1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Win three sixty public from Every Angle, brought 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: to you by NIV. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Joining me again the Great Gordon. Tell us it's been 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: the journator as. 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Trading Buzz Rothfield and James Hooper. 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: We've got a. 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Massive show ahead. 8 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: But Buzz breaking news this afternoon on the Trell Mitchell, 9 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: you broke the story on the Daily Telegraph. 10 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Tell us a bit about this. 11 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a long day. 12 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 5: About eleven o'clock this morning, I got an email from 13 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 5: with the photo and someone Latrell with a white powder 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 5: substance on a table and you could tell it was him, 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 5: and look, they wanted money for the photo, so I 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 5: just brushed them straight away, and we don't pay for 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 5: that sort of thing. I was in alert of the 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 5: TV network also had a copy of it, and they 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 5: went to South training this morning. They were asking players 20 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 5: and had the photo on the phone, and gradually words 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 5: started getting around that this was going to be published. 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 5: I got a photo through another source. I went straight 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: Blake soally. I went to Matt Rose, who's not his 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 5: agent but his senior advisor. They all but confirmed the 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 5: authenticity of the photo, not being. 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: Able to tell me what the white powder was. 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 5: I'd have to say, and then Souse made it a 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 5: story by saying they'd referred it to the integrity Unit. 29 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 5: And once something like that happened, We've had similar incidents 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 5: with ol homes earlier this year and the NRLL had 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 5: to look into it. I've tried to contact Latreill a 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 5: couple of times. He won't pick up the phone. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: That's where the story is. 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: So the photo was circulating all day this morning. All 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: of us in here and Fox receive the photo a 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: number of times. News publications, networks, channels all had the photo. 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: But you said they tried. Someone tried to sell it 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: to you, right. 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, first thing this morning. 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: I wasn't first thing the spat eleven o'clock here, and 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: we don't buy photos, particularly you know, grubby people trying 42 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 5: to make a quite out of someone else in the 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 5: court in an unfortunate position. 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: The trail was in Dubbo last week last weekend. 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: Good on him doing coaching clinic and I for my 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: information and from what the people I've spoken to today 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: and no one wants to go on the record, this 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 5: picture was taken in Dubbo after that coaching clinic. 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, he's a real and a question, a question 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: that you'd want. 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 6: While people would be asking, well, if it's in a 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 6: hotel room, he must know. 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 7: You would I think it's this is where I think 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 7: it's ordinary cord. He is whoever's taken the photo then 55 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 7: for it to be circulated, So it was flying around 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 7: a lot, wildfire everywhere this morning. 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: I honestly didn't see it. I think people told me. 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: That it was. 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 7: It was going around, but whoever has decided to now 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 7: put it into the public domain, it's an ordinary act. 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: What annoys mean? 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: What I think is the dog effort is the person 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: in the room taking the photo that we don't can 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: own the behavior all of maybe what the trell is 65 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: up to the person taking the photo and then the 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: person who leaked it. 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: It's like the Mitchell peer stuff. 68 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: In a way with it, you know, like as bad 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: as you were looking at it, it's I just don't 70 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: condone that at all. 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 6: But yeah, you been around a long time. What would 72 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 6: the NRL do? Well, what if v homes get. 73 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: I can't suggest for one moment Latrell's guilty and just 74 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: it's you know, we've got to presume to start off with, 75 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 5: if he makes an admission and confirms what a lot 76 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: of people believe. I would suggest he's facing a hefty fine. 77 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: I think they find Val Holmes one hundred thousand dollars 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 5: earlier this year and might have suspended him. 79 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: From any games for Australia. 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: Yes, look, it will be significant if he is found guilty, 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: but very hard one to prove. 82 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: As for your mind about that. 