1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're people. Enjoy a couple of our best of twenty 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. Don't forget you can you can follow us 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: on the Apple and Spotify apps. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Our guests today, we've got very special guests, David and 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Candice Warner. Have you met the guys before? Have you 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: met him? 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: I interviewed Candace last year. Yeah, she's champed, tough man, tough, tough, 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: tough time. It comes from a tough, working class family. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: South Sydney supporters. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: They both South Sydney supporters. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is interesting days a Rooster supporter, 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: is he? I wonder like that relationship when those two, 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: when those two play each other, they've got three kids, 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: they've got the girls too. I wonder how that works out. 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, for those that don't know, if we've got 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: cricket fans listening, that's the biggest rivalry in the rugby league. 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: If not Australian sport, is it is that the biggest? 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: I think is there another Australia sport rather than like 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: ball sport outside of cricket in rugby league? Are there 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: any other sports from rugby league and cricket in Australia? 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Not really, it's the biggest rilly in Australian sport. I 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: met Dave in the mid two thousands. I think it 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: was Brad McNamara, who played Sheffield Shield for Australia. He 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: was at my sideline producer on Friday Night Football and 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: it was the Broncos versus the Roosters, I think, and 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: he said, I'm bringing a young guy to the game, 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: young cricketer. I reckon, it'll be very very good player. 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Probably played for Australia one day and sat on the 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: sideline with us. It was Dave, who was only a 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: young guy. 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: I just always wanted David to still do just do 33 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: his best, because there was always that level of someone 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 3: wanting him to fail. So I just you know, David 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: didn't care so much about what was written about him, 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: but I did, and I still do because I'm so 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: protective of him. And you know, I've got a little 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: list of all these people who have said some really 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: horrible things, and there's been times I can't bite my 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: tongue and I've sent them a little Twitter message and 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: or I've pulled them up on it, especially when I've 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: got so many facts and numbers that can back up 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: what Dave's done, and it was just a massiveilon. It 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: was always because it was easy. 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: You could get a headline. 46 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: It was great clickbait to put David's photo or his 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: name or sensationalize anything to do with David, and that 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: annoys me. 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: You were on says, what was that experience like? Go 50 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: on says? 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: I loved it because I. 52 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Beat min to Johnson. 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't hard to beat anyways. 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 5: Click click click click. 55 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: But it's up before a big test, Dave. How'd you 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: feel before a big test? Or even again where you go? Right, 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: I need a big school here. 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 6: Didn't care? Yeah, right, there's no I don't ever feel pressure. 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 6: I think for me, what happened at the back end, 60 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 6: what Cannice was talking about was all the focus started 61 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 6: being on me, and I'm about the team. So I'm 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 6: trying to put my hand up to do the media 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 6: because it's about the team. So we go back to England. 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 6: When I made the statement of Sydney would be great, 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 6: It'll be fitting if I'm to get there, if I'm 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 6: scoring runs, if I'm doing well, but I penciled in 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 6: Lords as my finish because that's the second test. If 68 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 6: I wasn't going well, then I might as well retire 69 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, I wasn't scoring runs, 70 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 6: I wasn't upholding my standards, and I didn't want to 71 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 6: let the team down. When we talk about pressure, the 72 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 6: focus was on me, but I was just going out 73 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 6: there and trying to reverse it as much as I could. 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 6: So I sort of tried to play in the back 75 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 6: of my mind that I'm done. 76 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 7: What kind of father were you? 77 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: Were you honest? 78 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 7: Were you encouraging? 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: Were you one that would yell out? 80 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: I'd never yell out. 81 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Are you guys going to be? 82 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 5: Like? 83 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: Are you guys going to be the yellows that you're 84 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: going to say? Is that because of who you are? 85 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 6: Because when we go to the girls, either tennis or 86 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 6: soccer or netble, I only get frustrated the netple because 87 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 6: they bunch up and they don't spread out when it 88 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 6: comes to I was tagging all that. I don't care 89 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 6: they bunch up, but when it comes to netble, it 90 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 6: frustrates me because you. 91 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Need space, explore the space girls, and spread out. 92 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: Do you yell it out from the sideline? 