief
Speaker 3: Health Chief a chief Sorry health officers.
Speaker 1: You know stuff like this.
Speaker 3: If you are at Adelaide Oval and the ball comes
Speaker 3: towards you, my advice to you is to duck and
Speaker 3: just do not touch that ball.
Speaker 1: I mean remember that one seriously.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I was critical, as were plenty of other people throughout
Speaker 3: the pandemic, of how things were run and how there
Speaker 3: was no basis for much of what was done. And
Speaker 3: if you don't want to answer it as some bloke
Speaker 3: on the telly and in the paper, sure, but an
Speaker 3: independent report by people much more qualified than I says
Speaker 3: you got it wrong and that it hurt people. And
Speaker 3: yet they have said nothing. What a bunch of pathetic squibs.
Speaker 3: They gave up their power to bureaucrats then, and they're
Speaker 3: running scared now. I'll have more to say on that
Speaker 3: in my column in the Advertiser tomorrow. And of course
Speaker 3: the worst state through all of it to was Victoria,
Speaker 3: and I know I lived there for some of it.
Speaker 3: And as we learned a couple of weeks ago, Daniel
Speaker 3: Andrews has been rewarded with the chairmanship of Youth Mental
Speaker 3: Health Outfit Origin, where he'll pocket a tidy seventy five
Speaker 3: grand a year. The man who shut all the schools
Speaker 3: and did more to hurt youth meant mental health and
Speaker 3: anyone else in the country basically well. Thanks to the
Speaker 3: great work of Damon Johnston in The Australian, we saw
Speaker 3: today that Victorians who didn't like lockdowns were called pigheaded
Speaker 3: no at All's in an email to the outfit that
Speaker 3: the state government was paying to do research on what
Speaker 3: people thought of those COVID restrictions.
Speaker 1: The Department of Premier and Cabinet.
Speaker 3: Fought for eighteen months to stop that email being released,
Speaker 3: and thank goodness that Damon Johnston didn't let up. They
Speaker 3: argued it should be kept secret because it could disclose opinion,
Speaker 3: advice or deliberations between public servants and ministers and it
Speaker 3: was contrary to the public interest. Now they say it
Speaker 3: wasn't written by a public servant or a politician, despite
Speaker 3: that being the justification for why it shouldn't be released,
Speaker 3: and they won't say who they claim.
Speaker 1: Actually wrote it.
Speaker 3: This was the arrogance of pandemic governments at the time,
Speaker 3: especially Victoria. This is what they really thought of you,
Speaker 3: you freethinking people who didn't go along with the idea
Speaker 3: that you should be locked up twenty three hours a
Speaker 3: day and have a curfew at night and only be
Speaker 3: able to go five kilometers from your home and have
Speaker 3: to wear a mask outside. And that same arrogance is
Speaker 3: why Andrews and his mates won't answer the report that
Speaker 3: came out this week. Now, the US election just days away. Now,
Speaker 3: I hope you're excited. I know I'm certainly excited. You'd remember,
Speaker 3: of course, these comments yesterday from Joe Biden about Trump supporters.
Speaker 7: Only garbage I see floating down there is his quarters.
Speaker 3: Well, Trump hit back today in the best way possible
Speaker 3: with a garbage truck.
Speaker 1: That's like deplorable veil. This is the deplorable vailery. And
Speaker 1: I think this is worse.
Speaker 3: Actually, Honestly, I just love that there's some fun in
Speaker 3: politics again. I mean, here we are in Australia, going
Speaker 3: on about whether the PM is effectively corrupt for getting
Speaker 3: flight upgrades, and over in the US there slinging Marden
Speaker 3: around in garbage trucks. The content is just chef's kiss.
Speaker 3: He then went from the truck to a rally in
Speaker 3: Green Bay in Wisconsin, still wearing his Highvey's vest.
Speaker 6: You can't lead America if you don't love Americans.
Speaker 8: It's true.
Speaker 9: You can't be president if you hate the American people,
Speaker 9: which I believe they do.
Speaker 3: Now, the problem for Harris here is that she still
Speaker 3: has to show some kind of respect to her president.
Speaker 3: He is still her boss, don't forget. So she has
Speaker 3: to find a way to say that she doesn't think
Speaker 3: half the country is garbage without effectively saying that Biden
Speaker 3: is an idiot.
Speaker 1: Now this was her attempt. I'm not sure it quite
Speaker 1: hit the mark.
Speaker 8: First of all, he clarified his comments, But let me
Speaker 8: be clara. I finally disagree with any criticism of people
Speaker 8: based on who they vote for.
Speaker 1: What is it? Are you repudiating your president or not?
Speaker 1: Good luck with that one.
Speaker 3: And speaking of Biden, we know he has done some
Speaker 3: weird things. You know, he's got this thing about stiffing
Speaker 3: people's hair, and trying to kiss people and generally being
Speaker 3: a bit of a creep. And never forget the one
Speaker 3: about kids stroking his legs and sitting on his lap.
