1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panety Show. We 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: have a packed program for you tonight. The best minds 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: in the business, Douglas Murray and Battia Unga Sagon will. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: Be with me shortly. Well, look at the. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Victorian town that claims to have banned former Premier Dan Andrews, Tina. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: McQueen and Priy mcsweeden. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: With the day's top headlines including Jackie Lamby's latest on 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: air meltdown, I'm not gonna believe that. Later in the hour, 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: the popular Australian comic who has declared that all vegans 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: are idiots. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: He'll be here to explain himself. 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: And Left is Losing It features old favorite Dylan Mulvaaney. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's D oneenty ninety six for being 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 4: a girl. It's your three and that's me on a 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: billboard in Times Square. 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: But First Treasurer Jim Chalmers handed down Labour's pre election budget. 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a spenderthon to soften. 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: Voters up ahead of the election. The large es. 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: Includes another round of one hundred and fifty dollars energy bill, 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: rebates and tax cuts of around five dollars per week 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: for the average worker. This is a budget aimed at 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: buying the votes of low information voters. Watch how the 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister, Patrick Gorman promoted the 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: budget on his social media accounts. 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: I'm so excited about the budget. Do you you're excited? 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm getting one hundred and fifty bucks off my 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 5: power bill. 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: You are What else? 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: Are you excited about? 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 6: The Medicare all of the Medicare, the Buyer Australia. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: Stuff and the three day childcare guarantee you have kids? 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, Leo and Ruby. 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 8: Of course because because we both were both about the budget. 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Yes, we're all very excited about years of deficits and 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: being in over what a trillion dollars in debt. Joining 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: me now for more Sky News contributors Tina McQueen and 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: Prue McSween. Tina, the Coalition is opposing this tax change. 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: They're saying seventy cents a day is not going to 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: do much to help the average Australian. 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 8: Look, it's so insignificant. It's really not going to make 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 8: a difference. I mean five dollars a week and then 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 8: ten dollars a week twelve months down the track. I 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 8: don't think this is going to win open election and 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 8: the rebates they've offered, I mean, the energy bills are 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 8: going so high Rita, they're not really helping the average person. 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 8: You're simply going to ask yourself are you better off 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 8: than you were when this government first came in? And 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 8: the answer is fundamentally no. So I hope that Dunton 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 8: comes out with some bold policies that will make a 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 8: difference because the Treasurer's delivery is not going to win 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 8: it for Labor with these policies. 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: But Proue, I do wonder whether the Labor government has 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: set a trap for the Coalition given this teeny tiny 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: tax cut, and if the Coalition don't back it, they'll 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: say they're standing in the way of tax cuts for 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: the average Australian, even though those tax cuts we know 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: amount to seventy cents a day. It's not a great 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: look for the Coalition to be opposing any sort of 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: tax cut. 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 9: Well, they need to be mounting a proper argument. This 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 9: is really a come to Jesus moment for the electorate, 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 9: where people I think are grasping that all of these 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 9: solutions are manipula, political manipulations by government via the government, 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 9: and in fact they're ignoring the elephant. 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: In the room. 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 9: And the elephant in the room is the fact that 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 9: their energy plan has created this whole mess. The cost 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 9: of living can be greatly attributed to it, and the 70 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 9: cost to manufacturing, to industry. 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: To jobs. 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: It's all back to the energy. 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 9: And the point is that unless Dutton and the Libs 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 9: grasp this and don't get sidebarred by all these little 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 9: facile arguments. You know, at the moment, Charmers is paying 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 9: violin politics, is justifying decades of deficits with oh, you know, 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 9: it's social you know justice. What's her saying, we're ignoring 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 9: our responsibility if we don't pay these you know this what. 79 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: Bribery to people. 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 9: So I think that we have to really focus on 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 9: what's going on and energy is the real issue about 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 9: costs of living, and Dutton's got to get real about 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 9: and be brave about saying net zero is a joke 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 9: and we need to put our money into gas and 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 9: you know coal of course and COMMTA. 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 8: I think I think the public will forgive the Coalition 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 8: for opposing these tax cuts if like Prue says, Duntet 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 8: comes out with something bold that makes these tax cuts 89 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 8: looks absolutely ridiculous. So I think that's the key. 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: You have to come up with some alternative plan. You 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: can't just say we're not labor elect us. You have 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: to actually give us something to back and walking away 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: from net zero, walking away from Paris is a game changer. 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: But are they going to be brave enough to even 96 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: go down that road? 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Now? 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: For some early lefties losing it? Content courtesy of Tasmanian 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Senator Jackie Lamby, who gave us this extraordinary performance on 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: morning television. Here she is with Shadow Finance Minister Jane 101 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Hume on the Sunrise program this morning, becoming a tad emotional. 102 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 10: You took a lot of my mates out over that 103 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 10: nine years, and you spent twenty billion dollars of tax 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 10: payers money to consultancy firms. Are we going back to 105 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 10: those days, Jane? Because veterans want to know that this morning. 106 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 10: Are you going back and moving those public service to 107 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 10: are finally finding their seat over such complex medical issues? 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: Are you going to cut the guts? 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 10: Are going to contract. 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: That out again? 111 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: Yes, Jane, None of us near precisely what she was 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: talking about, but there was more, more historyonics more hyperbole. 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: As Jackie Lamby defended Labour's budget. 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 10: Jackie, no, dear, because you don't have a plan of attack, Jane. 115 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 10: All I've heard out of you with this budget is negative, negative, negative, 116 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 10: But you have no answers. What is the coal issue 117 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 10: to the state of Seriously, what is. 