WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 14 April

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<v Speaker 1>Live for. This is the Mabrecks of Paul Murray pub Test.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I from tweetheads just now work can be any

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things that haven't speaking everything a littly?

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<v Speaker 1>It is called the Mavericks pub test?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I everyone?

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<v Speaker 3>How are we tie up?

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<v Speaker 1>Tie up? We're to see everyone? Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for being here now tonight. I love this night every

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<v Speaker 1>single election because you are the bumper bowling thing is

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<v Speaker 1>down all right, like this is about real answers to

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<v Speaker 1>real questions that people genuinely care about in suburban and

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<v Speaker 1>regional Australia and with us tonight. Of course Bob Catter,

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<v Speaker 1>the leader of Cutterer of Australia Party and the Member

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<v Speaker 1>for Kennedy, Pauline Hanson from Pauline Hansen's One Nation will

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<v Speaker 1>be here. And the wonderful Matt Canavan, who has always

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<v Speaker 1>with us on a Monday night from the l NP

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<v Speaker 1>Proud of the end bit in the LNP as always

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<v Speaker 1>all right now, before I get to all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I like to start the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, I read a few psalms from the

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<v Speaker 1>whole book of albo Ah I just double check. I

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<v Speaker 1>welcome everyone, individually to country just in case, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're all as comfortable as possible. But rather than the

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<v Speaker 1>big long carry on, I'll do the data dumps and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. Let's just have a quick look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the stuff that's around today before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the real reason that we're all here today.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen days until the federal election. We're excited about the election. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought so. I thought so. Someone's been reading the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight days until early voting starts. It is meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be on a Monday, but it will be Tuesday because

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<v Speaker 1>of the holiday. It's almost like they planned for the

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<v Speaker 1>election campaign to be in the middle of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>what did they do today? Well, Anthony Abernezi lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different places, but he was handing out the cash unsurprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>your money borrowed money and doing so in Tasmania today,

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, what money did you spend of the Chinese today? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the debt today?

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<v Speaker 4>My government today is announcing up to twenty four million

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<v Speaker 4>dollars to help buyer prepare for a lower missions future

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<v Speaker 4>and to secure the future of the mill. Nine million

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<v Speaker 4>dollars of that over the next two years will be

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<v Speaker 4>to ensure its financial viability as this transition occurs. Will

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<v Speaker 4>also provide up to fifteen million dollars to match the

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<v Speaker 4>company's own investments in electrification that are occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>How is he winning? But okay, remember we're bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>a paper mill one shut down while he's the prime

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<v Speaker 1>in the start, which means we don't actually make a

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<v Speaker 1>full paper anymore in Australia. Were important, but that's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be distracted. And as you know, the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the media they only started to count the spending from

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the campaign week outed it from the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million

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<v Speaker 4>dollars ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred and fifty million dollars, two billion dollars, thirty

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<v Speaker 4>seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,

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<v Speaker 4>two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar,

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<v Speaker 4>four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars, three point

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<v Speaker 4>four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars, one hundred and fifty million dollars, one billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and forty five million dollars, six million dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>three million dollars, ten billion dollars, twenty four million dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>nine million dollars, fifteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's our show for tonight. Thanks very much for

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<v Speaker 1>waking the late debate is up in a moment or

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<v Speaker 1>two times seen inc Now, I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>of you you know, things weren't all that you planned,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a little divorce, a little breakup, but

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<v Speaker 1>your kids keep forcing you to have to see the

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<v Speaker 1>person you don't really like anymore, to keep the piece

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Christmas or Easter or birthdays or

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. Well, perfect example of that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the kiss non kiss between Albanezi and Plivsick.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're both from your South Wales and we're both

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<v Speaker 1>so close and we're both don't touch me, don't touch me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be pleased to know that today when mommy and

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<v Speaker 1>daddy were asked by the kids, everything's okay, can you?

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<v Speaker 4>Plivsik has been a friend of mine for a long

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<v Speaker 4>period of time. We live in neighboring seats. Were good mate,

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<v Speaker 4>since she's doing a fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know what I reckon we should still all

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<v Speaker 6>be elbow bumping, because during an election campaign, the last

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<v Speaker 6>thing you want is to catch.

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<v Speaker 2>A cold from someone.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's on me. I should have done the elbow bump,

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 7>He's still getting along.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course I hadn't heard that. I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 1>that until this. Then, see, Boss, I didn't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mouthed the swearing. Seriously, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>catch a cold. These people, they take the proverbial, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>As for our Peter Dunton, what he was doing today,

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<v Speaker 1>well was actually at a work site, one that his

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<v Speaker 1>son had been working on at some period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was an opportunity in a moment for his

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<v Speaker 1>son to have something to say about trying to follow

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<v Speaker 1>in his dad's footsteps, his mum's footsteps, which is save

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<v Speaker 1>up to buy a property. You know, God forbid that idea.

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<v Speaker 8>I am saving up for a house, and so is

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<v Speaker 8>my sister back and a lot of my mates. But

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<v Speaker 8>as you've heard, it's almost impossible to get in in

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<v Speaker 8>the current states. So I mean, we're saving luck, Mard,

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<v Speaker 8>but it doesn't look like we'll get there in the

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<v Speaker 8>near future. But we'd love that to change.

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<v Speaker 1>But it won't surprise you. This was a controversial thing

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<v Speaker 1>for a young man to say because the media, who

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<v Speaker 1>of course in the past has already turned around and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to blame Peter Dutton for his father's heart attack.

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<v Speaker 1>We're now trying to say that he was heartless because

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<v Speaker 1>he was forcing his kid to save up for the

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<v Speaker 1>deposit for the house. And the questions came today from

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<v Speaker 1>the media. This was some of the tough ones that

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<v Speaker 1>came the alternative Prime Minister's way today.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you foresee being in Wyala before voters head to

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<v Speaker 6>the pulse?