Speaker 10: And by the way, you know, I sit on the
Speaker 10: stand and it get hard. I got liner, I got
Speaker 10: hairy legs, that turn that that that turn blonde in
Speaker 10: the sun. And the kids used to come up and
Speaker 10: reach in the pool and rub my leg down.
Speaker 1: So I was training that.
Speaker 10: Whit's the hair come back up again and look at it.
Speaker 1: So I learned about roaches.
Speaker 2: I learned about kids jumping on my lap.
Speaker 10: And I've loved kids jumping on my lap.
Speaker 1: I mean, blind me, Charlie. Anyway, he's added to the
Speaker 1: repertoire today.
Speaker 3: You know the old joke, I love kids, but I
Speaker 3: couldn't eat a whole one. You might remember he gave
Speaker 3: it ago a year ago. Well, he decided to have
Speaker 3: another shot today. He had a Halloween party at the
Speaker 3: White House and he decided to chomp on a baby
Speaker 3: dressed as a chicken. Now forgive me, but you might
Speaker 3: say it was a cocker. I think this was probably
Speaker 3: the look he had after he realized that wasn't dinner. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: the left in America seemed to think that if a
Speaker 3: woman votes for Trump, it must be because she's under
Speaker 3: the thumb of some controlling husband who makes her vote
Speaker 3: for Trump. Noah, a woman couldn't possibly vote for Trump
Speaker 3: of her own volition, could she? Women must vote for
Speaker 3: other women. Take a look at this ad from campaign
Speaker 3: group Vote Common Good, voiced by Julia Roberts.
Speaker 7: You're a current, honey, in the one place in America
Speaker 7: where women still have a right to choose. You can
Speaker 7: vote anywhere you want and no one will ever know.
Speaker 2: Did you make a rape chory?
Speaker 7: Sheridan, Honey, remember what happens in the booth stays in
Speaker 7: the booman for Harris Will, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, what did you make the right choice? Sure?
Speaker 1: Did, honey.
Speaker 3: I mean I genuinely thought that was a skit the
Speaker 3: first time I watched it. And they may well be worried,
Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty, married women voted for Trump over
Speaker 3: Biden Harris fifty two to forty seven percent. I mean,
Speaker 3: as if women don't know that they can vote for
Speaker 3: who they want, that's the point of a secret ballot,
Speaker 3: But it goes to show you exactly what Harris and
Speaker 3: her mates think of conservative men, that they're controlling scumbags
Speaker 3: who forced their wives to vote a certain way, and
Speaker 3: that conservative women mustn't really think that way. They're just
Speaker 3: under the thumb of their awful husbands. You garbage, or
Speaker 3: you'd some kind of domestic abuser.
Speaker 1: Apparently.
Speaker 3: Before we move on to other things, there's a great
Speaker 3: behind the scenes documentary of the Trump campaign that's been
Speaker 3: made by an outfit called Asha Can Studios. You can
Speaker 3: find it on x It's called Art of the Surge.
Speaker 1: Take a look at this.
Speaker 3: This is Trump reacting live to Harris's address at the
Speaker 3: DNC a few months ago.
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank thank.
Speaker 7: You, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: She grazys, thank you, thank.
Speaker 8: You, thank you so very much, thank you everyone, Thank
Speaker 8: you everyone.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I've mostly thirty five.
Speaker 8: From India to California with an unshakable dream to be
Speaker 8: the scientists.
Speaker 2: How many people are watching?
Speaker 7: Can you tell how many dangers and how many people
Speaker 7: are watching?
Speaker 6: She's talking about how great San Francisco was before she
Speaker 6: destroyed it.
Speaker 1: What you say, d is what you get.
Speaker 3: I think it's a really good insight into how his
Speaker 3: campaign is really him. It's run and directed by him.
Speaker 3: It's all the genius of Trump. I don't know that
Speaker 3: you could say the same for Harris. Now a great
Speaker 3: exclusive from our own Caroline Marcus. Today, the federal government
Speaker 3: awarded a seven million dollar contract to an LGBTQ lobby
Speaker 3: group for a women's cancer campaign using non gendered language.
Speaker 1: Take a look.
Speaker 6: If you have a cervix, the test can save your life.
Speaker 11: It's a controversial women's cancer campaign which refers to people
Speaker 11: who have a cervix instead of women and front holes. Now,
Speaker 11: documents obtained under freedom of information reveal the federal government
Speaker 11: awarded a contract worth seven million dollars to the lobby
Speaker 11: group behind it to roll out the cervical screening campaign
Speaker 11: to women across the country. Opposition Senator Claire Chandler says
Speaker 11: taxpayers deserve to know why ACN was given the money
Speaker 11: when the campaign was primarily trying to reach First Nations
Speaker 11: and culturally diverse women.
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, we have lost the plot. Who actually
Speaker 3: wants this stuff? I mean, this is what confuses me
Speaker 3: so much when we have these cases. You know, all
Speaker 3: this language like chest feeder and birthing parent and front hole.
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds like something a kid did say
Speaker 3: in the school yard, person with a cervix. I mean,
Speaker 3: the number of people out there who must think that
Speaker 3: they are actually offended by women or breastfeeding or mother
Speaker 3: or whatever it is must be so minuscule, because you're talking,
Speaker 3: presumably about transgender people, who are already a tiny fraction
Speaker 3: of the population.
