WEBVTT - Dad's car is found but he is gone... 0:00:05.881 --> 0:00:07.281 Approche production. 0:00:10.841 --> 0:00:13.841 John Jasper Jensen was last seen on Sunday, the twenty 0:00:13.841 --> 0:00:18.081 fifth of June twenty seventeen by his daughters when they 0:00:18.161 --> 0:00:21.961 dropped him home at his house in Ocean Reef, Perth, 0:00:22.001 --> 0:00:27.041 Western Australia. The next day, he vanished into thin air. 0:00:27.801 --> 0:00:31.601 Has never been seen or heard of since it shattered 0:00:31.601 --> 0:00:36.881 a family apart and driven a massive wedge between two sisters. 0:00:39.241 --> 0:00:43.241 John had some medical conditions and suffered depression, but the 0:00:43.281 --> 0:00:45.760 doctor's report at the time of his disappearance said he 0:00:45.801 --> 0:00:49.521 seemed to be fine, quite chirpy. Head back to the 0:00:49.521 --> 0:00:54.761 first few episodes to hear more. Right now, we take 0:00:54.801 --> 0:00:57.240 you back to the moment that Belle arrived at a 0:00:57.361 --> 0:01:02.041 dad's house. The neighbor is out the front. It's eight 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.800 thirty on Monday night. AD's garage door is wide open 0:01:07.241 --> 0:01:11.000 and there are no lights on. Darren Bell's husband is 0:01:11.041 --> 0:01:14.280 worried that there might be someone in the house. This 0:01:14.481 --> 0:01:18.160 was the same house but six years before Belle found 0:01:18.161 --> 0:01:22.761 her mum dead. Belle walks into the house and sees 0:01:22.881 --> 0:01:24.880 bloody footprints all over the floor. 0:01:27.881 --> 0:01:29.241 So, yeah, I was panicking. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.121 I was I was shaking, and now I'm going to 0:01:32.161 --> 0:01:33.720 do this, and I'm trying to tell myself, I handle 0:01:33.801 --> 0:01:36.000 it better than last time. Bell, I'm so angry at 0:01:36.041 --> 0:01:38.080 myself for what I did with mom, and I was like, 0:01:38.161 --> 0:01:39.600 just handle this situation better. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.640 But anyway, I was. I was lucky that the neighbor 0:01:43.721 --> 0:01:44.200 was out the front. 0:01:44.441 --> 0:01:46.961 She was loving, you know, and obviously very caring and 0:01:46.961 --> 0:01:48.601 looking after him, and she was worried, you know. 0:01:48.681 --> 0:01:50.881 She was out the front looking stressed. 0:01:50.921 --> 0:01:54.921 And she met me there and I said, were you 0:01:54.921 --> 0:01:57.361 coming with me since I found my mom dead, you know, 0:01:57.441 --> 0:01:59.161 and she goes, of course, we're not. 0:01:59.161 --> 0:02:00.761 I'm so grateful she did that. 0:02:02.241 --> 0:02:05.321 So I went and got the key because you get 0:02:05.361 --> 0:02:09.520 to keep spare key in the garage. Yeah, I went 0:02:09.561 --> 0:02:11.401 to use it to walk in the house, but the 0:02:11.481 --> 0:02:15.081 door was unlocked, and that was very unusual. That always 0:02:15.121 --> 0:02:18.641 kept his door locked. So I thought, well, hey, that's unusual. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.921 And second thing that unusual that there was no lights on. 0:02:22.361 --> 0:02:25.721 Yeah we're talking sort of eight forty probably around that time, 0:02:25.761 --> 0:02:26.601 and it was pitch black. 