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Speaker 1: Apod Jake production.

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Speaker 2: An emergency warning is in place for Stiglts near Saint

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Speaker 2: Helen's on the East Coast. People there are being worn

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Speaker 2: to leave immediately. Meg Whitfield, is it Foulmouth near Saint

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Speaker 3: Now, Meg, that's the news report I woke up to

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Speaker 3: one day last week. My first thing was to call

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Speaker 3: Jason and Amanda and check if they are okay. The

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Speaker 3: house they've painstakingly built themselves over the past eighteen months

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Speaker 3: is almost finished, and I was thinking it's sort of

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Speaker 3: been a real kick in the guard's given all they've

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Speaker 3: been through. Welcome to the final episode of Our Little

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Speaker 3: Lady for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It's across the bay, so we're probably Joe's. We're looking

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Speaker 4: across there and Jason's I said, I'm what's the fire

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Speaker 1: And he said, all right, kicking on and we'll continue working.

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Speaker 4: And we were, and then every probably ten minutes, Joseph

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Speaker 4: just sort of saying, how's that Spyre doing and looks

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Speaker 4: and I'm some, yeah, well it's growing.

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Speaker 1: And then it was kind of getting to where I

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Speaker 5: Well it changed the smoke.

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Speaker 6: It started to go from the cloudy white to the

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Speaker 1: And then heat in the bottom.

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Speaker 6: You could see heat coming out of it, and it

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Speaker 4: Literally said, hunh, I think we'd better go and check

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Speaker 4: on Justine's house because she's actually lives across the bay.

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Speaker 4: We thought we're head over, so we're going around the

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Speaker 4: bay and as we're curling around the bay, Justine calls

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Speaker 4: us and said, I've just got an alert saying that

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Speaker 4: I've got to evacuate, and we're like, we're on our

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Speaker 4: way right now because it's looking quite serious.

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Speaker 5: And we had the trailer on two, which was fortunate.

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Speaker 4: We'd already had Justine's dog because she's been away and

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Speaker 4: a fire, we want to collect something that's sentimental, especially

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Speaker 4: stuff that she received from Eden and when there was

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Speaker 4: a trio, a bit of defense.

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Speaker 1: Memorabilia that she's kept.

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Speaker 4: So we just loaded up what we could carry and

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Speaker 4: what was important to Justin because she's on the phone.

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Speaker 5: With it, and box of that under the bed.

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Speaker 6: We found that her house is still standing though we

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Speaker 6: know that Jay, we would like to get all the

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Speaker 6: stuff back, so I can get We've lost work because

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Speaker 6: we work up at Stiglitz.

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Speaker 1: The guests couldn't arrive, impacting.

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Speaker 6: In our finances this week. At the moment, we're hoping

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Speaker 6: they can open so we can get back to work

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Speaker 6: tomorrow because I've got a couple of jobs booked in

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Speaker 6: that I have to have done by well Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, mental being done this week.

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Speaker 1: So there has been a few buildings lost.

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Speaker 5: Helicopter's working today.

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Speaker 4: Jay, and they are doing a great job. I've got

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Speaker 4: to say the fieries. They've contained it to a certain extent.

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Speaker 3: On the first of December, the legislation that we've called

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Speaker 3: Eden's Law was passed. This allows families like the Westbrooks

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Speaker 3: which up until now was a massive stumbling block in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, history made ja.

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Speaker 1: It happened. As far as I'm aware.

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Speaker 4: A letter has been put in and received, and yes,

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Speaker 4: the request is I guess wait for twenty eight days

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Speaker 4: and they possibly will take that.

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Speaker 5: So this is a letter's gone.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure that the barrister had sent it from

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Speaker 3: Great, and so this is your new pro bono barrister

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Speaker 3: out of Melbourne King's Counsel.

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Speaker 5: Yes, his casey.

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Speaker 3: So that letter is asking for the coronial files, is

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Speaker 3: that right?

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Speaker 1: Everything?

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Speaker 6: And we also have asked if we're allowed to share

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Speaker 6: regulations as you're aware, Jay, on what we received which

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Speaker 6: we weren't allowed to share publicly all with you.

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Speaker 3: And that would then include doctor Barron Collins having a

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Speaker 6: If he's allowed, I would be pretty sure he would

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Speaker 5: He's written in there to receive.

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Speaker 1: It's always be very clear.

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Speaker 4: It's not been hidden that this man is viewing everything,

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Speaker 4: and it's a reason why we had to That's.

