1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Coming up on relatables. You could only do two weeks. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: That's why I don't need more than that. I don't 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: need to be greedy. Yeah, you're a grub, but you 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: don't even change your bed. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: You could do a year. A year, I do a year. 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: I could do it, genuine I could do it year. 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: You are a disgusting human being. 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: A I could do a year relata relatables podcast it 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: by myself. It's a Jake Craig. Okay, daddy, what are 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: you doing? Mate? I'm hungry. 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: We didn't have time for a lunch break today. And 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm meaning. GYG Baby, when you get 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: that delivered, then let me be in p you actually 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: delivered it. That is no. GYG has a special place 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: in my heart. 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Even when your GYG talking you think this was an ad, 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: it's not. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: This is our shout out. I'm annoyed, but this is 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: our call out to GYG sponsor us. 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: Please, I'll talk about you all the time. 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: I reckon. Honestly, I am basically a GYG calorie calculator 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: at this point. Really yeah, I reckon. You could name 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: any dish okay from their restaurant and I will have 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: the calories in my head. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay, let's do that. Why not? So you think 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: any dish? 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, name one? 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Go okay, chicken, nacho fries regular. 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: Mate easy start, nine to seventy. 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: Nine to seventy too bad, pretty good. Actually it's got 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: a hearty meal. 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Next, pulled pork inchilada easy again. Ten to fifty, 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: like a thousand and fifty, I mean fifty, Oh a 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: big too, they're massive crazy. 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Okay, what else have we got? Let's go something mini 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and can get mini burritos. Go chicken again. It's my favorite. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: I know that one because it's great for cutting four 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: forty brother. 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: For forty yeah, under five hundred. What about protein? Do 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: you know how much proteins cat? 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: How much? 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: Recording my calculations, my friend, twenty four grams of protein. 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: That's actually not bad, quite good if you ask me 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: after a session. Anyway, GYG, this, baddies, this is our 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: our audition. 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: Is there our audition? Like we've been trying to get 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: GYG for I think two years? 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, two years. Look at my shirt, batties, I want 50 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: GYG to sponsored me. 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: We actually went and got one time, we went through 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and like we got I think we got in contact 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: with GYG. 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to send us some free stuff. 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: And it was like some free stuff, and I think 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: we got to be part of like some sort of 57 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: like just like a creator program. And we didn't do it, but. 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: We every single work Christmas party, which is just me 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: and Jake at the Relatable Studios, we have GYG. 60 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had two Christmas parties. Now, yeah, we have 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: two Christmas parties. 62 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: But well, let's enjoy these mini meals and have a 63 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: bit of an intermission and then we'll get in the episode. 64 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: Eh, Okay. Before we actually did start recording this episode, 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I went and I picked up The Goodsman. Yeah, but 66 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: before that, I went just like to a local shopping 67 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: center to like pick up a couple of things. And 68 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: the shopping center is from where we grew up. So 69 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I saw someone that I. 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Hate that a I hate going shopping and seeing something, 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: you know, so. 72 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: Some of them like acquainted with and but just like 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: a very I don't know if this is even a 74 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: man coded thing. I think this is a very just 75 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Australia coded thing. So I don't know this person well 76 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: enough to actually remember their name, you know who they were? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 77 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: well clearly not, but yeah, good interaction or uh so 78 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: I didn't talk to them, which was good, Well that's great, great. 79 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not complaining. I'm just saying, like I just 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: think I just thought to myself as such, it was 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: a bit of a funny interaction. So we're just crossing 82 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: paths at the shopping centers. Know their name, no I 83 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: don't remember the name. I know, but like not friends 84 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: with them, just know them, but dies And then I'm 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, like I always be like, oh, 86 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, so I say we both say these exact 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: same time, like oh, good day, how you going? And 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: that's all either one of us said to each other. 89 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: But that was enough, very male oriented. 90 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: Thing or just Australia, because literally we're walking past and 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: like he says good day. I didn't say good day, 92 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: but so he said good day, how you going? And 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: I just and I was like, oh, hey, you going? 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: And we both said it at the exact same time 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and passed quick enough where neither one of us actually 96 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: could have answered the question, and it just was enough, 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: and we just kept going and it wasn't awkward nothing, 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Like all we said was how you going? As a hello, 99 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: and no answer. Is that Australia coded or is that 100 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: men coded? 101 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: I think that's Australia coded. I'll tell you one thing 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: that I don't reckon. You would miss it, but I 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: definitely would miss it. Now that you have lived in 104 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: Sydney for a year and you're moving to the Gold Coast, 105 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: people don't talk to each other up there. Not really, 106 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't actually know. 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: Everyone's quite friendly up there. My stepmom said that she 108 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: noticed a lot of people are really friendly and she 109 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: went and got her hair done once. And because it's 110 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: very very common for people to relocate to the Gold Coast, 111 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of people grow up there, but it's 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: just so common for people to relocate to the Gold 113 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: Coast that everyone's in a similar boat of like not 114 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: knowing anyone. So everyone's quite nice, and so she said, 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: it does sort of give small town vibe. 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, but Sydney the comparison. One thing I love 117 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: about living in like a small town in quotes, or 118 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: a beach town is you go to the beach, especially 119 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: you're walking down the beach tracks and hey, how's it going, Yeah, 120 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: your day, how's the water? Yeah, how's the beach? You 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: go to? Well, Sydney. I don't know about the goldie Sydney. 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: You go there and it's just like, where's my fucking past. 123 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Sydney is very like if you're in the city. 124 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: Selfish, very I don't know, it's just like. 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: It's a people just like are busy for some reason. 126 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: That's one thing that like, I don't know, maybe you 127 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: call it, could call it a bit hippie lardy, dooty 128 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: dooty dar but. 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: It's just small town. 130 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: I like feeling special, Like you go to a national 131 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: park and you don't see anyone and you feel like 132 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: a main character, like you're the only person in the 133 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: world that exists. I love that. But you go to Sydney, 134 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: like we go to Sydney for meetings and stuff, the 135 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: high rise buildings, can't find a park, I'm stressed. There's 136 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: a billion people doing billion different things, and I'm like, well, fuck, 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: I just feel like I don't even matter here. 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I actually Sydney is an interesting one, I would say. Lately, 139 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: I've been getting some so some different feelings about it. 