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Speaker 1: I got you, Bloody Champions. She's a mental health fitness

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Speaker 1: an acceptance and commitment therapy practitioner, and she's a Japanese

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Speaker 1: psychology practitioner. She's the better half of the Paul Taylor

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Speaker 1: and Carly Taylor. She's the smarter, she's the better collaboration.

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Speaker 1: We'll call it a marriage, but fuck it.

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Speaker 2: Hi Carly, Hi, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thanks for being hat Should we say like to

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Speaker 1: tif Tiffany and Cook who was part of a polygamous

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Speaker 1: know if it's technically polygamy, but you are in a

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Speaker 1: very happy kind of trilogy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we have lots of love here.

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Speaker 1: Carly. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? I'm really good.

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Speaker 1: What's her? Is Carl's volume loud enough? Tiff good?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Okay?

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Speaker 1: He gumdrops? What have you been up to? You've just

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Speaker 1: been out, you know, doing God work, just helping the masses.

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Speaker 2: Do you know something I have been up to is

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Speaker 2: I've joined CrossFit, so CrossFit three times a week with

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Speaker 2: never thought that I would be saying that about CrossFit,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's something I'm looking forward to every week.

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Speaker 1: That we do. Oh the husband, I've heard of him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not pro or anti most of those things.

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Speaker 1: I think it's finding the right product, or the right class,

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Speaker 1: I get asked, it's like I get like you probably

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Speaker 2: Whatever I love about it is this is the second

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm really loving it and I love the

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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny you say that when we think

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Speaker 1: But very rarely to people talk about how do we

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Speaker 1: an environment, a situation, a culture that people look forward

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Speaker 3: I want to know, Charlie, what was your perception that

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Speaker 1: I think it's really important to try to at least build,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think even though you had one hundred and

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's going away or it's not

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying there with my clients, it's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think, you know, while being supportive

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Speaker 2: day is actually going to dictate what your position, your

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Speaker 2: health in two years time, I think it's hard for

431
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: people just the way our brains are wired far ahead

432
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: count it well.

433
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Speaker 1: And I think also there's no day to day. I

434
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Speaker 1: mean the good and bad is day to day. We

435
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: can kind of do bullshit to our bodies and for

436
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: the most part, we get away with it, and sometimes

437
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: we get away with it for fucking decades and you're like,

438
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. I've been doing bullshit to

439
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: my body forever. I'm fine. And by the way, and

440
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: even if I had to, I could turn this shit

441
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: around quickly if I had to. But you know, and

442
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: by the way, Carl, you've got to have a life. Yes,

443
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: you have a life, Carli.

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Speaker 2: And that's the that's the challenging one because it's interesting

445
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: because I if I ate donuts every day, I would

446
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: feel really, really sick, Like it just doesn't. I guess

447
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: in that respect, I'm kind of motivated to eat healthy

448
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: food because I know I've got a short term impact

449
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: on me because it feel good. Where if somebody just

450
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: has a junk food addiction and they don't actually feel anything,

451
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: then it's harder for them to be motivated to change.

452
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're not trying to be judgmental here, it's like,

453
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm fascinated with human potential, fascinated. I'm fascinated

454
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Speaker 1: with what people can do when either they have no

455
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: option or they believe they have no option. You know,

456
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: And I've told this too many times, but I probably

457
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: haven't told you, but my dad, you know, drank too much,

458
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: ate too much, moved too little for fucking ever, then

459
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: had a heart attack at seventy two, and then had

460
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: a quadruple bypass and came out of that like a

461
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: new man. Like he had no self control issues, no

462
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: WheelPower issues, no time management issues, because he was fucking

463
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: terrified of dying. So the guy who just couldn't get

464
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: his shit together got his shit together completely and lost heart.

465
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Speaker 1: I know, twenty five kilos in a few months, walked

466
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: every day and halved his food and reduced his booze

467
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: by eighty percent. And that was the same guy that

468
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: I was trying to get to do a version of

469
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: that for twenty years leading up to the heart attack.

