1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the land of the Gadigel 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: people of the Eur Nation. Hello and welcome to the 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Real Story with Joe Hildebrand. I'm Joe Hildebrand and that 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: is the real story, and we're also going to bring 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: you the real story behind the appointment of Matt Kean 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: as the government's new Climate dare. How long has this 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: been going on for and why did it even happen? 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Also the gg's massive two hundred thousand dollars pay rise. 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: What the f is going on there? And nuclear turns 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: out most Australians are in favor of it, or are they? 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers, it tells you a 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: very different story. Plus the far left and the far right. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: I've always said that all extremists are the same, and 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: now I have the proof. All that more coming up. 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: First of all, today I want to get into what 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: was going to be the big story of the week 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: before a whole bunch of other big stories took over, 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: and that is the appointment of Matt Kean as the 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: new chair of the Climate Change or Authority. Now, the 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: government thought that Alberanese government, that is, thought that this 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: was a massive coup that they'd managed to wedge the 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: Libs they'd managed to nab Matt Keen, who of course 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: is a former New South Wales Treasurer and Energy Minister 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and the leader of the Moderate faction in New South Wales, 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: that they'd been able to nab him, get him out 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: of the New South Wales Parliament, put him in charge 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: of their Climate Change Authority, and babing ba boom, we've 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: got a brand new shiny weapon with which to whack 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: the Libs over their division on climate change. In fact, 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I think it was a bit more of an own goal. 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Anthony Albanesi announcing the appointment earlier this week. 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: Today Cabinet has agreed to appoint the Honorable Matt Kean 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: as Chair of the Climate Change Authority. As a former 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: New South Wales Treasurer and Minister for Energy and the Environment, 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: mister Kean is uniquely qualified. 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: So again you'd normally think we've got a LIB to 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: say that our policy is better. We've got a LIB 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: to say that nuclear isn't the way to go. This 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: wedges Peter Darton. That divides his party and is a mess. 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: In fact, it doesn't do anything of the sort. The 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: thing is that Matt Kean is loathed in the Liberal Party. 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: People in the Liberal Party, especially to the right, think 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: that he's already a labor wolf in sheep's clothing. Now, 44 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: I've got no problem with Matt Kean, always had a 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: really good relationship with him. But that is what people 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: on the right thing. He's already seen as a pariah, 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: as a judas, as someone who is liberal in name only, 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: and if you appeel it back, probably looks a bit 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: more like a teal. So far from actually wedging the 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Liberal Party, this just confirms what everyone in the Liberal 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Party who's left we'll get to that later already thinks, 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: there you go, we told you so. Matt Kean is 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: a turncoat, he's a trader, and now we've got the 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: pre So labor has actually just legitimized the conservative position 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: on Matt Kean. Far from splitting the Libs, they've confirmed 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: what the Libs actually already think. And yes, back in 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: the day it might have split the Liberal Party. But 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: guess what all those moderates who Matt Kean controlled, and 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: all those moderates who would have supported or followed Matt 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Kean's lead on these sorts of issues, guess what they're 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: gone and why are they gone? That's right, the Teals 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: as usual on every single issue. Everything is the fault 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: of the Teals because they've knocked out all the moderates 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: in the Federal Party that would have actually been swayed 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: by Matt Kean's appointment. And so now the government is 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: left holding what is basically this kind of lame duck, 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: and they're making the same mistake that they made ten 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: years ago the last time they are in power, when 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: the Gillard government rolled out a big name celebrity to 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: spook its carbon tax, do you remember these finally doing 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: something about climate change. Yes, When the Labor Party wanted 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: to sell its climate policy last time around, it got 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: the most respected, lauded, well connected, high profile, accoladed actress 74 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: on the global stage, Kate Blanchett, Lady Kate. And again 75 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: there was a bit of a problem with this because 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: anyone who respected Kate Blanchett, anyone who listened to Kate Blanchett, 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: would know that she's already incredibly outspoken on things like 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: climate change. And so if you like Kate Blanchett, you're 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: already all in. She's not changing any minds. What they 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: should have done is get Shane warn And I told 81 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: him so at the time, nobody listened. And this is 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: the point with Matt Kean. Anyone who likes Matt Kean, 83 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: I like Matt Kean. Anyone who respects Matt Kean's views, 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: anyone who follows him is going to be persuaded by him. 85 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: They're already all in on climate change. You're not changing 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: any minds. What you want to get is the people 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: who are hesitant about it, cynical about it, or opposed. 