1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast. We popped 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: up a video just to see the interest on the 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: story we ran yesterday of a girl out of Poland 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: who's claiming to be Madeline McCann. There are some interesting 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: bits of information in her detail. Of million people have 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: viewed our video fits because they are fascinated by the 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: idea that maybe, just maybe this could be Madeline McCann. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: So the likelihood she believes is one hundred percent, and 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the parents have now come out Kate and Jerry and said, 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: you know what, let's run a DNA test. Absolutely, and 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: we're happy to meet with the girl. So she is 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: saying that she's as part of her evidence, she's shown 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: body markings like moles and dimples on the right side 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: of her face, and she's also shown at a small 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: defect in her eye that was consistent with Madeline mccan's. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: So she's also said that there were no photos of 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: her when she was younger, and second that her grandmother 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: who she lives with, has said that she was with 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: her since the day she was born, but the teachers 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: at school have informed her that she didn't arrive later 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: on in her life. So she I'm not sure if 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: she's become familiar with the story and then all of 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: a sudden the pennies dropped in her world. But this case, 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: which has the world now fascinated at the possibility of 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: her being medline McCann has now gained enough momentum that yes, 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: the DNA test will happen. The parents have approved that, 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: and the parents are willing to meet with her as well. 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: Her name is Julia Wandelt and one person that spent 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: a bit of time with Julia is doctor Fea Jahanson. 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: She's a Persian medium and she joins us. Now, how 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: did you did you get in contact with Julia or 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: did Julia get in contact with you? 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: Well, let's see, let's just actually introduce myself again, as 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: you said, I'm a doctor Fia Johanson. I'm actually doctor 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: of psychology and human behavior. Also the medium that working 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: with police officers, private investigators to finding missing persons for 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: so many years. And I wasn't in makin case officially 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: back twenty nineteen, which is I was in a Daily Star, 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: the Sun magazine and a lot of the magazine in 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: US in UK. And however, when these things started, basically 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: people higher up. They asked me to check into that girl, 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: and then starting to figure it out exactly what she's 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: up to, why she think that she's madelone mcin what 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: is her statement, and why actually her parents refusing to 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: do the dnahst with her, and why the mom never 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: basically mentioned and said anything about her about her childhood, 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: remembering the raper, the same raper, the same picture that 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: basically when Madeline mckin vanished, you know, back then in 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, So she recognized the face, she 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: recognized the feature of the person, and then all those questions. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: So we're starting to investigate about her and helping her 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: to really see what's going on the family, and especially 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: mom refusing to do the DNA test the nostelle saying 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: that I don't want to do the DNA test, but 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: I do have a birth certificate. So the birth certificate 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: is not going to be enough. And again, we have 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: to protect Madeline McKay's parents. We have to protect people 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: who actually really had a very tough time past couple 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: of years because of Madeline McCain missing. However, the latest 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: and the fastest things that they can do is about 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: that her parents' mom take Julia to the hospital and 62 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: basically proved to everybody that this is actually my kid. 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: This is it. My kid has some mental health issues, whatever, 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: but this is my kid and this is a DNA proof. 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: She's not going to because we did have a conversation 66 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: with her about a couple of hours ago, she still 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: refused to do the DNA test. 68 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Doctor, can I ask this question? Can I ask, firstly, 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: what do you believe this could be medale McCann? And secondly, 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: as a psychic, in your ratings, what is your gut side, 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: what does your feelings say about medaline McCann. 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: If I wasn't really sure about the situation that could 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: be raised my concern about I wouldn't even get involved 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: with the case, and I wouldn't even actually want to 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: do investigation and send my investigation team to Poland to 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: basically figure it out exactly what's going on. So it 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: has to be something. But still to me, this case 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: is a very sensitive case. We can't just go for 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: the feelings anymore. We have to have approved, we have 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 3: to have a test. But at this moment, the test 81 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 3: that what people basically said, Oh the medaline Mackayan parents, 82 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: Gary and Kate, they said that they absolutely wanted to 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: do the test that's not correct. I repeatedly wanted to 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: have a test that's not correct. So again they are 85 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: waiting for all this investigation get done, and they are 86 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: also waiting that the mom of Julia do test first 87 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: and then figure it out exactly. If actually mom, Dad, Evan, 88 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: grandma and grandpa is actually matched with the DNHS with it, 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: then you know we already got an answer. 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Doctor. A great point was made yesterday where they said 91 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: this is a worldwide case and it has been. If 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Madeline McCann had been taken from Portugal that night and 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: moved to Poland via some sort of kidnapping service and 94 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: then relocated into a family and started school around the 95 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: age of four and five, would the school and the 96 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: teachers not have gone Hang on a minute, that's Madeline McCann. 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: We know what she looks like. We're familiar with the story. 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Respect with your opinion. They don't because they are living 99 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: in the very small town that they may not even 100 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: actually having that enough TV or kind of like a 101 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: news going on. So again, not enough other places that 102 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: is actually a big city is a very very very 103 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: small town. And at the same time we are investigating 104 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: right now, the teacher, schools and also friends close family 105 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: members of Julia to figure out exactly what's going on. 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: A lot of actually statement out there that says, oh, 107 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: she's twenty one, and you know Madeline shouldn't be twenty one, 108 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: but it's pretty easy, kind of like get the fake 109 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: certificate for two years younger or two years older, especially 110 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: when actually we're talking about that town and we're talking 111 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: about you know that place. However, my feeling still says 112 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: that something is missing. There is a puzzle that is 113 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: not really connect with each other. If actually connect those 114 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: puzzles and if we actually agreed or make sure that 115 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: the mom of the karent Julia will do the DNA test, 116 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: so we already got the point, but did she. 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really interesting, doctor Payja Hanson. We really 118 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: appreciate you, Tom. We I have busy Thank you for 119 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: coming on and okay, a test now we're still well. 120 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if it was done. I mean, the doctor 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: makes a really valid point because for one, it could 122 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: be DNA of her and also Madeline McCann's parents. But 123 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: she's right, it should be the grandmother or the family 124 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: members of the young girl in Poland. I think that's 125 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: a really valid point. It's a shame we had to 126 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: wrap up to me. I wanted to ask the doctor, 127 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: who's also a psychic, if there was going to be 128 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: an increase in your love life or some sort of improvement. 129 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay. We'll check in tomorrow. 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Still pretty cold at your Thank you so much, Snick 131 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: of the Woods, thank you so much. All right, we'll 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: keep you up to speak with any breaking details. 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