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: In your budget paper? 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 10: Apart from you spending three hundred and sixty billion dollars 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 10: on nuclear power plant that is completely going to blow 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 10: out of proportion. So let's be conservative and say that's 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 10: going to cost five hundred billion and that is the 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 10: best plan of attack, the only you come out with. 124 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: Jane Hume, once again, I. 125 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 10: Want to get back to those public servants because I 126 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 10: want to know how many public servants you are going 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 10: to get rid of in Tasmania, Because most of those 128 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 10: public servants, Darling, are not sitting here in Canberra, They're 129 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 10: not sitting there. How many are you taking from Tasmania today? 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: Wowy, yeah, proof, What can you say about that? 131 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 9: Well, she's sounding more more unhinged. Look, no one doubts 132 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 9: her passion and concern about veterans, and many of us 133 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 9: support that but I don't know if she partied a 134 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 9: bit hard after the budget or you know what has happened. 135 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 9: Maybe she's feeling the pressure of you know, politics. But really, 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 9: I mean, she didn't even give the Dutton a chance 137 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 9: to respond. We know, we all think that Dutton should 138 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 9: have been announcing policies earlier. But to go on as 139 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 9: she did, she just sounded really like a mad woman. 140 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: All of us, whatever side of politics you're on, can 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: feel a little bit of sympathy for Jane Hume heres 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: in this clip she looks up to the sky and 143 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: praise for Heaven to help her. 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: Heaven help us, you know what it is, And that's 145 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: really rude. 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 7: Joane. 147 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 10: And those independents, those toils standing are actually really performs 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 10: if they're bon in, so give them a goally one 149 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 10: woman to another that was not polite. Yes they have 150 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 10: so I haven't looked at their you know that you 151 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 10: people don't like them, okay, so you know there's just 152 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 10: no need for that they perform really well, let's be honest. 153 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 10: You just don't want them in there. 154 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: That's really frightening. 155 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 10: There is you know what, there is a place for 156 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 10: every ordinary Australian in this Parliament. 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: Wow, Now she is passionately defending the tills and it's 158 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: frightening if if they're being criticized Tina, I'm having trouble 159 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: figuring out where she's coming from. 160 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: Jackie Lamby, she seems to. 161 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Be a label attack dog these days. 162 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's certainly, she certainly is. I mean to say 163 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 8: the Teals, well, they've done very well in supporting labor, 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 8: that's one aspect that's performed very well in and the 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 8: Green Parliament and the Greeds exactly, So I think we 166 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 8: need to constantly point that out. 167 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: There are so they are so far. 168 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 8: From independent minded politicians at ridiculous. 169 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Look, I feel a bit sorry for Jackie. 170 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: I do think. 171 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 8: Look, she takes her politics very seriously. She's a very 172 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 8: passionate and popular in Tasmania. But I think she has. 173 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: To chill a little. 174 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 8: Look at the voting records and you know, look at 175 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 8: both sides and see he's going to do the best 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 8: for Tasmania in the coming election. 177 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: And I think we have to think about our entire 178 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: democracy sometimes when we see clips like that, what did 179 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: Paul Keating call the Senate unrepresentative swill and Tasmanians, I 180 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: don't know, consider your vote a little bit more carefully 181 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: next time around. Now former Victorian Premier Dan Andrews is 182 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: facing even more bands and boycosts. This time he's been 183 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: banned from a whole town Bunderlong located on the Murraying Country, Victoria. 184 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: He was reportedly booted from the bunderalong Tavern and the 185 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: local tradees of black listed him as well, but a 186 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: spokesman for Dad Andrews has said that the premier never 187 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: even visited the pub, so there's a little bit of 188 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: confusion about what's happened there. This comes after Dan Andrews 189 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: was banned from the trendy South Melbourne pub Mro's, and 190 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: he's also faced a golf club band down on the 191 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: Mornington Peninsula, with members objecting to his potential membership at 192 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: Portsea Golf Club. Tina, are you surprised that Australians have 193 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: not forgiven and forgotten what happened during the COVID era? 194 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: But it seems to be just Dan. 195 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: I'm not hearing these sort of stories about Anastasia Palichet 196 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: or Mark McGowan. 197 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: It still just be Dan Andrews is copying it well. 198 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 8: Dan went the extra mile of Victoria must admit, But 199 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 8: what confuses me why didn't they do this when he 200 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 8: was in government. Why didn't they push back, ban him, 201 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 8: vote him out. I mean, it's all very good to 202 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 8: do after the fact, where there are no consequences for him. 203 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 8: He still gets his pension, he still gets everything entitled 204 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 8: to him. They should have done this when he was 205 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 8: in power and really sent a strong message that these 206 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 8: actions should never happen again. 207 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think those actions were sadly hugely popular at 208 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: the time. 209 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: As they were around the country. 210 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: There was a few of us speaking out, but we 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: were certainly sadly in the minority back then. 212 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: But it's good to. 213 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: Be on the right side of history because I think 214 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: that all those positions have been vindicated. Primcsween Tina McQueen, 215 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: it's always always a pleasure. 216 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: Thanks for your time tonight. 217 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: Joining me now is a best selling author. Douglas Murray's 218 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: latest book on democracies and death Cults, Israel and the 219 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: Future of Civilization will be released in April. You don't 220 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: want to miss that, Douglas. Let's start with the state 221 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: of the Democrats in the US. While much of the 222 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: media is preoccupied with twenty four to seven anti Trump hysteria. 223 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: The polling is showing Trump voters are pretty happy at 224 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: the moment, but the Democrats are in peril. Their approval 225 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: ratings are at record lows twenty seven percent. It's a 226 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: grim state of affairs with Democrats facing historic discontent with 227 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: their base, and as you can see in the graph, 228 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: the net approval figure for the Republicans and Democrats paints 229 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: and undeniable picture of a party in crisis. 