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<v Speaker 9>And given that this site produces around about eighty thousand

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<v Speaker 9>tons of emissions a year, how confident are you that

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<v Speaker 9>the investment that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Put forward will start to make a difference in shipping

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<v Speaker 1>away at that bring you that will make a difference. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, such questions asked of the alternative Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>How soft you reckon the media was today? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think there was any follow up on his version of

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<v Speaker 1>housing policies? Well, as you just saw, no didn't take place.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because we all know what they're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>Now latest opinion poles have come out from Resolve. They

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<v Speaker 1>are worse for the Liberal Party. They also suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>the Donald Trump of it all is switching voters back

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<v Speaker 1>towards Albanezi. So, as I've said for the past two

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<v Speaker 1>and a bit years, don't come and complain to me

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<v Speaker 1>when it's three years of more of the same. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think the Orange man is bad, well what

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<v Speaker 1>about the bloke who's got the top mansion in the

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<v Speaker 1>next little while. All right, last one I want to

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<v Speaker 1>show you before I introduce Bob Caada, Matt Canavan and

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<v Speaker 1>Pauline Hanson, is I want to pick up on something

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<v Speaker 1>one of my colleagues and friends, Andrew Bolt did on

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<v Speaker 1>his show tonight, and it will be the first question

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<v Speaker 1>to all of you this evening, which is did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that people who are not Australian citizens can vote

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<v Speaker 1>in Australian elections? Believe it or not, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>case at state and local government level, depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>you are, someone who is not a citizen in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>can vote in an election. He's Andrew explaining it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll ask our mavericks tonight what they think of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you something amazing. We actually let non citizens

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<v Speaker 5>vote in elections here to choose who runs out some

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<v Speaker 5>of our capital cities at Melbourne and Hobart and Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 5>even students from communist China can come and vote in

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<v Speaker 5>those elections and in some other council elections. Even more

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<v Speaker 5>extraordinary is the now I said it was more likely

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<v Speaker 5>than not the Chinese students had actually managed to elect

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<v Speaker 5>another former Chinese student to the Adelaide Council, this guy

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<v Speaker 5>Ling Gi. Can you imagine China ever letting an Australian

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<v Speaker 5>stand in an election for one of its cities and

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<v Speaker 5>for other Australians to vote them in? Have we left

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<v Speaker 5>ourselves wide open to interference foreign interferes?

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing reporting from Andrew bolt tonight, and to answer that

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<v Speaker 1>in a whole bunch more questions. I love them. They're mavericks,

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<v Speaker 1>they're free thinkers, and they don't give U stuff what

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else thinks, which is why we love them. Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. Matt Canavan from the lymp the One and

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<v Speaker 1>Only Pauline Hanson, Bob Tatter from Tatter's ASTRADI your party,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well we'll just go from left to right,

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<v Speaker 1>right to left, depending on which way it is on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen or how you feel about the world. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you. How the hell is a person

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<v Speaker 1>who is not a citizen of our country allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>vote in any election in our country?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>It seems like news to me obviously, though we did

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<v Speaker 9>have a parliament a few years ago when a few

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<v Speaker 9>people didn't realize there were citizens of another country, including myself,

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<v Speaker 9>was at risk there for a while, so I have

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<v Speaker 9>to play guilty of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, I don't think that's something it should happen.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it sounds like there's only a few people

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<v Speaker 9>those so it's probably not material.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, why do we have that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Paullen, why do we have it? And

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<v Speaker 1>is it a surprise to you?

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<v Speaker 7>It's people who.

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<v Speaker 10>Came in in the country, basically from Britain that came

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<v Speaker 10>out to Australia and they're regarded as citizens who can vote.

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<v Speaker 10>So it's up to about I think nineteen eighty four

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<v Speaker 10>that if you actually write before then you can actually

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<v Speaker 10>vote in Australia after that period of time, if you're

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<v Speaker 10>permanent resident now know you can't. What I do know

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<v Speaker 10>is that in South Australia, the council there that you

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<v Speaker 10>don't have to be a resident of Australia. Foreign students

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<v Speaker 10>can actually vote if you've got a visa into the country.

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<v Speaker 7>For about three.

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<v Speaker 10>Months you were entireed to vote in the council elections

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<v Speaker 10>in South Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>So what is happening. A scam is going on.

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<v Speaker 10>A lot of these students are being scammed for the

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<v Speaker 10>vote and it's been rooted. So I brought it to

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<v Speaker 10>the tension of my member of parliament there to actually

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<v Speaker 10>do something about it. I've spoken about it on the

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<v Speaker 10>Florida Parliament that nothing's happened.

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<v Speaker 7>Yet we're going to force the issue. Paul, it's not right.

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<v Speaker 1>How did we get you.

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<v Speaker 6>We've a legislation that if you want to be a

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<v Speaker 6>public servant in Australia working for Australians, then you will

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<v Speaker 6>take an oath of allegiance to Australia. The Foreign Affairs

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<v Speaker 6>Department issued instructions that there would be no Australian flags

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<v Speaker 6>anywhere in their offices. Now, when I rang her up,

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<v Speaker 6>she said, oh no, we didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like me to read out what you actually

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<v Speaker 2>sent out to everybody?

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<v Speaker 6>As far as I'm concerned, if you want a job

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<v Speaker 6>working for Australian people, and you'll take an oath of

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<v Speaker 6>allegiance to this country. And if you're not prepared to

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<v Speaker 6>become an Australian as soon as you get here and

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<v Speaker 6>you don't vote, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So thank you guys. Appreciated not without Notif

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it here, then none of the questions. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that if we've got Cheryl here, Cheryl, come

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<v Speaker 1>on down, my friend, you get a chance to ask

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<v Speaker 1>our Mavericks. Of course very mainstream to us, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know to left he's there, just frightened of such common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your question, my friend? And thanks for coming on tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you. I just like to ask, how do you

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<v Speaker 7>think the cost of living needs to be dealt with? Pauline?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, paul All of you will get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>answer as well, but we'll start with Pauling. Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 10>Deal with the climate change BS that's been foisted on

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<v Speaker 10>to the Australian people. It's the coast of living has

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<v Speaker 10>been driven by the high cost of electricity, so it

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<v Speaker 10>affects the farming sector, the industry is manufacturing, and the

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<v Speaker 10>normal household.

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<v Speaker 7>We have driven up the cost of electricity That's why insflation.

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<v Speaker 10>Also, the fact is there's the government cannot control their

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<v Speaker 10>Their spending has driven up from six hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 10>when it took over from the coalis And government up

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<v Speaker 10>to a trillion dollars now and over the next year

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<v Speaker 10>and a half it will be driven up to one

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<v Speaker 10>point two trillion dollars in debt that we have. It's overspending.

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<v Speaker 10>They can't manage the country. They're absolutely bloody hopeless. As

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<v Speaker 10>far as I'm concerned, this government needs to go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, bab cost a living catter Australia Party, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you deal with it?

