1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:13,201 Speaker 1: Apogae Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashley 2 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:16,881 Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is about female empowerment. 3 00:00:16,441 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most 4 00:00:19,201 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,241 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 7 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:31,801 Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. Welcome back 9 00:00:31,841 --> 00:00:34,721 Speaker 2: to another episode of She Rises. Your favorite hosts Ashley 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: and Tiana. We are here with another beautiful topic and 11 00:00:38,321 --> 00:00:41,041 Speaker 2: we want to talk about other women being ambitious and 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: being successful. If it triggers you, and if it does, 13 00:00:44,161 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about it. 14 00:00:45,281 --> 00:00:48,681 Speaker 1: Yes, we love talking about triggers and every time we do, 15 00:00:48,721 --> 00:00:51,001 Speaker 1: we get a lot of really positive feedback and also 16 00:00:51,001 --> 00:00:53,441 Speaker 1: a bit of pushback as well, because I think when 17 00:00:53,441 --> 00:00:55,881 Speaker 1: we're triggered, if we get triggered, like it's highlighting something 18 00:00:55,881 --> 00:00:57,361 Speaker 1: that we don't want to look at. That's right, it's 19 00:00:57,441 --> 00:01:00,681 Speaker 1: highlighting something we've suppressed or we've shamed, or that we 20 00:01:00,761 --> 00:01:02,801 Speaker 1: don't know how to deal with that discomfort or feeling 21 00:01:02,961 --> 00:01:05,361 Speaker 1: like that. And I tell you what, jealousy, it's a 22 00:01:05,521 --> 00:01:08,241 Speaker 1: very low vibrational feeling to feel, and none of us 23 00:01:08,281 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: want to feel like when we feel it, it takes over. 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: I know, I shame myself hard or if I get jealous, 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: like I feel so icky. Steve's mentioned the other day 26 00:01:16,321 --> 00:01:18,801 Speaker 1: that like he likes long, straight, black hair, and he 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: was like, you should die in your hair black. I was like, oh, 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: do you like girls with long, black, shape black hair. 29 00:01:22,321 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: Now I don't have known this the whole time, right. 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,401 Speaker 1: And I had this moment of jealousy and I just 31 00:01:26,441 --> 00:01:28,521 Speaker 1: felt so shit. And then I was like, oh, of 32 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:30,361 Speaker 1: course he likes long black hair. He likes blond hair. 33 00:01:30,481 --> 00:01:33,121 Speaker 1: I like all different people like you. But it was 34 00:01:33,161 --> 00:01:35,601 Speaker 1: that moment when that jealousy comes in, it like feels 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: so activated. It does, yeah, and it's quick to catch 36 00:01:39,401 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: it now. But if you see another woman doing really 37 00:01:42,881 --> 00:01:45,761 Speaker 1: well or having the career or all the life, or 38 00:01:45,801 --> 00:01:48,041 Speaker 1: the partner or the children, or the money or the 39 00:01:48,081 --> 00:01:51,641 Speaker 1: clothes or the designer handbags or the holidays and you 40 00:01:51,681 --> 00:01:53,401 Speaker 1: get triggered by it, we need to talk about it. 41 00:01:53,441 --> 00:01:55,041 Speaker 2: And we need to talk about it because it's the 42 00:01:55,041 --> 00:01:57,001 Speaker 2: one thing that people shy away from the most. And 43 00:01:57,041 --> 00:01:59,241 Speaker 2: you guys know, we hear all about talking about taboo 44 00:01:59,281 --> 00:02:01,761 Speaker 2: topics and having the hard conversations that nobody wants to have. 45 00:02:02,121 --> 00:02:04,161 Speaker 2: So we're going to have it, because this is a 46 00:02:04,201 --> 00:02:07,001 Speaker 2: big roadblock for you. Especially if you do feel this 47 00:02:07,161 --> 00:02:10,041 Speaker 2: and you have this level of envy or resentment or 48 00:02:10,121 --> 00:02:12,961 Speaker 2: jealousy towards other women, that's going to be the very 49 00:02:12,961 --> 00:02:15,201 Speaker 2: thing that stops you in your tracks from you getting 50 00:02:15,201 --> 00:02:17,521 Speaker 2: where you want to be. Definitely, it really is something 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,841 Speaker 2: that you have to be willing to walk through in 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,761 Speaker 2: order to get to the other side. Because for as 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,721 Speaker 2: long as you feel jealous and envious of the women 54 00:02:23,761 --> 00:02:25,321 Speaker 2: who have what you want, you're never going to be 55 00:02:25,361 --> 00:02:27,121 Speaker 2: able to step into it. Yeah, because you're always going 56 00:02:27,161 --> 00:02:28,801 Speaker 2: to think that it's outside of you, and you're always 57 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,121 Speaker 2: going to think that there's something about these other women 58 00:02:31,201 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: that is special about them as to why they get 59 00:02:33,401 --> 00:02:34,721 Speaker 2: to have it and why you don't. 60 00:02:34,881 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and that jealousy is exactly that it's highlighting something 61 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,201 Speaker 1: that you want. It's not the enemy. It's actually shown 62 00:02:41,201 --> 00:02:42,921 Speaker 1: to you, Hey, I want this, they have it. I 63 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,361 Speaker 1: want it. It's not a bad thing, and sometimes it's 64 00:02:46,401 --> 00:02:49,241 Speaker 1: achievable one sometimes it's not. But like, look at it 65 00:02:49,281 --> 00:02:52,481 Speaker 1: and stop shaming yourself for feeling that way. Yeah, I know. 66 