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Speaker 1: On Sky Wields Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Winder Paney Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight, we have a digital only special and we've

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Speaker 3: got the best of the best, the fabulous Panel featuring

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Speaker 3: gab Power and Caroline Markers, the always insightful Kosure Gata

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Speaker 3: on the latest from the US, and we do have

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Speaker 3: a token mail tonight. My second favorite Texan Alex Stein

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Speaker 3: will be here too.

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Speaker 4: Let's jump right into it. Johnny min Now is host.

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Speaker 3: Of The Power Hour, Gabriella Power and Sky News Senior

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Speaker 3: reporter Caroline Marcus Ladies.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the University of Sydney.

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Speaker 3: They're looking to hire a teen academics to help indigenize

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Speaker 3: and decolonize their courses. One of the new roles is

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Speaker 3: for a senior Education Design Officer who would be executing

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Speaker 3: transformative curriculum projects aimed at embedding average regional and Torres

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Speaker 3: Strait Islander knowledge perspectives, texts and media within curricula projects.

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Speaker 4: Caroline, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: Our students are prospective employers calling out for Sydney. You

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Speaker 3: need to do this to decolonize the curriculum.

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Speaker 5: I very much doubt it. I certainly haven't seen any

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Speaker 5: such calls reader, But it's gener typical of our academia,

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Speaker 5: isn't it. I mean, what does this even mean? Does

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Speaker 5: decolonizing the curriculum mean you have to change the language

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Speaker 5: because English is the language of the colonizers. After all,

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Speaker 5: we're going to be expecting the students to do their

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Speaker 5: courses in one of the many Aboriginal languages that there

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Speaker 5: are in this country. Look, it's part of this sort

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Speaker 5: of ridiculous move to decolonize everything. Just the other day

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Speaker 5: we saw reports of moves to decolonized breastfeeding whatever that means.

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Speaker 5: What Universe City of Sydney, which is the country's oldest university,

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Speaker 5: should really be doing is de anti semitizing its campus

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Speaker 5: because it was It holds the terrible honor of having

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Speaker 5: the longest running pro Palestinian encampment on its grounds, which

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Speaker 5: featured members of his book career and extremist Islamist group

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Speaker 5: that the university failed to expel from its grounds who

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Speaker 5: were part of these encampments, and its vice chancellor has

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Speaker 5: had to apologize for Jewish students and staff for failing

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Speaker 5: them so instead of putting their resources and their energies

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Speaker 5: into tackling that racism. They introduced this whole new kind

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Speaker 5: of segregation. It would seem a move to segregate Indigenous

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Speaker 5: students from other races Australians, White Australians, foreign students. It's

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Speaker 5: you know, it's completely mystifying to me, but it also

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Speaker 5: doesn't surprise given what we see in institutions around this country.

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Speaker 4: Gabby.

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Speaker 3: We've seen universities using our money, our tax pay money

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Speaker 3: to push this sort of activism, and I would say

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Speaker 3: they're also selling false hope. We have so many junk

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Speaker 3: degrees that really don't help the graduate find a good

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Speaker 3: job and saddle them with debt, waste years of their time,

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Speaker 3: and I'd like a little bit of focus on that

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Speaker 3: because they seem to be just money making machines that

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Speaker 3: are also in the business of activism.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I couldn't agree more with what Caroline said.

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Speaker 6: Sydney University needs to do a better job of focusing

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Speaker 6: on getting rid of its anti Semitism after those disgusting

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Speaker 6: displays that we saw last year where anti Semitism was

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Speaker 6: allowed to fester. We saw those anti Israel encampments taking

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Speaker 6: place Jewish students targeted and this just comes as no

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Speaker 6: surprise that this is what Sydney University is doing. And

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Speaker 6: if somehow decolonizing the curriculum was going to somehow achieve

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Speaker 6: better outcomes for Indigenous Australians, and of course I'd support it,

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Speaker 6: I absolutely would.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone would.

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Speaker 4: But it is activism.

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Speaker 6: It is going to make no difference to the lives

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Speaker 6: of Indigenous Australians. And I completely agree with what Just

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Speaker 6: Enterprise has had to say on this issue today. She

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Speaker 6: said that the University of Sydney is trying to ingrain

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Speaker 6: separatist notions. She said that this is just another example

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Speaker 6: of a demonstration of an inner city elites just entrenching

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Speaker 6: ideas of separatism on our education system. And her point

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Speaker 6: that she makes is that the latest Closing the Gap

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Speaker 6: data suggests that Indigenous Australians are still behind other Australians

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Speaker 6: in year twelve completion rates, and also that targets for

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Speaker 6: so these ideas, oh, these issues rather should be taking priority,

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Speaker 6: not these ideological concerns such as decolonizing the curricula. And

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Speaker 6: she's absolutely correct. The priorities are completely wrong. Warren Mundine,

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Speaker 6: of course, like the no vote last year, also claims

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Speaker 6: that this is just in doctrination. We're not seeing universities

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Speaker 6: challenging ideas, challenging concepts that you know, this should be

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Speaker 6: a place where we are really way more free and

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Speaker 6: engage in freedom of academic study. This is absolutely outrageous,

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Speaker 6: but again it doesn't surprise me. It comes after and