0:02:26.641 --> 0:02:28.081 I thought, what's going on here? 0:02:28.201 --> 0:02:29.960 Because even the neighbor would say, you always had that 0:02:30.001 --> 0:02:32.400 front light on. That's where you lived, that front land room, 0:02:34.201 --> 0:02:36.120 that's that's pretty much where he lived in his recliner 0:02:36.161 --> 0:02:40.361 and watching your TV. So anyway, Yeah, walked in and 0:02:41.441 --> 0:02:45.401 what looked like, initially this sounds odd, but sort of 0:02:45.401 --> 0:02:48.521 feathers scattered in the distance in the kitchen area. And 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.801 I was like, what's going on over there? And I 0:02:50.881 --> 0:02:54.560 put the light on and then I just saw blood. Yeah, 0:02:54.601 --> 0:02:59.041 all these blood footprints pretty much. It was very in 0:02:59.081 --> 0:03:00.720 your face then, and there was there was quite a 0:03:00.761 --> 0:03:02.520 lot of blood, and I was like, what the hell 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.241 has happened here? And I yelled out and and the 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.680 neighbor yelled out, and I noticed it a small glass 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.881 pane was broken. And at the time, I'm like, oh, 0:03:12.881 --> 0:03:15.041 my god, has the accidentally hurt himself. He's got in 0:03:15.041 --> 0:03:17.201 a hospital, he's got you know, what the hell has happened? 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.520 I did not know million things from through your head, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.560 and I didn't want to make the same mistakes again. 0:03:21.601 --> 0:03:25.001 I just called my husband that I just had to. 0:03:25.121 --> 0:03:26.521 That was just the first thing I thought to do. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:31.321 And then he called the police. So yeah, we just waited. 0:03:31.081 --> 0:03:38.161 For them to arrive, and it was. 0:03:38.401 --> 0:03:42.601 Yeah, it was really really bizarre, really really really bizarre. 0:03:43.401 --> 0:03:46.881 The garage roller door is open. Yes, there are no 0:03:47.001 --> 0:03:50.001 lights on in the house as you've turned the lights on, 0:03:50.081 --> 0:03:53.001 you walk in by yourself, and you notice blood all 0:03:53.001 --> 0:03:55.081 over the floor and a broken pane of one of 0:03:55.121 --> 0:03:57.761 the internal doors. So it's not an external door, it's an. 0:03:57.721 --> 0:03:59.561 Internal door absolutely. 0:03:59.601 --> 0:04:03.880 And there was a spa bath there foot spar set 0:04:03.921 --> 0:04:04.521 up in the kitchen. 0:04:04.561 --> 0:04:07.681 I was like, what the I did not like. 0:04:07.681 --> 0:04:11.121 Dada had actually used this particular foot spa to just 0:04:11.321 --> 0:04:13.601 you know, ic his feet, you know, but he'd have 0:04:13.641 --> 0:04:15.201 it blooded dinner, and he'd have it in the front 0:04:15.241 --> 0:04:17.601 land room, sitting in front of the TV in his 0:04:17.681 --> 0:04:20.001 declina chair. So the fact that this was sit up 0:04:20.041 --> 0:04:23.401 set up on tiles in the kitchen area, I was like, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.841 what's That's very odd. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.161 That was the first thing that was very odd. 0:04:26.161 --> 0:04:28.481 And it wasn't plugged in, and so it appeared to 0:04:28.521 --> 0:04:30.640 be like that he'd been icing his feet out on 0:04:30.681 --> 0:04:34.121 the tiles. Again, doesn't make sense if you've got numb 0:04:34.161 --> 0:04:35.481 feet and you're standing. 0:04:35.121 --> 0:04:36.361 And you know, you could slip. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.841 So that's and that had that was full of blood. 0:04:39.001 --> 0:04:40.921 That whole that whole foot spa was full of blood. 0:04:40.921 --> 0:04:43.440 And I was like, what the you know, hell's happened? 0:04:43.481 --> 0:04:47.320 But initially, again I'm just hoping, thinking and praying that 0:04:47.721 --> 0:04:50.041 it is something as simple as he has just accidentally 0:04:51.041 --> 0:04:54.080 kicked this love. Also, you know he's accidentally he'd cut 0:04:54.161 --> 0:04:57.161 himself and tried to get himself to the hospital, you know. 0:04:57.241 --> 0:05:00.041 And I remember telling that look. I said to the sergeant, 0:05:00.241 --> 0:05:01.561 I said, what can I do? Can I can I 0:05:01.561 --> 0:05:02.481 help call the hospitals? 