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,641 Speaker 1: If I've ever been jealous in business, I'm just like, oh, 67 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,241 Speaker 1: it's because I want what they have or they've achieved 68 00:02:58,281 --> 00:03:01,601 Speaker 1: more than I have. And then I start to recognize 69 00:03:01,641 --> 00:03:03,201 Speaker 1: and observe the stories that come up with it. Oh, 70 00:03:03,201 --> 00:03:05,561 Speaker 1: well they've got that because they've got assist or they 71 00:03:05,601 --> 00:03:07,881 Speaker 1: had a cash injection, or they had a you know, 72 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: a private equity come in and like takeover, or they've 73 00:03:10,561 --> 00:03:12,361 Speaker 1: got more experience than me. And I start to make 74 00:03:12,441 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: up all these excuses and justify why they have it 75 00:03:14,881 --> 00:03:18,001 Speaker 1: and why I don't. What does that do to that person? Nothing? 76 00:03:18,121 --> 00:03:20,161 Speaker 1: They keep succeeding. What does it do to me? Holds 77 00:03:20,161 --> 00:03:21,921 Speaker 1: me back? That's right, it just holds me back. It 78 00:03:21,921 --> 00:03:23,201 Speaker 1: doesn't get me to where I want to go. So 79 00:03:23,281 --> 00:03:25,601 Speaker 1: now when I feel a bit of jealousy come through. 80 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,441 Speaker 1: But the other day was a silly example. 81 00:03:27,481 --> 00:03:28,601 Speaker 2: But I just like an example. 82 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,041 Speaker 1: I just let it sit there, and I was like, 83 00:03:30,161 --> 00:03:32,081 Speaker 1: of course he does it. It's like he said to 84 00:03:32,121 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: me we were watching a show, and he was like, well, 85 00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:36,681 Speaker 1: you thought that dark man was really attractive. I can 86 00:03:36,681 --> 00:03:39,081 Speaker 1: never be a chocolate man for you. There's no point 87 00:03:39,081 --> 00:03:41,441 Speaker 1: when we're getting jealousy. I can't change my skin, you 88 00:03:41,441 --> 00:03:44,001 Speaker 1: can change your age. But he's like, it's okay for 89 00:03:44,081 --> 00:03:46,441 Speaker 1: us to like different parts about different people. I was like, yes, 90 00:03:46,561 --> 00:03:46,921 Speaker 1: very true. 91 00:03:46,921 --> 00:03:49,881 Speaker 2: We talk about bringing playfulness to jealousy. Yeah, time, We'll 92 00:03:49,881 --> 00:03:51,841 Speaker 2: talk about that in a second. But this is a 93 00:03:51,881 --> 00:03:54,441 Speaker 2: huge conversation to be having because jealousy can feel like 94 00:03:54,481 --> 00:03:58,961 Speaker 2: such a heavy trait, like heavy feeling, experience, emotion, and 95 00:03:59,001 --> 00:04:01,721 Speaker 2: I feel like it really does limit us to how 96 00:04:01,801 --> 00:04:04,561 Speaker 2: much we can grow. And I think jealousy on the 97 00:04:04,601 --> 00:04:07,081 Speaker 2: front face is a very surface level thing. It's just 98 00:04:07,161 --> 00:04:10,361 Speaker 2: the trigger, it's just the experience. It's the surface level 99 00:04:10,401 --> 00:04:14,361 Speaker 2: emotion to what's happening on the underlight, what's really going 100 00:04:14,401 --> 00:04:17,641 Speaker 2: on internally and in my experience. And what I believe 101 00:04:17,721 --> 00:04:22,361 Speaker 2: jealousy is is like that jealousy is highlighting a deep desire. Yeah, 102 00:04:22,601 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: it's just highlighting a desire. You've got to be willing 103 00:04:25,201 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: to do that self inquiry and go, Okay, what is 104 00:04:27,921 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: this jealousy trying to teach me? Because if you just 105 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,681 Speaker 2: allow jealousy to be the only thing that you look at, 106 00:04:33,041 --> 00:04:35,281 Speaker 2: you're going to then project it onto that person and 107 00:04:35,361 --> 00:04:36,921 Speaker 2: you're going to then go, oh my god, this like 108 00:04:36,961 --> 00:04:39,601 Speaker 2: what you were saying before. You projected onto that person 109 00:04:39,641 --> 00:04:42,641 Speaker 2: and you make them the villain, make them the bad guy. 110 00:04:42,721 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: You try to In my cases, I've done this before 111 00:04:45,081 --> 00:04:48,721 Speaker 2: where I've almost attacked that person's character because of my 112 00:04:48,721 --> 00:04:49,441 Speaker 2: own insecurity. 113 00:04:49,481 --> 00:04:51,161 Speaker 1: Bring you're trying to bring them down to a level 114 00:04:51,161 --> 00:04:52,601 Speaker 1: of where you're vibrationally at. 115 00:04:52,481 --> 00:04:54,961 Speaker 2: To make you feel comfortable. And I resort to that 116 00:04:55,001 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: when I was younger because I didn't know how to 117 00:04:56,801 --> 00:04:59,001 Speaker 2: deal with my jealousy and I didn't know that there 118 00:04:59,001 --> 00:05:02,361 Speaker 2: were layers underneath the jealousy that was the reason why 119 00:05:02,361 --> 00:05:04,121 Speaker 2: I was showing up that way, you know. And there 120 00:05:04,161 --> 00:05:06,001 Speaker 2: have been times in my life life where I was 121 00:05:06,041 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: surrounded by it. And I've probably shared this before many times, 122 00:05:08,361 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: but many times where I was around lots of business 123 00:05:10,641 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: women and when I was at the very beginning of 124 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,441 Speaker 2: my business, I couldn't hold the success. I would look 125 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,641 Speaker 2: at that and I would go, well, why do they 126 00:05:16,641 --> 00:05:18,801 Speaker 2: get to have that? Why don't I? Or what's the 127 00:05:18,841 --> 00:05:21,801 Speaker 2: secret key or thing that they're doing or that they've 128 00:05:21,801 --> 00:05:23,961 Speaker 2: been given that everyone is hiding from? 129 00:05:24,001 --> 00:05:24,041 Speaker 1: Me. 130 00:05:24,401 --> 00:05:27,881 Speaker 2: Almost felt victimized by it because I thought everyone gets 131 00:05:27,921 --> 00:05:29,721 Speaker 2: to experience it, but me, what's wrong about me? 132 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,121 Speaker 1: Yeah? 133 00:05:30,161 --> 00:05:31,161 Speaker 2: Why don't I get to have that? 134 00:05:31,201 --> 00:05:32,761 Speaker 1: You would have been comparing your chapter one to their 135 00:05:32,801 --> 00:05:34,361 Speaker 1: chapter twenty. That's right. I've been doing it for four 136 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,921 Speaker 1: years and you're just beginning, and it's like, how can 137 00:05:35,961 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: you expect yourself to be where they're at? 138 00:05:37,561 --> 00:05:39,241 Speaker 2: That's right. There were women in there who had ten 139 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,801 Speaker 2: years of business, ran multiple businesses, that was seven figure businesses, 140 00:05:42,841 --> 00:05:45,241 Speaker 2: And I'm over here like brand new, little banbi doesn't 141 00:05:45,241 --> 00:05:48,401 Speaker 2: know how to walk yet, come in, you know, open 142 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,641 Speaker 2: a company and like I'm a business owner now actually 143 00:05:50,761 --> 00:05:52,881 Speaker 2: know and thinking that it's the same journey, but it's 144 00:05:52,961 --> 00:05:53,241 Speaker 2: just not. 145 00:05:53,401 --> 00:05:56,041 Speaker 1: It's not another thing I do too when jealousy arises 146 00:05:56,081 --> 00:05:58,601 Speaker 1: for me, which is like almost like a little practice 147 00:05:58,601 --> 00:06:02,321 Speaker 1: I take myself through. I don't get it often these days. Yeah, 148 00:06:02,401 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: not much at all. Really, I don't really compare much business. 149 00:06:05,201 --> 00:06:07,921 Speaker 1: But I used to compare when I had baseline, and 150 00:06:08,041 --> 00:06:11,041 Speaker 1: I would compare my success and you know, what they 151 00:06:11,041 --> 00:06:12,601 Speaker 1: were doing and what I was doing, and how much 152 00:06:12,641 --> 00:06:14,681 Speaker 1: busier they looked or how much more stock they were selling. 153 00:06:14,721 --> 00:06:16,361 Speaker 1: And I would get in my head about and tell 154 00:06:16,361 --> 00:06:18,161 Speaker 1: the story that I wasn't good enough and all the things. 155 00:06:19,121 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: And now if I ever get like a little hint 156 00:06:20,641 --> 00:06:23,481 Speaker 1: of jealousy with that, I'm like, Okay, that's highlighting something 157 00:06:23,481 --> 00:06:26,161 Speaker 1: that I would like at the cost of what if 158 00:06:26,201 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I really want that, I know I can achieve it, 159 00:06:29,801 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: but I know that I'm going to have to sacrifice 160 00:06:31,401 --> 00:06:33,121 Speaker 1: some other things that I have in my life that 161 00:06:33,161 --> 00:06:35,281 Speaker 1: I really enjoy. And then I ask myself, do you 162 00:06:35,281 --> 00:06:38,881 Speaker 1: really want that? And that dissolves my jealousy instantly, because 163 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,681 Speaker 1: I see a lot of business owners and women that 164 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: it's at the cost of free time, it's at the 165 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,481 Speaker 1: cost of burnout, it's at the cost of time with 166 00:06:45,521 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: their children, it's the cost of their health. Why do 167 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,081 Speaker 1: I want what they have? Is it significance? Where am 168 00:06:52,121 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: I not getting that in my life? Is it attention? Yeah? 169 00:06:55,921 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Is it more money? Why do you want money? What 170 00:06:58,161 --> 00:06:59,761 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're missing out on? What does 171 00:06:59,801 --> 00:07:01,441 Speaker 1: it mean if you have more money in the bank? 172 00:07:01,801 --> 00:07:04,161 Speaker 1: How does that impact you in a positive way? And 173 00:07:04,201 --> 00:07:07,121 Speaker 1: I like keep asking myself these questions and when the 174 00:07:07,161 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: answers is are like no, and I don't really want that. 175 00:07:08,921 --> 00:07:10,161 Speaker 1: I don't want to miss out on more time with 176 00:07:10,201 --> 00:07:12,081 Speaker 1: my kids. Like no, I don't want to burn out 177 00:07:12,081 --> 00:07:14,921 Speaker 1: and be working sixteen hours a day like I used to. Cool, 178 00:07:14,961 --> 00:07:16,921 Speaker 1: maybe I'm not as jealous what I thought, you know, 179 00:07:17,041 --> 00:07:18,681 Speaker 1: and it dissolves it for me. But I have to 180 00:07:18,721 --> 00:07:21,281 Speaker 1: have that internal dialogue and almost coach myself through that. 181 00:07:21,681 --> 00:07:24,041 Speaker 1: Whereas before, when I didn't have that awareness and these 182 00:07:24,081 --> 00:07:26,761 Speaker 1: tools that I've developed over the years, it would just 183 00:07:26,921 --> 00:07:30,161 Speaker 1: come up. I would feel in rage, bring the other 184 00:07:30,201 --> 00:07:33,121 Speaker 1: person down, make all these excuses as to why they 185 00:07:33,161 --> 00:07:35,921 Speaker 1: have it and I don't, and just like spire onto 186 00:07:35,961 --> 00:07:38,241 Speaker 1: this deep dark hole and then push it to the 187 00:07:38,241 --> 00:07:40,001 Speaker 1: side because it's really uncomfortable, and then it would just 188 00:07:40,041 --> 00:07:42,441 Speaker 1: sit there. So it's cool to take yourself through a 189 00:07:42,481 --> 00:07:44,521 Speaker 1: process and get to the deeper layers of what's coming 190 00:07:44,561 --> 00:07:46,521 Speaker 1: up for you and get to the truth, because the 191 00:07:46,521 --> 00:07:48,201 Speaker 1: truth is I don't actually want what they have. It 192 00:07:48,241 --> 00:07:50,441 Speaker 1: looks shiny, and that's the thing with social media too. 193 00:07:50,481 --> 00:07:53,041 Speaker 1: You see what other people are doing, their