Speaker 1: I mean, it must be a fraction of that fraction.
Speaker 3: That is actually offended by terms that apply to almost
Speaker 3: the whole population. A campaign aimed at women. Referring to
Speaker 3: women is not exclusionary if you're a transgender man, a
Speaker 3: a biological woman that I'm sure you can use your
Speaker 3: brains to work out whether or not you have a
Speaker 3: cervix and ought to be screened for cervical cancer. We
Speaker 3: don't need to change the whole language to cater to
Speaker 3: that tiny minority. But this is why it matters and
Speaker 3: why it is it is worth bringing up every time
Speaker 3: we see one of these examples.
Speaker 1: Some people might say.
Speaker 3: Who cares, it's just inclusive language.
Speaker 1: You know what they mean. Well, it's not inclusive language.
Speaker 3: It's exclusive language.
Speaker 1: And deliberately so.
Speaker 3: The radical left say they do this stuff to include
Speaker 3: transgender people, but it's not about transgender people. They're just
Speaker 3: the vanguard, the cloak to hide behind. Taking away words
Speaker 3: like women or mother or vagina are actually about taking
Speaker 3: the specialness of femininity and being a woman away from women,
Speaker 3: because women by and large want to be mothers, and
Speaker 3: mothers buy and large part of families, and that's the
Speaker 3: biggest barrier to the Left being able to achieve its
Speaker 3: ultimate socialist dream. The family is an impediment to who
Speaker 3: they really want to be running your lives and your
Speaker 3: children's lives the state. They're trying to change the language
Speaker 3: so that we forget that mothers and women actually exist.
Speaker 3: The point is to subjugate women, not include them, to
Speaker 3: let men infiltrate women's spaces, to convince us that what
Speaker 3: is plainly and obviously true is actually wrong, so they
Speaker 3: can replace it with something better, or at least what
Speaker 3: they think is better, which of course is state control.
Speaker 3: Right when they say that language matters, it does matter.
Speaker 3: That's why they're trying to change it, not so they
Speaker 3: can be inclusive, but so they can change the culture,
Speaker 3: which brings me to this insane yarn out of the
Speaker 3: UK that councils with the help of toy manufacturer Mattel
Speaker 3: of course they make Barbie dolls etc. And a BBC
Speaker 3: education consultant. They're telling parents to get kids to play
Speaker 3: Monopoly with more money and to give them less time
Speaker 3: in jail so they can learn about racism. Now, I
Speaker 3: promise you I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Apparently this was all written up back in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: after the Black Lives Matter riots, but it's only just
Speaker 3: come to light that British councils are distributing this guide
Speaker 3: called how to Raise Anti Racist Children. It says that
Speaker 3: parents of children up to three years old should play
Speaker 3: music from different cultures and avoid only singing songs steeped
Speaker 3: in white culture. That apparently means you have to avoid
Speaker 3: barbar black sheep, and you should also read picture books
Speaker 3: and play with dolls that represent black characters. For kids
Speaker 3: age three to six, it says to ensure your bookshelves
Speaker 3: include stories which address racism and stories featuring black protagonists,
Speaker 3: and to introduce natural conversations about race and teach your
Speaker 3: child what racism is. Between six and nine, you should
Speaker 3: ask your child school about how their curriculum can hovers
Speaker 3: black history and then the ps to resistance. Between nine
Speaker 3: and twelve. You should use board game metaphors to explain
Speaker 3: white supremacy and privilege, with the example of Monopoly with
Speaker 3: adapted rules, which allows white players to start with more
Speaker 3: money of avoid going to jail and get a head
Speaker 3: start on buying property. God help us, and just quickly
Speaker 3: before we get to the panel, someone who might have
Speaker 3: wished God had helped him a young chap by the
Speaker 3: name of Connor Foskin. Well, I call him a young chap.
Speaker 3: He's actually older than me, he's twenty eight. But anyway,
Speaker 3: he was busted with drugs at the Listen Out Music
Speaker 3: festival in Sydney earlier this month. Well, he came before
Speaker 3: Magistrate Michael Barcoe in the Waverley Local Court in Sydney
Speaker 3: today and mister Barco, I have to say, said what
Speaker 3: we were all thinking. He said this to the fella.
Speaker 3: And excuse the language here, I'm assuming the music was
Speaker 3: sahiit was at shiit because you, for some reason needed
Speaker 3: to take drugs to enjoy it. Exactly, bravo, Magistrate Michael Barco.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've always wondered how awful the music must
Speaker 3: be that all these kids need to be whacked out
Speaker 3: on drugs to actually enjoy or understand it. He went on,
Speaker 3: You couldn't get enough vibes out of the music, couldn't
Speaker 3: get enough vibes from the legalized drinks. You take one
Speaker 3: of these pills, it's not the wrong cocaine, and you're dead.
Speaker 3: We used to enjoy ourselves without having to take drugs.