470
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Has the heart attack, gets faced with his mortality, shits

471
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: himself metaphorically, is terrified and now all of a sudden,

472
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: that's like Craig, tell me what to do, Like, you know,

473
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: but pre heart attack to post heart attack. He didn't

474
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Speaker 1: have any more potential, he didn't have any more resources,

475
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: he didn't have any more hours in a day. But

476
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: what he did have was a completely different worldview. Yeah.

477
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a completely different attitude.

478
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Speaker 1: Now what frustrates me is he could have done that

479
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: twenty years earlier.

480
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: He didn't at that time in his worldview, have a

481
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: compelling reason to do that.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And isn't it funny that you would think living

483
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: long and healthy is not a compelling reason?

484
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: Yes?

485
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I think that's where this optimism advice

486
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: comes in. It's like, it probably wasn't in his reality

487
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: that that was going to happen. Everything okay, and then

488
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I mean it's a very common story. Yeah,

489
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: it's you know, they have the heart attack or they

490
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: get the big CEA and then all of a sudden,

491
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: it's like okay, I'll change.

492
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's the breakdown of your clients male slash female? Like?

493
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: What percentage? Is it mainly women?

494
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: It is mainly women?

495
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you reckon that? Like we were talking

496
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Speaker 1: about this recently, I don't know was I talking to

497
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: you about it? Tiff? About how many dudes? How many ladies?

498
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: Come to my things. Anyway.

499
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: I've talked about it, not recently.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the majority of like I did a gig last week, Yeah,

501
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: the weekend before lasting menygo open to the public, Ali

502
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: and eighty five percent of the people who came with ladies.

503
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: And I always asked this question, you know, put up

504
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: your hand if you're a bloke who's been dragged here

505
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: against your will. There's always a bunch of blokes because

506
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: you know there's a woman in their life going. You

507
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: need to listen to Craig Harper or whatever it is, right,

508
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: you need to get your shit together, you need to

509
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: come to this. And they don't want to be there,

510
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: and I feel bad. I feel bad for them. But

511
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: what's your theory either of you? But we'll start with you, Carly.

512
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: What's your theory around why perhaps ladies are more open

513
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: to personal growth for one of a better term?

514
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Gosh, I think that's a that's a tricky one because

515
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I don't I don't. I haven't sort of looked at

516
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: any research on this, but I know from men tend

517
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: to be and I kind of know if this is

518
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: the right thing to say, but really focused and busy

519
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: on work where women are more are nurturing, and you

520
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: know they might be. Yes, there are working women as well,

521
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: they tend to have a more nurturing kind of side

522
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: to them. And also I think women tend to when

523
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: you know, if they meet for a coffee, they're very,

524
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: very open that will talk about they will go through

525
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: the layers a bit and talk about personal stuff, where

526
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: the typical guy who's going to the hub, they'll talk

527
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: about the sport or kind of more top level stuff.

528
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: So and look, that's just my sort of subjective opinion there.

529
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's all we're about, I think. Correct me

530
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: if you think I'm wrong with either of you on this.

531
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: But I feel like, not always, but more often than

532
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: with women, a lot of men get a sense of

533
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: self and self worth and identity through their job, yeah,

534
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, and what they do, whereas you know, women

535
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: not so much. I mean, obviously, lots of women have

536
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: great jobs, and there's lots of powerful women in industry

537
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But I feel like men get

538
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: their confidence from you know, stuff more than and again

539
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: that could be this coming from a bloke by the way, So.

540
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: Yes, Tiff, yeah, I think relative to what both of

541
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 3: you said when you ask that question, I would say

542
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: women tend to get to a point where they go,

543
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm ready to fix or improve me, and men go,

544
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: I've got to fix this so and your stuff is

545
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: literally the U project. It's if you're ready to fix

546
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: your shit. And men kind of I feel like they

547
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: are fixers and doers, but they probably look outward not inward.

548
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get all the dudes in Australia

549
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: and just go, bro. It's like, you don't know how

550
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: liberating it is to go, I'm a fuck with and

551
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm the problem, not always, not in every instance, but

552
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm the problem here. I did the wrong thing. I'm scared.