0:05:02.521 --> 0:05:04.081 And they were like, nope, You've got We've got one 0:05:04.161 --> 0:05:05.681 number that we call and all of them. 0:05:05.721 --> 0:05:07.081 So it's all good. 0:05:08.641 --> 0:05:13.400 You didn't hear about your dad's disappearance or something strange 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.361 going on at the house until late thirty at night 0:05:15.681 --> 0:05:19.440 by text. That text was from your sister. Great, when 0:05:19.481 --> 0:05:21.881 did she hear about that there was an issue? 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.801 She was not the message at seven o two. 0:05:23.801 --> 0:05:26.201 Okay, So there was just a bit of time there. 0:05:26.401 --> 0:05:29.241 So essentially the neighbors saw it early in the morning, 0:05:29.241 --> 0:05:32.640 saw the door open at the garage door at about 0:05:32.641 --> 0:05:35.761 six forty five am, and then went to work. And 0:05:36.121 --> 0:05:41.121 I guess you wouldn't really, you know, for garage stores open. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.961 I don't know whether you'd make a phone call straight 0:05:43.001 --> 0:05:46.200 away to say someone's missing. You might go. I wonder 0:05:46.201 --> 0:05:49.001 why that is. It might be strange, but not necessarily 0:05:49.481 --> 0:05:57.440 any criminal activity. So I guess the navy gets home 0:05:57.521 --> 0:06:00.481 then from work that afternoon. Is that right, and the 0:06:01.641 --> 0:06:02.681 house is the same as it was. 0:06:02.641 --> 0:06:06.921 In the morning, Yes, And it hit home something's not right. 0:06:07.081 --> 0:06:10.721 So police arrive after the phone call from Darren, after 0:06:10.761 --> 0:06:13.041 you've spoken to him, and they arrive at nine to 0:06:13.081 --> 0:06:14.721 twenty three. What happens then? 0:06:15.841 --> 0:06:18.841 I was met with him at the front and I 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.081 felt like, initially I put his nose out of doing 0:06:21.161 --> 0:06:22.241 a little bit, I'll be honest. 0:06:22.001 --> 0:06:22.640 Because. 0:06:24.041 --> 0:06:26.081 Because Darren had obviously said that I don't know if 0:06:26.081 --> 0:06:29.241 someone's still in the house, so it was treated initially like, 0:06:29.281 --> 0:06:30.081 oh my gosh, you know. 0:06:30.241 --> 0:06:31.001 High priority. 0:06:31.521 --> 0:06:33.401 And then when he arrived and I said, I don't 0:06:33.401 --> 0:06:35.801 think anyone's in the house, and immediately before even going 0:06:35.801 --> 0:06:38.201 in the house, he's sort of called it off and going, no, no, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:39.561 it's not as bad as we think. 0:06:39.681 --> 0:06:40.760 You know, there's no one in the house. 0:06:40.841 --> 0:06:44.640 And but you know, then they go in and sort 0:06:44.641 --> 0:06:47.481 of they made their own he made his own assumptions 0:06:47.641 --> 0:06:50.681 on what had happened. I guess, you know, because they 0:06:51.041 --> 0:06:53.841 hadn't seen what they described as any sort of forced entry. 0:06:54.081 --> 0:06:57.721 There were assumptions made. You know, obviously, I was asked, 0:06:57.761 --> 0:06:59.281 you know, has he got any health issues? And I said, well, 0:06:59.281 --> 0:07:01.201 obviously the spa, but the foot spar was set up, 0:07:01.201 --> 0:07:02.881 so I did say he had the proof from Europosy 0:07:02.961 --> 0:07:04.241 and and I said. 0:07:04.041 --> 0:07:04.801 But this is out of character. 0:07:04.841 --> 0:07:07.200 This is not something that he would do, like you know, 0:07:07.201 --> 0:07:09.361 I tried. The first thing the police were told is no, 0:07:09.721 --> 0:07:10.881 you know, this is out of character. 0:07:11.241 --> 0:07:13.521 There's something wrong here. It's not right. 