Speaker 3: Do you know why the drug dogs are the happiest
Speaker 3: and fittest in the world because they come to the
Speaker 3: Eastern suburbs they get a treat, a tennis ball for
Speaker 3: finding drugs. The arrogance and the naiveties and the stupidity
Speaker 3: in that I'll walk past this drug dog and no
Speaker 3: one will know because it's in my underpants. Honestly, send
Speaker 3: this man to the High Court. We've all thought it.
Speaker 3: He's just said it to their faces. Well, let's return
Speaker 3: now to upgrade Olbow joining me his form of Victorian
Speaker 3: Liberal Party President Michael Kroger and Christy McSweeney from the
Speaker 3: pr Council. Good to have you both here tonight. Michael,
Speaker 3: I couldn't get over that they're now trying to say
Speaker 3: it's all good because Dutton's done exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3: They are very different cases. Mister Dutton's office calling up
Speaker 3: a friend of his saying I literally can't get a
Speaker 3: plane to go to a barley bombing memorial.
Speaker 1: Can you help me out?
Speaker 3: Is not the same as the Transport minister taking a
Speaker 3: gift from the biggest stakeholder in his portfolio.
Speaker 2: No, of course it's not.
Speaker 12: But what Labour trying to do is just muddy the waters,
Speaker 12: throw a bit of mud here, you know, just confuse everybody.
Speaker 12: So if so, all the public thinks, oh, they're all
Speaker 12: the same, well they're not all the same because alban
Speaker 12: Easy and the media are obsessed with rightly so did
Speaker 12: he make calls to the Quantus office and request upgrades?
Speaker 12: And that's still very murky in reading between the lines.
Speaker 12: There's a lot more to come out on this. Samantha
Speaker 12: Maiden's stories should be very concerning for the government today
Speaker 12: because she doesn't buy any of this stuff. So and
Speaker 12: Quantus people saying it was well known that they're in
Speaker 12: touch with Albanese's office.
Speaker 2: Anyway, A lot more to come out on that.
Speaker 12: But the huge difference, right, the huge difference the media's
Speaker 12: got to concentrate on, is Alberniazi took upgrades from quantas
Speaker 12: that I'm a member of the Gaman's Lantartow was declaredvery
Speaker 12: time I took about Contus, he took upgrades from Quantus
Speaker 12: whilst he was the minister and he was regulating Quantus.
Speaker 12: I mean he should have been sacked by the Prime Minister,
Speaker 12: rad and Gillard at the time.
Speaker 2: He should have been sacked.
Speaker 12: And now it's eleven years on, but quite frankly, what
Speaker 12: he did is is completely unacceptable. It would have been
Speaker 12: a breach of any ministerial code and the fact that
Speaker 12: he wasn't sacked is only because they no one probably
Speaker 12: looked at the time. But this is a world away
Speaker 12: from backbenches or Bridget mackenzie or Peter Darton or even
Speaker 12: the labor backbenches. I mean, that's a completely different category, mate,
Speaker 12: completely different category exactly.
Speaker 3: And they're trying to make this equivalence that anyone who's
Speaker 3: taken an upgrade for the quants, you're the same as
Speaker 3: the Transport minister taking the upgrade and Christy you had
Speaker 3: in Melbourne today, the Prime Minister had a meeting ahead
Speaker 3: of a fundraiser tonight with all his ministers there and
Speaker 3: he walked in, as I said earlier in the program,
Speaker 3: and basically said, oh woe is me.
Speaker 1: They're treating me so badly.
Speaker 3: The Coalition gets a much easier run in the media.
Speaker 1: Well, I must be.
Speaker 3: Looking at different newspapers and media to what he's looking at.
Speaker 3: And of course then ministers have linked this information, or
Speaker 3: at least people in the room have leaked this information
Speaker 3: to the press, which kind of gives you an idea
Speaker 3: of what they're thinking of alban easy. But it proves
Speaker 3: that this is cutting through because people are looking at
Speaker 3: it and going this bloke is only in it for himself.
Speaker 13: I think, with the cost of living inflation the way
Speaker 13: it is, the cost of flights for anybody who's even
Speaker 13: considering taking their children on school holiday, flying to visit
Speaker 13: relatives and so forth, people are looking at the money
Speaker 13: that's been charged by airlines in recent years, and they,
Speaker 13: of course say it's post COVID and we're recovering and.
Speaker 7: It's a staff issue.
Speaker 13: Well, it's a staff issue because you sacked a great
Speaker 13: load of staff and refused to have them back and
Speaker 13: outsaurce them to cheaper contractors.
Speaker 14: That's a whole other discussion.
Speaker 13: But people are looking at that saying, gosh, this is
Speaker 13: really expensive for me, a hard working family to fly
Speaker 13: and here is the Prime Minister of the nation with
Speaker 13: a history of decades of taking upgrades when he was
Speaker 13: regulating the airline industry. Yes, very different from backbenches. And
Speaker 13: I think there's an awareness at all politicians except upgrades
Speaker 13: and accept gifts they are declared. But when you are
Speaker 13: in charge of regulating that's which is a jewopoly and
Speaker 13: has been a jeopoly for most of its time, that's very,
Speaker 13: very murky. And we can tell that the Prime Minister
Speaker 13: knows it's murky because of the carefully worded statement around
Speaker 13: who had contact with Pond just in his office. That
Speaker 13: will tell you everything you need to know. And yes,
Speaker 13: of course it's going to be fed from the inside
Speaker 13: from labor because they are looking at the Prime minister's
Speaker 13: judgment buying a four point three million dollar house and
Speaker 13: various other activities, and of course the failure of the
Speaker 13: voice going we can't let this continue.