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 6: They couldn't prove it on Vale Homes either, because all 84 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 6: it was was a photo. 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he sort of posed up. 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 5: He's sort of posed up with white powder and mouthed 87 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: and so it was a little bit different. 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: He wasn't sort of papped. He did it himself. The 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: interesting thing. 90 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: About this foighter now, I don't know too much about 91 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: social media other than next which I'm on. It was 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: taken and then distributed on Snapchat and someone has then 93 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: screenshot it off Snapchat. Now from that you can tell 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 5: who has done that. I know the Matt Rose camp 95 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: have suspicions on who it is, and I'm certainly not 96 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: going to mention the name here for defamation reasons, but 97 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: I think the person who has put the photo out 98 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: there will have a bit to answer by the end 99 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: of the week. 100 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got a fair idea of who bus I. 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: Do, mate, but not in the position to firm it 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: up at the moment. 103 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's move on to the footy man 104 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: bites dog And it was the talk of the town. 105 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: It was the headline of the Daily Telegraph. Is that 106 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 2: your headline? 107 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: Bus Now, it wasn't made. It wasn't. I was watching 108 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 4: at home on TV and what a game. 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: A great game and the mighty Bulldogs are absolutely flying 110 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: and they smashed the dragons. But what was the come 111 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: out of this? And Buzz, you've been pretty outspoken about 112 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: it was the bite or non bite from flanagin On Crichton, Gordy, 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: what do you think about this that there? 114 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a bite. 115 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 6: There, and you can see the blood on his nose, 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 6: and you can see when it like when they slow 117 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 6: it down, and we've got the evidence of a nanosecond. 118 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 6: I suppose they can slow it down to a nanosecond 119 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 6: that you can see the nose get stretched out a 120 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 6: little bit, so there's no doubt it's a bite. Does 121 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 6: Crichton on, buzz I read your article? A Crichton's got 122 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 6: a bit to endwer for And maybe he does, But 123 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 6: then the game needs to charge him for force with 124 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 6: the head or something like that. 125 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: I think you go a bit heaven that he basically, 126 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 5: in my view, would take the head of an opponent. Really, 127 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: how did I know I was going to march into this? 128 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 5: Because you know I was going to march into this 129 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: makes a tackle too. In it, Flanagan is lying on 130 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 5: his back on the ground, trying to hold the football. 131 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 5: Crichton's face finishes on his chest. He then makes some moves, 132 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: a couple of moves, rubs his head gear and his 133 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: nose all over Flanagan's face right with force, and his 134 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: nose finished up in Flanagan's mouth. You think, now what No, 135 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 5: what I'm saying is And I've looked at it as 136 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: many times as you guys. Flanagan's head did not leave 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: the ground. He did not reach up to try and 138 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: snap it. It was forced into his mouth. And there 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 5: are mitigating circumstances. And I have no doubt Stephen Crichton 140 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 5: was to blame for the actual incident. 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So Steve Crichton closed Cole's mouth. 142 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: No, but he put his nose in his mouth. 143 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 8: Incident? 144 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 6: Did he close his mouth? You can push down on 145 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 6: the if you look at someone pushing down on force 146 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 6: and doing that, and if that's a charge in the 147 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 6: ann row, we charged Stephen Crichton, But. 148 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: What charges charge is? 149 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 7: It's got a point, my buzz has got a point 150 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 7: in that Crichton tribute. We get rugby league, you are 151 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 7: allowed there a during contact that you see one head 152 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 7: will come into contact with it used. 153 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: To be the head and it can have done it 154 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: with his head. 155 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 7: The entire incident was over in a tick over two seconds. 156 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 7: So to try and mount an argument that it's all 157 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 7: Stephen Crichton's fault, I don't think you can. 158 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: Two seconds is enough to slow down to play the ball. 159 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 8: That's what he was trying to pay it down, Buzz. 160 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: Is it a reportable offense what Stephen Crichton did to 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: flanning it? 162 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: Yes? 163 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: I think I did. 164 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: What for? 165 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: What is it forgiving him a facial? 