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<v Speaker 6>The markup on food from a basket dividers we took

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<v Speaker 6>is two hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one hundred percent when.

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<v Speaker 6>Wolworths and Coals had sixty eight and seventy two percent.

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<v Speaker 6>No country in the world has the concentration of market

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<v Speaker 6>power that Wilworsts and Coals have in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Whilst you got.

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<v Speaker 6>Two people to sell food to two people to buy

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<v Speaker 6>it off, you're going to get screwed, and you're getting

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<v Speaker 6>screwed on a grand scale.

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<v Speaker 2>My potato farmers.

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<v Speaker 6>Get paid ninety cents, You pay three dollars ninety five.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for the humble potato fuel.

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<v Speaker 6>Brazil one of the most advanced industrial companies in the

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<v Speaker 6>countries in the world. Now Brazil is filling up their

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<v Speaker 6>petrol tanks for a dollar nine cents. You're filling up

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<v Speaker 6>for a dollar ninety one because they get ethanol and

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<v Speaker 6>you haven't. And also you buy all your fuel from overseas.

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<v Speaker 6>Every leader of fuel comes from overseas. In ninety ninety two,

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<v Speaker 6>with self fission fuel and finally electricity, I was the

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<v Speaker 6>energy minister. There is no justification for one thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 6>a year and three thousand, three hundred dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>What did they do?

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<v Speaker 6>They gave themselves twelve hundred dollars a year. The government

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<v Speaker 6>taxes your electricity for twelve hundred dollars and then to

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<v Speaker 6>save the planet they charge you another.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirteen hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>So there you go, one fuel, food and electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>There's massive savings for a government that's a.

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<v Speaker 6>The right thing by their people, and that is not

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<v Speaker 6>happening now.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff, Matt Trent to see if a lot of teaqub.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>Cheryl's the most important issue for any Australian and something

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<v Speaker 9>has broken in the last few years. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 9>agree with Bob about the role of Colson Wilwors. That's

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<v Speaker 9>why we've said we will impose or change our competition

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<v Speaker 9>laws to have our vesti laws for the first time.

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<v Speaker 9>But Coles and Woolworths didn't start just price gouging the

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<v Speaker 9>last few years, right, That's not what's changed. Something really

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<v Speaker 9>has changed in the last few years where now you

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<v Speaker 9>can't get a cheeseburger McDonald's less than five dollars. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>what has happened to this country? Why how price is

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<v Speaker 9>so high just in the last few years. Has two

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<v Speaker 9>main factors. Pauline's touched on them, But I just want

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<v Speaker 9>to build down on the spending or on the government

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<v Speaker 9>spending Cheryl. Since COVID, we've gone from spending about four

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<v Speaker 9>hundred and seventy seven billion dollars a year of your

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<v Speaker 9>money in Canberra. Now after COVID, we're up to seven

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<v Speaker 9>hundred and seventy eight billion dollars a year in Camera.

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<v Speaker 9>Three hundred billion dollars a year extra every year is

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<v Speaker 9>being spent in Camera now on a household basis, that's

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<v Speaker 9>thirty thousand dollars a year extra being spent for all

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<v Speaker 9>of you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the kind of debt.

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<v Speaker 9>So trillion dollars sounds like a big figure, but it's

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<v Speaker 9>thirty thousand dollars every household extra being spent. This is

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<v Speaker 9>not sustainable. We have to have to scale that back.

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<v Speaker 9>And then the other thing is the energy. We just

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<v Speaker 9>lost control of this. We've walked away from cheap coal

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<v Speaker 9>fired power, that's our cheap energy source. We've shut those

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<v Speaker 9>cold fire powerstations down. Price has gone up, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>over this campaign it's a five week campaign, right, China's

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<v Speaker 9>building two cold fire powerstations a week, so they're going

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<v Speaker 9>to open ten coal fire powerstations while we're all debating

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<v Speaker 9>about doing more batteries, wind and solar.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a joke and it needs to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady yet, all right, Loving three, your mate, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for watching your questions for the team. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with Matt and will work our way down.

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<v Speaker 11>Matte, what's what do you think is the best way

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<v Speaker 11>to reduce the budget deficit given that we're just not

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<v Speaker 11>living within our moons.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, if you look at what's growing over these past

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<v Speaker 9>few years, as I just mentioned the figures, the big

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<v Speaker 9>growth has been in social security and in way for it,

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<v Speaker 9>green energy schemes, so on the ladder. One's easy, right,

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<v Speaker 9>latter of one they just need to go. And it's

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<v Speaker 9>probably how it hasn't got the attention that deserves in

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<v Speaker 9>this election. But we have committed to ending the ridiculous

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<v Speaker 9>fourteen billion dollars we're spending on hydrogen projects.

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<v Speaker 3>They've all failed, they've all failed, eight.

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<v Speaker 9>Of them have fallen over in the last year, and

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<v Speaker 9>yet we're wasting your money on this pipe dream that labor.

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<v Speaker 9>Still they won't mention it much anymore because it's an

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<v Speaker 9>absolute failure. End that we've committed to doing that, So

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<v Speaker 9>we will reduce the.

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<v Speaker 3>Budget deficit in that way.

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<v Speaker 9>And the other one, of course, has to be a

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<v Speaker 9>proper look at the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a worthwhile scheme.

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<v Speaker 9>I fully support helping those people who are disabled, but

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<v Speaker 9>I refuse to believe that one in ten young boys

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<v Speaker 9>in this country need government assistance. It's not rightly set

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<v Speaker 9>up right now, and that's another big growth item that

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<v Speaker 9>needs to be looked at.

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<v Speaker 1>Halleen Paulleen about that specifically, that budget deficit. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that structurally it's there for the next not ten but

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<v Speaker 1>forty years.

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<v Speaker 10>It is under the One Nation policy which we released

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<v Speaker 10>in February is to reduce the budget by ninety billion

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<v Speaker 10>a year and it is to get rid of the

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<v Speaker 10>Climate Change Department and that will save thirty billion a year.