88 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: You want to get them in. So you want to 89 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: actually surprise people with appointments like these. You want to 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: actually say, hey, bet you didn't know this guy was 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: on our side. And then people go, oh yeah, all right, 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I'll pay attention. This is what I call the Coals 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Kennett fresh bread solution. See when Coles was attacked 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: by Jeff Kennett for not selling fresh bread, what did 95 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: they do. They didn't appoint someone who already said that 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: coals is bread as the best to be their bread 97 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: making checker za whatever you want to call it. No, 98 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: they said, all right, Jeff, we'll take your word for it, 99 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: and you are now in charge of our bread quality control. 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: You are now the guy who determines whether our bread 101 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: is fresh. So you don't get the person who's already 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: saying the bread is fresh to tell you that the 103 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: bread is fresh. You get the person who doesn't believe it, 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: the last person you'd expect, and you bring them round. 105 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: And if you bring them round, you're bringing everyone else 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: around as well. So instead of getting, you know, the 107 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Christian to preach to the choir, what you want to 108 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: get is the app estate to be converted. Sadly, that 109 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the only own goal for the Albanezy government this week. 110 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: And again, everyone knows I'm soft on elbow. Everyone knows 111 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: I love him, So when I'm saying shit's going really badly, 112 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: trust me, shit is going really, really badly. The other 113 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: big mistake they made was when one of their MP's 114 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: introduced a bill to increase the Governor General's salary by 115 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars by around half a million dollars 116 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: per annum half a million bucks a year. That's not enough. 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: Keep in mind she's not paying rent. She's already got 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: two mansions, one Admiralty House on Sydney Harbor, pretty nice 119 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: digs and the other of course, Yara Lumla in Canberra, 120 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: so rental prices are not going to be a factor. 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: She does not need rent assistance yet. Even so, she's 122 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: been given a pay rise of two hundred thousand dollars 123 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: on top of the existing a million a year she 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: was always going to get, so she'll be pulling in 125 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: more than seven hundred thousand dollars a year now. The 126 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: reasons for this are ridiculously convoluted. The previous Governor General 127 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: was going to have a military pension. This governor General 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: was not, although this Governor General still gets a pension 129 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: of I think sixty percent of the Chief Justice of 130 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the High Courts pension. And this is, of course, you know, 131 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: someone who rules on the highest legal matters of the land, 132 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: compared to someone whose role is entirely ceremonial, who cuts 133 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: a few ribbons. And you know, is technically the head 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: of our armed forces. But I don't think she's going 135 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: to be leading them into battle any time soon. Point being, 136 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 1: this is a terrible, terrible, terrible look at a time 137 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: when people are really struggling under cost of living pressures. 138 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: And this week we had higher than expected inflation, which 139 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: raises the prospect of another interest rate hike. Yes, that's right, 140 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: a rise, not a cut before the end of the year, 141 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: possibly even August or September. It's now fifty to fifty 142 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: chance the market is betting on for a rate rise 143 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: in September. So this is absolutely terrifying for anyone with 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: a mortgage. And then at the same time you've got 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: someone who gets two tax payer funded mansions absolutely free, 146 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: getting a pay rise from five hundred grand a year 147 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: to seven hundred grand a year. Now, this is an 148 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: absolutely appalling. Look. The opposition of course attacked the government 149 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: for doing this shortly before it then voted to support 150 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: the two hundred thousand dollars a year pay rise. So 151 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: they're just as bad as anyone else. And of course 152 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: we all know why they do it, because when they 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: get the cushy jobs after they retire, they want to 154 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: make sure that they've got plenty of dosh in their 155 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: kit as well. But this just could not have come 156 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: at a worse time for the government. Again, we've got 157 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: cost of living pressures killing us, we've got mortgage rate 158 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: rises through the wazoo, we've got the tightest rental market 159 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: in a generation, and someone with two giant mansions after look, 160 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: after every need says no, five hundred grand a year, sorry, 161 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: not quite enough. That's not going to cover my parking. 