166 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: For giving him a facial? He was apparently how many 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: times do you see a head on head like? I 168 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: agree that stevenso it a little bit too far, But 169 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: there was not There was not brutal force. 170 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: There was not. 171 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: You don't think it was brutal force like. 172 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: Streaking their nose. I don't think it was Brian. 173 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: You know what I used to did Flannagin bide him not? 174 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I want to say this question, but if bide him 175 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: or not, is that a nip? 176 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: Well, how else would the blood of a pid You're 177 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: asking me an obvious question. I am, well, what would 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: you do if someone did. 179 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: It to you? 180 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: But if it's not a reportable offense. 181 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 5: He was holding the football, He couldn't push him away. 182 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: There was nothing, no, there was nothing he could do. 183 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: But now, back in the eighties I covered many judiciary 184 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: cases down at Phillips Street, right and there was a 185 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: guy called Jim Coleman's who was the toughest judiciary guy 186 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: ever chairman right now, if he had a biding incident 187 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: like that, you know what he used to say to 188 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: the player? 189 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: What was your finger doing in his mouth? 190 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 3: Player? 191 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: Whoever? And what was his nose doing in his mouth? 192 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: I get I'm telling you, and I think you might 193 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: be shocked at the judiciary tomorrow. 194 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: Not because I expect you'll get off. 195 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 2: You get off. 196 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 6: Flanagan's favor is when Stephen cried and did complain it 197 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: wasn't right at the spot, But then it goes towards 198 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 6: Crichton because he thought about it and thought, no, it's 199 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 6: serious and I want. 200 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 8: To official complaint. He did make it. 201 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: There's two ways that can be. 202 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, but he has made the official complaint. After the game, 203 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 7: he clearly felt aggrieved. If you look at the still 204 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 7: photographs that put up on social media, you can see 205 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 7: teeth marks there. I understand your argument, Buzz, but I don't. 206 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 7: I think that's an outlandish statement to say that he's 207 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 7: going to get off. 208 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 8: I think you'll get between four and. 209 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: Six weeks an apology. 210 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 8: Absolutely, you'll get. Last year, different case got four weeks. 211 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: No one was lying on top of him, ramming his 212 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: head into it. 213 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 7: It was just because he's put his snores in his mouth, 214 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 7: doesn't inflace it. 215 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: You're just not allowed to buy it. 216 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 8: You can't bite. You allowed this since eight. 217 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: There was mitigating circumscaisn't ISA and it wasn't a conventional. 218 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: Bite like these ones. 219 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Right, So it was cost So I get your case, Bars, 220 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm not shutting it down because you make a good. 221 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: Why didn't they charge Crichton. 222 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: There's nothing charging for. 223 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: What. There's a. 224 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's getting a charge a week. 225 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 6: I think it was just SI was getting his head 226 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 6: screwed off by by Gamble when he was twisting his 227 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 6: head around. He's got just as much like you this 228 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 6: one back there. 229 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 8: Three weeks for that and you're gets off. 230 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 5: I think you will. Yeah, I think the judiciary weighed up. 231 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: They'll find mitigating circumstances, they will find that this incident 232 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: would not have happened when I did a giggle gym. 233 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 7: We're here, I'm finding it, finding it amusing. You're now 234 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 7: the juditiary panel and you're giving the. 235 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 5: Will find, like a lot of people have who read 236 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 5: the column. I've gone through the comments section, that this 237 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: incident would not have occurred if Crichton had got off 238 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: the play after he made the tackle, rather than trying 239 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: to slow it down with that. 240 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: Turn. 241 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: You're having a giggle to Buzz. 242 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 9: You know, and stand up and you're available for reation 243 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 9: down at headquarters. 