Speaker 3: Well, he says they did it to rub in terms
Speaker 3: of you're trying to bring the tool poppy down. He
Speaker 3: should give great thanks to Run for the changes he
Speaker 3: made to the ability to replace a labor leader.
Speaker 1: I think right now now.
Speaker 3: You both live in Melbourne, though Christie of course you're
Speaker 3: not in Melbourne tonight, but I lived there for a.
Speaker 1: Little while, went through.
Speaker 3: The awful lockdown YouTube took it a lot harder than
Speaker 3: I did. This email that was in the Australian Today,
Speaker 3: And good on Damon Johnston for fighting this for eighteen
Speaker 3: months through the FOI process to get hold of this
Speaker 3: email that had been sent from someone The Department of
Speaker 3: Premier in Cabinet won't tell us who sent this email,
Speaker 3: but it was sent by someone apparently not a public
Speaker 3: servant or a politician, to the outfit that was doing
Speaker 3: research on what people thought of the COVID restrictions, describing
Speaker 3: people who didn't like the COVID restrictions in Victoria as pigheaded,
Speaker 3: no at alls, no wonder Michael. They wanted to keep
Speaker 3: this secret in fourty eighteen months to do so because
Speaker 3: it tells us exactly what the Andrews government thought of Victorians.
Speaker 12: Well well under Damon Johnson for fighting Frida eight months.
Speaker 2: He's got to get a.
Speaker 12: Real job one day, by the way, if you can
Speaker 12: spend eight eight months on that, But well done to
Speaker 12: him for uncarrying.
Speaker 1: He's doing God's work, mate, Look.
Speaker 2: He's doing the Lord's work. And all praise to him.
Speaker 12: This this, this is a very important email because it
Speaker 12: shows the contempt that the Andrews government, and Andrews in
Speaker 12: particular have for ordinary had for ordinary Victorians.
Speaker 2: And you know, we've seen that that South.
Speaker 12: Australian Health spokesman head on the football that you showed before.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 12: This just showed the contempt. It was like Andrew's in,
Speaker 12: we know everything you you know, you fools, you tosses
Speaker 12: out there in the public.
Speaker 2: You've got to do what you're told.
Speaker 12: When you're banning golf, banning people doing things outdoors, U
Speaker 12: and on it goes no health advice, on on on
Speaker 12: the justification for closing schools when kids were mostly largely,
Speaker 12: almost universally untouched by COVID, et cetera, et cetera. This
Speaker 12: is the arrogance of the elites, right, we know everything
Speaker 12: you you nom's out there, you know nothing.
Speaker 2: You just do what you're told.
Speaker 12: Don't go to the playground, put a mask on when
Speaker 12: you're allowed to play golf, even on you're outid I
Speaker 12: don't touch the fland stick blah blah blah. So you know,
Speaker 12: good on them, for good on, damon for exposing this
Speaker 12: and as I said, it's just an example of the
Speaker 12: of the wide gap between the working middle class, the
Speaker 12: ordinary person who's got a lot of common sense, and
Speaker 12: the rich, wealthy elites unaffected by lockdowns by the way,
Speaker 12: in a sense that none of their salaries were affected,
Speaker 12: none lost their jobs.
Speaker 2: You know they yeah, they were, They were all fine.
Speaker 2: They are all fine.
Speaker 12: So the you know, these toxic you know know it
Speaker 12: all elites raining on the parade of the ordinary working
Speaker 12: middle classes in this country another perfect example of that, mate.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a pig heatd know it all? Christy.
Speaker 3: I would have thought Daniel Andrews fit that bill pretty
Speaker 3: well during COVID, But where has he been this week
Speaker 3: and all the other pandemic premiers. As I said at
Speaker 3: the top of the show, the report that came out
Speaker 3: this week very clearly laid out how the states got
Speaker 3: it wrong, and not one of them has come out
Speaker 3: this week and said we're very sorry, we apologize.
Speaker 13: It's try Busy Caleb addressing the momentous challenge ahead of him,
Speaker 13: which is improving the mental health of young Victorians, which
Speaker 13: of course he was almost solely responsible for ruining during COVID.
Speaker 13: And we know from psychologists, school principles and parents that
Speaker 13: the lag effect of the development of teenagers and people
Speaker 13: who were facing key moments in their life and their
Speaker 13: higher education, schooling and their first years of university and
Speaker 13: even children is absolutely so damaged by unnecessary and even
Speaker 13: the police in Victoria made mention that the curfew at
Speaker 13: a PM that was not implemented or suggested by the police,
Speaker 13: that was a decision of the premier and he blamed
Speaker 13: the police. The five kilometer radius that was also a
Speaker 13: decision of the premier acting under their health advice, not
Speaker 13: the always. And so we have seen this state of
Speaker 13: young people and people in Victoria that is still.