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Speaker 6: it's not Sydney Union that's alone in this. We just

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Speaker 6: saw recently Mcquarie University. It's now under a view for

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Speaker 6: making sure that students were marked on their ability to

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Speaker 6: deliver an acknowledgment of country. Its something that is just

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Speaker 6: so tokenistic.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we voted no in the race based referendum, but

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Speaker 3: the universities, the academics are just ignoring the people's will

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Speaker 3: and are pushing ahead. They're doubling down on this race

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Speaker 3: based activism. Now let's turn our attention to Minique Ryan's

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Speaker 3: seat of Qyong, where some of our supporters have been

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Speaker 3: busy destroying signs promoting the liberal candidate. They're Melia Hamer. Yesterday,

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Speaker 3: this vision of Monique Ryan's husband Peter Jordan, tearing down

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Speaker 3: a poster made headlines around the country. Are you a

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Speaker 3: Monique Ryan supporter of ripping down people's signs?

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Speaker 7: Are you?

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Speaker 8: Is that what you're doing?

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Speaker 9: It belongs to me. Hey, you can take it off

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Speaker 9: the property, but it belongs to me.

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Speaker 10: If it goes back up, it'll be taken down again.

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Speaker 11: There you go, Monique Ryan, There you go community values.

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Speaker 3: You can see he's not very apologetic there. But after

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Speaker 3: that vision made it to the media, he did apologize.

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Speaker 3: But now a number of other instances of the til

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Speaker 3: MP supporters vandalizing Amelia Hamer post have come to light,

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Speaker 3: including this one interat This is not a very good

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Speaker 3: look for the MP gab even though she's not the

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Speaker 3: one who's participating in this, it is her campaign. Her

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Speaker 3: own husband was caught doing this. Ah, how do you

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Speaker 3: think the electorate is going to view this?

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Speaker 6: How embarrassing for Minnie Ryan and her husband. Thank goodness,

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Speaker 6: he was caught on camera for trying to take down

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Speaker 6: that poster, walking away claiming that it was illegal. But

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Speaker 6: I was speaking to people in Victoria in that electric

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Speaker 6: yesterday and they were saying they were telling me that

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Speaker 6: this is nothing new.

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Speaker 4: But what is.

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Speaker 6: Different about it is that this sign was getting taken

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Speaker 6: down in broad daylight. The vision that you just played

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Speaker 6: there is what has been occurring. If you've got a

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Speaker 6: Liberal Party poster at the front of your home, it's

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Speaker 6: likely not going to last twenty four hours. People from

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Speaker 6: different campaigns are tearing them down and it's.

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Speaker 4: Just such a poor reflection.

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Speaker 1: But I think the.

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Speaker 6: People in Kunon know what they're getting with Monique Ryan.

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Speaker 6: We saw her side with the Greens in parliamentary votes,

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Speaker 6: and this election is going to be such a different

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Speaker 6: one than the previous election, where the Tears were just

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Speaker 6: campaigning on climate change. Everyone is concerned about the cost

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Speaker 6: of living crisis, and so I think Monique Ryan is

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Speaker 6: really going to struggle. Obviously, this is not a good

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Speaker 6: look for her. It's highly embarrassing and it says a

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Speaker 6: bit about Monique's Menique Ryan's husband I should say.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I'm surprised he wasn't wearing a mask when

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Speaker 3: he was out there taking posters, because we know how

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Speaker 3: much Monique Ryan loves a mask.

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Speaker 12: Caroline.

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Speaker 3: It's quite amusing because at the twenty twenty two election,

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Speaker 3: Monique Ryan actually released a statement pledging and I quote

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Speaker 3: here not to alter or damage the election collateral or

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Speaker 3: electoral properties of other candidates, but it seems a husband

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Speaker 3: and a number of her supporters don't share those sentiments.

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Speaker 5: Well, either they've decided to move away from that promise

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Speaker 5: or should they're just acting on their own accord. What

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Speaker 5: I found pretty shocking in that video was how brazen

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Speaker 5: it was of her husband. Not only did it happen

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Speaker 5: in broad daylight, but I mean he's walking across the

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Speaker 5: street with this huge poster on his arm. The person

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Speaker 5: who caught him on camera was the homeowner's son. He

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Speaker 5: asks him repeatedly, who are you?

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Speaker 4: What's your name?

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Speaker 5: And he refuses to say, as if that wouldn't come

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Speaker 5: out at some point it was, and then he obviously

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Speaker 5: issues this belated apology once he is called and the

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Speaker 5: footage goes on air and it goes viral. A little

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Speaker 5: bit late for that, But you know, the other thing

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Speaker 5: that the Teals campaigned on was, of course, integrity. Not

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Speaker 5: just Monique Ryan, but all the Teals promised to have

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Speaker 5: more integrity as a party. Wanted to call it out,

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Speaker 5: wanted to call out the bullying, the shouting, And yet

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Speaker 5: we see time and time again how either the Teals themselves,

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Speaker 5: or their supporters, or even their spouse in this case

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Speaker 5: engage in that same kind of conduct which has the

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Speaker 5: polar opposite of integrity. You know, we've seen Zalie Staggle

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Speaker 5: shout abuse at the Opposition leader Peter Dutton, having to

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Speaker 5: floor of Parliament. We've seen a legros spender, the Teal

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Speaker 5: MP for Wentworth just yesterday have to apologize for failing

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Speaker 5: to declare another three trusts that she had she hadn't

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Speaker 5: disclosed or log that came after seven companies that she

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Speaker 5: failed to disclose. She said these were oversights, but this

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Speaker 5: is not what they themselves campaigned on and people do

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Speaker 5: need to see, voters, do you need to see that

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Speaker 5: they're getting a politician like any other politician in many

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Speaker 5: respects and sometimes even worse.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's get the latest on the disaster that is

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Speaker 3: Disney's reimagining of a snow White, the film with the

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Speaker 3: lead actress Rachel Zegler campaigned for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: That hasn't helped.