244 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: I might have to produce. Sorry for having an opinion, but. 245 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So what do we think then? Do you 246 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: think he's here to spend it how long? 247 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 248 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 6: Well, if Jack White and there's circumstances there, right, so 249 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 6: it's got to be equal with Jack at. 250 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: Least Buzz thinks he's getting off. 251 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: What BLUs. He drew blood also, but. 252 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 5: He wouldn't have drawn blood if he didn't put his 253 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: nose drawn blood if he didn't. 254 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 7: Bite also gets between four and six weeks. That's just 255 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 7: a stab. We don't know until the fronts and the panel. 256 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: All right, well the bike, you're done with Buzz. 257 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm not with bus. 258 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you Blakes now that the bike shadowed what 259 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: was a great win by The Bulldogs have been on 260 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: absolute fire this year and particularly of late. 261 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: But can they challenge. 262 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: The heavyweights in this competition? Have we got them up 263 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: with the heavyweights yet? 264 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: I think they're building nicely to get there. 265 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 6: Obviously their defense is up there with the heavyweights, and 266 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,239 Speaker 6: as their attack and you just just recently Jason Taylor's getting. 267 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: A lot of raps. 268 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 6: Dragon's panicked a little bit early in this game, but 269 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 6: just their patients so great attacking teams wait for their 270 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 6: opportunities and take them, and that's what the Bulldogs did. 271 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,479 Speaker 7: The form and the momentum that Canterbury Banks down are building. Absolutely. 272 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 7: I think that they can make the top four. I 273 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 7: love the defensive system, I love the improvement in individual players. 274 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 7: Lot you look at their front row forwards, Sam Hughes 275 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 7: and Harry Hayeser by no means household big names, but 276 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 7: they're they're unsung and they are tough, hard workers and. 277 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 8: They get the job done. 278 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 7: So I think the Bulldogs can challenge for the top 279 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 7: four from what we've seen from them over the course 280 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 7: of the last month. 281 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 5: I think guy I want to wrap his Toby Sexton 282 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 5: half back on the Titans second grade on the Gold 283 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 5: Coast crazy offered to the Dogs. 284 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: Cheap as chips. He'd be on a couple of hundred. 285 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: I reckon a couple this year too. 286 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: You start, yeah. 287 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: And what he's done to see that side around the 288 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: park because Matt Burton is not an organizing half and 289 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: he's taken these kicking games beautiful. 290 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: Every week that he plays Toby, he gets better. He 291 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of goes to another level. He has taken his time. 292 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: So the Bulldogs obviously got him at a good price 293 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: and he didn't come out of the Blox. He had 294 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: a good first game for the Dogs, but then just 295 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: every week he starts to run the ball more. He's 296 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: always had that short kicking game that past the sherry 297 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: where he shapes the kick and and deceives the opposition 298 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: that the art of deception there from him, and the 299 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: confidence that he has now to even fake the kick 300 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: and then throw the pass straight away was brilliant. And 301 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: it's just confidence is king and you can see it 302 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: in him, you can see it in their team. And 303 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: momentum is everything, and these guys at the moment, they 304 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: believe they can beat anyone. They believe in each other, 305 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: they believe in themselves, and that's dangerous, especially coming into 306 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: the finals. I think they can beat some of those 307 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: top teams. I've got no doubt about it. Actually, the 308 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: way they're playing. 309 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 4: I want to play them in the finals. 310 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 7: No, no way, not with the momentum that they've got 311 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 7: at the moment. And listening to Stephen Crichton after the game, 312 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 7: he said, we'd rather save tries than score tries. It 313 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 7: just gives a little insight into the mentality that Cameron 314 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 7: Seraldo has built this year. 315 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 8: It's a great story. It's the best story in the game, and. 316 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: The Bulldogs fans are loving it, and so they should. 317 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: It's been a while and they are having a magical season. 318 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Now hoops RCG, what's going on with him that paramatter? 319 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 7: Well, we know what a rabble that the paramatterials have 320 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 7: become this year and now the latest development is that 321 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 7: the decision makers have decided that CG. Reagan Campbell Gillard 322 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 7: is surplus to requirements for next year, so they've told 323 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 7: him they've tapped him on the shoulder. 