93 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: I had to say, listen. 94 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 6: I was like, girls, spread out, It's not hard. 95 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: It is not hard. 96 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 6: Look at all the space on the court I don't 97 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 6: know from a bar reso, but just spread out. 98 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 7: But then when they play cricket on a Saturday, he 99 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 7: could not care less. He's sitting there just. 100 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 6: I'm sitting now watching other parents throw the balls and 101 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 6: get the balls from him, like I'm not getting involved 102 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 6: in this. 103 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: When you say no, have you Is that no superstitions 104 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: now that you know you've gotten to the back end 105 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: of your career or is that no superstitions ever? 106 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: No, Well, if you want to call it a superstition, 107 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: you can. But I would never have duck the night 108 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 6: before a game. 109 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: But it's not a superstition. 110 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 6: It's just more like I was just like, wow, I'm 111 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 6: not going to do it because one of the boys 112 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 6: I mentioned it to him. We're in peter Forest, We're 113 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 6: in England and we're at a Chinese restaurant and he goes, 114 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 6: stuff it. 115 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm ordering the peaking duck first ball, next game. 116 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 6: Bold neck and crop And he walked off and goes, 117 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 6: I'm not another peaking duck. 118 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 8: Ever. 119 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: Again, here's a question. If you go to the Golden 120 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Century you're never peeking duck. Does that mean you get 121 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: a fifty. 122 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 7: Exactly? 123 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 6: Probably the only place golden duck. 124 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's something bit of trivia. Walt Disney was 125 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: a huge cricket fan, went to Headingly the only time 126 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: to watch Donald Bradman play. Donald Bradman got a duck. 127 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: And that's where we got the name Donald Duck from 128 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: because and evidence of that if you look at like Wikipedia, 129 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: donald Duck. What his middle name is is the company 130 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: that used to produce the baggy green. Are you're kidding me? 131 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: What are you? 132 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 6: And what's the company that produced the bay Green? 133 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: Sensing this as a. 134 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: Point, I swear to god, you know it's a game. 135 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: Leave it at the door. 136 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: Nothing like that. 137 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: Because it's funny because Cooper living here, he would often 138 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: bring if he had a bad game, you bring it home, 139 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: which meant he was never happy. 140 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: But you know, his preparation was always I would say, 141 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: plenty of gin and tonics the night before. He didn't 142 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: eat and he didn't let anything affect him. So if 143 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: something wasn't right, you know, sometimes you'd have Coca Pops 144 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: for breakfast. Sometimes he would have eggs. Other times the 145 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: night before he would have macas or there was nothing 146 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: you know that he was He wasn't that regimented with 147 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: his preparation other than his training, and he's work. 148 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: That's what relief. 149 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: That is. 150 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Like when I was superstitious, I would collect them like coins, 151 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: two socks underneath underpants. I'd see like pick up a 152 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: piece of open the ground, play, well I carry my bag? 153 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: Is that because you were looking for form? 154 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it was like all 155 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have a good game and carry 156 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: coins around, and actually it becomes tougher than the game itself. 157 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: You're an overthinker that by nature, like you overthink a lot, 158 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: don't you Well. 159 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: What brings you to that? 160 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I was just trying to help you 161 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: to get there as well. 162 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: You were superstitious with your boy's careers, Like do you 163 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: feel like your superstitions if they had a good game, 164 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: you if you did something, it's like I better keep doing. 165 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: That, kendersal was I was. I'd sit and the boys 166 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: would do something good in the game, and I'd say 167 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: tap the foot three times, things like that. It became 168 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: really like it was really fucking hard. 169 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: We had James Magnuson on this last week and he 170 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: spoke about a bloke that he used to swim with 171 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: and his superstition was he used to masturbate every time before. 