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Speaker 1: Welcome to L three sixty roughly from Every Angle, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by n I V. Joining me again the

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Speaker 1: great Gordon Tallis. It's been the journey Australian buzz rock

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Speaker 1: field mate, Brent Reid. We've got a massive show on

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Speaker 1: tonight and it's kind of good to have your background

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Speaker 1: one bra. How do we learn over it?

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Speaker 2: That's all I learned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good that it was a good experience, great.

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Speaker 2: Experience, fantastic. Great to be back here. It's great to

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Speaker 2: have you back, missed sixty taking up break. We're we're

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Speaker 2: getting on good bro.

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Speaker 3: What is that he's taking up break? Then?

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Speaker 4: Yea?

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Speaker 2: Me and raygun guy.

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Speaker 5: You guys look good. He was a bit worried about

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Speaker 5: this show.

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Speaker 4: I saw you both at the Lagash last night and

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, oh god, late night.

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Speaker 3: Both very good.

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Speaker 1: We always you can turn buzz. We didn't seeing you too,

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Speaker 1: sw yeah really yeah, you stands in glass.

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Speaker 3: Very very this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the nominal player

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Speaker 1: performance of the round and brought to you by the

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Speaker 1: Tab and here they are. Jacob Keraz is on fire,

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Speaker 1: as is the Bulldog two hundred and forty eight run

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Speaker 1: meters Jake Clifford back in form with four linebreak assists,

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Speaker 1: and Daniel Atkinson with that controversial game winning field goal yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Three solid performances from these three, Gordy, who do you

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Speaker 1: like out of these?

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Speaker 3: I think Jake Clifford. I think the Cowboys open him

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Speaker 3: up forty four points. I thought that, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: against the Despert side. I thought he was outstanding.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I agree on Clifford. Great story.

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Speaker 4: I love these stories of kids have been in second

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Speaker 4: grade all year and had a bad exit the night,

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Speaker 4: and you'd come home that the Cowboys made a bold

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Speaker 4: move getting ready to Chad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I liked this game. They were very, very sharp.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say Jake as well, but I'll

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Speaker 2: go with Jacob Krraz because just to be different, breath,

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Speaker 2: he's been outstanding all year actually for the Bulldogs. Jacob

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Speaker 2: Carraz and two forty eight meters that's a big effort.

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Speaker 1: Big effort. The dogs are flying, buzz, aren't they?

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Speaker 5: Dogs are flying dogs?

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Speaker 1: Fan Now, apparently we'll get there a bit later, but

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Speaker 1: so just Holdrana's thrilling golden point winner has been overshadowed

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Speaker 1: by two contentious calls in relation to blockers during field

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Speaker 1: goal attempts. Now, this was an interesting one, a couple

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Speaker 1: of I think dubious decisions. I'm interested to get your

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Speaker 1: take on this. This first one, this was given a

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Speaker 1: penalty and no film goal, which would have been I

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Speaker 1: think the match winner for Kaylen Ponger. Now I'll start

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Speaker 1: us off. You can see there those two forwards, they're

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Speaker 1: deemed as blockers and getting in the way of Kennedy. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the blockers or where they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to go. Those two they're in position for their nine

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Speaker 1: if they need to get the ball. They haven't really

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Speaker 1: deviated their run. They haven't taken out. I don't think

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Speaker 1: any of the defenders in that moment. And I thought

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Speaker 1: this was a shocker. But I'd love to hear the

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Speaker 1: opinion of you.

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Speaker 3: Guys who did they block?

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Speaker 2: Well, the argument block will Kennedy, right.

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Speaker 3: But everybody had a chance to get to the kicking.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with it, but I'm saying that's the argument.

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Speaker 2: Goody right, So you know I'm with you, brother. I

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Speaker 2: think those guys to take the pass. If it was

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Speaker 2: a Brallia dummy half one to hit them with a pass,

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Speaker 2: he could have hit them so they're they're sort of

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Speaker 2: live players.

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Speaker 4: I spoke the great Mansley today, head of football, and

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Speaker 4: he was very, very strong that the referee got this right,

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Speaker 4: and he really emphasized the fact that all seventeen clubs

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Speaker 4: got a very strong email at the start of the

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Speaker 4: year about blockers the year or start of the week

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Speaker 4: started the season exactly.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, but the clubs are where.