324 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 8: He's free to go. 325 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 7: It further adds to that unstable environment amongst the playing 326 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 7: group at the moment, where Blakes are not sure who's 327 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 7: coming or going. The reason Reagan's been tapped is because 328 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 7: they are unable to move on Ryan Madison and Michaeh Civo. 329 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 7: They'd previously been informed. So Reagan's the latest player he 330 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 7: won't be at Paramount and next season he'll definitely move on, 331 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 7: I think to another NRL club. The Cowboys were super keen, 332 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 7: but the Vale Holmes deal to the Dragons looks as 333 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 7: though that might be in a bit of a holding pattern. 334 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 7: So they haven't got the money available at this point 335 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 7: in time. But it's another indictment on just the decision 336 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: makers that it would absolutely be making the call. 337 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: That's where I wanted to pull you up. Heerps. 338 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 5: So we can blame Sarantinus and you know, the entire 339 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: football staff, but this is a Jason Royle's decision. He's fresh, 340 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: put his fresh eyes over the playing group and probably 341 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 5: doesn't think he can get a lot more out of 342 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 5: him next year. He's been around a while Campbell Gillard, 343 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 5: he came from Penry and I think the coach, when 344 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 5: you take on a job, you've got to make some 345 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 5: tough decisions. 346 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: Do we think it's the right decision. 347 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: I don't. 348 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 7: It's purely money right because the Eels have got constraints. 349 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 7: Everybody's got to make sure that they're under eleven and 350 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 7: a half million dollars for next season in terms of 351 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 7: the salary cap, and I don't think it is the 352 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 7: right decision. I think that he and Clint Gartherson have 353 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 7: been the heart and soul of holding together that playing 354 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 7: group this season. His performance against Penrith was outstanding. It 355 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 7: was a fairly understrength Paramaut side and for them to 356 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 7: know it. 357 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: I think he struggled as much as any of the 358 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: other players early in the year and did not justify 359 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: the eight hundred thousand that he's earning. 360 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 8: Missed this win. They're better players, this win over. 361 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: New Zerland and that gutsy performance against Penrith can camouflage 362 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: this season and the train wreck that it's been, and 363 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: it's been a train wreck because reading Campbell Gillard and 364 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: a few of his mates didn't. 365 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: Provide value to their salary. Cap Ernie. 366 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's also burned a train wreck because 367 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 7: a lot of the decisions that the power boakers at 368 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 7: the club have made. They've moved on Brad Arthur, They've 369 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 7: failed to retain Blaze to Lungey. We could go on 370 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 7: and on and on the options in contracts. It hasn't 371 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 7: been a good setup. And unfortunately, I feel for Jason 372 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 7: Roles at the moment because it's a big job and 373 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 7: he's going in as a rookie RL head coach and 374 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 7: he's going to need a lot of good people around him. 375 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: He will. 376 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 5: It's good with Campbell Gillard because South need a front rower. 377 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 5: West Tiger's need a front rower. Some Georgia Lawarra the 378 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: best forwards. 379 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: I know. 380 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: We are saying yeah, yeah, I think not early on mate. 381 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: The coach got sacked. 382 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you name you name one of their players that 383 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 6: were playing for their potential. 384 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: I think he's nothing right the front row he was 385 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: when they made the grand for you. 386 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 7: Watch it here, you watch a change of environment. It 387 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 7: was only aden months ago twenty two. You watched a 388 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 7: change for environment. I reckon, we'll see you Reagan Campbell 389 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 7: Gill had refreshed. 390 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Next we'll get back to PARAMOUNTA. You mentioned Vale Holmes before. 391 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: Where's that situation at. 392 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think did Shane Flannagan fly up there? 393 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: Buzz Is that right Thursday? Yeah, Towns. 394 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 7: He actually has flown up there and had a meeting 395 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 7: with Val. I think it was all tracking in the 396 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 7: right direction, but then it's hit a stumbling block. I 397 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 7: think Vale's now gone back to the club and said, 398 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 7: you know what, I've spoken to my family and I'm 399 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 7: actually thinking I might prefer to see out my contract. 