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Speaker 1: Do you know it's nearly school holidays?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking that then, Yeah, it's nearly
Speaker 2: school holiday.
Speaker 1: Someone said that to me this morning. I was like,
Speaker 1: we've literally just had the holidays.
Speaker 2: I actually think that your girls are nearly going to
Speaker 2: be on holidays right. We are in the changeover of
Speaker 2: term three to term four. This is the official countdown.
Speaker 2: This is when people start coming up to you and go,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, only like twelve weeks still Christmas, and
Speaker 2: you're like, shut up, I haven't even thought about presents yet.
Speaker 1: I do love Christmas, but I definitely haven't planned for
Speaker 1: the expense of it. Again, remember that one year you
Speaker 1: did lay by. Remember that you were so planned. You
Speaker 1: did it all in like June July, and then it
Speaker 1: came bit by bit, you paid it off bit by bit,
Speaker 1: and you took it to the ladies at the charity
Speaker 1: and the shopping center and wrapped it all there you
Speaker 1: were sat with a Champagne Christmas sing was once done.
Speaker 3: I nailed it once.
Speaker 2: I think it was Target and Big w I did
Speaker 2: their mid year toy sales extravaganza. I think that they
Speaker 2: call it, which is like forty to fifty percent off
Speaker 2: and then just lay by it. And I was like,
Speaker 2: that's great, because I did. I've got some mighty fine bargains.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering whether I mentioned this last year. I was like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great? This was after I saw like
Speaker 1: from the boxing Dale sort of January sales and I
Speaker 1: saw everything go on sale that I would read all
Speaker 1: and it really annoys me. I remember saying, why don't
Speaker 1: next year just we don't buy Christmas and then we
Speaker 1: all have an amount of money we can go and
Speaker 1: spend in the sales. It takes the fun out of
Speaker 1: the actual Christmas Day stuff. But I'm wondering whether my
Speaker 1: kids are now at the age where I could just
Speaker 1: give them money, like wrap it up in a box
Speaker 1: or something, make it look pretty and just go here, go,
Speaker 1: here's a Westfield gift card or whatever. Yeah, look yourself out,
Speaker 1: and then you're buying.
Speaker 2: It all in sale. Yeah, I like that idea, and
Speaker 2: especially the older that they get is better because we
Speaker 2: sort of lose track of.
Speaker 1: What they want to choose their own stuffy because they
Speaker 1: anyway I can buy my kids close even stuff that
Speaker 1: I look back on, Rachel. I've got some like little
Speaker 1: mini skirts and stuff that you know, I wore back
Speaker 1: in the day, and I'm like, that's really nice, Like
Speaker 1: that would I'm too old for it now, but that
Speaker 1: would look really cute on you. And they literally look
Speaker 1: at it, and I reckon if one of their friends
Speaker 1: had the exact same thing and said would you like this?
Speaker 1: They go, yeah, I love it, but literally because it
Speaker 1: was owned by me, they want to do with a
Speaker 1: disgusting gross I wouldn't seem dead in that from like
Speaker 1: years ago. It's like a social suicide.
Speaker 3: Am I a bad mom for party on a phobia?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's a phobia actually is a
Speaker 3: phobia fear.
Speaker 2: Definitely something that proves like that moment of like oh
Speaker 2: I really can't cope when that happens. I think you
Speaker 2: think about it a little bit more as your sort
Speaker 2: of kids get older and you can see sort of
Speaker 2: certain patterns start to happen or conversations you might have
Speaker 2: with them. And I have always had the wonderful add
Speaker 2: on of when I was a kid, and I only
Speaker 2: started like when I was probably Gracie's age now. If
Speaker 2: we took long car trips, I was always that kid
Speaker 2: in the back with the bucket it because I got
Speaker 2: really bad cast sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get seasick too.
Speaker 3: I get se sick, so do I.
Speaker 1: And I remember the time and I saw it on
Speaker 1: your Instagram and the pictures look beautiful. You stayed on
Speaker 1: a beautiful boat. You slept on the boat for a
Speaker 1: few days, and I remember seeing the highlights real being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that looks so beautiful. What a lovely trip,
Speaker 1: she said. And then you were like, I literally you
Speaker 1: went to shore one day and you wanted to cry
Speaker 1: at the thought of getting back on the boat because
Speaker 1: she felt so sick. I was like, oh, that's the.
Speaker 3: Worst some of it.
Speaker 2: I was like, and it was really interesting, actually, now
Speaker 2: that you bring me back to that is like, say,
Speaker 2: for instance, on that particular trip, the child of mine
Speaker 2: that was right next to me and just feeling it
Speaker 2: so badly.
Speaker 1: Was else so same scenario.
Speaker 3: She was like, we're both very much land animals.
Speaker 2: And the way that that boat was broken up was
Speaker 2: that two of us had to sleep on the top
Speaker 2: deck and the chop deck had more windows and it
Speaker 2: was more open that I felt way better there.
Speaker 3: Than down below and tucked in. Yeah, and I know
Speaker 3: that they say.
Speaker 2: The shop is going to be rockier and all the rest,
Speaker 2: but I didn't like the idea that I was down
Speaker 2: the bottom, which is so weird when I think about it,
Speaker 2: because I flew on an aircraft for a living for
Speaker 2: three years, and where you sleep on that bad Boy
Speaker 2: is tucked right down the bottom of the air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's different. I get what you mean, because
Speaker 1: I've never felt sick on an airplane ever, doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how much tablence there is, I've never felt like that.