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: And what I mean is so when I first moved there, 141 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I actually really did I really liked it, and I 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: don't dislike it now. But where I am I quite like, 143 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: but I think that the sheer density of population in 144 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: the last like two months has started to get to me. 145 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Just like I had a great run with getting a 146 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: park spot out front of my house and then I 147 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: just for for a little while there, I just wasn't 148 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: having a good run, and I was like, ah, it's 149 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: really like fucking like it is what it is. It's 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: just so kind of annoying, and I'm like, how can 151 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I leave? And then someone takes my spot instantly, and 152 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I was like, there's just so many people, I guess, 153 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: But just the sheer density of population, I don't know, 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: it's just getting to me. 155 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: There's two ways to look at it, because like I 156 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: see that as I'm in the rat race, whereas some 157 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: people see that as motivation. Yeah, like people I don't know, Yeah, 158 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: like Sounder fox me up a lot. What Sounder? Do 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: you know what that is? Sound It's when you think 160 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: about how everyone has their own lives and their own problems. 161 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh, Sounder fucked me up all the time. 162 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunder fox me up all the time. 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: That's what that's called. Yeah, I didn't know they had 164 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: a name, dude, I get absolutely fucked up. 165 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: By Sonda the same and like you think, like how big. 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: The world is to I, I can't rap mate around? 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like there's no possible way in the 168 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: world that you could like go everywhere. That wigs me out. 169 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: So it's so dumb. 170 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Sonder actually wigs me out to the point where it's 171 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: like sometimes I'll start to think deeply and be like 172 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: I actually can't even believe Oddie is his own sentient thing. 173 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe Beth actually just like sees our life 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: and her own life away from her life, but just 175 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: like our life from her perspective, Like everything since I 176 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: was born has been from my perspective and my perspective 177 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: only it's crazy same as you. And it's like the 178 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: fact that like to make it go even like your 179 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: dad's in Bali right now. Your dad's just in Bali 180 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it's just like living his own experience, 181 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: seeing stuff through his eyes. Like my one thing, I 182 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: don't know if this is Sonder, And I don't really know, 183 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: like like I have always thought how I'm sure it's provable, 184 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know how it's provable, Like how you 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: I know that the black cameras and the white walls 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: and the monitors and the lights that I'm looking at 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: right now look the same to you. Because it's like 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't wig out that much, you know what I mean, 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Because it's like yellow on your shirt is yellow to you. 190 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: But like, how do I know that our yellows are 191 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: the same? 192 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 193 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Is this a stupid thing? 194 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: I think that more of conversations. So when it's like 195 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: I think something is awkward or conversation is going slow, 196 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: but you think it's great. Ah, And like especially at 197 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: like dinners with a lot of friends and stuff, and 198 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: there's like an awkward silence and I'm thinking this is 199 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: so awkward, and then they're sitting there happy and shit, 200 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm like they think this is normal. That's so weird. Really, Yeah, 201 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: that's what I get. 202 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't really get wrigged out by that. 203 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: I get that, and it's crazy. But like going back 204 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: to like big cities, and it's always been like I 205 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: reckon in my roots just because of the way I 206 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: was brought up. There's something about even with Sonda, its 207 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: wigs me out there because I'm thinking, like it makes 208 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: my problems feel so minuscure. Yeah, because everyone else has 209 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: problems and I see it and I know it's there. 210 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: But like in this case, I guess ignorance is bliss 211 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: because when I'm in a space where I feel so special, 212 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: I feel like my problems are special. Oh okay, yeah, 213 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: like they mean something to me. Okay, Like when I'm 214 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: going down, like especially like if I'm not driving or something, 215 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: because I have to concentrate going on a train or 216 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: a plane and I have time to think, I just 217 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: wig out heaps, and I'm like wow, especially going into 218 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: a new city and you're like there's so much fucking 219 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: space and people in cars, and like, oh, when you're 220 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: driving home at night, I get a lot of sounder really, 221 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: because if I came home from a festival like twelve 222 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: thirty one am the other day and there's cars on 223 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: the road, like, what the fuck are you doing? It 224 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: was Wednesday night? Yeah what you like, what the fuck 225 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: are you doing? People always do there's a. 226 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: Chance they're driving home from the same festival as you 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: do the same or whatever, wigging me out that yeah, 228 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: so fuck? What was? Actually? So sonder? Fucks me up. 229 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: That's something that gets me. But also I think with 230 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: where I live at the moment, it's I think I've 231 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: been starting to get a bit of like underlying anxiety 232 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: nearly can't relax. 233 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 234 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: I think that also because in the last few weeks, 235 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Best and I've been selling things spoken about that. For 236 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I've been selling a lot of 237 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: our stuff that we don't need to bring to Queensland. 238 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: And so it's like we listed up our dining room 239 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: table and someone straight away took it for like the 240 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: amount Beth put it up for, and she was like, well, shit, 241 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: like I may as well let him take it. So 242 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much I used our dining room table. Yeah, 243 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Like if you would have asked me before we sold it, 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: how often do you use your dining room table, I'd 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: be like, oh, we actually don't want to use it 246 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: that often. But then the first meal I made, I 247 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: was like, am I going to see it? Because I 248 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: would always just sit down there and eat it and 249 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: then go back upstairs to my office. 250 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Didn't process it, and I didn't. 251 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I just was like, yea, let's give rid of the 252 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: fucking thing. 253 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: I guess also too, we like to be glass half 254 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: full on this podcast. I guess like reflection and Change 255 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: is really good. Yeah, yeah, because like as humans, we 256 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: take everything for granted, Like you just took that table 257 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: for granted. 258 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: It's I took that table for granted hard because I 259 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: don't know where to eat. 260 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and comfortability too, Yeah, like being comfortable is so 261 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: nice as a human, but sometimes you do just need 262 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: to chuck yourself out of the comfort zone a little bit. 263 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. But but yeah, if I think 264 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: if I was to end up back in Sydney at 265 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: one point in my life, I really want to try 266 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: and be like suburbs, like to be fair in the suburbs, 267 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: but I just want to be like the Inner West 268 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: is so densely popular. 269 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Your girlfriend, she's a city gallet. She I think is 270 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: completely one fine. Yeah, would she would she go like 271 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: a little bit out whereas I was busy? 272 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: Though, that's a great question. I think that she would. Okay, Yeah, 273 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I actually don't even think I 274 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: would hate living in like a high rise building because 275 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: it's like you go, the way you get away from 276 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: it all is by going up. Really like, I don't 277 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: think I would dislike that, especially if everything's kind of 278 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: want to go out? 279 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: Do you not want that? 280 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: Right now? It's not something that I would say, I'm like, 281 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: I like earning. 