0:07:14.001 --> 0:07:16.641 So at ten oh seven that evening, a missing person's 0:07:16.681 --> 0:07:21.241 police investigation is commenced because either way, there was a 0:07:21.281 --> 0:07:23.041 serious concern for your dad's safety. 0:07:23.881 --> 0:07:24.241 Correct. 0:07:24.401 --> 0:07:25.961 What happens? Then? Do you call your sister? 0:07:26.801 --> 0:07:29.361 Well, look, she it actually haven't been major dental surgery 0:07:29.641 --> 0:07:36.641 that day that morning. So I decided to leave her obviously, 0:07:36.761 --> 0:07:38.041 rest or whatever she needs to do. 0:07:38.081 --> 0:07:39.481 And I tried calling my brother in law. 0:07:41.761 --> 0:07:44.601 How was your relationship with your sister back at that point? 0:07:44.801 --> 0:07:47.561 Look, as I said that there were issues. I guess 0:07:47.561 --> 0:07:50.881 every family has problems. That's not widely known. 0:07:50.761 --> 0:07:51.041 Is it. 0:07:52.081 --> 0:07:54.201 So there were certain things that they had put strain 0:07:54.281 --> 0:07:58.561 on our relationships, especially over the last few years. We 0:07:58.561 --> 0:08:02.881 were still seeing each other, you know, but yeah, there 0:08:02.961 --> 0:08:05.361 were issues. There were things, you know, a relationship was 0:08:06.041 --> 0:08:07.840 already becoming a bit strained. 0:08:08.481 --> 0:08:10.761 Did the police then start a search that evening? 0:08:11.761 --> 0:08:14.441 Not what they did was when they did I don't 0:08:14.441 --> 0:08:16.121 know what's called it inward outward or something like that. 0:08:16.161 --> 0:08:18.681 So they have all the vehicles starting from Dad's premise 0:08:18.761 --> 0:08:20.841 he's properly in ocean reef, and then they went their 0:08:20.841 --> 0:08:23.321 way out, so they go and scan the whole perimeter. 0:08:23.441 --> 0:08:26.961 And yeah, I mean, I guess that's what you have 0:08:27.001 --> 0:08:28.641 to find and do in that sort of situation, is it, 0:08:28.721 --> 0:08:30.681 because we were trying to find a car at that point, 0:08:30.721 --> 0:08:33.561 and so yeah, I believe, you know, and Hilary's police, 0:08:33.921 --> 0:08:35.681 the lady there, she was great. She was keeping me 0:08:35.681 --> 0:08:38.641 in the loop and you know, keeping me informed and. 0:08:41.521 --> 0:08:42.161 You know, what have you. 0:08:42.201 --> 0:08:44.081 But you know, I couldn't get hold of my brother 0:08:44.081 --> 0:08:47.281 in law and I tried probably about three times. So 0:08:47.401 --> 0:08:48.561 in the end, I was like, what do I do? 0:08:48.601 --> 0:08:50.601 Because my husband couldn't come searching with. 0:08:50.521 --> 0:08:54.161 Me because you've got the kids at home, right, Yeah. 0:08:54.041 --> 0:08:55.241 They were in bed at home. 0:08:55.401 --> 0:08:57.761 So in hindsight, I gone, why didn't I ask the 0:08:57.801 --> 0:08:59.841 neighbor to go sit with the kids, and you know, 0:09:00.721 --> 0:09:02.481 my husband support But there's a lot of things you 0:09:02.481 --> 0:09:04.361 think of me hindsight, you know, why didn't I do this? 0:09:04.401 --> 0:09:05.241 One? Didn't I do that? 0:09:06.201 --> 0:09:07.961 So anyway, I couldn't get hold of my brother in law, 0:09:08.081 --> 0:09:09.241 which I thought was strange. 0:09:09.241 --> 0:09:10.921 So I'd been sent over to check on my father 0:09:11.401 --> 0:09:13.081 if it was all right. So that was a bit 0:09:13.081 --> 0:09:13.481 odd to me. 0:09:13.561 --> 0:09:16.441 But I got hold of my auntie, and this particular 0:09:16.441 --> 0:09:18.241 auntie was sort of like stepped up as a mum 0:09:18.281 --> 0:09:20.921 to me when my mom died, and I knew she'd 0:09:21.041 --> 0:09:25.521 drop everything, and she did. She came straight there and 0:09:25.561 --> 0:09:27.681 we just drove all the around the routes trying to 0:09:28.081 --> 0:09:30.121 on the way to hospital because again in my brain, 0:09:30.121 --> 0:09:32.481 he was a John dowein hospital. That's all I kept thinking. 