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Speaker 4: I then argued with him that I don't think those

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Speaker 4: any obstruction whatsoever. I'm will Ken, I would have been happy,

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Speaker 4: even as a Cronulla fan for that to be a fair.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of Cruller fans say the same thing. Now,

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Speaker 1: this happened only within two minutes and they massed on

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Speaker 1: downfield because of the penalty. Now he had to give

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Speaker 1: this penalty, and I believe the referees dug himself in

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Speaker 1: You can see Calen plays for it, because I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you play for it. And that's what we're going to

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Speaker 1: get down from players because of this now, because we

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Speaker 1: weren't strong on that first call and now Annesley's backed

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Speaker 1: it up. Here we are identical situation and the Newcastle

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Speaker 1: players play up to it and they have to disallow

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Speaker 1: it because they disallowed the one before. But that's the

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Speaker 1: only reason I believe they disallowed this one, which has

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Speaker 1: really got us in a bit of a messy. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's terrible.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to see you and it's an old saying.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to see a Grand final or a

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Speaker 4: major semi final whatever decided by a blocker when it's

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Speaker 4: so inconclusive. And for the life of me, Will Candy

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Speaker 4: was not obstructed. I don't care what anyone says. I've

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Speaker 4: been in the control. We've stop framed, but we've hdreed it,

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Speaker 4: we've four k'd it. I can't see a block.

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Speaker 2: And there's another issue. All The other issue is that

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Speaker 2: even Graham considered today that Will Kennedy may.

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Speaker 1: From even Graham now enterial head of football Graam Mansley

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Speaker 1: has defended both decisions. Let's take a look.

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Speaker 6: The referee or the video referee may rule obstruction if

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Speaker 6: any player from the attacking team, in relation to a

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Speaker 6: field goal, takes up a position near the player the

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Speaker 6: ball and, in the opinion of the referee, obstructed defenders,

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Speaker 6: regardless of whether there is physical contact. All the clubs

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Speaker 6: have got a copy of this. All the clubs are

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Speaker 6: brief John this at the start of the year. You know, obstruction,

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Speaker 6: blockers case closed, the next one for the for the Sharks, blocker, blocker,

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Speaker 3: Obstruction.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what stands out to me there is Graham

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Speaker 1: saying that they they'll neither play the ball the blockers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were. The issue we've had in

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Speaker 1: the pass is the blockers right near to play the ball,

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Speaker 1: and they get in the marker's way, and they get

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Speaker 1: into the defender's way. But in this instance they're just

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Speaker 1: in a position of attack. They're not actually in a

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Speaker 1: So I dispute that. And there was an incident you

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Speaker 1: were about to talk about it, but Asley spoke about

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Speaker 1: in the press conversent and have it there about Will

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Speaker 1: Kennedy office.

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Speaker 2: And Graham basically consider there was a chance Will Kennedy

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Speaker 2: was off side, but they couldn't review that because the

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Speaker 2: video official doesn't have the power in this situation to

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Speaker 2: review off side. I think it's opening up a bigger

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Speaker 2: floor in the system. But what if we get to

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Speaker 2: a game and there's a guy clearly offside now and

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Speaker 2: we've got to review it, and the video ref can't

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Speaker 2: give a penalty for it. So it's opened up, I think,

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Speaker 2: or shown us a flaw in the system that needs

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Speaker 2: to be looked at.

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Speaker 1: So, just to be clear with everyone at home, if

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Speaker 1: Will Kennedy was three meters off side, there could they

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Speaker 1: couldn't rule.

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Speaker 2: Video referee could ruled, couldn't have couldn't have brought it back,

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Speaker 2: couldn't have given a penalty. As I said, Graham said today,

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Speaker 2: there was a chance Kennedy was off side in this

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Speaker 2: play and the video ref couldn't look at that, couldn't

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Speaker 2: make a decision on that, and ultimately it's costing Newcap

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Speaker 2: this game and the season this season.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm catching Coronulla there, my two markers didn't move.

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Speaker 3: They got the they got the shortest line to the kicker.