relationship, their family, 194 00:07:53,081 --> 00:07:55,281 Speaker 1: their business, their money, all the things. But like you're 195 00:07:55,321 --> 00:07:57,801 Speaker 1: just seeing the shiny thing, you don't actually see what 196 00:07:57,841 --> 00:08:00,401 Speaker 1: it takes to get there. Do you actually want it 197 00:08:00,441 --> 00:08:02,721 Speaker 1: bad enough to do what they've had to do? Are 198 00:08:02,761 --> 00:08:05,241 Speaker 1: you willing to sacrifice, and like, how badly do you 199 00:08:05,241 --> 00:08:07,001 Speaker 1: want that? And why do you want that? What does 200 00:08:07,041 --> 00:08:07,801 Speaker 1: that mean for you? 201 00:08:08,561 --> 00:08:10,001 Speaker 2: I love that so much. You know, it's cool you 202 00:08:10,001 --> 00:08:12,641 Speaker 2: can see somebody do something incredible on social media and 203 00:08:12,681 --> 00:08:15,561 Speaker 2: not automatically assume that you have to do that. Yeah, 204 00:08:15,561 --> 00:08:18,321 Speaker 2: to be successful in whatever meaning you what's your definition 205 00:08:18,361 --> 00:08:20,881 Speaker 2: of success? Right? And I think something that you said 206 00:08:20,881 --> 00:08:24,721 Speaker 2: before was really powerful is to ask yourself what you're 207 00:08:24,721 --> 00:08:26,121 Speaker 2: going to get out of it? Yeah, Like, what is 208 00:08:26,161 --> 00:08:28,241 Speaker 2: it that you're lacking right now in your life as 209 00:08:28,241 --> 00:08:30,001 Speaker 2: to why you want this thing that you think it's 210 00:08:30,001 --> 00:08:32,321 Speaker 2: going to give you? And I think knowing the place 211 00:08:32,361 --> 00:08:35,481 Speaker 2: that it's coming from, knowing what your driving force is 212 00:08:35,521 --> 00:08:37,201 Speaker 2: as to why you want that thing will show you 213 00:08:37,321 --> 00:08:39,761 Speaker 2: a lot about what you value, show you a lot 214 00:08:39,841 --> 00:08:42,201 Speaker 2: about what you want and what you're craving and what 215 00:08:42,321 --> 00:08:44,161 Speaker 2: you don't have in your life. Yeah, and what you 216 00:08:44,201 --> 00:08:46,041 Speaker 2: said as well, you were like, well, how else can 217 00:08:46,081 --> 00:08:48,241 Speaker 2: you get that in another way? So that you're not 218 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:51,601 Speaker 2: leaning towards things just for validation yea, or leaning towards 219 00:08:51,641 --> 00:08:54,441 Speaker 2: things just because you think that other people think you 220 00:08:54,441 --> 00:08:54,961 Speaker 2: should do that. 221 00:08:54,921 --> 00:08:56,361 Speaker 1: Because I feel good in the moment. But I promise 222 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:57,561 Speaker 1: you it's going to faine And I can only speak 223 00:08:57,601 --> 00:08:59,761 Speaker 1: from experience. When I've done that, I've chased the shiny things. 224 00:08:59,761 --> 00:09:02,881 Speaker 1: I've achieved, the big numbers, had million dollar launches, like 225 00:09:03,001 --> 00:09:05,881 Speaker 1: on the outside, had everything ticked off. But I promish 226 00:09:05,921 --> 00:09:07,161 Speaker 1: it's not what's going to make you happy. And I 227 00:09:07,201 --> 00:09:09,441 Speaker 1: think a really powerful question you can ask yourself too, 228 00:09:09,601 --> 00:09:11,961 Speaker 1: is what is the definition of success? 229 00:09:12,601 --> 00:09:12,841 Speaker 2: For me? 230 00:09:12,921 --> 00:09:15,241 Speaker 1: A lot of it's freedom. It's being able to do 231 00:09:15,321 --> 00:09:17,241 Speaker 1: what I want to do with who I want to 232 00:09:17,241 --> 00:09:19,281 Speaker 1: do it with however much I want to do it, 233 00:09:19,641 --> 00:09:23,441 Speaker 1: without the restrictions. It's freedom. It's not someone on social 234 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:25,481 Speaker 1: media going, oh my gosh, she has a million followers, 235 00:09:25,481 --> 00:09:29,041 Speaker 1: she's successful. Oh my gosh, she's driving the newest de wagon. 236 00:09:30,121 --> 00:09:31,801 Speaker 1: That's not. It's like the freedom to be able to 237 00:09:31,801 --> 00:09:33,361 Speaker 1: do what I want with who I want, whenever I want, 238 00:09:33,561 --> 00:09:35,961 Speaker 1: as much as I want. Yes, for me, that's success. 239 00:09:36,001 --> 00:09:38,361 Speaker 1: So it's like asking yourself, what does success mean to you? 240 00:09:38,401 --> 00:09:39,921 Speaker 1: And what are you willing to do to get there? 241 00:09:40,561 --> 00:09:41,801 Speaker 1: And how are you going to be happy with that? 242 00:09:42,401 --> 00:09:45,281 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy. I wouldn't be happy being restricted 243 00:09:45,361 --> 00:09:49,161 Speaker 1: and tied down to an old business like Baseline, whereas 244 00:09:49,161 --> 00:09:50,681 Speaker 1: now within she Rises and high dow, I have so 245 00:09:50,761 --> 00:09:54,521 Speaker 1: much freedom, so much freedom, flexibility. It's like, just feel 246 00:09:54,561 --> 00:09:58,481 Speaker 1: so different. I feel successful now she rises earns a 247 00:09:58,521 --> 00:10:01,841 Speaker 1: lot less than significantly, that's some what Baseline ever earned. 248 00:10:02,361 --> 00:10:04,681 Speaker 1: But I feel so free and so much more happier 249 00:10:04,721 --> 00:10:07,841 Speaker 1: and and heartlet and on purpose and a bigger mission. 250 00:10:08,121 --> 00:10:10,321 Speaker 1: I'm way happier now. But I used to think that 251 00:10:10,361 --> 00:10:13,561 Speaker 1: like success was money and looking like I've made it. 252 00:10:13,681 --> 00:10:16,481 Speaker 1: So ask yourself, what is success that's beautiful? 253 00:10:16,681 --> 00:10:18,881 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about jealousy? I think it can 254 00:10:18,921 --> 00:10:21,161 Speaker 2: be something that can be super shameful to talk about. 255 00:10:21,201 --> 00:10:24,161 Speaker 1: God. Yeah, and that's why embarrassing such. 256 00:10:24,001 --> 00:10:27,761 Speaker 2: A topic, especially if you feel jealous towards somebody that 257 00:10:27,801 --> 00:10:30,681 Speaker 2: you know, someone that you love, someone is close to you. 258 00:10:30,961 --> 00:10:33,361 Speaker 2: And from how I used to feel when I've read 259 00:10:33,361 --> 00:10:35,121 Speaker 2: this came up for me, When jealousy came up for me, 260 00:10:35,561 --> 00:10:38,681 Speaker 2: I felt like that person was not going to want 261 00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:41,441 Speaker 2: to be my friend because I made that mean that 262 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,601 Speaker 2: there was something wrong with me. I made the fact 263 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:46,681 Speaker 2: that I felt jealousy mean that something was wrong with 264 00:10:46,721 --> 00:10:48,201 Speaker 2: me or that something was broken. 