172 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: He used to go out on the blox no I 173 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: swear on my life, gee whiz every single time. And 174 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: then they were in where was it Sri Lanka one 175 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: time and they said the toilets were so dirty, and 176 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: he was just in there for like half an hour 177 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: because he couldn't kid himself. 178 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: I'd thought a lot of people that it was the opposite. 179 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: So like some teams ban their players from having sex 180 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: the night before because aren't you supposed to build that 181 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: testosterone case you do your hips or something. 182 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 7: It was, it was. 183 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: It was an old wise tart. 184 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a mate who has to edge before 185 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: every game. Sorry, he edges, so he masturbates, but he 186 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: doesn't get himself to. 187 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: The very end, Harry Grant, you're a. 188 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: Don't name and shame him, but good luck, Harry. Now 189 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: we're on to a very special guest, friend of the podcast, 190 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: friend of myself and of you, James magnuson the Missile. 191 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: The Missile, But I really like Missile. 192 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: He's a good man, very straight shooter. Yeah really it's 193 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: very good on the radio, isn't he. 194 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: It's really good, got a good career in the media. 195 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: To the other thing sticks out about Missile too, his 196 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: wife Rose, his partner Rose, she is M A D. 197 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, spell that if you can't spell mad. 198 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's M A D. But she's not B A D. 199 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: She's she's a great person, but she's mad. 200 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 201 00:08:59,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: It's good. 202 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a very mad couple together they are. 203 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But Missile, he's very much in the news, hasn't 204 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: He's been He's been coops, it's been right across the world. 205 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: As far as him competing in the Enhanced Games Enhanced Games, 206 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: most newspapers in the world, all the American newspapers, European newspapers, 207 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: every first person to every first person to commit. 208 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've got him exclusive. 209 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Missile the Enhanced Games, as they call it. Whose idea 210 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: was this? Where where did it come from? 211 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: The Enhanced Games? I'd heard about about six months prior 212 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 5: to this, and the idea to me seemed a little 213 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: it seemed impossible at a time, like most most guys 214 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 5: have spoken about in the pub right, like you'd love 215 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: to see athletes just go helpful oather and see what's possible. 216 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 5: The point they were at, I thought, no, this is 217 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 5: this is not something that's realistic. Six months down the track. 218 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: The other week, I was listening to Joe Rogan and 219 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 5: sure enough he starts talking about the Enhanced Olympics, and 220 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: off the back of that, Peter Till, billionaire philanthropist, comes 221 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: on and he says, I'm going to back it financially. 222 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: So now suddenly they've got the exposure, they've got the backing, 223 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 5: and it sounds a little bit more realistic. So I 224 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: was talking to one of my mates about it, and 225 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 5: my mate that I was talking to, he's an ideas man, 226 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 5: and he said, mate, I reckon, I reckon, you. 227 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: Should do it? 228 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 5: And I said, well, you know, for a million bucks, 229 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 5: I'd do it. So the boys at Hello Sport Podcasts 230 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 5: reached out and they just literally gave me a phone 231 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: call and said, hey, hey, miss I, we're on the potty, 232 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: you're live. Have you heard this enhance Games? I said, yep, 233 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 5: said you know, what do you think of it? I said, well, 234 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 5: how about this? For a million dollars, I'd go on 235 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 5: the enhanced Games and break the world record. That was 236 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 5: it throw away comment. And you know what I regret 237 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 5: I said on this bloody podcast. I rejuiced to the gills. 238 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: I break the world record. A little bit difficult to 239 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 5: explain to your. 240 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Mum and dad, will you break the fifty meter record? 241 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 6: You know? 242 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: I had this common with my dad, but he goes, 243 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 5: what if? What if you don't break the world record? 244 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 5: I said, Dad, Honestly, I would not be where I 245 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 5: am today if at any point, at any given point 246 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: during my younger life and career, I doubted myself whether 247 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: I could do something. I talked to kids all the 248 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: time when I do you know, swim clinics and the like. 249 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 5: My message is always the same. I never won a 250 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 5: race in my life that I didn't think that I 251 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: was going to win going into it. Part of that 252 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: was convincing yourself and the lead up, Yeah I'm the best, 253 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: I'm the fastest man in the world, which is a 254 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 5: hard thing to get your head around, right, you know, 255 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: a little kid from pau McCoy and you're going, no, 256 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 5: I am the fastest man in history. 