Speaker 1: I'd like to begin by acknowledging the traditional custodians of
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Speaker 1: extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
Speaker 1: peoples today. Welcome to Stepping Up the podcast where we
Speaker 1: explore all things organization, mental health routines, personal.
Speaker 2: Development, motherhood and health.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Steph Pace, and I'm the woman behind
Speaker 1: Just Another Mummy blog and also the founder of Steph
Speaker 1: Pace Planners. But I can assure you this is not
Speaker 1: just another podcast online. I'm known for my organization tips
Speaker 1: and tricks and the occasional banter, but it definitely wasn't
Speaker 1: always this way. I used to be a hot mess
Speaker 1: and occasionally still am. And I'm here as your honest
Speaker 1: and real friend each week to show you how I
Speaker 1: turn my life of chaos into clarity.
Speaker 2: Between the house, health, kids.
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Speaker 1: streamline your daily routines forcial wellbeing, achieve your fitness goals,
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Speaker 1: into the best version of yourself, We've got you.
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Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Hello guys, and welcome back to Stepping Up. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to be officially back. If you guys didn't know,
Speaker 1: I have been a hit with influenze a and pneumonia
Speaker 1: for the last two and a half weeks, so I've
Speaker 1: spent the last three weekends stuck inside and I was
Speaker 1: going batshit crazy. And as you guys would have noticed,
Speaker 1: the last two episodes, we had to repurpose some old
Speaker 1: YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: So I just want to say thank you for hanging
Speaker 3: in there with me.
Speaker 1: I know you guys absolutely loved the last two episodes,
Speaker 1: but for me, I just felt like I was cheating
Speaker 1: a little bit. But we're all about working smarter and
Speaker 1: not harder, especially when you are stuck in bed and
Speaker 1: I can tell you, guys, it was literally not a
Speaker 1: fun time. You guys know, I cannot sit still for
Speaker 1: the life of me, which kind of makes it funny
Speaker 1: that I'm recording today's episode, and this is an episode
Speaker 1: on my ADHD medication journey. And this is something again,
Speaker 1: you guys have been asking for for so long, especially
Speaker 1: since I recorded my ADHD Journey episode, which I will
Speaker 1: link in the show notes below because it is a
Speaker 1: long one and it's something I knew.
Speaker 3: I had from childhood, which is pretty rare.
Speaker 1: But over the last eight months, I've been on a
Speaker 1: journey of trying to find the right medication for me.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I know I don't have to say this because we're
Speaker 1: all a bunch of smart cookies who are listening, but
Speaker 1: I have to anyway, As you.
Speaker 3: Guys know, I'm not a doctor. I'm far from it.
Speaker 1: And I'm definitely not saying if you have ADHD that
Speaker 1: you need to go on medications. You need to listen
Speaker 1: to anything that I'm saying, because this is just my journey,
Speaker 1: and I guess like my experience so far now, just
Speaker 1: like many of us, the rise of TikTok is something
Speaker 1: that made me really jump onto managing my ADHD symptoms,
Speaker 1: and to be completely honest, I spoke about in my
Speaker 1: ADHD Journey episode. I was diagnosed with eight D as
Speaker 1: a kid, so I was in KINDI when I was diagnosed,
Speaker 1: And back then, there was a huge stigma that if
Speaker 1: you're on the spectrum you have ADHD, ADD anything at all,
Speaker 1: that you were stupid. And we know that's not the case,
Speaker 1: but that was something that I did carry and I
Speaker 1: didn't realize I carried that all up until recently, until
Speaker 1: the rise of TikTok and ADHD became something that was
Speaker 1: really spoken about on there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people who are always
Speaker 1: thinking there's like there's trends and fads with these types
Speaker 1: of things, but you need to remember that it's only
Speaker 1: been recently that people realize how ADHD and ADD affect women. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to quickly just give you a run through
Speaker 1: about the difference between ADD and ADHD. So they pretty
Speaker 1: much just call it ADHD now, But there's two types.
Speaker 1: There's a hyperactive type and then there's the inattentive type.
Speaker 1: Now I've got the combined, so I've got both the
Speaker 1: best of both worlds. Is Miley would say, so I
Speaker 1: struggle with paying attention if I don't find something interesting
Speaker 1: for me to start that it's like pulling teeth. And
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. I can't explain to you how
Speaker 1: hard it is to physically bring myself to do a
Speaker 1: simple task and the amount of anxiety that builds up
Speaker 1: over starting a small task. It can be something like
Speaker 1: washing for me a lot of the time. It can
Speaker 1: be an email that has to use a little bit
Speaker 1: more brain power than normal. It is those mundane tasks
Speaker 1: that need to be done and that they're important, But
Speaker 1: I can't explain to you how painful it is.
Speaker 3: Like physically it actually started.
Speaker 1: And I know people out there listening right now that
Speaker 1: have ADHD your thing they do, they can really relate
Speaker 1: to this because it's not just like us having a
Speaker 1: little easy fit.
Speaker 3: It is a whole other level.
Speaker 1: It's an actual the way the chemicals in our brains
Speaker 1: work and how I think it's our frontal lobe has
Speaker 1: been made.
Speaker 3: It is different than other people.
Speaker 1: So is executive function for other people, like being able
Speaker 1: to write back to text messages, remember things not bit late,
Speaker 1: being able to estimate time correctly, memory all that stuff
Speaker 1: is normal. To them, but for us it is really hard.
Speaker 1: I guess one of the tipping points for me was
Speaker 1: especially my memory between having a business, the kids and everything.
Speaker 1: It was actually getting to a point where I was
Speaker 1: afraid it was affecting my relationship with my staff because
Speaker 1: I literally would forget what they have told me and
Speaker 1: it was creating issues within the business anyway. So started
Speaker 1: watching TikTok decided, okay, I want to get you know,
Speaker 1: obviously my diagnosis as a kid is old, so I
Speaker 1: had to get an updated one. And so if you're
Speaker 1: listening right now and you're like, I need to see
Speaker 1: if I have ADHD, my other podcast episode about this,
Speaker 1: I actually talk about the process so about getting a
Speaker 1: referral who you got to go to. So if you
Speaker 1: listen to that, I'll link it again below. But that's
Speaker 1: what really drove me to go and get rediagnosed as
Speaker 1: an adult and that came back with combined ADHD, so
Speaker 1: inattentive and hyperactivity. And the one thing that people have
Speaker 1: learned now also with women with the ADHD hyperactivity part,
Speaker 1: is we don't tend to show up in the same
Speaker 1: way as men. We tend to be hyperactive in our
Speaker 1: brain is in overdrive and.
Speaker 3: This whole time.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been medicated for my anxiety for over
Speaker 1: a decade. Now, I'm on any anxiety meds, any depressants,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. So, because my doctor
Speaker 1: had always been trying to treat my anxiety and not
Speaker 1: necessarily the ADHD that was causing the anxiety, because the
Speaker 1: racing thoughts, the forgetfulness, the anxiety that is attached to
Speaker 1: doing everyday tasks and the million thoughts in my head,
Speaker 1: that's what caused the anxiety. So we were trying to
Speaker 1: treat the symptom of ADHHD and not the cause of
Speaker 1: the anxiety, if that makes sense. So for me to
Speaker 1: effectively treat my anxiety, I need to be treating the
Speaker 1: ADHD itself. And one of my team members, Sarah, who
Speaker 1: worked for me her son had been diagnosed and just
Speaker 1: hearing about his struggles and seeing the profound change medication
Speaker 1: made for him, which was something that wasn't taken lightly
Speaker 1: for their family, Like, you're not going to pop anyone
Speaker 1: on medication unless you need it, unless it's affecting them.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is living with ADHD. It affects
Speaker 1: every facet.
Speaker 3: Of your life.
Speaker 1: For me, it affects my relationship with Ryan. When I'm
Speaker 1: overstimulated and he wants affection, I can't have him touching me,
Speaker 1: and it's heartbreaking, but I'm just so overstimulated. I can't
Speaker 1: have anyone on me, like I feel like I'm being suffocated.
Speaker 1: And then you know that's exhuberated by getting emails and
Speaker 1: messages and everything to do with work, that it really
Speaker 1: does affect my relationship with him, and you know, he's right,
Speaker 1: and he's a male and they want physical touch and
Speaker 1: even with my own kids, and it kills me. But
Speaker 1: in the afternoons, I can't explain to you the panic
Speaker 1: and the pure like anxiety I get from them screaming,
Speaker 1: and then like Ryan's trying to talk to me and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do dinner, Like it's just so much
Speaker 1: stimulation for one person that I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: do this anymore. This is affecting my life, and I
Speaker 1: felt like it was getting worse, and especially around my period,
Speaker 1: which my psychiatrists really validated me on saying those who
Speaker 1: have ad H sheet are generally more likely to have PMDD,
Speaker 1: which is really intensified symptoms of like PMS basically.
Speaker 3: And it is so hard.
Speaker 1: The week before my period, I cannot describe to you
Speaker 1: how low I am and how much harder is just
Speaker 1: to do everyday things. And I think this is a
Speaker 1: really important conversation, especially with social media and you guys
Speaker 1: see me doing organization and planning, and I do this
Speaker 1: because I can't cope without it. But anyways, basically what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, after seeing Sarah and her son going
Speaker 1: through their journey with medication and how much it helped him,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to go get rediagnosed, which
Speaker 1: I did, and then start the process of medication. Now
Speaker 1: with ADHD medication, it's not a decision you just want
Speaker 1: to decide on overnight. There is two types of medication,
Speaker 1: so there's stimulant medication and then non stimulant medication. Basically,
Speaker 1: the stimulant medication works by increasing certain neurotransmitters in the
Speaker 1: brain and that will help us be able to focus
Speaker 1: and to concentrate and things. With stimulant medication is obviously
Speaker 1: they're a lot more harsher than something that is a
Speaker 1: non stimulant medication, which you can also have for ADHD.
Speaker 3: So some stimulu.
Speaker 1: Medications you might have heard if you're on TikTok and
Speaker 1: things are things like five ance, Riddlin, dex, and phetamine.
Speaker 3: There's other ones but I can't remember right now.
Speaker 1: Now, before I run through the pros and cons to
Speaker 1: stimulant medication, which is what I'm going to focus on first,
Speaker 1: because that's where i started, I'm going to, I guess,
Speaker 1: explain my experience with it. So for me, I had
Speaker 1: my appointment with my psychiatrists and he's like, yep, So
Speaker 1: we decided to pop me on Riddlin. There's two types
Speaker 1: of stimulant medication. You can get long acting and short acting.
Speaker 1: So long acting usually will last all day, ten to
Speaker 1: fourteen hours. Again I'm not a doctor, That's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: And then you got your short acting, which can last
Speaker 1: from like two to four hours. So we popped me
Speaker 1: on Riddlin and we went on short acting because my
Speaker 1: days are very different. Some days I'm working ridiculous hours.
Speaker 1: Some days I might do more like light work in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, and I don't want to take stimulant medication.
Speaker 1: And he basically said the pros with short acting is
Speaker 1: I can kind of taper it to my day. So,
Speaker 1: for example, I would wake up, have a dose, have
Speaker 1: another dose at lunch, and then maybe missed the third dose.
Speaker 3: Some people don't even have three.
Speaker 1: So I started off with Riddlin and can I just
Speaker 1: tell you when I took it and it kicked in,
Speaker 1: which was pretty quick because it's short acting, it doesn't
Speaker 1: take long to kick in. I cried because for the
Speaker 1: first time in my entire life, my brain was quiet.
Speaker 1: It was quiet, And my biggest thing is all the thoughts.
Speaker 1: My thoughts are just so intense. It makes doing even
Speaker 1: things like podcast. Guys like for me to do a podcast,
Speaker 1: even for this, and I'm still on medication now, it
Speaker 1: still takes me time to kind of try and calm
Speaker 1: myself because I'm always overthinking everything like.
Speaker 2: Is this good?
Speaker 3: Is that good?
Speaker 1: And just the utter quiet I felt for the first
Speaker 1: time in my whole life, And I.
Speaker 3: Cried because I was like, is this how everybody else feels?
Speaker 3: And this whole time?
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's just it's very confronting because you're just like,
Speaker 1: you don't realize how different your brain is to other
Speaker 1: people until you've experienced that firsthand of having quiet and
Speaker 1: being able to actually focus on one thought at a time.
Speaker 1: And I can't explain to you the relief that I felt.
Speaker 1: And I was like, why did I wait for so
Speaker 1: long to do this? And I was someone who was
Speaker 1: very much so like, I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: medication forever. I'm going to try and do a more
Speaker 1: like natural route. I want to like, you know, obviously exercise.
Speaker 1: Even my psychiatrist said exercise is one of the best
Speaker 1: things for ADHD and hand on heart. I can agree
Speaker 1: with that, but I just was like, why did I
Speaker 1: wait so long? And at first, you know, first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, it was incredible. I was able just to
Speaker 1: do things. I didn't overthink everything. For me, I do
Speaker 1: struggle to like not butt in in conversations, not because
Speaker 1: I'm being rude, but because I'm always scared I'm going
Speaker 1: to forget what I'm going to say and I get excited.
Speaker 1: So if someone says something and I relate to them,
Speaker 1: I tend to accidentally like butt in and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: me too. And it's not me trying to be selfish
Speaker 1: and talk about myself.
Speaker 3: And apparently that's a normal thing for people with ADHD
Speaker 3: because that's how we relate to people.
Speaker 1: And with the riddle and the biggest pros were focus, attention,
Speaker 1: the quiet in my brain, being able to be around
Speaker 1: the kids in the afternoons and not feel like I
Speaker 1: was like jump out of my own skin. But there
Speaker 1: are cons and I found the cons popped up the
Speaker 1: longer I was on it, because at first you're in
Speaker 1: this new world of being able to focus and everything's quiet,
Speaker 1: and you're like loving it, and then you start to
Speaker 1: realize some other things popping up. So with all stimulant medications,
Speaker 1: there can be some mood irritability, so you can get
Speaker 1: quite irritated with people, you can get angry, and I
Speaker 1: did start getting quite angry, which I'm not an angry person,
Speaker 1: so things that wouldn't normally make me angry were starting
Speaker 1: to make me angry. With time, decreased appetite, which is
Speaker 1: a big one, especially with me with my workload. I
Speaker 1: would find because I was in such a good focus,
Speaker 1: I would work more than what I was before, because
Speaker 1: normally your body's naturally telling you, okay, it's time to rest.
Speaker 1: But because I had all this focus and this attention
Speaker 1: span for the first time, I was just smashing it,
Speaker 1: and I was smashing myself, and after a while that
Speaker 1: led me to burn out. Earlier, like actual burnout because
Speaker 1: I was working twelve fourteen sixty hour days because I could,
Speaker 1: you know, around the kids and things. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's obviously the food part when you're not eating regularly
Speaker 1: because you now don't have the hunger cues. That's not
Speaker 1: good and that's not gonna help me mood either. It's
Speaker 1: also insomnia, so I did get a bit of that,
Speaker 1: and then there's also something called emotional blunting, which I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about in a minute. And then the
Speaker 1: biggest con that kind of made me change from ritalin
Speaker 1: was the up and downs because it's short acting at
Speaker 1: last two to four hours. For me, usually only would
Speaker 1: last two and a half hours, so I felt very
Speaker 1: much up and down all day. So I'd feel like yep, good, focus, yep,
Speaker 1: and then start to feel a bit shitty and go
Speaker 1: back down and then have another dose, go back up,
Speaker 1: and then go back down. And I was up and
Speaker 1: down all day and I didn't really like that. Spoke
Speaker 1: to my psychiatrists and he put me on Vibance. Now,
Speaker 1: Vivance is a long acting stimulant, so that meant I
Speaker 1: could just take it once and it should last me
Speaker 1: the whole day now viabance. I loved first Love Love Love.