0:09:32.721 --> 0:09:35.681 Nothing else made sense at that point. I guess that 0:09:35.801 --> 0:09:38.161 was the most reasonable. 0:09:37.681 --> 0:09:40.721 Thing that could have happened in my brain, do you 0:09:40.761 --> 0:09:41.201 know what I mean? 0:09:41.521 --> 0:09:44.081 And we drove around, We went drove around to the 0:09:44.161 --> 0:09:47.321 hospital area car parks and just I don't know, I 0:09:47.361 --> 0:09:49.001 was expecting to see the cars and you have an 0:09:49.041 --> 0:09:49.961 accident on the way to the. 0:09:49.921 --> 0:09:51.801 Hospital, law, do you know? 0:09:52.881 --> 0:09:58.321 But yeah, from here on in in the story of 0:09:58.401 --> 0:10:01.841 Jasper's disappearance, you'll see that there is a difference of 0:10:01.921 --> 0:10:06.561 opinion on what happened to John Jensen. Bell and Darren 0:10:07.081 --> 0:10:12.201 firmly believed that there's something more sinister at play. They 0:10:12.281 --> 0:10:16.761 don't believe that her dad just up and vanished. Police 0:10:16.801 --> 0:10:20.001 and the coroner have a different view, and later in 0:10:20.041 --> 0:10:23.801 this episode we'll hear from the investigating officer, Joe Burr, 0:10:24.641 --> 0:10:28.521 But for now, let's get Darren Bell's husband's view on 0:10:28.601 --> 0:10:30.801 when he visited the house the next day with Belle. 0:10:32.721 --> 0:10:38.641 Yeah. Well, first he went to the scene where the 0:10:38.681 --> 0:10:41.441 footspar was and the broken glass and the blood, and 0:10:41.761 --> 0:10:44.881 like Bell, that did not make sense. 0:10:44.761 --> 0:10:46.241 Why that was there. 0:10:47.561 --> 0:10:49.841 Yes, we bought him this foot spar and he used 0:10:49.881 --> 0:10:52.041 to use it, but as Belle said, he did that 0:10:52.121 --> 0:10:54.761 in his recliner chair in the lounge room and watching 0:10:54.801 --> 0:10:59.761 his fox fell and normally watching golf, So I thought 0:10:59.841 --> 0:11:00.481 that was odd. 0:11:01.321 --> 0:11:02.801 Also, there was a lot of. 0:11:03.241 --> 0:11:07.561 Body footprints around from one particular foot's right heel, and 0:11:08.041 --> 0:11:11.001 they just didn't make sense. They're going in every direction, 0:11:11.521 --> 0:11:16.081 they were fire apart, they were close together. They'll sort 0:11:16.081 --> 0:11:21.641 of half half footprints on then more full footprints, and yeah, 0:11:21.881 --> 0:11:24.401 there's this broken glass, and it just didn't make sense 0:11:24.441 --> 0:11:26.161 to me how there was this brain glass. I couldn't 0:11:26.201 --> 0:11:28.001 go up and check out everything because I didn't want 0:11:28.001 --> 0:11:30.561 to interfere with the scene at all. But it just 0:11:30.681 --> 0:11:33.161 the whole scene just did not make sense to me. 0:11:33.201 --> 0:11:35.081 It did not make sense why the foot spar was 0:11:35.121 --> 0:11:38.521 out there, the footprints didn't make sense to me. How 0:11:38.561 --> 0:11:41.721 he actually cut his foot didn't make sense. Because the police, 0:11:42.721 --> 0:11:45.921 when the forensics team were there, were both there and 0:11:45.961 --> 0:11:48.081 they said, oh, well, it looks like he's been bathing 0:11:48.121 --> 0:11:51.721 his feet and he's they've been hurting so much. He's 0:11:51.761 --> 0:11:54.361 got frustrated, and he's got up and kicked this French door, 0:11:54.481 --> 0:11:56.561 and then he's cut his foot, and then he's attended 0:11:56.601 --> 0:11:59.361 to the wounds, and then he's going, well I've had 0:11:59.481 --> 0:12:01.801 enough of all this, and then he's driven now and 0:12:01.841 --> 0:12:04.561 twenty minutes to kill himself, which nowe that made sense. 