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<v Speaker 10>This is all being cost Paul, where the only political

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<v Speaker 10>party wants to get out of the Paris Agreement and

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<v Speaker 10>then common sense to run our own country and not

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<v Speaker 10>letting foreign investors or the other people making profits out

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<v Speaker 10>of us. That the demise of many Australians and rising

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<v Speaker 10>cost of electricity. Also, it can be tackled with the

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<v Speaker 10>Educational Apartment duplication in the States. Those states should be

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<v Speaker 10>handling education ndis. Yes, we are targeting that six hundred

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<v Speaker 10>and sixty thousand people on NDS at the moment forty

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<v Speaker 10>five billion dollars expected rise about ninety to one hundred

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<v Speaker 10>billion by twenty thirty thirty two. As well, we want

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<v Speaker 10>to do a have an investigation audit into the Aboriginal industry,

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<v Speaker 10>which I've been talking.

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<v Speaker 7>About for the last twenty nine thirty years.

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<v Speaker 10>Of bign Minister's Some cabinet gives the niAA four point

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<v Speaker 10>five billion a year, the other departments their grants is

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<v Speaker 10>eleven billion from another government departments and also another twelve

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<v Speaker 10>and a half billion.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no accountability for this.

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<v Speaker 10>You've got three thousand Aboriginal corporations out there. They receive royalties,

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<v Speaker 10>they don't pay tax and royalties.

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<v Speaker 7>This country has been taken over and it's wrong and

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<v Speaker 7>we need to and if I ever do.

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<v Speaker 10>Anything before I'm out of politics, is to treat everyone

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<v Speaker 10>equally on a needs basis, not race, and get.

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<v Speaker 7>Rid of this division that's happened in our country throughout racism.

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<v Speaker 1>At Tonia wants you to think for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>seconds about what you would do when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the deficit. But Bob Katter, how would you deal with

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<v Speaker 1>what he's now going to be ten years and then

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<v Speaker 1>forty in the long term. No.

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<v Speaker 6>I come out of a government that ran massive deficits.

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<v Speaker 6>We spent three thousand million in one year just coming

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<v Speaker 6>back thirty years and our entire budget was three thousand million.

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<v Speaker 6>It was spent on building the biggest power station in

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<v Speaker 6>the world, which was.

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<v Speaker 2>Fueled by free coal. We took the coal where they

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<v Speaker 2>liked it or night for free.

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<v Speaker 6>And we're the chiefs dilectricty in the world and we

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<v Speaker 6>got the biggest stadium minium state producing in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>In return for that, we were building a dam every year.

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<v Speaker 6>And one thousand kilometers of rail to open up mines,

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<v Speaker 6>which we opened up a massive mind every eight or

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<v Speaker 6>nine months. We're opening up a new mind that hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>been a new mine opened in Queensland in.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty two years.

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<v Speaker 3>I played a bit of a role in that brownded

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<v Speaker 3>the Night opened just a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>I take that back because he's right about the Dani mine.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes people like myself from hud Rock Mining, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about coal in that seat. Please, you've had yours,

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<v Speaker 2>say you have myself right.

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<v Speaker 6>Our political party will build a relay line if we

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<v Speaker 6>get the balance of power. I'm sure into the Galilee

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<v Speaker 6>and open up the Galilee, which will double coal production.

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<v Speaker 1>In the state.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry to mister Canavan, but his party is keeping

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<v Speaker 6>that tax, and that tax means that all marginal minds

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<v Speaker 6>will close, no new minds will open, and as the

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<v Speaker 6>old minds run out of coal, we're closing down the industry.

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<v Speaker 6>Now the Liberal Party in Queensland telling their waking back benches,

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<v Speaker 6>look mate, it's going to close down.

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<v Speaker 2>See with that tax there to close down.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, and there's public Oh, we would never do anything

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<v Speaker 6>close down the coal industry when you, in fact are

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<v Speaker 6>closing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, you're keeping that charge in there.

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<v Speaker 6>And look, honestly, I just reached a stage in my

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<v Speaker 6>life where I'm sick and tired of hypocrisy and I

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<v Speaker 6>just get it every day and it just makes me

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<v Speaker 6>madd and matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not as well advanced in seniority as you,

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<v Speaker 1>good self, but I feel it every day too. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>You're amongst friends in that feeling, Matt. You're responds to

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<v Speaker 1>that though, I mean, let's respond to that. Obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland state matters versus Federal Party all the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>it here. But what's your thoughts about how an incoming

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<v Speaker 1>LNP government would either be able to better negotiate with

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland to get rid of it, or to do something

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<v Speaker 1>to override it.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, look, I mean it is a state issue, as

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<v Speaker 9>you say, Paulie ellen Cley just up the road across

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<v Speaker 9>the border have been elected not to change the color

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<v Speaker 9>royalties in Queensland, so they won't be doing that. I

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<v Speaker 9>believe governments should stick to their promises. They're elected on

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<v Speaker 9>their promise and I won't ask a government to break

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<v Speaker 9>a promise with people that they've been elected on. So

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<v Speaker 9>that's the reality of that. There does need to be

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<v Speaker 9>a look at that over time. The big issue there

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<v Speaker 9>is the thresholds haven't been changed for years, yet costs

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<v Speaker 9>have gone up enormously. What would be good is if

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<v Speaker 9>we can get the cost back down. So the cost

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<v Speaker 9>of mining a ton of coal now in Queensland is

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<v Speaker 9>for often well over one hundred dollars a ton with

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<v Speaker 9>a higher royalty's crick kick in. It used to be

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<v Speaker 9>seventy or eighty dollars a ton. It's gone up a

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<v Speaker 9>lot just the last few years. Energy is a big deal,

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<v Speaker 9>red tapees a big deal, and those are the things

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<v Speaker 9>the federal government can try and fix to bring those

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<v Speaker 9>costs down, and the royalties might matter as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Tony question was about the deficit. What would you

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<v Speaker 1>do if you could be Prime minister for twelve hours

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<v Speaker 1>and you can have a half of a hilltop home somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you do with the deficit.

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<v Speaker 11>I think we just need to try and cut expenses

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<v Speaker 11>and some of the areas that the National Party we're

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<v Speaker 11>talking about was cutting the expenses in camera, cutting the

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<v Speaker 11>public service back to the bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good stuff, Tony, appreciate it all right now

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to our next question here, Pauline, your

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful and wonderful daughter Lee is running for the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>in Tasmania. Bob, your boy Robbie is kicking backside in

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<v Speaker 1>Bricebane as the leader of the canter Australian Party. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>if one of your kids comes to you and says, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming for your Senate spot, would you want a

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<v Speaker 1>second Canavan in the garden.

