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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, March nine, twenty twenty five. We're looking at

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Speaker 1: a federal election in May. That means we'll be having

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Speaker 1: a budget on March twenty five and it'll be the

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Speaker 1: government's attempt to pitch the economy as a success story.

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Speaker 1: Lower unemployment and falling inflation will be the Albanzy government's

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Speaker 1: pitch to voters, and its hopes were bolstered on the

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Speaker 1: weekend by an emphatic West Australian state election win by

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Speaker 1: Labor Premier Roger Cook. It wasn't the catastrophe experts were predicting,

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Speaker 1: but ex tropical Cyclone Alfred is still making his presence

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Speaker 1: felt in southern Queensland and northern New South Wales with

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Speaker 1: widespread flooding. For the latest on that fast moving situation,

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Speaker 1: check out our live coverage at Beaustralian dot com. Dou

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Speaker 1: did we all misunderstand? Megan Markel is the Royal Family's

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Speaker 1: wide life, reviled exile actually a sweet and genuine homemaker.

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Speaker 1: The critics have shredded her TV show, but Netflix has

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Speaker 1: renewed it for a second season. So what's going on?

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Speaker 1: I speak to someone who's been covering the Duchess of

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Speaker 1: Sussex close up for close on a decade to find

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Speaker 1: out what's true and what's a very pretty reality TV confection.

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Speaker 2: After this, Once you have access or a voice that

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Speaker 2: people are willing to listen to, with that comes a

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Speaker 2: lot of responsibility which I take seriously. And this and

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Speaker 2: so as we can see what's happening in the online space,

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Speaker 2: we know that there's a lot of work to be

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Speaker 2: done there and we're just happy to be able to

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Speaker 2: be a part of Well, you've changed for good.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought we'd end up here?

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Speaker 3: We could do a little dollup of yogurt as our cloud's.

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Speaker 2: Flower sprinkles if we must, a cooking show and the

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Speaker 2: Pursuit of joy Lovers and the details.

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Speaker 4: I think it took thirty seconds of watching it and

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Speaker 4: I just thought, oh no, I had high expectations.

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Speaker 1: Jacqueline magnet Is The Australian's europe correspondent.

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Speaker 4: I thought that with the money that Netflix is throwing

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Speaker 4: at it, with the expertise that they have behind the scenes,

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Speaker 4: with the director, the lighting, the technical aspects of it

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Speaker 4: looked beautiful. And obviously was very well done with a

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Speaker 4: lot of people, a very big professional outfit behind it all.

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Speaker 4: But then she just doesn't have the charm. There's no

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Speaker 4: engagement with the audience, and it's more a lovely to Megan.

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Speaker 1: Meghan Markle, sorry Meghan Sussex, as she now wishes to

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Speaker 1: be known. The American actress who was previously famous for

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Speaker 1: playing a super smart lawyer in the TV show Suits,

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Speaker 1: has been giving earnest vibes since twenty seventeen, when she

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Speaker 1: was launched onto the global consciousness as the fiance of

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Speaker 1: Prince Harry.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to just really get to know more about

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Speaker 2: the different communities here, smaller organizations. We're working on the

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Speaker 2: same causes that I've always been passionate about. Under this umbrella,

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Speaker 2: and also being able to go around to the Commonwealth.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just just the beginning of her There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to do. There's a lot to do. In

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Speaker 1: their engagement interview, the pair clutched hands and spoke with

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Speaker 1: shiny eyed optimism about the work making the world a

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Speaker 1: better place. But what they didn't talk about, and what

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Speaker 1: now becomes glaringly obvious, is that Meghan's call wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the Commonwealth. It was in the lifestyle blog she founded

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. It was on a film set, dressed

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Speaker 1: beautifully assembling a cheese platter. I've got to tell you

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Speaker 1: the truth. I'm not a fan of Meghan and I

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Speaker 1: sat down to watch With Love Meghan, her new Netflix show,

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Speaker 1: hoping it would be another iteration of the entitled car Crash.

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Speaker 1: I found their previous outing on Netflix, the Blockbuster interview series,

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Speaker 1: where they complained about every aspect of their lives and

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Speaker 1: cast themselves as the innocent victims of two scheming families,

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Speaker 1: his Royal family and her American family. But I found

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Speaker 1: With Rove Meghan to be much less offensive than i'd expected.

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Speaker 1: It's engaging in a way. Her own social media content

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Speaker 1: just isn't. When Meghan is in charge, she comes across

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Speaker 1: as syrupy and inauthentic, like in this Instagram poste years.

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Speaker 3: But now I can so as things are starting to

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Speaker 3: trickle out there, I wanted you to hear it from me. First.

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Speaker 3: Of course, there will be fruit preserves. I think we're

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Speaker 3: all clear at this point that jam is my jam.

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Speaker 3: But there's so many more products that I just love

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Speaker 3: that I use in my home, and now it's time

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Speaker 3: to share it with you, so I can't wait you

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gaate, Netflix has ensured she comes across on the

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Speaker 1: show as charismatic and warm.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're doing this together for the first time,

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Speaker 1: I suspect this will be partly about age. There will

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Speaker 1: be millennials and gen zetters who think Megan has been

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Speaker 1: cruelly treated by the heteronormative and racist royal family, and

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Speaker 1: suspect the majority who aren't buying what she's selling.

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Speaker 4: I was quite intrigued how she started with bumblebees and thought, wow,

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Speaker 4: that's interesting. But then she asked some questions about you know,

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Speaker 4: how long the bees live for Yet she claims to

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Speaker 4: have been beekeeping for a year, so there was just

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Speaker 4: a little bit of disconnect there that I thought was intriguing.