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: I'd like to have seven hundred grand a year, thank 163 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: you very much. This is absolutely appalling and whoever was 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: involved in it, whether it was the GG herself or 165 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: the government, should have seen this. There should have been 166 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: alarm bells all over it. And instead, very nice young 167 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: MP Patrick Gorman, I'm sorry mate, they really hung him 168 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: out to dry on this one, whether with an invisible 169 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: gun to his head or not. Has to put this 170 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: bill through Parliament and saying ah, which a mind just 171 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: quickly signing this. Sorry, she starts next week. Anyone for 172 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: whom this didn't raise the biggest possible alarm bells has 173 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: no business being a politician. They have no business being 174 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: a public representative because the public absolutely despised it. This 175 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: was on the front page of every single newspaper, every 176 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: single major metropolitan newspaper in the country, and it didn't 177 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: have to be. It was a terrible story for the government. 178 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: It was an absolute terrible look for the GG. Of course, 179 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: it reinforces this message to people doing it incredibly tough 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: that the elites. Meanwhile, the people at the top of 181 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: the tree. The people at the top of the pile, 182 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: they're just to yacking it up. And not only they 183 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: yacking it up on their giant taxpayer funded salaries, they're 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: actually asking for more an awful, awful, awful own goal 185 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: in a week of own goals for the Albanese government. 186 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: And then we get to the icing on the cake 187 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: ball number three in the hat trick, third runner and 188 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: the trifector. The incredible work of Senator Fatima Payman from Wa. 189 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: She just got elected in twenty twenty two with the 190 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: Albanesi government. She was put on the Senate ticket in 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Wa in a winnable position. That meant that once the 192 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: government got elected, she was almost certain to get elected 193 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: as well, and indeed she duly was. And how has 194 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: she rewarded the Australian Labor Party for this immense privilege. 195 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: She has committed the ultimate labor sin. She has committed 196 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: the ultimate labor act of treachery, and that is she 197 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: has crossed the floor in the Senate to vote with 198 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: the Greens on a ridiculous, pointless symbolic motion about you 199 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: guessed at Palestine. Of course, Now, firstly you need to 200 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: know what the Labor Party stance is on crossing the floor, 201 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: and that is it is a sackable offense. You can 202 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: be dismissed from the Labor Party, expelled, ex communicado for 203 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: crossing the floor. It almost never happens. The last time 204 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: it happened was almost twenty years ago, and the last 205 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: time it happened in government was almost four decades ago. 206 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: And that's because people who do it know that they 207 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: are basically walking to their deaths. They are walking the plank, 208 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: and it would take an extraordinary act for them to 209 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: be allowed to remain in the party. Sometimes they are 210 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary circumstances, not in this case. So, just to recap, 211 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: there was a vote in the Senate brought by the 212 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Greens about how much they supported Palestine. Labor tried to 213 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: alter it to say that, you know, we also support 214 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: a two state solution, but no, of course the Greens 215 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: knocked that on the head because they're a bunch of 216 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: crazy extremists. And we'll get to that later too. And 217 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: instead of just going along with the Labor Party line 218 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: as every single MP and senator always does, Fatima Payment 219 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: decided that she was going to cross the floor and 220 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: vote with the Greens vote with Lydia Thorpe on this 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: absolutely pointless bill. Now, this bill, this motion in the 222 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Senate was never going to get carried, so I was 223 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: never even going to get up, even with Fatima Payment's vote, 224 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: So it had no impact on the vote itself. And 225 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: even if the vote had gotten up, it would have 226 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: had absolutely no impact whatsoever on the war between Israel 227 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: and Palestine. It's not like Benjaminette, nowho's going The Australian 228 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Senate voted Ah dear, they voted against me. Oh well, 229 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: I better stop. I'm afraid that's not how international relations works. 230 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: And so this was a complete virtue signaling exercise, purely 231 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: for the senator's own vanity, or perhaps just so she 232 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: could sleep well at night. And yet so many other 233 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: labor MPs over the years have made the simplest of 234 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: sacrifices for the sake of party unity and for the sake, 235 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: in the case of this week, of not kicking a 236 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: government when it's down. As we've just recounted, a government 237 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: has more than enough problems without one of its own 238 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: senators deliberately adding to them. But instead instead of just saying, right, okay, 239 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: what can I do to help the Anthony Albanezi Labor 240 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: government in its darkest hour. She crossed the floor and 241 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: kicked it in the nuts. And of course, amid all this, 242 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: you've still got the climate wars raging. As if the 243 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: government didn't have enough problems on its plate, it's got 244 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: Peter Dutton's nuclear power plan that it still just doesn't 245 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: seem to know quite what to do about. It. Seems 246 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: that appointing Matt Kean didn't make the issue go away, 247 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: so it's unclear what else they've got up their sleeve. 