553
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, try this with me all the men.

554
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Fucking hell that doesn't come out of

555
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: too many men's mouth. I fucked it up, you know.

556
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: And it's not about self loathing. And obviously sometimes I'm

557
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: not the problem, and sometimes I don't fuck up, but

558
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: there are lots of times when I am the problem.

559
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: I am the issue, or my habit is the issue,

560
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: and my thinking is the issue. And I think that

561
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, we're not trying to throw ourselves under the

562
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: bus or to to immerse ourselves in self loathing but

563
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: rather self awareness. And we can't work on the thing

564
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: that we won't acknowledge, you know, we can't improve the

565
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: thing that we won't own up to. And if you're

566
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: being a fuck with but pretending you're not, well, you're

567
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: still being a fuck with. It doesn't matter the rest

568
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: of us know, you know. And I just think that

569
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: when you do well, give yourself a pat on the back.

570
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: When you fuck up, go fucked up. I want to

571
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: do better, you know. For me that that has been

572
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: very liberating, you know, and also it's amazing. Not only

573
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: is it personally liberating, but to my complete surprise, it

574
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: actually builds much better rapport with an audience than the

575
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: other way.

576
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's interesting what you were saying about

577
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: the guys being dragged to your workshops, because you wonder

578
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: what happens after that, because I would say that that's

579
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: the first step, like they've actually come along. They haven't

580
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: said no, so there is a bit of coercion there,

581
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: But you don't know whether that has been just that

582
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: little drop of motivation, that's just all the seeds being planted,

583
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: and then they go away and make some sort of change.

584
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: But it's definitely. People don't like to be told what

585
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: to do. They like to believe what comes out of

586
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: their mouth, not out of somebody else's. And I think

587
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: that's where you know, when people are being told what

588
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: to do versus figuring it out themselves. And of course

589
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: that comes with the questioning really yes, and being able

590
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: to develop or increase that self awareness and have and

591
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: a bit of flexible thinking. Yes, a lot of the

592
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: time there's this fixed thinking and the blinkers are up

593
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: and they're not seeing the whole perspective of their life. Yes,

594
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: And it can be hard, It can be really hard

595
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: if somebody is really their habits of step set in

596
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: stone and they have got somebody going well if you

597
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: change this, you change this. That can even bring up fear,

598
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: that can bring up identity kind of issues, and if

599
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: they've been stuck in their ways for so long. So

600
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: there's so many nuances I think with that.

601
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: And we like to think we're open minded, but not

602
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: many of us are truly open minded. Because if you

603
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: really and I'm putting myself in the basket, like, knowing

604
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: about awareness or open mindedness or consciousness doesn't mean you're

605
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: open minded or aware or conscious, right, It's like I

606
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: under stand or I know about some things, but I

607
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: don't truly understand them. But I think you're right in

608
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that when we get our sense of identity from a

609
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: certain way of thinking, or a certain belief, or a

610
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: certain spiritual paradigm or whatever it is like, And it

611
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: could be CrossFit is the best way to train. If

612
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: you don't do CrossFit, you've got it wrong. It could

613
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: be being a vegan. If you eat meat, you're a

614
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: bad human. You're going to Karma is going to kick

615
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: you in the dick. Or it could be you know,

616
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: if you're not if you haven't accepted Jesus as your

617
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: Lord and savior, you're going to burn in an eternal

618
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: lake of fire. Right, there's so many And when you

619
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: believe whatever it is that you believe, and I've said

620
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: this too many times, but you truly believe that you

621
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: are right, then you automatically believe that everyone in the

622
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: world who disagrees with you is wrong right, And that's

623
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: a precarious stance. And also when you believe that you

624
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: are right about, absolutely, unequivocally right about something for which

625
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: you have no actual proof or evidence, then you know

626
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: and your identity is intertwined with that belief. Then now

627
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: you're pretty much unteachable. Yeah, yeah, you can't be taught

628
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: anything new because you know, and if I don't agree

629
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: with you, i'm wrong. So whereas I'm like, oh my god,

630
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm being wrong about so many things for decades, now

631
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm much more. I used to think I knew more

632
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties than I do now.