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Speaker 6: Why we've set it up so third party in spended

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Speaker 6: expert can you have a look and assess what their

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Speaker 4: That's why the rules have been changed, because what doesn't

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Speaker 6: And I say, I'm actually not confident that we'll get

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Speaker 6: it today after all these years, the fight and the

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Speaker 6: you know, they're stubbornness not to want to give us

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Speaker 6: these pictures for our independent expert Dr Byron Collins. You know,

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Speaker 6: they've really stood strong and firm against doing this. Now

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Speaker 6: there's obviously been a legislation for this to happen, but

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Speaker 6: I'm just not sure if they're going to be giving

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Speaker 6: still more of a challenge.

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Speaker 5: And that's just my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: That would be acting in bad taste. Well, that's even

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Speaker 1: worst case than we thought we were dealing with.

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Speaker 4: You know why the I haven't known this was coming

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Speaker 4: and seen it and had it.

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Speaker 1: Almost ready for us.

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Speaker 5: A man expeaks it to be in a draw, packed

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Speaker 5: and ready and sent out.

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Speaker 4: Jake, Well, that would be saving time and process and

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Speaker 4: nonsenical behavior and the waiting gallup.

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Speaker 5: Look, you know it's nothing to hide. They shouldn't have

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Speaker 5: anything to hide either. I've got nothing hide a man

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Speaker 6: We just want the what that We want it all

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Speaker 6: out there and the only way we're going to get

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Speaker 6: to the bottom of it is give doctor Barron Collins

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Speaker 6: what he needs.

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Speaker 7: He will write his full reportern't because at the moment

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Speaker 7: it sits as Eden's death's undetermined, and after ten years

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Speaker 7: day that stares me up. Mate, I still don't know

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Speaker 7: what happened to Eden on that night, and you know,

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Speaker 7: without people like yourself, and I just want to quickly

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Speaker 5: I've always said without.

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Speaker 6: A strong voice, nothing gets heard, mate, And you know,

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Speaker 6: without your seven million listeners of this story, that this

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Speaker 6: touched and has reached you know, we've been heard, mate,

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Speaker 6: We've made noise, and we've got people like yourself.

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Speaker 5: Can you me gode by that you double eight.

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Speaker 1: Fabulous people in our corner, and.

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Speaker 6: We've been able to change history, you know, And we're

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Speaker 6: going to get to the truth. Jay, That's what it's about,

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Speaker 6: our little lady, what happened to Eden?

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Speaker 5: The truth.

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Speaker 3: I think Jason has a good reason to feel jaded,

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Speaker 3: but we, like everyone that's involved in Eden's case, hope

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Speaker 3: there are no more hurdles and trying to access these

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Speaker 3: We were talking for some time before we released our

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Speaker 3: first episode of Badger Betrayal, the new story around Reynolds.

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Speaker 3: You've got a chance to listen to it first before

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Speaker 3: anyone else, because there was a fair bit in in

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Speaker 3: those first couple of episodes about Edie.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: How does it feel having that story now sort of

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Speaker 3: I guess permeating throughout Tasmania and Australia at this point.

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Speaker 6: Look, I I was refreshed to hear it because I

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Speaker 6: use your voice when you want to speak the truth.

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Speaker 6: As you know, Jay, So I'm I'm in aw of

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Speaker 6: what you're doing. I think it's courageous. I think it'd

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Speaker 5: And you've taken it on, mate, and you know what.

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Speaker 6: You're up in Sunny Queen's They Mate, rock it out,

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Speaker 5: That the last one badge of the trial.

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Speaker 6: The police officer said there was fury in the Tasmanian

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Speaker 6: good thing that there's so many police off that pissed

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the public want to know answers.

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Speaker 8: This person was a serial sexual offender and he had

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Speaker 3: I actually went through an email that he'd sent you

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Speaker 3: and in our files, you know, in our first conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Reynolds matter was as big as

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Speaker 3: it is now for me, but I read through that

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Speaker 6: A thorough investigation will be done.

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Speaker 3: Here's that email from Reynolds to Jason and Amanda on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: June fourth, twenty fifteen, at about eight h six am.

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Speaker 9: I am writing to you to acknowledge the screenshots you

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Speaker 9: forwarded to the Hobart Coroner's office to outline what is happening.

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Speaker 9: I spoke to you on the phone yesterday and attempted

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Speaker 9: number going directly to message bank. The investigation into the

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Speaker 9: allegations of bullying at the Saint Helen's High School form

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Speaker 9: part of the investigation being conducted. The Coroner will insist

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Speaker 9: overseen by the investigating officers, supervisor and manager. The file

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Speaker 9: and pass it on to the coroner, who will also

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Speaker 9: review it. The scrutiny of the matter is significant and probing.

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Speaker 9: Please do not hesitate to call me if you want

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Speaker 9: further assurances and advice. Regards Paul Reynolds.

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Speaker 1: I am so vulnerable right there. I'm sick every day physically.

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Speaker 4: Can hardly breathed, and had to ask that person some

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Speaker 6: How can they say that he hasn't impacted or impinged

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Speaker 6: in any outcomes in criminal matters if you're chasing money

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Speaker 6: off a drug deal and you're a senior police officer.

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Speaker 1: He used to be an inspector once, mate.

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Speaker 6: You're you know how to protect, you know how to

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Speaker 6: cover up. He's all over Eden's paperwork like a man

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Speaker 6: has said. He's a pig, he's a monster, and his

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Speaker 6: name's on Eden's smile. That's why it's going to be reopened.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be totally go back into the coroners,

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Speaker 6: a new coroner, and then we get the inquiry inquest

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Speaker 6: that's needed into Eden's death. Going back a bit, heeded,

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Speaker 5: Some people, Jay, how could you think Paul.

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Speaker 1: Reynalds is a good thing?

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Speaker 4: But the only reason they would say he's a good

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Speaker 5: Well, you question them.

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Speaker 3: I want to change TAC now and hopefully in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: On a happy note, you are minutes away from moving

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're so close.

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Speaker 1: We had a budget.

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Speaker 6: It's just the achievement. You feel the pride in yourself

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Speaker 6: You're doing inspections on that, and there's Tommy. You're all

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Speaker 6: That's what you want. The engineer comes up when I

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Speaker 6: need him used the word integrity.

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Speaker 5: It's it's just we're.

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Speaker 1: Probably it's been beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we could be in by Christmas Day.

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Speaker 6: There's a couple of things on order, like a fire tank,

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Speaker 5: The house will be Liverpool Jay. The bartsroom toilet is true.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be in by the nine eight, and

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Speaker 5: Christmas. At the Westbrooks. This year. What does it look like?

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Speaker 5: It's here, Jay, they're all congregating here everyone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it will be short visits by the fan because

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Speaker 6: The cat will be staying in Hobart because we've got

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Speaker 6: So they're going to come up Christmas Eve and had

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Speaker 6: that Christmas night. Justine's going to be here at home

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Speaker 6: Christmas Day with tinker Bell. And we've got Bobby Lee

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Speaker 6: it'll be a quiet Christmas here at home.

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Speaker 3: How on days like this do you reflect on Eden?

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Speaker 6: We actually worked out that we as a family, we

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Speaker 6: like to eat, we celebrate, and we eat and we

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Speaker 6: well and celebrate, mate, and know that Eden's gone and

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Speaker 6: we can't bring it back. But what we can do

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Speaker 6: is what we've done with you and your team, and

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Speaker 6: make a little bit of noise, get to the truth.

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Speaker 1: Brow eatie, and that's enough for me.

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Speaker 6: Mate, with Eden knowing she's proud of us, and I

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Speaker 6: I'm fortunate enough. The year and you know this, the

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Speaker 6: every year light that up and it's now I believe

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Speaker 6: that's Eden's light shining through Christmas.

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Speaker 5: So Eden lives on.

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Speaker 6: And we celebrate Eden with a cheer for Eden in

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Speaker 6: that was quite touching. Both Mada and I in happiness.

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Speaker 6: We're in tears that that's what Hunter wants to do.

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Speaker 6: So Eden's never going to be forgotten our family, even

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Speaker 6: We'll eat well, we'll be merry, and we'll be grateful

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Speaker 6: for the years we had with our little leady Jay.

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Speaker 1: And for me, it never leads me. There's love hearts everywhere.

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Speaker 4: In my coffee, in a rum, in paint dripping. When

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Speaker 6: Our beagary be cemented in ironstone into the shape of

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Speaker 1: Jade, no denying it. Yeah, it is all around me.

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Speaker 5: See what Amanda saying that, Jade.

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Speaker 6: This might be really trippy for you and may be

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Speaker 6: Amanda says and sees that in hearts, and whether it's

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Speaker 5: At the heart, whether it's a pebble on the.

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Speaker 5: And if that works for Amanda, it works for me.

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Speaker 6: J And I love that Eden shows Amanda her love

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Speaker 6: in love hearts continually, on and on because that's powerful

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Speaker 4: Well, it's her saying that I love you, and every

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Speaker 3: She goes, I just want to say before we go,

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, guys, mate, I.

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Speaker 5: Just quickly want to say to you guy, are heartfelt.

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Speaker 6: Thank you to you and your team Jay, and a

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Speaker 6: merry Christmas to you all.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you in twenty twenty six, when hopefully

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Speaker 3: you have a coronial file.

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Speaker 1: We will and there's no hoping. It is a musk