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: For I love air. Yeah yeah, like fresh air, fresh air, 283 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: and like just yeah not apartments. 284 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah that's so fair. 285 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: I feel also like, I don't know if it's something 286 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: of being tall or I'm a SIOK something about I 287 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: like having high ceilings. 288 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: You're so grup here, Yeah exactly. 289 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: But like the first thing I'm if I go into 290 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: an apartment or like an older house is like if 291 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: I can touch the ceilings, I feel like I'm being 292 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: like restrained and classify. Yeah. 293 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't actually think that's a weird thing. 294 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: I think that's probably pretty normal. 295 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I've always wanted to as well, because 296 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: my grandpa, my grandpa built his house, Dad built this house. 297 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: I want to build my own house. 298 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's pretty cool. 299 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like a thing you grew up with 300 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: as a dream of mine. 301 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: And then also just I think laying in bed and 302 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: being able to hear cars go past out because I 303 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: live on the main road is just very slowly been 304 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: getting to me. And I think the thought of knowing 305 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: that I'm moving to a quiet suburb on the Gold 306 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Coast has been has made me really really, do you reckon. 307 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: It's going to have an effect on you in a 308 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: sense of like, shit, I can't go back now. 309 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: I like the piece that I'm a little I'm thinking about. 310 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like what if I get there and I 311 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: absolutely love it and I never want to go back, 312 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: And what if Beth gets there and absolutely hates it, 313 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: wants to go back? True, And I'm like, let's just 314 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: cross so bache when we get there. 315 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: There's also I guess that's actually making it a bigger 316 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: problem for people as well, especially in like the cost 317 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 2: of crisis in Australia and the world being comfortable. You're 318 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: going to your parents' house, Yes, very nice house, slation. 319 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: I haven't been there, but I know your parents pretty 320 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: nice house. Yeah, this is a very nice house too. 321 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: And the next step though, like that's your next step. 322 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: It's kind of like it feels like as an adult, 323 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: like if you get your own place or whatever, you're 324 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: kind of taking a little bit of a step back. Yeah, 325 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: you do in nicess and you have to do that, 326 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: and it's like why the fuck am I doing that? 327 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: But you have to for affordability. In being young, it's 328 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: very just like well, I'm just fucking making my life harder. 329 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: But that's the right step, and it doesn't really compute 330 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: in your brain. 331 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it. 332 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And it's like because you're back in yourself. 333 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: But then you're also like, well, fuck, this isn't very nice. 334 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: No true, very true. Also, having lived in the place 335 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm at, I would say, just the fucking the cleaning. 336 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: I think the cleaning. 337 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: I reckon something was wrong with your fin too. 338 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: I genuinely think something is wrong in my house. My 339 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: dad thinks that they because I've complained to him about 340 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: it at a bunch. I'm like this, fuck, I just can't. 341 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: See the design clean. So it's like so up because 342 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: it's like three stories and not like long. That's something 343 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: the dust just must fucking congregate somewhere. 344 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting, yeah, three stories because we have like we 345 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: got really it's a great place, Like there's three of 346 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: us that live there. Won't be able to afford it 347 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: without the three of us. But it's so upstairs. If 348 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: you do a nice clean of upstairs, which is the 349 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: middle floor because the very top is the rooftop, if 350 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: you do a very nice clean of the middle floor, 351 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: like it actually does feel like it stays clean a bit. Yeah, 352 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, okay, cool spoken, kind of 353 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: escape too, something about downstairs, you've got to be it's right, 354 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be right about the design, something about the design. 355 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: Adulting mate, that's what I like. I reckon a harsh 356 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: realized it is going to be too. A lot of 357 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: people don't realize, like how much fucking work it is 358 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: to maintain a house. 359 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: I know, so much work. That's why Actually that's a 360 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: reason why I don't want a big yard. 361 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Like we make a joke that like our parents can't 362 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: sit still and they're always doing something. But because there's 363 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: always something to always something to do, especially with the 364 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: houses we're going to be affording, we're going to fucking 365 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: inherit a fucking problem. That's we're not gonna be able 366 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: to buy a beautiful house. Is where everything's just set up. 367 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: We don't have to get creative, start working hard doing 368 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: that shit, which I like to a certain extent. But 369 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: also then I understand the apartment fucking mentality of like, 370 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: well I just don't have to think about anything, but 371 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: then you have to deal with people with strata and 372 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: I don't like people. 373 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: No, that's a fair point. I think that the more 374 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: I've gotten, so the older I've gotten, the more I 375 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: want my house to be small. 376 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon it depends with like kids though, because 377 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: like you kind of plan for the future, but then 378 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: you're also like, I don't need it right now. 379 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: You just can't win. No, that's a very good point. 380 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I genuinely want my house, like I want where I 381 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: live to be very just like small. But then again, 382 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: it's like what if you start having kids and then 383 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: you have no escape exactly, you have no escape from them. 384 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's also like round circle. You buy a 385 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: big house you have kids in that this is perfect. 386 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: Your kids get old and move out, and you're like, 387 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: I don't need all this space. 388 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we gonna do with this house? Man? Like, fuck, 389 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I just sell it. 390 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: Make eight billion dollars in fucking twenty to fifty three. 391 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the first billion dollar hours will be sold in 392 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: the next few year. I'm telling you it's got to 393 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: slow down on the topic of money. Actually, I saw 394 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: this question on Instagram the other day, and it's you 395 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: get one hundred thousand dollars for every day you don't shower. 396 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: How many days do you not shower? And now keep 397 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: in mind your day to day life stays the exact same, 398 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: like you can't. Just like you only get the money 399 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: when you're done the amount of days, so by the 400 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: time you have a shower, that's when you get them. 401 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: This is actually a really hard question for me because 402 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: I shower so much and I need it to wake 403 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: up in the morning. Else I feel discussing. I need 404 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: it before I got a better Else I feel dirty. Yeah, 405 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars. 406 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Hundred thousand dollars a day and you but you can't. 407 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: It's for every day you don't shower. 408 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: Same, I get sweaty at the gym. We do you 409 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: have the sex too. 410 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: There's going to be a certain point in time very quickly. 411 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: Cassie doesn't want to have sex with you anymore either. 412 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 2: One hundred thousand. But then I'd be like, fucking it's 413 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: a hundred thousand dollars, babe. Yeah, I reckon. 414 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: I could do two weeks, that's all. 415 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, at one. 416 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: Point four mil, you could only do two weeks. 417 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: That's why I don't need more than mate. I don't 418 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: need to be greedy. Yeah, you're a grub, but you 419 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: don't even change your bed. 420 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: You could do a year. A year, I'd do a year. 421 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: I could do it with genuine I could do it year. 422 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: You are a disgusting human being. 423 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: A Why I could do a year? 424 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: Really? Yeah you should go one of those mister Beast challenges. A. 425 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh what do they do it? 426 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: Like crazy shit like that? 427 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I could do something. 428 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: Not shower. 429 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to contact with them. I'll do something. I'll 430 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: make us some money. 431 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: A year. 432 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Really, I could do a year, no problem? Nah or no, 433 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: not no problem. It would suck, but I could do it. 434 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: I could see you doing a year. 435 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: Eight Am I allowed to wash my hands after I 436 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: eat shortly? 437 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? I can you get Oh yeah, I can even 438 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: wash your hands because like you'll get sick and ship. 439 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: I could definitely do a year. 440 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: We went We went camping together. That's how the podcast 441 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: started up the East Coast of Australia for three months 442 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Fraser Island. We're there for a week. Yeah, and we're 443 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: at the beach. Didn't shower for a week. I think 444 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: it was just like jumping and the salt water to 445 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: have a shower, and I felt discussing after. 446 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: I definitely remember feeling pretty gross. 447 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: We went to a caravan park after and I was just. 448 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: Like, oh, this is good. The first the first so 449 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: we also the first moment of the tour up the 450 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: east coast. So we stopped at a place called Crescent Head, 451 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: and that was actually I think like five days to 452 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: a week of no hot showers. Yeah, and we had 453 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: cold showers, so we did get clean. But I remember 454 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: we only drove like two hours further north and stopped 455 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: at this place that had hot showers and they were 456 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: timed five minute showers, and so I remember what we 457 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: would do is we were there. We got there late, 458 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: so we were the only ones in the shower block, 459 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: and there was like maybe ten rows of showers, right, 460 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: so it was like ten showers, and we both like 461 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: started on the outside. First out, we turned one on 462 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: and it waited for it to get hot, right, and 463 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: then we go in. And then when when it was 464 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: nearly done, I'd run out turn another one on, and 465 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: then by the time the one I'd started with first 466 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: got cold, I'd go into the one that just got 467 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: hot and just keep up and pattern and had like 468 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: a thirty minutes shower. 469 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: And this is the guy who says you can do 470 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: a year without showers. 471 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: I could do a year without sharing for one hundred 472 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day. 473 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: Even just having cold water showers like I recently had 474 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: it going camping with my girlfriend and like, it just 475 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: takes it out of you a little bit. 476 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about the cold 477 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: water therapy thing people used to do, used to people 478 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: still do it. 479 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: I'll like to be bigger ice bathing than that. 480 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 481 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: It's great, you feel refreshed, you feel I. 482 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: Said this to I don't know how this came up 483 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: with Bethanar the other day, but she said something and 484 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: I go Also, she said something on the topic of 485 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: like saunas and ice baths, and I said, yeah, I 486 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about ice bats and she goes, yeah, 487 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: but you don't like hard things. 488 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: If there was one sentence to describe mister Jake Craig 489 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: over here, it would be I don't like hard things. 490 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what live and die by that I'll. 491 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: Make that my personal I reckon, you've gotten softer a. 492 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't care I'm changing last like two years. I 493 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: don't care. 494 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: You've got way softer used to love camping. 495 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'll give me that. I have gotten so why 496 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: you don't do it anymore. 497 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: Why it's hard work? It is? 498 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: It is hard. Give me a five. I hate it 499 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: when my feet get dirty. Now you're fucking diva. Two. 500 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: Ay, give me my five star resort. 501 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's daddy and Jake needs to touch grass? How about everyone? 502 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Fuck off? 503 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm living my high rise apartment. 504 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: You got, you'll live in your higher eyes building. Not 505 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: have showers, not have oxygen, no sound up there? 506 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Everyone common blow? How many days could you go without 507 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: a shower for a hundred thousand dollars a day in 508 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: two weeks? Is heaps? Yeah? But like, yeah, so after 509 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: two weeks, you're gonna have one point four mil. And 510 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: then after my three hundred and six five days, I'm 511 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna have thirty six three hundred thirty six million. Yeah, yeah, 512 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: thirty six point five mil. 513 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're going to be. 514 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: Thinking he's stunk for a while there, but I got 515 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: used to it, and now he's got thirty six point 516 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: five million. I'm not giving you any But I'm not 517 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: giving you. 518 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 2: Any You know how, you're a bit of a diva 519 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: and you've gotten soft. You're also the type of person 520 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: who's like it will start to affect all your relationships 521 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: around you, but you'll be like. 522 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't care. 523 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: It's like when we tried to do the no phone thing, 524 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: yeah and no, you just started to do it at 525 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: the start on your own terms, and we had business 526 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: to do and Jake was just unable to contact because 527 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: you had a fucking phone that he left at his 528 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: house while he did things. All genuinely, though. 529 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: I want to know how people did business back in 530 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: the day, because there's a reason why we're all stressed 531 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: and anxious. And for one, I think definitely the reason 532 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: it's gone up is because people can feel like they 533 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: can talk about it more. But two, it is one 534 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent partly because of phones. Because no hate against 535 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: our manager, but like they have such instant access to 536 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: us with just a message, and it's like asking us 537 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: about ideas for sponsorships or this or that on numbers 538 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: for a podcast episode that's the network needs, or all 539 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, And I'm thinking, like we actually technically 540 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: work for ourselves and we could just say, like not 541 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: answering texts today, see you tomorrow or whatever, right, And 542 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: so it's like these things stress us se out because 543 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: we felt when need answer them straight away. Imagine working 544 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: for someone and like emails instant, like everything's instant. 545 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: The obligation. Yeah, but you're also really good at not 546 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 2: replying exactly and you get stressed a little bit. But like, well, 547 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: I have the mindset. 548 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: That like, let me just rub off on you. 549 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you should also say thank you, because let 550 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: me rub one. 551 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: Off, I still get done. They will just message us again. 552 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: I make it easier for you. 553 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: But my mindset with it is I would prefer not 554 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: to have it on my conscience. And if I just reply, 555 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 2: I'm on my phone. Like it's not like I'm not 556 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: on my phone. I'm on it anyway, and I'm just 557 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: reply right now. Okay, that's so funny, So let's se okay, 558 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: And I feel like you have the opposite mindset. 559 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: He joined a care I can explain to you how 560 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: my mind works, so your mind works like this. We're 561 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: get a message from our manager and they're like, can 562 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: you answer this by end of day? Yeah? Right, And look, 563 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: if it's not answered by end of day, I'm sure 564 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. But because you 565 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: saw that end of day thing, you're like, I better 566 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: answer it me. I could see that, and I could 567 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: be like, it's like a big of a deal. And 568 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: then the reason that I could actually not answer it 569 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: until the next day is because I genuinely forget. That's 570 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: why it didn't stress me out, because I actually forget. 571 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not the way my brain works. And 572 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: but you don't forget it, clearly, don't forget about I 573 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: don't forget anything. 574 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 575 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: The same with episodes, like scheduling episodes, if it episode 576 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: is ever late. 577 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: Guys because of me. Also, I can guarantee you a 578 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: Monday episode or a Thursday episode has never been late, 579 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: and only the book Club episodes that we aren't doing anymore. 580 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: But the book Club episodes are the only ones that 581 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: were ever late because I forgot. 582 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll tell you. What also wigs me out too, 583 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: is like why I feel like I was gonna say, 584 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: is this a morning episode? But also I feel like 585 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: it's relatable. I don't know if you moan why do 586 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: we normalize working eight hours a day? 587 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: Wow? 588 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, five days a week? Why is that the normal? 589 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: Why did someone not be like, look, we've got seven 590 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: days in a week. 591 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask, there's a thing here. 592 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: Go on, let's work about three to four and make 593 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: our world funded to working three to four hours a 594 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: day for five days a week, not fucking eight. Yeah, Okay, 595 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: Like why wouldn't we want to be happy? And everyone's like, 596 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: let's just but I assume someone got greedy started making 597 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: a fun ton of money by working more. Everything that 598 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: went up in prices. Everyone's like, I got to catch up. 599 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So Henry Ford, yeah, is widely credited. So 600 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: Henry Ford is widely credited with popularizing the five day, 601 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: forty hour work week. 602 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: Credited, credited to be fucking could. 603 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Cooled Yeah in nineteen twenty six by implementing it for 604 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Ford Motor Company employees. Well, labor movements had long advocated 605 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: for shorter hours. Ford's move was driven by a desire 606 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: to increase productivity and ensure workers had enough leisure time 607 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: to consume goods. Yeah. 608 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I want to do. I'm going 609 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: to be a Google boss. 610 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: A Google boss. Yeah. 611 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if they still do it, but like, 612 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: if we ever are in the position to hire someone, 613 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to be like, dude, if you get the 614 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: work done, I don't care how long it takes you. 615 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: You can do whatever. 616 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you jobs and you do it and 617 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: then after that you can do whatever you want. 618 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: See, I'm like, I actually am the same like I 619 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: would say, like to an employee, I don't want to 620 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: be the boss that's like, and I don't know unless 621 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: this person just is like that, but I don't ever 622 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: want to be the type of person that just expects 623 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: an employee to be just like so go get them 624 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: and just like want to build the company because they 625 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: just love working for us, Because I think that's such 626 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: an unrealistic thing, Like anyone that I've ever worked for, 627 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: the harder I work, the more they get. So it's like, 628 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: why am I going to work more for the same 629 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: amount just to make you more money? Like I don't 630 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: understand that. I don't know if that's a bad mindset 631 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: or not, But if we have a hier employee, I 632 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: just want to give them the stuff that they need 633 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: to do if they get it done. You can work 634 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: twenty hours a week or forty hours a week, but 635 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: if you want to do more, go for it. I'm 636 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: not going to stop you. 637 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree too. I've always had like the mindset 638 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: of like it annoyed me, especially like when you it 639 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: depends with certain roles. I guess you have to be there, 640 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: but I've never understood you finished a job and then 641 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: your employer says you got to stay here for the 642 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: extra forty five minutes on your shift, but you're like 643 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm done, yeah, and they're like you just have to 644 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: sit there in your car, and you're like hectic. This 645 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: is the biggest ways of my life ever. And it 646 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: made me feel so stupid, so so valid. 647 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: My dad one time actually had to so I my 648 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: very first like proper job was at Coals and I 649 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: was like trolley guy. And then also like on certain 650 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: shifts they had the team I was a part of 651 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: had to do like some cleaning of like the chicken 652 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: racks and shit or whatever. And I'd always get if 653 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: it was a week they I'd always getrosted on from 654 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: six till nine. Yeah, like three hour shift. And my 655 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: parents had picked me up, and one time I got out, 656 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get out until nine thirty, and my dad 657 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: was like where were you when I was like, oh, 658 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: they said I had to finish this thing, and he goes, no, 659 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: They've rostered you on from six until nine, like you 660 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: leave at nine, And I was like, oh that makes 661 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: so much sense. Yeah, I was like, what if I'm 662 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: not done the job. He's like that's fine, and like 663 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: someone takes over after you. This is cold. 664 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's funny too, because also, I 665 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: don't know, you feel like a little bit of a 666 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: diva soft or whatever because of society's expectations. But I 667 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: remember when I was laboring and stuff, and I remember 668 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: I was I'm into my fitness. I've always been into 669 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: my fitness. And I used to go and have like, 670 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: go make just a little protein shake, have take three 671 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: minutes out of my day and shift. And someone's like, 672 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: don't let the boss see that, he'll get angry. Don't 673 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: let the bos see that he'll get angry. Yeah, that's crazy, 674 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, mate, this literally takes like three minutes 675 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: and I'll be back. Let me stole my protein shake. 676 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't give a fuck this 677 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: boss is and if he says something to me, I'm like, 678 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm not coming back. Yeah, at least I was in 679 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: a position to do that, But I'm like, like, operating 680 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: your life like that, especially as a boss like I can. 681 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, just something goes wrong with Like I 682 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: suppose they also do it because people take you for 683 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: a ride, because we'd have to be careful. With that mindset, 684 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: people would be like, oh, I don't even have to 685 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: do anything when I work for the boys. Yeah, and 686 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: then they have to have that structure. I guess it's 687 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: the same way with parenting. You can parent in any way, 688 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: and if you have a lackadaisical approach you get to 689 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: taken advantage of. So that's why parents are st strict, 690 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: and that's why bosses are strict. At this point, there's 691 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: just no winning. 692 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Is there a right answer to anything? Is the question? 693 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: No? No, no. 694 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: I also, for some reason hated when people gloat about 695 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: like just working twelve fifteen hours a day every single day, 696 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: and they're like, I work weekends, wouldn't. 697 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it's a masculine thing to think 698 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: that the more you work, the more of a man 699 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: you are. 700 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Whoa, Yeah, it makes you feel like a man. 701 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's I guess I think where a lot 702 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: of men go wrong is a sense of masculine and 703 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: feminine energies aren't to deal with gender. They're to deal 704 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: with like the expectations in your head, and a lot 705 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: of men just think they have to try so fucking 706 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: hard to provide and be seen in society's expectations as 707 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: successful in a provider, but they in reality, they just 708 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: don't really know how to balance. 709 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: And whose fault is that? Men's Yeah, toxic mens for 710 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: starting it in the first place. 711 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they started it and then the problem and now 712 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: they're complaining about it or we we're combining about it now. 713 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: AnyWho? Off topic? Sharp left turn? 714 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: I like left turns. 715 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I am my parents. So I have a mother and 716 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: a father obviously divorced. I have a stepmother and a stepfather. 717 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: I like when you say you're a child of divorce, 718 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: I am a child of divorce. 719 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that's like not a cool title, 720 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: but like kind of makes it sound. 721 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 722 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: I feel like being a child of divorce is like 723 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: actually more common than not being a child of divorce, 724 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: So you're the odd one. No, it's a cool title 725 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: to have. It's like a child of divorce. 726 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: Anyway. I just wanted to say, Okay, my dad will 727 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: send funny text messages to me and my sister, but 728 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: he really sent me this funny thing and this is 729 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: just like so I think this is so me coded. Okay, 730 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: this is something I would do, he goes. So he 731 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: sends a couple of messages and then he just gives 732 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: me an update. So I'm moving soon. My dad's bringing 733 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: his trailer here from Queensland and I'm leaving it here 734 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: with me and I'm taking it back up to Queensland 735 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: it to move. He goes, Jakie, I took one of 736 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: the tires off the trailer to a mechanic today because 737 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: it has been going down all the time. And he 738 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: called me after ten minutes and said he just has 739 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: to screw the valve in a bit more. I think 740 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: he felt bad for me, and he didn't charge me. 741 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Why didn't tell me that? He didn't have to tell 742 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: me that. I know, he just felt like, tell me 743 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: he's like my dad is actually okay, my dad. I'm 744 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot like him. Yeah, pretty chure Lackaday's cal blah 745 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But also like he is so 746 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: slyly or like you wouldn't guess this about him, but 747 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: like when it comes to the family, he fucking loves 748 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: being the center of attention. 749 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 2: Really, it's the funniest thing. Main character and he's like 750 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: the most classic. 751 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: If he was to make us laugh right like, he 752 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: makes us say we're out and as a family gathering, 753 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: makes everyone laugh like that's the pinnacle of joy to him. 754 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: And then for like three years he'll say the same 755 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: joke and then we'll all be like, it's getting old, 756 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: but us recognizing that it's getting old makes him really 757 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: happy because again, he's the center of attention. 758 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: My parents are. They're a different bree day. He's the 759 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: funniest we figure out about our parents. 760 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: How do we get too? 761 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 762 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? 763 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: Who do you reckon? Is the favorite child out of 764 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: your family? 765 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: So for my dad, it's my older sister Joanna. I 766 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: thought you'd be up there, but because I'm not. I'm 767 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: just because I'm easy to forget about. 768 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: Easy to forget about. I think I'm very easy figured 769 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: about it. Successful podcast. Yeah, yeah, Like they're proud of 770 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: me with your best friend. They're proud of me. They're 771 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: definitely proud of me. They've said that before. 772 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: But I'm just the easiest to forget about it. Ever 773 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: since I was young. I think I've been the easiest 774 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: forget about. Jaco. I don't know. I don't ask for much. 775 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. 776 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: They've given me a lot and like obviously super grateful 777 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: for it, but yeah, I feel like I just don't 778 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: really ask for too much. And then for my step mom, 779 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's my younger brother Ethan or 780 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: my sister Hayley, but it's got to be one of them. 781 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: I got to be one of the fuse like full blood, 782 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: it's gotta be. Yeah, you're like a muggle to that. 783 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm a dirty blood. 784 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm dirty blood, not pure bread. 785 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: And then for my mom in Canada, so my biological mom, 786 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: I think my older sister Juanna would say it's me, 787 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: but like it's not because if it was me, she 788 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: would have come and visit me by now. And I've 789 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 1: lived here for fifteen years, and so I think that. 790 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: With my I think it's my younger brother Cole. He 791 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: was my replacement if I still live there, Probably me though, 792 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: yeah you reckon one hundred percent. 793 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah. 794 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: And the sons, she's like she's a major Mum's in 795 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: their son's top of mom. But so then the reason 796 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: I would have been in Subje because this week I 797 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: got something funny from both my parents. My mum likes 798 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: to send me memes and she sent me this meme 799 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: actually from the Batche and Arthur podcast. It was a 800 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: video from the Batch of Arthur. I might show it 801 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: to you. 802 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 2: Quickly as forks. 803 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so she yeah, yeah, Like, she sends me this 804 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: thing and it's like a video. We can put it 805 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: up on screen if we can be bossed, and it's 806 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: I'll show the camera anyway. But it's like the background 807 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: is this purple carpet Mike material, and then there's four forks 808 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: there and my mom sends it to me, and I 809 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: watched the whole thing and realized that not everyone sees forks. Yeah, 810 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: but straight away like you, I saw the forks. So 811 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: I said to my mom, I saw the forks straight away. Haha. 812 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: She goes, oh, really, well, you are left handed, so 813 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense. 814 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: Is that like, is that a dig you? 815 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 816 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm just like she just always. 817 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: Has an excuse for me to be able to do something. 818 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: Do you reckon left Being left handed was a choice 819 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: when you were a kid? No, I think it comes 820 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: naturally to some people. And then a long time ago, 821 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: back in the day, if someone was starting to write 822 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: left handed, they get like whipped and then they have 823 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: to write right handed. Really yeah, So you can be 824 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: taught to write right handed from young if you're right 825 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: in left hand, it's a great idea. 826 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I worked with a guy a carpet what. 827 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: Disagreed might start bringing a whip the work when you're 828 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: writing on the whiteboard. 829 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: I was like, so involved in my own story that 830 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: what you were saying, just say yes and just keep. 831 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: Going, start writing. 832 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: But I worked with a carpenter who was a left 833 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: handed carpenter, and he said that when he first got 834 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: his apprenticeship, his boss didn't realize he was left handed. 835 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: A couple of months and he realized he was. And 836 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: he goes, if I knew that a start wouldn't hired you, 837 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: like full serious with the hate with the left handers. 838 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something about you guys. 839 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: And then but my mom sent me one more things. 840 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: She goes, next time your mom shows you a meme 841 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: that isn't funny. Remember how excited she was when you 842 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: showed her your Crown drawings as a kid. 843 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, whoa, that's a fucking shot fired 844 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: at my Crown. 