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<v Speaker 9>I'd love my kids do whatever they want to do.

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<v Speaker 9>I do encourage young people to get involved in politics.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's a noble pursuit. So if they want

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<v Speaker 9>to do it, great, But kids at the moment are

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<v Speaker 9>riches in other things. One's launching rockets all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>And good on him. We need more people do on

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<v Speaker 3>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Bob, what's your advice to Pauline about letting your

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<v Speaker 1>kid in have their own political identity, Because obviously that's

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of questions that come when Lee's The first question

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<v Speaker 1>is bleeze about mum. Question Mum is about about Lee?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your advice to her? If there's another generation who

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<v Speaker 1>want to take on a party. I said to mine,

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<v Speaker 1>she's taking notes.

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<v Speaker 6>I said to my son, who had no knowledge of

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<v Speaker 6>anything in life except rugby league a contract with the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 6>I said, if you ever feel.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to do something, because your name is Katta,

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<v Speaker 2>I will kill you. I will personally kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so, Pauline, if you said that to Lee, how

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<v Speaker 1>would she go?

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<v Speaker 7>No, she wanted to kill me because I wanted her

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<v Speaker 7>to go on in the politics.

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<v Speaker 1>She's none.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw everything that she went through. Why would I

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<v Speaker 7>want to put myself through it? And that was a

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<v Speaker 7>few years ago. But the fact is that now she's

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<v Speaker 7>had her two children of her own.

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<v Speaker 10>She says the issues that are happening in Tasmania, she says,

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<v Speaker 10>I can't sit back and not do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 10>So she's got the passion dedication. Don't underestimate my daughter.

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<v Speaker 10>They underestimated me, and guess what, I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 1>They have all read yeah, funny for one nation in Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 1>That that you can hear in the background, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is not here at the venue. It's the sounds of

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<v Speaker 1>heads exploding. At The Guardian, writing about watching tonight's program

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<v Speaker 1>here on Sky News. All right, I've got Meghan. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are you, my friend? Come on down? Holdo, dun't it?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the question that you would like to ask

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<v Speaker 1>this wonderful group of people.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, please explain.

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<v Speaker 12>So it's too why we must pull out of the

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<v Speaker 12>Paris Agreement and twenty fifty net zero target and how

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<v Speaker 12>do you believe that it's affecting our cost of living?

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<v Speaker 1>Good on you mate? All right Paul in Paris, you've

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<v Speaker 1>already said you want out?

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<v Speaker 3>Why yes, I have, because.

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<v Speaker 10>We're the silly buggers that are signed up to it,

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<v Speaker 10>and no, the other countries have signed up to it

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<v Speaker 10>aren't going down the pulling back on their emissions. We

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<v Speaker 10>put out one percent of missions out in the whole world.

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<v Speaker 10>It's supposed to be global, but we're actually not. And

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<v Speaker 10>we're bound to it by the government'spent holding us to

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<v Speaker 10>the emissions trading that we're doing at the moment and

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<v Speaker 10>reducing the missions is actually costing us our country to

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<v Speaker 10>go down the bloody drain our ways life, our standard

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<v Speaker 10>living dimlitious.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it is putting so much pressure on our country.

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<v Speaker 10>Get out of the Powis Agreement, get rid of the

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<v Speaker 10>climate change bis teach our kids in their educational system

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<v Speaker 10>critical thinking. Let them have both sides for the argument

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<v Speaker 10>to make up their mind. I'm sick of these kids

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<v Speaker 10>being told they're coming to the world's coming to an end.

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<v Speaker 10>I'll tell everyone out of you, you're more likely to

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<v Speaker 10>die from lack of operations and the medical attension and

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<v Speaker 10>medication that you need rather than the will coming to

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<v Speaker 10>a bloody.

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<v Speaker 7>End, because it's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 10>So we need to do this and you get rid

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<v Speaker 10>of this rubbish, this climate change zalance that are out

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<v Speaker 10>there people making a lot of money out of the

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<v Speaker 10>expense of the Australian people, and people need to wake

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<v Speaker 10>up to themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>We have to get rid of this climate change.

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<v Speaker 10>Countries now that head it down this track, there's Germany,

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<v Speaker 10>France and other countries and Canada and all the rest

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<v Speaker 10>of it, and China and Japan and making the culvide

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<v Speaker 10>power stations which we support, build new coal fired power

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<v Speaker 10>stations ninety percent emissions free the coal that we have.

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<v Speaker 10>Instead of shipping it overseas and news now.

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<v Speaker 7>Clean coal, we mouse it for ourselves. Reduce the energy,

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<v Speaker 7>the passive energy.

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<v Speaker 10>In the square, start our industry and manufacturing, give the

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<v Speaker 10>people of this country hope for the future, because if

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<v Speaker 10>we don't, I want people in the one generation to

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<v Speaker 10>come and if we don't change it, we will be

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<v Speaker 10>a third world nation like Argentina went all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, good on you, Megan, thank you, Matt response, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Bobbles, well, thank we Well.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, I remember had some people come into my office

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<v Speaker 9>a few years ago and try and convince me that

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<v Speaker 9>we should sign up to the Paris or something and

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<v Speaker 9>zero missions, and I heard them out. I'm very respectful,

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<v Speaker 9>and I just turned them and said do you trust China?

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<v Speaker 9>And they sort of are gobsmack to bit, And you know,

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<v Speaker 9>no one really can answer that question with a yes

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<v Speaker 9>with a straight face, right. It's like, well, ultimately, if

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 9>we're to do this, we have to trust the other

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 9>countries we're doing it with, because if they leech on

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<v Speaker 9>the deal, if they squelch squelch on it, we will

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 9>be left far behind. And because the Elvis answer that

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 9>question is no, I don't trust the Chinese comments party.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, they can't be trusted. We can't sign up

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<v Speaker 9>to this agreement. It's as simple as that, we've seen

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<v Speaker 9>the real world effects of this in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 9>Did anyone see that should advertise other shows on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 3>You should usually be watching Sky News.

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<v Speaker 9>But there was a great documentary on Channel seven the

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 9>other night about it industry. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, okay,

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 9>you give credit where Yeah, I've heard of Chris Olmond

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 9>did a great one too, and that zero should check

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 9>out as well. But so so, China has built could

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 9>fire power stations in Indonesia. They've undercut our nickel industry,

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<v Speaker 9>a very proud industry we established back in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>sixties with the world's largest nickel exporter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the little dead what's three thousand.