Speaker 3: Recovering exactly and they haven't been held to account. They
Speaker 3: need to be held to account. After the break, Michael
Speaker 3: and Christie will be back and we'll talk about the
Speaker 3: fact that we've got a new government in Queensland. What
Speaker 3: do you reckon is the biggest issue for the Christopher
Speaker 3: Ley government Apparently if they have too many people called Dave,
Speaker 3: would you believe it that more? After the break, Welcome
Speaker 3: back to Paul Murray Live. Caleb bond in for the
Speaker 3: Great Man tonight. Too's currently somewhere over the Pacific Ocean
Speaker 3: on his way to the United States. And there's one
Speaker 3: thing he's asked me to do tonight, which I'm more
Speaker 3: than happy to do, and that's talk about Michelle mccranaor
Speaker 3: now tomorrow she starts her run from Adelaide to Port Melbourne.
Speaker 3: That's a thousand kilometers to raise awareness and hopefully a
Speaker 3: million dollars for the Stillbirth Foundation Australia.
Speaker 1: Take a look.
Speaker 5: I'm doing the running, but I can't achieve all these
Speaker 5: goals on my own. I can't raise the million dollars
Speaker 5: on my own. I need the people of Australia to
Speaker 5: jump on board and be spreading this awareness of my
Speaker 5: journey of what I'm trying to achieve. Getting the million
Speaker 5: dollars in that's going to make a difference for all
Speaker 5: these little babies that should be here with us today.
Speaker 3: If you want to help Michelle and of course Paul Murray,
Speaker 3: a cause very close to his heart, head to still
Speaker 3: running dot com dot au. That's still running dot com
Speaker 3: dot auan please give generously. Well, let's go back to
Speaker 3: the US now. As I was talking before, Michael and.
Speaker 1: Christy back with me.
Speaker 3: Trump today in the garbage track was reminded me a
Speaker 3: bit of Nick Xenophon, of course, back in the days
Speaker 3: when he was floating around in Australian politics.
Speaker 1: You know, proper stunt type stuff.
Speaker 3: But this is something that is a real danger for
Speaker 3: how Harris now and has derailed the last week of
Speaker 3: the campaign. As if things weren't already going badly enough
Speaker 3: for her, just the wind totally taken out of her sales,
Speaker 3: and then Biden dotri old Biden comes through Michael and
Speaker 3: just drops a bomb that she didn't need at the
Speaker 3: last moment.
Speaker 12: No, he's put in a classic performance. Just imagine if
Speaker 12: he was still a candidate mate, how the pulse would
Speaker 12: be if Biden had been if Biden had been in
Speaker 12: the candid for the last three weeks, I mean the
Speaker 12: three months, I mean seriously, but no, he's had a shocker.
Speaker 12: What effect will it have, It's very hard to know.
Speaker 12: It doesn't help the Democrats obviously. It probably gets more
Speaker 12: people out to vote who were maybe not interested in
Speaker 12: voting or inclined to Trump but not inclined enough to
Speaker 12: go out and vote. Having been referred to as basically
Speaker 12: human garbage. It will stimulate people to come out and vote,
Speaker 12: But will it affect the old result Probably a little bit.
Speaker 12: It's an amazing election. I mean, you've got CNN, Who've
Speaker 12: got a poll yesterday showing that Harris is five percent
Speaker 12: in front in Michigan and six percent in front in Wisconsin.
Speaker 12: The betting markets have got Trump favorite in six of
Speaker 12: the seven swing states. She's just in front in Michigan.
Speaker 12: And that's why I find the whole thing hard to read.
Speaker 12: Gut instinct tells you that Trump's going to win, and
Speaker 12: guttingsin tells you that Trump's going to win win all
Speaker 12: those seven states.
Speaker 2: And the reason is the reason.
Speaker 12: Is that in the twenty twenty election and the twenty
Speaker 12: sixteen election, and the average of those seven states, they
Speaker 12: underestimated Trump's vote between two and seven percent, two and
Speaker 12: seven percent in every one of those swing states, or
Speaker 12: an average about four percent. Now, if that's repeated, he
Speaker 12: wins easily. What I don't know is how much the
Speaker 12: polsters have facted in the shy Trump voter effect, how
Speaker 12: much how much they increased Trump's vote in some of
Speaker 12: those states to make up for the shy.
Speaker 2: Trump vote effect.
Speaker 12: That's what we don't know, which is why you know
Speaker 12: you wouldn't call it for Trump now with any great certainty,
Speaker 12: although he does look the winner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course d Kevin rad Christie'll be a
Speaker 3: bit worried if Trump does win. Reporting in the news
Speaker 3: Court papers today that within diplomatic circles there's already talk
Speaker 3: about the possible need to get rid of him if
Speaker 3: Trump wins, because of course he's been quite critical of Trump.
Speaker 1: In the past. The suggestion is maybe Tony Abbott would.
Speaker 2: Be good for the job.