0:12:04.601 --> 0:12:06.361 But I was looking at the glass and I was like, 0:12:06.681 --> 0:12:09.401 he's cut the back of his heel. You're saying he's 0:12:10.361 --> 0:12:14.761 kicked this glass door, But if he was, it didn't 0:12:14.761 --> 0:12:17.721 look like he was a big six foot so I 0:12:17.721 --> 0:12:20.321 was thirteen shoe. I couldn't see how he physically could 0:12:20.321 --> 0:12:22.681 have got his foot that far through the panel or 0:12:22.681 --> 0:12:24.641 the door to cut it. The only what had made 0:12:24.681 --> 0:12:27.601 sense to us is if he was traveling backwards that 0:12:27.681 --> 0:12:30.841 he cut his heel on this door, which then sort 0:12:30.841 --> 0:12:35.361 of threw the police theories into question. It's like, well, 0:12:35.401 --> 0:12:39.281 he hasn't walked up and kicked this door. He's somehow 0:12:39.721 --> 0:12:43.641 broken this glass on the door some other way and 0:12:43.761 --> 0:12:47.441 cut his foot. And so, really, the logistics of me 0:12:47.481 --> 0:12:49.881 and I try to be quite analytical at times, I 0:12:49.961 --> 0:12:52.561 just couldn't not and still to this day when I 0:12:52.561 --> 0:12:54.601 look at the photes figure out how he actually cut 0:12:54.641 --> 0:12:58.321 his foot. So it didn't make sense to me. Our 0:12:58.361 --> 0:13:03.041 initial thought was he didn't do this. Something's happened and 0:13:04.121 --> 0:13:07.401 untoward to him, and it's been made to look like 0:13:07.521 --> 0:13:11.081 he's done something, and it did look like it, but 0:13:11.161 --> 0:13:13.601 the actual and no one can still tell me this 0:13:13.681 --> 0:13:16.361 day how he's actually cut his foot to it. Logistically, 0:13:16.401 --> 0:13:19.601 I just don't see how it's happened. And yeah, and 0:13:19.641 --> 0:13:22.761 why would he be bathing his feet on a nice 0:13:22.801 --> 0:13:27.601 water on tiles just doesn't make sense. And so, yeah, 0:13:27.641 --> 0:13:29.721 the whole scene didn't make sense to me. And we're 0:13:29.761 --> 0:13:32.041 trying to explain this to the police. But at the 0:13:32.041 --> 0:13:34.121 time but it was just falling on deaf years. Was 0:13:34.721 --> 0:13:38.361 more like, you know, looking down at us, saying leave 0:13:38.401 --> 0:13:40.601 it to the experts sort of thing. And every time 0:13:40.641 --> 0:13:42.801 Belle tried to say something that my father wouldn't have 0:13:42.841 --> 0:13:46.161 done this, you know, we've been through this with my 0:13:46.161 --> 0:13:48.561 mother to a certain degree and whatever else when we've 0:13:48.561 --> 0:13:51.601 had conversations, and he just almost laughed at Belle and well, 0:13:51.641 --> 0:13:54.961 that doesn't mean anything, and it's like to do with that, 0:13:55.521 --> 0:13:59.721 it actually does mean something. So, yeah, the whole whole 0:13:59.721 --> 0:14:02.841 thing didn't make sense. Not once was I think, oh, yeah, 0:14:02.881 --> 0:14:05.521 that he's had a bad day and he's gone off 0:14:05.561 --> 0:14:09.081 to kill himself sort of thing. And yeah, and then 0:14:09.121 --> 0:14:12.441 we find out the cars bound up in Lanceton and 0:14:12.441 --> 0:14:13.721 then the story goes from there. 0:14:15.521 --> 0:14:18.761 On Tuesday, the twenty eighth of June, the media starts 0:14:18.801 --> 0:14:22.441 covering the story In Perth. Darren and Bell both make 0:14:22.521 --> 0:14:26.361 pleas to the public for information or possible sightings of 0:14:26.441 --> 0:14:27.681 John or his car. 0:14:28.041 --> 0:14:31.201 Jahn's neighbors raised the alarm yesterday when they noticed the 0:14:31.241 --> 0:14:34.961 elderly man's garage open and his car missing. He hasn't 0:14:34.961 --> 0:14:39.321 been seen since Sunday, and his family are understandably worried. 0:14:39.241 --> 0:14:41.561 Any information from the great appreciated. 