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Speaker 3: Both of those markers had a clear runder him. They

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Speaker 1: They were block didn't even wine after this, They thought

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Speaker 1: they lost that. There was no rule uproar from the players,

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Speaker 1: there was no he was in my way. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: get to him. The referee just went out and a

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Speaker 1: limit made a call, which is okay if you make

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Speaker 1: the right one. I just I can't believe that they're

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Speaker 1: saying they got it right it buzz. You had an

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Speaker 1: issue with the Phoenix crossland Sinbin just before half time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, and I hope we're going to show

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Speaker 4: it here. Here it comes. Now see what he's doing there?

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Speaker 4: I see it all through a game, every game. He's

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Speaker 4: not on that long, right, Why was he sin bit?

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Speaker 4: Wasn't he just penalized Gordon?

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Speaker 3: Well, I reckon, it's a professional foul.

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Speaker 5: Why is it? But why is it not a professional foul?

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Speaker 3: Because the men well because inside the ten that's what

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Speaker 3: they deem that he's.

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Speaker 5: The ball, so normally just goes six.

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Speaker 4: Again, Yeah, I get that that was a really big

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Speaker 4: but again I had a fight with Graham.

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Speaker 1: I think what goes against Phoenix here is that it's

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Speaker 1: actually a flop. He jumps on one to play the

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Speaker 1: plays dead.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't watching this.

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Speaker 1: He's tackled, tackled, flops on him, so that's already a penalty.

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Speaker 1: Referees is letting them go so that there's an adventage

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Speaker 1: to connel up. Then he then he stays on him

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Speaker 1: until the siring goes there a professional fail there.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree he wanted to six again, but he

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Speaker 3: played for that.

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Speaker 2: I've got less. I don't have less for a problem

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Speaker 2: with this. YEA, for me, this is I can understand

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Speaker 2: why he was saying.

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Speaker 4: But the problem we have is, and I said it

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Speaker 4: earlier in the season, we need a summit, Wayne Bennett.

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Speaker 5: Wayne Bennett says.

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Speaker 1: We needed to love this summit.

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Speaker 2: We we needed the end kill rockill something.

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Speaker 4: Because the game now appears to be too fast, too

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Speaker 4: complicated for referees and the bunker to consistently make decisions.

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Speaker 5: I'll go back to those blockers.

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Speaker 4: If we forensically examined every field goal this year, we'd

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Speaker 4: find a problem in most of them.

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Speaker 3: Would be their coach to break the rules. Until you

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Speaker 3: get all the coaches there here.

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Speaker 4: We got one game where the NRL so they refered

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Speaker 4: it correctly, and they're entitled to say that.

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Speaker 5: We're entitled to disagree.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who's going to this summer?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, Well, way't Bennett's first in the door.

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Speaker 4: I'd hope Trent Robinson, I'd hope Craig Bellamy, and I

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Speaker 4: hope the r l p A would nominate their foremost

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Speaker 4: soon your players, the Dally, Jerry Evans, the clear ees.

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Speaker 3: So then so you think Ricky and Ivan and Kevy

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Speaker 3: and those guys are just going to oh yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: You come up to the rules. We're just going to

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Speaker 3: play to your rules.

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Speaker 5: No, no, not as every coach goes.

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Speaker 4: You asked me off, we don't need a summer buzz

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Speaker 4: soy for this what are you under the g We.

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Speaker 2: Just need some clarity around it. But we don't need a.

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Speaker 5: Summer We're not just getting clarity.

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Speaker 2: It will just result in mass changes to the rules again,

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Speaker 2: which is the last thing we need.

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Speaker 4: You know why we're opening the show on this topic

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get consistent decisions. It will help

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Speaker 5: And it helps. It's a better chance and having twelve.

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Speaker 1: All right, talking of the summer, do you think you're

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Speaker 1: at this summit, they will discuss golden point. Your point

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Speaker 1: with this, buzz Raider has got flogged, Knights are lucky

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Speaker 5: Light Bulb again the Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: I did bulldog style off Buzzer stole back of Bullock.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So my view is this.

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Speaker 4: I think we should change Premiership points to four points

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys won by thirty eight points against Canberra. Cornulla

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Speaker 4: I think golden points great for rugby league. It's great

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Speaker 4: not fair.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: It does have merit and they will give some credity.