845 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: Drawings, saying your mom didn't give a single fuck. 846 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Not clearly, clearly the effort I put in that is 847 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: so hard that's crazy something. 848 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: You just got to keep to yourself. 849 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, keep that to yourself. 850 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to having kids in there bringing me 851 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: like this piece of shit un't work, and I'm like, dude, 852 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: they fucking see, Yeah that is heck that you could 853 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: be then expert cast over my friends. 854 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna full on fucking hype my kids. 855 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: And then a friend that stuff put it on the fridge. 856 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: You got it. You're gonna have a problem as a 857 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: father though you hate clutter. The kid's going to bring 858 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 2: home some drawings of the family, and then two days later, 859 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: your son's gonna be like, it was the photo made, 860 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: but isn't it on the fridge. 861 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know, son, Yeah, Santa took it. 862 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: I send it to Santa. How good of a drawer 863 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: you were, and he's gonna bring you extra. But no, 864 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: for real, are you going to actually keep like, hang up. 865 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: Your kids, I'll make you all of them. 866 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: I reckon, I can. 867 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: I have a box and put it in there and 868 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 2: file it away. 869 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: Biggest nightmares when my kids start bringing me home drawings. 870 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: Imagine when you're like your kids are twenty and you're 871 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: like sixty or seventy or whatever, and like you just 872 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: bring out this box and then you show them all 873 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: the drawings that they used to do. Okay, that's cool, 874 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: he's got time for My mum kept a diary, which 875 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: I reckon is a really nice little tip of like 876 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: random shit. I used to say, and like my brother 877 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: used to say, that's cool. 878 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: I like it because it's in a book. 879 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, whip it out and then she'll read it. And 880 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: then like rememberdie when you said like fucking cows are 881 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: going to fly in twenty thirty, this. 882 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: Book, Yeah, please please please read it? 883 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: Can we get actually yeah, she wouldn't. 884 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: It's like nothing bad in there because you're a kid. 885 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: I was a kid. That's fucking it's me. It's me 886 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: and my brother. I think she's got it somewhere. 887 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: Let's get eating on the pod and read him out. 888 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: You remember this idiot, you idiot? 889 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: I think I think Aiden was a day dreamer, and 890 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: then I was a questioner. I questioned everything. I think. 891 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, if I have a kid that asks 892 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: me a million questions, I'm gonna be like, shut up. 893 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't think we're ready to be parents. 894 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: No, hell no, said no. I sometimes I feel paternal. 895 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: My biggest fear is actually when my kids start bringing 896 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: home drawings, what am I going to do with them? 897 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: He just keep them? Surely you're what Beth will like him? 898 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I could put him in a box. 899 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: Then where's the box going to go? And be cluttered somewhere? Mate? 900 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: I find with me like I can declutter in a 901 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: way where if everything's at least just in a pile, 902 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel cluttery. 903 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: Funny story like Jake saying he's an't aal about cleaning 904 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: and stuff and whatever. Granted you're moving, but we went 905 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: to your house to say goodbye the other day. 906 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: And my house gives me anxiety. 907 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: And I went in his spare bathroom to take a piss, 908 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 2: and there was like three vacuum cleaners on the ground 909 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: and just random shit anywhere. So I know this guy's 910 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: mindset out of sight, out of mind. 911 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: So that's what it is. 912 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: So as long as where he hangs out is clean, 913 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: then it's good. And then you'll forget about that room 914 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: for like three days. You'll go in there and. 915 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: Be like, oh, when I when I'm older. Actually, if 916 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: I do have a say, maybe it's like a rumpus 917 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: room for my kids. That that room can be as 918 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: messy as they want it. 919 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't care. 920 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, so as long as it doesn't like trail 921 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: out into the main living area, then by all means, yeah, 922 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: I give a shit. 923 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: Now I'm looking forward. I reckon, I'm getting a bit 924 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: more paternal as well. The other we're getting what are 925 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: we twenty you're twenty six and twenty five? Yeah, yeah, 926 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: I get old. I reckon. If you had to, we'll 927 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: finish on. If you had to have a kid and 928 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: you got to pick what d you were, what would 929 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 2: it be? Ideally no other considerations in the world. 930 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: That's funny. I mean I always fucking land on like 931 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: twenty nine thirty. That's why I don't know why. 932 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 2: Thirty. 933 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if that's the new norm. I 934 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: don't want to Obviously, it's hard to put a number 935 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: on it. I've kind of like spoken to Beath about it, 936 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't want to put a number 937 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: on it's because she doesn't want to like either be 938 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: disappointed or anything like that. And I think that's pretty fair. 939 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: But I always lean towards thirty because I think like 940 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: that's when I'll be ready, but I think that we're 941 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: never going to feel fully. 942 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever feel ready. Hey and well, 943 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: one of our friends is having a kid soon, and 944 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: like seeing that has made me more excited too. 945 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a very good point. 946 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: So exciting and seeing the glow of both people in 947 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: their own ways, the pregnant person and the partner. They 948 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: both blow in different ways, talking different ways. It's really 949 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: cool to see because like for us, I've never been 950 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: exposed to that, especially saying a close friend like that, 951 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 2: and it's kind of like, oh I really felt before. 952 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm also I'm just so for 953 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: some reason, I have this just really like I don't 954 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 1: like to do hard things, so I don't think having 955 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: a kid is going to be hard. Well, sorry, it 956 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: will be very hard, but that's like a hard thing 957 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 1: that I want to do. I'm glad I don't actually 958 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: have to have the kid, but once it's born, obviously 959 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: it will be a hard thing. But for me, it's 960 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: like I'm not taking my kid on a plane until 961 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: it knows not to cry, if that makes sense. 962 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: So once I have a child, it's also I feel 963 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: like that's like a naive mindset. 964 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm not taking my kid on a plane. 965 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: What happens if, like, I don't know, I'm having some 966 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: Christmas party and I invite you and you've just had 967 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: a kid and you really want to come. 968 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: Is it in Australia, But if it's overseas, I'm actually 969 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: if I have a newborn kid, I'm not coming, Like 970 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to free my kid on 971 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: a plane. I like some people do it and they 972 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: have to do it, but I don't know. I've just 973 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: never thought like and it's not it's partially for the 974 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: people around me, but mainly for the kid. Just seems 975 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: crying the whole time. Clearly it's uncomfortable on the plane. 976 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's also Yeah, it's a tough one though, 977 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: because you just like, I don't know, you need to 978 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: break sometimes. What if you want to go on holiday, 979 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: He's not gone. 980 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: Just stay in Australia. 981 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: Get the It's like, I feel like this episode could 982 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 2: be like called You're never right. 983 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: But I always feel right. 