400 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 7: He's got next year to run as well, and so 401 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 7: the Cowboys have now got to try and maneuver the 402 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 7: situation to get the best result. 403 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 5: That's a pretty strange move in that vow will be guaranteed, 404 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 5: but eight hundred thousand of the Cowboys next year. I 405 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: think he's, yeah, well whatever, if he goes to Georgia Lawara, 406 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: he gets three years of eight hundred and fifty thousand, 407 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: so you know he's thinking about his family. 408 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 6: Obviously, beautiful North Queensland. There is another one day Perfect. 409 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 5: There was another really interesting sidelight to this story. In 410 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 5: the vow Holmes and his manager went banging on the 411 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 5: door at the Sydney Roosters not so long ago, knowing 412 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 5: Joseph Swali he and Joey Mahn who were leaving his 413 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: great mates with Chad Townsend, and he would have been 414 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: very comfortable there in that system, like a lot of players. 415 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: But the Roosters don't have the space. They've told me 416 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 4: to entertain it. 417 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: What about the Mitchell Moses situation? Bars, have you got 418 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: an update on us? All that speculation. 419 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 5: It's driving me mad this story. And look, Hoops, you 420 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: you coursed it all last Phil. 421 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: Ye. 422 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was a very strong opinion that you 423 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: suggesting that he wouldn't be there next season. So I 424 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: spent my entire Friday speaking to Paramatter, speaking to Isaac Moses. 425 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Exciting day. 426 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: Oh, the text message exchanges, and all I kept saying 427 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: to them was please guarantee he'll be there for the 428 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 5: next two years. And they I even said, I'll give 429 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 5: you a little Saturday morning before Colin goes off. 430 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: To the Lois you write a story about yeah, and 431 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: they will not guarantee he'll be there. 432 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: You're back, You're back, in. 433 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: Mate. 434 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 7: I've always said, appreciated by You've got a lot of 435 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 7: good in it breaking. The reason they won't guarantee it 436 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 7: is because they can't guarantee it. And you can go well, 437 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 7: you can go back as far as six weeks. And 438 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 7: I think there was a story in the Sydney Morning 439 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 7: Herald where it said that Mitchell Mases said had to 440 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 7: blow up in the dressing rooms, and you know he'd 441 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 7: reference club management and the players need to be better 442 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 7: and it's all about the playing group. We can't let 443 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 7: their ineptitude and their mistakes start the impact on our performance. 444 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 7: So I don't think Mitchell wouldn't be the lone ranger 445 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: who's not a happy camper at Paramount. 446 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 6: The reason why I believe hoops is because if I'm 447 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 6: the club, I come out and deny, and if I'm the. 448 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: Player, but that's put the bed within it seven days. 449 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: That's where Paramounts management is soft. And I went to 450 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: Jim Sarantinus. He said, look, I put out a denial. 451 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: We've spoken to Mitchell and he's happy. I said to him, 452 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 5: why don't you get mit Mitchell to put two paragraphs 453 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 5: out I'm committed to paramatter and I'm looking forward to 454 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 5: the rebuilt. 455 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: He wouldn't do it, neither would his manager. 456 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: So it's okay for these clubs to say that. But 457 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: when you go to the actual person, the subject of 458 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: the speculation, and they don't want to be party to. 459 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: It, you're saying you're seeking the story, but it sounds 460 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: like the story. I ain't going to go away. 461 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 7: On the flip side for Mitch, I think you're right, 462 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 7: But on the flip side for Mitch too, like a 463 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 7: lot of his good mates have been tapped on the 464 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 7: shoulder and told to move on. They've sacked the coach 465 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 7: that he was close to and helped him become the 466 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 7: player that took Paramatta or Grand Final only eight and 467 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 7: months ago. I can understand it goes both ways. Clubs 468 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 7: want to move players on, and that's okay, But then 469 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 7: all of a sudden, for play goes wing on. 470 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 8: A minute. 