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Speaker 1: Buzzer does have meritor and I think you can that's

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Speaker 1: But you know, is it worth changing the whole system

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Speaker 2: I think it's got no merit at all. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: so there is a loser, No, there's not.

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Speaker 3: They get one point for point, get a point after

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Speaker 2: Every kid at the the carnival goes up about it.

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Speaker 2: But you know that's what Golden porm was brought. It

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Speaker 4: Behind golden I can't understand what you're saying. I'm not

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the year, when the premiership

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Speaker 4: That's where it gets really difficult because the team that

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Speaker 2: What I mean, what if you lose twenty nine twenty

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Speaker 2: Never some effort in regulation time and lose twenty nine anymore?

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Speaker 5: I cannot help you.

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Speaker 1: And I think I'm bouncing out the ready.

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Speaker 5: I just wonder, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: It's got merit? And I like it. I like Buzzer's idea.

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Speaker 1: You're happy now mate?

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Speaker 3: Oh well you know I've jumped on your bed.

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Speaker 4: Ready is first up from a long spell and he's

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Speaker 5: Heah, he does.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're your dumb ideas.

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Speaker 3: I just.

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Speaker 1: What's the latest on Nathan Cleary. This was pretty big

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be back. I'm not sure he'll be but

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Speaker 2: I mean he's I think he's carried this injury at

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Speaker 4: So, and they've got Brad Schneider and Jack Carle as

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Speaker 5: He is out.

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Speaker 4: And look, I keep thinking back to Cooper Kronk in

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Speaker 5: Penrith will find a way to do with Cooper Kronk Jerome.

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Speaker 2: Last year's run with the shoulder one.

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Speaker 3: Was a broken bar man and this is maybe structural.

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Speaker 3: He's just going to get He's just going to get

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Speaker 1: Well, he's had the injury week since the preseason. He's

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Speaker 1: He didn't he went off, but it wasn't like he

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Speaker 2: Jerome's shown that ye great, that he can take charge

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Speaker 2: and lead this side around when Nathan has been out

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Speaker 2: Jerome in terms of towns control of that football team,

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Speaker 1: And just experience for Penrith under pressure in big moments.

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Speaker 1: You know the last three premierships know how to get

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Speaker 1: Can the Dogs win the comp from outside the top four?

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Speaker 1: They still may finish top four. The Mighty Bulldogs have

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Speaker 1: been on absolute fire. I don't think anyone saw this coming,

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Speaker 1: even their own fans. But you write a story today,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Dimmick. Yeah, Jimmy divided in the article.

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Speaker 4: Back in nineteen ninety five, Jimmy Dimmick won the Clive

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Speaker 4: Churchill Medal on Grand Final Day and that year Canterbury

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Speaker 4: last two. Twenty nine years ago, spoke to Jimmy. Jimmy

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Speaker 4: thinks the Bulldogs are Manly. They're both playing well enough

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Speaker 4: I've seen from both clubs, Cannobury and Manly, I'm not

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Speaker 5: They are serious. Serious.

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Speaker 1: One thing to think about, too is if you finish

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Speaker 4: That is a massive advantage. I know Melbourne are boatable

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Speaker 4: and I know Penrith are boatable, but I'd rather play

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Speaker 4: eighth and seventh first week of the finals. You won't

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Speaker 3: In and get a home final, wouldn't they?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I think that, Yeah, yeah, fifth, you mean so they

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Speaker 3: you do it. Of course they get a home final.

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Speaker 3: You just think that wouldn't I don't think they can

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Speaker 2: I think that's I think.

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Speaker 1: I think you're putting a line through them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they can win it. Okay, Dogs,

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Speaker 2: you have got mainly worrying me. I think they're considering

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Speaker 2: too many points. They think they need to tighten their

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're saying the Bulldogs cannot win the premiership.

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Speaker 2: Shu, they can, but I didn't think they could win

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Speaker 4: The You know, they've already beaten a couple of these

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Speaker 2: I think Manly got a better chance of doing the

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I just said the Bulldogs at the moment and going defense.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just to tell you one count defense and

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to play.

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Speaker 2: To win four games. I'm not sure they can win

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Speaker 4: I was talking to Gordy about this in the green

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Speaker 5: They knocked and George out week one and I was.

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Speaker 3: In that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they are fantastic, but.