Speaker 1: But on a boat, I'm exactly the same. In the
Speaker 1: thought of being down underground. Jay and the girls have
Speaker 1: gone on and on at me for years about going
Speaker 1: on a cruise. I'm like, I can't see because I
Speaker 1: can't cope with being stuck somewhere and not being able
Speaker 1: to get off, and phebe, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's probably a little bit to do with mine.
Speaker 2: Is like that idea, like people come to you and
Speaker 2: go cruisers and cruisers and when we love it, we
Speaker 2: just get there and we unpack ones and we do this.
Speaker 2: And I can understand and see why people would love it,
Speaker 2: like I can see from a holiday perspective why you
Speaker 2: would love it. But the idea of putting me on
Speaker 2: a boat for two weeks and I'm stuck on that
Speaker 2: boat for two weeks would not go. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: where you could put me on the bottom of the
Speaker 2: boat or the top of the boat.
Speaker 3: It's just not going to work.
Speaker 1: And I feel like with cruise ships, like we've really digressed.
Speaker 1: But I feel like with cruise ships they've come with
Speaker 1: a bad rap. Yeah literally, you only ever see a
Speaker 1: cruise ship on the news when it's coming and they've
Speaker 1: all got gastro with.
Speaker 2: Kind of digress, But it's still around the theme of
Speaker 2: I as a kid, I remember if the power went out,
Speaker 2: I would vomit. If there was something pretty bad like
Speaker 2: go down, my first thing that goes is my tummy.
Speaker 3: I vomit.
Speaker 2: I then started getting car sickness vomit, and so this
Speaker 2: fear I think came from obviously being younger, but at
Speaker 2: the same time it carried over Now I was sort
Speaker 2: of hoping out of my two kids, I was like,
Speaker 2: not that, because it makes it hard, right, Like I
Speaker 2: am a head case when gastro is going through your household,
Speaker 2: it brings me unstuck. But Gracie is taking on little
Speaker 2: tendencies of having like even when she talks about it,
Speaker 2: she gets really like and I thought, oh my god,
Speaker 2: out of everything I could have passed down, I don't
Speaker 2: want you to have that part. But I think it's
Speaker 2: a little bit like especially getting older hormones, you know,
Speaker 2: heightened things for young girls.
Speaker 3: And so I was.
Speaker 2: Hoping that maybe it would just be like a short
Speaker 2: stint and then it will sort of pass.
Speaker 3: But Gracie is like the world is ending and she's
Speaker 3: throwing herself on the ground.
Speaker 1: I feel like, no matter how hard you try to
Speaker 1: not put on certain phobias to your kids, there's something
Speaker 1: inside that it just happens. Anyway. I've always been a
Speaker 1: bit OCD in my life, but I've actively tried to
Speaker 1: not say anything around my kids and tried to not
Speaker 1: be super so they're not aware of it. But merely
Speaker 1: is definitely the same. And I look at some of
Speaker 1: the stuff she does and I'm like, that's exactly the
Speaker 1: same as what I do, but she's never seen me
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: Maybe there is something in genetics, so.
Speaker 1: Like nature versus nurture or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because if you're not actively doing it, So
Speaker 2: it's going back to like what you know, what we
Speaker 2: always talk about, which is like actions speak louder than words.
Speaker 2: You're not physically saying it, but maybe your actions are
Speaker 2: displaying it without you knowing it subconsciously, right, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: when we start to do things, and when it comes
Speaker 2: to patterning and behaviors, we are doing it sometimes without
Speaker 2: subconsciously knowing what we're doing, and they're always watching. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's where it comes from as well. My whole thing
Speaker 2: with vomiting and stuff like that. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know that she's actively like you know, being around or
Speaker 2: seeing it. I have no idea, but this is one
Speaker 2: of those things that I don't have too many, like
Speaker 2: extreme fears or phobias. Cane toads, Okay, cane toads is
Speaker 2: another one of mine. Yeah, just I think growing up
Speaker 2: in North Queensland just put something in the back of
Speaker 2: my brain that if it starts to jump or move around,
Speaker 2: I am on this, like I am where It's like
Speaker 2: if a snake goes past, I'm like, oh look, wow,
Speaker 2: a bit like, oh, I might stand back here, but
Speaker 2: I'm not like shit or a.
Speaker 1: Spider, even though like the snake would kill you, but
Speaker 1: the cane toad isn't. And those cane toads don't even
Speaker 1: like they're so dumb. They don't even get out of
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 3: Like you can. Don't.
Speaker 1: They're not fast enough to move. I don't if you
Speaker 1: stepped on one.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have stepped on one many times, because in North
Speaker 2: Queensland you can not walk across grass without either kicking
Speaker 2: one or stepping on it or having it jump right
Speaker 2: across your feet kind of thing. Because there's so many
Speaker 2: of them. And when we were out there, you'd hear
Speaker 2: all the things like people, oh, they're a pest.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: This was very far North Queensland, because they are truly
Speaker 2: a pest up there, because they live in the cane
Speaker 2: fields whatever.
Speaker 3: But they're a pest and so people used to do awful,
Speaker 3: awful things to get rid of them.
Speaker 2: One of the most traumatic scenes of one of my
Speaker 2: childhood with a cane toad was so much chucked it.
Speaker 3: On the fire.
Speaker 2: Oh it blew and I was just like, I thought,
Speaker 2: it's one of the most traumatic moments. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why, because I don't like them, but
Speaker 2: I don't need to hurt them.
Speaker 1: No, that's cruel, that's horrible.
Speaker 3: That was Grade seven.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna bring cane toads back to parenting and children,
Speaker 1: I just was thinking to myself, you said cane toads
Speaker 1: are a pest. Yes, cane toads are a pest. They're
Speaker 1: an introduced pest. We introduced that pest to Queensland, just
Speaker 1: like kids introduced pests.