471 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 7: Is this window closing? And I'm not sure that these 472 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 7: blokes this is actually the best setup to try and 473 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 7: reach my potential. At the moment, he's twenty one, turning 474 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 7: thirty in September. I can understand it all. 475 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: Right, Well, the Tigers are now questioning Stefano's contract with 476 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the Melbourne Storm. They want do they want to see 477 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: the contract? Do they want to answers? Is there a 478 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: question mark over that? What's going on here? 479 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: Well, you know I've spoke to his manager on a 480 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 5: number of occasions. 481 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't know what the questions are about. 482 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: I know that daniel A Lachlan and Matt Tritt both 483 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: spoke to the NRL salary cap ordered before the contract 484 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 5: was even submitted. Now, if Shane Richardson's not happy, it's 485 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: so simple. A player like Stefano, you have a choice 486 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: out of Bellamy or Benji, where do you go? If 487 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 5: you've got a choice out of the Wooden spoon and 488 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 5: the team at the top, let me finish the top 489 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: of the table, where do you go? 490 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 491 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: One hundred grand less than the West Tigers. But this 492 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: always twenty five years of age he wants to. 493 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: It's hard to believe. 494 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 6: But with that scenario, that means it's hard to believe 495 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty players to go get coached by 496 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: Craig Bellamy. Well they can't fit coach by Trent Robinson, 497 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 6: or go get coached by Wayne doth. 498 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: It's true, these people are magnets and their organizations are. 499 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 6: There for a club to say, can we just see 500 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 6: like for the bottom clubs? As I keep on saying, 501 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 6: at the moment, it looks like that the bottom made 502 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 6: of feeding. 503 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: Clubs to the top eight, I think. And if I'm 504 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: in the bottom club, I would be asking the same. 505 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Bottom club I would be looking to get mad together 506 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: when you sign it, When you sign a player, you 507 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: need to disclose it to the NRL absolutely and. 508 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 7: It has to be officially registered by the NRL after 509 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 7: being viewed by the Salary cap auditor. So there's no 510 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 7: issues with the Melbourne Storm contract. What it is is 511 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 7: rich has got the ships because he missed out on 512 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 7: Stefano and retaining him for five seasons. They saw Stefano 513 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 7: as a young four that they could build the club around. 514 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 7: He's decided to go to Melbourne and link up with 515 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 7: Craig Bellamy. 516 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 8: I can. 517 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 7: I can understand what Stefano's made that decision, But there's 518 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 7: Richo is just frustrated that he missed his mark. 519 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: It's not rocket science where he wants to leave exactly 520 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: how it is? 521 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 5: I mean, and rich I sitting there mate with a 522 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: two million dollar check book you know, with Stefano going 523 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 5: and other players leaving, and it's hard. It's really really hard, 524 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 5: particularly when they haven't announced this new assistant and Canterbury have. 525 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really interesting one. 526 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure is. 527 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Now Graham and Wensley has addressed the Panthers controversial match 528 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: winning try. Take a look, yep, catches it beyond and 529 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: it's a defensive decision blazing Liam's feet on a gams 530 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: in Yes, what's the feet collide which puts him off balance? 531 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: So we're playing on. 532 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 10: It's a perfectly valid explanation by the Bunker of why 533 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 10: they reached the decision. So there are collisions that happen 534 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 10: on the field all the time that aren't as a 535 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 10: result of anyone, you know, intentionally breaking the rules. What's 536 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 10: my view? My view is I support the decision that 537 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 10: they made. 538 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: This was a controversial one. 539 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Coach Trent Bart wasn't happy about this after the game. 540 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: How did you guys see this? 541 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 6: If it's on the try line, I say it's now 542 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 6: try because I watch you get pulled back every week. 543 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 8: He's running at his inside shoulder. 544 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 7: I can understand why base was frustrated after that loss. 545 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 7: Like for Penrith, to manufacture three trials in three minutes away. 546 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 7: That they did was quite simply incredible. But if you 547 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 7: watch that line there, I can understand why they came 548 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 7: up with the decision. He's running at the inside shoulder. 549 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 6: He still knocks him over, but it does inside outside shoulder. 550 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 6: Liam Martin's big, You've got to stand your ground. He 551 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 6: knocked him over, but. 552 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 5: Leam Martin got tripped Gordy and that's what made him 553 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 5: fall awkwardly. 