230 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: Douglas, is this just a case of. 231 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: Bitter ideologues reacting to a big election loss and having 232 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: a bit of a tantrum or? Is there a deeper 233 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: issue here because we are seeing the most radical voices 234 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: now seemingly taking over the party. 235 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. 236 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: I mean it's inevitable, isn't it that after an election 237 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: wipeout like the one that the Democrats suffered last November? 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 5: It's inevitable that there is going to be a period 239 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 5: of reflection, if not silence from them as they try 240 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: to work out what to do. That's the case with 241 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 5: any party that suffered such a blistering defeat. The interesting 242 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: thing with the Democrats, you say that they seem to 243 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 5: be leaderless, that's really because they are. I mean, it 244 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 5: can't be stressed in the American system. I mean there 245 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 5: is you know, Kamala Harris and what's his name, Oh yeah, Waltz. 246 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 5: We you know what happened, and they drifted away after 247 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: the election something that they got, and it's not like 248 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: any of the Democratic Party wants to hear very much 249 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 5: from either of them after having led them to that defeat. 250 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: And then the rest of the party. You've got a 251 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 5: minority leader Santa Schumer, who has been castigated by his 252 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: party for making a budget deal with the Republicans. Nancy Pelosi, 253 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: the stripling of eighty four has criticized Chuck Schumer, and 254 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer has in fact canceled the book or he 255 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 5: was going to go on in becoming days because of 256 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: threats to him, not from Republicans but from fellow Democrats. 257 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 5: And so that's sort of the top of the party. 258 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 5: You go to the layers underneath that, and unfortunately, you see, 259 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 5: unfortunately for the Democrats, you see just this case after 260 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 5: case of somebody whose career is in cinders. Governor Gavin 261 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: Newsom is trying podcasting, and that's because much of the 262 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: district he was meant to keep an eye on burnt 263 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: to the ground a few months ago, and he didn't 264 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 5: do very much to stop that, and so it's hard 265 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: to see how a little bit of podcasting could make 266 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: up for that. And it's the same all the way 267 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: down the party. There are people like Don Lemon, the 268 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 5: former CNN anko I mentioned in the New York Post, 269 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: who claimed that the future of the party is the 270 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: radical left wing of the party. But in fact, the 271 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: only future of a party that those people are the 272 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 5: future of is they are a future for the Republican Party, 273 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: because if the Democratic Party decided to take in the 274 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 5: worst excesses of the Squad and others, then it's hard 275 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: to see how the Republicans don't just continue winning for 276 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: the foreseeable future. 277 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Well, I did very much enjoy that peace in the 278 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: New York Post, very droll, indeed. But it does beg 279 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: the question who is the next leader? You mentioned Gavin Newsom, 280 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: he's trying to position himself as somewhat of a moderate centrist, 281 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: a point of difference from the aocs and Bernie Sanders. 282 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: What about Tim Walls? Apparently he has presidential ambitions. 283 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 5: Well, where to even start with Tim Walls? He has 284 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: cropped back up in recent days, first of all to 285 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 5: boast about his masculinity and to talk about what a 286 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: threat he believes that he, the man known as Tampon 287 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 5: Tin Tampon Tin, how much of a threat he was 288 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: to the Republicans because of his masculinity. Odd sort of 289 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: thing to be boasting about and roaring about, but there 290 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 5: it is. That's Tim Woltz. And then he cropped back 291 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: up in front of some sycophants on stage and talked 292 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: about how he gets happy each day by he downloaded 293 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: the share app that apparently you can have to monitor 294 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 5: your shares. That's real man of the people's stuff right there. 295 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 5: And Tim Waltster says he's added the Tesla shares to 296 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: that and was celebrating Tesla's shares going down. Tim Waltz 297 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: should look at where his shares politically are right now, 298 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: and he'd see that they're close to bankruptcy. It's a 299 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: really pathetic spectacle to see him doing that. The thing 300 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: that they most need to do of Democrats is they 301 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: need to actually come up with some policies and some 302 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: ideas that differentiate them from the Republicans. They spent years 303 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 5: doing Republicans of Fascists it's the end of the republic. 304 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 5: Democracy dies in darkness. If you vote in Trump, he's 305 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: Hitler and it's all over. And it didn't work. It 306 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: was clearly a total political play, but it also just 307 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 5: didn't work. It turned out that the voters didn't believe them, 308 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 5: and rightly so. But what do you do in the 309 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 5: aftermath of that. They seem to be trying a little 310 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: bit of stuff out, but they're going to have to 311 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 5: put an awful lot more meat on the bone if 312 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 5: they're going to look like a really reasonable, respectable party 313 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 5: of opposition. And all parties need opposition, all governments need opposition. 314 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: But apart from a bit of hollering about taxing the rich, 315 00:17:54,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: there's very little there that the Democrats have to say. 316 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: That there are signs of the left love of violence 317 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: apparent again. It's really never been far away with sword, 318 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: with the BLM riots, the violent anti Israel protests on 319 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: university campuses, and the latest project seems to be attacking 320 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: Tesla cars, Tesla dealerships. Due to their hatred of Elon 321 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 2: Musk and Douglas. I've got to say those who should 322 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: know better continue to rationalize what some are calling domestic terrorism. 323 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 11: Someone throw a molotov cocktail at a Tesla service center. 324 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 11: At least five Teslas blew up. When you pull out 325 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 11: a chainsaw to celebrate firing, thousands of people forget mad. Interesting, 326 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 11: you know, Let's send these techno fascist rouler garchs and 327 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 11: old fashioned Nazis a message loud and clear. 328 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 12: The vandalism really shows the outright anger and reads that 329 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 12: people are feeling about what Elon Musk is doing. 330 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: Douglas, they almost hate Elon Musk more than they hate 331 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: Donald Trump these days. This derangement because it's not just 332 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: a disagreement and they want to see him destroyed. 