265 00:10:48,321 --> 00:10:49,641 Speaker 1: You're not a good friend for feeling that. 266 00:10:50,121 --> 00:10:51,921 Speaker 2: Wasn't a good friend or I didn't want the best 267 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:54,041 Speaker 2: to them, which was never the case. I always wanted 268 00:10:54,081 --> 00:10:56,401 Speaker 2: the best for them, but in the time and in 269 00:10:56,441 --> 00:10:59,281 Speaker 2: that moment, it was something else existed for me too, 270 00:10:59,641 --> 00:11:01,201 Speaker 2: And at the time I didn't know how to hold 271 00:11:01,241 --> 00:11:04,721 Speaker 2: that until I learned and did this process of working 272 00:11:04,721 --> 00:11:07,521 Speaker 2: through jealousy and being able to hold it and sit 273 00:11:07,601 --> 00:11:10,521 Speaker 2: with it and acknowledge it and know that I'm capable 274 00:11:10,521 --> 00:11:13,441 Speaker 2: of being somebody who can be jealous, and then also 275 00:11:13,561 --> 00:11:16,481 Speaker 2: not projecting that onto other people anymore so, learning how 276 00:11:16,521 --> 00:11:20,801 Speaker 2: to fully take responsibility for where I wasn't showing up 277 00:11:20,801 --> 00:11:24,041 Speaker 2: in my life and where my own behavior was getting 278 00:11:24,041 --> 00:11:27,201 Speaker 2: me the results that I had, and not that it 279 00:11:27,281 --> 00:11:29,801 Speaker 2: was bad or wrong. It just you know, whenever I 280 00:11:29,841 --> 00:11:31,481 Speaker 2: would compare myself to other people, I'd be like, well, 281 00:11:31,481 --> 00:11:33,841 Speaker 2: why don't I have what they have? But if I'm 282 00:11:33,841 --> 00:11:36,921 Speaker 2: honest with myself five years ago, I wasn't taking the action. 283 00:11:38,081 --> 00:11:41,681 Speaker 2: I wasn't falling into victim That's right. I wasn't responsible, 284 00:11:41,721 --> 00:11:44,321 Speaker 2: I wasn't acting quickly, I wasn't heart let, I wasn't 285 00:11:44,321 --> 00:11:46,561 Speaker 2: purposely But I don't even have clarity on my business 286 00:11:46,881 --> 00:11:49,841 Speaker 2: things like that so there's so many different factors of 287 00:11:49,921 --> 00:11:51,761 Speaker 2: why you may not be moving in a pace or 288 00:11:51,761 --> 00:11:54,201 Speaker 2: the direction that you want to be. But when you 289 00:11:54,241 --> 00:11:56,601 Speaker 2: can stop focusing on everyone else and you put your 290 00:11:56,601 --> 00:12:00,361 Speaker 2: blinders on and you just go within, you find clarity 291 00:12:00,441 --> 00:12:03,841 Speaker 2: so much quicker because you actually start to behave as 292 00:12:03,881 --> 00:12:06,081 Speaker 2: the woman who goes in gets what she wants, no 293 00:12:06,081 --> 00:12:08,201 Speaker 2: matter what it is in life, whether it's the car, 294 00:12:08,321 --> 00:12:12,001 Speaker 2: the relationship of the house, the lifestyle, the partnership, whatever life, 295 00:12:12,041 --> 00:12:14,081 Speaker 2: a good life looks like to you. Yeah, I got 296 00:12:14,161 --> 00:12:17,761 Speaker 2: to choose, but it really does take sitting with the discomfort. 297 00:12:17,801 --> 00:12:20,681 Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable to actually like be aware of it, 298 00:12:20,801 --> 00:12:23,721 Speaker 1: see it, and then act accordingly on it. I remember 299 00:12:23,761 --> 00:12:25,721 Speaker 1: I used to get I've spoken about this a lot 300 00:12:25,761 --> 00:12:28,201 Speaker 1: and more so these days too, but I used to 301 00:12:28,201 --> 00:12:31,641 Speaker 1: get really jealous of women that were really sexually embodied. 302 00:12:32,241 --> 00:12:34,961 Speaker 1: And when you get jealous and trigger, just remember like 303 00:12:35,001 --> 00:12:37,961 Speaker 1: it is an invitation for you to go deeper. There's 304 00:12:38,001 --> 00:12:40,801 Speaker 1: something there for you look at it. And for years 305 00:12:40,881 --> 00:12:42,921 Speaker 1: I would just internally not I wouldn't go online and 306 00:12:42,921 --> 00:12:44,801 Speaker 1: shame people, but internally I would just be like, Oh, 307 00:12:44,921 --> 00:12:48,481 Speaker 1: she just wants attention or she's slutty or like that's 308 00:12:48,521 --> 00:12:50,441 Speaker 1: too much, Like why would you even want to do that? 309 00:12:50,561 --> 00:12:52,001 Speaker 1: You know, I would make up all these stories and 310 00:12:52,001 --> 00:12:54,241 Speaker 1: bring them down because I wanted them to come down 311 00:12:54,281 --> 00:12:55,921 Speaker 1: to how I was feeling. For me. I deemed that 312 00:12:55,961 --> 00:12:58,001 Speaker 1: as wrong. I put in a box of like, well, 313 00:12:58,041 --> 00:13:00,721 Speaker 1: that's not acceptable, But when I looked at it deeper, 314 00:13:00,801 --> 00:13:02,641 Speaker 1: I was like, I would love to be free like 315 00:13:02,681 --> 00:13:06,161 Speaker 1: that once again. Freedom I'd love to be to fully 316 00:13:06,681 --> 00:13:08,761 Speaker 1: be all of who I am and to explore of 317 00:13:08,801 --> 00:13:10,961 Speaker 1: that and to fight more pleasure in and more play 318 00:13:11,041 --> 00:13:13,481 Speaker 1: and fun and just be so connected to my body 319 00:13:13,481 --> 00:13:15,801 Speaker 1: and not actually care what anyone else thinks, and to 320 00:13:15,921 --> 00:13:18,561 Speaker 1: move like that and to feel like that, and to 321 00:13:18,601 --> 00:13:20,321 Speaker 1: flick my hair and wear the dress and do all 322 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:22,681 Speaker 1: the things, and like not be bothered by what anyone 323 00:13:22,681 --> 00:13:24,401 Speaker 1: says because I've got me and I love me. 324 00:13:24,641 --> 00:13:27,081 Speaker 2: And to not limit yourself in the way that you are, 325 00:13:27,721 --> 00:13:29,441 Speaker 2: and to be free in the way. 326 00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:31,441 Speaker 1: That she is. Yeah, and it was really cool. Recently 327 00:13:31,481 --> 