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Speaker 13: Think oh for Kamala Harris, and it's actually non negotiable.

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Speaker 13: Our rates are on the line, folks, are reproductive rates.

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Speaker 13: Come on Gov Up Blue and if you disagree with

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Speaker 13: the sentiment.

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Speaker 4: Just set the on follow button. I don't need your business. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Well, the reviews are in, and it's a film that

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Speaker 3: has been widely panned. Even the most progressive publications really

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Speaker 3: had nothing nice to say about it. It seems nothing

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Speaker 3: will save this disaster. Let's look at some of the reviews.

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Speaker 3: Just some of the summaries here. Lazy and visually repellent,

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Speaker 3: said The Independent, Exhaustingly all full and toe curlingly terrible,

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Speaker 3: said The Guardian. The most controversial Disney adult nightmare ever

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Speaker 3: said Rolling Shown. A strange hot mess, said the Huffington Posts.

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Speaker 3: And good enough for TV, said Vanity Affairs. That's possibly

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Speaker 3: the most positive review we've found there. The box office

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Speaker 3: figures aren't great either. It earned eighty seven million on

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Speaker 3: its global debut against the estimated two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: million it costs. Now, we see it will make more money,

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Speaker 3: but you compare that to what The Lion King released

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Speaker 3: back in twenty nineteen May. Just in America, in its

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Speaker 3: first weekend, it was one hundred and ninety one million,

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Speaker 3: So their expectations, obviously when they spend that sort of money,

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Speaker 3: were a lot higher. Caro, it is a hot mess.

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Speaker 3: Can they salvage something out of this?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I don't think so, I really don't. I mean,

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Speaker 5: eclomy shocks. But when you have the lead actress playing,

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Speaker 5: you know, the title role in the film, coming out

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Speaker 5: and alienating half of its potential audience by saying that

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Speaker 5: Trump supporters, Trump voters and Trump himself should never know

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Speaker 5: peace f Donald Trump. That's another one of her lines

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Speaker 5: in the lead up to this film. What do you

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Speaker 5: honestly expect? I mean, they had to stop actually promoting

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Speaker 4: Well, they could just write a new story.

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Speaker 3: I means, you don't have to take a classic fairy

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Speaker 3: But this poor woman is facing This is a massive

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's been called now this full on MAGA

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Speaker 5: It to be it for me to suggest that, you know,

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Speaker 5: democrats may be sexist. Look, no, it's ridiculous. Gwen Stefani

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Speaker 3: But Blake Shelton's involvement is also hilarious. The fact that

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Speaker 4: Ladies.

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Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure, thanks for your time tonight. Now

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Speaker 4: She felt emboldened to be.

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Speaker 3: A nasty blee, after all, she's in deep blue New York.

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Speaker 3: But listen as others in the carriage tell her to

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Speaker 11: Literally, how good is that?

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Speaker 4: Can you believe?

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Speaker 3: That crazy woman chase that poor kid? As I said,

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Speaker 3: instant karma. Now, the Democrats are in all sorts of trouble.

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Speaker 3: Their approval rating is under thirty percent in the twenties,

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Speaker 14: No one could have told me that when I went

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Speaker 14: So it's not what my plan.

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Speaker 3: Was, what a nice girl, but marvel here at the

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Speaker 4: The trans kids. They want to play the sports lord,

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Speaker 14: Since Win find the little trans child that is ruining

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Speaker 3: I'm just like talk about Kamala two point zero, God forbid.

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Speaker 3: And now that she's adopted this ghetto persona. Despite her

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Speaker 14: On March twenty ninth, It's my birthday and all I

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Speaker 4: Yes, what a nice girl.

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Speaker 3: And here she talks about wanting to punch opponents, including

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Speaker 14: I think that you punch.

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Speaker 4: I think you punch you.

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Speaker 14: Okay, we're punching, but.

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Speaker 4: Like it's dere Cruz.

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Speaker 14: I mean like this dude has to be knots over

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Speaker 15: Off on him, right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, the modern Democrats are the party of Neo Marxis,

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Speaker 4: Isn't just about Republicans either.

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Speaker 8: We need a Democratic party that fights harder for us too.

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Speaker 9: We have a message for mister Trump, and.

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Speaker 7: That is.

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Speaker 2: We will not allow you to move this country into

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Speaker 3: No wonder Gavin Usam is trying to relaunch himself as

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Speaker 3: What chere as he claims that no one in his

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Speaker 15: By the way, not one person ever in my office

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Speaker 4: So can we finally put that to bad Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It was him, right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: They're not even serious joining me now?