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<v Speaker 9>Jobs in this country because we're silly enough to think

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 9>that the Tesla boy and customers of Europe would go

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 9>for the green energy nickel that we were producing at

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 9>high cost and not the the so called dirty, cheap

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 9>black nickel produced by Chinese finance coal mines in Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what they did.

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<v Speaker 9>They bought the Indonesia nickel. And we've lost three thousand jobs.

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<v Speaker 9>Now that's just the start of it. If we keep

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.479
<v Speaker 9>doing this, we'll keep losing and manufacturing industries will lose

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 9>ability to make steel. We'se a copper industry that Bob

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 9>defends up there in the northwest of Queensland, and suddenly

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 9>we will no longer be able not just to make things.

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>We were able to defend ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob, you get the last a on this one before

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>we head off field. Great pape Again about.

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<v Speaker 6>My background, it's mining. I was prospected workman minds. There's

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<v Speaker 6>Friday Ma mining company Foreignto Parliament. My background is mining.

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<v Speaker 6>We can't process copper because we can't afford that electricity.

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<v Speaker 6>We can't, are you many, It's doomed, it's cajealed electricity.

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<v Speaker 6>The plant in Townsville, they're trying to do something, but

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>again the cost of electricity will cripple and kill them.

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<v Speaker 6>The fertilizer plant, which I'm desperately trying. We really don't

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 6>produce any fertilizer much at all in Australia, and yet

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 6>we've got the largest phosphate deposits.

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<v Speaker 1>In the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But the gas is all foreign owned.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm sorry to say that the Liverpool Party and

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 6>the Lave Party gave all of our gas away for

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<v Speaker 6>six cents a unit and we have to buy it

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<v Speaker 6>back at sixteen dollars sixty Well, good on Peter Dunton

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<v Speaker 6>for saying he's bringing it down to ten dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sorry, Peter, the Russians are getting it for

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>The big fertilizer voice from the block, the United States,

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<v Speaker 6>the big fertilized boys, they're getting it for five dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>So good on your pete from bringing it down to ten.

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<v Speaker 6>But unless it comes down to five, we can't compete.

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<v Speaker 6>Reserved resource policy was the heart and soul of the

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<v Speaker 6>Country Party, the party that I belonged to all on

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 6>my life that was died and was killed and was

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<v Speaker 6>gone on. But the return of reserved resource policy and giving.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's our gas and we can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Produce itserve it because we can't.

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<v Speaker 6>You said you're going to reserve it and you'll bring

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<v Speaker 6>it down to ten dollars, and I praise you greatly

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 6>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Please understand I appraise you, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I can do that, no matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like you to listen instead of talking, right, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like you to listen because.

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<v Speaker 6>What I said was, if you're bringing it down to

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<v Speaker 6>ten dollars, our competitors are on five. So there's not

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 6>much point in bringing it down to ten dollars if

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 6>we're going to close every industry because everyone's getting it

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 6>for five dollars. Now, we at reserve resource policy and

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 6>we need that with aggression and with determination or it's

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 6>our it's our resource that.

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<v Speaker 9>We just got, right, don't we break down to two?

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<v Speaker 9>Where do you get five dollars from Bob? I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>the problem is we don't produce oil anymore. Russia produces oil,

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 9>America produces oil. What they can sell gas for those

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 9>cheap prices. You can't ask a company to sell something

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<v Speaker 9>for less than the cost to produce. And the cost

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 9>of production in Australia for gas is high now because

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 9>we ban fracking all over the place. We don't allow

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 9>oil expiration to occur, and that's why the cost production

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 9>is high.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we'll bring it down to as low as we can,

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 3>but without oil production, we're not going to get those

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 3>sort of prices.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm going to jump.

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<v Speaker 6>My advice is that you can produce gas in Australia

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<v Speaker 6>for three cents a unit, not.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten dollars, like a lot of money a unit.

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<v Speaker 6>You put a hole in the ground and the gas

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 6>comes out and cost a lot on your might be

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 6>it's a bit more gets here.

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<v Speaker 1>In a debate with breaking out. There'll be more in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, including a question that is genuinely going to

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>stunt these guys more than a second. Youre on Paul

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Murray Live. Welcome back the Mighty Seagulls Club. Here in

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>tween Heads. We've got the Mavericks in Australian politics, Bob,

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Pauline Hanson and our great friend Bat Canavan here. It

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>is a whole collection of questions from good people who

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>watch the show, watch the channel, and want the opportunity

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to be here. Of course, all of you are Queenslanders.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for taking the giant leap ten kilometers past

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the border of Queensland for est I do appreciate it.

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Here all right, now we've got Darren Darren, Yeah, you're

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>probably going to redraw the barrier at some point. All right,

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>give us an idea. What's your question?

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<v Speaker 13>Thanks, Paul. What's something unique that sets you apart from

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<v Speaker 13>the others? Now, he was saying, the others at this table,

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 13>all other candidates. It's more fun if you say this,

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 13>tak Yeah, here we go. We'll go to the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know in many ways, what sets you out Pauline.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think we're all pretty much the same.

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<v Speaker 10>Do we say what we think, and I've got the

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<v Speaker 10>guts to say what a lot of people thinking but

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 10>won't say it.

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<v Speaker 7>But the fact is, you've got to be true to yourself.

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<v Speaker 10>And I get fed up with a lot of these

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 10>politicians that will tell the public something, do different on

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 10>the floor of Parliament and there's no accountability. So people

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 10>must be held to account for what they say and

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 10>what they do, and I think that's very important.

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<v Speaker 7>People don't trust politicians anymore.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 10>They're sick of all with rebel that comes out of

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 10>their mouth, especially the election time, and they want people

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 10>that speak the truth. Just tell us exactly the way

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 10>you think, the way you're going to vote, and I

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<v Speaker 10>think that's what people want out of their representatives.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob, with all of that nodding, party, merger, party merger,

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>what stands out for you? How do you stand out

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>from one nation?

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 6>And the Olympic I come out of it was called developmentalism.

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 6>You know, we borrowed money to build great assets for

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 6>our nation and we were very successful at it. And

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm very much driven by that same developmentalism. The greatest

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 6>engineer in Australia in history, Doctor Bradfield said, take a

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 6>little bit of water where it rains all the time,

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 6>and the electorate I represent.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 2>One hundred of rainfall. A little tiny bit of that water,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>send it.