984 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: But you do always feel right. 985 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: You always feel right. 986 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: I guess what life is about is feeling right to yourself. 987 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: Quite okay, last question, I know you said yeah, did 988 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: last question, But I got last question. 989 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: You just let that have the final say, don't I do? 990 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? I really like to be in control such so 991 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: man coated of me. Anyway, Are you gonna let kids 992 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: be at your wedding? 993 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 2: Depends who I don't know, like yours. Yeah, but if 994 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: like it's just I don't know. To be fair, I'm 995 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: probably only inviting people who I like, so they kids, Yeah, 996 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 2: depends how old. But like if the kid can't process that, 997 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 2: it's my wedding, Like there's no point of him being there. Yeah, 998 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: and if I don't have a kid, sounds dumb, but. 999 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: Like I've kind of for some reason. I don't know 1000 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 1: if my mind will change on this, but I've always 1001 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: thought I want to have a kid. This wedding are 1002 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: going to be good. 1003 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 2: But what if, like I don't know, what if you 1004 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: have a kid, do you let it come? 1005 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: I ain't have an old bastard kidding, IM don't care 1006 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: if I have a kid, then get married. It's a 1007 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: good question because I feel like I feel like I 1008 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: would want my kid at my wedding. That's a great question. 1009 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 2: But I can friends, like close friends, You'll probably considered family, 1010 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 2: but mainly family. If they had kids, I'd say yes, 1011 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: but anyone else I'd probably say no. 1012 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Also, like can we talk 1013 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: about quickly how at like and comment below baddies, who 1014 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: do you cut off from your wedding when you want 1015 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: to have a small wedding but you have a big family, 1016 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: you have a big. 1017 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: An overseas wedding. I've said no, that's the easiest, get 1018 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: our jail free. 1019 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: Cart hates the idea of an overth. 1020 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: Have a boodie want She hates it goes somewhere cool 1021 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: in Australia like idelope, yeah, idlope, which is like I 1022 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: want to have I'm excited for a wedding hate Yeah, yeah, 1023 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm super excited because you're a small fucking family, That's 1024 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: why you're excited. On No, I'm thinking about my special 1025 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 2: day with cassandra'sself. I reckon it'd be sick to fucking 1026 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: get all dressed up and ship and like I want 1027 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: to still do it in Bali too, So I'm just 1028 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 2: gonna have the people I really want to be there, 1029 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: depending on seeing if our guard issues can sort out 1030 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: by them, especially Cassie, and then not sweating in a 1031 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: dress and shit, see if we canaclimatize, We've got to 1032 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: figure out a few things. But right now it's a 1033 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: Bali wedding. But yeah, I'm fucking super excited even just 1034 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 2: to like I'm picturing her walking down the aisle and 1035 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: like I reckon, I will cry, not fully, I can, 1036 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: I just tear up. I'm excited for that. 1037 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: I want to see you sob. 1038 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 2: I don't reckon I'll sob. I don't think i'll sob 1039 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: because I don't ever sob, like even in like life, 1040 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: I just have a little tear. I've never really like 1041 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,479 Speaker 2: fucking sobbed. I wish I could sob. 1042 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: And if you don't sob for her, then you don't 1043 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: love her. 1044 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: Tears of I've had tears of joy, and that's what 1045 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: it will be. And I'll just be like I don't 1046 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: know what to do with my mouth and then just 1047 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of like my eyes wigging out in 1048 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of water. 1049 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting acting classes, going and get acting classes. 1050 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: I feel like that is so toxic. 1051 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: Why is that toxic? 1052 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: We've said this before. If you can't cry organically, then 1053 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: you don't love it. But if you go and get 1054 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 2: acting classes so you can cry on cue. I feel 1055 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: like that's cheating. 1056 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: Why that is so cheap? That's not cheating because it's 1057 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: not real. 1058 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: It makes her feel good and it's real if like, 1059 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: it's clearly a real cry, if it's coming out as 1060 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: a cry, even if I'm an actor, because what actors 1061 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: do is they think of something so sad or so 1062 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: happy that it makes them cry. You don't need you 1063 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: don't need the classes there, but would you see you're 1064 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: saying movies are real, then like when they act, and shit, 1065 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: that's real because they are acting. I feel like, I 1066 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: ask your girlfriend, I reckon she wouldn't like that. 1067 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: Really? 1068 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: Have you asked her before? 1069 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: No, but she won't know. I'll clip that and see what. 1070 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 2: She says, like that best of it different because she's 1071 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: obviously like you, so she probably there's even two responses. 1072 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: She would say, I don't like that or I don't care. 1073 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: True true, I can see best saying I don't really. 1074 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: Care, I don't know. 1075 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're scared you're. 1076 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: Not going to cry at your wedding, then get some 1077 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: acting classes and cry at that fucking wedding. If your 1078 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: fiance wants you to cry, I reckon yourself. See what happens. Okay, 1079 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: that's what you should do, because what happens if. 1080 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: And then what if someone takes out What if a 1081 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: man takes that advice and then he doesn't cry at 1082 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: his wedding because he's not a crier, right, and then 1083 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: if fiance wants him to cry and she doesn't see 1084 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: him crying and she turns the fuck around. 1085 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: But no, that's and she has every right to do that. 1086 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: No, but that's who you are. You don't put up 1087 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: a false pretense of who you are when you're on 1088 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 2: a date just because she wants someone to be confident, 1089 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: people to do and cocky like it's like, I don't 1090 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 2: know when you first started seeing Beth and she wanted 1091 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 2: to fucking I don't know, heaps confident? Man, You didn't 1092 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 2: pretend to be that, you were yourself? 1093 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: True? 1094 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you should think you should just be 1095 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: yourself and then see what happens. 1096 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: And I don't. 1097 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: And I think it's the same with having a kid. 1098 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: It's people say like I want a boy or I 1099 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: want a girl, and then things born You're like, I 1100 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: don't care. It's like, oh, I want my husband to 1101 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 2: cry when she walks down the aisle. She's not going 1102 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: to care, okon, She's just going to be so in 1103 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: the moment with you and so in love that it's 1104 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: special no matter what true and the same with you, 1105 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: I reckon, even if you did take acting classes, or 1106 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 2: can you be so in the moment that you forgot 1107 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 2: to cry if you weren't going to cry? 1108 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 3: Or yeah, or you would be like start crying before 1109 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 3: she walks down the aisle. 1110 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: This is your mindset. You'd be like, no one's there. Yeah, 1111 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: And you would be like Tommy, saw. 1112 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: I have to go sh biggest fear of mine the ship. 1113 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: The biggest fear of mine is needing to ship on 1114 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 1: my wedding day. While I'm standing in front of my wife, 1115 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: I can see that too, Like, we better fucking hurry 1116 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: this up. What do you even do? 1117 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: You'd probably just pause it, give me five seconds. You're 1118 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 2: the like it's your day too, Yeah, give. 1119 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: You five seconds anyway that. 1120 00:46:52,840 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 2: Your wife best like did you run away your cold? Oh? 1121 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: We love your baddy, Stay bad