633
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely thought I knew not everything, but I

634
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: thought my knowledge was pretty vast. You know, by the

635
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: time I'd been working in the gym industry and training

636
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: people and talk about all the shit I took that

637
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: ten years in, I thought, yeah, I'm my knowledge is vast.

638
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: And now thirty years later, I'm like, fucking noll, I

639
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: don't know one percent of what there is to know.

640
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: And that's not me being falsely humble. I just know that.

641
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: It's oh my god. When I opened the PhD door,

642
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: I went, oh, okay, I'm an actual idiot, you know,

643
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Speaker 1: because I'm in a new space. I'm doing new things

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Speaker 1: with new people, I'm learning a new language, I'm reading

645
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Speaker 1: new things. I'm like, fuck ow and this is you know,

646
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Speaker 1: and I'm in the psychology space. Studying a drop of

647
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Speaker 1: water in an ocean of knowledge and an ocean of

648
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Speaker 1: research and an ocean of science. And I'm studying a

649
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: drop of water for five years. And you know, so

650
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Speaker 1: I come out being an expert in inverted commas asterisk

651
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Speaker 1: in that drop of water. And by the way, I'll

652
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Speaker 1: get surpassed ten minutes after I finished my PhD. You know.

653
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Speaker 1: But you've got to know that, and you've got to

654
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Speaker 1: be okay with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think people struggle with change when

656
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Speaker 2: they don't have the knowledge or they don't have the

657
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Speaker 2: interest as well. Yes, and they're so I think it

658
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Speaker 2: also is hard today because people are, well, we're so busy,

659
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Speaker 2: but we're also so distracted to like we anytime we

660
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Speaker 2: have space, we can be scrolling on social media or

661
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: watching the news or whatever. And so people think they

662
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: don't have time to change, They don't have time to exercise,

663
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Speaker 2: don't have time to think about the food. But actually

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Speaker 2: it's looking where their attention is going. Yes, So attention

665
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Speaker 2: is energy. It's like how you live your life is

666
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Speaker 2: what you're paying attention to. So if you're not paying

667
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Speaker 2: attention to the fact that your doctor is saying to

668
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Speaker 2: you that if you don't change your lifestyle, you're going

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Speaker 2: to end up with a heart attack. Can you just

670
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Speaker 2: walk out of the room and just start watching the news,

671
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Speaker 2: then then that's how you're going to live, and that's

672
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Speaker 2: the path that you're going to take. A lot of

673
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Speaker 2: this is about where your attention is.

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Speaker 1: Going, Yes it is, and where you're Like where your

675
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Speaker 1: attention is, you know, where your what your mind is

676
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Speaker 1: focused on, what you're you know, your emotion are there,

677
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Speaker 1: your body's there, you know, And yeah, that's so that's

678
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Speaker 1: such an interesting thing to think about, Like where my

679
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Speaker 1: mind is is where I am and I might physically

680
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Speaker 1: be in a situation, but in a way not even

681
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Speaker 1: there so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, And that kind of goes into that

683
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Speaker 2: passive living versus active living, and so many people are

684
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Speaker 2: living passively now and I think that that kind of

685
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Speaker 2: brings into the health as well. It's like it's when

686
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Speaker 2: you are living passively and you're not actively involved in

687
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Speaker 2: your life, you are more likely to be sententory. You're

688
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Speaker 2: more likely to be reaching for the easy, processed foods,

689
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Speaker 2: whereas if you can step back and go right, I'm

690
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Speaker 2: going to take control over my choices. Even if it's

691
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Speaker 2: a small step. Then that means that you start living

692
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Speaker 2: actively your life.

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Speaker 1: So go, I'm sorry, God, say.