Speaker 13: Our bad news for the Labor Party. They'll have to
Speaker 13: bring Kevin Rudd home right at a pivotal time when
Speaker 13: we're sorting six months out from an election.
Speaker 2: We don't want him to do that. We don't want him.
Speaker 14: They are going to signial prices of Kevin Rudd's ability
Speaker 14: to be the best man on the ground in Washington
Speaker 14: for Australia until that election is done in Dustin Caleb
Speaker 14: and Michael.
Speaker 1: That's my tip at your quick prediction, Christie.
Speaker 12: Caleb Caleb for Caleb before we before we get off
Speaker 12: this subject, very important. Joe Hockey, who was of course
Speaker 12: the ambassador, did an excellent job. An outstanding job by Hockey.
Speaker 12: As we know Hockey and Rudder quite friendly, Joe. If
Speaker 12: you're watching tonight, if the Orange Man wins, do not
Speaker 12: ring the White House and.
Speaker 2: Say he's okay.
Speaker 12: Rud's ok mate, Just keep him there right, Do not
Speaker 12: do that, Joe. The American people have enough trouble without
Speaker 12: having Kevin Rudd representing our country over there.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, but we.
Speaker 3: Don't necessarily want him back here either. It's it's a
Speaker 3: strange equation. We don't and very quickly though your prediction,
Speaker 3: who do you think it's going to be?
Speaker 1: Christy Trump?
Speaker 13: If there was ever a week to put old sleeping
Speaker 13: Joe back in their basement and pack him off to
Speaker 13: bed by eight pm, it would have been this one.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Indeed, now very quickly, David chris a fully of course,
Speaker 3: has to unveil a new cabinet, though he's previously said
Speaker 3: that it'll remain the same as it was before the
Speaker 3: Queensland election. But the reporting today in The Guardian I
Speaker 3: can't get over Ben's me.
Speaker 1: One of their columnists.
Speaker 3: Has said that four Davids and two Nigels can Chrisophoolly
Speaker 3: deliver a modern and inclusive government. He says that in
Speaker 3: opposition twenty nine of the lnpmps were white men. The
Speaker 3: rest were white women. Of the seats already called after
Speaker 3: the state election, nine to fifteen new llnpnps are men,
Speaker 3: two are new David's now for in total and two
Speaker 3: nigels very quickly. Michael, First, that is the most important thing,
Speaker 3: isn't it too many white men?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 12: Well, of course it's the most important thing. And if
Speaker 12: all of the polling and that election showed that that
Speaker 12: was the most important issue facing people. So no, perhaps
Speaker 12: Christoph Foley or to pick people on the basis of merit.
Speaker 12: Of course he's got to have some diversity obviously, but
Speaker 12: I think people who can deal with youth crime and
Speaker 12: the massive exploding debt in Queensland a property.
Speaker 1: His priorities five seconds each, Winners and losers.
Speaker 2: Michael loser clearly elbow.
Speaker 12: He's had a shocker and Paul Murray's the winner because
Speaker 12: he'll be going over to see if made over there
Speaker 12: and it could be a good day next Wednesday.
Speaker 13: Christy, I'm going to give a shout out to the
Speaker 13: Steelbirth run for a million dollars as well, Cayleb. But
Speaker 13: I think Michelle is doing an incredible thing. Decades ago,
Speaker 13: women had to suffer in silence, and families had to
Speaker 13: suffer in silence and weren't able to discuss these issues,
Speaker 13: and it wasn't seen as anything important. So that is
Speaker 13: fantastic that she's doing that, and fantastic that here at
Speaker 13: scott we're raising awareness of that as well.
Speaker 3: Indeed, Christy Bigsweeney and Michael Kroger, thank you so much
Speaker 3: for your time. Coming up next, the man who survived
Speaker 3: being hit by a car going one hundred and sivty
Speaker 3: kilometers an hour. You have to hear this unbelievable story.
Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back to Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 3: Caleb Bond here of course, while Paul travels to the
Speaker 3: US for a great week of shows for you next week.
Speaker 1: Plenty to talk about over there. But before we.
Speaker 3: Go tonight, I have to tell you about an extraordinary story.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, Ben Hyde was hit by a
Speaker 3: cargoing one hundred and seventy kilometers an hour and despite
Speaker 3: being burnt, he was on fire in that crash.
Speaker 1: He lived now.
Speaker 3: Ben was at the time the deputy editor of my
Speaker 3: old paper, The Advertiser. I've got to say he's one
Speaker 3: of the best people I've ever worked for and He's
Speaker 3: turned his story into a new documentary called While I
Speaker 3: was Sleeping Take a Look.
Speaker 9: I should have been on my way home to my
Speaker 9: loving family. Instead, I was hit by a speeding drug
Speaker 9: driver traveling at one hundred and seventy kilometers an hour
Speaker 9: Adelaide's CBD. I was trapped, I was unconscious, I was
Speaker 9: on fire, and I was helpless. He is only through
Speaker 9: the amazing work of Good Samaritans, emergency services personnel and
Speaker 9: an incredible team of doctors at the Royal Adelaide Hospital
Speaker 9: that I survived that night. They are the ones to
Speaker 9: a best place to tell my story while I was
Speaker 9: in a coma. My name is Ben Hyde, and this
Speaker 9: is what happened while I was sleeping.