248 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: And some troubling results in a new poll that was 249 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: commissioned over the last few days which found a majority 250 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: of Australians support nuclear energy. Shock horror, Six in ten 251 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: Australians say that they support nuclear energy as part of 252 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: the nation's energy mix. That's a survey of nine hundred 253 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: and twenty three randomly selected people conducted over the weekend. 254 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: That was just after, of course, Peter Dutton announced his 255 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: plan to build seven nuclear power plants and outline the 256 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: seven locations, but not how much each or any of 257 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: them would cost or how much power they would produce. 258 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: Even so, sixty percent of voters said nuclear power has 259 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: a place in Australia's future energy mix a bit of 260 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: a worry. Huh, Well maybe not because guess what. When 261 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: you ask people if they believe nuclear power has a 262 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: place in Australia's future energy mix, yes, sixty percent, Oh, absolutely, 263 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: for sure, yep, absolutely support it, and only forty percent 264 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: said no. But when they were asked, would you be 265 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with a nuclear reactor being built in your state 266 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: or region, fifty three percent said no. So suddenly a majority, 267 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: and a pretty solid majority of Australians are not so 268 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: keen on nuclear when the prospect is raised of it 269 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: being built not just in their backyard but in their state. 270 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: And this gets back to what I've been saying on 271 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: this show since they dot, which is that everyone is 272 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: going to say, oh, yes, of course, I'm not a luddye. 273 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a knuckle drag. I've come out 274 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: of the caves. Of course I understand and that nuclear 275 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: now is safe and reliable, and of course I support it. 276 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: It's a really common sense way to get to net 277 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: zero if the economic stacks up. Of course, but as 278 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: soon as people are asked do you want it in 279 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: your area? Do you want it in your region? Do 280 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: you even want it in your state. Suddenly that number 281 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: flips and you've got a majority say, actually, no, no, 282 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't support what here. Oh no, no, no, it's 283 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: not the nuclear I pose. Of course, it's just the parking. 284 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: And it's the exact same thing. Of course. People say 285 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: about housing. Oh, yes, we support more housing, more high 286 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: density housing. Oh, absolutely, the nation needs it. Oh it's 287 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: terrible young people these days can't get anywhere to live. 288 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Oh not a building in my street. Oh no, sorry, yeah, no, 289 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: of course I support more housing. But it's the parking. 290 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: It's just the parking. You don't even ask about the mosque. 291 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: It's very tolerant. The parking. It's always a worry. And finally, 292 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: on the real story, I want to give you the 293 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: real story behind pretty much everything you need to know 294 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: about politics, and that is that all extremists are the same. 295 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: Now often say that all good governments are the same 296 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: because if people with half a brain in their heads 297 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: and half a heart in their chests are confronted with 298 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: the same problems, they'll usually come up with the same 299 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: or similar solutions, because there's obviously a solution that makes 300 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: sense and is the best for the most people, and 301 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: in just that way, all ideologues who are out on 302 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: the far flung fringes of politics often end up gravitating 303 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: towards the same crazy ideas. Yes, the far left and 304 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: the far right are exactly the same, but don't just 305 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: take my word for it, because we have real life, 306 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: real time examples unfolding before our very eyes, and by gosh, 307 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: it's glorious to behold. The first is a call from 308 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: a one Nation MP. Yes that's right, Paulin Hansen's one Nation, 309 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: a one Nation MP in South Australia to light up 310 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the city of Adelaide in the colors of Palestine. Yes, 311 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: that's right. One Nation South Australia has joined the Palestinian cause. 