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Speaker 1: You reckon they can buzz You have no no Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: Well that gives you one cap and you're all over them.

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Speaker 2: What about the you and back text?

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Speaker 5: What you do in this business?

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Speaker 3: Readie?

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Speaker 2: Please tell me.

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Speaker 4: We all say started the years, we all said the

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Speaker 5: We all said they didn't have a fallback.

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Speaker 4: What you do after twenty five rounds and you've actually

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Speaker 4: again you've got to say, jeez, I might have got

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Speaker 5: It's not that hard.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll considered that.

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Speaker 5: Where did you have him coming on the table?

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Speaker 2: I've considered before the season started, didn't there play finals footing?

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Speaker 2: But I will say this.

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Speaker 5: Where did you have a fall So? Will you say

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Speaker 5: you're wrong like I have?

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Speaker 1: I was wrong?

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Speaker 3: I was wrong? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Next, please, did you just elaborate on the on the

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Speaker 1: gas schools. The text lines open again.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was shocked he hasn't returned to text mession

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Speaker 4: about five years. I heard you wonder why he was

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Speaker 4: The any signed with Saint George. So I texted Gus

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Speaker 4: for comment. Lambehal bit. A message comes up. He confirms

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Speaker 4: there was interest in Valhanes and that the price tag

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Speaker 4: after speak to his manager was not within reason for

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Speaker 4: the Bulldog's cap. He wished vow well and I sent

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Speaker 2: Would you say you're back on that you're back on

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Speaker 2: with Gus?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that. There is there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: A beautiful it's that beautiful moment anyway. All right, what's

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Speaker 1: the later, Let's move on. What's the latest on the

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Speaker 1: Trull Mitchell situation. We're not we haven't heard too much

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Speaker 1: about this. We've we had bits and pieces, but it's

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Speaker 1: been pretty quiet.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously they're waiting for the five days

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Speaker 2: from the breach got from the inner ally expiring that's

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Speaker 2: due to expire Thursday. I imagine we'll just cop that

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Speaker 2: a fine and a suspension and then it's up to

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Speaker 2: the club, and the club's going to come down pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: What's the fine the suspension?

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Speaker 2: I think it was a one game and and that's all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a big fine coming from Souse

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Speaker 2: and that's that will come after that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ready's written about the fine. It won't only be that.

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Speaker 4: And I want to applaud Souse here because we've been

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Speaker 4: banging on, particularly on this show for quite some time.

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Speaker 4: They've been too lenient, too soft on Latrell, and I've

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Speaker 4: overlooked a number of big issues there. This time, they're

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Speaker 4: going to walk into that meeting with the board with

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Speaker 4: Blake Sally. They're going to lay it on the table.

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Speaker 4: They're going to say, you're going to have discipline behavior

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Speaker 4: clauses put into your contract that this if this has

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Speaker 4: ever had happened again, we'll tear.

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Speaker 5: The contract up. This is long overdue and as minutes

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Speaker 5: over Jew, I don't know if they'd met it over due,

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Speaker 5: but they're finally.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, we've spoken about on the show a lot, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: What you've got to remember is for all the rubbish

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Speaker 4: he's been in and I'd call it rubbish for that

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Speaker 4: triple M interview was out of order and this photograph

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Speaker 4: last week was bad for the game, front page for days.

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Speaker 4: This time last year, on dally M Night, he was

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Speaker 4: named the Ken Stephen Medal for community charity work. Right,

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Speaker 4: so he obviously does a lot of great things. However,

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Speaker 4: what's happened this year, repeat offense after repeat defense where

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Speaker 4: he's not on the field, not just for injuries, but

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Speaker 4: the suspension for whacking Shawn Johnson is unacceptable for a

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Speaker 4: one point two million dollar football And does Tom Turbo

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Speaker 4: do this?

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Speaker 5: Does Reese Walsh do this? Does Jerome Hughes do this? No,

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Speaker 5: they don't.

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Speaker 1: That's a responsible This is his record at the Roosters

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Speaker 1: and then since he's arrived at Red from there with

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Speaker 1: the Bunnies, and you can see a significant difference in

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Speaker 1: number of games played each year from Latrell. How do

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Speaker 1: you guys see this well?

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Speaker 2: And those numbers are disappointing.