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Speaker 2: There's a question I would ask if a client was

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Speaker 2: really struggling with motivation to change, even if they knew

696
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Speaker 2: they had to change, they just can't seem to do

697
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Speaker 2: the behaviors. I would ask them that question, which comes

698
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Speaker 2: from motivational interviewing, which is on a scale of one

699
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Speaker 2: to ten, how important is your health to you? Most

700
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Speaker 2: people are going to have a high number. Most people

701
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Speaker 2: are going to go, well, it's an eight. It is

702
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Speaker 2: important to me. And then the next question is, okay,

703
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Speaker 2: well why isn't it a two? Why isn't it at

704
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Speaker 2: eight and not a two? And that's when they give

705
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Speaker 2: their reasons. Yeah, I want to be around for my

706
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Speaker 2: kids or you know, I want to have energy. I

707
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Speaker 2: want to I want to to be able to just

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Speaker 2: go out and go for walks and feel good about it.

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Speaker 2: And so that if you ask those questions, and anyone can.

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Speaker 2: I you don't have to be a coach to ask

711
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Speaker 2: those questions. You can. You know, you can ask your

712
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Speaker 2: husband or your wife these questions, and it starts bringing

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Speaker 2: that awareness of why you need to change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. And it's like when you ask

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Speaker 1: those questions where we're really kind of trying to identify

716
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Speaker 1: what's important to us, like or what our values are,

717
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Speaker 1: and then you can say, okay, so based on that,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing that's not working? Yeah? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like if you could put your life up on

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Speaker 1: a hoist, like we put a car on a hoist

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Speaker 1: and just walk around and kick the metaphoric tires. You know,

722
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Speaker 1: how are things? How's it traveling? How's it running? As

723
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Speaker 1: the engine? How's the gearbox, how's the tires? How's it?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Because I think you know you actively,

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Speaker 1: I think you call it. I think we're on the

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Speaker 1: same page. I talk about unconscious versus conscious living, like

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are in a almost

728
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Speaker 1: like an unconscious auto pilot in terms of choices, behaviors, actions, reactions,

729
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Speaker 1: lifestyle habits. But if we if we hit the metaphoric

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Speaker 1: pause button and step back and say, what are the

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Speaker 1: things that I typically do and in terms of who

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Speaker 1: I want to be and how I want to be?

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Speaker 1: Are these things working? Yeah? You know, we can make

734
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Speaker 1: it more sciencey and complicated, but we all know, you know,

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Speaker 1: if we were all brutally honest. We could come up

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Speaker 1: with five things in probably thirty seconds that we're currently

737
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Speaker 1: doing that are kind of stupid. Yeah yeah, kind of

738
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Speaker 1: out of alignment with what we say is really important.

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Speaker 1: TIF do you need to jump out?

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Speaker 3: I've got to pay five five minutes?

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Speaker 1: All right? Yep, Carli. I just wanted to check in

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Speaker 1: with you. Oh yeah, Now do I remember correctly? I'm

743
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Speaker 1: sure I do that you're doing your masters.

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm doing my master's in counseling. That I've

745
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Speaker 2: had a bit of a break, a bit of a long.

746
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Speaker 1: Break, have you. Oh that's okay, it's been nice.

747
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Speaker 2: I go back in October, and my schedule now is

748
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Speaker 2: I'll be finished by next Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Awesome. So let's wind up. So people who feel

750
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Speaker 1: like maybe they're living out of alignment, and by that

751
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're doing stuff that really doesn't

752
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Speaker 1: work for them in terms of who and how they

753
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Speaker 1: want to be. I know there's no three step plan.

754
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: I know there's no set protocol. But where might we

755
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: start If someone's you know, what's one thing or two

756
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: things that we can do to create some momentum and

757
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Speaker 1: maybe lean into those changes.