333 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: They do. 334 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: It's it's a rather strange turn for people from a 335 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 5: political wing that talks about how much they love the 336 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: environment so much and how they want to take the 337 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: environment to be setting light to anything and burning it 338 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 5: down and setting light two cars run on renewable energy. 339 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 5: That's that's that's a really great way to say, I 340 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: heart the environment, isn't it? But yes, I mean this, 341 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: any political side can do this. But it's extremely dangerous stuff. 342 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: When you start to say. 343 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: Like that, well, you know, if you. 344 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: If you cut federal spending, you know, you can't expect 345 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 5: people not to buy a bomb things. I mean, I mean, really, 346 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 5: we're going, why why this desire to legitimize totally pointless 347 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 5: destructiveolitical violence. I can only assume that some of these 348 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 5: people are people who are very bored as well as 349 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 5: very unpleasant. Indeed, they want a great cause. They spent years, 350 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 5: as I said earlier, saying that Donald Trump was hitler. 351 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: Now they've decided, in fact, Elion Musk is hitler, which 352 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 5: means you've got to burn the cars or something, or 353 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: flip the finger to people driving a certain type of car. Again, 354 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: nothing shows moderation and be kind better than just swearing 355 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: at your neighbors because they've got a car whose company 356 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 5: is founded by a man whose political views you disagree with. 357 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 5: I mean, it's astonishing, but again, this is deadly. This 358 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: is crypped tonight for the Democrat Party and for people 359 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: like that guy who you show at the beginning of 360 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 5: that clip. He's meant to be, by the way, a 361 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 5: late night comedian. I don't know about you, but I mean, 362 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: nothing he said or says is remotely funny. He's just 363 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: one of these weird new clerics for Pere on American 364 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 5: television who were hired as comedians and then come out 365 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: and give a boring lecture and excuse violence and think 366 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 5: that that will get them the big laughs and we'll see, 367 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 5: and that's one of the reasons why people are turning 368 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 5: off those programs. But it's quite sickening to see that, 369 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 5: because if the Republicans did that and said, wow, you 370 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: can only push people so far before they start executing you, 371 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 5: I think we'd all think that was a bit run 372 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 5: I think we would. 373 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 2: I think that we would all right on January sixth, 374 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: and they were bleeding about it for five years. 375 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: So if. 376 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: The violence from their side, they seem to rationalize very easily. 377 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: And you're right about those late night comics. There's a 378 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: reason why their ratings are in the toilet is because 379 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: there's very few laughs. There's just lectures, and Greg Guttfeld 380 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: is the big beneficiary there. 381 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 13: Now. 382 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: Talking about celebrities, we've seen a number of them threatened 383 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: to leave the US if. 384 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: Trump won, and one of them, I've got to give 385 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 2: her credit she followed through with it. Rosio O'Donnell is 386 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: now an resident of Ireland and she started spreading election 387 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: denial there. 388 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 12: I question why the first time in American history a 389 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 12: president has won every swing state and is also best 390 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 12: friends and his largest donor was a man who owns 391 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 12: and runs the Internet, So I would hope that that 392 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 12: would be investigated. Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums with 393 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 12: people who supported her, and Donald Trump was not able 394 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 12: to do that. 395 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: There you go, Douglas. 396 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: Elon apparently owns and runs the internet now and Kamala 397 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: was hugely popular, So we need an investigation. 398 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. 399 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 5: And one of the ways you can tell that Elon 400 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 5: Musk runs all of the Internet is that there are 401 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: never any negative pieces or a negative comment about Elon 402 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: Musk on the Internet. As ever, Rosio o'donald is as 403 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 5: sharp tacked as she ever was. I remember this is 404 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: another comedian. By the way, remember Rosi o' donald. She's hilarious, 405 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: isn't she. I mean you can just feel your face 406 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: cracking up with the humor whenever Rosie appears, and a 407 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: pines on the world. As for Donald Trump not filling 408 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 5: up stadiums, I mean, that's just bizarre, because of course, 409 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: I mean I've been to Trump rallies. He very much 410 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 5: fills up stadiums, very much, filled up Madison Square Garden 411 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 5: in New York and countless other places across the country. 412 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 5: Here's one of the problems, of course, for the Democrats. Again, 413 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: they can be pulled leftward by these now self exiled 414 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: comedians like Rosio o'donald, who, by the way, probably is 415 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: having a kind of breakdown because Donald Trump was very 416 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 5: largely elected in twenty sixteen, very largely won the Republican 417 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: nomination to run for president because of his line about 418 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: Rosy o'donald, which just got huge laughs and was hugely 419 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 5: appreciated by people across the country. But Rosy o'donald and co. 420 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: If they're going to do this stuff, what it really 421 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: is is a demonstration of denial. What the Democrats and 422 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: others should face up to is that Donald Trump was 423 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 5: and is extremely popular. He won the popular vote because 424 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 5: he's popular. He filled up stadiums because he's popular. Sure, 425 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris could fill the Odd Hall. No one is 426 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: disputing that. But if you've just lost an election to somebody, 427 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: you don't pretend, or you shouldn't pretend that that person 428 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 5: has no popularity behind him. What you should do is 429 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: work out why he's got it. See what you can 430 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 5: do to adapt to the world that you're in, and 431 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 5: see what you can learn, see if there are policies 432 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: that you might learn from, instead of claiming that he's 433 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 5: faked his way to it, actually adapt and learn. And 434 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 5: so yes, I'm not sure, Rosian. No one is going 435 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 5: to be able to teach the Democrats very much from 436 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 5: her escape in Ireland. And by the way, the way 437 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 5: that Ireland's going at the moment, it's perfectly possible at 438 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 5: Rosier Donald will have to move back to the States 439 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 5: at some point soon. But that's another story. 