00:13:33,521 Speaker 1: I posted We're going to talk about it with Steve 328 00:13:33,561 --> 00:13:35,081 Speaker 1: as well, but a video of me doing a lap 329 00:13:35,161 --> 00:13:36,841 Speaker 1: dance with Steve, and I knew that was going to 330 00:13:36,841 --> 00:13:38,761 Speaker 1: be pushed back, and I was really excited for it 331 00:13:38,801 --> 00:13:40,521 Speaker 1: because I I didn't take any of it to hard. 332 00:13:40,561 --> 00:13:43,401 Speaker 1: I had so much compassion for the comments that came 333 00:13:43,481 --> 00:13:45,241 Speaker 1: forward that were pushed back, because I'm like, oh, I 334 00:13:45,321 --> 00:13:47,361 Speaker 1: see you. I used to be like that. I don't 335 00:13:47,361 --> 00:13:49,041 Speaker 1: know how you're feeling. I used to feel like that. 336 00:13:49,481 --> 00:13:51,161 Speaker 1: For people that are saying it's wrong and it should 337 00:13:51,201 --> 00:13:53,361 Speaker 1: be private, and it's dirty, my kit shouldn't see it, 338 00:13:53,441 --> 00:13:56,361 Speaker 1: and it's like shameful and all these things, I'm like, oh, 339 00:13:56,641 --> 00:13:58,161 Speaker 1: I so get it. But this is why I posted 340 00:13:58,201 --> 00:14:00,801 Speaker 1: it because I want this to activate something within you. 341 00:14:00,841 --> 00:14:03,681 Speaker 1: I want you even if it's not now six months, 342 00:14:03,881 --> 00:14:05,801 Speaker 1: it is time, five years time. I want like for 343 00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:07,641 Speaker 1: you to have that thought and go, oh, this is 344 00:14:07,641 --> 00:14:10,801 Speaker 1: why she posted that. I knew that woman was inside me. 345 00:14:10,921 --> 00:14:13,641 Speaker 1: She was wanting to unleash and bring her fire in 346 00:14:13,681 --> 00:14:16,841 Speaker 1: a plane and be fully embodied, to be everything she 347 00:14:17,001 --> 00:14:20,441 Speaker 1: is and not give two flying foxings. You know, it's 348 00:14:20,441 --> 00:14:24,481 Speaker 1: so cool, but it's hard. It's taken me years to 349 00:14:24,521 --> 00:14:27,001 Speaker 1: get to this point, years of sitting with that discomfort, 350 00:14:27,041 --> 00:14:29,641 Speaker 1: shaming myself for feeling like that's shaming other women internally. 351 00:14:29,921 --> 00:14:32,281 Speaker 1: Once again, I never trolled online, but you have to 352 00:14:32,281 --> 00:14:35,641 Speaker 1: go within and really get uncomfortable. That's where the growth happens. Though. 353 00:14:35,681 --> 00:14:38,881 Speaker 2: It's such an interesting feeling, isn't it When you are 354 00:14:39,441 --> 00:14:43,001 Speaker 2: like internally judging somebody else for something, but there's a 355 00:14:43,041 --> 00:14:44,761 Speaker 2: part of you deep down that knows that you wish 356 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:46,521 Speaker 2: that you could do that, yeah, or that you wish 357 00:14:46,601 --> 00:14:50,121 Speaker 2: that you didn't care could have that's. 358 00:14:49,641 --> 00:14:53,281 Speaker 1: The jealousy, Yeah, judging yourself. I'm about the other person. No, 359 00:14:53,361 --> 00:14:55,281 Speaker 1: it never is. It's like a shiny mirror or a 360 00:14:55,321 --> 00:14:57,321 Speaker 1: shiny torch reflecting back at you of like, this is 361 00:14:57,321 --> 00:14:59,001 Speaker 1: your stuff, it's got nothing to do with them, and 362 00:14:59,041 --> 00:15:00,761 Speaker 1: it shines so bright that you can't even see the 363 00:15:00,761 --> 00:15:02,521 Speaker 1: person behind there. It's all you. 364 00:15:02,881 --> 00:15:05,721 Speaker 2: And it's so much easier to project to that person, 365 00:15:05,961 --> 00:15:08,441 Speaker 2: attack their character or make it feels easier, make it 366 00:15:08,481 --> 00:15:10,761 Speaker 2: mean you know, that they're looking for validation, or that 367 00:15:10,801 --> 00:15:13,281 Speaker 2: they're unhealed or they wounded, or whatever the story is, 368 00:15:13,281 --> 00:15:15,881 Speaker 2: because that used to be my story, and it's easier 369 00:15:15,921 --> 00:15:17,321 Speaker 2: to do that than it is to actually look at 370 00:15:17,321 --> 00:15:18,241 Speaker 2: what's actually coming up. 371 00:15:18,441 --> 00:15:20,361 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it feels easy on the short term though, 372 00:15:20,361 --> 00:15:22,281 Speaker 1: but long term it's not easier. Disbestos. 373 00:15:22,321 --> 00:15:25,401 Speaker 2: But sometimes it's just unconscious, Like, yeah, you realize, because 374 00:15:25,441 --> 00:15:28,881 Speaker 2: that process of getting triggered and then projecting happens so quickly, 375 00:15:29,121 --> 00:15:31,921 Speaker 2: I don't even realize. It's only when you slow down 376 00:15:31,921 --> 00:15:34,521 Speaker 2: the process of going I'm feeling triggered right now? 377 00:15:34,961 --> 00:15:35,641 Speaker 1: What is this? 378 00:15:36,201 --> 00:15:39,001 Speaker 2: Why is this coming up for me? What specifically about 379 00:15:39,001 --> 00:15:42,161 Speaker 2: her triggered me? Do you then start to break that 380 00:15:42,201 --> 00:15:44,361 Speaker 2: cycle and break that pattern? But you have to be 381 00:15:44,441 --> 00:15:48,081 Speaker 2: willing to slow it down before you can actually really 382 00:15:48,121 --> 00:15:51,561 Speaker 2: reveal what's underneath. And that's why these conversations are so powerful, 383 00:15:51,601 --> 00:15:55,161 Speaker 2: and videos like your lap Dance are so powerful because 384 00:15:55,161 --> 00:15:59,601 Speaker 2: it's the burst trigger that almost like unravels anything else up. 385 00:15:59,681 --> 00:16:01,321 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it does. And there were so many 386 00:16:01,321 --> 00:16:03,201 Speaker 1: cool dms I got as well from women just being like, 387 00:16:03,241 --> 00:16:06,201 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like this she was uncomfortable to watch, 388 00:16:06,281 --> 00:16:07,921 Speaker 1: or like I got triggered watching this. But then there's 389 00:16:07,921 --> 00:16:09,521 Speaker 1: a part of me that's like I would love to 390 00:16:09,561 --> 00:16:11,321 Speaker 1: do that for my man. So where did you do this? Class? 391 00:16:11,441 --> 00:16:11,521 Speaker 2: Ye? 392 00:16:12,161 --> 00:16:14,321 Speaker 1: Where did you get that outfit? Did you feel uncomfortable? 