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Speaker 2: I think if I mean asking that question I think

759
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Speaker 2: is a good place to start to start thinking about

760
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Speaker 2: what is important to you and really identifying that and

761
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Speaker 2: then looking at as you were saying, what are your

762
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: current behaviors and in act we call them towards moves

763
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: in a way moves, So are you doing things that

764
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Speaker 2: are taking you towards that person that you want to

765
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Speaker 2: be and the thing they are important to you? Or

766
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Speaker 2: are they taking you away? And having a you can

767
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: even write them down and then every day do like

768
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Speaker 2: we I mean, I'm a big fan of the ritual

769
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Speaker 2: board and having that visual where you can tick off

770
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: small rituals and start small, like if you're somebody who

771
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Speaker 2: has not exercised for years and the thought of even

772
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Speaker 2: just you know, going for a jog a small dog

773
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Speaker 2: just is just like no way, I'm not doing it,

774
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Speaker 2: and don't do that. It's like, let let's scale that

775
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: back and all you need to do is put your

776
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: trainers on, put your gear on, and that's all to

777
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: start with that, and then see what happens. And then

778
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Speaker 2: over time you put the gear on and then you

779
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Speaker 2: might walk to the corner, Well then you know you're

780
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Speaker 2: going to go further, so and it's just those small

781
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: steps that you can do that over time are going

782
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Speaker 2: to add up to big changes. And I'm such a

783
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Speaker 2: big fan of that because people underestimate, They over estimate

784
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: what they can do in a day, and underestimate what

785
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Speaker 2: they can do in a year. That's my attitude with

786
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Speaker 2: CrossFit with me is that I know that the weights

787
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm doing it are really light. Sometimes I don't even

788
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: have anyway on the bar, but I know if I

789
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Speaker 2: can be consistent and start small that this time next year,

790
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to see a real progression. So it's what

791
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: you do every single day. It doesn't matter how small

792
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: it is, that slowly, slowly you're going to see changes.

793
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Speaker 1: And how great is it that you will be a

794
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Speaker 1: year older. Chronologically on the calendar, you'll be a year older,

795
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: but you might be biologically one or two or three

796
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: years younger than you are right now? Yeah, I mean

797
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Speaker 1: that's fucking I love that shit. That's exciting, right yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think it helps. What's helped me too, is

799
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Speaker 2: to actually think about my future self. So think about me.

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Speaker 2: I've just turned fifty five the other week, so next

801
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Speaker 2: fifty six, what is my fifty six year old want

802
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Speaker 2: from me, Now, what do I need to do? If

803
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: they were going to say to me, color, I need

804
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: you to do this, I need you to stop doing this,

805
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: and I need you to start doing this. That's what

806
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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be nice to you, but oh

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Speaker 1: my god, you do not look tiffed. Be tell out,

809
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: be honest. She looks like my sister. I forgot that

810
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Speaker 1: you were that old. You're a fucking dinosaur. But the

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Speaker 1: good news is you look at least ten years younger

812
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Speaker 1: than you actually are.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I've just found it turning

817
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Speaker 2: fifty five. I just feel like the window is closing

818
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Speaker 2: for as far as improvements, and then it's going to

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Speaker 2: be maintenance. So that's why I'm quite motivated as well.

820
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Speaker 2: I've got a real why behind why. I'm really putting

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Speaker 2: a lot of effort into the exercise and the resistance

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Speaker 2: training because that's so important for bone density.

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Speaker 1: I've become obsessed in the last five year is about

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Speaker 1: improving my brain. You know, cognition, memory, you know, mental acuity, communication,

825
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Speaker 1: all of that brain based decision making, all of that

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Speaker 1: brain based stuff. It's hard to be objective because I'm me,

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Speaker 1: but as objective as I can be. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: I'm better than when I was forty five.

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Speaker 3: To ask you when you were going to get started.

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Speaker 1: That's hurtful, Carly. Tell everyone how they can find you,

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Speaker 1: connect with you, and pay you an obscene amount of

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Speaker 1: money to work with you.

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Speaker 2: So my website, Carlietaylor Coaching dot com dot au is

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Speaker 2: the best place.

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Speaker 1: You Just fill out the form, thank you your ace,

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Speaker 1: Well say goodbye affair, but for the minute, Tiviny and Cook.

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Speaker 1: What's your middle name?

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Speaker 2: Carli Paige p A I D e U.

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Speaker 1: Tiviny and Cook, Carli Page, Taylor, Craig Anthony Harpers signing

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Speaker 1: out you projectors. We appreciate you. Thanks ladies, Bye bye