440 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: Well, she is in a very inchulent little echo chamber 441 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: because in that interview it appeared that she doesn't actually 442 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 2: know any Trump voters. So even though more than half 443 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: the country half of voters voted for Trump, she doesn't 444 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: seem to know a single one. So that's rosy for you. 445 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: Before you go, just quickly. You wrote a superb piece 446 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: for The Spectator about the latest attacks against Western civilization. 447 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: And here we've got Britain's being expected to be ashamed 448 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: of their history, ashamed of things that should be enormously 449 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: proud of, like Shakespeare. Even Shakespeare's birthplace is supposed to 450 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: be we should be decolonized, Douglas, because it could be 451 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: used to promote white supremacy. 452 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 5: Yes, this is the latest report by a dim wit, 453 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 5: second rate academic at a third rate university who weirdly 454 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: cooperating with the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust. And you would have 455 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: thought the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust would like to celebrate Shakespeare's birthplace, 456 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 5: but oh no, no, no, no, not in this era. 457 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 5: So this second rate academic cooperated with the Shakespeare Birthplace 458 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: Trust and she has come to conclusion that Shakespeare's racist 459 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 5: and colonialist, or maybe even caused the colonial era himself unclear. 460 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 5: And also the Stratford upon Avon is a notorious meeting 461 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 5: place of white supremacists. And it's always struck me Rito 462 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 5: as I'm sure it has you that whatever remaining skinheads 463 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 5: there might be, they're forever gathering at places of poetry 464 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 5: like Stratford upon Avon and reading Sonnets. It's one of 465 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: the things I think you can it's one of the 466 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 5: ways you spot them, those guys. It's so preposterous. And 467 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 5: by the way, the important thing about this is that, 468 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 5: as I said in that piece and Spectator, it points 469 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 5: to this central issue that we are being told in 470 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 5: our countries, in America, in Britain, in Australia, in all 471 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: the western countries, we are being told all the time 472 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: to be ashamed of our inheritance. And there's no reason 473 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: to be ashamed of our inheritance. But what's weird about 474 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: it is that we are being told it all the time, 475 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 5: and it's always a one way street, this business with 476 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 5: Shakespeare's birthplace. They've decided that one of the things is 477 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 5: there's too much Shakespeare at Shakespeare's birthplace, and they've decided, 478 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: among other things, to introduce more of a celebrated Bengali 479 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 5: poet called Tagre. Now, if I went to de Gory's 480 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: birthplace in Bengal and said, guys, you need more Shakespeare here, 481 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: it's really not on that you haven't got another poet 482 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 5: that you're celebrating at the birthplace of this poet, I 483 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: think people would think it was rather audacious. 484 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Well guess what. 485 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 5: We in England, We in Britain also think it's rather audacious. 486 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 5: It's rude and to use a term, it's rather colonizing. 487 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: Indeed, Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight. 488 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 5: Pleasure as always. 489 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: Still to come. 490 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: Lefties Losing It plus the latest from the us, including 491 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: George Clooney, labeled a liar and coward for his part 492 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: in hiding Joe Biden's cognitive decline. 493 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: But here unga sagone is. 494 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: Up next. 495 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 496 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: It's time for lefties losing it and another Hollywood actress 497 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: has decided to show us how daft and out of 498 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: touch she is. Here is Star of Grays and to me, 499 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: Ellen Pompeio just being comically clueless. 500 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: I don't know it all. At the same time, it's 501 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: not a good combo. 502 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 13: I think we all need a lot more empathy right now, 503 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 13: and so I hope we take that away. I mean, 504 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 13: why are old white men the only ones who are 505 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 13: allowed to be felons? Good? 506 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: No one else can. 507 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 7: Stay in this country if they're a felon. 508 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: But somehow if you're and he's not even that word. 509 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: Just a profound point. How proud was she of what 510 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 3: you just said? Really? 511 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: But you can't expect someone who is this demon out 512 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: of touch to understand why Americans want illegal immigrants, particularly gangbangers, 513 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: out of the country. 514 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 14: Watch this, Your twenty million dollar salary was publicly shared 515 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 14: to the world. 516 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: How did you feel when that came out? 517 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 7: Well, my manager at the time said something to me 518 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 7: that literally hit me like a brick. He said, or 519 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 7: how are you ready to be unpopular? I was like, 520 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 7: what do you what do you mean? And he was like, well, 521 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 7: I just don't want you to think that everyone's going 522 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 7: to go in and cheer for you and clap for 523 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 7: you and bow to you and think you're the dopest 524 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 7: thing ever, because there's going to be a lot of 525 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 7: people who are not happy for you. And that had 526 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 7: never occurred to me. 527 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: What it had never occurred to her that people might 528 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: be critical, maybe unhappy that some second right actress is 529 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: earning twenty million dollars. Let's check in now with some 530 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: leftist protesters. So are asked about the job status. Q 531 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: much hysterics and victim playing. 532 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 12: I got to ask you, it's the middle of the 533 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 12: day on Wednesday. 534 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a job? 535 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: I do? 536 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: I do Wednesdays. 537 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 15: I have some flexibility and you know during the day, 538 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 15: I'm able to. 539 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Go do stuff. 540 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: I gotta get stuff, I gotta get Do we leave 541 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: our job tomorrow? 542 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 16: What is not more precious than husband children? That no salary, 543 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 16: no slave wage, is enough to stop me from actually 544 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 16: raising my point. 545 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: Now, let's have some watching Dylan Mulvainy run in heels. 546 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: Here he is mocking womanhood again. He's notched up more 547 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: than a thousand days of mocking womanhood. 548 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: And he now has a billboard in Times Square. 549 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's d one thy ninety six being 550 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: a girl. It's your three And that's me on a 551 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: billboard in Times Square at the three Bees, a book, 552 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: a bath bomb, and a billboard. Oh wow, Now I 553 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 4: think we should hand out some paper doll books some 554 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: of these people out in Times Square. 