Speaker 3: And you saw a little snippet of it. E it
Speaker 3: just extraordinary, Ben Hyde joins us. Now, Betty, it's good
Speaker 3: to be back with you again, albeit through the TV screen.
Speaker 3: What made you want to relive such a traumatic moment
Speaker 3: and tell the story in a docco.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hey, Caleb, thanks for the kind words too. Look,
Speaker 9: it's a really interesting one for myself. I don't have
Speaker 9: any memory whatsoever of the point of the crash or
Speaker 9: anywhere up until about a week later after I'd come
Speaker 9: out of a coma and what not owing to quite
Speaker 9: a significant brain injury that I also suffered. So the
Speaker 9: journalist in me was quite keen to I had a
Speaker 9: lot of intrigue about what had happened. And I'd also
Speaker 9: heard anecdotally via my wife and some of the police
Speaker 9: that were in touch early on in the investigation, that
Speaker 9: there was quite a remarkable story of how I was
Speaker 9: actually rescued from the crumpled wreck of my car and revived.
Speaker 9: So I felt kind of compelled to go back and
Speaker 9: piece together those gaps in the story and in my
Speaker 9: mind that I that I had, and also try to
Speaker 9: track down these people who were so critical in my
Speaker 9: in my time of absolute need.
Speaker 3: I'll come back to meeting those people in a minute.
Speaker 3: But today is the launch date of the documentary. People
Speaker 3: can go on and watch it on the Advertiser website
Speaker 3: or through any of the other.
Speaker 1: News Corp mass Hit websites.
Speaker 3: But you mentioned your wife before, and not only is
Speaker 3: it the launch date of the doco, today is actually
Speaker 3: your wedding anniversary. So apologies to missus Hyde for for
Speaker 3: keeping you here talking to me, But I.
Speaker 1: Mean it must be days like today where you go.
Speaker 3: My God, that could have gone so differently, and yet
Speaker 3: I am still here, able to spend time with my
Speaker 3: family and celebrate things like my wedding anniversary. You know,
Speaker 3: it could happen to any of us, but it really
Speaker 3: puts it into perspective, doesn't it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, right, Caleb. I mean, you've
Speaker 9: hit the nail on the head there. It has not
Speaker 9: lost on me, how I mean. I was the definition
Speaker 9: of the unluckiest person when to get caught up in
Speaker 9: all of this. So I was just innocently going about
Speaker 9: my business going home.
Speaker 1: Home from work.
Speaker 9: But everything that happened after that point was the odds
Speaker 9: were ridiculously stacked in my favor, I feel. And for
Speaker 9: me to get out of that car, that burning car, alive,
Speaker 9: albeit just clinging to life, but then to be to
Speaker 9: be revived at the scene, and then to have some
Speaker 9: amazing medical work done to me at the rah, It's
Speaker 9: not lost on me how lucky I am. And now
Speaker 9: as a result, how just how much I appreciate, you know,
Speaker 9: things in life which which are critically important. You know,
Speaker 9: hence why you do a documentary premiere on your wedding anniverse,
Speaker 9: But no no, not true. But you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 9: be here without Tanya, my beautiful wife, and our boys
Speaker 9: Oliver and Ari like they have been the absolute keys
Speaker 9: and critical to my to my ongoing recovery.
Speaker 3: Going through that experience of finding these people who helped
Speaker 3: you and saved your life and and meeting them and
Speaker 3: thanking them, that must have been extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 9: And this is where you know I am. I haven't thankfully,
Speaker 9: I haven't had to grapple with any real post traumatic
Speaker 9: responses relating to that really graphic period of my injury
Speaker 9: and recovery, purely because I just have zero memory of
Speaker 9: it and I can't get it back. So the fact
Speaker 9: that I've avoided that has meant that this whole process
Speaker 9: has just been a constant reminder in a how lucky
Speaker 9: I am. B the incredible displays of heroism and bravery
Speaker 9: and everything that was on display at the scene, and
Speaker 9: see the skill and expertise of our medical experts who
Speaker 9: were able to put me back together again. And that's
Speaker 9: been probably you know, it was incredibly cathartic for me,
Speaker 9: and you know, one of the most humbling experiences of
Speaker 9: my life.
Speaker 3: I can imagine and look none of us really think
Speaker 3: about it when we drive to work or home from work,
Speaker 3: which is what you were doing when you were hit,
Speaker 3: that this could happen, but of course it could happen
Speaker 3: to any of us at any time. I think it's
Speaker 3: an important reminder not only of the futility of life,
Speaker 3: but also that we all have to take great care
Speaker 3: on the road. Ben Hid, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: joining me tonight, and of course you can watch that
Speaker 3: documentary at the Advertiser dot com dot au.
Speaker 1: That's it for me.
Speaker 3: Stay in tuned now for the late debate. It's a
Speaker 3: great show, but fear warning, the host I like the
Speaker 3: most isn't on.
Speaker 1: Tonight, but I think you'll still enjoy it. Stick around