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 6>Out west and we can be the greatest agricultural nation

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 6>on earth. That great man built Sydney of a bridge,

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 6>built Sydney's water supply, built the University of Queensland. I

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 6>don't know how many things he built, and the most

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 6>famous for was what he didn't built Bradfield scheme. And

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 6>it was announced by Malcolm Fraser's government and the Jockie

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 6>Pederson's government, and it was unannounced by the incoming labor

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 6>government the next year. Sadly, so it's it's there now.

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 6>As you say, what is what drives me? Stand cost

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 6>up Slim Dusty describes the greatest wordsmith in the English language,

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 6>and I'd agree with Slim. He said, I wonder if

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 6>the ghosts of the fallen can see the crime and

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 6>corruption and vast poverty. I lost generation of youth on

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 6>the doll a drift on lie stations without any goal.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 6>I once had a dream, my country's so grand where

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 6>the rivers are back. You're a gage of the land

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 6>with jams and canals and that waste land out there

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 6>and beginland cities with work everywhere. Then I went from

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 6>dreaming to reality. Australia's wealth goes over the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>Very well, Matt, what a program, Paul.

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>You've had a bit of beer for a bit of poetry.

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving us. Good Night Monday Night, and that's what

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we love it.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>That was wonderful from Bob.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Look, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I never thought i'd be here. You know, sometimes I

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 9>do think I'm in that movie where you go. You know,

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 9>you're probably wondering how I got here, And I don't know.

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how I got here. I never really

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 3>thought i'd do this.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 9>And I grew up just the road and logan, no

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.439
<v Speaker 9>political family, and sort of fell into things by working

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 9>for different people. And so look, I've never really held

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 9>it that closely. We're asked, but that closely. If it

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 9>all ends tomorrow, I'd be very very happy, man. I

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.399
<v Speaker 9>could go back to the five kids and my wife

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 9>spent all my time with them. Uh and and maybe

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 9>get back to work in my golf game. And so

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 9>I don't know how Donald Trump does he plays a

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 9>lot of golf, doesn't it.

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I never get to play golf, but Jewish occasional playing golf.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 9>But I think because it's a great honor to serve

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 9>Queensland and represent you all or most of you hear

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 9>from Queensland, and and I just try and make sure

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 9>that I do everything that I can do to leave

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 9>that thinking. I haven't left it on the playing field.

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 9>So when I crossed the floor, and I think I

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 9>might across the floor more times than Barnaby Joyce. Now

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 9>I've got to tell it up when I did it.

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 9>When when I did it, we voted, vated. I voted

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 9>on the vaccine. Man, it's I moved the man on

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 9>the vaccine. I moved the man as well.

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I just I think the problem is Okay, that's a

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 3>good question. So one should ask that question, why don't

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 3>I join one nation?

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, because the only person in the next twelve months

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 9>that can control the ridiculous migration of coming to this

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 9>country is Peter Dunt exact.

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I love you, Pauline, I love you Bobby

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 3>the Great.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 9>Both wonderful institutions in our Australian political system, but neither

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 9>of you can control the border that only the Prime

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 9>Minister can do that with his pen and change the regulation.

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 9>And I think it's ridiculous that under this government, every

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 9>forty four seconds someone's arriving in this country during this

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 9>program tonight, eighty people will turn up. There's no houses

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 9>for them and there's no new hospitals being built for them,

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 9>and we're all paying the price for that. And so

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 9>the only person that can change that's Peter Dune and

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 9>that's why I support him, and that's why I want

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 9>to change of government in again.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 3>In three weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll get you up from Paul. It might be that

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.479
<v Speaker 6>I might be in a more powerful position than Peter

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 6>Dutton in three weeks time.

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<v Speaker 2>Share about that one, Matt personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me.

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me continue.

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<v Speaker 6>No, there's nearly half a million people coming into Australia

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 6>every year. Now, you know you want some sort of

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 6>integration factor, I would think, right. Do they come from democracies?

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Do they come from countries through law?

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>They come from Christianity countries.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Do they come from countries with industrial awards?

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Do they come from countries with egalitarian traditions?

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 6>I have said to Darton, just stop immigration, just stop it.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 6>And start again, please please, Now, ninety two percent of

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:38.959
<v Speaker 6>them that come.

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>In the last twelve years, effectively.

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 6>Almost all ninety two percent with the capital cities, but

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 6>almost all of them went to Sydney and Melbourne. There's

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 6>no jobs in Sydney Melbourne. All factories have closed down,

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 6>all processing plants have gone.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>So what are they doing there? Are there living in

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 2>little ethnic.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 6>Colonies that I think they hate us. I don't think

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 6>they'll ever become Australians. So I'm just saying stop, stop

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 6>and start again. Otherwise this country is going to be

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 6>drowned under a flood of people that really don't have

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 6>the values that we have.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But a little pushback on that. I don't know the

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>exact geography, but a couple of seats up, a couple

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.720
<v Speaker 1>of seats down from where you sit as an independent

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.240
<v Speaker 1>in the Parliament is dialegu right, a person who literally

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>would wear the Australian flag and is a person who

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>represents a community that has got a very significant Vietnamese

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.280
<v Speaker 1>community in it. So let's get to that day after

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the election. Let's imagine it all comes down to he

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>needs this being the Prime minister, he needs five or

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>he needs one. The shopping list that you've talked about before.

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Is an albow going to say that, yes, that know that,

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe how do you force him to do the thing

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to do as a way of getting

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>your support.

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Look, I had to say this, but the Liberal leader,

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I won't mention his name.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 6>He agreed to a whole lot of things and really,

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 6>looking back on it, he had absolutely no interest in

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 6>delivering on any of those things.

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 3>So you're going to pick Elbot.

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, are you talking about in this parliament in

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the twenty ten negotiation?

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about ages ago. But really the situation in.

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 6>The parliament has been reasonably close now for about a

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 6>decade and I'm inclined to think that they will increase.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 6>Neither of the major parties were able to get thirty

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 6>three percent last election outside of America send their constitution.

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 6>But outside America, I don't know of any two party

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 6>systems left very Japan doesn't have them, India doesn't have them,

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 6>France doesn't have them.

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean what country on.

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 6>Earth does have But you can do party system, but

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 6>if it's not enough, it's outdated.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 2>And Pauline and I represent a different wave.