312 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: It has actually joined the Greens One Nation and the 313 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: Greens on a unity ticket to call on the government, 314 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: led by the Mighty Peter melanowskis to light up Adelaide 315 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: to show solidarity with Palestine now again, just as Benjamin 316 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Netanyaho I'm sure is keeping a close eye on Senate 317 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: votes to see whether he should launch his latest incursion 318 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: into guards. I'm sure he's watching is his real time 319 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: live stream of the Adelaide city scape, And what a 320 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: beautiful city it is to see whether or not it 321 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: gets lit up in the colors of the Palestinian flag, 322 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: to see whether or not he's going to launch his 323 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: next bombing raid. But anyway, that's not the point. The 324 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: point is that one Nation and the Greens are literally 325 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: on a unity ticket in South Australia, both calling for 326 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: voting for supporting the exact same thing. But it's not 327 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: just the Jews who bring the far right and the 328 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: far left together in a beautiful handholding display of unity. 329 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: There's another person who does it as well. And he's 330 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: a person I know well, reasonably well. In fact, he's 331 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: a person who I've had round to my house for dinner. 332 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: And that person is, of course, Julie Massange. Now I 333 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: better tell you this story because it's a bloody good one. 334 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: But I've met Julian Assange. I knew him. I was 335 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: in on Julian Assange before he was cool, you know 336 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. I knew this guy before Wiki leaks 337 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: was even a thing. In fact, a friend of mine 338 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: helped bankroll Wiki leaks. I think he also helped bankroll 339 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: quite a few members of Juliassange's family as well. But 340 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: let me tell you this story many many years ago. Now, 341 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I was in Melbourne, a bloke who shall remain nameless 342 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: because he thinks he's being hunted by the European intell 343 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: ENT's authorities. But he was in a motorcycle accident. He 344 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: made some poor decisions and one of them was to 345 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: try to ride cross country to catch up with a 346 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: bunch of other motorcyclists that he was riding along with, 347 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: and he hit an obstacle, and then his head hit 348 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: an obstacle and he got an acquired brain injury. Now 349 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: I only knew him after he acquired this brain injury, 350 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: and the story is just phenomenal. Basically, he was immediately unconscious. 351 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: He was immediately placed in a coma, and they thought 352 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: he'd never wake up. They thought he's either going to 353 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: die or he'll just end up being a vegetable, or 354 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, there's no hope frohim. So they basically just 355 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: threw a blanket over him and sat him in front 356 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: of the TV. And then a few weeks later he 357 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: woke up and he started talking again, and he started 358 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: talking in an American accent because he basically learnt English 359 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: again from the TV, so his accent was almost the 360 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: exact same proportion of American as American content on the 361 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: television of the nineteen nineties. Amazing stuff. Anyway, So he's 362 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: in all sorts. He's got brain injuries, got physical injuries, 363 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: and he's legally blind. But it's never stopped anyone in 364 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: politics before. And this guy gets this massive payout from 365 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: the Victorian state government. So the state government had this 366 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: thing called the Transport Accident Commission, which was a no 367 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: fault scheme that covered all road accidents. It's actually what 368 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: the NDIS was initially based on, was initially supposed to replicate. 369 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: So the idea was that if you were disabled, if 370 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: you were injured in any accident on Victorian roads, you're 371 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: entitled to pay out. You're entitled to financial compensation, no 372 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: matter whose fault it was. If it was your fault 373 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: or if it was someone else's, it didn't matter. And 374 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: this was seen as a very sort of humane way. 375 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: And then of course people were looking at this thing. 376 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Hang on a minute, how is it fair that if 377 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: I have an accident on the road the state you've 378 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: been minded and if I have an accident anywhere else, 379 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: I get nothing. And this was how the India started 380 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: to germinate and said, why don't we have a national 381 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: statutory scheme, no fault scheme, so anyone who ends up 382 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: disabled is entitled for certain payments. Anyway, I digress. Let's 383 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: get back to julianushn't so this guy, my friend, got 384 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: a brain injury. I can't stress this enough because this 385 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: is why this happens the way it does. And he 386 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: starts obviously getting involved in all sorts of weird conspiracy 387 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: theories or these really weird sort of fads that come 388 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: along anything that's advertised on late night television. He seems 389 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: to have absolutely no resistance to and buying it, because, 390 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: after all, the television was his teacher. So he suddenly 391 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: accumulates all this crap. His financial advisor, which comes along 392 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: with the payout as just tearing his hair out. He's 393 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: always fighting with him and saying, you know, why did 394 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: you buy this from dem tel and anyway, so he's 395 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: always looking for ways to throw his money away needlessly, 396 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: and he's always got people desperately trying to stop him. 397 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: And he falls in with this crowd in Melbourne on 398 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the sort of university scene, and one of them is 399 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: this young chap called Julie Massange, who spins him this tale, says, 400 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: you won't believe what I'm going to do. I'm going 401 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: to start this incredible online data dump system where people 402 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: can just take all these top secret documents from the 403 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: CIA and all these secret intelligence organizations and they can 404 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: just put them there anonymously so they won't get caught. 