554 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: Into the other player. He didn't stop in the line. 555 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 6: I get all that, but did he did not take 556 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 6: an opportunity to turn around and chase. 557 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: It because he was tripped And look, I'm fifty to 558 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 5: fifty on it. You've seen it so many times this 559 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 5: year where it would be disallowed. 560 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's why it's a bit of a tough 561 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: one to take and a bit of pill to swallow 562 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: for the Paramatta fans and also Trent bat Now, the 563 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: head eye confusion over the last few weeks has been 564 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: amping up. 565 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: Really penalty. 566 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: We'll have look at this one first. 567 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Couldn't quite understand this one on the weekend, and there 568 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: were a few. 569 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: This was for a head eye. 570 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: This was a penalty that got the Dolphins out to 571 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: an eight point lead, and that was heading into halftime. 572 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: I don't even think ray Stone knew that it was. 573 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 7: That's a great three love tap that one there. But 574 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 7: I cannot believe. 575 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: My point here is that we're seeing a lot of this, 576 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: a lot of this over the last few weeks. And 577 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: you know what if the rule is you just can't 578 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: touch the head at all, and maybe the players need 579 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: to know that, but there's they've definitely tightened up on this. 580 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: This was the first one and it was a bit 581 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: of a momentum swing got them to an eight point lead. 582 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: That obviously two tries behind for the Warriors. This one here, now, 583 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: we didn't think this was a ten in the bin 584 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: on the Sunday ticket penal. Yes, he hits him high, 585 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: but is this ten in the bin now? I'm not 586 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: so sure. 587 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: How did you guys see it? 588 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 7: No, I was surprised. I was with you that when 589 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 7: it was a sin incident. I think there's a lot 590 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 7: of confusion raining at the moment around so many different decisions. 591 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 8: Whether it's disruptors, obstruction. 592 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 7: Contact with the head, level of force, degree of force. 593 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 8: It seems to me breathless. 594 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 7: Are there's too many people in the referees because you've 595 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 7: got people in the man. 596 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 4: But he knocked him out shoulder to the head. 597 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: He didn't, he didn't. He didn't come back. 598 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: He didn't come back from that, didn't come back, and 599 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: he was aware. 600 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: We actually thought that he heard his lower leg. 601 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 6: I called this when I called this game for trip Lamp, 602 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 6: I thought he got a lower leg injury. 603 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, and then think it's in the bin. 604 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: Then and then when I. 605 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 6: Saw his mouth guard come out, it's like down your 606 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 6: mouth guard gives knocked out of his mouth is forced 607 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 6: to your jaw. 608 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: So I understand that, don't disagree, But is that tend 609 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: in the bin now because we're going to the final? 610 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: Is a head mate? 611 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: That's my point. I'm okay. 612 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 6: Look, I think when a player goes off and he 613 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 6: doesn't come back on. 614 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: So it will depend on the players reaction. 615 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 6: Well, he's knocked out, so I reckon, I have time, 616 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: So I reckon, I have time. Here, Look there my 617 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 6: look and he's out, look and he falls with nothing. 618 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 5: And you said, well, the interesting one is the first one, 619 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: the two bus of sheep high shot, which wasn't really high. 620 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 5: It was made by a referee with no help from 621 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 5: the bunker, and in these sort of situations you need 622 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: to be so sure, you sort of need them to 623 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 5: have a look at it, but you can't stop the game. 624 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: It's just a little bit of a concern, I think 625 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: heading into the finals. 626 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 6: And you know a lot of this and it just 627 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 6: proves that we're all sitting there and we don't agree 628 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: he's actually all right. 629 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: Journal There's plenty more to come and next Monday of 630 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Original production behind the scenes look into the 631 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season. 632 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: Launch in Las Vegas. 633 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: NRL Hits Vegas Dream to Reality premiere is next Monday 634 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: after NRL three sixty