1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey there, healthy listeners, thanks for joining us on this 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Body and Soul podcast. I hope you are staying healthy 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: ish as the weather cools down. It's getting chill, isn't it. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I am Felicity Harley. Joining us today is Aaron Scully. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: He's a strength and conditioning coach currently working with the 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Newcastle Night He is also founder of I Perform Lab 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: and today we are discussing the most important thing you 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: can do to prevent well injuries, not just now but 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: also in the future. Now if you like what you 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: hear from Aaron, and I know you will, it's a 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: really good chat this one. Make sure you're listening to 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Extra Healthy Ish, where we go a bit deeper into injuries, 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: including prevention management, and we also discuss well fem our 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: related injuries in catch that wherever we get your podcasts. Aaron, 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us today. 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: How are you a very good Thank you yourself? 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. Actually, I'm excited to talk to you. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: We haven't covered injuries for a very long time on 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: the podcast, so took us through some common injuries that 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: perhaps every I know you work with elite athletes to 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, the rest of us. The everyday athlete, 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: what are some common ones you see out there? 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Oh look, I mean you can't go past you know, 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: the old calf strains and handscering strains, and you know 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: just with your your runners, your runner's knee, and you 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: know all sorts of little achilles, tendenoprathies and things like that, 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: so that they're probably the most common things. And then 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: as you get older, you're looking at things in and 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: around your loll back and your heat. 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: So so it's funny how they're just the little calf strain. 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: It sounds so little, and I know in elite athlete 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: terms it is so little. Well actually, you know people 33 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: can miss games for having strained calves, but it's amazing 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: As an everyday athlete, it can just take over your 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: your life and you're like, oh my gosh, I can't 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: exercise for weeks. 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh look. 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: It's especially you know for the weekend warrior that wants 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: to sign up them you know, play another season of 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: netball or oz tag or touch footy, and you know 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: they're in their late thirties and whatnot, and they realize that, 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: you know, you kind of need to train a little 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: bit before you go out and do those things, so 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: tends to be things like hampshets and cars that are 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: the first things to go. That's why they call them 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: a bit of a old man's or old ladies injury. 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Hey, not old lady at thirty five, let's say late no, no. 48 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Do I actually really love that because that is what 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: we all feel when we you know, I did actually 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: play touch footy in summer and yeah, we're all over 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: well many of us are over forty, and we're all like, 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we are old ladies running around out there. 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: Talk to us about determining someone's injury risk profile or 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: how do you determine in the lab? And then how 56 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: can the rest of us that can't get to your 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: lab in Newcastle work out? What is our injury risk? 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: What are they? 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess the way that I approach it, 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: and I cannot, you know, not speak to everybody. There's 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: a lot of different ways of're doing and injuries are 62 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: multi factorial in that there's a lot of different things 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: that contribute to them. 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: But one of the things that we know that. 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: Contributes to injuries is things like imbalances and weakness. 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: So we know. 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: That you know, if there's a over ten percent asymmetry 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 3: between right and left and say your cars, your hamstrings, 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: your groins, then there's an added increased risk to injury. 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: But also if you're weak in those areas also you 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: put yourself at an increased risk. So the way we 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: determine this is we kind of use some of the 73 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: latest technology that's commonly used by athletes and professional sporting 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: organizations around the world, and you know, things like Nord 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: boards and fourth plates and fourth frames and all these 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: real sex and toys. I guess give us an objective 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: measurement of how strong these individuals actually are in those areas, 78 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: and from there we can determine, you know. 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: If they're at an increased risk of injury. 80 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: Now we can't say that you're going to injure yourself, 81 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: but we'll say, well, based on research, based on evidence, 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: based off benchmarks that we have, you're at an increased 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: risk of doing something such as your hams during broad 84 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: on your calf, and without information, we can target an 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: intervention to. 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: Mitigate that area of being injured. Strength train. 87 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting approach, isn't it. What about if 88 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: we can't you know, if we don't have access to 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: all this tech. If we're at home, are there any 90 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: things that we can check in with ourselves or do 91 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean the balance is really interesting. For example, 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: are there any things that we can do at home 93 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: to check our injury risk or profile. 94 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: I'm going to be completely honest and as I'll be 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: blunt here, get strong and if you're strong, get stronger 96 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: because strength is a big key to longevity, being active. 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: You know, we talk about balance stability falls in. 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: The aging population. 99 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: Everything comes down to muscle mass and getting stronger. You know, 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: squat large, push, pull, rotate, all those fundamental movements. 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: And I'm not talking you. 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 3: Know things like you know, bodyweight squats for ten reps. 103 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: I'm talking like load up and you don't need to 104 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: be a power list, but you need to be doing 105 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: something that's going to get your heart rate up and 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: challenge you. That's the only way you're going to get stronger, 107 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: and through there you nullify a lot of these risks. 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: That's probably the main point in terms of how do 109 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: you go. 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: About getting these getting these. 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: Information outside or you know, if you're not necessarily where 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: I am, well, a lot of good phusiast will have 113 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: some of this technology, and a lot of good gyms 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: will have some of this technology. But it's one thing 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: just to go and get a whole lot of testing dumb, 116 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: But that's another thing to kind of get a really 117 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: good target. 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: And intervention and stick to it. So insistencies also the key. 119 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, great advice. What about overtraining? Do you see many 120 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: people come in who have overtrained? And I mean, I 121 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: feel like I'm seeing other end of the spectrum. There's 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are just well running half 123 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: marathons and marathons, and there's just so much overtraining, and 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: this we know can also lead to injury. Any warning 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: signs here. 126 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: I reckon a lot of you. 127 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: I reckon overtraining would peak around January one when all 128 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: the solutions start, and kind of fall off around February. 129 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: But to answer your question, you know, there's probably two 130 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: ways of looking at this, and this is probably more 131 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: anecdotical than anything. 132 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: But if you haven't been doing much and. 133 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: Then you decide that you want to go to a 134 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: marathon or whatever, be progressive with your training, be consistent 135 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: with it, but don't try to do everything all at once, 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: because that's when we're going to run in a little 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: bit of trouble. One thing that we know about injuries 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: and tendons in particular is they don't like holidays and 139 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: they don't like prices. 140 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: So when you go from nothing to doing a lot, 141 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: things start to flare up. 142 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: And when you go from doing a lot to nothing, 143 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: then you're putting yourself at that riskl when you go 144 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: and do something again. So instead of training for your 145 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: mouth on five days a week, maybe start with two 146 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: days a week and then the next week three and 147 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: be progressive. Listen to your body because if you're feeling 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: tired like you need to sleep, then it's probably a 149 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: sleep related tiredness. 150 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: If you're feeling sore. 151 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: Af you unmotivated, then chances are that's mirroring the type 152 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: of training that you're doing. So there's no really definitey 153 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: answer there, but you've got to lay a little bit 154 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: of intelligence to that as well, you know, understanding your body. 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, trust me. That was an excellent answer, Aaron, 156 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on healthy. 157 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Ish No, thanks for having me. 158 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Well, there we go. Friends, Strength training, strength, feeling strong, 159 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: being strong will help prevent injury. If you did enjoy 160 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: this chat with Aaron, jump on rate and review it. Or, 161 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: of course, you can subscribe to this podcast, share this 162 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: set with a friend, Spread the healthy Ish, Love anything Else, 163 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: head body and soul dot com dot you follow us 164 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: on socials. 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