0:14:42.881 --> 0:14:47.001 Yeah, it's a beautiful granddad. Thanks funny one. 0:14:47.081 --> 0:14:50.601 Now they say it's completely unlike the widower to go 0:14:50.641 --> 0:14:54.321 out for so long without making contact. John's wife died 0:14:54.401 --> 0:14:57.961 six years ago. He lives alone. He's described as one 0:14:58.081 --> 0:15:01.961 hundred and eighty five centimeters tall, large build with graying hair. 0:15:02.721 --> 0:15:06.841 And then that evening a breakthrough. Jorn's car is found 0:15:07.241 --> 0:15:09.961 in Lancelen outside a pub. Well. 0:15:10.001 --> 0:15:13.801 The discovery of John Jensen's car outside the Lancelon Beach 0:15:13.801 --> 0:15:17.001 Hotel is a big breakthrough in the police search for 0:15:17.081 --> 0:15:20.201 the missing Ocean Reef grandfather. The sixty eight year old 0:15:20.281 --> 0:15:23.401 hadn't been seen since Sunday, after all lunch. 0:15:24.881 --> 0:15:28.041 So at eight ten that evening, you get a call 0:15:28.121 --> 0:15:30.161 from police that. 0:15:30.241 --> 0:15:32.401 Was to say that the media release that we did 0:15:32.641 --> 0:15:33.481 you know you had worked. 0:15:34.001 --> 0:15:37.281 Obviously that was widely spread and the car was located 0:15:37.361 --> 0:15:43.681 up in Lanceln. I was shocked because you know, that 0:15:44.201 --> 0:15:47.961 place had no connection or relevance, you know, to our family. 0:15:49.081 --> 0:15:50.801 But obviously I received news like that. 0:15:50.961 --> 0:15:53.281 So the first thing I tried to do is a 0:15:53.401 --> 0:15:55.641 former sister to keep her in the loop and let 0:15:55.681 --> 0:15:58.961 her know to be told that she's already halfway up there, 0:16:00.841 --> 0:16:04.441 and I was like, oh, okay, So I ran the 0:16:05.801 --> 0:16:08.121 I ran the police back. I rang her back, and 0:16:08.241 --> 0:16:10.201 I said, look, she's actually she's actually got a way 0:16:10.201 --> 0:16:10.601 out there. 0:16:11.001 --> 0:16:12.961 I remember every Asian with the whole shit. That's not good. 0:16:12.961 --> 0:16:14.761 You know, she's going to get there before Lancelop police 0:16:14.761 --> 0:16:16.921 can get there because there was a bit of delay 0:16:16.961 --> 0:16:19.721 I think of availability up and you know, Lancelom police, 0:16:19.761 --> 0:16:25.001 and so yeah, that's that's what happened. She ended up 0:16:25.001 --> 0:16:28.401 going up there with her girlfriend slash alibi at the time, 0:16:29.441 --> 0:16:29.601 you know. 0:16:29.641 --> 0:16:32.041 Apparently she said that her friend had had a dream 0:16:32.121 --> 0:16:34.001 that he was north, so they headed north. 0:16:35.761 --> 0:16:36.081 Okay. 0:16:36.161 --> 0:16:37.161 So yeah, they got there. 0:16:37.761 --> 0:16:40.641 So your sister, Just for clarity, your sister hadn't been 0:16:40.681 --> 0:16:43.681 contacted by police before you to tell her. 0:16:43.601 --> 0:16:46.601 That, no, no, no, I guess I was in contact. 0:16:47.041 --> 0:16:49.321 I was the person, and so they were just lasing 0:16:49.401 --> 0:16:51.161 with myself and I was just making you know, I 0:16:51.241 --> 0:16:53.601 kept her in the loop with any information, and that's 0:16:53.641 --> 0:16:54.121 what I did. 0:16:54.921 --> 0:16:58.281 Lancelot is a small fishing town one hundred and twenty 0:16:58.281 --> 0:17:01.721 seven kilometers north of Perth in w A. It's a 0:17:01.721 --> 0:17:04.481 beautiful part of the world and I know because I 0:17:04.481 --> 0:17:07.521 grew up there as a kid in the late seventies. 0:17:07.721 --> 0:17:10.441 I would sit outside the pub John's car was discovered 0:17:10.441 --> 0:17:13.681 at waiting for my dad to finish his beer while 0:17:13.721 --> 0:17:16.001 me and my brothers ate sand boyd chips and drunk 0:17:16.001 --> 0:17:20.400 soft drink. It's a sleepy town of under one thousand people. 