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Speaker 3: Is Sky News contributor Kosha geta kosher We just saw

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Speaker 3: Francisco mayor as California governor, can you really pull it off?

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Speaker 4: Or is there's just too much baggage.

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Speaker 16: There's a lot of baggage, and in this era we

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Speaker 16: live in with unlimited videotape and clips immediately come out

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Speaker 16: to counter them. It's really hard to just completely brush

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Speaker 16: under the rug what you've done. But I do think

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Speaker 16: the right should dismiss him at their own peril because

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Speaker 16: he is a very savvy operator. He presents very well,

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Speaker 16: he's good looking, has the hair, is now he's doing

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Speaker 16: this thing of inviting right wing people onto his podcast.

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Speaker 16: It's all part of the strategy because he does see,

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Speaker 16: as you say, a void in there, there is an

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Speaker 16: obvious leader. He's crafting his entry onto the national stage

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Speaker 16: for obvious reasons, and we'll.

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Speaker 4: See if it works.

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Speaker 16: Well, see if it works. I find it difficult just

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Speaker 16: because his record is so far left outside of the

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Speaker 16: means from the party, and that will come out.

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Speaker 3: Like he's had just significant failures in California. But like

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Speaker 3: you said, he's going to have the media on his side.

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Speaker 3: He's very good looking, he's charismatic. People who are not

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Speaker 3: particularly engaged in politics would I think, be a little

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Speaker 3: bit bamboozled by his presentation. He seems like someone who

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Speaker 3: is competent. But then you look at what's happening in

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Speaker 3: California and it's a mess.

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Speaker 16: It is, and I think the wildfires as an example.

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Speaker 16: You know, things feed because memories are short, but just

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Speaker 16: the video and the imagery around that is going to

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Speaker 16: live on for a very long time. And he presided

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Speaker 16: over that along with others. So I do think he's

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Speaker 16: got an uphillar battle, but do not discount him.

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Speaker 3: Now mentioned Jasmine Crockett's ill considered comments. Earlier, Attorney General

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Speaker 3: Pam Bondi has had this warning for the Democrat after

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Speaker 3: she was accused of inciting violence.

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Speaker 1: Now you have this congresswoman Crockett who is calling for

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Speaker 1: attacks on Elon Musk on her birthday. Let's take him

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Speaker 1: out on my birthday, she says. Yet she turns and says, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not calling for violence. Well, she is an elected

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Speaker 1: public official, and so she needs to tread very carefully.

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk has death threats against incredible death threats, many

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Speaker 3: of them. You would think any politician would not be

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Speaker 3: pouring fuel on that fire. And those comments where you

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Speaker 3: think they amount to incitement or not, they're unwarranted.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely. So the bar for legal standard for incitement is

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Speaker 16: very very high for good reason in the US. And

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Speaker 16: as long as they're playing with words, you know, it's

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Speaker 16: just words. But they do skirt awfully close to that

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Speaker 16: line and be that as it made. It's not about

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Speaker 16: legal adjudication, it's about just what a leader of a

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Speaker 16: constituency should behave like. But the thing is that they

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Speaker 16: do have a political shield where they know that it

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Speaker 16: is difficult for Pamboni or somebody on the other side

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Speaker 16: to really go after them and litigate them even if

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Speaker 16: that's true. So they use that and that's why you

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Speaker 16: see her. You see Maxine Waters comes to mind. She

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Speaker 16: used to see pushback. You had Chuck Schumer reaping the

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Speaker 16: whirlwind against the Supreme Court on the steps. You had

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Speaker 16: Governor Phil Murphy of New Jersey seeing openly that he's

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Speaker 16: eating in a betting and illegal on top of his garage,

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Speaker 16: which is against the laws. So they're definitely coming very

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Speaker 16: close to that line. And we'll see how much the

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Speaker 16: other side pushes back.

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Speaker 3: And this is after a Republican was shot during a

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Speaker 3: baseball game, Steve Scilice, and it seems to have really

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Speaker 3: not sent the message home that they do have lunatic

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Speaker 3: supporters who could take something that he said, even if

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Speaker 3: it's kind of ingest, kind of not and do some damage.

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Speaker 4: Now we talked about.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be the next lead day is at AOC?

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Speaker 4: Is it Bernie Sanders?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Gavin Usen? Kamala Harris is the one who's leading the polls.

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Speaker 3: This is how badly the Democrats going. The failed presidential

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Speaker 3: candidate is the most popular option for twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: according to a recent pole. Surely she can't run again.

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Speaker 3: Do you think she has the appetite to do it?

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Speaker 3: And would they be stupid enough to run her again?

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Speaker 3: Because she was a uniquely terrible candidate appetite.

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Speaker 16: I think she very well made invisibility. We've seen that

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Speaker 16: before because she has never won anything competitive. She's great

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Speaker 16: at getting appointed.

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Speaker 5: She's really good at.

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Speaker 16: Climbing the internal machinery of the Democrat Party. Yes, her

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Speaker 16: positions in California were elected, but in California, as long

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Speaker 16: as you're the chosen one within the Democrats are pretty

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Speaker 16: much guaranteed that position. And we've seen how she's done

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Speaker 16: every other which way. I think those pools just have

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Speaker 16: recency bias, that she's frashened people's minds. So she palls well,

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Speaker 16: but it's.