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you've got to pick Albo or Dunton. What's

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 1>your methodology for which way you go? Is the most

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.439
<v Speaker 1>number of seats, the most number of votes, the bloke

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you like the most. Give me an idea, because if

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it does come down to you, you are going to

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>be more powerful an you one in this room.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I love my country Australia.

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 6>I love my country Australia, and I think a few

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 6>people would question that I'm very aggressive. It may be

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 6>a little excessive in that, but I have been elected

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 6>to serve the people of North Queensland. We are sitting

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 6>there watching Brisbane give itself sixty two thousand million for

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.720
<v Speaker 6>an Olympic Games. When four hundred thousand of us were trapped.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Trapped, we lost four lives. If it had gone on

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>for another week, we had lost hundreds of lives. We

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>have no way of getting out. There are thirty six.

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 6>Kilometers of tunnels in Brisbane that they don't need, pleasure

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 6>and leisure dunnels.

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>We can't get one kilometer of tunnel.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 3>So my.

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:06.320
<v Speaker 6>My loyalty is to my people, and you give me

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 6>the best deal. And if Matt thinks that is mob

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 6>better from North Queensland, then he can confidently say I'll

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 6>be back in this month.

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 9>This mob have just shut down the live sheep industry, Bob.

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 9>They have shut down an entire Australian farming industry. I've

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 9>never it's never happened in our history. It's not getting

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 9>the coverage that deserves in this election campaign. The thousands

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 9>of WA farmers right now that are struggling and not

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 9>knowing what to do with the.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Future is because of the decision. It's government.

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 9>So I don't understand how someone from North Queensland. We

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 9>know the life cattle industr will be next. So that's

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 9>who'll be next on the chopping block. You can even

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 9>consider voting or supporting a mob that has just shut

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 9>down those poor Wa farmers over there, and your own,

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 9>your own producers, your own grazes could be next on

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 9>the wholl.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, what can I say that? You're one of the

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 2>best blakes in there, right, your terrific. But you make

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>a great prime minister, right, You're great.

0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 6>Not going to happen, Oh my god, don't come here

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 6>and mislead these people. Your deputy leader, Your deputy leader

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 6>is Susan lay Guess it moved for the abolition to

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 6>all live animals from Australia, Susan lay and she's your

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 6>deputy leader. But she did of hypocrisy here, a fairly

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 6>large scale one like that.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, I've gotta break. We'll be back in a second.

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>We'll go to lightning round in a moment or two time.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I promise you will get to you. He's got a

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 1>great question too. Plenty more from Seagulls to your tweet heads.

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>The mattericks happen. It's this on a Monday night. Welcome back.

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>We're at Seagulls Club here in tweeentheads. We are here

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>with the Mavericks in Australian politics, Paul in Heads and

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Bobcatta and Matt can Evan. All right, now we've got

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>less than five minutes. We've got about one hundred questions

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 1>but sixty second responses and only one question per person.

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But the crowd will choose who do you want to

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>answer the next question? Bob, Paul Leen or Matt? One? Two, three, Nathan,

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what's your question and I'll decide.

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thinking for an easy one.

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>If you could change, propose a referendum to change austraight

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>in anyway big or small, what would it be? Pulleen

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of things.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it's hard. Freedom of speech. We need to put

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 10>it into what our people. Freedom of speech for countries,

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 10>which I've tried to clean and it was down by

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 10>both the major political parties.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 7>I didn't get it up. I have put it up

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 7>to get freedom of speech in our constitution.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>All right. Now, who's Matt or Bob? Who gets the

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>next one? Matt, Matte or Bob. Well that means it's

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be Bob, because I know I know how

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this works. All right, Dion, where are you mate? Come

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>on down? Quick question? One minute answer? Thanks for turning up.

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 5>Guys, what would you What do you think needs to

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 5>be done to stop the hamorrhaging of small business in

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:00.760
<v Speaker 5>the country?

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>One minute, Bob Catter more minutes to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me just give you one specific We have moved

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<v Speaker 6>legislation for divestment of will Worths and Coals down to

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<v Speaker 6>twenty percent. That will create maybe two or three thousand

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<v Speaker 6>small businesses and give small businesses an opportunity to compete

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<v Speaker 6>against giants that have eighty or ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the Australian food market.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I can go on and give you other examples,

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<v Speaker 6>but they all run into that sort of category. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>from a small business, five generations a small business in Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>And also the tax system as it works militates very

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<v Speaker 6>badly against small businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>All right now, Glenn, your question is for Matt. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what is your question that what's the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that coalition could do right now to turn around

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<v Speaker 1>the election steer them into a real good soulid Win,

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<v Speaker 1>you know one minute, Matt, and you can't watching. Look.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's not time to change anything but to concentrate.

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<v Speaker 9>And the big thing that I think most young people

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<v Speaker 9>in particular, but everyone's worried about is what I spoke about,

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<v Speaker 9>is the level of migration.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the only party here.

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<v Speaker 9>We're the only party that is going to leave well okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 9>the only of the two parties, the two major parties

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<v Speaker 9>that are buying for the Prime ministership.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to migration.

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<v Speaker 9>We're have me see your involvements that are going to

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<v Speaker 9>lower They're going to lower the rate of migration if

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<v Speaker 9>we if Peter Dutton gets in, there'll be one hundred

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<v Speaker 9>thousand more homes available in the next few years than

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<v Speaker 9>if Anthony. And that's what we need to deliver and

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<v Speaker 9>that's why you need to vote for Peter.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen.

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<v Speaker 10>Ryan asked me to give this to you as an influencer,

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<v Speaker 10>and she wants.

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<v Speaker 8>You to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I'm a very good joker. Now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a lot of meetings tomorrow because we showed

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<v Speaker 1>that product of the television. It's terrible. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Give him a random a flause. That's why we're a matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't love your fall, don't love you the hob, don't

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<v Speaker 1>love your mate. Oh wow, that of course is chocolate, right, yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 1>just confirming. That's our shout for tonight. Thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much for what you've got. A good time tonight, plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of times. Thank you to everyone here at Seagulls. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how Alva always likes to hold up his

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<v Speaker 1>Medicare card, Well, this is my membership card to the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest club in Australia. I've been here for twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be here for one hundred more, well ten more,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, I look forward to it. See ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys for coming out La debait. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuy