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<v Speaker 1>Apogae Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I

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<v Speaker 1>A Bad Mom? Podcast? Or on Instagram too. Please feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to send us.

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<v Speaker 2>Your memes Instagram at am I A Bad Mom? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you see them all go up all at once because

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of am hit and miss on Instagram at

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<v Speaker 2>different times.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know it's nearly school holidays?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just thinking that then, Yeah, it's nearly

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<v Speaker 2>school holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone said that to me this morning. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we've literally just had the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think that your girls are nearly going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on holidays right. We are in the changeover of

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<v Speaker 2>term three to term four. This is the official countdown.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when people start coming up to you and go,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, only like twelve weeks still Christmas, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, shut up, I haven't even thought about presents yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love Christmas, but I definitely haven't planned for

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<v Speaker 1>the expense of it. Again, remember that one year you

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<v Speaker 1>did lay by. Remember that you were so planned. You

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<v Speaker 1>did it all in like June July, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>came bit by bit, you paid it off bit by bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and you took it to the ladies at the charity

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<v Speaker 1>and the shopping center and wrapped it all there you

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<v Speaker 1>were sat with a Champagne Christmas sing was once done.

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<v Speaker 3>I nailed it once.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Target and Big w I did

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<v Speaker 2>their mid year toy sales extravaganza. I think that they

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<v Speaker 2>call it, which is like forty to fifty percent off

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<v Speaker 2>and then just lay by it. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, because I did. I've got some mighty fine bargains.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering whether I mentioned this last year. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it be great? This was after I saw like

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<v Speaker 1>from the boxing Dale sort of January sales and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw everything go on sale that I would read all

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<v Speaker 1>and it really annoys me. I remember saying, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>next year just we don't buy Christmas and then we

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<v Speaker 1>all have an amount of money we can go and

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<v Speaker 1>spend in the sales. It takes the fun out of

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<v Speaker 1>the actual Christmas Day stuff. But I'm wondering whether my

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<v Speaker 1>kids are now at the age where I could just

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<v Speaker 1>give them money, like wrap it up in a box

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<v Speaker 1>or something, make it look pretty and just go here, go,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a Westfield gift card or whatever. Yeah, look yourself out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're buying.

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<v Speaker 2>It all in sale. Yeah, I like that idea, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially the older that they get is better because we

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<v Speaker 2>sort of lose track of.

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<v Speaker 1>What they want to choose their own stuffy because they

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<v Speaker 1>anyway I can buy my kids close even stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I look back on, Rachel. I've got some like little

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<v Speaker 1>mini skirts and stuff that you know, I wore back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, and I'm like, that's really nice, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that would I'm too old for it now, but that

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<v Speaker 1>would look really cute on you. And they literally look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, and I reckon if one of their friends

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<v Speaker 1>had the exact same thing and said would you like this?

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<v Speaker 1>They go, yeah, I love it, but literally because it

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<v Speaker 1>was owned by me, they want to do with a

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting gross I wouldn't seem dead in that from like

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. It's like a social suicide.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I a bad mom for party on a phobia?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but it's a phobia actually is a

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<v Speaker 3>phobia fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely something that proves like that moment of like oh

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<v Speaker 2>I really can't cope when that happens. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it a little bit more as your sort

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<v Speaker 2>of kids get older and you can see sort of

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<v Speaker 2>certain patterns start to happen or conversations you might have

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<v Speaker 2>with them. And I have always had the wonderful add

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<v Speaker 2>on of when I was a kid, and I only

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<v Speaker 2>started like when I was probably Gracie's age now. If

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<v Speaker 2>we took long car trips, I was always that kid

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<v Speaker 2>in the back with the bucket it because I got

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<v Speaker 2>really bad cast sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you get seasick too.

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<v Speaker 3>I get se sick, so do I.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember the time and I saw it on

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<v Speaker 1>your Instagram and the pictures look beautiful. You stayed on

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful boat. You slept on the boat for a

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<v Speaker 1>few days, and I remember seeing the highlights real being like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that looks so beautiful. What a lovely trip,

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<v Speaker 1>she said. And then you were like, I literally you

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<v Speaker 1>went to shore one day and you wanted to cry

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<v Speaker 1>at the thought of getting back on the boat because

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<v Speaker 1>she felt so sick. I was like, oh, that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Worst some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, and it was really interesting, actually, now

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<v Speaker 2>that you bring me back to that is like, say,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, on that particular trip, the child of mine

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<v Speaker 2>that was right next to me and just feeling it

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<v Speaker 2>so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Was else so same scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, we're both very much land animals.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way that that boat was broken up was

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<v Speaker 2>that two of us had to sleep on the top

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<v Speaker 2>deck and the chop deck had more windows and it

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<v Speaker 2>was more open that I felt way better there.

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<v Speaker 3>Than down below and tucked in. Yeah, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that they say.

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<v Speaker 2>The shop is going to be rockier and all the rest,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't like the idea that I was down

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom, which is so weird when I think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I flew on an aircraft for a living for

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<v Speaker 2>three years, and where you sleep on that bad Boy

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<v Speaker 2>is tucked right down the bottom of the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's different. I get what you mean, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've never felt sick on an airplane ever, doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>how much tablence there is, I've never felt like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But on a boat, I'm exactly the same. In the

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<v Speaker 1>thought of being down underground. Jay and the girls have

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<v Speaker 1>gone on and on at me for years about going

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<v Speaker 1>on a cruise. I'm like, I can't see because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't cope with being stuck somewhere and not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to get off, and phebe, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that's probably a little bit to do with mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like that idea, like people come to you and

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<v Speaker 2>go cruisers and cruisers and when we love it, we

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<v Speaker 2>just get there and we unpack ones and we do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can understand and see why people would love it,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can see from a holiday perspective why you

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<v Speaker 2>would love it. But the idea of putting me on

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<v Speaker 2>a boat for two weeks and I'm stuck on that

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<v Speaker 2>boat for two weeks would not go. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>where you could put me on the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 2>boat or the top of the boat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like with cruise ships, like we've really digressed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like with cruise ships they've come with

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<v Speaker 1>a bad rap. Yeah literally, you only ever see a

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<v Speaker 1>cruise ship on the news when it's coming and they've

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<v Speaker 1>all got gastro with.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of digress, But it's still around the theme of

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<v Speaker 2>I as a kid, I remember if the power went out,

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<v Speaker 2>I would vomit. If there was something pretty bad like

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<v Speaker 2>go down, my first thing that goes is my tummy.

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<v Speaker 3>I vomit.

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<v Speaker 2>I then started getting car sickness vomit, and so this

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<v Speaker 2>fear I think came from obviously being younger, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time it carried over Now I was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hoping out of my two kids, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>not that, because it makes it hard, right, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>am a head case when gastro is going through your household,

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<v Speaker 2>it brings me unstuck. But Gracie is taking on little

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<v Speaker 2>tendencies of having like even when she talks about it,

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<v Speaker 2>she gets really like and I thought, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>out of everything I could have passed down, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to have that part. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like especially getting older hormones, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>heightened things for young girls.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Hoping that maybe it would just be like a short

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<v Speaker 2>stint and then it will sort of pass.

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<v Speaker 3>But Gracie is like the world is ending and she's

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<v Speaker 3>throwing herself on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, no matter how hard you try to

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<v Speaker 1>not put on certain phobias to your kids, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>inside that it just happens. Anyway. I've always been a

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<v Speaker 1>bit OCD in my life, but I've actively tried to

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<v Speaker 1>not say anything around my kids and tried to not

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<v Speaker 1>be super so they're not aware of it. But merely

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely the same. And I look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff she does and I'm like, that's exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same as what I do, but she's never seen me

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there is something in genetics, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like nature versus nurture or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, because if you're not actively doing it, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's going back to like what you know, what we

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<v Speaker 2>always talk about, which is like actions speak louder than words.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not physically saying it, but maybe your actions are

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<v Speaker 2>displaying it without you knowing it subconsciously, right, Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>when we start to do things, and when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to patterning and behaviors, we are doing it sometimes without

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<v Speaker 2>subconsciously knowing what we're doing, and they're always watching. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it comes from as well. My whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>with vomiting and stuff like that. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that she's actively like you know, being around or

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it. I have no idea, but this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things that I don't have too many, like

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<v Speaker 2>extreme fears or phobias. Cane toads, Okay, cane toads is

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<v Speaker 2>another one of mine. Yeah, just I think growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in North Queensland just put something in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>my brain that if it starts to jump or move around,

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<v Speaker 2>I am on this, like I am where It's like

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<v Speaker 2>if a snake goes past, I'm like, oh look, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like, oh, I might stand back here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like shit or a.

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<v Speaker 1>Spider, even though like the snake would kill you, but

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<v Speaker 1>the cane toad isn't. And those cane toads don't even

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<v Speaker 1>like they're so dumb. They don't even get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can. Don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not fast enough to move. I don't if you

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<v Speaker 1>stepped on one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have stepped on one many times, because in North

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland you can not walk across grass without either kicking

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<v Speaker 2>one or stepping on it or having it jump right

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<v Speaker 2>across your feet kind of thing. Because there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And when we were out there, you'd hear

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<v Speaker 2>all the things like people, oh, they're a pest.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>This was very far North Queensland, because they are truly

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<v Speaker 2>a pest up there, because they live in the cane

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<v Speaker 2>fields whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're a pest and so people used to do awful,

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<v Speaker 3>awful things to get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most traumatic scenes of one of my

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<v Speaker 2>childhood with a cane toad was so much chucked it.

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<v Speaker 3>On the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it blew and I was just like, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the most traumatic moments. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, because I don't like them, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to hurt them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's cruel, that's horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>That was Grade seven.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're gonna bring cane toads back to parenting and children,

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<v Speaker 1>I just was thinking to myself, you said cane toads

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<v Speaker 1>are a pest. Yes, cane toads are a pest. They're

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<v Speaker 1>an introduced pest. We introduced that pest to Queensland, just

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<v Speaker 1>like kids introduced pests.