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Speaker 4: Not gonna last.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's a little bit of sympathy because

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Speaker 3: she did lose and lost badly, lost the popular vote,

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Speaker 3: lost every swing state. So I would imagine if you're

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Speaker 3: a Democrat, you'd feel a little bit sorry for her.

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Speaker 3: And this was a poll of Democrats and left leaning independence.

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Speaker 3: Now let's play this clip of Bill. He's among those

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Speaker 3: who can read the data and read it well and

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Speaker 3: see the blue states are losing population, They're losing people,

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Speaker 3: and they're losing power.

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Speaker 2: California is projected to lose three seats, New York two

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Speaker 2: also going to lose a seat. Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island,

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Speaker 2: Illinois or blue states. Who's getting these Texas, Florida, Idaho,

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Speaker 2: and Utah. I mean, this looks like game over.

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Speaker 4: It's very interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Because there has been a lot of fear that all

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Speaker 3: these Californians and New Yorkers, all these left leaning people

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Speaker 3: moving to places like Tennessee and Texas and Florida, we're

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Speaker 3: going to turn those states purple or perhaps blue down

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Speaker 3: the track that were going to take their voting records

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Speaker 3: with them. But perhaps it's actually going to work the

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Speaker 3: other way, that their population shift is going to see

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Speaker 3: more power for the red states.

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Speaker 16: So there's another counter dynamic at play. So the thing

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Speaker 16: underputting this, as you see is it's mass exodus from

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Speaker 16: states and cities and counties that they ruined with far

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Speaker 16: left policies, and then they themselves don't want to live

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Speaker 16: in them, whether it's taxes or cultural things or everything else.

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Speaker 16: So they believe and crime yeap things that really affect

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Speaker 16: your day to day real life, and there is that

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Speaker 16: problem on the downstream trickle effect of that in local

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Speaker 16: elections and the people that end up coming in they

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Speaker 16: do drift the lifestyle of the red states more blue.

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Speaker 16: But the counter dynamic over here that Bill Maher is

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Speaker 16: touching on is just a straight up mathematics because the

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Speaker 16: House seats are based on apportionment. If suddenly two percent

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Speaker 16: of the population moves from California to wherever Florida, then

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Speaker 16: they lose to house seats Florida gains. And also he

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Speaker 16: didn't mention this, but it would impact the electoral votes potentially,

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Speaker 16: which is based on the same thing census counting of

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Speaker 16: the population in each state, and that magical path to

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Speaker 16: victory of two seventy nine. It could look differently in

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Speaker 16: a few years if enough of this recalibration happens.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder if that trend is going to continue

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Speaker 3: now that Trump is president, because.

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Speaker 4: Is his impact going to be in our to keep people.

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Speaker 3: In blue states or are they going to be even

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Speaker 3: more likely to flee to the red states where they

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Speaker 3: can see this alignment between that state and the White

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Speaker 3: House and the policies that are being advocated.

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Speaker 16: It's a good point because if the big picture improves

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Speaker 16: the or role economy and wages and the job market

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Speaker 16: and crime and all of that that's under his purview,

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Speaker 16: maybe it'll make the left wing states more tolerable to them,

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Speaker 16: because there is a lot to love about those states.

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Speaker 16: California and New York have amazing things about them that

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Speaker 16: people I'm sure the bar is hire to finally leave them.

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Speaker 16: The problem is they think local politics and especially schools,

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Speaker 16: where that's the stuff that really hits home. And as

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Speaker 16: long as they keep letting boys play in girls sports

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Speaker 16: and things like that, I do think you'll see families

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Speaker 16: pick up and move.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is a big stuff up for the Trump administration,

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Speaker 3: and really, if this reporting is accurate, then heads need

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Speaker 3: to roll. The leftist activist editor in chief of The

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Speaker 3: Atlantic magazine, Jeffrey Goldberg was included on a message chain

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Speaker 3: in which top Trump administration officials discussed strikes against the

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Speaker 3: Hucci terror group in Yemen. Kosha this would be a

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Speaker 3: stunning breach of national security. One of the men in

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Speaker 3: that message, China Defense Secretary Peter Hegsitt, was asked about

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Speaker 3: the breach.

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Speaker 8: Can you share how your information about war plans against

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Speaker 8: the Hoopis and Yemen was shared with a journalist in

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Speaker 8: the Atlantic, and where those details classified details.

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Speaker 9: So you're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so

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Speaker 9: called journalists who's made a profession of pedaling hopes his

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Speaker 9: time and time again to include the I don't know

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Speaker 9: the hopes is of Russia Russia, Russia, or the fine

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Speaker 9: people on both sides hopes or suckers and losers hopes.

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Speaker 9: So this is the guy that pedals in garbage is.

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Speaker 1: What he does.

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Speaker 3: Kosher whoever's responsible, I don't care who was an innocent mista,

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Speaker 3: whether it was incompetence or malicious.

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Speaker 4: They have to go.

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Speaker 3: If this is accurate, it is such an enormous breach,

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Speaker 3: and you would just think in the second Trump term,

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Speaker 3: mistakes like this can't happen.