257 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: I am. 258 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: You know, this is this is where I belong. And 259 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 5: the moment that I heard the million dollars accepted, I 260 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 5: went straight back into yeah, I can do that, dear. 261 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 5: I went for a swim this week back in the ring. 262 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 5: Back in the ring, went for a swim with the 263 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 5: thought in the back of my mind again of I 264 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: want to be the fastest man in history. It felt 265 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: good to do that again. I don't know if I 266 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 5: speak for all athletes, but everyone in this room will 267 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: be able to give me feedback. I still regularly have 268 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 5: dreams where I'm in front of a big crowd, or 269 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 5: I'm either mid race or just finished a race, just 270 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 5: in a big moment. Again, every time I wake up, 271 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: I'll got this big smile on my face and I 272 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 5: get the jitters and then you. 273 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: Go, ah, back to normal life. 274 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: Cooper, do have those dreams? Really? I am a kick 275 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: out running out the top of your big smile. 276 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: It's like, thank God, No, Actually, I don't have any 277 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: of those dreams anymore. 278 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 5: I still put the Olympics as the pinnacle of sports, 279 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 5: definitely in my arena that the World Cup in soccer. 280 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 5: Now I was probably superseded as the most watched, the 281 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: most anticipated event, but it's such a pinnacle of sport 282 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 5: that you have to feel perfect on that day, on 283 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 5: that night against every other person in the world to 284 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: be the fastest in the planet. 285 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: How do you do the missile because there's certain things 286 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: in preparation. When you go and play football, sometimes the 287 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: balls just not hitting your hands. What got you in 288 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: the sweet spot? 289 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: I remember a couple of times on big events, and 290 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 5: this will rattle you is I woke up on the 291 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 5: morning of like a World Championship final, Olympic final and 292 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: just I feel like shit today, a bit of a headache, 293 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: Just feel like shit, and you go, it's probably the 294 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 5: most important day of my life and you have to 295 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 5: turn it around mentally. So most of it is mental 296 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 5: resilience and toughness and getting yourself back in that headspace. 297 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: The Olympic Village, the myth and the truth. They say 298 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: that it's basically root fest. Is that the case? 299 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 4: Where is the. 300 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: Shop? 301 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: I think there is aspects of that that are true. 302 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 5: When you put that many young athletic people in one village, 303 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: things happen. You get into a village, it's like Charlie 304 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: and the Chocolate Factory for an adult. 305 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: Right. 306 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 5: You walk in there and there's athletes of all shapes 307 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: and sizes. There's so many crazy things in there, like 308 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: you know, massive food halls, McDonald's. There's all these vending machines, 309 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: anywhere everywhere, and the biggest sponsors are like Cabri, Coca Colas. 310 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: There's vending machines with all the sweets and mollies and 311 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: gatorades and cokes and everything. You can imagine everything free, 312 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: So it's all free. Everything in the village is free 313 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 5: like that. There's there's a Beats by Dre stall in there, 314 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 5: and you go in and say I want this color beats. 315 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 5: They just give you free Beats by Dre. Everything in 316 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: there was free. 317 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 8: Is it true? 318 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: The condoms as well, Yeah, they're just they're handing out, 319 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: they reckon. It's an astronomical number of condoms that they 320 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: go through during the games. This guy made a final 321 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 5: and Olympic Games one year and was doing his warm 322 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: up for this final at the Olympic Games and he 323 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 5: just said to the coach, I'm too nervous. I can't 324 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: do it. Basically, the area of the event got the 325 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: better of him. And it does. But right before you 326 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: swim an Olympic race, it's you hear the crowd above you, 327 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 5: you understand what's about to happen. It's a very overwhelming experience. 328 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: And he just said, I can't do it. 329 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: What can I do? 330 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: To ease the tension here, and somehow, amidst this crazy scenario, 331 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 5: he decides to relieve himself. 