393 00:16:14,361 --> 00:16:17,441 Speaker 1: Did he feel Uncomfortiosity? So much curiosity, And I was 394 00:16:17,481 --> 00:16:19,801 Speaker 1: just in my dms for like a week after applying 395 00:16:19,801 --> 00:16:21,521 Speaker 1: to everyone because I love it. Yeah, Like these are 396 00:16:21,521 --> 00:16:23,201 Speaker 1: the conversations I want to have. Like I'm not a 397 00:16:23,241 --> 00:16:25,441 Speaker 1: teacher or a leader in this space, but if I 398 00:16:25,441 --> 00:16:27,561 Speaker 1: can ignite something in you that makes you want to 399 00:16:27,561 --> 00:16:29,201 Speaker 1: dig a bit deeper or try something new, will step 400 00:16:29,241 --> 00:16:31,761 Speaker 1: outside your comfort zone or go on that cool date night, 401 00:16:31,841 --> 00:16:34,121 Speaker 1: Like fuck, Yeah, more women need to feel like this. 402 00:16:34,841 --> 00:16:37,801 Speaker 2: And because we both recently have been talking about how 403 00:16:37,841 --> 00:16:39,841 Speaker 2: powerful it is when we as women are in our 404 00:16:39,841 --> 00:16:43,761 Speaker 2: sexual embodied energy. It's so powerful. It's so potent, isn't it. 405 00:16:43,761 --> 00:16:45,601 Speaker 2: It's your life loss energy. It makes you feel so 406 00:16:45,681 --> 00:16:48,921 Speaker 2: lit up by life and magnetizing everything that you experienced 407 00:16:49,001 --> 00:16:52,281 Speaker 2: so much heightened, pleasurable, enjoyable. 408 00:16:52,361 --> 00:16:55,081 Speaker 1: Literally every day feels more pleasurable when you're in this energy. 409 00:16:54,841 --> 00:16:56,841 Speaker 2: And you just had a high energy for life. 410 00:16:56,681 --> 00:16:59,241 Speaker 1: And you're so unbothered. I feel like I'm so invothered now, 411 00:16:59,281 --> 00:17:01,761 Speaker 1: Like of course I have my lower days, but when 412 00:17:01,801 --> 00:17:04,321 Speaker 1: I'm in this energy, like I'm not rattled, Like people 413 00:17:04,361 --> 00:17:06,521 Speaker 1: can say things online or sit can happen at work 414 00:17:06,681 --> 00:17:08,921 Speaker 1: or having a hard day, and it's just doesn't feel 415 00:17:08,921 --> 00:17:10,561 Speaker 1: as heavy. Yeah, it feels lighter. 416 00:17:10,681 --> 00:17:13,081 Speaker 2: I feel like almost protected from that stuff. 417 00:17:13,201 --> 00:17:17,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, such a strong energy isn't it. It's powerful for you, 418 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,801 Speaker 1: for your partner, everyone around you. 419 00:17:20,041 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Creation energy. 420 00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:23,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, people more drawn to you too, Like I know 421 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,241 Speaker 1: I'm drawn to women that are like that. It's just 422 00:17:25,281 --> 00:17:26,801 Speaker 1: I want to be around that kind of energy. It's 423 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: so uplifting and like empowering. Yeah, and plugging in like 424 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,281 Speaker 1: a battery. Literally, how cool would be around women like that? Yeah, 425 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:37,601 Speaker 1: it's amazing for the best. Love it throughout this journey too. 426 00:17:37,681 --> 00:17:40,801 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's taking me years, like years to 427 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: get to this point now where I'm at now, So 428 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: just be patient with yourself. Yeah, Like if you are jealous, 429 00:17:45,761 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: let's use that sexual one for example, if you're jealous 430 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: of women online that are dancing or posting erotic things 431 00:17:50,721 --> 00:17:53,241 Speaker 1: or talking about it. You're still watching because you're curious, 432 00:17:53,281 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: which is great. Keep doing that, but like you can't 433 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: expect overnight for it to just go away. If it's 434 00:17:58,001 --> 00:17:59,961 Speaker 1: an old wound and you've got old stories and things 435 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: coming up for you, Like, that's okay for them to 436 00:18:02,001 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: be there. There's a reason they're there. They're trying to 437 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,561 Speaker 1: teach you something. It's like a little messenger up Like 438 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,721 Speaker 1: look at it and just give yourself grace, give yourself time, 439 00:18:08,761 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: but just start trying not to shame yourself for feeling 440 00:18:11,241 --> 00:18:13,921 Speaker 1: like that and just give it time, because like I said, 441 00:18:13,921 --> 00:18:15,321 Speaker 1: it's been years to me, I'm sure it was years 442 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: for you as well. Yeah, you're comparing yourself to other 443 00:18:17,561 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: businesswomen and knowing that you're on your own journey and 444 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,521 Speaker 1: can't compare your journey, your chapter one to someone else's 445 00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: chapter twenty. 446 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,081 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it does. It does 447 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: take a long time. It took me probably a good 448 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,521 Speaker 2: four or five years before I actually learned how to 449 00:18:30,561 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: cut through that. The same thing came for me with 450 00:18:32,721 --> 00:18:34,561 Speaker 2: the sexual side of things too. I used to be 451 00:18:34,561 --> 00:18:37,041 Speaker 2: so triggered by women who post online. Yeah, like why 452 00:18:37,041 --> 00:18:40,121 Speaker 2: are you doing that? You're doing the validation, You're wounded, 453 00:18:40,201 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: you're this, you're that looking for attention, like all of 454 00:18:42,681 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: the stories. But it does take time. But if you 455 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,441 Speaker 2: could just lead with curiosity and you do nothing else. 456 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: That's the best avice. 457 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: That's fine. 458 00:18:49,761 --> 00:18:50,281 Speaker 1: You'll be fine. 459 00:18:50,321 --> 00:18:53,321 Speaker 2: If you do nothing, you promise and you know what, 460 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: that's all it takes because all you're doing is exploring yourself. 461 00:18:56,321 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: You're trying to understand who you are and why you 462 00:18:59,481 --> 00:19:01,481 Speaker 2: show up the way that you do. When you lead 463 00:19:01,521 --> 00:19:04,561 Speaker 2: with curiosity, you always end up unraveling just the tiniest 464 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,201 Speaker 2: little bit of that thread that helps you unravel that 465 00:19:08,281 --> 00:19:11,921 Speaker 2: wound or that reasoning or that projection or that trigger. 466 00:19:12,441 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: And then when you do that, you become so neutral 467 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:16,201 Speaker 2: about it, then you. 468 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:18,361 Speaker 1: Can stard that step, isn't it and you. 469 00:19:18,281 --> 00:19:20,521 Speaker 2: Can start expressing yourself in a really beautiful way that 470 00:19:20,561 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: feels congruent and true to you because you're not trying 471 00:19:23,921 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: to be who you think you need to be or 472 00:19:26,241 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: who you thought that you needed to be up until now. 473 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,041 Speaker 1: And once you feel neutral, don't you reckon. That's that 474 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: next step, once you feel neutral and know. For me, 475 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:35,961 Speaker 1: when I felt netral more neutral about it, I was like, oh, 476 00:19:36,001 --> 00:19:40,001 Speaker 1: I now feel safer to take the next step of exploration. Absolutely, 477 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: But before that it was like too scary to uncomfortable 478 00:19:42,241 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: that I can't do that. That's them, that's all these stories. 479 00:19:44,201 --> 00:19:46,041 Speaker 1: But once I felt neutral, I was like, maybe I 480 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,801 Speaker 1: can test the waters here, maybe I will speak like that, 481 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,721 Speaker 1: maybe you'll put this outfit on, maybe i'll post that video. 482 00:19:52,281 --> 00:19:53,881 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, let's test it. And then I got 483 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,841 Speaker 1: more comfortable with that, more confident with that now. It's 484 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,681 Speaker 1: like I want to talk about all day, every day, 485 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,561 Speaker 1: and I talk about so much on here and on 486 00:19:59,561 --> 00:20:02,241 Speaker 1: my social media, and I love it. It's more than comfortable. 487 00:20:02,321 --> 00:20:05,561 Speaker 1: It feels so right. I'm like, it's got such a 488 00:20:05,561 --> 00:20:06,881 Speaker 1: big pool to talk about it more. 489 00:20:06,921 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you start to stretch your edges. 490 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, love stretching edges. 491 00:20:11,321 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: Anyway, Anyways, we hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. 492 00:20:15,521 --> 00:20:17,281 Speaker 1: I love talking about this stuff. This is a. 493 00:20:17,201 --> 00:20:19,641 Speaker 2: Powerful one, it's impotent one, and it's also really taboo one. 494 00:20:19,721 --> 00:20:21,761 Speaker 2: So if you need any support, or you have any 495 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,521 Speaker 2: questions for us, you need any best advice, head over 496 00:20:24,561 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: to Best the Advice, because being triggered by somebody's success 497 00:20:28,321 --> 00:20:30,561 Speaker 2: really can be the reason why you don't move forward 498 00:20:30,561 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: in life and you feel really stagnant and stuck. So 499 00:20:32,761 --> 00:20:35,281 Speaker 2: if you need support on this, just send us a message. 500 00:20:35,281 --> 00:20:36,521 Speaker 2: You can put it in We're going to put it 501 00:20:36,521 --> 00:20:39,761 Speaker 2: in the description box the link to submit your anonymous submission. 502 00:20:39,801 --> 00:20:41,561 Speaker 1: You don't know who you ask. You can tell us everything, 503 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: and the more context the better. As well. It allows 504 00:20:43,681 --> 00:20:45,761 Speaker 1: us to give the advice that we would give each other. 505 00:20:45,801 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: Because we give every detail. 506 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,561 Speaker 2: We really do. And also if you have multiple things 507 00:20:50,561 --> 00:20:52,761 Speaker 2: that you're doing with put them in. You can add 508 00:20:52,801 --> 00:20:55,281 Speaker 2: multiple submissions. There's no limit on how many you want 509 00:20:55,281 --> 00:20:57,321 Speaker 2: to put through. And we love you well, yeah, we 510 00:20:57,441 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: absolutely do. We'll get them on the podcast as soon 511 00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: as we can. 512 00:20:59,681 --> 00:21:02,801 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, guys, We'll see you on preay. 513 00:21:02,801 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: Bye bye