0:17:20.961 --> 0:17:24.720 Around Christmas time, the town's numbers swell to almost triple that. 0:17:25.961 --> 0:17:28.840 It was originally called by its Aboriginal name on Gare, 0:17:29.481 --> 0:17:33.960 but was renamed in the early nineteen fifties. Lancelom is 0:17:34.001 --> 0:17:37.600 also a very close knit town, especially in the winter 0:17:37.681 --> 0:17:41.281 months when the wood ducks or out of town visitors 0:17:41.360 --> 0:17:45.121 as the locals would call them, leave. It's an unusual 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.920 place to head unless you're heading there for a reason. 0:17:48.681 --> 0:17:51.240 I wanted to know from Bell if Lancelom was a 0:17:51.281 --> 0:17:54.160 place her dad had been before, or if it was 0:17:54.201 --> 0:17:55.361 a place of significance. 0:17:56.441 --> 0:18:01.001 Look again, these friends, you know that I regularly saw 0:18:01.441 --> 0:18:04.521 ken Engezer. They loved you know, I loved going on there, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.561 and they drives and that will close with dad. 0:18:07.721 --> 0:18:09.281 You know, they had a really good relationship. 0:18:09.321 --> 0:18:11.440 So they kept on saying come on, come on, yes, 0:18:11.481 --> 0:18:13.561 but we'll come for a drive on a Sunday drive 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.881 and come and have lunch with this and so yeah, 0:18:15.921 --> 0:18:19.041 they had actually gone to that Lancelon Beach Hotel before 0:18:19.561 --> 0:18:22.841 and had lunch there as a passenger. He was obviously 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.920 taken up there, and there was the second time, you 0:18:24.921 --> 0:18:27.520 know they visited the pinnacles and then went and had 0:18:27.521 --> 0:18:30.481 another bite to week, So technically he'd been there twice. 0:18:30.801 --> 0:18:32.880 Had he ever been to the Lanceln Beach Hotel? 0:18:33.961 --> 0:18:36.761 Not prior to that? Only with only with Kennan Gezer. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.761 This is a question that I think is different for 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.960 your answer will be different to some of the answers 0:18:45.321 --> 0:18:47.681 that in the coroner's report, But I'm going to ask 0:18:47.721 --> 0:18:51.241 it anyway. In your opinion, could your dad drive? 0:18:52.921 --> 0:18:56.961 No? No, especially after that fall. 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.080 No, When was the last time he drove? If he 0:19:01.120 --> 0:19:04.440 had a driven on that day, let's just say that, Okay, 0:19:04.481 --> 0:19:06.561 maybe he did drive on that day in the twenty fifth, 0:19:06.921 --> 0:19:08.961 When was the last time before the twenty fifth of 0:19:09.041 --> 0:19:11.600 June twenty seventeen, you see your father drive. 0:19:12.441 --> 0:19:14.681 The fifth or sixth of March when he was going 0:19:14.721 --> 0:19:18.001 to play that try and play that nine holes of golf. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.561 And know this is all bat duck by friends and 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:20.761 email as well yep. 0:19:21.001 --> 0:19:24.241 And in that period had anyone else seen him drive 0:19:24.360 --> 0:19:25.641 from March through too. 0:19:26.961 --> 0:19:29.720 Apparently the neighbor said she had seen him a few weeks. 0:19:29.441 --> 0:19:32.640 Before, you know, and I thought that was odd, but 0:19:32.761 --> 0:19:34.200 you know, because my sister was, you know, sort of 0:19:34.201 --> 0:19:35.640 stepped up to the care of role, so she was 0:19:35.681 --> 0:19:37.641 taking him to all his appointments, especially after the fall, 0:19:37.681 --> 0:19:40.041 because you know, he couldn't drive, you know, it was 0:19:40.041 --> 0:19:42.281 his right hand. You know, Dad was even saying I 0:19:42.321 --> 0:19:43.921 have to learn and want my bum with my left. 0:19:43.721 --> 0:19:45.801 Hand, ben't he And you know he couldn't. 0:19:46.120 --> 0:19:48.721