555 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Let's go. 556 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Now, don't go accusing the Democrats of being in a cult. 557 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: Not like they'd be mindless. 558 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: Sheep, regurgitating the same phrase over and over again. The 559 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: latest talking point is all about this moment. 560 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: The strength that we have is in this moment. 561 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 8: Listen to your constituents, center them in this moment. 562 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: But I can tell you that there are a lot 563 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: of people that are watching his leadership in this moment. 564 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: This is the moment. 565 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: No I think about what's happening, you know in this moment. 566 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: What's important is that we meet this moment. 567 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: So are these current Democrats the ones to meet the moment? 568 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: What do you want to see us doing? 569 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 17: Right? 570 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 15: Now, in this moment, and which Democrats are actually going 571 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 15: to stand up against Elon Musk and Donald Trump in 572 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 15: this moment. 573 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: You know, in this moment, the Democrats' arguments against deportations, 574 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: against stopping illegal immigration amount to just one thing, their 575 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: love of cheap foreign labor. 576 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: This blue haired Texan is part of the problem. 577 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 18: Who's going to build the Texas detention camps? 578 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 5: Who's going to build them? 579 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll wait. 580 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: And to another pitifully cheap and nasty attack from new 581 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: Democrat favorite Jasmine Crockett. Here, the privately educated congresswoman walks 582 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 2: Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who is disabled and in a wheelchair, 583 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: calling him governor hot whales. 584 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: As we in these hot ass Texas streets. Honey, y'all 585 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: know we got governor high. 586 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 14: Wheels down there, Come on now, and the only thing 587 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 14: hot about him is that he is a hot. 588 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: Ass mess honey. 589 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: So so yes, yes, yes, yes, Oh classy work there 590 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: from the Democrat congressman. Let's bring in journalists and author 591 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: Batia Unga Sagon. 592 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what can you say about that? How 593 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: low can they go? 594 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 14: It's just so utterly appalling, And I honestly had to 595 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 14: listen to the clip a few times because the idea 596 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 14: that a member of Congress would be mocking the disability 597 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 14: of a man who had a horrific accident at twenty 598 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 14: six and then spent the rest of his life in 599 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 14: public service to this nation and never let his stability 600 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 14: hold him back from serving the people who he loves. 601 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 14: It's so shocking to me. And the fact that that 602 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 14: audience laughed. I don't know if your audience could hear that, Rita, 603 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 14: but the audience at this human rights campaign event just 604 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 14: burst out laughing at this mockery of a disabled person. 605 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 14: You have to see it to believe it. And I 606 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 14: think it really reveals that the Democrats truly check their 607 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 14: morals at the door when it comes to anybody who 608 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 14: disagrees with them politically, they owe them not even the 609 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 14: most basic common decency. Truly a sad low moment. 610 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: Now sixty Minutes did a fluff face on George Cloudy 611 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: and they asked about the role they act A played 612 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: in pressuring Joe Biden to step down. He gave a 613 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: rather self delighted, self serving answer. 614 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Happy, you did it. 615 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 19: Yeah, I'll make it kind of easy. I was raised 616 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 19: to tell the truth. I had seen the President up 617 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 19: close for this fundraiser, and I was surprised, And so 618 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 19: I feel as if there was a lot of profiles 619 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 19: in cowardice in my party through all of that, and 620 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 19: I was not proud of that, and I also believed 621 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 19: I had to tell the truth. 622 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: But George Clooney, you must think we're all suffering from 623 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: Biden's cognitive decline. But yeah, because I remember, and I'm 624 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 2: sure you do the timeline. 625 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 3: So far from bravely cooling out. 626 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 2: The obvious, George Clooney in fact did a massive, star 627 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: stunded fundraiser for Joe Biden. You'll remember that it featured, 628 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: among others, Jack Black. 629 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 15: A few days ago, my manager called me and said, 630 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 15: George Clooney and Julia Roberts wanted me to help the 631 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 15: president and speak here tonight, And I said, I am 632 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 15: in When and where? 633 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: That was the event where President Biden frozen had to 634 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: be assisted off the stage by Barack Obama, and then 635 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: the White House lied to all of us saying that 636 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: the videos of this were all right wing disinformation that 637 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be believing our lying eyes. That happened then 638 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: around two weeks later was the infamous Biden debate disaster, 639 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: where he just gave the most incoherent performance yet. And 640 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: it was some two weeks after that, when Biden was 641 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 2: steadfastly refusing to step down that we got that George 642 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: Clooney op ed so this suggestion that he saw Joe 643 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: Biden up close and decided I've. 644 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: Got to be a brave warrior here and take a stand. 645 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: Come on, who is he kidding? 646 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 14: It's so funny, Red, because you're exactly right about the timeline. 647 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 14: What we just saw was George Clooney acting, lying, pretending 648 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 14: that he is some sort of, you know, this beacon 649 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 14: of moral courage, when he is the opposite. He is 650 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 14: the biggest coward because, as you point out, he saw 651 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 14: the decline, but when he had privileged information that he 652 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 14: was granted due to the fact that he's a gazillionaire 653 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 14: celebrity who has access to the Obamas and to Biden. 