332 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Rub the thumb over it, yes, masturbate. 333 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: It straight out right before the Olympic final. Anyway, it 334 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 5: calms him down somewhat. He gets his tit and he 335 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: goes back to these coach They talk through it. He 336 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 5: goes out that night and he wins a bronze medal 337 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: in the Olympic final against all odds. Now, this guy 338 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: then has this superstition every time he races he needs 339 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 5: to do the same thing that one in that bronze 340 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: medal at. 341 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: That Olympic shake hands as a person who represented country 342 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: New South Wales in water polo from the sesnox sales. 343 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: Got your miss off, it's not even water, I did. 344 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: I did assume clue, mate, I did assume clinic at 345 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: cessnot recently. And they said to me, we actually inducted 346 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 5: Matthew and Andrew into the Cessnock Sporting Hall of Fame 347 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 5: or something. If you see matt can you ask him 348 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: to come up and collect the award? I said, did 349 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 5: either of. 350 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Them turn up? 351 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 9: They said, no, they didn't turn out. That was that 352 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 9: was the local man told me that to be able 353 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 9: to fill up his trophy be shouted to mamic cheese. Anyway, 354 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 9: Webby's about to get it. 355 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Forty seven Grand Final, wasn't it. 356 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: It was ninety seven Grand Final was So the celebration 357 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: at the town hall was on the Tuesday. Is that Ryan, 358 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: I'd covered the nights that year for the first That 359 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: was my first year. So that's why I've got a 360 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: good relationship with your father. Uncle looks more like brother, Yeah, 361 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: sort of. So I remember trying to interview Maddie on 362 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: top of the town Hall with all you know, with 363 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: the sprawling people out there in the park below. And 364 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 4: there's actually a photo of me in the Maitland Mercury 365 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: files with me with my tape recorder out, and you've 366 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: got you've got the lopezee going holding a Crown Lager. 367 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I think we're at the sunny side afterwards, sitting in 368 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: the gutter talking. 369 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: But the reason why I went to Maddie for a 370 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: comment is because I went to your uncle and said 371 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: Joey Andrew Webster of Maitland Mercury, and Joey goes, just 372 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: make the quotes up. 373 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: What is the article you've written that you are most 374 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: proud of. 375 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: There's a couple. There's a few. There's a few that 376 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: I wrote. The ones you're most proud of. Where is 377 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: where you know you're going to write an article or 378 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: break a story and you're going to get You know 379 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: you're going to get absolutely smashed, but you know that 380 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: it's right and it'll get proven time. So for me, 381 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 4: that one was I breaked the story about Simon Cattish 382 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: grabbing Michael Clark by the throat. Remember after that in 383 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: the SCG after that Cricket Australia when I called for comment, 384 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: had quotes ready to go, so they knew it was 385 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: about to come. But it led to a bigger divide 386 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 4: in that Australian dressing room between Michael Clark and his 387 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: teammates and it got to a point where he was 388 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: in and out of the team. He had dodgy hamstrings 389 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: and they were pissed off with him. He had fallen 390 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: out with a large section of that team. And I 391 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: wrote it. And I can tell you why I wrote 392 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: it because I remember going to the Cricket on the piece, 393 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: walking into a corporate box and a very well known 394 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: former Australian captain said to me when are you guys 395 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: going to write about Michael Clark falling out with his team? 396 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: And I went Monday, and so I made calls and 397 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 4: stood it up, and I remember there was people from 398 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: Cricket Australia wanted me sacked. I was getting hammered by readers. 399 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: But in the end there it all. After he retire, 400 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: after they all retired, and they all put out their 401 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: respective autobiographies and all confirmed everything that I wrote. The 402 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: main one is the one when I came out. You know, 403 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: I came out on the front page of the paper 404 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: in twenty and thirteen. 405 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: You know that took a lot of burying it down. 406 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: What does that do? 407 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: Just not just denying it to myself, denying it to 408 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: others and just yeah, just and I masked a lot 409 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: of it with drugs and alcohol. I just went. I 410 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: remember sitting there one morning, Saturday morning, hungover, looking at 411 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: the White War. I had rage on and I just went, brother, you. 412 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: Gay Jesus, how did that feel? Once you let it out? 413 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: It was I thought it was going to solve everything, 414 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: but it didn't. It didn't at all like it. Just 415 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 4: then I had to come to terms with it myself, 416 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: my own homophobia and what it meant to be gay? 417 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: And do I have to go and fit into Oxford Street? 418 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: And how am I going to tell? The big thing 419 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: was telling my dad, how's your dad? I'll probably cry 420 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: saying this. He was the last I told and I 421 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: will cry. Ay. And I was in a bad way 422 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: and I called him and he was working in Sydney 423 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: and he came around. He sat down. He goes, what 424 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: is it? What is it? Killed somebody? And I said, 425 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: I said, Dad, I'm gay, And he goes, is that in? 426 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 4: Is that why you've been off the rails for the 427 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 4: last two years? Graham? He said, mate, I don't care 428 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 4: that you're gay. All I care is that you're my son. 429 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: I love you, and we like scugged each other and 430 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: cried and he goes, he goes, have you got any 431 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: beer in the fringe? I said, yeah, I do. I 432 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: went and I brought out two coroge. He goes, you 433 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: are so the wolf you feed. There's a saying that 434 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: Wayne uses from time to time on his on his players, 435 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: and he uses it particularly motivational speeding, speaking about the 436 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: two wolves are good and the bad wolf. So it's 437 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: an old Cherokee saying, and the wolf that you feed 438 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: is the one that comes through in your personality. The 439 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: more people that I interviewed, they said, that's Wayne and 440 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: the two wolves of Wayne Bennett at the coach and 441 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: the man, and he's like, and since it's between the 442 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 4: two of them, is getting wider and wider, and he's 443 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: gravitating more towards being a coach than being a human being. 444 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: And I just thought that was a really interesting thing 445 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: to explore in the book. 446 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Whebe just on that motivational speaking, because Wayne's pretty dry. 447 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: How is his presentation as far as a motivational speaker? 448 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: Very dry, very dry. But he's got such a you know, 449 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: he's got such a unique delivery where it's it's so 450 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 4: it's so monotone. But again, because it's Bennett and it's 451 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: him saying and he's got the big long pauses, it 452 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 4: just seems to have so much gravity. But the thing 453 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 4: that I found most interesting in writing that book at 454 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: the start was how much he was an introvert who 455 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: hated public speaking, Like he got up to speak at 456 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: his cousin's twenty first birthday and just clammed up and 457 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: couldn't talk at all. So you juxtapose that against the 458 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: fact that he's probably the greatest coach we've ever seen, 459 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: you know, who's speaking in front of a thousand people 460 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: at conferences and dressing rooms and winning comps. Found that 461 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: an interesting sort of thing to discover anyone. So it 462 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: was an unauthorized book and I was always he was 463 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: the first person I called after I signed the contract. 464 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: What surprised you about him? More fascinated you about him? 465 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: He's quite emotional, I found him more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 466 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: There were times there where like he'd be driving from 467 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: Brisbane to Warwick where his farm he's or his farm 468 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: outs just outside of Warwick, and he and we get chatting, 469 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: and we built up such a great rapport throughout the 470 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: whole couple of years that I was doing it. And 471 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: there's a real softer side of him that that I 472 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: never saw what would bring that out. Talk about his son, 473 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: talk about Justin, that was that was He talks about 474 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: Justin a lot in this book. That made him quite emotional. 475 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: And just also where he came from, Like the people 476 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: woreried looked down on that family after the father. His 477 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: father walked down on the family when Wayne was twelve 478 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: and Wayne, by virtual being the eldest, had to basically 479 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: become the dominant male figure in the house. And yeah, 480 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 4: it was really tough. People are worried. They look down 481 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: on the Benner kids as if they were pieces of ship. 482 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: Basically so, and you're still talk to me about that 483 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: stuff and he gets emotional around. 484 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: That, talking about little feuds with players and journals. I 485 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: witnessed one of the funniest things ever last year. We 486 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: were doing a commerce shooting some commercial with a with 487 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: a golfer and Brent Reid was there and Read and 488 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: Jaki Darovitch was just trying to walk in after the 489 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: golf commercial and read. He's just holding up a take 490 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: recording Jakie, just give us a quote, give us quover something, 491 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: and he was going frudy. 492 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: I told you before, mate, what do we hear for 493 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: the commercial? 494 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: It's not a media day ready, I don't even know 495 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: what you're doing it not doing it, And Reading must 496 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: have been in a ship. Really started buying back on Jake. 497 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: I've been good to you, Jake, and they just everyone's 498 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: sitting there going, what the hell? Never seen Jake? 499 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 7: Anyway? 500 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: Its almost a likely blue two nice guys. 501 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: I think they're good now Woods he's blown it out 502 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: of proportion. He's said it on every media platform and 503 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: they've kind of they've kind of squashed it. 504 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Now, what are you smoking? 505 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, I just you sparked my memory while we're on Origin. Okay, 506 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: because you, you and Dad obviously do the Friday s 507 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: c N show together, and there was a blue obviously 508 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: last year with Origin with between Matthew and Andrew Johnson 509 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: and you were you were front and center for it. 510 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: What was your experience like that? 511 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: I've got no comment. Can you and your brother sort 512 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: it out? 513 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: It was tense, it was and I thought he was 514 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: joking when he first bit and then as you went 515 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: to the ad break my quote whether you say, is 516 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: you're right little brother? He said no, it's a good bander. 517 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: That was the last blown up. 518 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: But to me, you know what I love about it 519 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: just shows you, like Origin just sucks us all in 520 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: it just it just shows you the emotion around it. 521 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: It does Jannah Podcast, first podcast. Sorry, let me, I 522 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: don't want to go that again. 523 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: We're actually going to leave that, Jack, We're leaving that here. Yeah, okay, 524 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: take two guys. We don't need a clap. 525 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: I'll walk off. Okay, Welcome Joanna to the backstage. Podcast. 526 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: Before we get into the nuances of your career. You 527 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: and Matthew, You've had a lot to do with each other. 528 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: We have, Janna, I think. 529 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 7: It's a ten year friendship now it is about ten years. 530 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: It is. 531 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: We worked on the Grill Team, the Triple M Grill 532 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Team together for years and years. Some of the best 533 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: times of my work. Actually, I was going to say 534 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: working life, some of the best times of my life. 535 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 7: I agree. I was thinking about this last night and 536 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 7: I was like, there are two times in my life 537 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 7: that I would go back to. The first one is 538 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 7: UNI because like, not for the work, but I went 539 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 7: to Union Bathiston. It was the best time of my life. 540 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 7: And then the second time was the Girl Team. Oh, 541 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 7: it was so fun. It shouldn't have been a job 542 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 7: it was. 543 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: It was. 544 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable and the dynamics it was amazing, Janna, 545 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: because other people you would talk to who had produced 546 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: or been in breakfast radio shows, they couldn't believe how long, 547 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: how well we all got on. Yeah, and they're like, really, 548 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: most breakfast shows hate each other. I mean there's exceptions. 549 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Coyle and Jackie obviously get on very very well. I mean, 550 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: Amanda and Josie have lasted so long, so they do. 551 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a rarity. They usually hit each other apart. 552 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 7: Well, there was actually I think closed door meetings because 553 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 7: we were so clique. We were so tight that I 554 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 7: think the rest of the office used to get a 555 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 7: bit funny and they would be like, guys, you've got 556 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 7: to include us in stuff. We were just having so 557 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 7: much fun. 558 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: I remember there was someone who worked on the afternoon 559 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: shift once. I remember he had he had his producer 560 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: cornered in the room and like, you know, yelling gum 561 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, and me and MG said let's go and sort. 562 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, fu face. What most radio shows, because you 563 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 2: obviously a producer on the show, yes, but a lot 564 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: of the producers are involved in the show. What was 565 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: your Why don't you give our listeners and insight to 566 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: what your role because you had a good role. 567 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 6: I loved my role. 568 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 7: I was guest booker, which was fun, but I also 569 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 7: would get called on for the girl opinion. 