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Speaker 16: It's not good and they have very little margin fair

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Speaker 16: so on the merits of it already because it's about

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Speaker 16: a military strike national security. Potentially we haven't seen all

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Speaker 16: the messages that were in there, but potentially there was

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Speaker 16: classified or highly sensitive at least materials being used in

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Speaker 16: that channel. And then this journalist who is not a

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Speaker 16: friend of the administration at all, accidentally or maybe it

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Speaker 16: was sabotage.

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 16: We'll find out. We may never find out. I think

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Speaker 16: the issue is if it was Mike Walls in particular,

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Speaker 16: that's one thing that's out there in the reporting. He

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Speaker 16: also does bring a lot to the table national Security advisor,

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Speaker 16: and so the role he's playing with negotiating all these

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Speaker 16: deals globally, I'm sure President Trump will weigh that opposite,

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Speaker 16: you know, this breach if it were at staff for

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Speaker 16: a little bit different. And I'll also make the point

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Speaker 16: that it would show I think leadership if they did something,

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Speaker 16: especially if it's a staffer, because the same has not

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Speaker 16: happened in other branches, like the Supreme Court never told

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Speaker 16: us who lickd the Dobs decision, which was definitely malpractice

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Speaker 16: or sabotage. And if he does that over here, I

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Speaker 16: think it's a good message, but we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible because the journalist that's involved in this, Jeffrey Goldberg,

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Speaker 3: is no ordinary journalist, no ordinary editor. He has been

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Speaker 3: at the forefront complicit in multiple hoaxes and anti Trump propaganda,

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Speaker 3: including the Fine People hoax. So for him to be

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Speaker 3: the one involved, I think is astonishing. We will have

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Speaker 3: to wait and see just what the real truth is

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Speaker 3: behind this story.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about the peace.

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Speaker 3: Still between Russia and Ukraine that's being negotiated, and the

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Speaker 3: New York Post reports that despite the very tense meeting

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Speaker 3: with the US president last month, Ukrainian President Zelenski believed

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Speaker 3: Trump remains Ukraine's strongest weapon against Russian President Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 3: President Zolenski believes Trump is looking for a big win

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Speaker 3: on the world stage by ending the war, and he

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Speaker 3: said if he wants to, Trump can squeeze concessions from

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Speaker 3: the Russians because he seems to be the only one

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Speaker 3: that Putin fears. Zelenski said that to Time magazine. It

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Speaker 3: was his first interview since that Oval Office dust up.

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Speaker 3: It's been interesting to see how the fallout from that

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Speaker 3: has progressed. We saw Europe beating its chest and making

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Speaker 3: all sorts of pronouncements about boots on the ground, but

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Speaker 3: it's gone back to the US negotiating this piece. Still,

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Speaker 3: it's gone back to precisely what the White House wanted all.

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Speaker 16: Along, return to the fundamentals. After all that doest settled.

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Speaker 16: He's right, I think a lot of the points he

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Speaker 16: made President Zelenski in that piece where he says that

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Speaker 16: ultimately the US is his strongest weapon true because without

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Speaker 16: the US, they don't stand a chance. Was famously put

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Speaker 16: out into public and that meeting.

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Speaker 4: It's true.

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Speaker 16: I think he was honest when he said that Trump

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Speaker 16: is the one person Putin fears, and we can litigate

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Speaker 16: that word, but at least he wasn't saying Trump is

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Speaker 16: Putin's puppet, which is something that the other side has

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Speaker 16: been saying for far too long, and he is right.

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Speaker 16: The third thing he said is that the US can

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Speaker 16: squeeze Russia if they want. I think that's the key here.

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Speaker 16: That the administration may not necessarily want that because they

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Speaker 16: look through the lens of realism. They want to recalibrate

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Speaker 16: US and Russia relationships. Doesn't mean it's perfect, doesn't mean

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Speaker 16: everybody is perfect, but is that a better strategy for

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Speaker 16: advancing US interests when you look at China and everything else?

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Speaker 16: And that's kind of where he's going, So that's what

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Speaker 16: they're looking at. Legacy does matter to Trump for sure,

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Speaker 16: and the administration they want the win for political and

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Speaker 16: legacy reasons. All of that is true. And if there's

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Speaker 16: enough alignment across all the players on the chessboard, then

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Speaker 16: hopefully a deal happens soon.

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Speaker 3: And do you get the impression that what's best for

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Speaker 3: the US is going to be at the heart of

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Speaker 3: this steal. Of course, going to try to negotiate Advanche

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Speaker 3: is still for Ukraine, but it also has to benefit America,

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Speaker 3: because that's everything that.

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Speaker 4: Trump cares about.

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Speaker 3: And this point about putin fearing Trump that Zelenski made well,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he didn't do anything during Trump's first

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Speaker 3: term and now seems to be cooperating for now. It

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Speaker 3: says something because we've seen him behave very differently with

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Speaker 3: Biden and.

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Speaker 16: Barackob undeniably, and that point was made about the campaign.