405 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: And then I'll release them to the world and expose 406 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: all these conspiracies and expose all these secrets and the 407 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: evil imperialism of America and the war machine. And of 408 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: course for my mate who has just ride up this 409 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: like a right up a drain pipe, this just sends 410 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: all his signapses fire, and he's like, just stop right now, 411 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: where do I sign? Where do I sign? How much 412 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: do you want? Just take it? Take it, take it. 413 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: And next thing you know, he's throwing all this money 414 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: at Julie Massange. God knows where it's going. And me 415 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: and my other mate, Darren, hear about this because he 416 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: tells you. Of course, he's telling us, oh, you won't 417 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: believe this. They're starting this new wiki leakues thing, and 418 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: it's going to train the world. The body Darren's also 419 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: called Bunny, and so we think, well, this is this 420 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: guy's ripping our mate off. We've got to stop this. 421 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: We've taken him for a ride. And so we're living 422 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: together in Sydney at the time, me and Darren, not 423 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: me and Julian No Sange, and my mate is Insidia 424 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: at the time, and said, we want to meet this guy, 425 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: Juliana Sange, who's taken all your money. We want to 426 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: meet him. Oh, great, bunny, great Johnny. He calls me Johnny, 427 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: just like he calls Darren Barney. Like I said, he's 428 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: brain damaged. And so we invite Juliana Sane over to 429 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: our house for dinner. I cook an amazing spaghetti bolonnaise, 430 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: so I'm whipping that up and my friend comes over. 431 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: Everyone's sitting down, everyone's had a bit to drink, and 432 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: Julian Assange rocks up without a bottle of wine or 433 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: even a cask. I'm not fussy nothing. Empty handy. He 434 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: rocks up to a dinner. He knew it was dinner. 435 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: He rocks up empty handed. That's the first black mark 436 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: against his name. We knew he was sus then. And 437 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: then he comes in, you know, we quiz him about 438 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and we just think he's kind of 439 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: a bit weird, and you know, it's just we asked 440 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: him to explain whatever it is he's doing, Steve. It 441 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: checks out. We had no idea about it. We didn't 442 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: even think the internet was going to last, but whatever. 443 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: So he's telling us all this stuff and we're going, oh, yeah, right, whatever, 444 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: and then he hitches a ride home, gets in a 445 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: cab with some other friends of ours who were there. 446 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: He jumps out of the cab, won't let the cab 447 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: take him to where he's staying because he doesn't want 448 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: anyone to know, of course, because top because he's on 449 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: the run from the government, and jumps out somewhere near 450 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: Sydney University I think it was, runs out into the night. 451 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: None of us ever saw him again. Meanwhile, me and 452 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: Darren are sitting back out, probably onto our fourth bottle 453 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: of wine, none of which were provided by Julian Assange. 454 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: Let's go, Maddie, you know what are you doing? What 455 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: are you doing? This is crazy. This will never take off. 456 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: Wiki leaks, as if that's ever going to happen. This 457 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: guy's crazy. Can't be right about everything anyway. Juliana Sange 458 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: has an incredible ability to unite the crazy left. And 459 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: the crazy right. And again don't take my word for it, 460 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: but after he finally negotiated his freedom and he's on 461 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: his way back to Australia. This was greeted by people 462 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: right across the world with joy and jubilation, including two 463 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: celebratory tweets. One said this a good man finally free. 464 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: The tide is turning. Another said this Julian Assange will 465 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: finally be free. While great news, this has been over 466 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: a decade of his life wasted by US overreach. Journalism 467 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: is not a crime. Pursuing Assange was anti democratic, anti 468 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: press freedom, and the charges should have been dropped. So 469 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: there you go. Two separate tweets celebrating the release of 470 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: Juliana Sange and saying that finally the tide is turning. 471 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Finally freedom is being fought for once more. And who 472 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: do you think they were from? I'll tell you. The 473 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: first one was from Tucker Carlson, of course, the top 474 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: rating former Fox News host who believes in the great 475 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: replacement theory. And the second was from Adam Band, the 476 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: leader of the Australian Greens. Gosh, it's nice when you 477 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: bring people together. 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