654 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 14: When he had access to that information about Biden's decline 655 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 14: that we the American people didn't have because we're not gazillionaires, 656 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 14: he kept it to himself and he was willing to 657 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 14: keep that money rolling and to get that person who 658 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 14: he thought was senile into the oval office. Again, so 659 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 14: long as none of the American people knew that the 660 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 14: president was senile. It's so horrifying. And he only spoke 661 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 14: up when the American people had a front row seat 662 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 14: to the problem themselves at that debate, and his corruption 663 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 14: clooney and Obama's corruption at hiding the sinility of the 664 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 14: president was revealed to everybody. That's when he wrote the 665 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 14: op ed, which, by the way, many people think Obama 666 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 14: pushed him to write because Obama was too much of 667 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 14: a coward to put his name on it. So these 668 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 14: people are the biggest cowards. They are millionaires who have 669 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 14: access to power in an unbelievable way, wealth and power, 670 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 14: and they were gatekeeping information that the American people desperately 671 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 14: needed so long as they thought they could get away 672 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 14: with putting a puppet president back in the Oval office. Truly, 673 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 14: cowardice and corruption rolled into. 674 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: One absolutely, And you know what, he probably would have 675 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 2: had plenty of access before that star started fundraiser where 676 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: it was obvious to everyone that Biden was in no 677 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: shape to be president. 678 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: And they all kept starting. Not only did they say nothing. 679 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: But they attacked those of us who pointed out the 680 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: obvious that there was obviously something wrong with the president. 681 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: We were accused of disinformation and right wing conspiracies and 682 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: altering videos when it was all there. Now you've done 683 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: incredible work. You've written extensively about the political realignments that 684 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: we've seen in the US. You understand them better than most, 685 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: and that has included an exodus from big blue states 686 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: like California and New York to the big red states 687 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 2: like Texas and Florida. And finally, now Democrats like Bill 688 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: Maher are understanding what those trends mean and they're worried 689 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: about it. 690 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 17: California is projected to lose three seats, New York two 691 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 17: also going to lose a seat. Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island, 692 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 17: Illinois or blue states. Who's getting these Texas, Florida, Adaho, 693 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 17: and Utah. I mean, this looks like game over. 694 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: That's fascinating implications for that. How do you say those 695 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 2: trends impacting America's political future. 696 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 14: It's funny because when you talk to Republicans who live 697 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 14: in those states, they're like, don't come, don't bring your 698 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 14: stupid liberal ideas here. 699 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: So they're a little bit worried about it. 700 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 14: I think, but I think this reflects a larger trend 701 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 14: in America, which is every single state in the last 702 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 14: election moved to the right, even liberal states. So you 703 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 14: have people moving out of liberal states to conservative states, 704 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 14: literally moving to the right, and then you have just 705 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 14: that movement within those states. And in addition to the 706 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 14: sort of political realignment we've seen along class lines to 707 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 14: where the Democrats are now the party of the rich 708 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 14: and the Republicans are the party of the working class. 709 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 14: You've seen a realignment of like the cool factor. So 710 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 14: it used to be the Democrats were the party of 711 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 14: young people, of cool, of hip of everything that was 712 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 14: sort of cutting in, and the Republicans with the sort 713 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 14: of old fuddy dudies, you know, and now it's the 714 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 14: exact opposite. Young people overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump, especially 715 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 14: young men, and the GOP feels edgy, it feels cutting edge, 716 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 14: and it feels like the party where cool things are 717 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 14: happening and where young people want to be identified. And meanwhile, 718 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 14: the Democratic Party is the party of kind of cringe 719 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 14: and old people and wealth and the establishment and this 720 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 14: kind of staid attachment to failing ideas and failing cities. So, 721 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 14: you know, the cultural realignment I think is just as 722 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 14: significant as the political and the class realignment. 723 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. 724 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean the Democrats have just become the party of victimhood, 725 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: of miserable women and wakemen, and it's like you're O, 726 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 2: it's not a cool group to be a part of. 727 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: Who would have thought twenty thirty years ago that it 728 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: would be the right side of politics that would be 729 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: championing free speech and free expression. 730 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 3: No one saw that coming. And an end to wars 731 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 3: when you've got. 732 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: The Democrats wanting to fund these forever wars. 733 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's always a pleasure. Thank you so much 734 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: for your time tonight. 735 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 14: Thank you so much, Prida, God bless you. 736 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: Always. 737 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 14: Wonderful being here with you and your audience. 738 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 3: Still to come. 739 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: The popular Australian comic has declared all vegans are idiots. 740 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: Is here to explain himself. Welcome back now. 741 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 2: My next guest has declared that all vegans are idiots. 742 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: His comic and author Isaac Butterfield, currently performing at the 743 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: Comics Lounge in Melbourne for the next few nights before 744 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: heading to Queensland. He'll be in Queensland and New South 745 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: Wales in maye June. Get your tickets early. Here's popular Isaac. 746 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. Let's start with. 747 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 3: Your deep disdain for vegans. 748 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 2: I don't understand this. I mean, what have they ever 749 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: done to you? They're just they're malnourished. To begin with, 750 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: you should have some sympathy. 751 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 6: Well, they are the worst people on earth. Read I 752 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 6: don't know if you know that. It's it's well documented. 753 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: But I tell you what. I see these people around. 754 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 6: I see them on trams and public transport, particularly here 755 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 6: in Melbourne. 756 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: It's just you can really you. 757 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 3: Have a disproportionate number in Melbourne, don't we. 758 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 6: There is a lot of them, and they are They're 759 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 6: bad people. 760 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: They're bad people. 761 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: Why do you say that, because, let me play Devil's advocate, 762 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: they'll say, we're making a sacrifice for the good of others, 763 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 2: for the good of the planet, perhaps for the good 764 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: of animals. So why you say they're the worst people, Well. 765 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 6: They're very hypocritical. In fact, if you just look at 766 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 6: things like crop deaths. When you come to crop deaths, 767 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, because of you, they only 768 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 6: eat veggies. They are responsible for far more animal souls 769 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 6: drifting into the afterlife than it's happened to be Now 770 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 6: you can say that, hey, a lot of those crop 771 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 6: deaths are related to the feed for animals that we 772 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 6: may eat. But in reality, I don't really have too 773 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 6: much of a worry about mice and things like that 774 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 6: when they happen to So I think. 