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Speaker 4: So and then I was just incredulous when and I

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Speaker 4: wrote this, I wrote, as a self described working mother,

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Speaker 4: Meghan gives other working parents tips on how to make

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Speaker 4: a cake in the four hours of waiting for bees

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Speaker 4: wax candles to set, all the while wearing pristine white

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Speaker 4: clothes of course without an apron, and then with the

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Speaker 4: honey from the bees, you two can make a three

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Speaker 4: layered honeycake, she tells her guests. Now her guest is

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Speaker 4: a makeup artist that her kids, Prince Archie and Princess

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Speaker 4: Lilibet called uncle Daniel, and Daniel gushes in the vanishingly

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Speaker 4: rare moments, Meghan pauses to take a breath. And we

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Speaker 4: even learned from Meghan how tough life really was back

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Speaker 4: in the day, where she says, all those years I

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Speaker 4: had to do my makeup all by myself, So I yes,

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Speaker 4: I can't see too many Australian women resonating with that

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Speaker 4: at all. You know, we're supposed to feel sorry for her.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Now you've covered the full Megan markle arc from engagement

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Speaker 1: new iteration of her as I guess an influencer on TV.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember what your initial impressions of her were

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Speaker 1: and how your assessment of her has changed over those years.

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Speaker 4: I certainly can, because it was back in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 4: embraced by the British community. I mean, everybody loved her.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wanted to love her. They thought she was such

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Speaker 4: a breath of fresh air to the starchy royal family,

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Speaker 4: and everybody just wanted Prince Harry to fall in love

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Speaker 4: all so thrilled for him. And it went sour that

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Speaker 4: that the British public put out for her there. But

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Speaker 4: it did go very sour, very quickly within a year.

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Speaker 4: For me, I was hearing whispers from some of my

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Speaker 4: of course I discounted it originally, I've got a whole

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Speaker 4: then just very slowly just seemed to gather momentum, and

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Speaker 4: We feel betrayed. We welcomed you and now you're treating

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Speaker 1: Coming up. So if the critics hate, we love Meghan,

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Speaker 1: why is Netflix commissioning another season. Then came the Oprah interview,

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Speaker 1: in which Meghan framed her experience as essentially being one

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Speaker 1: of racism, not just racism inflicted by members of the

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Speaker 1: Royal family in some very damaging allegations, but the British

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Speaker 1: press and the public. She positioned herself as a victim

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Speaker 1: of institutional and societal racism, didn't she.

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Speaker 4: She did, And I think that that a big mistake

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Speaker 4: because in Britain the issue of her being biracial had

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Speaker 4: not been raised really, It was more that she was

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Speaker 4: an American that was an issue. It wasn't a divorcee

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Speaker 4: we didn't think that. And of course some of the

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Speaker 4: allegations she made were just completely wrong as well, about

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was the most outrageous claims that were

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Speaker 4: proven to be totally incorrect.

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Speaker 1: I thought when they launched their deals with Netflix and

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Speaker 1: what they had been talking about as royals in their

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Speaker 1: of water programs in Nigeria or educational documentaries about elephants.

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Speaker 1: In fact, what they have produced is a podcast by

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Speaker 1: her Archetypes, which was basically her interviewing famous friends, then

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Speaker 1: a bit of an epiphany. I was like, Oh, this

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Speaker 1: woman's actually a lifestyle blogger, she's an influencer. She actually

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Speaker 1: uses the word hostessing. She sprinkles flowers on everything. This

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Speaker 4: But she portrayed herself as being that serious. Remember, she

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Speaker 4: having a very understated yet very clear role being a royal.

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Speaker 4: And she just didn't fit into it, and she didn't

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Speaker 1: Are we seen now? Do you think one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why the Queen was not open to the kind

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Speaker 1: of half in, half out model that Harry and Meghan wanted,

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Speaker 1: where they wanted to earn their own income or at

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Speaker 1: least part of their own income, but also still be

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Speaker 1: working Royals. No, we're seeing what a commercial venture by

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Speaker 1: Meghan and Harry looks like. It's the edible flower sprinkles.

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Speaker 1: Was that going to be just never acceptable to the Queen?

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Speaker 4: Do you think the Queen was a very smart woman,

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Speaker 4: wasn't she She saw straight through Meghan. I think she

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Speaker 4: also saw straight through that she would lose control of

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Speaker 4: Meghan and Harry, especially because they were going to another country.

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Speaker 4: And I think she realized that it wasn't going to

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Speaker 4: And if she had allowed that to happen, then where

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Speaker 4: do you draw the line. It's a very delicate line

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Speaker 4: that here in Britain the Royal family don't accept freak goods.

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Speaker 4: They don't market themselves, they don't expect payment for things,

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Speaker 4: which was very different to what Meghan and Harry were proposing.

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Speaker 4: And of course we've had the next series announced, which

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Speaker 4: has been presented so gleefully by men on her social

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Speaker 4: here is that normally, in presenting a second series, the

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Speaker 4: TV networks have a big build up about it. There's

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Speaker 4: a sense of anticipation will another series happen. We all

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Speaker 4: can't wait for the next series. And yet for Netflix,

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Speaker 4: they've chosen to release this second series or announce it

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Speaker 4: think they realize they just want to get rid of it.

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Speaker 4: They've already filmed it. It was filmed at the same

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Speaker 4: time as the first series, so it doesn't involve any

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Speaker 4: extra money. It's in the can. They can just produce it,

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Speaker 4: throw it out there, get rid of it before there's

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Speaker 4: any renegotiation of that very hefty contract that they had signed,

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Speaker 4: and that's about to come to an end. So I

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Speaker 4: suggest that Netflix just perhaps clearing out the cupboards of

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Speaker 4: anything of Harry and Meghan before that renegotiation happens.

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