Speaker 1: It was smoother. I didn't feel up and down. I
Speaker 1: felt my focus was tenfold on this, so so I
Speaker 1: was really focused, like I could just keep going forever.
Speaker 3: So tasks for me to create.
Speaker 1: A YouTube thumbnail, which should only take me max an hour,
Speaker 1: I would spending four hours on that because the time
Speaker 1: would just pass and I didn't even realize and I
Speaker 1: was so focused. I was wasting all this time on
Speaker 1: tasks and being so pedantic about it because it can
Speaker 1: really bring out that perfectionism in you, and you've got
Speaker 1: this new superpower of focus. And it wasn't really like
Speaker 1: working for me very well. It's all well and good
Speaker 1: about a focus, but if you're spending like bloody all
Speaker 1: day sending one email or cleaning the couch, like, it's.
Speaker 3: Not really good. It's not very productive.
Speaker 2: And I loved that.
Speaker 3: I wasn't up and down anymore.
Speaker 1: But after the first three weeks, I noticed I was
Speaker 1: a robot, no personality, and that was the same one riddle,
Speaker 1: and I realized I stopped because I'm actually a very
Speaker 1: silly person.
Speaker 3: I muck around too much. I joke, I laugh a lot.
Speaker 1: I laugh at myself, and then I started realizing, hey,
Speaker 1: I haven't really laughed for a while, like I've stopped
Speaker 1: being silly because I was always scared because you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people with ADHD like we're very creative,
Speaker 1: and I was scared the medication was going to stop
Speaker 1: me being creative and I need that for my job
Speaker 1: as well. And it didn't stop me being creative, but
Speaker 1: I stopped kind of having emotion. I was a robot.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel as much like I'm the biggest m path.
Speaker 1: When I went to the hospital the other week from
Speaker 1: my pneumonia and I saw this teenage boy who fell
Speaker 1: to the ground head a siege, I was crying because
Speaker 1: I actually was off my medication at that time, but
Speaker 1: I was crying and I just feel so deeply, and
Speaker 1: I realized I felt not really anything.
Speaker 3: And you know, I did have.
Speaker 1: A high dose for vivants because again I must metabolize
Speaker 1: it quick because just after lunch I would need a
Speaker 1: top up. And then I spoke to my psychiatrist. And
Speaker 1: that's called emotional blunting. Even seeing my kids playing usually
Speaker 1: would feel this spark of joy and happiness, and I
Speaker 1: was feeling nothing. And it was actually very scary because
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this what serial killers feel like? Just
Speaker 1: have no emotion, you know? And I was even getting
Speaker 1: really depressed. I was starting to get very, very depressed.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if again, if it's because of
Speaker 1: the emotional blunting, because I could work forever. So I
Speaker 1: recently went off that one. Now I'm back on short
Speaker 1: acting again because it's just one of those things guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm not here to make you feel like it's
Speaker 1: not going to work for you.
Speaker 3: And I still feel like it's changed my life.
Speaker 1: So now I'm on dex amphetamine and it's just the
Speaker 1: short acting, but I feel like it makes me fee
Speaker 1: less up and down. Then the riddle and short acting,
Speaker 1: and that's what I was using to top up with
Speaker 1: vibe ants.
Speaker 3: But I feel like with the decks, I just call
Speaker 3: it decks.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make me feel as robotic and I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to figure out my way. What was good, though,
Speaker 1: I do have to say is that when I did
Speaker 1: get sick, I completely went off of them because I
Speaker 1: was on them every single day for eight months, even
Speaker 1: on the weekends, and I kind of told myself, no,
Speaker 1: I'm only going to take them when I need them,
Speaker 1: but I did grow dependent on them, and that can
Speaker 1: be a con as well with the stimulants, because you
Speaker 1: love the feeling of being able to do the things
Speaker 1: and have focus and all that stuff, but it can
Speaker 1: have the con of you can become dependent on some
Speaker 1: of them. Now my plans for the future. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to just continue and see how I go.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling much better, but I do miss being silly
Speaker 1: stuph I don't even know if you guys can tell,
Speaker 1: maybe even in this very start of the podcast, like
Speaker 1: till now, sometimes I'm like, do I sound like myself?