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Speaker 16: People get it intuitively, and I think that's also why

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Speaker 16: the Trump administration they're going to try and negotiate, hopefully

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Speaker 16: as something with a lasting impact, because if the strategy

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Speaker 16: is that he fears only the person in the White

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Speaker 16: House now, that will end in three quarter years from now,

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Speaker 16: and so putting in place something that is stickier would

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Speaker 16: be beneficial for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Well, there was that rumor that did the rounds and

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Speaker 3: that the Trump camp did nothing to spell it that

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Speaker 3: he threatened to bomb Moscow if Vladimir Putin's forces invaded

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Speaker 3: Russia during his first term, and.

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Speaker 4: Fuchsion obviously took that seriously.

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Speaker 3: Whether whether he was ever going to follow through or

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Speaker 3: not is a different story, but the doubt was enough

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Speaker 3: to see him refrain from doing that.

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Speaker 4: Koshagta, thank you so much for your.

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Speaker 3: Time tonight, Joining me now is comedian and host of

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Speaker 3: Primetime with Alex Stein on Blaze TV. Alex Elon Musk's

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Speaker 3: transgender son has.

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Speaker 4: Featured in teen Vogue.

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Speaker 3: Vivian Jenna Wilson is also very active online.

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Speaker 5: Would you give us some of your political beliefs?

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Speaker 1: Kill everyone now, condone first degree murder, advocate cannibalism, felther

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Speaker 1: my politics, felt is my life?

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Speaker 3: Take whatever you like, and the twenty year old had

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Speaker 3: plenty of nasty things to say about his father. He said,

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Speaker 3: he's a pathetic man child. I'm not giving anyone that

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Speaker 3: space in my mind. The only thing that gets to

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Speaker 3: live free in my mind are drag queens. Alex Vivian's

725
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Speaker 3: story is part of the reason why Elon Musk changed

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Speaker 3: from a Democrat to a Republican, why he's so determined

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Speaker 3: to do something about their woke mind virus, as he

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Speaker 3: calls it, because his son started transitioning as a youngster.

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Speaker 10: Well, you're exactly right. I mean, having your son to

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Speaker 10: become a girl would be very traumatic, and I think

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Speaker 10: that you would be able to easily see that it

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Speaker 10: would be the indoctrination that these children are getting in

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Speaker 10: the normal public schools or even the private schools. But

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Speaker 10: what's happening here, Rita, and this is the problem that's

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Speaker 10: happening in most schools when a young person decides to transition.

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Speaker 10: We wouldn't let an eighteen year old, if you're under eighteen,

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Speaker 10: get a tattoo. Why do we let young kids transition?

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Speaker 10: The reason they do it, Rita, is because they want attention.

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Speaker 10: And when your dad is one of the richest people

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Speaker 10: in the world that is busy running ten different companies,

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Speaker 10: how else can you get your father's attention other than

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Speaker 10: trying to do something that's incredibly extreme, like changing your sex.

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Speaker 10: So in a way, it is very sad. This story

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Speaker 10: is very sad, But maybe it radicalized Elon Musk to

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Speaker 10: speak out against this and actually change the narrative and

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Speaker 10: you know, change the whole trajectory that we're currently on

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Speaker 10: when it comes to this gender ideology and doctrination.

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Speaker 3: Now we've spoken about the box office disaster that is

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Speaker 3: Disney's Snow White, and the lead actress's delusions of grandeur

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Speaker 3: are not helping here. She compares herself to a priceless

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Speaker 3: piece of art, the winged victory.

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Speaker 7: To everyone who hates when I win. The winged victory

753
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Speaker 7: came to the Loop in pieces, and people still line

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Speaker 7: up to see her.

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Speaker 4: And I can only help.

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Speaker 7: That despite my flaws, by my craps and my breaks,

757
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Speaker 7: and there are many of them, at every premiere and

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Speaker 7: everything I do, people will wait in line to see Alex.

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Speaker 3: What has been the reaction to Disney is that life

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Speaker 3: is expensive one goal.

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Speaker 10: Well, the reaction has been absolutely horrible. It is the

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Speaker 10: worst box office from a Disney live action remake that

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Speaker 10: they've ever done. In Dumbo didn't do very well, but

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Speaker 10: this is actually performing much lower than Dumbo. And this

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Speaker 10: couldn't happen to a better person. In my opinion, Rachel

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Speaker 10: is literally the star of a Disney movie, and she

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Speaker 10: acts like she's some sort of victim, and that's the

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Speaker 10: sort of mentality that is just poisoning people's minds, Like

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Speaker 10: she acts like her life is so bad considering she's

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Speaker 10: a multi millionaire actress living out every struggling actresses or

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Speaker 10: actors dream, and she just kind of, you know, hand

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Speaker 10: waves it like she's still some sort of victim, when

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Speaker 10: in reality, she should be a movie star, she should

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Speaker 10: be happy, she should be you know, a political or

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Speaker 10: positive but she's not that way. She loves Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 10: She was, you know, as woke as they are, and

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Speaker 10: you know, you know, they're saying, you know, go woke,

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Speaker 10: get broke, and Disney's going to lose money on this movie.

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Speaker 10: And I believe it only made less than a million

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Speaker 10: dollars in China, which is a huge indication that it

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Speaker 10: will not do well globally.