775 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: These guys are just they're just. 776 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 6: Vitamin B twelve has a lot to do with the 777 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 6: brain and how the brain develops and how the brain operates, 778 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 6: and these guys just happen to be lacking in all 779 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 6: of those fields. 780 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 1: And it's quite sad. 781 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: You know, you can get B twelve supplements. You just 782 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 2: get the injections over the counter at the chemist. 783 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 3: I do that. 784 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 2: So I'm not giving health advice here, but perhaps that 785 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: would help. 786 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: It sounds like you are. 787 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 6: It sounds like you're arguing with me, and I don't 788 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 6: appreciate that. 789 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: Rder. I think we need to go harder at the vegans, 790 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: and I think we should. 791 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 3: How can you sport them? 792 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 11: Say? 793 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: You see them around, but they're not advertising their veganism, 794 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: are they? 795 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 3: How can you tell? 796 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 6: Usually they look at me with utter disdain and hatred 797 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 6: and vitriol. 798 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: Because you're a white male. 799 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 6: Because the four thousand videos I've made about them on 800 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 6: the internet something I am the vegan enemy number one. 801 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: Don't worry about. 802 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 3: That, well, you were. 803 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 2: Your following is astonishing. I'm just going to tell the 804 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: audience a little bit about how many followers subscribers you have. 805 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: You are very one of the very first comics in 806 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: Australia to really tap into this big demand for content 807 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 2: that is unapologetically male masculine, that speaks to young men 808 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 2: in particular, and your following shows that you've got more 809 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: than two point two million subscribers on YouTube alone, And 810 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: to give the audience a comparison, that's more than Channel 811 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: nine has. It's more than Channel ten, channel seven. You've 812 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: got some ways to go to catch Sky News Australia. 813 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 3: I've got more than five million. 814 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,959 Speaker 1: But see you guys going off every week. 815 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 2: But why do you think there is such a great 816 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: demand for the content that you create? 817 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: Well, I just. 818 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 6: Think that a lot of young dudes, dudes who are 819 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 6: getting into their twenties even and even older guys, they 820 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 6: just have a certain way of their humor is a 821 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 6: little bit different to what perhaps a lot of people 822 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 6: in the wider community are fed, and particularly with the 823 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 6: mainstream way that's distributed, whether it be TV. 824 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: Or right now the Melbourne Comedy Festival. 825 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 6: I see a lot of comedians around that I've seen 826 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 6: live and I don't particularly enjoy their here. And that's 827 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 6: not to say they're not great and wonderful for some people, 828 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 6: but for me, who and I enjoy really hard hitting, 829 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 6: a horrible humor if you will, that's just not going 830 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 6: to crack it. And I think that's where people like 831 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 6: me come in. 832 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 833 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you just get onto the content that the other 834 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 2: comics I think want to do, but they're just too 835 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: afraid of being canceled, coppying, some sort. 836 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 3: Of a backlash. And I'm just going to play you 837 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 3: a little clip. 838 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 2: It's political for a second, because Labour's also keen to 839 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 2: tap into that social media market that youngsters consume. They're 840 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: putting out all these videos leading up to the election. 841 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 2: One of the most prolific is the Housing Minister Claire Neil. 842 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: Let's look at this video about avocado toast and housing. 843 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 18: Despite all the conservative media says, this is not the 844 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 18: reason that you can't afford a house in Australia. This 845 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 18: is the reason for more than a generation, Australian governments 846 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 18: have sat back and done very little about a housing 847 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 18: crisis that was building and building. Well, that'll change when 848 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 18: the Albanezy government was elected in twenty twenty two. We're 849 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 18: trying to build one point two million homes. 850 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: First of all, I don't know why I was included 851 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 2: in that little graphic she popped up, because I've never 852 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 2: said anything about avocados and housing. So Claire, get your 853 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 2: stuff together. But I'm critical of these ads. I think 854 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 2: they're cringe lame. They don't do anything. But you're actually 855 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: in that demographic that she's trying to reach. 856 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 3: Is that effective? Is labor doing social media? 857 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 6: Well, well, there's a lot of young people that may 858 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 6: never own a home and that's a real shame for them. 859 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 6: It's quite a before stand up and before the Internet 860 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 6: came along and I became a big and a celebrity 861 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 6: and an amazing human being, the prospect of me owning 862 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 6: a home was very slim and I was lucky enough 863 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 6: to get to that point where I was able to 864 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 6: do that several in fact, and. 865 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm a much better person. 866 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 6: But it is, it is really scary for a lot 867 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 6: of young people out there, and I think with the 868 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 6: election coming out, this is going to be a massive issue. 869 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 6: At play for younger people, and I do worry that 870 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 6: they look at both parties and they go, who's going 871 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 6: to help us? Where are we going to get this 872 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 6: outrageous cash from that we seem to need to be 873 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 6: able to buy a home. 874 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: So it's tough out there for young folks. 875 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 6: But I mean, even when it comes to things like 876 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 6: the avocado toast, breakfasts are. 877 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: Going up, all right, and that's it's rough out there. 878 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm luddy, I'm a young thirty bucks. 879 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: You are kids meals? It's outrageous. 880 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 6: Can you believe what they charge for kids meals? 881 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 1: R It just goes on the floor. 882 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 3: Back in my day, kids eight for free. That's the 883 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 3: way it should be. 884 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 2: Beautiful, Isaac waterfeel thank you so much for your time. 885 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 3: And that's all the time we have. I'll see you 886 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: at eleven tomorrow. Up next is news. 887 00:48:59,920 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 16: I