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Speaker 3: Break.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a superstar and they need him on

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Speaker 2: the park, and when he's on the park for them

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Speaker 2: and playing well, they win footy games. And he hasn't

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Speaker 2: been on the park enough for them since they've signed him.

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty clear from those numbers.

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Speaker 3: Barz and you said that they're going to pretty much

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Speaker 3: lay down the law. Is there a chance that Latrell

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Speaker 3: doesn't accept that?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's a chance. Latrell has indicated to his closest

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Speaker 4: confidance that is it worth it?

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Speaker 5: You know that is it?

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Speaker 1: Would?

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Speaker 5: I be happier on the farm in Tarre.

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Speaker 4: He loves it there and no one could be grudge him,

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Speaker 4: you know, that sort of lifestyle. I seriously hope finally

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Speaker 4: this will be the wake up corps and he will

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Speaker 4: accept what Souse wants to do because Souse will been very,

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Speaker 4: very fair to him.

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Speaker 2: I think Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, that's huge for Latrell because

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Speaker 2: Wayne's always generally got the best out of the trill

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Speaker 2: and got a great relationship with him. And I think

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Speaker 2: if Wayne wasn't coming next year.

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Speaker 1: They'd be in trouble.

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Speaker 2: I reckon they would have given serious thoughts to potentially

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Speaker 2: ripping up his.

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Speaker 1: Coind Well, it's a godsend that Wayne's coming in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways, you know, even the way they're kind

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Speaker 1: of playing at the moment. They've got a heap of

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Speaker 1: injuries and they've been riddled with it and it has

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Speaker 1: cost them probably an opportunity of fighting for finals. But

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Speaker 1: what has Wayne got to do? When Wayne gets in

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Speaker 1: and takes this job, he's got to deal with the

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Speaker 1: Latrell issue. He's got a number of players there that

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Speaker 1: are underperforming at the moment, and they want to quick

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Speaker 1: turn around that.

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Speaker 3: They don't want Wayne to come.

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Speaker 1: In and take two or three years to get them

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Speaker 1: back where they need to be. So what does he do?

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Speaker 1: How does he fix this so quick? And is he

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Speaker 1: can he fix it?

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Speaker 2: Bra I reckon, You look at that roster. It's not

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Speaker 2: that bad. There's a lot of talent on that roster totally,

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Speaker 2: So he just needs to get them pulling in the

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Speaker 2: one direction. I mean, it's just sort out a couple

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Speaker 2: in minutes to play with the roster a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but doesn't need a major overhaul. They're not far off

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Speaker 2: being a contender again. So I don't think it's it's

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Speaker 2: not a huge it's not a huge job.

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Speaker 1: You don't think it's a huge job.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a huge to get the button

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Speaker 2: what we first thought or not well, I mean the

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Speaker 2: the trolly, he's had another layer to it.

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Speaker 4: Right, Really they don't have a middle, right Tom burd

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Speaker 4: just is going and Tom's been a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I told it was a good player a year ago.

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Speaker 4: He's not Fisher, Harris ad and Fernowa Blake or any

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Speaker 4: of those big boys at many or so.

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Speaker 5: And to me there's this.

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Speaker 4: Gigantic question mark around Lewis Didde from Saint Helens, who

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Speaker 4: has been in second grade a little bit.

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Speaker 5: You know this season I agree to.

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Speaker 4: Come out to this, yeah, but for him to come

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Speaker 4: out here on seven hundred and seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: k Wayne is a great coach, the best we've seen.

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Speaker 4: But can he lift well the trail and Lewis.

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Speaker 3: Didge will wait and see, you'll have to I think

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Speaker 3: I think the trail's fitness and want you know, and

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Speaker 3: then like, and you made a point. Does he want

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Speaker 3: to pay the price to be a rugby league player?

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Speaker 3: There's prices you've got to pay. Does he want to

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Speaker 3: pay the price?

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Speaker 1: If anyone can do it? Is Wayne ben At a

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Speaker 1: big job ahead for the Supercoach next year. Stick around

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Speaker 1: journal is plenty. Want to come and Wednesday very special

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Speaker 1: on Fox League as we hon the greats of our

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Speaker 1: game and reveal the fourteenth Immortal this Wednesday, following anner

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Speaker 1: roll three sixty