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness, may she didn't have a post saying if

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Speaker 3: you're going to vote for Trump, just unfollow me, and

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have just taken that

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Speaker 3: advice and not supportive of her projects. And in fact,

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Speaker 3: if the film is as bad as they say, you're

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Speaker 3: not going to go along and watch it anyway. Now,

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Speaker 3: another project that isn't doing it too well is Michelle

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Speaker 3: Obama's podcast. The figures haven't been great and she's out

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Speaker 3: there promoting, and you've got to give her credit for that.

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Speaker 3: She's out there doing interviews, and in this one, she's

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Speaker 3: asked about her political ambitions.

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Speaker 12: When people ask me what I ever run, the answer

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Speaker 12: is no, you know, I mean you then if you

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Speaker 12: ask me that, then you have absolutely no idea the

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Speaker 12: sacrifice that your kids make when your parents are in

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Speaker 12: that world. I think we've done enough, question asked and answered,

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Speaker 12: never going to happen, Alex.

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Speaker 3: The Obamas have done enough. I think we can agree

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 10: Oh, they've done more than enough. But you know, I

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Speaker 10: think there's real trouble in paradise. I think that's why

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Speaker 10: you know she's not going to run. It's because her

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Speaker 10: and Barock or you know, they're on the rocks, and

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Speaker 10: she wants to blame her children, and you know that's

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Speaker 10: her prerogative. But if her and Barock were still in love,

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Speaker 10: I don't know why she wouldn't consider running for president,

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Speaker 10: considering that she's probably more talented than Kamala Harris, and

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Speaker 10: that is you were just talking about earlier. You know,

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Speaker 10: that is who they predict to be the next candidate

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Speaker 10: for the next presidential election. So they have nobody to

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Speaker 10: put up or president that is actually likable, that has

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Speaker 10: really achieved anything that is noteworthy. So I wouldn't be

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Speaker 10: surprised if they tried to make her do this. But

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Speaker 10: she's not going to run because her and Obama are

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Speaker 10: obviously having relationship issues. So she has bigger fish to

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Speaker 10: fry than trying to run for president.

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Speaker 4: And that podcast.

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Speaker 3: You are familiar with the medium, You would have participated

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Speaker 3: in many successful podcasts. What would you advise her if

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Speaker 3: you were her producer?

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Speaker 4: How would you improve it?

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Speaker 3: Because thus far it has been not exactly been compelling,

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Speaker 3: and it hasn't been pulling in the figures.

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Speaker 10: I mean, if you want my honest opinion, how does

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Speaker 10: she make a successful podcast? It'd be easy just say

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Speaker 10: she loves Donald Trump. If she became conservative, it would

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Speaker 10: be the number one podcast. If she started talking like,

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Speaker 10: oh I love Trump, everybody would have to go listen

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Speaker 10: to it. So I'm just saying, if she wants numbers,

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Speaker 10: she wants views, she should do the opposite of what

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Speaker 10: we expected she should become. You know, she should be

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Speaker 10: you know, a big Trump supporter Trump podcast. Think about

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Speaker 10: the numbers that that would do.

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Speaker 3: You know what you're onto something she doesn't even have

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Speaker 3: to go that far.

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Speaker 4: If she just.

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Speaker 3: Deviates on one issue from the leftist group.

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Speaker 4: Think, it can be anything.

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Speaker 3: It could be men's in men in women's sport, it

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Speaker 3: could be net zero craziness, It could be any number

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Speaker 3: of policies. If she just took one of those and

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Speaker 3: took a contrary position to the left, yes, it would

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Speaker 3: have a huge reaction. Now, before you go, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to ask you about the Venezuelan gang bangers being sent

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Speaker 3: back to their home country, despite the fact that we've

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Speaker 3: got activist judges, some of them appointed by Barack Obama,

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Speaker 3: like Judge Patricia Millet, who are frustrating the efforts of

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration to deport these gang bangers. This judge

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Speaker 3: has even said, Alex that these prisoners are being treated

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Speaker 3: worse than Nazis.

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Speaker 4: What's your response to that.

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Speaker 10: It's ironic that she compared flying Venezuelan gang bangers back

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Speaker 10: to their home country of Venezuela as worse than the

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Speaker 10: Nazis retreated, Considering after World War Two, it's a well

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Speaker 10: known fact that a bunch of Nazis tried to run

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Speaker 10: away to Venezuela, So that doesn't even make sense. She

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Speaker 10: just doesn't even know her world's history. So trust me,

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Speaker 10: those Nazis would love to be in Venezuela instead of

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Speaker 10: the Nuremberg Trial. So she's insane. She's trying to handwave

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Speaker 10: if I said that earlier, but she's trying to act

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Speaker 10: like the Holocaust wasn't a big deal anytime she says that.

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Speaker 10: And I hate that. I hate that they always use

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Speaker 10: that term Nazi because it's just so misused and it's

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Speaker 10: not what's happening to these Venezuelan immigrants. I got a

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Speaker 10: free trip back home. I mean I would anybody would

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Speaker 10: accept a free plane trip back home. We should have

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Speaker 10: sent him back in the back of a bus my

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Speaker 10: personal opinion, but you know I'm not Tom Holman.

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Speaker 4: Alex Stean, thank you so much for your Tom tonight.

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Speaker 10: Thank you read always a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: And that's it for this special digital only edition. We'll

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Speaker 3: be back to glob programming Wednesday evening, with Douglas Murray

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Speaker 3: joining me at eleven pm.