570 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: That's it. I'm not going to mention. But there's a 571 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: well known actor in the States of Coach slot Into m. 572 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 573 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's nerdy, but he's like he's a bit of 574 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 7: a cheerleader. 575 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 4: He likes it. 576 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 7: He's he's into kind of, he's just fascinated because there's 577 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 7: a lot of women out there who write about dating, 578 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 7: but they ride it from a stance where men are 579 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 7: the worst and we all had done by. And I 580 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 7: don't think I do that because I have brothers, you know, 581 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 7: worked a triple M forever. I love men. I'm country 582 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 7: girl and so most of my followers are men because 583 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 7: they just want to figure out how women think. Yeah, 584 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 7: so I do attract weird guys sometimes. I've had a 585 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 7: guy who saw on my Instagram I was somewhere for 586 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 7: Anzac Day and he turned up because he was like up, Yeah, no, 587 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 7: we tried to play twos. 588 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: Is Sydney a tough place to be a single woman? 589 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, really tough, really tough. It's full of Peter Pans. 590 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 7: And there's more which a Peter Pan is. 591 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is Peter Pan? 592 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 7: So what is a guy that never grows up? Okay, 593 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 7: so they are and I don't blame them because they're 594 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 7: living their best lives. I've got a bit of Peter 595 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 7: Pan in me because you know, Sydney is really fun 596 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 7: and it is hard to commit. 597 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: What to find someone that doesn't grow up. Is that 598 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: like a childish sense of humor? Or is that like 599 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: still living at home with their parents A and B. 600 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 7: And or they'll send you a message like you up 601 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 7: or what you want to do? Or come to mind 602 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: and let's watch Netflix. 603 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: Yah, that means they're going to come over and have 604 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: what sex? 605 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: When they say Netflix, you are or that's what the 606 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: code for Netflix is? 607 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: Or you up? It means when you just come over 608 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: and have Yeah. 609 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: Dad was actually think said that to my mother, you 610 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: aren't going to come over watching Netflix, watch the Jeffrey Darma. 611 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: Just seeing that. 612 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: Because one of one of my friends used to masturbate 613 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: in public, just by like we'd be no, keep. 614 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: Going, it's just yeah, okay, this is a safe place. 615 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: He plays. He plays in the NRL. I don't know who. 616 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: He used to lay flat on his front on the floor. 617 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: So if we were all in the room watching the 618 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: footy and you'd see him just slowly, you'd see his glute. 619 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: You can tell because you'd see his glutes pushing down 620 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: on the floor. His friend in front of friends, in 621 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: front of family. 622 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 8: He said, he's very salt burnt, very suspicious, but but 623 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 8: you know he'd be done because you just you just 624 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 8: see his glutes stopped tensing and just just slaying there 625 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 8: on his front. 626 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 7: Oh my god, we're going to hear about him on 627 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 7: the news. 628 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: Hey, while you're on your saucy secrets, Yes, because I 629 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: have looked at some of them before and they are brilliant, 630 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: and some of the confessions that you get on there 631 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: are very good. 632 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 7: I was bored during lockdown, as we all were. 633 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm a bit of a perv. 634 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: I want to know what's going on. 635 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: In the bedroom. 636 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 7: So I just threw it out to my Instagram audience 637 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 7: and said, tell me a saucy secret and I'll share 638 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 7: it with everyone anonymously. And they came. They really brought 639 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 7: their saucy secrets, so I got sent a lot. The 640 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 7: Skirt Club was the best one. Like school moms, having 641 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 7: giant orgies in hotel rooms while the kids are at 642 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 7: school is hard to top. 643 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to top. I'd reckon pretty good. 644 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: There's some real patterns which I'm noticing. There's a lot 645 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 7: of guys that like to get pegged. 646 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah that is yeah, dad, So it's when your partner 647 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: will have like still, yeah, strap on dildo and have sex. 648 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: With you tush I know it's called Now You're a people. 649 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Enjoy a couple of our best of twenty twenty four. 650 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: Don't Forget you can. You can follow us on the 651 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Apple and Spotify apps.