Speaker 3: Am I robot?
Speaker 1: Do I sound flat? I don't know, It's just and
Speaker 1: then I overthink it like I am right now. But
Speaker 1: I guess to tell you. The non stimulant medication basically,
Speaker 1: they can also be any depressant and any anxiety. So
Speaker 1: the non stimulant also target neurotransmitters, but they work differently
Speaker 1: than stimulants and they can take longer to come into effect.
Speaker 1: So I'm just reading from something. So instead of directly
Speaker 1: increasing dogamine and other neurotransmitter levels, the non stimulants, they
Speaker 1: may enhance the availability of these neurotransmitters over a long
Speaker 1: period of time and that influences the attention and behavior.
Speaker 1: So they can also be prescribed with stimulant medication, which
Speaker 1: is what I'm on too. So I'm also on a
Speaker 1: non stimulant medication three times a day and that helps
Speaker 1: with the anxiety. And obviously you are cons in terms
Speaker 1: of things like appetite, but it depends on you and
Speaker 1: how you react to each medication. If you're on a
Speaker 1: stimulant medication, you should not be having coffee. You need
Speaker 1: to be making sure you're smashing like protein and all
Speaker 1: those types of things. Cause it happened with me a
Speaker 1: lot with vibance. It made my anxiety higher, and it
Speaker 1: kind of like feels like you're defeating the purpose. It
Speaker 1: really does feel like a double edged sword with a
Speaker 1: lot of them. But I know so many people who
Speaker 1: have been on them and they're like, changed my life,
Speaker 1: and I agree, it has changed my life for me
Speaker 1: in the long term. If I can't find anything that
Speaker 1: makes me feel like Steph and maybe I need to
Speaker 1: come up with something where I'm just taking it for work,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But all I can say is when
Speaker 1: I had a break when I was sick, the overwhelming
Speaker 1: thoughts and the anxiety came straight back when I wasn't
Speaker 1: on it, and I realized why I need them so much.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the future holds for me.
Speaker 1: I would love to look into obviously, natural supplements and
Speaker 1: other things that can help, like exercise, which really helps me.
Speaker 1: But I feel like for me in this period of
Speaker 1: my life, until I can, I guess get a hold
Speaker 1: of work and all the things. Maybe I'll be on
Speaker 1: them forever. Maybe I'll just be on them for a while,
Speaker 1: because life's too short to be at war with your
Speaker 1: own brain. I think having these conversations openly with people
Speaker 1: about our medication. Again, I know it can be controversial,
Speaker 1: and as I said before, you take this with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt. Some people love vibance. Some people do
Speaker 1: not want any stimulant medications. Some people just gone non
Speaker 1: stimulant and it's amazing for them. But yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things. So I really do hope this episode
Speaker 1: helped you guys. I hope it made a bit of
Speaker 1: sense on how everything works. Again, please do your research,
Speaker 1: talk to your doctor if you're in the process of
Speaker 1: getting a diagnosis hanging there.
Speaker 3: I know it takes time for me.
Speaker 1: Look, since my rediagnosis, it's been over a year and
Speaker 1: it just takes time, but you.
Speaker 3: Know you are worth it and it is worth working towards.
Speaker 1: Whether that is going to a psychologist to work on
Speaker 1: behavioral therapies, which is what I'm doing next, well, working
Speaker 1: with medications or working with supplements. There's just so many
Speaker 1: things you can do, and I just want you to
Speaker 1: know you're not alone and I'm on this journey with you,
Speaker 1: and if you have any questions, please shoot them through.
Speaker 1: I can definitely do some follow up episodes and I'm
Speaker 1: actually going to be getting a think psychologist on ADHD
Speaker 1: on the show very soon. I'm excited to get a
Speaker 1: lot more like guests on the show, which will be awesome.
Speaker 3: So I love you guys as always, Please do subscribe.
Speaker 1: This is independently run and I do it just because
Speaker 1: I love you and I want tonect with you and
Speaker 1: it really helps me to be able to keep continuing
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: And I'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 1: Bye. Thank you guys so much for tuning in today's
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